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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Browns on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I was still live on a OTA reporting Tuesday edition.

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Speaker 2: It is a Tuesday. I am merely Bo. That's the

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Speaker 2: great z. How you doing, buddy, I'm doing great, doing

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Speaker 2: very very well. Happy to be here thirteen days before

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Speaker 2: big changes are coming my way.

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Speaker 3: Big changes, Buddy. Well, you've lived these changes before. You

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Speaker 3: know it's coming.

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Speaker 2: I have, but you know not. At this point, there

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Speaker 2: was a much younger man, A much younger man shot

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Speaker 2: the arm. Good good, good Memorial Day. Where is your

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Speaker 2: head with this? It feels it's weird. I all morning

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Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out what day it was. Yeah, it's strange.

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Speaker 2: It felt like and yesterday. I don't know how. Like

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Speaker 2: in Chagrin, it's Sundays like Memorial Day, Okay, Like every

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Speaker 2: the parade is on Sunday. Okay. Everybody's big parties are

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, and then Monday's like a recovery day, which

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Speaker 2: is actually a nice way to do it, to do it,

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Speaker 2: but then it doesn't feel like you don't even know

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Speaker 2: what day it is.

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Speaker 3: That's my beef. And I think combining that experience with

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Speaker 3: the weather, which has just been implement and cool and

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Speaker 3: not what you normally get this time of year, that

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Speaker 3: it feels like fantastic. It feels just weird to me.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like we're this

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Speaker 3: is June.

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Speaker 2: Here's I don't know about you. I know that boots

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Speaker 2: you a sec because as anybody else gotten sick in

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Speaker 2: your home.

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Speaker 3: No, but the the allergy I think thing is I

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Speaker 3: don't know if or six or whatever, but like there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of that going arounds. We're both sick over

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Speaker 3: the weekend. Yeah, it's there's a lot of just like

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Speaker 3: not like flu, but just like like cold. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: going around.

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Speaker 2: So that's everywhere. It's it's almost June. Come on, it's enough.

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Speaker 2: It's enough. No time for sickness. We've done. No time

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Speaker 2: for sickness. So one quick little story. So Sunday was

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Speaker 2: the Brilo which produced oh this.

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Speaker 3: Is one of the great moments of all time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and this is still it's Sleepy Hollow.

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Speaker 2: So Sleepy Hollow I actually pulled up for next year

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Speaker 2: as Masters. That's probably when I'll wear it. I actually

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Speaker 2: got a very cool thing from Sleepy Hollow. That's like nice,

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Speaker 2: you'll see it. You'll see it next year, I've talked

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Speaker 2: to I might wear it before.

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Speaker 3: But my wife grew up in Brexville and it's really

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Speaker 3: remarkable to me. I mean, I'm it's really cool that

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Speaker 3: that course is a public course because it really very

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Speaker 3: easily could be a private course pretty easily. The layout,

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Speaker 3: there's no real houses on it. I mean, it's it feels.

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Speaker 2: Like they need they need a little injection of cash.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a it's a public track and they

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Speaker 3: it gets a ton of play. But the layout in

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Speaker 3: this location, it very easily could be a private.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. It was. It was a ton of fun.

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Speaker 2: We so the year that produced my great when I

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Speaker 2: had the walk off Eagle and the playoff, so we

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Speaker 2: teat off early. And then this year, you know, we

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Speaker 2: had the kids, we had you know her, I guess

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Speaker 2: our niece was in town. So it was a lot

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Speaker 2: of Fortunately, tee off at like ten thirty and if

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Speaker 2: it's a six hour or five or hour round. It's

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Speaker 2: also the whole day. Yeah, so it's not it's not

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Speaker 2: looked upon favorably, although it's a tremendous event. My Brielo,

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Speaker 2: if you're listening next year, let's just move it to Saturday.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Nobody does anything on Saturday. Sunday is

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Speaker 2: a family day in the holiday world, Saturday, and then

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Speaker 2: we can take all the time we want. Nobody will

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Speaker 2: have any issues with it. So that's my proposal number one.

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Speaker 2: Or let's tee off at eight am, or would potentially

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Speaker 2: a Friday night you could do a Friday evening round

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Speaker 2: I think yeah, or an afternoon three thirty four o'clock

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Speaker 2: tea times. Yeah, that would actually be pretty.

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Speaker 3: Fun into the holiday weekend and then you have a

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Speaker 3: good time Friday night and then.

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Speaker 2: It's, Brielo, one of the two Friday wevening or Saturday.

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Speaker 2: That's why we're those ours. Yeah exactly. So we were

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Speaker 2: out there. I got this new like putting thing. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it hits you on Instagram all the time,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much you putting thing? Yeah, Oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, it's this call that's like why golf, it's

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Speaker 2: this putting it's like a track and they have these

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Speaker 2: where you're trying to hit, it, hits one of the gates.

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Speaker 2: And so it gets you to groove your stroke. You'll say,

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Speaker 2: I was out there draining putts and I sold three

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Speaker 2: of them on the course that day. I should be

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Speaker 2: a spokesperson for this company because I'm going to be

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Speaker 2: selling a lot of those things.

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Speaker 3: So it's something you physically lay down, like yeah, practice, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so you like lay it down here, I'll show you.

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Speaker 2: So like you go to like the practice, I do it.

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Speaker 2: I just do it in my house because it's really

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Speaker 2: just grooving your It's just it's the putting thing. Why

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Speaker 2: golf is the company. Here, you pull it up right now, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I see it here. It is so yeah, so like

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Speaker 2: you have to hit the putt oh, or it won't

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Speaker 2: go through those gates at the beginning. So tell me

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Speaker 2: your stroke is like inside out if you're pushing it puts,

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Speaker 2: if you're pulling your puts, you can only hit it

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Speaker 2: good if you hit it that's straight. And so it

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Speaker 2: gets the point where if you can groove your stroke

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Speaker 2: to do that, guess what on the course. All you

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Speaker 2: have to do is get the line right and you're

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna hit it there. So like that, the

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Speaker 2: kids would love it because they could sit there all

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Speaker 2: day with it and if they can start hitting it

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Speaker 2: through when it's on number four at the front, like

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Speaker 2: it's base. It's kind of like that Acurim concept that

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Speaker 2: my dad used to have me shoot on. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: like only a pure swisshir go go through. Those things

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Speaker 2: were cool. They were with the little bing and that's nice.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, so it's a tremendous, tremendous thing. I loved it.

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Speaker 2: So we go out there and we're playing. We start off,

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Speaker 2: we're red hot baby on number one, let's go. I

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Speaker 2: made it a natural eagle, so we eagle one, make

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Speaker 2: a big par save on two. We birdy three, were

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Speaker 2: four and through four. We're feeling good. It's our best start. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're four and through four. We birdy three and birdy four,

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Speaker 2: so we're feeling really good. THEWN we kind of like

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Speaker 2: getting this. We're struggling. It was. It was not our

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Speaker 2: best team performance we've been We've been better than this

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Speaker 2: in the past, needless to say. We go on. We

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Speaker 2: end up at eight under, and we had like three

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Speaker 2: at eight. We end up in a tie with Brilo's team. Actually,

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Speaker 2: but as I mentioned before, I had a bunch of

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Speaker 2: pressures on me our B player. It's an ABC and

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Speaker 2: a D player. Yep. Our B player had a bunch

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Speaker 2: of pressure. So we like finish and were gone. Yep.

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Speaker 2: So the great Bowenes, who is our C player, ends

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Speaker 2: up having to play in the playoff and we asked

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Speaker 2: for hey, why don't we just do C player over

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Speaker 2: C player seven. They're like, well, yeah, your team left,

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Speaker 2: so that's on that. There's oh, no valid. So Bowens

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Speaker 2: had to play their top guy and he the first

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Speaker 2: hole is a very reachable part five, like I hit

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Speaker 2: in the morning, I hit driver eight iron and made

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Speaker 2: the putt for eagle. Yeah, so it's very it's a

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Speaker 2: very reachable part five. And there a guy was in

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Speaker 2: the bunker and two I guess hit it to like

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Speaker 2: couple of good shots but was at best was gonna

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Speaker 2: could have been for Bonenes, I told him, I said,

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Speaker 2: if you win this, this will be your golfing immortality.

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Speaker 2: That's the eight that's the nineteen eighty US Olympic team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like if he did it, if he did it,

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Speaker 3: if he won it, and then he brought him the championship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and his moment, that's a big moment. I'll give

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Speaker 2: the player who won it a lot of credit because

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Speaker 2: he's in a lose lose situation. There's no win for him.

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Speaker 2: Winning is still winning. But like it is so expected

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Speaker 2: that a loss would be catastrophic, so you never lived

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Speaker 2: down the loss. No, So I give a lot of

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Speaker 2: credit because they hit a bunker shot to gimme a range.

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Speaker 2: When you're in the bunker. Now you're thinking, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I could fat it and leave it any here. I

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Speaker 2: can scull it like the eighty yards of the green

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden bow and steals this thing. Like,

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Speaker 2: I give a lot of respect to that execution in

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Speaker 2: that moment.

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Speaker 3: Where do we feel about the idea of you guys

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Speaker 3: left and it's a versus C should would the right

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Speaker 2: It is I feel like the sporty thing to do

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Speaker 2: with because that would have been pretty fun, because when

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Speaker 2: would they ever get to play one. I would have

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Speaker 2: gone on.

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Speaker 3: I would have gone see, I think we just fixed

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Speaker 3: the broilo. Yeah, and that that needs a lot of fixing.

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Speaker 3: There's a little movements here.

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Speaker 2: Change the day Saturday, I got card Blanche. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: could be there until seven o'clock at night.

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Speaker 3: I would have been I think Friday night's pretty money.

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Speaker 3: That would be a lot of fun because then you

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Speaker 3: get a nice meal, you have cock and then maybe.

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Speaker 2: A cocktail, some cookout or something at the end of it,

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Speaker 2: a trophy ceremony on the Friday night.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, does this putting thing? Does

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Speaker 3: this solve? So we had we had a nine hole

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Speaker 3: match Bootsy and I versus Beamsy and and NBC, as

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Speaker 3: is customary, and we won pretty hand. The NBC's having

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Speaker 3: a tough time on his seconds. They're going all over

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Speaker 3: the place. It's good drives, but these second shots are

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Speaker 3: crazy and so but what I'm curious if this thing

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Speaker 3: will solve, is Bootsy, for the life of him, cannot

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Speaker 3: figure out the pace of a green So guy, my guy,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, buddy, I just need you to

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Speaker 3: get this sort of close. Just give me something sort

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Speaker 3: how far back I pull my club back, and I

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Speaker 3: want you to think about that, and then you that.

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Speaker 3: So they were rolling fast, so his he would he

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Speaker 3: will go. He would just boom, oh and I go

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Speaker 3: half that next hole, half it again, next hole.

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Speaker 2: Half.

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Speaker 3: Finally I was like, buddy, however hard you think you

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Speaker 3: need to just to hit this ball. I want you

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Speaker 3: to hit it a tenth of that hard a tenth

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Speaker 3: and he would still blow him back.

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Speaker 2: So what will help him is it's going to make

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Speaker 2: him hit a lot of putts and then eventually he's

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Speaker 2: going to be able to hit it through the game

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Speaker 2: and they'll be able to see the distance. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: got it. He actually played pretty well. So I set

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Speaker 2: up we have this. We actually have this this teak

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Speaker 3: Buddy, that's like July fourth, Yeah, your middle of the

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Speaker 2: No, I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: With that, twenty NFL teams to begin OTAs today, we

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow's will be open the media. Today's I saw them

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm guessing that the the salt that potentially

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Speaker 2: They got their rain. They're raining today. Yes, tomorrow is

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Speaker 3: It really depends on when you Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 2: And then every day after that, starting on the second,

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Speaker 3: fun for me.

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Speaker 2: Ever Field it's.

434
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Speaker 3: Not fun if you're if you're a hack, it's not fun.

435
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Speaker 3: And I am, and it's not. Yeah, it's no fun.

436
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Speaker 3: So this one is really cool and fun and so

437
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Speaker 3: but it's it's been fifteen years since I've played it,

438
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Speaker 3: so I don't even I know that it's still great.

439
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Speaker 3: But one of the cool things about it is you

440
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Speaker 3: if you don't know where you're going, you are going

441
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Speaker 3: to go right by it.

442
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Speaker 2: You will not. There's not a gate, nothing I want.

443
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Speaker 2: It used to be a post.

444
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 3: It was a fence post like it and and it

445
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 3: has the two eagles and that's it. And if you

446
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Speaker 3: don't know, it's there like in the old days before

447
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 3: like GPS or like you know the stuff that like

448
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 3: the self driving stuff. It's yeah, dude, it's great. Look

449
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Speaker 3: to get Oh yeah, yeah, you're gonna do well in there.

450
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Speaker 3: In fact, I may have you purchase a couple of

451
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Speaker 3: things on for my behalf because they're Yeah, it's quite

452
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: quite a strong logo, but if you don't know where

453
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: it is, like in the old days, like with a map.

454
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I been real hard map quest. I do remember

455
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 2: map quests. I would print out the step. That's all

456
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: you could do.

457
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 3: The first time I played there, that's I remember that

458
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 3: because we lived in Dublin at the time and we

459
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 3: were I kind of snaked back way to get there,

460
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 3: and I had it printed out and I was reading

461
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Speaker 3: it and it was like point however miles from this,

462
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 3: and then you're this and that, and I drove by

463
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Speaker 3: it and then I'm like, oh my god, I think

464
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Speaker 3: that was it. And then I had to turn around

465
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Speaker 3: and come back in. You won't have that problem, because

466
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Speaker 3: I'm guessing it's on.

467
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 2: You'll put it in the things to go. I'm excited though.

468
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be fun. That'll be very fun. Twenty

469
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 3: NFL teams began OTAs today. The Browns, of course, are

470
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Speaker 3: one of them. As I mentioned, volunteer been going for

471
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: a while. Yeah, yeah, do you know I saw that

472
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: we got my Mason Graham inked, if you're not signed

473
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: as a rookie, can you participate in these or no? Yes,

474
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: you can absolutely, Okay, I didn't know if there was

475
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 3: absolute rule, So all of our guys should.

476
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: Be out there. Yeah, the guy that's the only person

477
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: I think that is not. There's like injury, there's waivers,

478
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of stuff that protected as part of

479
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: the CBA. The only guy that I think that is

480
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: not is the Cincinnati guy. I think he's like refusing

481
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: to play until he signed his contract and he doesn't

482
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 2: like what there are.

483
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: It's slotted the d N from Cincinnati, Samar Stewart out

484
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 3: of Texas, A and M so what I wonder what

485
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 3: his what is? Who's representing him that thinks that they're

486
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 3: going to give him something different.

487
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Speaker 2: It feels like the Bengals end up with a lot

488
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: of weird stuff around money them and the Chargers. Yeah,

489
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 2: Chargers do that.

490
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: The Spanises do that too, or they're like, oh, we're

491
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: gonna dude, come on, what are we doing?

492
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: But the thing is it's slotted, right, this is what

493
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: you get, is it? Yeah? I think that's probably like

494
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 2: a negotiation on how the bonus part of it. It's paid,

495
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: as my guess is the only that's negotiable. But the totals,

496
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: the total is a total.

497
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Speaker 4: Man.

498
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Speaker 3: Yeah one, And I saw this. I saw I heard

499
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Speaker 3: Chefter talking about this this morning. I want to say

500
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: it was on ESPN Radio. Could probably have Young Brock

501
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: there find it, but the audio, but he was on

502
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: and he was talking about how the most interesting thing

503
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: in the NFL is our quarterback competition and it's the

504
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: one thing that everybody's going to be talking about now.

505
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: The one pushback I had for that is the first

506
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 3: quarterback he mentioned was Shador And of course, if you're

507
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: ESPN and you need talking points of football for the

508
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: next month, that's kind of low hanging fruit is to

509
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: just talk about Shadour every day. Because they did that

510
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: all the way through the process. They basically set the

511
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: agenda that they were going to talk about him throughout

512
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: the draft no matter what. And so I guess they'll

513
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: just follow suit this summer and continue to do that.

514
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Speaker 2: But the one.

515
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Speaker 3: Thing that I did agree with him on is we

516
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: just haven't had many instances like this where you truly

517
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: have a legitimate four quarterback competition, and you and I

518
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: have framed it you. I'll give you the full credits

519
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 3: you deserve. It's it's your framing. But the three young

520
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: guys are kind of all there, and then the fourth

521
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: being Joe, is the break glass guy, which we've said before.

522
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: That's that's the way I see it for sure. I

523
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: think what you're gonna see too is the Browns. Because

524
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: of this being so unique, I almost think you're going

525
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: to see like split we talked about earlier. Think you're

526
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 2: gonna see like split practices. I think you could have

527
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 2: seven on sevens going on. Either you're going to see

528
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: more sessions or you're going to see during seven on

529
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: seven periods, you're gonna se two of them going on simultaneously. Yeah,

530
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: you have to, and how they break that up will

531
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: be interesting. I think in one area could be Picket

532
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: and Flacco and then you keep the rookies together. Yeah,

533
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: or at some point you go with Picket in whichever

534
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: rookie seems to be pushing the most, and have Flaco

535
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 2: with the other rookie. But I think I think to

536
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: start you're gonna see I think it's gonna be I

537
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: think it almost out of necessity, out of your need

538
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: to maximize your time to have simultaneous seven on sevens

539
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: going on. You've got the room, You've got all the fields. Yeah,

540
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: you know, I think from a from a training camp standpoint,

541
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: or you know, when this stuff is open. If that's

542
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: the way they go, it's gonna be great for fans.

543
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: There's gonna be stuff on constantly.

544
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 3: Going on, Oh my gosh and camp yeah, oh be unbelievable. Kep,

545
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: did I hear you say you have the Schefter sound?

546
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 4: Yes, So I have two cuts if you guys want them.

547
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: I have the most interesting storyline, and then of course

548
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 4: Brown's trying to get a look at both qbs. We

549
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 4: can start right now with most interesting storyline. This is

550
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: courtesy of Adam Schefter on sportsman Like on ESPN Radio.

551
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: Well, I think the.

552
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Speaker 5: Most interesting storyline going into OTA's and it will be

553
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 5: a storyline throughout the summer, is the quarterback room of

554
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns. Is there a more interesting topic in

555
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 5: the National Football League than who's going to be the

556
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 5: starting quarterback in a division going up against Lamar Jackson

557
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 5: and Joe Burrow and maybe Aaron Rodgers.

558
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: Very good?

559
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: And then this is the one where he talks about

560
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: trying to get a look at the QBS getting a look. Okay,

561
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 3: go ahead, Bud.

562
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 5: It could be Shador Sanders, it could be Dylan Gabriel,

563
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 5: it could be Joe Flacco, it could be Kenny Pigott.

564
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 5: We don't think that Deshaun Watson will be record from

565
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 5: his second torn achilles injury, though he's been throwing the

566
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 5: football and trying to get back. So the Cleveland Browns

567
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 5: are no tas and I think this is a chance

568
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 5: for them to get a extended look at some of

569
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 5: these quarterbacks, see what they can do, see what they

570
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 5: think going into the summer break in training camp the summer.

571
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 5: But that's gonna be something that I think we're all

572
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 5: interested in all summer long. There'll be a lot of conversations.

573
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: keV, good job out of you on that. Yeah, so

574
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 3: there you go. I mean that's going to be fascinating

575
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: by the time we get to camp how they do

576
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: all of this. And I don't know, this might be

577
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 3: something where you think you got to be malleable and

578
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 3: see what's getting it done. Practice in, practice out, weekend,

579
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: week out.

580
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: It's exactly right. Look, I think they're going to go

581
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: into it from the standpoint that Kenny Pickett's going to

582
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: be the starter. That is, he is the leader in

583
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: the clubhouse, yep, and you either need someone to he

584
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: either needs the falter or somebody needs to usurp him

585
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: with consistently better play. And I think you'll know if

586
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 2: any of that is in the offing. This is not

587
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: gonna be something you're gonna know, I think at this

588
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 2: time of the year. But I think as we get

589
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: into training camp, if all of a sudden you see

590
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: one of the rookies start to get the first team reps,

591
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: then you'll know that, Okay, they want he's done well

592
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: enough in what he's been asked to do. Let's see

593
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: what it looks like now that we up the competition.

594
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: I also think you're gonna need to see a lot

595
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: of ones on ones like because that's the only way

596
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: that you're gonna get ready and right now in one

597
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: on ones situation, I don't mean one player on one player,

598
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: I mean starters on starters. This defense should be much

599
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: better than this offense. It just should be. Yeah, because really,

600
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: one of the things that you're gonna get out of

601
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: the offense that you can't really get in training camp

602
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: unless we do do some live periods is the running game, Like,

603
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: what does it really actually look like when you have

604
00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: to get quinchhn Jenkins to the ground. Yes, so it's

605
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: in a passing camp situation. Our defense should be better

606
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: than our offense. So if you have a quarterback that

607
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: actually can look good in spite of that, I think

608
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: that that could bode very very well for the Cleveland Browns.

609
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: And I think that's what you're looking for. It's gonna

610
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: be fun. This kind of tease up. We did a

611
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 2: little bit right there, but I think that this is

612
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: this is going to be you know, I've created a

613
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: some little things here for the OTA Preview, which we

614
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: should be able to We might not even need anything

615
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: else honestly for a while, but we'll get through it.

616
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 3: That's coming up next an OTA preview. What to look for.

617
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: We'll go through the depth chart, go through position battles.

618
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: Let you know what where our eyes will go as

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Speaker 3: we watch this stuff over the next couple of weeks,

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Speaker 3: all in advance of what should be an incredible training

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Speaker 3: best battle to watch? Any sleepers?

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Speaker 2: And who would you most want to have dinner drink with?

641
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Speaker 2: Which is great?

642
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Speaker 3: I love that? I love that very very good. Yeah yeah,

643
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: they had to be all right.

644
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this thing that we just got here.

645
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: Where did where did Where's this from? You're talking about

646
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: this depth the quarterback one is interesting, That's what I'm saying.

647
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: Where's this from? I got it off at ESPN. Okay, okay, okay,

648
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Speaker 2: so not Cleveland Browns. Yeah, that's that's That's all I

649
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: was really looking for.

650
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we begin at quarterback because that is the

651
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: topic of the day, certainly, and we begin with expected starter. Well,

652
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: as we have talked about many times over the last

653
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: couple of months, we have what we believe to be

654
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: is I couldn't think of another example.

655
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: I know you haven't.

656
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: Either a true four person quarterback race, probably really a

657
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: three and a half quarterback person race, but nevertheless, four

658
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: guys who are all capable, two rookies among them.

659
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when I look at this, I think Kenny Pickett,

660
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: you know, if we're going, you know, item by item,

661
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: I think very excited delivers delivery.

662
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: It was like, I think he was so proud that

663
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 3: it looked like a great deal of that. All we

664
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: did was look up and it was like, you'll see

665
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: what I'm doing here. I couldn't make out exactly what

666
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: it was, couldn't tell if.

667
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: It was a doughnut. It was some type of a

668
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: pastry arrangement of some sort, but not the fruit that

669
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: you you know, that was some sort of a I

670
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: didn't see a manicured pineapple.

671
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: Movement now like it looked like a Yeah, it looked

672
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: very very proud.

673
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 2: Oh you've wanting more? Yeah, big smile. Really like how

674
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: about that? Enjoy those that'd be great? Yeah. Strutting really,

675
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: I mean you.

676
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: Could really striding out quite the delivery.

677
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, very good. Acid washes back.

678
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: Apparently I don't buy into any of that. It's like

679
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: when they brought when the like the women would wear

680
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: like that, those high waisted, wide leg pant things that

681
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: everybody tried to wear, and I think they still are.

682
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: Just stop stop, by the way. One of the things

683
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: is I sent rock about a great many things for

684
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: topics for the week. Yeah, one of them was and

685
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: I twenty to think about. We'll get well, this is

686
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: obviously important stuff for it we're going to do now,

687
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: but just to think in the back of your head.

688
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: Has there ever been a period since we've been alive,

689
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: and I'll even say, go in twenty years before we

690
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: were born, so starting in the fifties where there has

691
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 2: been a twenty year period where if you were to

692
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: just throw something on television and I found this on

693
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: the on X that you wouldn't know where it's from,

694
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: And just the thought is ambiguity and era. Look or

695
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: you watch people in two thousand and five and twenty

696
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: twenty five, like the people are dressing pretty much the same.

697
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: It looks pretty much same. Oh no, no, every other decade.

698
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: But I think about from the six fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,

699
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden, we've just like, it's like,

700
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: this is what we are, right. So it was like

701
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: the point was if you thought about what you showed

702
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: somebody who was born in the eighties and they're wearing

703
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: neon and the spanis and yeah, primped out hair, and

704
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: then you show them like hippies from the sixties, it's

705
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: like a different world totally. And then the seventies is

706
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: a different rule as well. And then but now we've

707
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: kind of like settled into this is what we look like,

708
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: this is what hairstyles are, this is what.

709
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: Closed off right. There really isn't any what do we

710
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: attribute that to.

711
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: I know, maybe we just finally have found the sweet

712
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: spot of ath leisure. I think ath leisure and the

713
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: I think you're talking part of it but it's even

714
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: so buttoned up, and then the sixties is crazy, and

715
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: then the seventies is the bell bottoms and the yeah yeah, yeah,

716
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: you can identify styles have for you've never gone twenty

717
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: years without really changing.

718
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: I wonder if social media played a role in that,

719
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: like just kind of group thinking it maybe versus like.

720
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: Maybe that's that's a little fast. Okay, all right, so

721
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: quarterback expected starter?

722
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: Uh?

723
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: In my opinion is Kenny Pickett.

724
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't, honestly, and

725
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: take one of the kids to really yep or something

726
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: not to go, well.

727
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: How many this is a good one? I I I.

728
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: Think we could before how many from this position group

729
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: make the fifty three?

730
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: I think three? Okay?

731
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 3: Would you would you bend with me a little bit

732
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 3: and say fourth?

733
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: I think I think it's I think it's possible. My

734
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: guess is at that point you're gonna if the three

735
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: young guys are looking good and you're good to go.

736
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: I think at that point you're trying to trade Flaco

737
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: somewhere where he can play and that he can help somebody,

738
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, be the mentor to Tyler. She feels like

739
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: a very natural mentor type to Tyler Shuck in terms

740
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: of size, what their skill sets would be in New Orleans.

741
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: So I think that is So that's why I think

742
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: you ultimately end up at three.

743
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: Okay, best battle to watch all of it?

744
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's pretty easy. It's all all of it,

745
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: the three young guys, all of it, the three young guys. Yeah. Yeah,

746
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: let's Flaco in the sense that we know what flacoes

747
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 2: and he's great. Yeah, I love him. But I think, yeah,

748
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: that's that's what I think.

749
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: Number four, any sleepers? Is it possible that Pickets the sleeper?

750
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: I feel like we, you and I have been talking

751
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 3: about it for two weeks, but I feel like a

752
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: lot of people on the beat haven't been talking about it,

753
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: and I feel like a lot of other people on

754
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: sports talk radio aren't fans aren't. But I feel like

755
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: we have been for two months.

756
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: Like it's hard to be both the favorite and the sleeper.

757
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: But I think people are having a hard time getting

758
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: their head around the fact that he is the favorite.

759
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: They really are, Yeah, but he is.

760
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, And we've been talking about it for a

761
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: long time. Who would you most want to have dinner

762
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: drink with?

763
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: Flacco? That's easy.

764
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: That's you and I could have been We could be

765
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: dads for the two young ones. Damn near picket too

766
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: if we would have got started, Well, no, picket too.

767
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: For we could have Flacco though, I mean, that's that

768
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: just I understand. But we could have whereas Flacco, that's

769
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: pure joy. I mean, that's a good temporary.

770
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: He's a peer, that's right.

771
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we have a great time at O with him.

772
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: I give that the I'm gonna give check mark to

773
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: the day. I like FLACKO on that.

774
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: All right, running back room Buddy, expected starter, the participants.

775
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: I mean, do we have to go through everybody or

776
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: should we assume.

777
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: That we know the participants? I think we should. Let's

778
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: go take a look at the room as it is

779
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: right now. You've got Quinshawn Judkins, Jerome Ford, Dylan Samson,

780
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: Pierre Strong, and Amani Marshall expected starter. So this is

781
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: brack in the future. So they don't do depth charts

782
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: on Clean Browns dot Com. Yet that happens kind of

783
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: like as you get into the season, because it's when

784
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: they put out in the media guides. So the most

785
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: comprehensive one, I think at this point in the year

786
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: is our lads. Yeah, and that our lads also has

787
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: good color coded so you know, like who's who's a rookie,

788
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: who's an undrafted free agent? Who was you know, signed

789
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: in free agency this year? Who was traded for you?

790
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: You kind of get all that.

791
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: Stuff honestly, that they're both and for the kit just

792
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: public service and we don't have any I don't know

793
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: the folks who run our Lads or anything, but like

794
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: Dan Shanka is that the great Dan Shanka?

795
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: Shanka, Oh, he's unbelievable. So he does college and pro yes, Shaka,

796
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: Oh he's unbelievable. He's a stut. Yeah, he's stuck. So

797
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: there you go. That's there's your look there. Yeah, expected

798
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 2: starter all right, So my expected starter here is quin

799
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: Shawn Judkins. However, I really think that this will be

800
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: a three running back committee with Quinjhon Judkins, Dylan Samson,

801
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: and Jerome Ford. And I think Ford will be your

802
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: third down back until he is unseated. If he is

803
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: unseated by anybody.

804
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 3: I think about I mean, I think and a lot

805
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: of people obviously out there listening that, remember, I mean

806
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 3: you think about what Ohio State did last year with

807
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: Quin Shawn and Trevion Like think that.

808
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: Two A. I mean you have three really talented running backs.

809
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 2: I said three. I mean you have three studs. Yeah,

810
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: you're right.

811
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: So you can kind of split that up and spread

812
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: those carries around a little bit. How many from this

813
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: position group will make the fifty three?

814
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: I think three. I think three. I think Pierre strong

815
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: Is is really fighting for his his life here because

816
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: they may want to. And the reason that I say three,

817
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: it could really be four. So Troy Harston is the

818
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: fullback that we brought in, right, and if we're going

819
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: back to Kevin stuff, right, that means you could be

820
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: going back to a real fullback. Harrison was in Houston.

821
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: It could be. It could be. I mean, now again

822
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: he was just he was on our practice futures contract.

823
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: We'll see, but he is. That's a true fullback for

824
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: you right there. Five eleven, two forty five. And you

825
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: think about you know, in Minnesota, he always had a C. J.

826
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: Hamm when he first came here. We brought an Andy Janovich. Yep,

827
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: so we had a fullback when we were running Kevin's offense. Yeah,

828
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: they always that's somebody that I would put a star

829
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: by what he we didn't count him as a running back.

830
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: He's a fullback. But yes, best battle to watch, I

831
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: think really the only what I would call battle per

832
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: se is just kind of how it all shakes out,

833
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: how the carries are divvied up, and then like, can

834
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: anybody can the young guys, either of them challenge to

835
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: be you know, on the field on third downs?

836
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And to me, I think about I mean, I

837
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: think it's all going to be spread out and game

838
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: by game who gets more carries. That's kind of the

839
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: way it feels right now. But can Quid Shawn Judkins separate?

840
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: Not that he needs to because they're all going to

841
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: get but like you draft somebody where he was drafted,

842
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: the expectation is you're a dude, and we believe he's

843
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: a dude, and we think it's going to show up

844
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: that way. So does he look that way right away?

845
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: And how quick does he pick up all the other

846
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: things that come with this offense? Because I mean, if

847
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: we have success, I think it's really going to have

848
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: to come out of this room this year. All right,

849
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: Any sleepers pretty straightforward, right?

850
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: I think he's pretty straightforward. The guy that I would

851
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: say is a sleeper is like is Dylan Samson, Like

852
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: what can man sec offensive player of the year, but

853
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: how can he kind of emerge? Who would you most

854
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: want to have a dinner drink with in this room?

855
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: I really enjoy talking to Judkins, well every time I've

856
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: interviewed him, so he's pure joyd that would be the

857
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: one I would say.

858
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: He's so much fun. Yeah, he has got a smile

859
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: on his face almost always.

860
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: Yep.

861
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: And just personally, it would be fun to hear kind

862
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: of a behind the scenes on what happened after the

863
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: Michigan loss for Ohio State. Now they somehow got that

864
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: thing back on the tracks.

865
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: Ye would be interesting.

866
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 3: All right, we're in the receiver room now, my friend.

867
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: In terms of who is in that room, there are

868
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 3: quite a few. Jerry Judy obviously leads it. Cedric Tillman

869
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 3: is there, Jamari Thrash is there, David Bell, Michael Wood,

870
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: DeAndre Carter is in this room as well. Deontay Johnson

871
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: comes over into this room, Caden Davis. There's a bunch

872
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 3: of guys in this room. This is the one spot

873
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: where and they did add Deontay Johnson and you take

874
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: a flyer on that. I was surprised we didn't address

875
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: it more in draft, and maybe we do address it

876
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: at some point this.

877
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: Summer a little bit more. YEA.

878
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: Either that or Cedric Tillman is gonna have to come

879
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: along in a big, big way.

880
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people are gonna have to come

881
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: along in a big, big way. You either need Deontay

882
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: Johnson to get back to being what he was now.

883
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna play a heck of a lot

884
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: more twelve personnel. We're not gonna be as three wide

885
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: receiver heavy, but you need Deontay Johnson to go back

886
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: to being that, you know, Pro Bowld level receiver that

887
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: he was and separator. You need Jamari Thrash, who I

888
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: think they have a lot of belief in, to maybe

889
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 2: take a big step forward here in his second season.

890
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: I think that would be. That's another one. Yeah, this

891
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: is not This is not the strongest room on the

892
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 2: word roster, and it's a very important, important room.

893
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy's incredible and it was an incredible career renaissance

894
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 3: for him. Yes last year, yep, But this is probably

895
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: this is among the weaker units in the league, top

896
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: to bottom.

897
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 2: I think I think that's probably fair based on what's

898
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: been done on the field.

899
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, to say that potentially you can't get there because

900
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: you loved when you drafted Cedric Tillman. I mean, this

901
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 3: is what you drafted him to be, of course, but

902
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: it were two years in and so now it's time

903
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: to go.

904
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: Well, you saw it last year and then unfortunately it

905
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: was you know, the concussion that knocked him out. But

906
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: Cedric Tillman last year was very much looking like the

907
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: star that you drafted him to be. You go back

908
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: into his into his game logs from last season and

909
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: it coincides obviously with Jamis becoming the quarterback. But he

910
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: went eight for eighty one, seven for ninety nine and

911
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: two touchdowns six for seventy five and a touchdown three

912
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 2: for forty seven against Pittsburgh and then got knocked out

913
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: of that against New Orleans. I'm sorry then got knocked

914
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: out of the Pittsburgh game. But he was on a

915
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: path there where he was looking pretty darn good. I mean,

916
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: in his last four full games, he caught twenty four

917
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: passes and average you know, eighty yards a game. Yeah,

918
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: with three us doing it. Yeah. Yeah, so that's what

919
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: you're that's what you're looking for. But it is a

920
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: monster year for him. You need, whether it's Jamari Thrash,

921
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: whether it's Deontay Johnson, one of these young guys, Luke

922
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: Floria who had was you know, the rookie Mini Caamp Darling.

923
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 2: You need somebody to really emerge as a third receiver. Yep, yep,

924
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: big Ley. Now DeAndre Carter is an interesting one because

925
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: we're talking about him as a returner only, but he

926
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: is somebody that has been at least productive in other places.

927
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: Now it's been a few years, but when he was

928
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: with the Chargers in twenty two, he had five hundred

929
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: and thirty eight yards receiving. Yeah, I'm not expecting that

930
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: because it's been so much less than that every other year.

931
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: But you know, you need you need probably two guys

932
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: to emerge as realistic threats because right now you're an

933
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: injury to Jerry Judy away from being terrified. I still think,

934
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 2: and we've heard rumors that are they like a lobby.

935
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: Who doesn't like a lobby? Of course you like a lobby.

936
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: I don't see why the Saints will trade him, But

937
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: if we're even really good with wide receiver trades, man

938
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: I would like Alec Pierce is the guy from Indy.

939
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: I liked him since he was at Cincinnati. I would

940
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: be looking around. Green Bay has got too many receivers,

941
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: like does does Wicks? They trained him or they traded

942
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: Romeo Dubbs. Are they looking to move somebody? Do you

943
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: take a gamble on Christian Watson who he liked in

944
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: the draft process. He hasn't been able to sell healthy,

945
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: but when he can run, yeah, well he is healthy.

946
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: There needs to be I think there needs to be

947
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: still an influx of talent here. And the weird thing

948
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: about it is, you know, right now, I think you're

949
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: looking at maybe five Judy, Tillman, Carter feel like the

950
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: only ones that are locks to me. Yeah, So then

951
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: now you're talking about this thrash emerge does David Bell?

952
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: You know, emerge Deontay john If Deontay.

953
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: Johnsonta Johnson is that he's the sleeper if he wants

954
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: to be. If you can be a sleeper having accomplished

955
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: what he has, he's the sleeper, and he's the lottery ticket. Honestly,

956
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: he's the get out of jail free card.

957
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: Well, then for him, the reality of the situation is,

958
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: if this isn't good, this might be the end of

959
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: the road for him in the National Football League. That's

960
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: just the reality of the situation.

961
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: Who would you want to have a cocktail with in

962
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 3: this group? I think Deontay would be interesting, just because

963
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: I don't know him much.

964
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: But I would say Judy. I love Judy. Yeah, I

965
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: was gonna say Deonta's Well. I just want to be like,

966
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: all right, where's your Where are we at? Where are

967
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: we at? What are we What are we here to do? Yeah?

968
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: What are we here to do? I think that's a

969
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: very good one. Tight end room. What did you settle on?

970
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 2: You settle on three or four receivers? I got five

971
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: or five? I mean it's got to be five ultimately.

972
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, tight end room. We go expected starter.

973
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: That's easy.

974
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: It's chief.

975
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: We put a big emphasis on this with the drafting

976
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: of Harold Fann and Junior as well. Blake Whiteheart is

977
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: in this room at tight end as well, and so

978
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: this this will be a return to this position, being

979
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: an emphasis from a year ago where this kind of

980
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: fell off a little bit. This will go back to

981
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: what it was with Stefanski the first time around.

982
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're going to see a lot of

983
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: Nijoku and Fannon on the field together, you know, for me,

984
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: the battle of watches. Here's the other thing to think about, Fan,

985
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: it could really kind of be your third receiver. Yeah,

986
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: he could be a big slot for you. So sure

987
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: if that how this all comes together. To me, he

988
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: is very important to what this offense can truly be,

989
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: and he could actually help alleviate some of the things

990
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: that are wrong right now in the receiver room if

991
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: he can be very very good. I think I think

992
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: you end up keeping three. The question becomes can you

993
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: have three and Hairston? You know, I don't know that. So,

994
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: like right now, if we had three quarterbacks, three running backs,

995
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 2: five receivers, that's eleven. You're at fourteen, fourteen with tight ends,

996
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: fifteen with Hairston, right, Yeah, you're fourteen with three quarterbacks,

997
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: not four. Yeah, and you're so that's that's where it

998
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: starts get interesting because you can only have nine on

999
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: the O line. You can't. You can't be twenty five.

1000
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: You're in need at least twenty six on D yep.

1001
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what's kind of tricky about that. Yeah, sleeper, No,

1002
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: it's pretty straightforward.

1003
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: At tight end. Most like to have dinner with I'd

1004
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: like to know Harrold Fann a little bit more. I

1005
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 2: feel like we've Chief a lot. I know him pretty

1006
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: well for sure. Yeah. Chief is a very fun I

1007
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 2: feel like we could go to a very fun something.

1008
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: I'd like to have it. Can we have been chef

1009
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: in Miami? I don't know that I could handle it?

1010
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: Yes you could, Yes you did, old young me. Now

1011
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 2: you're old me back in the mix. What do they say?

1012
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: You only need to be as great once as you

1013
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: ever were. You don't need to be great every time now.

1014
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 3: Back when I was banging, I could have done it,

1015
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: for sure, But that's been a long time.

1016
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: Now you could do it too, Yeah, trust me, trust me,

1017
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: you can always rise to the just one time, just

1018
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 2: a one time. Always rise the offensive line.

1019
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 3: We'll finish out on the offensive line.

1020
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: So starters, starters, Dewan Jones, Joel Buttonio, Ethan Posok, White, Teller,

1021
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: Jack Conklin. Yep, boy, there's you know.

1022
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: You think about how highly they thought of Luke Whipler

1023
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: before the injury.

1024
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 2: Yep, and now he's back.

1025
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zack Sinner, obviously they drafted, he struggled, but he's

1026
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 3: in the mix here as well. You've got Tavin Jenkins,

1027
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: Lorenzo Thompson, Cornelius Lucas.

1028
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 2: I think you got those four or nine, and then

1029
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: it's just a matter of Kenna, Javian Cohen, who they

1030
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: were very excited about the Guard out of Miami. Can

1031
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: we get any of these tackles, we get any young

1032
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: tackle to show us anything, show me something, baby, any

1033
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: incredible opportunity. Lorenzo Thompson, Julian Pearl, Medica, Jason Ivy. Can

1034
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: we get any of them to show us something that

1035
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: gives us some comfort that you know they can be

1036
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: a part of what we're able to do. That's it.

1037
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 2: That's that's really the most critical thing.

1038
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: And that's probably the battle to watch as well, because

1039
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: there really isn't any battle on the front lines. Those

1040
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 3: are all starters entrenched. It's just going to be those

1041
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: backup tackles. Who's who's going to be have that and

1042
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: potentially try to be a tackle of the future.

1043
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: Any sleepers you like here? I mentioned Cohen, I know

1044
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: that they liked him a lot. I still think Luke

1045
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: Whippler's a little bit of a sleeper. The guy that

1046
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: you really need, you need Zach Zinter to take a

1047
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 2: big step forward. You need zach Zenter to become an

1048
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: heir apparent that you know, we had jol In here.

1049
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: This is was a big decision to come back this year. Yep.

1050
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: So he is not going to be here forever. So

1051
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: you need to find an opportunity. You need to find

1052
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: zac Zenter ready to move up in that role. Need

1053
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: some future planning to start to come to fruition. This

1054
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: line is like in reality, there's not a lot of

1055
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 2: future planning right here with this line.

1056
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: It's also something that I was surprised in the draft,

1057
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: you know, a tackle. Yeah that it wasn't but.

1058
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: That's why we talked about. I think you go back

1059
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: to it and you say, okay, what is could be

1060
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: the biggest thing for this team is to have Picket,

1061
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: Gabriel or Sanders give you the confidence that they can

1062
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: be your quarterback long term by going in a next draft,

1063
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 2: because then you could draft a tackle and a receiver.

1064
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: You could draft a tackle and Caleb Downs can all

1065
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 2: of a sudden address two major things with probably top

1066
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: half of the first yep pick, you know, top half

1067
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: of the first round.

1068
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah no, that's that's that's the that's the best case scenario.

1069
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: Here on this dinner or drinks. I'm gonna tell you something.

1070
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: You can do a lot worse. In fact, I think

1071
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 3: it would be an incredible conversation too, if we if

1072
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: we call in the bullpen and we bring haff In

1073
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: and have a meal with Hoff and Botonio.

1074
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, isn't that it?

1075
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: Hoffs and the Galopagos. I know, so he goes Turkey

1076
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: hunt club to Galopogos.

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00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I saw him pulling in a Marlin.

1078
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for him, but I think

1079
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: under a truth serum, it might be wishing he was

1080
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: still a turkey can well.

1081
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 3: I think the Galapagos is a choice.

1082
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: It's pretty incredible.

1083
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: Right, but also like that's a lot going on.

1084
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: There's a lot of Darwinian on display. It's tough to

1085
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: get there. Two days of travel. They're having a great time.

1086
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: It's ultra remote every way everybody had to.

1087
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 3: I've known two people in my life who've gone to

1088
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: Galopagos before he saw Hoff was there, and both said incredible,

1089
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 3: But oh baby, it's a long ways and it's remote.

1090
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you check that off. You check that off

1091
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: the list. You're gonna see things that you will only

1092
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: see there. It's incredible. Where do you fly through? Don't

1093
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: you have to go like wait, multiple flights?

1094
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 3: I mean it's got to be like from here you

1095
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: would probably go I assume.

1096
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 2: You'd go to somewhere to Latin America right right.

1097
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: Like Denver to like someplace in because isn't it off

1098
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 3: it's off the west coast of South of Africa, South.

1099
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 2: America, Ecuador where it's off.

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00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: Of Okay, so then you're gonna so you have to

1101
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 3: go to Ecuador from like Dallas. From here, from like Dallas,

1102
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: are probably go and you to maybe to Atlanta would

1103
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 3: be you could do it.

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00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: You probably get down there from somewhere in Mexico. You

1105
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: just hit that right Xero City, Yeah, or you're in Quito.

1106
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: Is that that's an Ecuador. It's all over now what

1107
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: I the way that I if we were doing it. Yeah,

1108
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fly into Columbia. Oh baby, I'll do a

1109
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 2: few days in Columbia, then we'll head to the Glopagos.

1110
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 2: Can you imagine you and I thriving down there? They could? Yeah,

1111
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: Like we have the ton that we want to require

1112
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: a lot for me to imagine it. Yeah, this is

1113
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: I mean he's in as nature a place as you

1114
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: can be. It's pretty remarkable, Yes, it really is. That's

1115
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: pretty remark all right, we'll.

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00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,440
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Speaker 3: our positional preview of OTAs and we are now on

1130
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball, doctor Z and quite frankly,

1131
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 3: lots of strength here. This should be a really a

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00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 3: top five unit in the league.

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00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: Honestly. Yeah, So the way we ended up doing it

1134
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: there is we went three quarterbacks, four running backs inclusive

1135
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: of a fullback, five receivers, three tight ends, and nine

1136
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: on the line, which put us at twenty four on

1137
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: the offensive side, So we have twenty six players to

1138
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: play with here. On the defensive side of the ball,

1139
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: we'll start with Let's start with the defensive ends. Let's

1140
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: do it, because I think that's the room that you

1141
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: really need to to start with. This room right now

1142
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: has many more NFL players in it than there is

1143
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: room for. It's an incredibly talented, deep room. I mean,

1144
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: it's so a bunch of guys who can play, and

1145
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: a lot of investment in this room obviously significantly. So

1146
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: you know, how this shakes out, I think is going

1147
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: to be very fascinating. So starters I think are Miles

1148
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: Garrett and I think Isaah Maguire. I think that he

1149
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 2: would be the favorite to start. You got Alex Wright

1150
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: coming off of injury. Obo has always kind of been

1151
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: more of a sub package guy. And then you know,

1152
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: you brought in new guys Trianschoyinka and Julian o'quara. So

1153
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: the way that I look at it, and by the way,

1154
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: Cam Thomas played really well for you last year and

1155
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 2: was a former third round pick. And I thought Ellerson

1156
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: Smith played well for you last year. Keith Grise, you

1157
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 2: got Ohvo, you got like eight, you got eight guys. Yeah,

1158
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: Cam Thomas last year, who played play very well for

1159
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: you in five games, had a sack, eleven tackles, four

1160
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: tackles for a loss. He played well for you. And

1161
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: like I said, I think pretty sure it's a former

1162
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: third round pick. Yea, he was a former third Elerson

1163
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 2: Smith's a former fourth round pick. I want to save

1164
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: the Giants if I have that right, I'll tell you

1165
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: in one second if I do or not. But feels right.

1166
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: The fourth round of the Giants, yep in twenty twenty one.

1167
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: So this is you know you've got too many guys.

1168
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 2: My guess is you're gonna end up with five. Garrett

1169
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: and McGuire, I think are your are your starters, And

1170
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna end up with five defensive ends.

1171
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: And so that means somebody who's been pretty good in

1172
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: this league is going to get cut.

1173
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: So is there any possibility of a trade with any

1174
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: of these guys?

1175
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: For sure? For sure? I mean I think I think

1176
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: Garrett McGuire, Alex Wright's coming back in the final year

1177
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: of his rookie deal, and alex Wright had shown a

1178
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: lot of promise before that injury, you know, derailed him

1179
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: last year. Like we don't win. Alex Wright made the

1180
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: play that basically helped seal the game or help us

1181
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: win the game against the Jags and one of our

1182
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: few wins last year. But he only got to play

1183
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: in four games. Prior to that, he had not and

1184
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: he was shown a lot of promise his second year.

1185
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: Five sacks I think five sacks in the last or

1186
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: four sacks in the last four games really came on strong.

1187
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: So you like him, McGuire, I thought looked very very

1188
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: good for you last season as well. Tryanchoy Inca is

1189
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: a former first round pick. He's a former first round

1190
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: pick of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who has fifteen you know,

1191
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: thirty second overall, but it's still a first round pick.

1192
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: Fifteen career sacks, twenty one tackles for loss. First three

1193
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: years in the league at least four sacks, four or

1194
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: four or five last year only two. But a very

1195
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: talented guy. Yeah, so you've got him. You've got Obo,

1196
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: who has been here now this will his third season here.

1197
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: Locker room favorite. He's got seventeen career sacks. He had

1198
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: his first year here four and a half sacks, last

1199
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: year three seven and a half in his two years here,

1200
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: the most he's had in any two year stretch. And

1201
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: he's been a very solid player for the Cleveland Browns.

1202
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: And then he brought in Julian o'quara, who has ten

1203
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: career sacks and had a year where he had really

1204
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: good He was a former third round pick in twenty

1205
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: twenty when he had five sacks and twenty twenty one

1206
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,959
Speaker 2: for the Detroit Lions. So there's a lot of talent

1207
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: here and this is kind of to me. And then

1208
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: we mentioned Cam Thomas and Older Smith. You have eight

1209
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: guys who are NFL quality and you're for five spots.

1210
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, this could be a position where you maybe

1211
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: are able to make a trade. I think the battle

1212
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: between Maguire right and Truchoyinka obo Oquara really what's the

1213
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: rotation and who's the who's the number two, Who's who's

1214
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: you know, the starter opposite Miles more often than not.

1215
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: But this is it's it's fun. It's a good room.

1216
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: It's a fun room, it's a competitive room, and I

1217
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: really like the way Isaiah McGuire emerged last year. I'm

1218
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: a big Isaam McGuire fan, and I think that, you know,

1219
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: going into his third year, you got a chance for

1220
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: somebody who plays that big end role very well. He's

1221
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: very good against the run, He's developing as a pass rusher.

1222
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: He has a knack for getting the ball out. Three

1223
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: force fumbles a year ago. So I like it. But

1224
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talent there. They think Alex Wright

1225
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: is a very talented guy, and he's still very young.

1226
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: Pretty sure Alex Right is still when we drafted him.

1227
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: I think he may have been twenty one. I think

1228
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: he's still pretty young. So McGuire is twenty turning twenty

1229
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: four in July, and Alex Wright doesn't turn is twenty

1230
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: five in September. So young, Yeah, relatively young players for

1231
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: having been in the league.

1232
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: This is the front, the d NS, and then obviously

1233
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: investment at Detach, which we're gonna get to next. The

1234
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 3: defense is the strength of this football team, and the

1235
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: front better be the strength of defense because it's it's

1236
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 3: an incredible amount of investment. You know, Miles is here

1237
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 3: now long term, that's locked in, and and so now

1238
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 3: he just chases down Canton. Is what his job is

1239
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: now going forward and to be a real leader of

1240
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: this defense in the do you want to, oh, drink

1241
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: dinner on the d line?

1242
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: D end. I really love Isaiah Maguire. I'd be fascinating.

1243
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: I've heard it. He's he's one of those guys he's

1244
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: going to have this Year's transformed his body because he

1245
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: was he was never able to really be cut as

1246
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: he was still kind of growing. Yeah, he is a

1247
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: young guy and looks great this year. I like him.

1248
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: I've seen miles of miles. Would go to a fantastic miles. Ye, Isaiah.

1249
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 3: The cool thing about him is I remember him coming

1250
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: in here as a young player, but I feel like

1251
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: we haven't seen him in a while.

1252
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I remember when he left, thinking like, it's

1253
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: cool kid. I like that dude. Yeah, you know so, yeah,

1254
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: lots to like. That's yeah, all right, defensive tackle.

1255
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what if this goes according to plan

1256
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: and you draft Mason Graham five overall and you have

1257
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: Mike Hall, who is a top ten talent starting, Yeah,

1258
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 3: this should be the strength those two defensive tackles. If

1259
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 3: Mike can play to what he is those two playing

1260
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: off each other could be terrifying for opposing offensive lines.

1261
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: And Malie Collins. Malik Collins is a professional pass rusher,

1262
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: thirty and a half sacks in his career. He was

1263
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: with a couple of years ago. He was down in Houston. Yeah,

1264
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: with Jacques siez Air. He's had five sacks each of

1265
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 2: the last two years Houston and then the Niners. He's

1266
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: a stud, he's a professional. He's a professional pass rusher.

1267
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: And then you add in, you know, you got Shelby

1268
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: Harris as well, and Juwan Briggs. I think that's kind

1269
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: of I think that's your five. I think they're gonna

1270
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: go with five defensive tackles. This one, to me feels

1271
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: a lot more like the five, you know, going back

1272
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: to the defensive ends, like try and show Inca is

1273
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: my sleeper in the sense that he's a first round pick.

1274
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: But can he opposite Miles thrive in a way that

1275
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: he did not in Tampa. But back in this defensive

1276
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: tackle room, I don't know that there really are sleepers

1277
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: Jwan Briggs. I know that they like a lot. Maybe

1278
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: he is, you know, a sleeper and taking on a

1279
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: bigger role, But you know, Hall Graham, Collins and Shelby

1280
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: is your top four and Briggs being your big run stopper.

1281
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: I like that Mike Hall and Mason If we get

1282
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: to the point where it's Mike Call, Mason Graham, Miles

1283
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: and you know, Maguire or whomever becomes that dominant number two,

1284
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: I just think Mike, Mike Call and Mason Graham could

1285
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: be one of the best tackle combinations in the league

1286
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 2: for a while, outside of obviously you know what's going

1287
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: on in Philly and things like that, But I think

1288
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 2: Mike Hall is that talented and obviously their belief in

1289
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: Mason Graham. We haven't seen him in the NFL yet, but

1290
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: their belief in him is of that level. My guess

1291
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: is Hall probably doesn't start the season just because we

1292
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: don't know when we're going to get to see him

1293
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: on the field, right He's probably a training camp guy,

1294
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: at least that was the last time we had heard

1295
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 2: of it. But I like him a lot. I think

1296
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: he is a talented, talented player, talented player who would

1297
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: you most want to have a dinner drink with.

1298
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: We ended up with five, by the way, at this

1299
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: or your five d NSID tackles.

1300
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: We've loved. Shelby's great. I have heard from a lot

1301
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: of people that know him that Malie Collins is a

1302
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: very entertaining We have not had him in here. Yeah, yeah,

1303
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: I think we did. Was I here, I don't know,

1304
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 2: maybe not.

1305
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 3: I feel like I would have remembered. I don't remember

1306
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 3: him coming through here. Shelby's pure joy, Yes, Shelby's pure joy. Yeah,

1307
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: but yeah, maybe both of them will do them both. Yeah,

1308
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: all right, linebacker room now, my friend, a big emphasis here,

1309
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 3: not just in free agency, but also in the draft

1310
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 3: with the addition of Carson Swessinger. But of course we

1311
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 3: now know that Jay Okay will not be a part

1312
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: of this room, at least for this year. So this

1313
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: this adds to I mean, if he's in this room,

1314
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: good lord, he's not, so some guys are gonna have

1315
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 3: to step up.

1316
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that this is one of those

1317
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: rooms that you know, you do the math. My guess

1318
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: is you need six here because of the special teams.

1319
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: I think Schweesander Hicks, India are your starters. And then

1320
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, you're gonna have Baker, Devin

1321
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: Bush and you're gonna have a nice battle. I think

1322
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: between Winston Reid and Bookie Watson for that last spot.

1323
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: It really could be all four of them for three spots.

1324
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: Read Baker, Bush and Watson for three spots is probably

1325
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: really the right way to look at it. But yeah,

1326
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: that could be. That's gonna be a real nice battle there.

1327
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly they brought in Jerome Baker, the former Benedictine

1328
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 3: linebacker and Ohio State Buckeye. I think he was a

1329
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 3: first round pick at Miami, was an early second with

1330
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins with your own Baker, and then obviously

1331
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: Devin Bush came in here last year.

1332
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: He's such a likable dude and played.

1333
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: Well and then so you have that battle there, Sweesssinger.

1334
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna love him, folks, I mean, it's just as

1335
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: simple as that. You're gonna fall in love with him

1336
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 3: when you see him. He's bigger than you think. He

1337
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: just shined at many rookie mini camp in terms of

1338
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 3: he was just everywhere, and he's just an impressive physical specimen.

1339
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: Jordan Hicks ultimate pro as well. If this room had Jokay,

1340
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: then it's terrifying, which is just a just sucks.

1341
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: That what happened to Joka.

1342
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: So you have six in this rooms. That leaves you

1343
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 3: with sixteen heading to the secondary and let's start at dinner.

1344
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: I'd like that. Oh yeah, yeh, dinner, dinner, dinner. J Okay.

1345
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: He's such a good dude, man. I like to talk

1346
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: to him, see how he's doing. Yep.

1347
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: I think Sweesssenger would be fun too, but he's just

1348
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 3: because I don't know him as well and I'm impressed

1349
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 3: with what I've seen from him. Jerome Baker and Devin

1350
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: Bush together for the Michigan Ohio State would be fun to.

1351
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: Play off that a little bit. But yeah, Joka is

1352
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: one of the more introspective dudes. You're going to balance, dude,

1353
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna.

1354
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 3: Find all right, we're in the quarterback room now, buddy.

1355
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: Speaking of strength, there's a lot of it here. Veteran talent,

1356
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 3: tons of talent, all pro type stuff with Denzel Ward obviously,

1357
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 3: the Denzel MJ and Greg at the top. Cam Mitchell's

1358
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: been around a long time. A lot of familiarity here.

1359
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, your top four, I think Denzel Knewsom and then

1360
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: Cam Mitchell and then I think you've got a real

1361
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 2: battle to figure out who else is going to be

1362
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: kind of in this group, and I could see a

1363
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: situation where you end up with, you know, six corners

1364
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: and four and four safeties to round things out here.

1365
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: But you've got MJ Newso Denzel Mitchell, then I think

1366
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: it's kind of a battle. They picked up a Newsium

1367
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: and carried him on the roster all year last year. Yeah,

1368
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: so is he somebody that they really liked that they

1369
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: see Nick Needham as a veteran. You drafted Miles Harden

1370
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: and you liked him. And then there's Tony Brown, right,

1371
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: who is a special team's ace so that they brought

1372
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: back and we love Tony Brown, so it really feels

1373
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: like a Newsum Brown need him hardened. And then you

1374
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 2: could get into Anthony Kendall and anybody else, but they're

1375
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: all competing I think for two spots. I think Emerson, Knewsome,

1376
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: Ward Mitchell is pretty I think that's a pretty secure

1377
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: YEP quartet. So you're thinking six, I do think six. Yeah,

1378
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: So that puts you to twenty two. As we head

1379
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: to the night, you're gonna get fourign safety, which will

1380
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 2: be and this one feels pretty oh hold on corner MJ.

1381
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: For me, I love MJ. So that's why I would

1382
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: go out. That's what I'd break bread with.

1383
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about Mjah, pure joy, pure joy, always

1384
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 3: in a good mood, always happy. Now he's wearing number one. Yep,

1385
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,479
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a very good time with him, all.

1386
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: Right, Safety room.

1387
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 3: I mean Ronnie Hickman needs to delp at Hickman to

1388
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 3: be a dude.

1389
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: Yep, KZ and Jenkins or your four. Chris Edmunds is

1390
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 2: a sleeper. I'll put him as a sleeper undrafted free

1391
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: agent kind of a more of a center field free safety.

1392
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, you need Ronnie Hickman to go. But you've

1393
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: got options now, Kaz and Jenkins. You have professionals back there.

1394
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: So that's kind of to me. It's going to be

1395
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: a battle Grant Delpit starting. Who starts with Grant Delpit?

1396
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: I think will be very interesting to see because does

1397
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: KZ beat Hickman out? You know, how does that all

1398
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: shake out? You think this is for? Those are the

1399
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 2: four guys. I do think those are the four guys.

1400
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, Delpit, Hickman, Casey and Jenkins. As you're

1401
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 3: four in that room, which puts you at twenty six

1402
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 3: and twenty four. And you did it, buddy, which is

1403
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 3: how you roll?

1404
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: My friend?

1405
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 3: Who would you like to have dinner with? In that

1406
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 3: in that safety room?

1407
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: Delpit, love, delpit. He's easy to love love him.

1408
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if I wonder if he's he's probably

1409
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 3: still thrills nine. I did like him in the twenty two.

1410
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 2: I did double deuce. Is he really should be in seven? Right?

1411
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: Isn't that the big Yeah? That was his LSU number.

1412
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 2: He wore with seven LSU stud number. Yeah. I think Hobscott, Yeah, yeah,

1413
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: he Hopscott it.

1414
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 3: I wonder if he would switch again if it became

1415
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 3: available into the seven or now he.

1416
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: Own I think you have to buy all those other

1417
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: ones as well. So I don't think he wants to Uh.

1418
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: I don't think he wants to deal with that.

1419
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

1420
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: And then specialists d hop Bjorkaz and then probably rex

1421
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: So Nahara, although he's got some competition at long snapper.

1422
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: And then well there you go fifty three. There it

1423
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 2: is there, it is Carter returning things as it stands,

1424
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: and away you go.

1425
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: So look, the media will be open tomorrow. Both quarterbacks

1426
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 3: are going to talk tomorrow. The two veterans are gonna

1427
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 3: talk tomorrow. Jerry Judy's gonna talk tomorrow. Brock who's the fourth.

1428
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 3: Oh Baker is the fourth, who's going to go tomorrow.

1429
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 3: So those guys go tomorrow. That session will be open

1430
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 3: to the media, So you're gonna get your view, and

1431
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 3: we're gonna get our view of how Kevin Spansky handles

1432
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: these quarterbacks in the first ota. I mean, it's one ota,

1433
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 3: but nevertheless, you get a view of it.

1434
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm of the opinion.

1435
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 3: I know, I'm sure Kevin will say that it doesn't

1436
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 3: really matter it's so early, but I think everything.

1437
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: Matters when you're in a quarterback competition. I always felt this.

1438
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 3: We don't see this in the NFL very often, but

1439
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 3: like when I would watch at Ohio State and you

1440
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 3: watch like a two or three person quarterback competition, like

1441
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 3: who gets what reps matter? How they back it the

1442
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 3: next day matters. There's intent for everything that these guys

1443
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 3: aren't just throwing here randomly.

1444
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 2: Here's four guys. You take a snap, you take a

1445
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:01,879
Speaker 2: stap like there's purpose.

1446
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, So that that'll be something to watch for

1447
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 3: very closely tomorrow when they when we kick off OTAs.

1448
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 3: In terms of what the public can see, we'll go

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01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,960
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go around the sports world.

1460
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 3: We had a lot going on this weekend. You had

1461
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 3: a lot of racing. You had the Indy five hundred,

1462
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 3: You had a NASCAR race as well. You had Monaco.

1463
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: Pretty incredible.

1464
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: The INNDY five hundred did over seven million viewers, most

1465
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 3: watched Indy five hundred since two thousand and eight. Viewerships

1466
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 3: up forty percent over last year's race. I wish I

1467
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: had like a reason for why there was an enhanced

1468
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: interest in this. My theories are as follows. F one

1469
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 3: is really quite popular, YEP because of the Netflix series

1470
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 3: and honestly because that video game is pretty great and

1471
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,759
Speaker 3: the kids are tuning into that, so I think Open

1472
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 3: Wheel like it's similar.

1473
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 2: That helps.

1474
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 3: Monico, which is on Sunday as well, was like two

1475
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 3: point three million people watch that, so maybe they kind

1476
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 3: of fed into one another.

1477
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: I don't know now.

1478
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 3: I think the other thing as the weather sucked in

1479
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 3: this whole part of the country. The weather wasn't great, like,

1480
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 3: it wasn't seventy five and sunny, so like, I think

1481
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people just kind of hunkered in and

1482
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 3: had the TV on.

1483
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 2: Those are good numbers, though, great numbers, forty percent from

1484
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: last year alone. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Big day

1485
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 2: for obviously Indianapolis. But have you ever doubled up there

1486
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: out of the bargain? No, have you ever been?

1487
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to an auto race of any kind?

1488
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: I've seen some road racing, not like yeah, get where

1489
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: it was, but no, never like to a big NASCAR

1490
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: or for indycarcar.

1491
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: It's a hell of a to do. I mean, it's

1492
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 3: two hundred thousand people around it. I've been to the

1493
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: Daytona five hundred, a bunch and Talladega. I've not been

1494
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 3: to Indy. It's a real spectacle. I would tell you though,

1495
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 3: like my experience covering Daytona as much as I did,

1496
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 3: Like the first five laps are really cool and the

1497
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 3: last ten are really cool and everything else, it's just like.

1498
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: Still driving and there's a lot of it, a lot

1499
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 2: to go.

1500
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 3: It's five hundred miles, baby, long way to go, and

1501
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 3: that that's what I remember from it was like we're

1502
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 3: still here and it was easier for me.

1503
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 2: Like what I would do? How is the race then? Well,

1504
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 2: four hours? I mean it takes forever.

1505
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 3: I mean it's and it's for Daytona. I would watch

1506
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 3: the first five and then I watch the last ten,

1507
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 3: like out near the track, but you really can't see

1508
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: anything at track level because it's two and a half

1509
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 3: miles around it. So the only way is if you

1510
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 3: were way up, could you see the whole track? Otherwise

1511
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 3: you're watching on the money. So like you watch them

1512
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: like fly by and then we'll see around the next

1513
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 3: time and they do it again. But I would find

1514
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 3: myself like just watching on television is what I would

1515
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 3: end up doing more than anything else, and just wait

1516
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 3: for it to kind of be done. But the party

1517
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 3: is a good party, like and I'm guessing the dy

1518
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 3: five hundreds a hell of a party. It's Saturday night

1519
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: into Sunday's got to be got gotta be, gott to

1520
01:13:54,840 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 3: be pretty pretty good. So the NBA, the nostalgia had

1521
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 3: pulled me in too. Nick's Pacers. But then it's two

1522
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 3: zip and I'm like, all right, we'll see if the

1523
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 3: Knicks have any fight in game three. So I watched

1524
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 3: the beginning of Game three and they're down twenty and

1525
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, this is a short series, and I

1526
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 3: the Pacers will be onto the final and the way

1527
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 3: we go. So then I flipped over because they're showing

1528
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 3: all of the Mission Impossibles like they're on a loop. Yeah,

1529
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 3: because the new one dropped this weekend, so they're being

1530
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 3: shown on a loop. So I'm like, oh, I don't

1531
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: even know which one it is. It's it doesn't matter.

1532
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 3: They're all kind of the same after the first one,

1533
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 3: one big set piece after another. And so I watched

1534
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 3: that and it was one of those instances where social

1535
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 3: media was good. I checked Twitter and it was, oh

1536
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: my god, this this might They've come back.

1537
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 2: It's Sassy Karl Anthony Towns.

1538
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 3: So I flipped it back and all of a sudden,

1539
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: Miss Carl Anthony Towns is unstoppable downhill, back three.

1540
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: Back three.

1541
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 3: So I got there for like the last five or

1542
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 3: six minutes and it was awesome.

1543
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 2: It was awesome. Only Halliburton could make a shot for

1544
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 2: the Pacers down the stretch.

1545
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 3: I think it's just the three point shooting, like it

1546
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 3: just comes and it goes Yeah. And if you go

1547
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 3: four or five trips without a bucket and they get

1548
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 3: three or four threes, it's ten points goes quick.

1549
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 2: Real quick. Yeah, it was fun to watch. They're back alive.

1550
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to ask you about because it's

1551
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: pretty clear that this is not just it's it's a

1552
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 2: real thing. It is not just I mean it's a

1553
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: small sample size because just that we'll just use the

1554
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference playoffs as an example. What has happened to

1555
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 2: home court advantage. I don't have a real answer for you,

1556
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 2: because it's not like the crowds are indifferent and the

1557
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: crowds are not And it isn't like, no, the crowds

1558
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: are very partisan. You have rackous atmospheres. The Nix, if

1559
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, are six and one on the road

1560
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and they are not not nearly as

1561
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: good at home this first that series, the road team

1562
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: has won the first three games. Three games. Yeah, and

1563
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: you go back to us and the Pacers. Our only

1564
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: win came on the road. They won three times here.

1565
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 3: I don't I'm gonna couple. You ask a question I'm

1566
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,520
Speaker 3: gonna answer to, but I'm gonna hypothesize.

1567
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 2: Okay.

1568
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 3: Part of it, I do think is the three point shot,

1569
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 3: because there there's not a every all of their offenses

1570
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 3: is built on jump shooting like there isn't in the

1571
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 3: old days, Like all right, let's get a let's get

1572
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 3: a stop, let's hunker down, play some defense, or we're

1573
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 3: gonna go to our big and we're gonna get a

1574
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: post up action and get an easy two. They really

1575
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 3: don't play that way.

1576
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 2: So that's but even to that point, THO, shouldn't there

1577
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 2: be a comfort in shooting in your gym, your floor?

1578
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 2: You know those floorboards? You know it, like the depth

1579
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 2: perception is different in every case.

1580
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 3: You just hit on something to where I was going

1581
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 3: next when you said floorboards. I think all these surfaces

1582
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 3: are perfect. I think all these rims are perfect.

1583
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1584
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 3: I wonder if home court or home field advantage was

1585
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 3: something in the old day when you were staying in

1586
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 3: like a standard hotel room and it was you're going

1587
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 3: into like Boston Garden and Red hourback it turn your

1588
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 3: locker room up to one hundred and five degree temperature,

1589
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 3: and there really was a home court advantage, and maybe

1590
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 3: there's not. Maybe you're staying at a Ritz Carlton everywhere,

1591
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,879
Speaker 3: you're staying at a four season. You're staying at a JW.

1592
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: Marriott.

1593
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 3: You got a suite, Like is it that different? It's

1594
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 3: not your bed, but it's prett damn good. You have

1595
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 3: it to yourself, like what are the uncomfortable? What is

1596
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 3: uncomfortable about being on the road anymore? The locker rooms

1597
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 3: are probably great. There's probably some sort of ruling with

1598
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 3: the CBA where you can't do what they used to do.

1599
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 3: I mean there are stories you asked, like Buckeye players

1600
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 3: used to go to Iowa to play and one thing

1601
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 3: that Hayden Fry the locker room was pink. The Iowa

1602
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 3: head coach painted the opposing locker room pink, and they

1603
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 3: got rid of the dividers on the bathrooms. So if

1604
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna drop one, you did it in front of everybody.

1605
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 3: It was the same place. So like lockers, toilets, yeah, commodes,

1606
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 3: no doors, no walls. Yeah, So like they made you

1607
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 3: uncomfortable on the road, and maybe there isn't that much

1608
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 3: uncomfortable about the road anymore.

1609
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 2: I agree. I just think they're something. It's the best

1610
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 2: I can do. The sight lines are differ every the

1611
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: sight lines are different, the depth perceptions different. But maybe

1612
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: they're not.

1613
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 3: Maybe these things all kind of look the same when.

1614
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: You're in them. Is there that?

1615
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 3: Is it that much different shooting in rocket mortgage versus

1616
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 3: gain break, whatever it is in Indy? Is it kind

1617
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 3: of the same? You know, they used to make these

1618
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: things so different. Now they're all pretty cookie cutter. There's

1619
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 3: not a whole lot of difference.

1620
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: Well, obviously to your point about the surfaces, now that

1621
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 2: they have the surfaces that they can you saw that

1622
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 2: one that was that was a scotty pipolish it where

1623
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 2: they can just change the color of the whole surface instantly. Right,

1624
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: They're like video boards. It's not like a hardwood floor anymore,

1625
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: is it. No? I think it still is. But how

1626
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: are they able to do that? I'm not sure.

1627
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 3: I've seen what you're talking about. I've seen them Like

1628
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 3: they have a whole nother court that they bring on.

1629
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 3: But I think it's all still hardwood.

1630
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 4: If I may, I did see it, and that's not

1631
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 4: that floor is not floorboards. That's some sort of like

1632
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 4: synthetic thing that would that they think would probably still

1633
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 4: work with the basketball.

1634
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: But I that's not in use yet. That's not in use. No,

1635
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: but oh that's coming ye. There's a video of bit

1636
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: behind this all. Yeah.

1637
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they obviously they have, you know, because they

1638
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 3: have the team what do they call those City connect

1639
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: florists that they bring in. Yeah, So I think the

1640
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 3: floors are just they're all the same in their uniform.

1641
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 3: It's not like the old days with like you know,

1642
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 3: you go play the Chicago Stadium and there's boards that

1643
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 3: have been there for twenty two years and they're all different.

1644
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 3: I think everything's just perfect now all the time. That's

1645
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 3: my theory on it. It's just everything's gotten more comfortable,

1646
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 3: so it's not that big. And then the other thing

1647
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,440
Speaker 3: is and this as you played your sports, your competitive

1648
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 3: like there's a little juice with playing on.

1649
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: The road for sure and the US against them and

1650
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: all of that, but it's gone though, there's no question.

1651
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 2: The other thing is these comebacks that are happening.

1652
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 3: So that's the road. I think that's the three. I

1653
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: think that's all the three point shot. I think it's

1654
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 3: so relied upon. You miss some, they make some. It's

1655
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 3: such a huge swing. They take so many threes. You

1656
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 3: go cold for four or five minutes and it flips,

1657
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 3: it does. Yeah, it's I think it's the three. I

1658
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 3: think that's what's the what's that's my theory on that

1659
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 3: one anyway.

1660
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 2: But yeah, those have been good.

1661
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 3: And and now that the Knicks one, you got yourself

1662
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 3: a series on your hands. A couple other things. Did

1663
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 3: you see your boy flag football Jones? Yeah, oh yeah,

1664
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 3: here he's back, Darryl du Set Oh baby. By the way,

1665
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with.

1666
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: Him, Okay, can I say this to you? You say

1667
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 2: whatever you want.

1668
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 3: I find him to be reprehensible me too, and I

1669
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 3: think he might be right. Yes, I feel bad for him.

1670
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why they need a team. That's why we

1671
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 2: need to be disars. They need a team because how

1672
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: great would it be for flag football Jones if he

1673
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: goes out there and they win the gold. Like, here's

1674
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: the thing that's unfortunate for them is they kind of

1675
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 2: have popularize the sport to the point where they want

1676
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: it to be an Olympic sport. They should win the

1677
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: gold you're getting. They're being robbed of an opportunity to

1678
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: ever win a gold medal. My guess is with the

1679
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: NFL players now, they're the only ones who I believe

1680
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 2: have any chance of beating the NFL players, So I

1681
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,520
Speaker 2: want to see it. They need to be in the Olympics.

1682
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: If they're not in the Olympics, it is a total travesy.

1683
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 2: There's a reason why the Americans can't have two teams

1684
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 2: and one will be an NFL team and one will

1685
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: be this guy. You k knowe whatever you want. It's

1686
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: the Olympics. You can make whatever rules you want. It's

1687
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 2: all TV.

1688
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 3: I agree with you, and I think I feel I

1689
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 3: feel very bad for them in the sense of this

1690
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 3: is all he does, and this is this is what

1691
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 3: you've been waiting for. Now it's gone. So that part sucks.

1692
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: I liken it too. And it's not quite like this

1693
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 2: because there's certainly more athleticism involved. But let's just say that,

1694
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: like those guys you've ever thrown on the OCHO late

1695
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,600
Speaker 2: at night, you're so you can scroll around and be

1696
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 2: like the World Mini Golfchampionships.

1697
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, long drive guys maybe even would be another example

1698
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 3: of this.

1699
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: And then they're like, no, we want tour guys to

1700
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, like no, these guys are the guys.

1701
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: By the way, The tour guys couldn't hit it like

1702
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: the long drive guys, that's for sure. But the many

1703
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: golf guys, these guys are so good at and all

1704
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 2: of a sudden they're like, leeh, we're gonna have Tiger,

1705
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: you know, prime Tiger and all these other guys do it,

1706
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: and I'm sure they can pick it up. That's our

1707
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 2: whole thesis right as they can pick it up. Let's

1708
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: see it though, Let's see it. Let's see if it

1709
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 2: really is that easy, because it is a different game.

1710
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 2: There's no question running and knowing like that guy like

1711
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 2: football Jones, he has moves to make his flags. He

1712
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: knows how to make his flags come up if somebody's

1713
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 2: coming from behind, or to make them spin around whatever

1714
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 2: it is. They don't. NFL players aren't worried about getting

1715
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: their flags pulled or all the different moves they can make.

1716
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna be inherently just gifted at the game

1717
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: of football. But he needs a team. So here's needs

1718
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 2: a team. He does.

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01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 3: I feel for him. This was put in this, This

1720
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: is put in the Olympic. I'm sure the NFL had

1721
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 3: a big part of it, because the NFL wants to

1722
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 3: grow the game, and I'm sure they're viewing the twenty

1723
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 3: twenty eight LA Games the way that the NBA viewed

1724
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety two Dream Team, which is, we're going

1725
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 3: to show you what our best is and we're hoping

1726
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 3: it'll inspire a generation of fans. And the Dream Team did,

1727
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 3: and so they're what you're gonna say, this is the

1728
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 3: best we can do, and will this inspire football to

1729
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 3: be played in more parts of the world than it

1730
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 3: currently is played. In order to do that, you need

1731
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 3: to see Mahomes passing to Chase and Jefferson and all

1732
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 3: of that.

1733
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: Sure, this guy.

1734
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 3: So I was watching the video, the highlight videos. You

1735
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 3: see his highlight video. Yeah, okay, what he does, like

1736
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 3: from a movement, standpoint, hips, standpoint, all that to your

1737
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 3: point of like making flags lift, all of that, it's unbelievable.

1738
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 3: The way he throws a football is not in any

1739
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 3: way in the same as the way that an NFL

1740
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 3: quarterback would and one of the plays on his highlight

1741
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 3: is like it's just a go it's a seam go

1742
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 3: route where his guy's running away from a defender. The

1743
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 3: guy who's trying to defend him looked a lot like

1744
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 3: arn Anderson A So like that ain't Denzel Ward. No,

1745
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 3: And so that's the thing is like he's great, but

1746
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 3: it's the different I do think that like he does

1747
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 3: deserve it though, And I think it's very simple to say, hey,

1748
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 3: we're gonna have two teams. I don't think it's that hard.

1749
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 3: By the way, do youever you want the Olympics all

1750
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 3: of a sudden we look golfers in the Olympics.

1751
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: Yes, my guess is that they will be. They will

1752
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: be in the gold medal game. One hundred. They're the

1753
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 2: best in the world at it. Now, what I'd be

1754
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 2: curious is that's why they can't get booted. They can't.

1755
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 3: And what I think would be curious is how many

1756
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 3: who's on the NFL team and how seriously do they

1757
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 3: take it? Because I do think to your point last week,

1758
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 3: if they if we just say I will show up,

1759
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 3: we're fine, and you play flake football Jones and they

1760
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 3: got all their plans and schemes and all the trick stuff.

1761
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 3: If you watch that highlight thing that's going around, it's

1762
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 3: a lot of trick stuff and misdirection and passbacks and

1763
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 3: it's a lot of that, And so like, if you're

1764
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: not ready for that stuff, if you just go out

1765
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 3: there and go, I think it could be very very interesting.

1766
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 3: The other thing, too, is it is fair.

1767
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 2: Flag football is such a I would just worry about

1768
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: sending the guys, like all the jump cuts and the

1769
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: like knees. It just makes me sending NFL players if

1770
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 2: theyre'll do set should get every opportunity to represent Team

1771
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: USA and win the Gold. And then if you want

1772
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 2: to add in NFL players in another year, that's fine,

1773
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 2: but give them, let them have the shot.

1774
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 3: But the reason they're not going to do that is

1775
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 3: because watching flag football Jones play flag football is not

1776
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 3: going to inspire now.

1777
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 2: But that's why he needs a team. There need to

1778
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: be two US teams, and one of them has to

1779
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 2: be flag football Joneses team. Now that I don't have

1780
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 2: a problem with.

1781
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 3: It has to be because he drives me nuts, and

1782
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 3: I also feel for him.

1783
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 2: It's rare that that happens. I like, but what if

1784
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 2: they like to me, the most fun thing that you

1785
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 2: could watch in this Olympics in flag football is not

1786
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 2: our guys body bag. In the rest of the world,

1787
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 2: it's can can daryld du set beat Mahomes like he

1788
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 2: said he would on Twitter? Yeah, yeah for the gold medal.

1789
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: That's like, I want to see the pressure on the

1790
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 2: pros immense. Is that a situation where there's no gain

1791
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 2: for the pro There there's no win. It's similar, but

1792
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: there is a win to win. Yeah, and then you

1793
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 2: get the gold medal as part of it. Yeah, but

1794
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 2: be a lot of pressure, dude, and they're gonna pull

1795
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 2: on things.

1796
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this flag football Jones, he'd be running

1797
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 3: his map, running his yap. If it goes like NBC

1798
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 3: me and Bootsie versus NBC and Beams, he running his mouth,

1799
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 3: same thing.

1800
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 2: They're going to do things that these guys haven't seen. Yeah, yeah,

1801
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: they are.

1802
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah the trick. Watch the video, folks, you'll see it.

1803
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: All right.

1804
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 3: Take a quick time out a couple news around the NFL,

1805
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 3: including what the falcon are planning to do at the

1806
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 3: quarterback position behind Pennix.

1807
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 2: We'll get to those details for you coming up next.

1808
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:06,439
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Speaker 3: of things around the sports world. Falcons quarterback Kirk Cousin

1819
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 3: is not at attendance for the start of OTA's in Atlanta.

1820
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 3: There's no real path for him if not Pittsburgh. If

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01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh doesn't get Rogers, that's it. Otherwise, And you said this,

1822
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 3: we were at a about this. Why would they pay

1823
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 3: him to not play for them? If you're Arthur Blank,

1824
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 3: he's the perfect insurance policy.

1825
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: And supposedly they're not even picking up any they're not

1826
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 2: willing to pay a portion of his salary to facilitate

1827
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: a trade.

1828
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't. I just never understood that at all.

1829
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 3: Why they would pay somebody pay him to play somewhere

1830
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 3: else when they've got an injury injury prone twenty six

1831
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,919
Speaker 3: year old in a division that's very winnable.

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01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, something happens to Penix. Cousin's the perfect.

1833
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 3: Insurance Policy' sorry, you're not the starter, Pale, but you're

1834
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 3: still employee here.

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01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 2: We pay fifty million dollars. Yeah, that's the thanks, that's

1836
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: what the money's for. What the money's for. I'll trade,

1837
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: I'll trade with I'll be happy to Yeah. The cults

1838
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: are back of a time in practice too. Oh, you

1839
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 2: have the time of your life.

1840
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 3: The Colts will wear a patch on their jerseys this

1841
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 3: season in the honor of late owner Jim Ursay, will

1842
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 3: feature Ursay's initials and signature on it. So sounds like

1843
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 3: his three daughters are ready to take over from there

1844
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 3: in terms of the Indianapolis Colts.

1845
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 2: And and there you go.

1846
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 3: One thing that was kind of cool about him is

1847
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 3: you start to hear about all the things that he

1848
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 3: did that nobody knew of, like picking up hospital bills

1849
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 3: and all of this stuff that he did around Indianapolis.

1850
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: That somebody ever knew about. He was obviously had his demons. Yeah,

1851
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 2: was one of the great collectors of all time in

1852
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 2: terms of got the Hendricks guitar, the Cobaine guitar and

1853
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: was it sounds like it was incredibly generous. So yeah,

1854
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's a big loss. He was always

1855
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 2: kind of.

1856
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 3: You know what, do you remember when we had the

1857
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 3: joint practices with him?

1858
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 2: Was he around? Yeah? Was he pretty omnipresent? Yeah?

1859
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 3: I didn't make that trip over there, so I never

1860
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 3: saw like he was someone who.

1861
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: Was That's when McAfee's show was McAfee sitting at a

1862
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 2: plastic table right next to us for real? Was it

1863
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 2: just on YouTube? Doesn't even know where it was. They

1864
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 2: were on er some tent in India. I don't know

1865
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 2: it was YouTube radio, I don't. I don't see like

1866
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: there was not an elaborate camera set up there, just lights.

1867
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 2: It was just Yeah. I remember when he did that.

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01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 3: I thought it was like one of the biggest bets

1869
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 3: on yourself of all time.

1870
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,919
Speaker 2: Incredible, just crushed it.

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01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 3: But just like the idea of like I'm gonna give

1872
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 3: up my guaranteed NFL money and he was still great.

1873
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it a run at this really Yeah.

1874
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 3: At the time, I didn't even know.

1875
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 2: What he was doing.

1876
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, look at him now, look at him now,

1877
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Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, kids, that's the show.

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01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 3: There you go, Hey, enjoy it down there.

1888
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 2: Still don't know where I'm going, but someone's gonna let

1889
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 2: you know, I hope so it feels.

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01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 3: If not, I'll see here b and Gerad will be

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Speaker 3: here to cover you on OTAs.

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01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 2: Enjoy it down there.

1893
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 3: It's a really really cool place and we'll have all

1894
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 3: the OTA action for you tomorrow on the program with

1895
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 3: media being allowed in the.

1896
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Speaker 2: Next level is coming up next.

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