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Speaker 2: get started. My guest is the founder of No Sealing Consulting.

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Speaker 2: They have individuals and organizations unlike potential, elevate performers and

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Speaker 2: STEM leadership, diversity and inclusion and strategy, professional development and

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Speaker 2: Bamma DELI for Nried.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing i'mna say it a couple of times because

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Speaker 2: you don't have the practice in the room.

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Speaker 1: Bummade beautiful name.

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Speaker 3: Where you originally from Nigeria?

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Speaker 1: Nigeria? And what got you over to America?

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Speaker 4: Well, see what do you call when parents are looking

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Speaker 4: for a better future for the children. So are the younger,

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Speaker 4: very young age. I migrated with my family, my parents

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Speaker 4: to United Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: Now hear a.

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Speaker 2: Little English by way of Nigeria about hearing right or wrong?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, keep it a secret. I need that accent.

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Speaker 3: I'm no, I'm not letting it out.

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Speaker 1: Now. STEM. STEM is my degree in mathematics. Let me

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Speaker 1: just let you know.

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Speaker 2: So when we start talking to STEM and he's close

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Speaker 2: to home with me, talk about your your background in

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Speaker 2: STEM and before we get into your your agency, your

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Speaker 2: consulting agency.

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Speaker 4: So my background is STAM. I'm a biomedical scientist. So

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Speaker 4: I studied biomedical science degree and I mean the pathology

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Speaker 4: and diagnostics. So if I was to break it down

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Speaker 4: my background, I work behind the scenes in the hospital

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Speaker 4: labs to test patient samples, helping doctors to treat our patients.

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Speaker 2: Now we're in the world of AI. People are afraid

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Speaker 2: of AI. Do you have these people over here going

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Speaker 2: man AI is the they ain't the beat now in

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Speaker 2: your in the STEM world, it's a technical world where

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Speaker 2: AI lives in breeds talked about the AI components are

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Speaker 2: components that we'll be able to uplift STEM professions but

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Speaker 2: also now them in different directions.

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Speaker 4: Fair enough, that's a very good topic area to actually

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Speaker 4: speak on because I remember very a few years ago

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Speaker 4: when I started out, we were having this conversation that

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Speaker 4: automation is going to take our jobs in the lab.

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Speaker 4: And it was a right conversation because we're like, once

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Speaker 4: everything is automated, well we're going to be doing a

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Speaker 4: scientist in the lab.

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Speaker 3: But automation help. I'll give you a scenario.

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Speaker 4: So without automation, when we used to do the manual methods,

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Speaker 4: it takes us weeks sometimes like months to get results.

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Speaker 4: And imagine working in a very large hospital where you

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Speaker 4: need results in a timely manner, where you have like

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Speaker 4: thousands of patients that you're testing on a daily basis.

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Speaker 4: You cannot, you know, do that on a manual method.

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Speaker 4: So automation makes life easier. So that is where AI

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Speaker 4: is to some extent, is coming in for us in

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Speaker 4: the automation of the work process that we do, which

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Speaker 4: means we get faster results, we're able to get to

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Speaker 4: present prevent infections.

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Speaker 3: As you would call.

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Speaker 2: It, right, I would tell you that I can respond

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Speaker 2: to that BAMA daily. For instance, my blood tests, I

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Speaker 2: go in and I'm with Emory, We're based in Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: those results back in hours yep, I mean with accurate details.

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Speaker 2: I'll be going like wow, and the word wow comes

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Speaker 2: out of my mouth. I go wow, this is quick turnaround.

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Speaker 2: And so is that an hour related concept that's being implemented.

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Speaker 3: In the BO You could say that.

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Speaker 4: You can say that because automation you're programming is programming, right,

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Speaker 4: So you tell a machine what you wanted to do,

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Speaker 4: so it's based on data what you've been doing. So

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Speaker 4: it's based on evidence what we've done manually, and then

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Speaker 4: you're automating it. You're making you're making it like a

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Speaker 4: bigger how I would you say scaling? That is the word.

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Speaker 4: So you could potentially say AI. But if you're thinking

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Speaker 4: generative AI. Now where a lot of people are utilizing

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Speaker 4: and some people are still you know, resistant to it

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Speaker 3: But if you think about it, it's making you work smarter.

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Speaker 4: Basically, what you would have done that would have taken you,

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Speaker 4: I don't know hours or days to do.

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Speaker 3: You're doing it within minutes.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I think that's important because for my real

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Speaker 2: you know, as you get older, you want you do

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Speaker 2: want the new lot fast. Okay, absolutely, you know days

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Speaker 2: mean something to you, okay, and plus when when you're

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Speaker 1: But something you said about.

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Speaker 2: AI, there's AI also can create new jobs.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me.

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Speaker 4: They can certainly create new jobs. And that is why

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Speaker 4: you got to get on with it. You go to

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Speaker 4: that's what we call about professional development. You have to

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Speaker 4: be in it in the sense of you're thinking, AI

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Speaker 4: is taking my job. No, how can I leverage so

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Speaker 4: that I'm not left out? That is the way it is.

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Speaker 4: If you're thinking about our job project management. Now everything

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Speaker 4: is AI like talk from coding, talk from you know, architecture,

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Speaker 4: name it, everything that has been done. So you need

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Speaker 4: to be best positioned to like you take certification, take whatever,

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Speaker 4: just off scale to make sure that you're not left behind.

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Speaker 4: So what they say is AI is not taking your jobs,

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Speaker 4: but those that was in order AI will be left behind.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my guess is the founder of No Ceiling Consulting.

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Speaker 2: They have organizations and individuals unlocked potential, elevate performance and

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Speaker 2: lead with purpose. Now let's talk about unlocking potential. What

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Speaker 2: do you mean when you say that?

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Speaker 4: When I say unlocking potential? A lot of us we

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Speaker 4: have so much in us, but you're thinking where.

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Speaker 3: Do I start?

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Speaker 4: You like, I'll give an example, whether you've reached a

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Speaker 4: So how do you unlock your potential? That is where

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Speaker 4: you come to do what we call reflection. Then you

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Speaker 4: So you're helping it's more or less like you put it,

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Speaker 4: like coaching, where you're letting people to see what their

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Speaker 4: strengths out. You know, what's the vision? Was it aspiration?

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Speaker 4: Then you're teasing it out because mainly they have the skills,

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Speaker 4: the opportunities. And so that is what this is what

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Speaker 4: we do at No Ceiling consulting, helping individuals, helping organizations,

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Speaker 4: helping communities. And the way it started off is like

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Speaker 4: for example, mentorship. So we have wont to want to

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Speaker 4: understand what their issues are. Where is the stumping block,

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Speaker 4: where is the issue? How can we help? Is it

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Speaker 4: leveraging your skills? Is it like you need to obscure

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Speaker 4: what it is the issue? So what I call it

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Speaker 4: root course of why somebody may feel like stagnated, for example,

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Speaker 4: you don't know how to actually help them.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's important that you understand the process because let's

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Speaker 2: talk about moving over to you know that ceiling. You know,

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Speaker 2: like I said, my degrees are mad that work for

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Speaker 2: the color of your skin can also make you feel

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Speaker 2: there is a ceiling out there. But you do see

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Speaker 2: people despite the color of the skin achieve high level.

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Speaker 1: Of success as an entrepreneurs in the corporate environment. What

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Speaker 1: ceiling are you talking about? Probatary?

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, should we start. There's a lot of ceilings,

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Speaker 4: some are personal, some are professional.

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Speaker 1: So much talk about the personal one first.

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Speaker 4: The personal, Yes, the personal I feel is more internal

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Speaker 4: like way we have. The mind is the mind because

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Speaker 4: despart having all the how you say, how well equipped

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Speaker 4: you are, You've got the credentials, you've got the result,

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Speaker 4: That's a personal ceiling because you're thinking to yourself, I

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Speaker 4: can't do it. Whereas you have there's some things internally

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Speaker 4: that is letting you know that. It's because you've got

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Speaker 4: to show up more, You've got to prove something. And

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Speaker 4: there's a reason why that may be the case. You

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Speaker 4: mentioned about biases, you mentioned about systemic barriers, you know

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Speaker 4: that could potentially lead to one having that you know,

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Speaker 4: that ceiling mindset as a you know individually it's because

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Speaker 4: of things that has happened. For example, maybe somebody looking

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Speaker 4: if eventually they will feel like maybe it's not for me,

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Speaker 4: where mentorship comes in.

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Speaker 2: Right, and so now let's talk about professional you know,

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Speaker 2: because like I said, you can be work under the job,

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Speaker 1: That's professional, correct.

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Speaker 3: It is talk to us.

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Speaker 4: The professional one is a very is one that is

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Speaker 4: very dear to my heart because I think at one

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Speaker 4: point in our professional life we've all hit that ceiling.

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Speaker 4: Yes we have, we have where you feel like I'm

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Speaker 4: ready for the next level. But I think one of

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Speaker 4: but you don't have access to access. So let me

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Speaker 4: explain that there's there's resources are available to you, but

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Speaker 4: accessing that that resources is another thing. And there are

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Speaker 4: you know ceilings, there's so many things. Then we talk

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Speaker 4: about when you're being overlooked for promotion, where opportunities are

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Speaker 4: there and they're like you're not already, tells.

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Speaker 3: You I'm not ready.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the reason why I'm here. I'm ready, you know,

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Speaker 4: to progress, but you have these systemic barriers in place,

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Speaker 4: which you know, we can't go into too much details

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Speaker 3: You know, just stops you.

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Speaker 2: Because they're there, you know, like I said, whether you do,

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Speaker 2: whether you feel they are real or not, it does

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Speaker 2: are you with the challenge, how or what effort? Because

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Speaker 2: I was hired with two other white dudes. And when

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master Class.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to Money Making Conversation master Class with me

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Speaker 2: Right, let's talk about setbacks now. You said setbacks can't

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Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of people here that go.

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Speaker 2: Setback, setback, like Macato, that's sudden this strategy. But I

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Speaker 2: Strategy doesn't mean it's convenient. Strategy is that what is

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Speaker 1: Is there another time, another words, just hearing it.

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Speaker 2: There are paths. Yes, the path you see may not

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: And I'm thoroughly enjoying this conversation because it's thought provoking

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Speaker 1: We are not where we are at, because we're looking

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Speaker 1: That you know why.

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Speaker 4: It's so easy. But in your complaining, I mean you

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Speaker 4: Because life is all about risk. You take risks everything

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Speaker 1: It's really key, It really is key. Now, how do

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Speaker 4: I can categorically say to you, Grace carried me to

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Speaker 4: where I am today. There comes times where even the

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Speaker 4: noise your family. They can't really understand, especially when you

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Speaker 4: have momental rejections of setback. There's something in you. You

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Speaker 4: can put it to words. That is when I go,

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Speaker 4: I go into my closet, I speak to my God.

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Speaker 4: You know, I have a conversation. Look, things are not

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Speaker 4: going the way I plan. And you already told me

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Speaker 4: everything works together for my goods.

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Speaker 3: You, Oh my God.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I have conversations. I love it. I'm friendly in

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Speaker 4: love it talks back because it's just laughing. He's thinking,

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Speaker 4: look at this one. Only if you know what I

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Speaker 4: have planned for you. And you know what I can say.

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Speaker 4: My life is a living testimony because for every step,

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Speaker 4: every setback, I've come back like you know, when you

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Speaker 4: come back, well, you know stronger.

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Speaker 2: I always tell people, you know, because a lot of

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Speaker 2: people use faith to make a lot of decisions on

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Speaker 2: and I respect that. But when you you can't tie

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Speaker 2: faith in business, you better have that business plan then

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Speaker 2: you can tie it all together. But just shows up

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Speaker 2: out there on faith, then it's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 2: of a lot of consequences that you didn't justiciate. Now

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Speaker 2: you're putting all that pressure on God and.

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Speaker 1: Pray work come at.

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Speaker 2: But again, you know in our conversation you have another

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Speaker 2: called BAMS.

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Speaker 1: You found that BAMS B A. M. S. Spleet explain

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Speaker 1: to us. And then it's association with no ceiling.

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Speaker 3: You see the BAMS. Really it's about me.

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Speaker 4: The BOMBS is man, they said, you know, whatever they

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Speaker 4: want to call it, BAMBS is as an individual, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's personal. But when it comes to the no ceiling,

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Speaker 4: the no ceiling is because in conversations I've been having

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Speaker 4: over the years, you keep hearing, especially within the professional space,

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Speaker 4: or we're breaking ceilings and I'm like, why we which

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Speaker 4: ceilings are we breaking? Even then it didn't click in

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Speaker 4: my mind because we speak about breaking barriers, but barriers

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Speaker 4: is the same, you can say the same as a ceiling,

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Speaker 4: because ceiling, like we're looking up now, you can't you can't.

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Speaker 3: Go beyond that, right right, right? You can go?

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Speaker 4: So and then consistently breaking ceiling is I said, it's tiring, right,

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Speaker 4: So I said, so, I was thinking, why do we

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Speaker 4: even have a ceiling in the first place? So what

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Speaker 4: we what we construt as a ceiling? Can we can

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Speaker 4: we do without it?

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Speaker 1: Right? Right? So?

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Speaker 4: Well, and you know ceiling is resistance ceiling is like

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Speaker 4: an opposition. Ceiling is like stagnancy, you know, something like

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Speaker 4: an obstacle that is stopping you for So say no ceiling.

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Speaker 3: Let's operate in a world where we don't see the ceiling.

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Speaker 4: We see like possibilities, opportunlar opportunities.

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Speaker 1: You know. I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that because of the fact that you know,

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Speaker 2: we do live you know, you know, I grew up

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Speaker 2: in a black neighborhood, and you watch television, there's stereotypes.

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Speaker 1: Those are ceilings.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, you know I always consider a welfare

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Speaker 2: that's a ceiling, you know, living a lifestyle, growing up

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Speaker 2: in a a in a black neighborhood, it's a ceiling culture,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: And so it's how you look at that.

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Speaker 2: And I look at my life. You know, I dealt

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Speaker 2: with all the ceiling. I wasn't no welfare with my family.

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Speaker 2: My father worked, he was a truck driver, and my

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Speaker 2: mom raised us with six sisters, two brothers. But I

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Speaker 2: do know that my number one goal was the neighborhood

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Speaker 2: I live in. It wasn't the neighborhood I was going

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Speaker 2: to die, Okay. And with that being said, it was

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Speaker 2: important for people to understand that the values that I

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Speaker 2: got were all from people that saw something in me

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Speaker 2: that I didn't see in myself. Mentorship, yes, okay, so

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Speaker 2: let's start putting this together. So I said, I wasn't

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Speaker 2: going to die in the neighborhood that I grew up in.

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Speaker 2: That's a ceiling that I removed. We talked about mentorship.

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Speaker 2: Two ladies in high school, Linda Trailer, my biology teacher,

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Speaker 2: Georgia Nelson, my math teacher, were the two people that

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Speaker 2: saw things in me I didn't see. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Georgia Nelson, math teacher. Okay, I got a degree in

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Speaker 2: math and didn't like her class at all, but she

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Speaker 2: was always saying, you are special, you unique, and so

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Speaker 2: it took me seven years to graduate.

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Speaker 1: That's a setback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But the strategy is.

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Speaker 2: I venture got my degree, and so when I look

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Speaker 2: at you and I think about you being a certified

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Speaker 2: agile project manager, how do agile principles apply beyond technology

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Speaker 2: and how do you use it in leadership?

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Speaker 3: A j'all. The word says it itself. Speed.

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Speaker 4: You're thinking on your feet, you're thinking possibility, you're thinking opportunities.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, how do I use in leadership? You

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Speaker 4: don't see barriers. You see what can we make of

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Speaker 4: this barrier? In leadership, when you think about AJIA, you're

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Speaker 4: thinking about self managing, accountability, collaboration. When we're speaking about

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Speaker 4: your principles, that is what it's all about. And when

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Speaker 4: and serven leadership. Servin leadership is key because as a leader,

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Speaker 4: you need to serve in your serving your building, leader,

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Speaker 4: in your serving your your team.

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Speaker 3: They see what is possible.

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Speaker 4: So when you're thinking our jib again, you're thinking self managing.

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Speaker 4: You know, you you make people to be able to.

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Speaker 3: Believe in themselves. You don't.

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Speaker 4: So that's where like when it comes to delegation, you

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Speaker 4: don't micromanage. When it comes to you know, your team

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Speaker 4: and individuals within your team. The transition for me because

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Speaker 4: remember I'm a scientist. Yeah, then transitioning into tech our

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Speaker 4: job project management, I found that there way similar. How

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Speaker 4: do you say, uh, what is the word I'm looking for? Terminologies?

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Speaker 4: We speak the same language, but we use different Oh

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Speaker 4: what is the word I'm looking for? Like, you know,

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Speaker 4: doing the same thing differently, because when we when we

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Speaker 4: speak about our JIB, you're thinking about something that is done.

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Speaker 4: You have a minimum viable product, Like there was so

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Speaker 4: you're not waiting until you get you You plan everything.

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Speaker 4: You're consistently reflecting, You're consistently thinking how can we improve?

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Speaker 4: That is that is what we call when we speak

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Speaker 4: about our jib so and in this world, isn't he needed?

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Speaker 3: Is needed?

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Speaker 4: If something feels you're thinking, Okay, what do we do next?

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Speaker 4: How do we move from here? You know what is

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Speaker 4: the next? What is the next things for us to

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Speaker 4: work on?

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, she's created no ceilings, a philosophy that when

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Speaker 2: I look back on, that's what I've lived by my

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Speaker 2: entire life. And I want to thank you for coming

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Speaker 2: on Money Making Conversations master Class.

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Speaker 1: GF are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Here we are?

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