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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season fourteen, episode three

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Speaker 1: of DOS Daily's Eight Guys for January eighteen, two thousand eighteen.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien a K jacks Cab Confession,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.

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Speaker 1: That's right, it's your boy, gray Z. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: Carl Slate for that a K. Did you just come

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Speaker 1: up with Jacksie cab confexis confections confection confessions yourself? I did? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I give myself credit. Yeah, I saw that courtesy of

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Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Yeah, and we are thrilled to

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Speaker 1: have in our third seat today. He is a hilarious

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Speaker 1: median and he is the co creator and star of

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Speaker 1: the new Comedy Central show Corporate. Please welcome Jake Weissman. Hey, Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: Hey Jake Jakes Cat Confession Night. I was also named

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Speaker 1: after a Jack, so I think if he was a father,

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Speaker 1: where are you really named after? It was someone I've

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Speaker 1: never met. It with my dad's dad, But it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I'll way to do that much. Yeah, perfectly, I appreciate that,

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Speaker 1: and that is appropriate. Jake. What's something from your search

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Speaker 1: history that is revealing that who you are a hunning. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is sad, and I didn't I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I wanted to admit it, but literally my own name.

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Speaker 1: And that's just because my most honest answer we've ever received,

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Speaker 1: just because I have the show came out and I

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Speaker 1: have been obsessively checking reviews, which is exactly what you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't do for your mental health. You definitely shouldn't admit

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Speaker 1: to it because it's so narcissistic, but everyone would and

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Speaker 1: everyone does. So it's just Jake Weisman refreshed, Jake Wisemanna refresh,

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Speaker 1: Jake weisen refreshed. And um, the only interesting really thing

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Speaker 1: about it is that there's another there's a few other

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Speaker 1: Jake Wiseman's, and I'm crushing them right now. And I

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Speaker 1: feel like I know that other Jake Weisman's are like

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Speaker 1: that guy like haunting them. I'm not taunting them, but

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Speaker 1: I want to do you have you have the Jake

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Speaker 1: Wiseman handle, right, No, I have Weisman Jake so and

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Speaker 1: and it's because another Jake Wiseman got it. But that's okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's fine. I think sometimes they get tags

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Speaker 1: and stuff that's not them and They're very aware that

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Speaker 1: I'm winning. Yeah, I feel like you need to. You

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Speaker 1: need to win two things in life. One is be

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Speaker 1: the coolest of your name and second your high school reunion.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what high school union, and I'm

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Speaker 1: working on it, but I'm definitely winning, Jake Weison. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm losing both of those. There's a great play director

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Speaker 1: named Jack O'Brien. Uh. I was on an NPR show

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Speaker 1: and the NPR host was like, oh, are you Jack's assistant.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, I am Jack. He was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I thought you were Jack O'Brien, the theater director. It

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Speaker 1: was like visibly disappointed. Uh. For me. There's a club

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Speaker 1: promoter named Miles Gray who like went to college with

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Speaker 1: one of my high school friends, and he has that

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Speaker 1: he has the handle, so I had to come up

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Speaker 1: with a clever one. And then there's another guy who's

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Speaker 1: a friend of me on Facebook who lives in Australia.

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Speaker 1: He's like this middle aged dude and like his photos

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Speaker 1: are one is a baby drinking a beer, which I

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Speaker 1: think is like his own kid, and another is him

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Speaker 1: breastfeed a wallaby. So I don't know, it's a push

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Speaker 1: for me, okay, very Australian born to be a father.

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Speaker 1: You are losing giving life to so many things, Jake,

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Speaker 1: what's something you think is overrated? Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri,

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Speaker 1: the film that won Best Picture at the Golden Globes.

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Speaker 1: I think it is a trash film. I think anyone

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Speaker 1: who likes it is under a spell. Akin to being

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Speaker 1: a scientologist. I think it's a terrible, racist, sexist, unfunny, uh,

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Speaker 1: not good at all movie, and that everyone is wrong

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Speaker 1: and they are sheep who like the movie. Um, you

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Speaker 1: cause a bit of quite a controversy, didn't you. I

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Speaker 1: did because my tweets about it got into the moments

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Speaker 1: being like, I'm not a sheep and I like the movie.

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Speaker 1: I'm a human. Look it's me all the parts a

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Speaker 1: human has. I don't have furry skin. Uh yeah. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's a really bad movie. And um, in

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is gonna be something. These

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Speaker 1: that's how I feel about that movie. And I just

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Speaker 1: it's one of those movies like Crash and Crashes obviously

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Speaker 1: trying to warn as many people to not be on

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Speaker 1: the wrong side of history, because how embarrassing is it

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Speaker 1: to be, Like, Yeah, I actually liked Crash, and I

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Speaker 1: watched again and it was as if a toddler made it. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: so that time I feeling, but I haven't seen it

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Speaker 1: because precisely for this reason, because I remember, like initially,

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Speaker 1: was like the hood forign Press who in the Golden Globes. God, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and she's an old she's an older woman, which is

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Speaker 1: kind of indicative of what that group of voters is, right.

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Speaker 1: And at first everyone's like, Oh, this movie is great,

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Speaker 1: because it's very specifically a foreign person's view of what

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Speaker 1: America outsider, like very unsubtle critique of like, you know,

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Speaker 1: who aren't from this country, who are you know, what's

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Speaker 1: the elevator pitch for this? Because I haven't seen I

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Speaker 1: just know it's about like a racist cop. Uh yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that kind of the gist? Sort of? It's not

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Speaker 1: America and redemption and revenge, and it's not about anything.

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Speaker 1: It's just some guy who wants to be Quentin Tarantino

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Speaker 1: Tarantino anymore? No? And everyone goes, have you seen in Bruge?

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Speaker 1: But I've seen Seven Psychopaths and it's pure garbage. It's

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Speaker 1: not good at all. But everyone's like seeing Bruge. But

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Speaker 1: like anything this film and it's just good. I've heard that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't hate it as much as you did, but

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Speaker 1: Jack puffing up his chest at you. What what's something

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Speaker 1: that's derrated? A bunch of things are underrated. I think

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Speaker 1: And most vegetarian places, especially in l A, are mostly

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Speaker 1: like tempest soy, you know what I mean. But Veggie

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Speaker 1: Notting Hill Okay, so notting Hill, and it's underrated. Here's

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Speaker 1: we talk about every day and the way this super

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Speaker 1: insane narcissist has taken over all of our lives. He's

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Speaker 1: really good at what he does, and we can't do

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00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: anything about it. There's nothing to do because become so

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Speaker 1: bipartisan and nobody cares about people. Everyone wants to get rich,

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Speaker 1: and um, it's it's it's so horrible that it's the

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Speaker 1: funniest joke of all time. Truly, I cannot get to

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Speaker 1: a real place. So you think your existential dread has

429
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Speaker 1: just sort of like morphed into just like like like

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna laugh myself. What else is there to do?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the worst person ever made is

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Speaker 1: in charge of the world. How is that not funny? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean I think because we have to like read

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Speaker 1: about it every day. I don't. I've I've noticed that.

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Speaker 1: I in the beginning, I just fucking ball my fists something,

436
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: and now I'm just like, well, look, I have to

437
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: just observe what is happening in the world. I'm trying

438
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: to be removed from it and also optimistic that like

439
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: really the only thing that can try and curb this

440
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: is like the midterm elections and like you know, begin

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Speaker 1: to shift Congress. But you know, I think the system

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00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: is broken, and that's a whole other show that we

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Speaker 1: can get into. It is broken. And what's funny, it's

444
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: weird because you know, I wanted Hillary to win, but

445
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Speaker 1: even if a Hillary one still would have been a

446
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: broken system, no, no question about it. So it's sort

447
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Speaker 1: of like, maybe it's good that we're all getting aware

448
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: how broken it is, but it's also like, oh man,

449
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: we're just fucked. Just really fun. Go follow your dreams.

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Speaker 1: You know you might as well. Yeah, And I don't

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Speaker 1: know that. I mean, I think narcissism and the fact

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Speaker 1: that we elected our biggest narcissists at a point where

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Speaker 1: I think our culture is maybe the is narcissistic. It's

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Speaker 1: ever been with you know that social media was like

455
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: built to sort of echo chamber our narcissism and like

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Speaker 1: make narcissism the main value of like a culture, and

457
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: then we elected our biggest narcissists. But I don't feel

458
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Speaker 1: like that's a self correcting thing where we're gonna be like, oh,

459
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: so it's kind of our fault for valuing the stuff

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Speaker 1: that he's good at I think it's just we're going

461
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Speaker 1: to look at the institutions and be like they're they're

462
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Speaker 1: the ones that broke, not not us. Yea, yeah, it's

463
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Speaker 1: like x mockia, we've built the robot that will destroy us. Um.

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Speaker 1: The other spoiler, uh, the other thing that The other

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Speaker 1: place I've been running into Trump supporters, uh, other than

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Speaker 1: in my Twitter mentions is New York Times Letters to

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Speaker 1: the editor. They just uh withheld their opinion pieces for

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Speaker 1: a whole day and gave us letters from Trump supporters

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Speaker 1: who are happy with the way the first year of

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Speaker 1: his administration went um, and reading the first one was

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Speaker 1: somewhat enlightening. I was like, Okay, I can see where

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00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: that one's coming from. And then it was like reading

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Speaker 1: the same letter over and over again, the same four points,

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Speaker 1: which I guess is maybe a result of their being

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Speaker 1: for possible ways to view the past year. But if

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Speaker 1: you think about like the RNC or the White House,

477
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: like these are the exact same hooks that they're trying

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Speaker 1: to hang their hat on. So when you're getting that,

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Speaker 1: you're getting just sort of inundated with that message where

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Speaker 1: they're from conservative media, then I guess it's no surprise

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Speaker 1: that that's what they talk about. So it's the economy, isis.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's basically it, right, that's most like defeated

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Speaker 1: ices or the tax right tax cuts, which is the economy, which, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, both of them are two different extents taking

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Speaker 1: credit for things that were already happening under the Obama administration. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the economy, sir, only as part of a continuing trend.

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Speaker 1: And isis you know, the they really didn't reverse course

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Speaker 1: or change anything about how the U. S. Military was

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Speaker 1: attacking Isis they just kind of continued and the result

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Speaker 1: of the bombardment was that isis lost a lot of

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Speaker 1: their land. Uh, but you know, good things. But I mean, y, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that did happen, So I can't can't really you know,

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Speaker 1: fault him for that. But also then I guess the

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Speaker 1: other thing too, is they also point all the court

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Speaker 1: nominations like, oh we have you know, like people like

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Speaker 1: Neil Gorsch in the Supreme Court and these other district

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Speaker 1: court appointees. Yeah, I mean, those are things that happened.

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Speaker 1: But like I have a feeling that over time you're

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Speaker 1: gonna look back at some of these appointees and like

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Speaker 1: these are these are not good. Well, yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: describing the appointees as strong judicial appointees, which is crazy

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Speaker 1: because they saw some of those nominees unanimously ranked by

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Speaker 1: bipartisan you know commissions as like the least qualified UH

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Speaker 1: nominees of all time. I do think it's important to

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00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: just try to take the positives about what Trump is doing,

506
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 1: not in anything he's doing, but how he's doing it.

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00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: It's like, if you want to accomplish something, just first

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00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: of all, be rich, but also keep saying that what

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Speaker 1: you're doing is good, no matter if people are like no,

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Speaker 1: it's obviously not be like no, it is Roger straight,

511
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Speaker 1: I'm great. Someone will believe you because people are afraid

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Speaker 1: to be leaders. And if you say you're a leader,

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00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: eventually they're gonna let you run something and if you

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Speaker 1: want to. Because I think what's interesting about what's going

515
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Speaker 1: on right now is like we want to live in

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Speaker 1: this socialist utopia, but we don't and we never will

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Speaker 1: because people are people and so and there's just this

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Speaker 1: like complete sort of um inaccuracy to the idea that

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Speaker 1: people even want to quality Like people don't they're not

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Speaker 1: taught well enough. We have no there's too many competing

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Speaker 1: um industries of thought and it's capitalism is too rugged

522
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: I think for that ever to be that great. And

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Speaker 1: I think right now he's like, listen, you have to

524
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Speaker 1: go grab power. I'm doing it illegally. It works, and

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00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: I think it should just inspire to go out and

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Speaker 1: go after stuff. And that's a terrible opinion, but I

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00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: think it's right. Great caveat it that. But not all

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Speaker 1: the letters were totally like sunshine and rainbows. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think they specifically focused on Trump supporters who were

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00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: happy with us first year, and then they are going

531
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: to or have already published some from people who are

532
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: less thrilled about how how things have gone, um, people

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Speaker 1: who voted for him. And then we also saw, you know,

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Speaker 1: in some town halls that we talked about on yesterday's show, uh,

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Speaker 1: in counties that voted that Trump won by you know,

536
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: the people at the town halls were not too pleased

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Speaker 1: with how how things were going. Um. And another, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of going with the economy thing, there's a big

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00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: news story that Apple and Trump have sort of won

540
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Speaker 1: the day with because of the tax reform, Apple is

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00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: now going to bring all this money that they were

542
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, hiding from Americans, uh, in offshore accounts bringing

543
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: it back, and you know, America is going to get

544
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: billions of dollars and spending sillions and billions of dollars

545
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: and spending. I think the number that they keep quoting

546
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: is what billion dollars Apple has pledged to spend over

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Speaker 1: the next five years, um, which sounds that sounds like

548
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Uh, but if you look at

549
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Speaker 1: what they were on course to spend before any of

550
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: the tax cuts happened, it would have been two D

551
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Speaker 1: seventy five billions. So it's not you know, we're talking

552
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Speaker 1: about an incremental seventy billion. Still good Um, But yeah,

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00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's like focusing on a very small part

554
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: of the picture. Uh. Still I don't know. I guess

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00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: I guess it's good that they're bringing the money back.

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00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I don't know it Like, like, what

557
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: what are we That's a problem. The problem with Trump

558
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: talking about fake news is that now I'm like, is

559
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: news fake? Not the news he's talking about, but like

560
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: what what is even anyone talking about? It seems like

561
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: every reporter has a spin, even this, which is seems

562
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: like a fact. It's like, I don't know, I don't

563
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: know what we're talking about, Like, Okay, it's gonna be

564
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: spent in this country because the thing is like dollars

565
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of money, but is it you know, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know will that help anyone? Who is that helping?

567
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Well, that's what economists are saying,

568
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: is like, sure you can say that, but even econmots

569
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: who are like experts in this like that, it's hard

570
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: to say that's going to have any like tangible effect

571
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: on the day to day lit it's just a number,

572
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: like but it's they can say a number and it

573
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: sounds big, but you're like, but what does that actually mean? Right?

574
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: I have no idea what that means? Right, And that

575
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: money is like one part of the picture, and then

576
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Speaker 1: if you look over at a different place, it's adding

577
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, billions and billions of dollars to the deficit,

578
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Speaker 1: which I know even less what that means. Uh, Like

579
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Speaker 1: I know that that means that the government is spending

580
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: money that they don't have, but you know what's going

581
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: to happen, Like what what's the eventual time when that

582
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: comes due? And how are we going to pay for it?

583
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Speaker 1: If it ever does come to we're just gonna be

584
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Speaker 1: like the dude who goes to the restaurant with no

585
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: cash and the check comes and then you goes, uh yeah,

586
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: that that's how Miles handles most of our lunches I do.

587
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm always like, I got this guy's y'all go outside

588
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: and uh let me let me do my cry thing.

589
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: So a lot of people are speculating that the place

590
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Speaker 1: that that money comes from, and usually has in the past,

591
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: is you know, once your deficit becomes uh too big

592
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: and you have to start paying it back, then they

593
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: start taking away entitlements, and entitlements are just you know,

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00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: the government helping poor people for the most part. Now

595
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: they're enabling lazy assholes. Man. Even the word entitlement, it's

596
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: just so upset. That's like you think you're entitled to

597
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: live like a basic human wood or just um the

598
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: way that they call the way Trump calls um rich

599
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: black people they need to be grateful. It's very similar.

600
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: It's like, you're lucky, we're giving you anything. You feel entitled.

601
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: This this is our country. We were pilgrims, you weren't,

602
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: you know. It's so weird and coded and not even

603
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: coded it's just entitlement. It sounds like a father chastising

604
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: a child, you know, for wanting their allowance. It really does. Um.

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Speaker 1: So elsewhere in Washington, Uh, there might be a government

606
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: shutdown and this is all tied up in this is

607
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: sort of how people interact with Trump. Uh so what

608
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: one of the big details is immigration that uh nobody

609
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: can quite agree on in DACA. And John Kelly, Trump's

610
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: chief of staff, just said that he basically evolved Trump's

611
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: thinking on the border wall and he probably did and

612
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: he probably did, uh and also talked about how it

613
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Speaker 1: was his idea to give DOCCA like the six months

614
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 1: to allow Congress to fix it, rather than just like

615
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: saying DOCCA is over, like Ice is coming for you.

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00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's uh and sadly right. So he's taken credit for that,

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Speaker 1: And this is like textbook how not to deal with Trump. Like,

618
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the people who work for Trump have

619
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: not learned that you don't ever ever take credit for,

620
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, telling him what to do, because then he

621
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: immediately reacts badly. And our engineer and producer Nick Stump

622
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: kind of put together an outline of just how this

623
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Speaker 1: has worked with regards to DACA. So in September, Trump

624
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: has this dinner with Chuck and Nancy that's supposedly very cordial,

625
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: and they outline a deal on DOCCA. Uh, no border

626
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: walls included. Everybody's happy. They take like photo ops and

627
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: there's just mutual love everywhere. And then you know, Chuck

628
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: and Nancy, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi sort of crip

629
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: walk out of the office and are just like celebrating

630
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: for the cameras, and uh, Trump is like fun that

631
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Speaker 1: the deal's off. I didn't agree to anything. Uh. Then

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Speaker 1: more recently, uh, Diane Feinstein like owns Trump in this

633
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: January nine meeting in front of the the press, gets him

634
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: to agree to a clean DOCCA bill. Uh. January the

635
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: media sort of crowded and made fun of him. Uh.

636
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: And then January eleven, Trump is just fully dug in

637
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: on this like hardline garbage position where you know, he

638
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: starts talking about ship hole countries. Uh. And now we

639
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: have John Kelly sort of taking a victory lap about

640
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: how he influenced Trump on immigration issues and says the

641
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: six month DOCTA extension was something he ordered. And you know,

642
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: on on the wall he says, quote certain things are

643
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: said during the campaign that are uninformed. Uh yeah, so

644
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: that ship is like he's not going to be happy

645
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: about that. And that's and we're already seeing that Trump

646
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: has like is basically shit canning this bill that was

647
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: going to sort of extend things and uh, you know,

648
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: avoid a government shutdown, right, Like there wasn't there some

649
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: sort of bill to extend it seems like uh, Dick

650
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: Durban and Lindsey Graham had come to like a bipartisan

651
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: solution of things. And that's when like ship just started

652
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: falling apart and the two like it's become a moving

653
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: target to even know what Trump wants anymore, Like how

654
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: to how to solve this, Like do we avoid the

655
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: shutdown with uh just like a limited spending bill but

656
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: also add CHIP funding to get Democrats on board. The

657
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: problem is for the child health insurance program. So yeah,

658
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: basically the I think in October the Republicans just like

659
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: we we just let CHIP funding laps. So there are

660
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: a lot of kids who rely on the government for

661
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: health insurance, Like these funds are drying up rapidly, and

662
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: now they'll be very vulnerable children who don't have access

663
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: to healthcare that they need. Um, and this seems like

664
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: a very easy thing to agree on. It's like, we want,

665
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, poor kids to be able to have insurance

666
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: or access to healthcare. But it's become like this bargaining

667
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: tool and now like it's become the same game of

668
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: chicken between the Publicans and Democrats of like who's gonna

669
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: blink and let the government shut down or not pass it,

670
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: you know, avoid a government shutdown. And it's ultimately looks

671
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: like the Democrats are digging in. They're like, look, you

672
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: have the Senate, you have the House, and you have

673
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: the White House, so I don't tell us we're obstructing

674
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: it because you know, this is clearly you have a

675
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: ton of infighting on your side of things that you

676
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: haven't started out. And we're here trying to say like

677
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: we want you know, we want CHIP, we want CHIP

678
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: funding UH paid in full, and we also want to

679
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: clean Dream Act, so we don't want kids to die,

680
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: and we want people who have lived most of their

681
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: life in America to not be deported to countries and

682
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: people who are contributing to the country too. And I

683
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: think it's crazy too, because now you know, they're trying

684
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: to act like these kids aren't you know, worthwhile people

685
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: contributing to American society And that's completely false, right, But

686
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: because Trump feels like people are not giving him this

687
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: proper respect, he's kind of stopped stopped that bill from

688
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: going through, is basically gumming up the works. But also

689
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: it's no surprise that after John Kelly is like I evolved,

690
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: the President's like peace there his position on it that

691
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: this morning he's like, oh no, my vision of the

692
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: boarder has never changed or evolved, so you shouldn't know.

693
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: But it would love to live with that kind of

694
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: blind self confidence. I mean, that's all all these stories

695
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: come back to the same thing. For me. It's like

696
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: he can just say something and then later say that

697
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: I didn't say that thing. I always said this thing,

698
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: and enough people believe him, and it's like, it's just

699
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: that's what I'm You have to take the positives out

700
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: of horrible situations. And all I'm doing is learning how

701
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: to be And uh, I wish I won't hope I

702
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: maintained being a good person, but it's nice to know

703
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: that if I'm a bad person who consistently lies, it

704
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Right, It's a good take away. It's really good.

705
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: I mean it would be fun, Like the evil part

706
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: of me just think of like if you if the

707
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: stakes weren't so high, like the kind of mind games

708
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: you'd play with Trump to get him do the stuff

709
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: you wanted, and just like funk with other people, like dude,

710
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: watch I'm gonna get this ship done, and just go

711
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: in there and be like, dude, that was such a

712
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: good idea, man, and then get him to like very

713
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: basic stuff like how you deal with the difficult bosses.

714
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: You get them to think that a good idea was

715
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: their idea, and you compliment the ship out of them

716
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: about having come up with that idea. Um, corporate is

717
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: actually really good at just uh, you know, portraying how

718
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: bullshit corporate culture works and how bosses will take credit

719
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: for everything, and uh, how did you guys get into

720
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been asked this a million times and

721
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: I think I saw you asked this on uh the

722
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: seth Meyer Show, But like, all right, how did you

723
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: guys like sort of get into that mind frame of

724
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: of just asshole corporate leadership. Well, Matt, who was in

725
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: the show with me, had worked a few corporate jobs,

726
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: but I've just worked jobs all jobs of the same

727
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: human beings. Aren't that complex? You know? You kind of

728
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: see it everywhere. Yeah, ship rolls downhill. Everyone's terrified. And

729
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: then also when we were writing the show, we called

730
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: people from Amazon and Google. We had some friends of

731
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: friends who worked there, and we asked them what it

732
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: was lie and they're like, no, it's everything you suspect.

733
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: It's just corporate warfare. It's a nightmare. Everyone's out, everyone's scared,

734
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: acting out of fear, and they're trained to be They're

735
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: like cult members. I feel like every corporation is a cult,

736
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: and so then they become monsters and hurt the new

737
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: initiated cult members and whip them into existence. So yeah,

738
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: it's just it's more just human nature, I think, which

739
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: is why I want to live in a socialist paradise,

740
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: but we like we can't because we live in this

741
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: capitalist nightmare that is just like it truly benefits the

742
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: most evil people most of the time. Right, Trump's personality

743
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: defects are like the Konami code for capitalism. If I

744
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: didn't up up, down, down, left, right left, right, if

745
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: I didn't, if I felt less empathy, I would be rich.

746
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: And that's so sad because like rich is what's rewarded

747
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: in today's society. So you're prized for your lack of

748
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: empathy And that's a good joke except that it's real.

749
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how popular this podcast would

750
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: be if we were like men's rights active, ud, toxic, masculated, Like,

751
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: I don't see the problem with all this fucking just

752
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: me to ship man, It's like fucking relax, Um, what

753
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: about me too? Yeah? Um? This is kind of a

754
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: great insight into how the people around Trump are sort

755
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: of learning about how to deal with him. Uh. Lindsay

756
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: Graham was asked if Trump was racist, and his response

757
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: was pretty telling. I think I think we have the

758
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: clip of that. Why don't you ask me? Is he

759
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: a racist? That was my next question? Okay, why don't

760
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: you ask me? Do you think? Absolutely not? Let me

761
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: tell you what you could be and dark as charcoal

762
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: and lily white. It doesn't matter as long as you're

763
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: nice to it. You could be the pope and criticize him.

764
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. He'll go after the pope. You could

765
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: be putin and say nice things and he will like you.

766
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: Here's what I found. He's a street fighter. That's not

767
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: the color of your skin that matters. It's not the

768
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: content of your character is whether or not you show

769
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: him respect and like him. And if he feels like

770
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: you're all script you don't like him, he punches back,

771
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: and as president of the United States, the only advice

772
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: I can give you is that the street fights over

773
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: he mentioned, he goes he's such a bad person. Lindsay

774
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: Graham's a bad person because he's like pretending to be

775
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: kind of liberal, but it's deeply conservative, like when he

776
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: says woke ship. Yeah, you're talking about that. Also, why

777
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: are they asking a white person if he's racist? It's

778
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: so stupid. Yeah, he's a street fighter. Man, which one

779
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: do you think he is? I think he's Blanca or

780
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: maybe Guile. Actually guile makes more sense at all. Yeah,

781
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: but did he think that was like defense? I don't

782
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: know what it was like, partly to defense on what

783
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: he fights against anyone calling him out is not racist

784
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: because he fights against anyone calling him out, even though

785
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: most people calling him out are not white. Right, what

786
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: are we talking about? That's the funny thing about, Like

787
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: you don't get to say you're not racist, Like if

788
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: people are calling you racist, you're racist. That's like it

789
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with what you think you are.

790
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: But I mean, like the better version of that answer

791
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: would have been like, look, yes he's racist, but also

792
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: here's the thing, even if you're black, he will like

793
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: you if you just kiss his ass, So like there's

794
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: a way to bypass his racism if you're just a

795
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: sick fan like, which I think is what he was

796
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: trying to say without like, you know, sort of rep

797
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: like having repulsive effect on his his base of like

798
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: Republican people who don't want to hear anyone in the

799
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: GP call him racist. So he's like, no, he's not,

800
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: but let me say this other ship that is kind

801
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: of fucked up about his ego but not full you know,

802
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: not a full throat of being like you think what

803
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: he was saying is basically yes, but I want to

804
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: keep getting the kickbacks I get as a senator, So no, yeah,

805
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: like he's a piece of ship. And then there was

806
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: an implicit threat against the media there at the end,

807
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: like you're working with the president who will destroy you

808
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 1: and like wants to destroy you, so stop saying things

809
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't like was essentially I think, like what when

810
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: he was like the street fight is over, and he's

811
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: the president. I thought he was saying that he doesn't

812
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: have to that street fight mentality is no longer needed.

813
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: Look only speaking outdated nineties video, and that's how I

814
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: was pretty impressed. Yeah, thank you. All right, we're gonna

815
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back. Yes,

816
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: we're back. And you know me, I'm all about a

817
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: big proponent of cannabis, adult use, medical use, and otherwise.

818
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: Uh and Prop sixty four in California did a great thing, right,

819
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: It created uh a legal adult use marijuana recreational. We

820
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: basically made recreational legal here. But another great part of Prop.

821
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: Sixty four is that it also allows anyone basically to

822
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: have their past marijuana related offenses crimes reduced or exponged completely,

823
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: which is wild because they're saying, like, look, weed is legal,

824
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: and I guess now that we know that you shouldn't

825
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: have to be completely punished for any kind of crimes

826
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: that you committed in regards to possession, especially because a

827
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: lot of people got like felony possession for weed and

828
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: can't get jobs, can't get loans and things like that.

829
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: So this is like a very great opportunity for for

830
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, society sort of change these kinds of things

831
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: and allow people to kind of start over a new

832
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: especially because like African Americans California were five times is

833
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: likely to get arrested for a marijuana felony the white offenders,

834
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: So these constraints disproportionately affected them. And now we're showing like, hey,

835
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: this is part of the new the new era. We

836
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: also believe that you shouldn't ruin your life because of

837
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: some you're you're holding some wheat. And how many people

838
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: are eligible for this? I think nearly like a million

839
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: people or something. It's pretty it's pretty, Uh, it's I

840
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: think it's roughly one million Californians are are eligible. According

841
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: to the Drug Policy Alliance, there is nothing more stupid

842
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: than the fact that weed was illegal, like alcohol is legal, Like,

843
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding me? I think we should ban alcohol.

844
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: I don't like anyone who drinks a lot. Obviously, you

845
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't ban anything. You should let people do whatever the

846
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: funk they want and funk up their lives and do

847
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: whatever deal with anxiety the way they want. But what

848
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: are we talking about here? Like if anything, like we

849
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: just increases the economy of like Amazon, downloads and like

850
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: like food delivery like it. It's just like it's just

851
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: good for the economy and who cares? Like, But also

852
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: I feel like just the idea that drugs are illegal

853
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: is just part of this puritanical myth that life has

854
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: to be this utopia um or people are always like

855
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: struggling to um They're struggling to accept that life is

856
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: not the utopia they wanted to be, whether it's like

857
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: socialist or religious, like Christian or something like that. It's

858
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: just so offensive and horrible that people won't talk about

859
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: what adulthood actually is, which is very painful. And we

860
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: need drugs be real, right, So yeah, I mean it's

861
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: good to know that you know that people are thinking

862
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: about this too, because it could have just as easily

863
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: been like hey, weed as legal and not a thought

864
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: about like, well, hey, if weed is legal, what about

865
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: these people that are in jail or like have completely

866
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: had their lives fucked over because they can't they have

867
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, were you ever convicted of a

868
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: felony in a job? Were like, yeah, it's so stupid.

869
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: It's like in Germany, like if people had felonies for

870
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: being Jewish. You know what, I mean, it's like, what

871
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: are we talking about here, Like, of course you should

872
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: expunge it. This should never have been a crime. We

873
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: made a mistake because we're scared of the truth. So

874
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: this is us. Yeah, it's it's the government or at

875
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: least the state of California making good on that. And

876
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: are there law firms that are going to or you know,

877
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: funds or charities that people can look into. I don't,

878
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. We we don't have that information, I

879
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: guess right now. But yeah, I'm I'm hoping somebody is

880
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: like dedicating themselves to just helping people get uh their

881
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: marijuana related offenses reduced or expunged, because yeah, well I

882
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: think that's sort of the next step is making sure

883
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: that you know, public defenders offices and legal a providers

884
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: can like actually talk tell people that's like, hey, just

885
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: so you know, like I'm looking through the records. I heard, Yes,

886
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: I got a felony like possession thing. You can actually

887
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: petition to get this changed. Yeah, like an innocence project

888
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: for people who got arrested for bullshit weed related offenses.

889
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: I think it's funny because when you go get your

890
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: weed card, all the doctors are like doctor four twenty

891
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and now there's gonna be a

892
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: lawyer four twenty, esquire. Just everything is a chance for

893
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: branding the Week Network offices of Green Bud and some

894
00:47:54,520 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: motherfucking damn real stoner over here. Seriously, guys, um all right?

895
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: And then last thing, there's this idea that I just

896
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: read about that keeps coming up in my mind and

897
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: is affecting how I think about things, and so I

898
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: wanted to just put it out there to our audience,

899
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: uh so they can think about it too. So there's

900
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: this book The Evolution of Beauty that I've been reading

901
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: that's about, you know, how beautiful things come to be

902
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: that way in nature, like how Uh Darwin has this

903
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: quote like every time I see the tail of a

904
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: male peacock, I get like sick to my stomach because

905
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't know because his initial theory of natural selection evolution,

906
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: uh didn't explain how the funk like giant feathers came

907
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: to be and like why there were like these giant

908
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: like beautifully patterned uh you know, fans on the back

909
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: of these birds. And uh. The general consensus for the past,

910
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: you know, fifty years, has been that it's like all

911
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: those things are somehow an indicator of like health. Uh,

912
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: so like some sort of inherent indicator of like, for instance,

913
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: the peacock's tail. So uh. The way people were thinking

914
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: about that was that because it's so big and heavy,

915
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: it was sort of like a built in handicap that

916
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: would prove to female birds that like, look how good

917
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: I am at survival. I can get by with this

918
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: huge tail, so therefore have sex with me. Uh. And

919
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: this ornithologist wrote this book that the New York Times

920
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: put on their list of like best nonfiction books at

921
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: the last yeah, uh, one of the best books of

922
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, where he kind of advances this theory

923
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: that it's all due to this thing called runaway selection,

924
00:49:53,200 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: where basically female birds have a preference. So let's say

925
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: one female bird has a preference for a larger tail feather. Uh,

926
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: that will become increasingly popular because she will have both uh,

927
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: male offspring with larger tail feathers and female offspring with

928
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: preferences for larger tail feathers because of you know, inherited traits.

929
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: So it's almost like this sort of self fulfilling like

930
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: feedback loop where something becomes popular just because it's popular essentially,

931
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: and you have this like runaway sort of feedback loop

932
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: that is the cause for all these crazy, uh you know,

933
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: seemingly significant aspects of animals and natural selection and like

934
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: that idea of just popularity, like runaway popularity for the

935
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: sake of popularity, and just like random preferences just becoming

936
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: these huge, outsized things keeps coming up in my mind,

937
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: like just looking at like, for instance, I talked last

938
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: week about how we overread elections and about how like

939
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: now we're viewing Trump as this like genius who like

940
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: overcame all the odds. But when you think about like

941
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: when he first came on the scene, like the contributing

942
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: factors for like him getting coverage at all was that,

943
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, people on the left like to laughing point

944
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: at him, and people on the right liked to see

945
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, the elitist media get mad about him, and

946
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: so you have like both of those things contributing, and

947
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: they're just kind of random. It's just that both groups

948
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: of people liked watching him for completely different reasons, and

949
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 1: so he got more viewers on CNN, and because CNN

950
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: saw that he got more viewers, they covered him more,

951
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: and you have this like self fulfilling thing that happened. Um.

952
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: That seems almost random, but that we I think, I

953
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I think there's a metaphor there for like

954
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: how we tend to give give a sort of inherent

955
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: logic to things that sometimes can just be caused by

956
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: you know, self fulfilling popularity. Well, something makes me think

957
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: about I don't know if this is related to what

958
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: you're thinking. Is I just think about Renaissance paintings, um,

959
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: and how the symbol for beauty used to be for

960
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: a woman as if they waited a lot because that

961
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: was a symbol of their wealth. That means they were

962
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: like healthy, but that's because they had access to all

963
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: the food they wanted, and then that eventually became Um.

964
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: Women are now just expected to be unreasonably thin and

965
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: make no sense. Um uh, look almost freakish to be

966
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: considered attractive because they have access to personal trainers and

967
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: LiPo suction. So I think we're attracted to Humans have

968
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: evolved to be attracted to wealth. Um. And that's the

969
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: way and where we're there's a lot of subconscious things

970
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: going on there with wealth. Because I think that's what's

971
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: going on with Trump it's like the reason people listen

972
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: to him is he's wealthy, and that's what we prize,

973
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: and we prize people who have gotten to the top

974
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: no matter what. And wealth is like what we think

975
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: something is how we decide something is beautiful and worth

976
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: investing time in. Right, So I think that would be like,

977
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: how like there's that assumes there's like this inherent logic

978
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: and some sort of inherent significance to why we like

979
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: have the preferences that we do. And I think the

980
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: way that this book is making me think about things

981
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: is what if it's not that? What if it's just that,

982
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, For instance, I've heard people in the fashion industry,

983
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: and this is sort of problematic, but they've I've heard

984
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: people in the fashion industry say that skinny models have

985
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: become popular because so many gay men are tastemakers in

986
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: the fashion industry, and the skinnier model the fewer like

987
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: sort of outwardly obvious female body traits they have. Um So, like,

988
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: what if it's like three different, completely random factors that

989
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 1: caused one skinny model to be popular, and then because

990
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: that one skinny model was popular, they just started like

991
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: casting skinnier models and like that sort of overtook things.

992
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: Like it is sort of the idea that I think

993
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: this book is suggesting, not necessarily that specific theory, but

994
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: just that sort of random, self fulfilling popularity. And like

995
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: I think a place I've seen this or I thought

996
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: of this as also in the the tide pod fed

997
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: that's going around where kids are eating tide pods and

998
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: adults out there eating that ship for reasons I haven't

999
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: really looked into, but I I have to think I

1000
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: think the Onion said it as a joke and then

1001
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: people actually started doing it. There you go, and that's

1002
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: just uh, I mean, that is natural selection though. Yeah,

1003
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: so I'm fine with that. The tide pod challenge, you know,

1004
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's like YouTube had to start taking

1005
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: him down because like, yeah, you shouldn't need fucking laundry

1006
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: detergent and ship And there's some weird at videos like

1007
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: dudes like just straight sipping like tied out of a

1008
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: cap and should I it's I don't get it right,

1009
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: But when I was born, they were like, you know,

1010
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: TV was the way that we got like all our entertainment.

1011
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: But now that there's you know, millions of people making

1012
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: videos every day on YouTube, Like, I feel like you

1013
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: are more open to these sort of random trends and

1014
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: stuff like um, and so you're going to see this effect.

1015
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: Maybe people be more sensitive to something as stupid as

1016
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: an Onion article that a bunch of people take seriously.

1017
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but I also think that's just been

1018
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: a human proclivity. Like orson Wells with were of the

1019
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: worlds on the radio, people killed themselves because of a joke,

1020
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: And I just think there's a lot of dumb people

1021
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: like like, you can't. It's tough to be in the

1022
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: public eye at all. Even having a podcast. You're affecting

1023
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: people's days when you're just someone saying something into a

1024
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 1: mic and it's like, oh wait, you're you were taking

1025
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: that seriously because I'm dumb and I don't even know

1026
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: if I really think that I just needed to fill

1027
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: air time. It's really scary. Yeah, I hope I don't

1028
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: get sued. Well, have you ever felt a tide pod

1029
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: because like, when you touch one, I want to bite this.

1030
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: It's like a gusher, I mean exactly, multi color. If

1031
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: they if they could make gushers like that, this is

1032
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: a huge opportunity for gushers to come come back in

1033
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: a huge way. Just make the tide pods salad Gusher,

1034
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: my man. Just use this technology like the dissolving whatever

1035
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: that's edible. Oh my god, gush pods all day. I

1036
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: want to take my money out a bitcoin put it

1037
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: into Gusher. Yeah. So yeah, now that you're on a

1038
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: TV show, my man, I got some investment opportunity. I'll

1039
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: do all as long as they're tide pod based. That's fine. Okay,

1040
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: good Jake, it has been wonderful having you here. Where

1041
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: can people find you? What would you like people to do? Um?

1042
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Weissman

1043
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: Jake W E I S M A N j A K.

1044
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: And please watch my show Corporate on Comedy Central Wednesday

1045
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: at ten pm. It's good. It's very good, very funny,

1046
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: and if you have worked a day in your life,

1047
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: you will recognize a lot of this stuff that you

1048
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: guys poke fun at Miles. Where can people find you?

1049
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: You can find me, you know, I'm trying to think

1050
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: of this, Jake to invest in my new Taye pod

1051
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: Gushers a local lab. But yeah, if you're just in

1052
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: social media, find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles

1053
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Speaker 1: of Ray. You can find me at Jack Underscore, Oh

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Speaker 1: Brian on Twitter. You can find us at daily Zeist

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. We are at the Daily zic Us on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page just search daily zeekeeis

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Speaker 1: and we have a website daily zekeeis dot com where

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Speaker 1: we post our episodes and put no foot links off

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Speaker 1: to all the sources that used for our things that

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Speaker 1: we talked about today. And Jake, you have a song

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Speaker 1: that you can tell our listeners about that we can

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Speaker 1: ride out onto that. Yes, I do. Is it gonna

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Speaker 1: be something very dark and difference. You know, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun. It's called My My My by Troy Savant

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Speaker 1: t R O y E s I V A N.

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Speaker 1: It's a really fun pop song. What do you like

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Speaker 1: about it? I like that I don't have to think

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Speaker 1: too much and it makes me feel good and it's

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Speaker 1: dumb and I just part of adult that is making

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Speaker 1: you like pop music. It's like candy that doesn't make

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Speaker 1: your teeth, you know. It's like I like it. It's

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Speaker 1: made for me to like enjoy it. It's like the

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Speaker 1: nodding hill of pops. That's perfect. All right, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for today. We will be back tomorrow because

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Speaker 1: it is a daily podcast. Talk to shine on this passion,

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Speaker 1: this passion justice swell anessy and lay sipping from up,

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Speaker 1: burning from love. They my baby, They stop punning from us,

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Speaker 1: running for us. Plast my baby, Oh my my mind.

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Speaker 1: I got every night, me by my eye