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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: I never told you production by her radio.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, We've recently had an episode when

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Speaker 2: we talked about postpartum and we in that episode we

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Speaker 2: talked about a new study supposedly that's talking about how

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Speaker 2: women need more sleep. So I thought we could take

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Speaker 2: this money, Minnie and explore that, Like, what are people saying,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about this. When did they actually decide that

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Speaker 2: studies about sleep should include women? Guess what, y'all, it

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Speaker 2: didn't happen until the nineties. That's right. They actually expanded

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Speaker 2: the study from just white men to well everybody else

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Speaker 2: in like nineteen nineties. Surprise of price. Of course, some

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Speaker 2: would argue that because sleep studies didn't start until the seventies,

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Speaker 2: which is relatively late for kind of these type of

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Speaker 2: scientific biological studies, that this is a bit more progressive

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Speaker 2: on the timeline than other types of studies. So I

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Speaker 2: guess here's a cookie take it. Thanks for including others. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but anyway, so with all of that, we know that

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Speaker 2: sleep is important. I think we were trying to talk

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Speaker 2: remember some of our past episodes, because I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: we had a whole conversation about like you having trouble

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Speaker 2: sleeping and how much sleep we actually need and all

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Speaker 2: these different things. I know Christen and Caroline have several

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Speaker 2: other like difference in reference to like women and babies

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Speaker 2: and whether or not insomnia effect women differently, all those

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Speaker 2: different things. So this is not a new subject, but

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Speaker 2: I thought we would go back to the basic, especially

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Speaker 2: with the fact that they have this newer study came

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Speaker 2: out in twenty twenty four. I believe, and yes, the

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Speaker 2: typical recommendation that we've always heard I've always heard out

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Speaker 2: about you, but like eight hours is the timeline, but

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Speaker 2: like seven to nine hours is the perfect timing is

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Speaker 2: if you have good RESTful sleep. And that's a whole

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Speaker 2: different conversation for me. I have to say, I need

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Speaker 2: to either have just like six to seven hours for

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Speaker 2: me to feel like I'm parking up and according to

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Speaker 2: my watches that tell me how well my sleep is.

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Speaker 2: Those are the like the less sleep like if it's

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Speaker 2: more than five hours but less than seven, like less

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Speaker 2: eighties and they're like, yeah, a thumbs up. Out of

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Speaker 2: one hundred, or it has to be ten hours, Like,

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Speaker 2: you better give me the full ten hours. I need

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Speaker 2: to sleep it off. But in between is not good

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Speaker 2: for me. I get really odd and groggy.

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 2: How have you been sleeping lately? I always ask you

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Speaker 2: this when you stay here, I'm like, how did you sleep?

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Speaker 2: How many hours did you sleep?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: How did you go to bed? So let me ask

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Speaker 2: you how are you sleeping?

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Speaker 1: I have improved in this arena since I think we

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Speaker 1: last talked about it. I Five is my app That's

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Speaker 1: my number. Though, yeah, I feel the best at five.

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Speaker 1: If I get more than that, I actually feel kind

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Speaker 1: at least in my adulthood. When I was younger, I did.

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Speaker 1: But if five is where I'm good. But I do

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Speaker 1: like to doze around, Like my favorite thing is when

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Speaker 1: think about stuff, Star Wars stuff, probably, but I did.

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Speaker 1: I do have. Part of my trouble with sleeping is

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Speaker 1: and it's so frustrating because it's it's hard to remember

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Speaker 1: the moment before you fell asleep correct, Like it's really difficult,

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Speaker 2: You feel like if you have sleep apnea, which is

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Speaker 1: My uncle has it and I have gotten tested for

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Speaker 2: Maybe it needs to be a different because that not

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Speaker 1: It just kind of feels like you're getting shocked out

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Speaker 1: Because which I know we'll probably talk about this and

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Speaker 1: I have previously talked about this. Maybe depending on when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's yeah, that's the bigger conversation too, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so again, we know that the lack of sleep can

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Speaker 2: One of the most common diet tips that we get,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a scientist. I can't tell you any of

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Speaker 2: so we're going to just attribute them like, eh, it's

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Speaker 2: good for all around. Good advice, right, But does it

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Speaker 2: affect women and men differently? Well, like any other good

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Speaker 2: research that's just newer, maybe the answer seems unclear. There

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Speaker 2: So I know as I was reading through some of

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Speaker 2: need to make up for that anxiety, restlessness, hot flashes,

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Speaker 2: sleep cycles are often impacted by the hormonal shifts, and

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Speaker 2: they recommend seven to nine hours at that typical range. Again,

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Speaker 2: almost impossible. Every position hurts. Yeah, that's what I've heard. Yep,

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Speaker 2: from this article quote, motherhood transforms sleep into a precious

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Speaker 2: and evolving experience. While the recommended amount of sleep remains

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Speaker 2: the same, the journey of caring for children, especially during

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Speaker 2: their earlier years, bring unique rhythms and patterns to mother's rest.

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Speaker 2: Nighttime care of it givings such as feeding and soothing

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Speaker 2: can often creates more fragmented sleep, but it also reflects

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Speaker 2: the profound bond and attentiveness between mothers and their children.

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Speaker 2: So when we were reading these different articles, they do

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Speaker 2: especially if you're breastfeeding. That that's that conversation, as we

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Speaker 2: Like you're really pushing parents to be like, this is

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Speaker 1: I'm not an angry person, but when it comes out

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Speaker 2: What, they really were trying to paint this pretty picture

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Speaker 2: the hell, Yes this is great and all, but I'm tired.

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Speaker 2: But I was humorous. And then there's the perimenopause and

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Speaker 2: menopause moments again from that same article quote. As women

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Speaker 2: enter menopause, they often face new and unique challenges to

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Speaker 2: about symptoms like insomnia, hot flashes, night sweats, which may

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Speaker 2: disrupt RESTful sleep. These adjustments can be frustrating, but they

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Speaker 2: also reflect the body's transition into a new phase of life.

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Speaker 2: Despite these challenges, getting seven to nine hours of quality

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Speaker 2: sleep per night remains essential for maintaining physical, mental, and

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Speaker 2: emotional well being. I guess it's just because it's an obgyn.

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Speaker 2: But again, these flowery lang languages of like you're coming

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Speaker 2: was withering away from not sleeping. I'm just kidding. And

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Speaker 2: Research indicates that post menopausal women frequently experienced a decline

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Speaker 2: poor sleep quality, with common issues including insomnia, sleep fragmentations,

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Speaker 2: and I think this is where I've heard, like people

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just not know that either.

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Speaker 2: They also say to exercise regularly, but not three hours

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Speaker 2: before bedtime because it gets you hyped. Yeah, there's so

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Speaker 2: many things to that. And try to keep consistent bedtimes,

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Speaker 2: especially on weekdays or your work days, because I know

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Speaker 2: people will have different schedules, but trying to do that

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Speaker 2: consistency is really important. I do start getting sleepy abound

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Speaker 2: tell me at ten thirty at bedtime, and she gets

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Speaker 2: like really agitated that we are not in bed, So

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Speaker 2: she is more on the clock than I am about that.

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Speaker 2: Has she made you try to go to bed too?

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Speaker 1: She gets crumpy and looks at me like, what are

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Speaker 1: we even doing here?

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Speaker 2: Annie is always with her if I'm not here, thank you,

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Speaker 2: which I'm very grateful for. And so and he has

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Speaker 2: experienced the peaches, just mentalness and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can feel her stare the couch.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and then she kind of like peeks around the corner.

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Speaker 2: If you're not following fast enough where you're at bro

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Speaker 2: come on, we're going to bed, so but there you go.

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Speaker 2: That is that conversation. Very short summary of this conversation

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Speaker 2: that yes, maybe women do need more sleep, but it's

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Speaker 2: not to the level like one woman needs ten hours

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Speaker 2: while man only need five. Again, this is the type

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Speaker 2: of study they have. This is fairly new and it's

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Speaker 2: just to make up for the quality. So if they

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Speaker 2: have the perfect partner that does everything truly fifty to fifty,

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Speaker 2: they may actually not need that more sleep. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Maybe we'll see more studies in the future.

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