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Speaker 1: that owners don't know what they're looking for with head coaches,

427
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: of course not. It's no different like general managers know

428
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Speaker 1: what they're looking for with quarterbacks. This is a human business, right,

429
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Speaker 1: This is if if it was up to David Temper

430
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: to acquire a company like I saw a quote that

431
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: he had like six months ago. He put a lot

432
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: of money in Uber, you knew, copied him Your boy

433
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: right here? You do turn you know, decent amount of

434
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: money into about thirty percent more Your boy right here.

435
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Guess what, It's still going up. Uber's been by far

436
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: my best investment over the last six months, all because

437
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: I was reading this finance article and David Temper put

438
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: an astronomical amount of money like Dahn gonna fall his lead,

439
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: And I did it, and it's worked out pretty well

440
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: because I have a lot of stocks that are in

441
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: the tank. But when it comes to the football stuff,

442
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: he's fucking clueless. He is, I you know, most people

443
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: in his situation probably would be too. And I know

444
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: he's getting quoted on Twitter screaming f words like I

445
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: don't blame him. It sucks pay all this money and

446
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: you're a laughing stock. It can't be easy. He's used

447
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: to paying a lot of money and then getting more

448
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: money back. That's not the way this works when it

449
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: comes to football Giants. I got a text today from

450
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: a buddy and he said, have you recorded your podcast yet?

451
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: I said, I have not, so I'm gonna record the

452
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: bulk of it after the Money Night football game. He's like,

453
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: are you going to talk about Wink and day Ball?

454
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I think I was going to.

455
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna, you know, Wink, big ego guy, you know,

456
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: button heads. I could see it not being easy, and

457
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: he's like, pump the brakes, bro, you're way off and listen.

458
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm not one this podcast. Nine percent of it is opinions,

459
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: and a decent amount of them are based on things

460
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: that I hear, and I shape my opinions off the league.

461
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: This will just legit information. I don't know anyone with

462
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: the Giants know nobody with the Giants. Don't have any

463
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: inside information there normally, like so when I talk about him,

464
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: it's all just watching him from the outside. So when

465
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: I saw the report that Wink and Brian Dayball hate

466
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: each other, I just said, well, you remember Wink and

467
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: Harball got after it and they let him walk. He

468
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: wanted a lot of money, but winks an older guy,

469
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: very good, big ego guy. Maybe there's button heads. And

470
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: he said, let me tell you this. That coaching staff

471
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: can't stand Brian Dable. The defensive coaching staff despises Brian Dable.

472
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: They think he's a clown. And yesterday he's like, look

473
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: at that video that went out when day ball, who's

474
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: you know this is not this is what I'm being told,

475
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: which I say is very credible that Brian Daball pretty

476
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: into Brian Daball and you know, might be one of

477
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: the first guys out the door, take some cigar breaks

478
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: during the workdays. And he's a guy, and this has

479
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: been reported that he constantly is mfing the coaches. It's

480
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: one thing if you're an if you are a screamer

481
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: and a yeller, to yell at younger coaches or even

482
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: some of your position coaches. It's another thing to constantly

483
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: yelling and motherfucking wink Martindale. And he definitely, from what

484
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: I was told, does that. So those guys can't stand

485
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: it because they say that's all he does. He doesn't

486
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: not for any solutions, so he's just screaming, and he's

487
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: not actually saying like what he wants them to fix.

488
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: And it's one thing, this is not something that just

489
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: happened either this year when they started losing. I was

490
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: told it was awful last year, like that building can't

491
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: stand him, I'm telling you, And I was like, god,

492
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I just Brian Dave ball from

493
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: the outside, bald guy who's kind of rooting for him.

494
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: You find out this is his style. But then to

495
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: the players, he kisses nice because he doesn't want to revolt.

496
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: So the players have no issue with him, but the

497
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: coaches not good. And when you watch that video, what

498
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: did he do? Throws the ball to him knowing the

499
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: camera's on. There was no bro hug, there was no embrace,

500
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: Like when you really watch it, you go, is this

501
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: kind of contrived? If anything, I heard, I bet Wink

502
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: is even more pissed than he did that to him.

503
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: So this situation and this listen, this goes on all

504
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: around the league. A lot of assistant coaches don't like

505
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: their head coach. But when you're a head coach, and listen,

506
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: football is an aggressive sport, whether it's players, players, players, coaches, coaches, coaches,

507
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable constantly. That's not abnormal. Belichick, Nick Saban keep

508
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: people on their toes, but they know everything they're talking about.

509
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: So when you start screaming at people, which is you know,

510
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: some coaches style, you better not just scream to scream like, well,

511
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: what do you fucking think we should do? You're the boss,

512
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: tell us right, And then when they don't think, you know,

513
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: they start thinking you're a fraud. And I'm just telling you,

514
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 1: this thing in New York is a little weirder than

515
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: you think. I didn't know much about it. I hadn't

516
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: even thought about it, honestly, didn't care, just because they'd

517
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: been so terrible. But when I hear this, like, it's

518
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: gonna be awfully interesting how this thing ends, because if

519
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: that's your reputation, right, it's listen, Belichick had a reputation

520
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: for being a disaster, right, but people players wanted to

521
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: when I say a disaster meaning like is gonna suck?

522
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: This is really but you know what you were guaranteed

523
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: for twenty years to fucking win and change the course

524
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: of your career as an assistant coach, as a player,

525
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: anyone associated with that organization. When I don't think you're

526
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: any good and then we're losing. Absolute train wreck and

527
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: that's really what the Giants have been and if they're

528
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: not playing Mac Jones yesterday, and part of it is this,

529
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: you start screaming at the defense, who now for two

530
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: years has been pretty good. Your offense is the disaster.

531
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: But he doesn't even call the offense. So I don't know.

532
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: I just some of this stuff I'm hearing on Brian

533
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: day Ball is not great. And that that story that

534
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't know who put it out, Jay Glazer or

535
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: someone I think has a lot of merit to it.

536
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: Animosity from what I've heard, is not even close to

537
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: strong enough of a way to describe the situation. Hurt

538
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: is bad. Heard, it's really bad. And listen, there are

539
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: probably other situations right the NFL that are the same.

540
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: It just hasn't leaked out. And you're talking about people

541
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: that make a lot of money, big egos. When you lose,

542
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: man that you can't hide it. You can't. It's one

543
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: thing when you win, you just keep your head down,

544
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: you keep swinging toward the next game. When you lose,

545
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: that comes to a head. And I think we're seeing

546
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: that happen like that. That didn't leak randomly. Someone wanted

547
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: it out. And I'm telling you that defensive staff, if

548
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: they were let out of their contracts yesterday, they'd be gone.

549
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: They'd be running to the hill so fast your head

550
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: would spend a couple other things around the league. One

551
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: thing I felt pretty good about coming into the season,

552
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: and I've just I've nailed listen. I've missed on some

553
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: takes and I'm gonna miss on many more. But I've

554
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: never liked mac Jones. And I said that Mac Jones

555
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: was gonna get everyone fired. And it's not even worse

556
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: than I thought. I mean, I saw a lot of

557
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: people that cover the team calling it his worst half ever.

558
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: That feels strong to me. But it was pretty bad.

559
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: He's not any good. Now we can say it's confidence

560
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: and Bill messing with him. When you're not good enough,

561
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: you don't deserve to have your handheld when you don't

562
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: show any promise or any hope. I don't. I don't

563
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: just have to build up your confidence. This is the pros,

564
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: this is the big leagues as a rookie or whatever.

565
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: When I'm trying to build you up and figure out

566
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,239
Speaker 1: what you have. But after a while you have to

567
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: show something like this is a two way street. So

568
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: Bill last week splitting the reps and I don't blame

569
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: him at all. Now still going with Mac Jones, like

570
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: maybe he can getch lightning in a bottle. He can't.

571
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: He's not any good. He's he's god awful. And like

572
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, he's not gonna be on that team next year.

573
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty clear that Bill Belichick is

574
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: not going to be on that team either. Listen, quarterback

575
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: win loss records, like they always say that the win

576
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: the win or the loss, Like your win loss record

577
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: is not a quarterback stat. And if you're a good

578
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: player and you play for a long time, I kind

579
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: of push back on that, eventually you're gonna be a winner. Right.

580
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: You could have a rough season, But if you're a

581
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: good player, like if Justin Herbert is who Justin Herbert,

582
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: we think he's gonna be even with the Chargers, He's

583
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: gonna find a way to win games as they change coaches. Right,

584
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: And yesterday is a good example. Josh Allen lost the game.

585
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: I was thinking a lot about this today. I technically

586
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: could have played a little better because he threw the pick,

587
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: but he was fucking incredible, and that game is gonna

588
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: be an l on his record when his defense screwed

589
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: him twice that final drive in regulation. I never understand

590
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: when in a situation where, especially if it's a bad

591
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: weather game and they got to drive the field just

592
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: to get in field goal range, when you start playing

593
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: very very conservatively in like a prevent defense, you're just

594
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: giving plays and you're just giving free yards, and if

595
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: they have a couple timeouts and they can get thirty

596
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: forty yards pretty quickly. And when you're playing a team

597
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: with good skill guys, all it takes is a broken tackle.

598
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: All it takes is a missed you know, a juke

599
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: in space for a ten yard game to turn into

600
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: a twenty three yard game, and all of a sudden,

601
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: I flipped the field. So I hate it when teams

602
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: change their defensive strategy just because they're scared. And then

603
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: that final drive, like he put him in position, he

604
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: completed a ball to Digs that got knocked out. Obviously

605
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: him and Davis weren't on the same page on that play.

606
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly who was wrong, but either way,

607
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: you can't watch that game and go that guy's not

608
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: a superstar because he is. And part of football is

609
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: like you need a good defense if your defense sucks

610
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: and you're lighting up the other team. Like one thing

611
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: Jalen has is his defense just periodically makes some place.

612
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: And obviously he's a stud, right, just like a lot

613
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen. He is just a superstar and you

614
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: just have faith in him. They'll figure it out in

615
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: every single game. He's Honestly, the more and more I

616
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: thought about it, I think he's my favorite player in

617
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: the league, just in terms of I love everything he

618
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: stands for the way he conducts himself. There was that

619
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: video of when Elliott hit the field goal. He didn't

620
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: even budge. He feels like he never celebrates even the

621
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: game winner. He just kind of looked at the crowd.

622
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: I love that. Maybe it's like an homage to the

623
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: way my dad raised me to be. I just I

624
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for the way he operates

625
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: mentally and physically. I mean, when it's just not going

626
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: well and he's kind of limping around, he just fucking

627
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: finds a way. Jalen Hurts is a certified badass. And

628
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: that game, same with Josh Allen. That that game, those

629
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks were basically the complete opposite of what we

630
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: watched tonight. Last but not least, if you're a Bills fan,

631
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboy fan, if you're an Eagles fan,

632
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: if you're a Niner fan, if you're you know, a

633
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: Patriot fan that remembers the good old days, or a

634
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: Bronco fan. When Peyton Manning was, you know, the quarterback,

635
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: can you imagine celebrating a game. It's like, listen, I

636
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: know we scored sixteen points, but we had four hundred

637
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: plus yards of offense. I was thinking about it when

638
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: let's use the Niners for example, because I watched them

639
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: so closely. If whenever they score sixteen seventeen points, which

640
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: they did a couple straight games against the Bengals and

641
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: the Browns and the Vikings, no one talked about the yards,

642
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: right because it didn't matter, Like why can't we score

643
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: more points? Red zone turnovers, red zone inefficiency? Like what

644
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: happened just party against the Bengals, for example, through for

645
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: like three hundred and fifty yards, but they scored seventeen points.

646
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: It's like all we talked seventeen points, seventeen points, seventeen points.

647
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: The Steelers wanted to throw a party because they accounted

648
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: for over four hundred yards of offense. You guys scored

649
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: sixteen fucking points. I mean, how could you be excited? Like, listen,

650
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: the point of the NFL find a way to win.

651
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: You don't get style points. But they are doing way

652
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: too much celebrating. I don't feel any better about that.

653
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't care how many yards pick it through for.

654
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't care how much better this new coordinator is.

655
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: If they're going to struggle like they have been to

656
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: score twenty points in every game, they're going nowhere. Now

657
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: if they could convert four hundred and fifty yards into

658
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 1: twenty seven points moving forward, then yeah, we're talking about

659
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: a different team. But like, what the hell changed against

660
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals scored sixteen freaking points. They were one of

661
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: four in the red zone. I just if that's where

662
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: you're at, And I would imagine most Steeler fans aren't

663
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: like super happy. I mean, they're happy that Canada's gone,

664
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: but aren't just annoying the franchise because they found a

665
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Speaker 1: way to be productive from the twenty to the twenty

666
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: yard line. But I think we need to pump the

667
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: brakes until we get twenty five points up on up

668
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: there on the scoreboard. Let's get to the player that

669
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: made it look easy, Morgan and Morgan and I just

670
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: talked about him, but I'm gonna talk about him again.

671
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: No player that I remember can look And maybe it's

672
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: this year because he's been banged up. Maybe it's a

673
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl hangar. I don't know, but maybe it's the

674
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator consistently is bad early in the game.

675
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen Hurts. I can't count how many games

676
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: I've watched this season in the first half where you're like,

677
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: what are we doing? This is where is the Jalen

678
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: Hurts that we saw last year? What is going on?

679
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: You're like, God, is this Did they screw up? They

680
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: pay him too much money? But his body language never changes.

681
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: He was like, miss the play or just walk over there.

682
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: I'll talk to Siriani was sitting on the bench and

683
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: he'll put his home back on. I'll come back out.

684
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: And then you look up. They've won the game and

685
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: he's accounted for five touchdowns, two on the ground, walk

686
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: in the game winner, Like, how the hell did this

687
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: guy do that? There is something to be said and

688
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: listen his adversity is unique. Right. He went to Alabama

689
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: and then transferred to Oklahoma, so his football world right

690
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: is is It's not like he had to walk on

691
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: at Oregon State and then he transferred to Texas Tech

692
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: or something. I mean, this guy was in football royalty

693
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: when it come to college, but he was benched for

694
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: Tua tongua Iloa. He did have to transfer to Oklahoma,

695
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: So he had adversity in his life that is not disputable,

696
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: first class football adversity, but it was legit. And then

697
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: he was drafted in the second round and was not

698
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: named the starter by any means. When he got to

699
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: the NFL and where he started at and where he

700
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: is now is one of the most incredible things I've

701
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: ever seen. It truly is because let's use josh Allen,

702
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: who we were just talking about him with, because they

703
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: just played well. Josh Allen improved a lot from college.

704
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: He was taken seventh overall. You take a guy seventh overall,

705
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: you think the guy could be a star, which he

706
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: has become. But they believed in it. Not a soul

707
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: thought that about Jalen Hurts. There wasn't one NFL draft board,

708
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: not one, including the Eagles guy has a first round grade.

709
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: The guy wasn't even viewed as a first round player,

710
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: so to become in most people like, let's face it,

711
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: I was not alone thinking the guy. You know, he's

712
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: really more of a running back. I mean, his early

713
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: on in his career, that's what he looked like. And

714
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: he's become such a potent deep ball thrower. He's just

715
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: so consistent as a player in terms of just every game,

716
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna get. It might take a

717
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: minute for it to get there, but you know it's

718
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: gonna come. He's just a badass. I mean, he truly is.

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Speaker 1: If you like the NFL, even if you're a Cowboy fan,

720
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: a Giants fan, a Niner fan, whatever, and you want

721
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: to hate the Eagles, you gotta respect this guy. I

722
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: can't have any more. Honestly. He earned even more my

723
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: respect in that game on Sunday in the rainstorm, after

724
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: they had just won a big Chiefs game. You know

725
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: they got the Niner game coming up. Even if they

726
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: blew the Bills game, it's not the end of the world.

727
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: He just refused to let him loose. And when you

728
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: watch the Eagles now, he refuses to let them loose.

729
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Speaker 1: Morgan and Morgan player of the week Jalen hurt. So

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Speaker 1: to nine. Okay, let's dive into the mailbag. Easiest way

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Speaker 1: to get in Instagram My name at John Middlecoff. Fire

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Speaker 1: in those dms, get your questions answered here on the show.

738
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: We'll start with Liam mail bag question. Saw your tweet

739
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: about David Tepper might have been a little angry that

740
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: he fired my guy, Douce Staley, who is easily one

741
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: of the better assistant coaches and running back coaches in

742
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: the league. Now, we talked about it earlier. I get it,

743
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: but it makes me angry. It just does. Because Deuce

744
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: left the Lions, Dan Campbell was his guy to go

745
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: be closer to his mom, who is aging and who

746
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: knows how much longer she was gonna be around. He

747
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: went there for family. God, it ticks me off still.

748
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: Who do you think will rain in the NFC? South

749
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: in the future. Who is the top team in the

750
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: division going forward? Well, I think it's wide open right,

751
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: let's face it. The Saints are a debacle. They paid

752
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: Derek a lot of money and he's just not good anymore.

753
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Might be the offensive coordinator as well. The combination just

754
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Dennis Allen's not a good head coach. The

755
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers need to reset the franchise, they really do.

756
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 1: They know that they're eating a bunch of money this year.

757
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers no work. I mean, they don't even

758
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: coach in the Atlanta Falcons, you know, definitely, I would

759
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: say a quarterback away from being a lot better than

760
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: they are. But it's how do you get that quarterback?

761
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: You know? I mean there's no guarantee that you just

762
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: snap your fingers and get that guy. Now, if somehow

763
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: this offseason Kyler Murray becomes available, could they trade for him?

764
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: Could they move up in the draft and draft a

765
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: guy high? But if they do that, there's no guarantee

766
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: he'll be any good. So I would say TBD with

767
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: not a lot of good options. And I think anytime

768
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: that you're in that position, it's a problem, and that

769
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: division right now is in a quarterback situation where they're

770
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: just not any good. Cam Newton was started there for

771
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: a decade, right, You had Drew Brees the starter of

772
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: there for fifteen years. You had it in Atlanta, Matt

773
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: ryan a started there for fifteen plus years as well.

774
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Like you lose those guys, it's hard to hit the

775
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: reset button. And this is typically what happens. Longtime listener,

776
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: first time reaching out question. During the NFL season, if

777
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: a team is facing a sub five hundred opponent, do

778
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: they attempt to use some sort of time to try

779
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: out new run plays or pass route concepts. While you

780
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: never want to totally overlook a team you expect to

781
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: be bad. Look at how Arizona put Dallas on their ass.

782
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: Do teams do this? Hey, I've got this new scheme

783
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: we've been working on to practice, let's try it Sunday.

784
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: I actually think you're less like to try things that

785
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: you potentially could use. Like if you're a playoff team

786
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: and you're playing a team that has a couple wins. Right,

787
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: let's just say you're the Eagles or the Cowboys or

788
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: the Niners, and you're in this hypothetical situation playing the

789
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. I think you're less likely to bust things

790
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 1: out and more likely just to run what you always run.

791
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: You leave the bust out stuff like the Niners and Eagles.

792
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: This is a week when they bust some stuff out.

793
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: In two weeks the Cowboys versus Eagles, that's a week

794
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: when you try to bust some stuff out. Bill's desperation

795
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: against the Eagles. You don't do it when you're playing

796
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: the fucking Jets. If any especially, you go into the game.

797
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: You have to prepare in any game, because I got

798
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: yelled at when I first got in the NFL for

799
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: making fun of bad teams to an assistant coach when

800
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: I was like, I think handing out the injury report

801
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: or the weather report, and he kind of scolded me,

802
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: you cannot act like that in this league. And I agree,

803
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: you can't act like that going into a game. No

804
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: one ever anointed more teams coach in schemes then Belichick

805
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: in the Brady years when he would play the worst

806
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: teams imaginable, and then he'd just go on a ten

807
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: minute diatribe in his press conference about how great they

808
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: are in special teams, Like what is this guy talking about?

809
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: But he had to psych himself out. Now, once you

810
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: get into that game and you're up twenty five to nothing,

811
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: you're not gonna run some double pass or maybe some

812
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: new ideas with blocking schemes with your offense. Same thing

813
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: with defense. Right, if you can just play your base

814
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: defense and beat the team, there's no point to start

815
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: doing some stunts or maybe some blitz concepts or some

816
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: different coverages to put that out there for your upcoming

817
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: opponents that matter. Now, Ultimately, I think sometimes we overthink football.

818
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a game. Do I got better

819
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: players and my go to plays? And sometimes can my

820
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: player pull a play out of his ass? Right? Obviously,

821
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: the NFL is a scheme oriented sport. But like at

822
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: this point in time, if you're playing the Chiefs, the Ravens,

823
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Niners, the Eagles, like kind of know

824
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: what they do, you know what their strengths and weakness.

825
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: All of a sudden one of their players isn't gonna

826
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: do something completely different more than likely and expose you.

827
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: Not saying that it can't happen, but you got a

828
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: pretty good idea coming in, Like what Chris Jones, Patrick Mahomes,

829
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce and their dbs like to do. I know

830
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: Lamar's strengths and weaknesses, like I know what Debo and

831
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: I uke the Rats they like to run. Right now,

832
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: you can have a wrinkle or two, but I think

833
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: sometimes that gets a little overvalued at the highest level.

834
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 1: These teams know what's going on. Right if I'm playing

835
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles, like, I got a pretty good idea what

836
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: Jalen likes to do. Loves that quarterback sneak up the middle.

837
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: They hell they pull offensive lineman, loves throwing the go routes.

838
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: Jalen in the quick game isn't terrifying me. I'm not

839
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: saying that he can't hit those which he will with ease,

840
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: but like to me, to stop the Eagles if I'm

841
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: the Niners this week, it's all about how do we

842
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: slow down his first down runs, not like on first down,

843
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: but like if it's third and seven, either just he

844
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: scrambles for a first down or design runs up the middle,

845
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: And to how do we limit their explosive place. I mean,

846
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: that's it sounds basic, but that's fucking what they do

847
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Speaker 1: on offense. I recently heard your pod where you said

848
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Speaker 1: look at athletes a lot like stocks I'm the co

849
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: founder of a startup that allows athletes to sell equity

850
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: in their career and values. Fans get to invest in

851
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: it the same way like Apple or Google in a

852
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: federally regulated marketplace. My team and I would like to

853
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: chat you listen. I'm not all four entrepreneurship, and that

854
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: sounds like an interesting idea. I wonder how difficult that

855
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: would be to actually monetize, right, But shit, if you

856
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: got in Patrick Mahomes that rookie season when he was

857
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: the backup, be like getting in the video big shout

858
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Speaker 1: out to three and out. Appreciate you. I found you

859
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: from listening to the Hurt, and I find myself excited

860
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: to listen. Don't tell Coward I love a show too.

861
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: I enjoy your move down to Earth takes and the

862
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: profanity is refreshing. I love your takes. I'm gonna say

863
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: this is just positivity about man, not gonna not gonna

864
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: hate it. Kell I guess this was just wasn't even

865
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: a question, just positive. I appreciate you, Matt. I think

866
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: the winner of the NBA mid season tournament should get

867
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: a guaranteed ten seed in the playoffs. Thoughts, I don't

868
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: have many NBA mid season tournaments, be lying. If I've

869
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: watched much, I get back to you know, they are

870
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: manipulating it, rightfully so trying to boost television ratings. But

871
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: I just I have a hard time putting any value

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Speaker 1: into it. So my take on that would be, no,

873
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: you can't just pull something out of your ass. I

874
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: just at least the play in tournament like a lot

875
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: like the seven seeds in the NFL or the new

876
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: wild cards in baseball. You have to win games over

877
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: the course of a season, like you have to earn

878
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: your way there just playing a couple of weeks. Honestly,

879
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: the end season tournament is just a tournament while the

880
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: regular season is going on. Like I'm sorry, Adam Silver,

881
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: You're not the EPL. This isn't soccer. So I have

882
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: a hard time valuing. And I've heard other people say

883
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: this automatic six seed or automatic you know, top ten seed,

884
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: Like no, no chance, call me grouch, call me old

885
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: man on a cloud. But you can't just pull something

886
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: out us from nowhere that has never happened in this

887
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: sport and get a playoff spot. I can't get behind it.

888
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: You want to give him money, which they are even

889
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: though giving five hundred thousand dollars to a guy making

890
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars is not as crazy as it sounds. Now.

891
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of players say it's cool to

892
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: go to their two way players, but I'd be lying.

893
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to be a hater here, but

894
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to get too emotional and really

895
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: have a take about the Ncason Tournament. Kind of apathetic

896
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: at this point. My question is, do you think that

897
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow could be the next Andrew Luck? In terms

898
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: of injuries due to the sacks, Luck was sacked one

899
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen times in fifty five games. Burrow sacked

900
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty eight times in fifty two games.

901
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: In the playoffs, Luck was sacked le times and Burrow

902
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: sacked twenty nine times. Well, I hear you in the

903
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: sense that they both. You know, obviously Burrow had a

904
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: major knee injury, you know early on in his was

905
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: that his rookie year. Second, it would have been his

906
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: rookie year that was offensive line related. I have a

907
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: hard time putting this hand injury on the offensive line. Now,

908
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: big picture, you can't take that many hits right in

909
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: Burrow's more athletic than like Brady and Peyton, right who

910
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: to me like him Mahomes, I mean even Josh Allen.

911
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: Like if you watch Josh Allen against the Eagles and

912
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: you can't go, this guy has the opportunity to be

913
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: one of like top fifteen ten quarterback of all time

914
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: long way to go, then I don't know what to

915
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: tell you. Like, he's just he's like my John Elway.

916
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is just to me, probably the best quarterback

917
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: I've seen of his generation. Obviously, you could argue one

918
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: of the best ever. He's already up there with like

919
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: Peyton a couple of MVPs. I know Peyton won like

920
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: four or five, but Rogers won four or five. But

921
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: he already multiple super Bowls, and he just consistently dominates

922
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: the NFL, and he's like twenty seven to twenty eight. Well,

923
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: to me, Joe Burrow has a chance to be right there.

924
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: I would say one thing that Peyton and Brady do

925
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: that those guys don't do, because they're all kind of

926
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Speaker 1: have some mobility. Obviously Josh has the most. Mahomes and

927
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: Burrow good examples guys that can move but really look

928
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: to throw you have to just get down. And I

929
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: think one thing Brady and Manning did is a hit

930
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: the fucking ground. No one's questioning anyone at that level's toughness,

931
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: Like these guys are so elite, all tough guys. You

932
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: can't play quarterback at that level without being a tough guy,

933
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: but you can't take the unnecessary hits. Now, some of

934
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: it's obviously not on him, but I think that's one thing,

935
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: big picture he's gonna have to learn to do, is

936
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Speaker 1: just avoid some of this stuff. And I think the

937
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: hand injury, I have a hard time putting that on

938
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: anyone except just wear and tear and injuries. Unless I'm

939
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: missing something. I haven't seen a video where he got

940
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: slammed on his hand. Could be wrong, you know, don't

941
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: try to balance my time of just Twitter and Internet

942
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: and that's you where you find stuff like that. But

943
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything like that. So again, if I'm wrong,

944
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: shame on me. But I wouldn't go there quite yet.

945
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's definitely it's okay to say Burrow's

946
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: injuries are a concern. Burro's injuries are a concern. Shattered

947
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: his knee, came back flying Colors team of Super Bowl

948
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: right a couple of years later, season ending hand injury.

949
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: So however he gets it, I don't view him quite

950
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Speaker 1: like Luck because part of I feel like Luck took

951
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: more shots. Again, I know the statue just gave me,

952
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: but just from the eye test, it felt like he

953
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: physically got hit more often than Joe, more violently. Maybe

954
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: the league was a little more violently early on, you know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

955
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Let's face it, just seven eight years later, it's a

956
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: different NFL. I mean, look at Draymond puts a guy

957
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: in a fucking choke hold and gets spend in five

958
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: games the NBA I grew up on it be a

959
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: technical and a thumbs up. Okay, big fan of three now,

960
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: long time listener. I'm a big believer in Purty, but

961
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,479
Speaker 1: it does seem fair to want to see him play

962
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: well and come from behind situations more often before we

963
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: put him in the elite tier with Mahomes in Burrow.

964
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: Do you think he is capable of it and more

965
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: of a Kyle issue than we've seen this year or

966
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: is it possible limitations with experience or other things that

967
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: have prevented Purdy from getting it done. I will say

968
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: he led them to a field goal range against Cleveland

969
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: and Moody missed it. Well, like that's you just threw

970
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: out two dames there. Patrick Mahomes, who like already is

971
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: like entrenched as a top six or seven quarterback of

972
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: all time and he's not even to his thirty year

973
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday yet. And Joe Burrow another guy who looks

974
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: like he's headed to be a top ten quarterback ever,

975
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: health permitting. So look who were comparing him to eighteen

976
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: months ago? Think about that. I'm recording this on November

977
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: twenty seventh. Brock Purty was twenty twenty three. Brock Purty

978
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: was drafted essentially like May one, twenty twenty two, So

979
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: we're talking eighteen months this guy. This guy was drafted

980
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: in the last pick of the seventh round. That's who

981
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about. So comparing him to like Burrow, that

982
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: seems insane. Mahomes won the MVP a second season, right,

983
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: and it was his first round pick. Joe Burrow was

984
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. This guy was viewed as

985
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: like a not even a backup held by the fucking

986
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. The forty nine ers had paid Nate

987
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: Sudfeld two million dollars guaranteed to be the backup. Pretty

988
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: just beat him out, and I don't even blame him,

989
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: like they needed a backup. You can't depend on your

990
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: seventh rounder. And this is where I get uncomfortable with

991
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: comparing him in a vacuum. Brock Party is a really

992
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: good player right now, he is thriving on the forty

993
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: nine ers. Comparing him to like Hall of Fame level

994
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: guys is unfair to him now in a couple of years,

995
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: more than fair right to start nitpicking him. But right

996
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: now he's a fucking seventh round pick, kicking the shit

997
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: out everybody. Gino Smith makes to sign for sixty million dollars,

998
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: Rock Party ran circles around him, so yes has to

999
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: come back. But they're not in comeback situations a lot

1000
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: when he's the quarterback. That's like one of the problems

1001
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: because they blow everyone out, and when they were against Cleveland,

1002
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: he let them rite down. There's a big game against

1003
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: Philly this this Philly should be exhausted. This week they

1004
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: play Kansas City in a knockdown, drag out Monday night

1005
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: game in cold weather, tough conditions. Six days later, they

1006
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: play the Bills, who are desperate as a you know

1007
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: what in a driving rainstorm in an overtime game, and

1008
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: they pull both games out in credit to them. Incredible

1009
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: to watch, like that team knows how to win. Like

1010
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: the Diners should fucking put a hammer on them this

1011
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: week just because they run out of gas. Honestly, I

1012
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't even blame Philly. Much more important this week for

1013
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: the Diners than the Eagles once the Eagles won that

1014
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: Bills game. But if they are in a situation where

1015
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: they're like down five in the fourth quarter, yeah, it's

1016
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: on the quarterback and on the coach. Like Kyle Shanahan

1017
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: has never come back down a touchdown in the fourth

1018
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: quarter as a head coach. Never happened. It's kind of crazy. So, like,

1019
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: I think he needs to figure that out, but I

1020
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: have faith pretty can figure it out. Is it really

1021
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: believable that Harbaugh didn't know what was happening in his

1022
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: own program. I live in the Louisville area, and when

1023
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: you know what hit the fan with college basketball, everyone

1024
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: here kept saying Rick Patino didn't know anything. I think

1025
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: he's talking about the hookers. I find it impossible to

1026
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: believe that these coaches who literally eat sleep and breathe

1027
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: their sport are clueless about what's going on in their

1028
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: own program. Oh yeah, and Michigan wasn't good and didn't

1029
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: even come to pay Jim until Connor got hired. Wasn't good,

1030
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: was strong, they were underachieving. They were winning, you know,

1031
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: nine ten games. Now they're winning thirteen fourteen games. So

1032
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of things going on.

1033
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: For example, had I had a buddy talked to a

1034
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: college coach the other day and he said, and I've

1035
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: heard this a million times, that program was using nil

1036
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: before NI ever existed, basically saying that team was paying

1037
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: guys under the table and forever in the SEC. And

1038
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: I've seen Danny Knell tweet this. They've been cheating their

1039
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: ass off for fucking decades. And listen, I've never had

1040
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: a problem with handing a kid fifty one hundred grand

1041
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: give him a car. I don't care. It's what in

1042
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: my world we call capitalism. It's what we call what

1043
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 1: you have to do to be successful. You do whatever.

1044
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: It's not breaking the law. That's an NCAA issue with

1045
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of over educated loser administrators who you wouldn't

1046
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: fucking trust to walk your dog across the street. But

1047
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: this notion that, like there are these outlier situations, for

1048
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: example the Rick Patino thing, they got some hookers on campus.

1049
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: These are seven eighteen, nineteen twenty year old guys, Like

1050
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: who cares? Like I'm on phasebiole, What do you think

1051
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: is going on with a twenty year old at Louisville

1052
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: or at Kentucky or Duke. Hey, this is one of

1053
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: my issues. I like Jay billis a lot, I really do.

1054
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: But he's talked forever about players not getting paid before.

1055
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: Now it's like, Jay, you cover college basketball, which is

1056
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: not only way more corrupt than football because there's less

1057
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: premium assets. Right with the players the top ten guys

1058
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: are so valuable. Recruits in college football are very risky.

1059
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: There's a million fucking players. Like the best running back

1060
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: in the country, one of them is arguably at col

1061
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: right now. He went to Norco High School in LA.

1062
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: Any team could have had him, but he wasn't the

1063
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: biggest recruit. Now like Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, they'll

1064
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: probably try to pay him this offseason to get him

1065
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: to transfer. In college basketball, that rarely happens, right The

1066
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: Steph Curry stories. It's usually Zion Anthony Davis. Usually the

1067
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: top recruits are the top draft picks, and they have

1068
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: been paying. It's one thing in football for me to

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00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: get a player. If I'm at Alabama back in the day,

1070
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: sixty grand, most people aren't offering him huge cash. Were

1071
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: in basketball sixty grand that their family to hang up

1072
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: on you. And these college basketball programs have been doing

1073
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: shady shit. When I think basketball in the high level

1074
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: of college in the NBA, I think two things basketball women.

1075
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's just part of the deal, and I'm

1076
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: not bothered by it. But I think it's very disingenuous

1077
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: when people talk about like, oh, I can't believe, can't

1078
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: believe what everything was. Fucking John Wooden had a bag man.

1079
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: He was a lawyer in La So Jim Harbob cheating.

1080
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: He ain't cheating, he ain't trying. This is football, this

1081
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: is Mike Elko just got seven million dollars a year

1082
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: for five years. There is so much money in the line.

1083
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: You do everything. I don't know what industry you're in,

1084
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: but every industry I've ever been a part of. Everyone's

1085
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: pushing the envelope. With football to radio, to Now with podcasts,

1086
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: there's a difference between pushing the envelope and quote unquote

1087
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: breaking a law, because if you can't go to jail,

1088
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: then whatever. If you ain't trying, someone else will turn

1089
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: on any of these shows about these successful companies, gonna

1090
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: make you a little uncomfortable what they did, but guess

1091
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: what they did it for a reason, usually why they

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00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: got to the top. So then he had some dude,

1093
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: some marine in Iowa, Nebraska, like, I'm sorry, I just

1094
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: watched Michigan with their a thirty seven year old former.

1095
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: I was like, how old is this guy? Younger than me?

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00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: The interim coach, Sharon Moore beat Ryan Day clearly, I

1097
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: don't have signals or anything. And if they did, Ohio

1098
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: State clearly changed it. Beat him straight up now, right,

1099
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: they played him well. But an interim coach who was

1100
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: filling in for Harbaugh, who's at home, you know, eating

1101
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: a sandwich and drinking a whole milk beat him straight up.

1102
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: So like remember when Brady and Grigson was like, oh,

1103
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: they're the flat in the ball, and then Tom Brady

1104
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: and the Patriots fucking destroyed everybody. So it's like, if

1105
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: you can't back it up, if I catch you cheating

1106
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: and you were literally a fake like Millie Vanilli. So

1107
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: it's like, wait, you can't actually sing. Some of you

1108
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be too young to know what that

1109
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: reference is. But like it was completely not his voice.

1110
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: He was just sinking complete fraud, right, like en run

1111
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: complete fraud company, Birdie made off Ponzi scheme. Right. But

1112
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: if you don't think fucking Google or Amazon or Chase

1113
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: Bank or fucking whoever, the Patriots, the Niners, Bama is

1114
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: doing some shit that, it's like, it's probably not above board.

1115
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: You got your head under the sand man. We live

1116
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: in a world where you're either playing the game or

1117
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: you're getting played, and if you want the action, it's

1118
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: usually on the edges, right. It usually gets a little

1119
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: hot in the kitchen. Sometimes you get burned. Now, they

1120
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: got caught, you know, part of pushing the envil. If

1121
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: you get caught, then you got to deal with the consequences.

1122
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: But I have a hard time to be like, is

1123
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: he know or didn't know? I don't know like all

1124
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: these players. Historically, in the cheating scandals in college sports

1125
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: with paying players, there was always like a separation between

1126
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: the head coach, so it's like the head coach never

1127
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: handed anyone the money. The head coach, it's why what's

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00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: his name, Jeremy Pruett at Tennessee got in trouble because

1129
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: his wife was handing people cash you deserve. There's a

1130
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: moron tax in life. You think Nick Saban has ever

1131
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: handed anyone cash in a back? Of course not. Do

1132
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: you think Bama has ever paid I'm talking pre and

1133
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: il people a shitload of money to come to school there?

1134
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: What do you think Georgia, Ohio State USC come on?

1135
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: Of course they have, That's why they dominate. You think

1136
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: they want to lose? Fuck? No, right, If you got

1137
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: the funds and you want to win the world's your oyster.

1138
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: But if you get in trouble, that's on you. Do

1139
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: I think that he specifically told him what to do?

1140
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: Probably not. Do I think that he had some idea

1141
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: what was going on? Yeah? I do. Do I care,

1142
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: not one iota. Do I care that these basketball players

1143
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: forever got paid hundreds of thousands of dollars? Of course not.

1144
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: Does it bother me a little bit when people that

1145
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: are in the NOPE acted like it didn't happen, Yeah,

1146
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: it does, because I think it's very It's like we

1147
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: live in this giant fugazi no no whatever wants to

1148
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: say anymore, what's actually going on. It's crazy. It's what

1149
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: bothers me the most about society and just politics in general.

1150
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: Let's just call it fucking spade. Spade, It's okay, no

1151
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: one cares. That's why I help football just breaks off

1152
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: from the NCAA. Stop listening to those people. Just do

1153
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: what you gotta do, make it about money, and just

1154
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: let's just be numb to it and play football. And

1155
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: maybe that's the wrong way for the health of the

1156
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: sport big picture, but that's where we're headed. That's where

1157
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: we're headed because that's the way the big boys have

1158
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: always treated it right. Football comes first. Football has always

1159
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: come first. At Ohio State, at Michigan, at LSU, at Alabama,

1160
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: at Georgia, at Texas, they just they care. And when

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01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: you care a lot about something, whether anyone listening to

1162
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: this knows if they're an entrepreneur, if they work at

1163
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: a company trying, they'll do whatever it takes. They'll do

1164
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 1: whatever it takes, and sometimes that's doing something that isn't

1165
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Ethan Strauss put this in

1166
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: an article the other day. If all him on substack

1167
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: that Peter Guber, the you know Hollywood executive, he's now

1168
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, co owner of the Golden State Warriors, basically

1169
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: has a famous quote that just and I just this

1170
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: encompasses sports, This encompasses business, this encompasses life. There are

1171
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: no rules, but break them at your own peril. And

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01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: I kind of I've always lived like that. I've never

1173
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: been a big rule guy. If I colored within the envelope, fuck,

1174
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sitting here. Promise you that I'm not

1175
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: talking about breaking laws and going to jail. I'm just

1176
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: talking about pushing the envelope. If you're unwilling to push

1177
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: the envelope, you're gonna get lapped. Like it's just a fact.

1178
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: And Harbaugh's willing to do it, no different than Belichick's

1179
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: willing to do it, no different than the Astros. Obviously,

1180
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: some are there different levels of it, steroid, you name it, right.

1181
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: How many people do you think you're going up against

1182
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: in business are on a peace? Are on some form

1183
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: of something. And I don't mean like you're not playing

1184
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: football again. Some I just mean maybe some sort of

1185
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: enhancer to give them energy, like not everyone's just drinking coffee.

1186
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: It's like, how's this guy working all the time? Well,

1187
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: probably not? Just you know Lemon Water, Hey John, longtime

1188
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: miserable Charger fan. Assuming Staley gets fired during or after

1189
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: the season, who do you think the Chargers should look

1190
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: to hire. I'm not opposed to given Kellen a shot,

1191
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: but with the Spanos being cheap, I'm terrified we're gonna

1192
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: hire another guy over his head. Well, I think the

1193
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: big question now is do they fire to Let's go?

1194
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: And I would imagine they do. But to me, that

1195
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: is the game changing question when it comes to the Chargers,

1196
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: because are they starting from scratch? Are they going GM coach?

1197
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: Would they hire a coach that talks down to their

1198
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: GM in the hierarchy? Right? I don't mean like literally

1199
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: professionally right, because before they've had aj Smith, they chose

1200
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: him over Marty. Now they've had to LESCo who's obviously

1201
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: in charge of personnel. The coach is not. That's a

1202
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: huge question, and until we know that, it's hard to know.

1203
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: Do they want a package deal? I don't know. I

1204
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: think they're really at a crossroads. And listen, I make

1205
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: fun of them a lot for being cheap because that's

1206
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: what their history says. I didn't make that up. That

1207
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: wasn't my take. Everyone knows that. But I think the

1208
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: question now is you invested all this into Herbert, are

1209
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: you willing to go the extra mile? Or are you

1210
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: just gonna keep being the butt of people's jokes and

1211
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: the butt of people's jokes like the Raiders were the

1212
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: butt of people's jokes or the Browns for a long

1213
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: time because they always sucked. It's like, what is going

1214
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: on here the chargers of the butt of everyone jokes?

1215
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: Because like, how do you not win? More? Like? You

1216
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: got good players? All the good teams would want your players.

1217
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: How does this happen? And the answer is it starts

1218
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: with ownership. This crossed my mind this weekend and I'm

1219
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: not sure there is a plan in place to address it,

1220
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: but somehow came to reality what the college football Playoff

1221
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: Committee do if Army or Navy were somehow to go

1222
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: undefeated into their Week fifteen matchup after the playoff field

1223
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: had been announced. Always had the same thought for if

1224
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: either team had an outstanding player emerge as a Heisman candidate,

1225
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: ballots would be due Prior to the biggest rivalry game

1226
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: of that player season. Obviously neither team would really be

1227
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: in the mix for the four team playoff, but with

1228
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: the twelve team playoff, you never know. Both these teams

1229
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: absolutely suck right now, but they did each flirt with

1230
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: the rankings in the teams and ranges of the twenty tens.

1231
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: I think there are some things in life that you

1232
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: could argue are so far fetched that you just do

1233
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: a we'll cross that bridge when we come to it,

1234
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: right If that's ever the case an Army or Navy

1235
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: was in the mix as an undefeated team, I think

1236
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: with the twelve team playoff, maybe they just throw them

1237
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: in if one team was legitimately undefeated. But it doesn't

1238
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: feel like they've even come remotely close to that, and

1239
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: obviously they both suck right now. I also think that

1240
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: depending on their schedule on a given year, because they're

1241
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: both independents, right, I think you could just make the

1242
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: argument like you don't deserve it, but like if San

1243
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: Diego State went undefeated, like they're not going to the playoff,

1244
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: And I think one thing's clear, And I saw them

1245
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: interview Jonathan Smith, I think when he got to Michigan State,

1246
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: not like the actual press conference, but just he got

1247
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: off the plane. Some reporters were there and they asked

1248
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: him how long he was thinking about this, and he

1249
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: essentially said a long time. And I think ultimately what

1250
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: he meant was the moment we got asked out of

1251
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: all these conferences. I was done at Oregon State. And

1252
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: this is a guy that played at Oregon State. Think

1253
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: about that. He played quarterback at Oregon State and then

1254
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: became the head coach there. This was his old water

1255
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: Pack twelve. They could they were paying him like five

1256
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: million bucks. But like it's over. I think non Power

1257
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: five teams are done. The separation when I saw that

1258
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: Elco got set, they paid someone seventy five million dollars

1259
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: to go away, and they gave their next coach seven

1260
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. The separation with the TV contracts

1261
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: of the Big ten in the SEC and even the

1262
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: ACC and the Big twelve is gonna wipe Like Fresno State,

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Speaker 1: San Diego State. How are they going to exist? Because

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01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: even if they do get a good player, do you

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: know what I would do if I'm Oregon or USC

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01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: or Texas or Alabama. I'm going to fucking take them.

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01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut the check. I'm gonna what can they

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01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: give you seventy five grand? I'll give you two hundred

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01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: and fifty grand in a scholarship to play on TV

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Speaker 1: with everyone watching. It's just over I truly and listen.

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Speaker 1: I am a product of D one double A. I

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01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: went to I got my start in football at cal Poly.

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: Who's obviously you know D one double A is is

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01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: a low level relative to what we're talking about. Fresne

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01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: State changed my life. And when I was at Fresno,

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01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: Pat Hill took a lot of pride anybody, anytime, anywhere.

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: And the conferences there were five conferences you could schedule.

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: We played with Wisconsin, we played who do we play? Wisconsin? Cincinnati?

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01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: Who else did we play? That was really good and big?

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01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean, but over his ten year Oklahoma, Tennessee, Ohio State,

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01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: Kansas State, you name it, he would play any team

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01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: that would play USC We played UCLA, those teams. To me,

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01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: with the twelve team playoff, I wouldn't even play these

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01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: non power five teams. I just think they're going to

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01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: play each other. And if the television revenue which is

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01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: paying for everything, like the NFL would never play the

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01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: XFL or the UFL, they just play each other. They

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01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: keep all the revenue themselves. Why would you want to

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01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: share any revenue? Like Auburn they lost to New Mexico

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01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: State and they paid them one and a half million dollars.

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01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you just in the future, even if you're

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01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna lose that game, you don't pay anybody anything. You're

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01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: just like, let's just do a home at home with

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01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: fucking Arizona. Why would you play a team that's not

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01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: on your level? Those days are done. I think those schools,

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01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, I'm not saying this would like

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Speaker 1: out of joy. Without Fresno State, there is no chance

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: on God's green Earth. I just I'm sitting here right

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01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: now doing this. No chance none without that program. Who knows.

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01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: Because I graduated in eight into the financial crisis, I

1301
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: didn't even know what was going on. Why Because I

1302
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: lived in this football world where I was just a GA.

1303
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: I didn't make any money anyway, couldn't even tell you

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01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: that it was happening. I mean, I kind of knew,

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01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: but I didn't. It didn't impact me, not that it would.

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01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I made twelve thousand dollars working for Presne State,

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01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: but that set me on a path ultimately to where

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01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here whatever, fifteen years later. And I just

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01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: think those programs, that program was way healthier than than

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01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: now because we had so many NFL plays. How would

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01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: Fresno State have been able to keep Ryan Matthews, Derek Carr,

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01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: Logan Mankins that they couldn't most of the best players

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01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: on those teams. And this speaks for all these little programs.

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01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard, honestly for the mid tier Power

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01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: five teams. Like if you're Kansas State, how do I

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01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: keep you? If I'm if I'm if I'm Georgia or

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01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State or Michigan and I want that player, I can't. Hell,

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01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: if I'm Michigan and you're playing in Iowa, it's like, hey,

1319
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: you want to come here, Ohio State? Hell, that happens now.

1320
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: So I think the big picture, I think Navy and Army,

1321
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: and honestly, I think this should happen. I think those

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01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: teams Navy Army, and I'm a no one grew up

1323
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: in a house that cared about America more than mine.

1324
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: So I am pro I have nothing but respect for

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: the guys that play ball there. And I've been to

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01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 1: that game when I went to the when I worked

1327
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: for Philly, I think my second year. Obviously, I don't

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01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: know where. It kind of goes back and forth between

1329
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: like the Raven Stadium and the Eagles Stadium. I went.

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01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: It was cool as shit, it was awesome, but like

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01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: those teams should not make the playoffs. I'm sorry, they

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: just shouldn't, and I think there should just if you're

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01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 1: not in the Power five. To me, my solution would

1334
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: be simple. Once they do this realignment, and they're gonna

1335
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: end up realigning more, but the Power five teams only

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01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: play the Power five teams. You don't play anybody else.

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01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: And then if you're not in the Power five, but

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01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: you're not d one to ble a right the Fresno

1339
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: State's Boise States Army Navies of the world, you just

1340
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: play each other. And Oregon State Washington State are now that.

1341
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 1: And do you know what sucks is Oregon State and

1342
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 1: Washington State deserve better because they tried it football. Oregon

1343
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: State's coach was the last six years is a baller.

1344
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: That guy Michigan State. I'll promise you this will not

1345
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 1: be that guy's last job. I would stake my claim.

1346
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith's going places once upon a time Washington State

1347
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: was in shambles, and I'll never forget Washington press conference.

1348
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 1: They had this ad who used to be that I

1349
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: think the CEO of like Pizza Hut, business guy rare

1350
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: in UH college athletics. Most of these guys want to

1351
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: be business guys or fun under raisers and they get

1352
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: taken to the woodshed by Jimmy Sexon. I forget the

1353
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: guy's name, but he was asked when he was going

1354
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: on a coaching search. They said, are you going to

1355
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: use one of those committees to help you find a coach?

1356
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: He said, yes, we have a committee. It's committee of

1357
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: one and you're looking at him, and a couple of

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: days later, Mike Leach was their head coach. So over

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: the last decade we've seen Mike Leach turn Washington State

1360
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: into just a legit program and Jonathan Smith win eight

1361
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: to ten games at a program that I got news

1362
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: for you has no business going above five hundred. So

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01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: those teams, because I mean the Big Ten was not

1364
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: going to offer them, just got fucked. Like they care

1365
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: about football, they really try at football, and they have

1366
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: consistently woned football. But they're screwed. I mean it pains

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01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: me to say this because I grew up in a

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01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: town UC Davis is obviously not athletically on that level,

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01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: but kind of similar. You know, I knew a lot

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: of people that farmers, can instruction workers, like blue collar

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: people that were educated. They had college degrees and they

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: went to schools like Washington State and Oregon State. I

1373
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: feel like I know those people, even if I don't

1374
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: know them all, and they're just fucked. From an athletic standpoint,

1375
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: it's over. It's over. Last year they were making I

1376
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: think like thirty five plus give or take a million

1377
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: dollars from the conference. Well the Mountain West past five.

1378
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to fire a lot like the athlete.

1379
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: It's just done, and it sucks. It's not fair. And honestly,

1380
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: I got a little emotional Washington football this weekend. The

1381
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: Oregon State Oregon game and the Washington State Washington game.

1382
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: Those games will never happen. The Civil War and the

1383
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: Apple Cup will never happen again, Like the Egg Bowl,

1384
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,799
Speaker 1: the Iron Bowl, those are gonna continue. Ohio State, Michigan

1385
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: like those aren't gonna stop, USA, UCLA, those games. Like

1386
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: I've been watching football for thirty years, I grew up

1387
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: on those games. I grew up watching these programs, and

1388
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: part of the cool part about having the underdog is

1389
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: sometimes they beat the big dog. I remember when in

1390
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: the driving fog rainstorm, Oregon State took down USC on

1391
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: like a Thursday or Friday night in the peak Carrol Era.

1392
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen Washington State when a lot of

1393
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: upset big games. It sucks. It does, and honestly, it

1394
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: kind of hurts even though I get it. I understand grow,

1395
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: you die, You got to adapt, things change. Business fucking

1396
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: is part of the deal, right, But it did. It

1397
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: was sad. It was sad, but it is what it is.

1398
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 1: The volume