1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 2: Second hour of Playing Buck kicks off right now. Everybody, 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: thank you for being here with us. Govenoran DeSantis of 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Florida will be joining us at the bottom of the hour, 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: so stick around for that. Talk to him about how 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: he thinks campaign's going, and get into some of the 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: important policy questions that we're all thinking about these days, 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: you know, like the economy, what's happening in this country. 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: But I don't often spend we don't often talk. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: Much about what's going on in Ukraine in art because 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: I think, for one, there's a lot of people who 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: have turned this into something that it's not, which is 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: a core and essential American interest abroad. 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: You'll hear this from both Republicans and Democrats, particularly from Democrats, 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: though on the whole Ukraine flags, the number of people 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: who have Ukraine flags and or had Ukraine flags and 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: vaccine needles in their Facebook or Twitter bios or their 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: email signatures really proved I think beyond any doubt that 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: this became the thing that people attached themselves to who 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: are part of the hive mind for a while, but 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: generally speaking, here's how it goes. Celebrities, including Greta Thunberg, 23 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: who is a celebrity. I think she's eighteen years old now, 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: the high Priestess of climate change, no degree of any 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: kind from anywhere, but telling everybody about what to do 26 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: with climate change. I feel badly for any adults who 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: listened to Greta Thunberg and think that that's worth their time. 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: But there are millions and millions of them. She's gone 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: over there though. I can't even think of all the 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: different celebrities who name an annoying left wing actor and 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: he or she has probably gone over to take photos 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: with Zelensky. Because this has been a cause celeb this 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: is something that brings them all together. Well, we were 34 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: told there was going to be a counter offensive against 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: Russia that was going to start pushing Russia back on 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: its heels. And no surprise to those of us who 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: know what the propaganda is in this versus the reality, 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: but Clay, the counter offensive is stalling and in fact, 39 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: meaning the Ukrainian counteroffensive against the Russians is not going 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: as planned. And now we're we're faced with two things. 41 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: One is a decision that hasn't made the other's a 42 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: decision that still could be made. Cluster bombs. We know 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: that cluster bombs can leave behind these bomblets that are 44 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: quite small, and if they do not detonate initially, they 45 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: just are left behind, almost like land mines. They just 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: are dropped on the ground, and then if somebody comes 47 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: by later, you know, a random civilian, a kid, touches one, 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: it blows up and kills that person. That's the reason 49 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: why cluster bombs are banned by so many different international treaties. Well, 50 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: we've decided we're going to give the Ukrainians cluster bombs clay, 51 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: So we're giving them cluster bombs, even though we know 52 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: cluster bombs are a huge humanitarian concern. You know, I'm 53 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: glad we're not, you know, giving them chemical weapons, and 54 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: I'm glad we're drawing some lines here and the critical 55 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: fight for Ukraine. But that's got a lot of people 56 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: raising their ryebrows. So it went from we're just gonna 57 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: give them, Well, it started out with helmets and flack 58 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: vests under Obama to then under Trump it was dragging 59 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: off sniper rifles and anti tank missiles javelin anti tank 60 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: missiles to now it's we're sending them hundreds of billions 61 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: of dollars. I mean, who knows what the actual figure is. 62 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: There's the official budget and the unofficial budget. And on 63 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: top of all this, you've got Lindsey Graham, who is 64 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: out on the campaign trail with Trump. This is always 65 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: amazing to me, Lindsay Graham. People say, they say they 66 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: hate the establishment, and yet they keep voting Lindsey Graham 67 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: back in in South Carolina. You know, I don't know 68 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: what this is. Trump voters are all still coming out 69 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: and voting for Lindsay Graham. But Lindsey Graham says that 70 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: he wants he wants Ukraine to be admitted into NATO, 71 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: which has been the initial redline for all of this. 72 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: And he's saying, yeah, let's go, let's put let's put 73 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: Ukraine into NATO at this point in time, and hope 74 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: Russia doesn't escalate that there create the escalation. We're worried 75 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: about that one move. 76 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: Here's the thing, Buck, there are So this is the 77 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 4: problem with deciding that you're on a side for purposes 78 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: of the media. Okay, when you say, hey, Ukraine and 79 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: Russia are in war and pretty much unabashedly the United 80 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 4: States is on the side of Ukraine. 81 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: Okay. 82 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 4: The child then becomes, how do you get reliable media 83 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: to cover and tell us what is actually. 84 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: Going on when overwhelmingly. 85 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: The media is essentially in a rooting contest, Buck, does 86 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: this makes sense? So it's seen as pro Russia if 87 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: you share the truth, which is this, effectively, we've entered 88 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: into a stalemate and the much ballyhooed Ukrainian counter offensive 89 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: that was to take place this summer has not materialized. 90 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: Ukraine has gained virtually no territory. And so if you 91 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 4: share the factual reality of the on the ground story, 92 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: which is Russia has fortified effectively, it appears a nearly 93 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 4: at this point impregnable defensive position that the Ukrainians are 94 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: having almost no success pushing through. They have filled so 95 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: many land mines and the United States and this is 96 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: a big aspect of this story that is only now 97 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 4: starting to get attention. 98 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: You mentioned the cluster bombs that are going to be used. 99 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 4: Buck, Why is it necessary, because effectively, we've run out 100 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: of war material to even provide to Ukraine. And I 101 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: was reading a good story over the weekend where one 102 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: of the generals said, after five or six days, every 103 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 4: war is just a logistics battle. So the first five 104 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: or six days you can be stocked, you can be supplied, 105 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: you can be ready to go. But after the first 106 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: five or six days, everything is logistics. The logistics are 107 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: these We don't have weapons of traditional nature to be 108 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 4: providing Ukraine because most of our armory is now depleted. 109 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 4: And this is alarming to me, Buck, because what happens 110 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: if China goes in on Taiwan. This is a question 111 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: we've been talking about on this program since the invasion 112 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: initially happened in uk We don't have the war material 113 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 4: to be able to fight in multiple directions. We don't 114 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: have the resources. And yet, Buck, what does it feel 115 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: like so much of our military spends time on we 116 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 4: can't fill our ranks. We're missing all of the numbers 117 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: by twenty five percent I recruiting goals. 118 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, way way below recruiting goals. And what are we sharing? 119 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: Oh, you should be happy to be a trans soldier 120 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: from Admiral Levine and all this other craziness going on. 121 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: It doesn't surprise me at all. Buck, Would you agree 122 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: with this thesis the least woke people in America are 123 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: soldiers as a general role. If you're eighteen years old 124 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: and you are a badass, the more of a badass 125 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: you are, the less woke you are. Would you generally 126 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: agree with that thesis that if you're going to be 127 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: a door kicker, the idea that you're going to be 128 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: concerned about equity and inclusion tends to be low. 129 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: You're speaking about combatants or people that are training for 130 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: and prepared for combat, that's certainly true. Military is a 131 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: very big organization, kind of like the cias of well, 132 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: not nearly as large, but it's also a large organization. 133 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: And there are people that do cool and exciting stuff, 134 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: and there are people who are really good at making 135 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: lattes back at headquarters. So it really depends. 136 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: But in general, when you look at a twenty five 137 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: percent failure on recruiting, the brand of the to me, 138 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: and I could be wrong, the brand of the military 139 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: does not have the appeal that it has had in 140 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 4: past years to be able to fill its recruiting ranks. 141 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: And to me, that's because what it used to be 142 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: the case was the military sold Hey, you can be 143 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: a badass. You can be the best version of yourself 144 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 4: if you join the military, and that had appealed to 145 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 4: a lot of seventeen and eighteen year olds out there 146 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 4: who made the decision to go into military. The Hey, 147 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: you can be your full self and you can be 148 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 4: transgender and join the military, and you can be fatten 149 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: out of shape like Admiral Levine is. That doesn't feel 150 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 4: to me like a oh I want to be a. 151 00:08:59,280 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: Part of that team. 152 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: Do you remember I remember watching I think it would 153 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: even run during you know, Saturday cartoons. I would see 154 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: that commercial. You know it was, you know, in the 155 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: mornings on Saturdays when I was watching whatever I was 156 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: watching as a kid growing up. The Few, the Proud, 157 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: the Marines. You remember that? Oh yeah, I remember seeing 158 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: that and as a kid thinking to myself, Marines, badass heroes, 159 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: want to do it? You know, like it would just 160 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: process in your head. And if you're going to tell people, 161 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 2: give up, you know, first of all, sign away possibly 162 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: you know, your life in defense of your country depends 163 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: on whether we're peace time or in war. But give 164 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: up the prospect of a private sector salary, at least 165 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: for a period of time. Sign yourself up for an 166 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: organization that's going to take away a lot of your 167 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: day to day autonomy certainly, and you know, basic training 168 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: and other periods it has to be. The spree to 169 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: corps is essential. You have to have people thinking there's 170 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: a real there's a purpose to this in the day 171 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: to day that motivates them and and that makes them 172 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: want to be excellent. I mean, the military is really 173 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: supposed to be and it has been traditionally in this 174 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: country about yeah, serving the country, defense of the nation, 175 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: but also achieving excellence, whether you're you know, an airman, infantry, navy, whatever. 176 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: And when you see this messaging out there that the 177 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: Navy is falling or I'm sorry that the military rather 178 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: is succumbing to you know, the social experimentation of the 179 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: left that undermines why people I mean, you know, we need, 180 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: we need young men and women to want to go 181 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: to war for their country because they believe. And if 182 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: you hurt that belief, because you undermine the entity itself 183 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: and you make them feel like the mission is something 184 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: that there aren't, they aren't necessarily going to be proud of, 185 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: or they don't feel like it's reflective of their highest ideals. 186 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: Got a big problem. I mean, you know, we're you 187 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: and I are the nine to eleven generation, right. I 188 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: think of all the people who signed up military. You know, 189 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: we had millions go through rock and Afghanistan, a few 190 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: million veterans. People went and worked in the state departments, CIA, DA, 191 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 2: nctc NSA. I mean, everybody's trying to find bin Laden. 192 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: There's a reason for that. 193 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I think that's one hundred percent right. 194 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: And on your Ukraine point, I think one of the 195 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: challenges is we don't really have an honest media anymore. 196 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 4: By and large, what happens when the bad guy wins buck? 197 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: How does the media cover if you are going to 198 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: say Ukraine is everything that's good and Russia is everything 199 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: that's evil. If you're covering a war between good and evil, 200 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: does the American media have the capability of telling you 201 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: that the evil side might be winning? I don't know 202 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: that we do, and if we aren't informed. As an 203 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 4: American populist with hey, we've spent what's the total now 204 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: on Ukraine? One hundred and fifty billion dollars of our 205 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: taxpayer dollars? Is it way more than that? It's approaching 206 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: a trillion. I think, before all is said and done, 207 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 4: is how much we're gonna spend if basically we've created 208 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 4: trench warfare. The idea that we're going to have some 209 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 4: huge moment of Ukrainian victory doesn't feel very soon. And 210 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 4: if that's not the case, remember how much time have 211 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: you heard out there is you're listening to us, how 212 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: much time did you hear people talk about, Oh, this 213 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 4: coming Ukrainian summer offensive, it's going to change everything. The 214 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: counter offensive. It hasn't worked, nothing's happened so far. 215 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 2: Basically, I said it early on. I said this is 216 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: going to cost a trillion dollars. Yep, it's going to 217 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: cost the United States. When all is said and done, 218 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: we're going to spend a trillion dollars in this war 219 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: in Ukraine. I know that sounds well less crazy now 220 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: than it even did a year ago. But you're looking 221 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: at what one hundred billion a year already, and that 222 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: number could pretty rapidly escalate depending on how things shake out. 223 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: So okay, maybe it's not trillion, maybe it's four or 224 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: five hundred billion. Now now we're talking about a number 225 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: that I think anybody can see how it would get 226 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 2: to that pretty quickly. What exactly are we getting in 227 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: all this? What is the end goal? They don't even 228 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: tell us what the end goal is here. If it's 229 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: every Russian soldier out of every inch of the Dawn 230 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: Bass and Crimea, there's no chance that's going to happen. 231 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: Unless NATO wants to go to war with Russia. The 232 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: Ukrainians will not be able to pull that off. So 233 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 2: if it's not that, what is it? What are we 234 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: trying to accomplish? What are we trying to achieve? What 235 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: would Zelensky be willing to take on behalf of Ukrainian 236 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: autonomy to end the war with Russia? We don't know 237 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: our leaders in a Biden administration. Does anybody think for 238 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: a second that Joe Biden is like the second coming 239 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: of you know, Tali Rand here and he has some 240 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: grand strategy in mind Machiavelli. He is not. He has 241 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: no idea what the hell is going on. He's just 242 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: going to do whatever the system around and tells him 243 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: to do. And they're very powerful voices for the military 244 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: industrial complex that are all in on you know, Slava 245 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: Ukraine and send all the munitions, and all of a 246 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: sudden it becomes very obvious to them, and you know, 247 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: you don't really hear a lot of people I think 248 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: focusing in on the fundamental problem here, Clay, which is 249 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: what are we trying to achieve? What is victory? If 250 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: you don't know what victory is, what are you fighting for? 251 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: They can say, Oh, it's preventing Russian victory. That's not 252 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: enough because then it never ends. 253 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: Also, if you're in Russia, at what point does oh, 254 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: the United States is not actually fighting, but we're providing 255 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: all of the weapon material that's killing tens of thousands 256 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: of Russians. If the United States we're dealing with tens 257 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: of thousands of deaths, would we consider China to not 258 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: be a combatant if China was giving all of the 259 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: weapons to someone that was killing us. We are combatants 260 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: in this war. We got to have boots on the 261 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: ground in a traditional sense, but we're combatants. We are 262 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 4: in this war, and it doesn't feel like it's ending 263 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: anytime soon. And in worse than that, Buck to your point, 264 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like there's an impetus to even figure out. 265 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: What peace might look like. And to me, that's where 266 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: we should be right now. 267 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: Economist and best selling author doctor Nomi Prince has a 268 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: warning for us all. She notes a select group of 269 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: financial elites are plotting a drastic action unlike anything we've 270 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: seen since nineteen seventy one. Who's involved, well, people in 271 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: the White House as well as people associated with the 272 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: World Economic Forum. Even Bill Gates is involved. According to 273 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: her research, our ability to spend, borrow, save, and invest 274 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: could soon be restricted with the push of a button. 275 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: She believes that our financial system is about to be 276 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: transformed in a way that would have been unthinkable just 277 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: a few years ago. And it all starts this month. 278 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: Bank of America is calling it inevitable. 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We got several guests coming your way. 289 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: Jim Covezol who is in starring in a movie that 290 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: is absolutely sweeping the box office. And then Riley Gaines, 291 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 4: former University of Kentucky Swimmer is going to join us 292 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 4: in the in the third hour of the program as 293 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: we continue to roll through here. But I wanted to 294 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: make sure that I said thank you because we are 295 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: now being carried on a brand new affiliate, just starting 296 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:50,119 Speaker 4: today for the very first time. We're now on in Washington, 297 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: d C. And that is we are on a pretty 298 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: fantastic station here one oh four point seven, I believe 299 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 4: the Freedom Station there, which yes, sir, I got it 300 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 4: right right Freedom one oh four point seven. If you 301 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: are in northern Virginia, if you are in Maryland, certainly 302 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 4: if you are in sort of the Beltway in general 303 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 4: in the DC area, we are super excited to be 304 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: on there as as a new beginning in Washington, d C. 305 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 4: Bunch more cities that are going to be announced soon 306 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 4: as we are surging over five hundred affiliates nationwide. That 307 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: is thanks to you guys and your support of this program. 308 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: But we are certainly excited for Washington, d C. The 309 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 4: battle to be who will be in the White House 310 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four in Washington d C heating up up. Next, 311 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 4: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis will join us as he will 312 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: break down the latest on his campaign, also the war 313 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 4: with Disney and how exactly all of that is going. 314 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 4: We will discuss that in great detail with you, But 315 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: I also want to tell you as we break down 316 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: everything there extreme weather conditions this summer. 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Governor of Santis. 335 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for being with us. 336 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 5: Hey, how y'all doing. 337 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: We're good, sir, We're good. Tell us how you feel 338 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: this point in the race. A lot of polls out there, 339 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: a lot of people asking questions. I know you had 340 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: to take some of those questions over the weekend over 341 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: at Fox from Ria Bartiromo. What do you think your 342 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: campaign's doing right? And what are you looking to do 343 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: more of? What are you going to change? 344 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting, it's pretty clear, and not just in 345 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 5: the recent weeks. I mean really, since we won reelection 346 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 5: by so much last November, we have been the target 347 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 5: of the corporate media. They clearly do not want me 348 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 5: to be the nominee. And I think it's because they 349 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 5: know that I would beat Biden soundly. But more importantly 350 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 5: than that, they know that I will actually accomplish the 351 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 5: big things that we know need to be accomplished in 352 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 5: this country. You know, we'll shut down the border, we'll 353 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 5: reverse Biden economics, we'll do all the things that so 354 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 5: many Americans want to see done. So that's all part 355 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: of their narrative and they're going to continue doing that, 356 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 5: you know, no matter what happens. Look, the way we 357 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 5: view it is you're competing an individual contest. There's not 358 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 5: a national primary, there's state by state, and so we've 359 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 5: worked really hard to develop the type of support on 360 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 5: the grassroots level in places like Iowa, New Hampshire, South 361 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: Carolina that really can propel a candidate to victory. I 362 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 5: think we've already announced thirty seven Iowa state legislators, including 363 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 5: some of the leaders in both the House and Senate. 364 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 5: We've got conservative activists, faith leaders, all these important people 365 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 5: that can help bring this message to bear, and so 366 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 5: a lot of over the summer we always anticipated, would 367 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 5: we be doing a lot of that laborious work that 368 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: isn't as newsworthy maybe, but ultimately that's what leads to 369 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 5: I think a winning campaign. And so we're excited about 370 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 5: the progress. We understand that there's a lot more to do, 371 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: but we are focusing on how you actually accumulate the 372 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 5: DEALTHETS rather than kind of the national stuff that gets 373 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 5: put out there, which, as you know, we don't have 374 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 5: a national primary. 375 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 4: I'm sure I know that you even read court opinions. 376 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: I'm told by your staff for fun, which is a 377 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: which is a law school nerd thing that I think 378 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: you've kept up with, and sometimes I do the same. 379 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: And on July fourth, we had I think one of 380 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: the most consequential federal court rulings of the of the 381 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 4: entire COVID era, with the Judge Dowty opinion about Biden 382 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 4: coordination as it pertained to censorship, relating to COVID, relating 383 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 4: to so many different issues as president. How important is 384 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 4: this issue because I actually think it's maybe the most important. 385 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 4: If we can't say what we actually think in our 386 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 4: government's trying to censor us. What did you think of 387 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: that opinion? What needs to happen to keep the federal 388 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: government out of censoring the political opinions of anybody, Democrat, 389 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: Republican or independent in your mind? 390 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 5: Well, the decision was right on target. I mean, as 391 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 5: you guys know, the federal government cannot censor speech. It's 392 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 5: a First Amendment, that's the core of it. And so 393 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 5: we know that, and so just as they could not 394 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 5: do a law to say you can't oppose COVID lockdowns, 395 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 5: or you can't oppose mass mandates. They can't subcontract out 396 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 5: that censorship to private entities. That's still every bit as 397 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: much a violation of the First Amendment if they're doing 398 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 5: indirectly what they cannot do directly. So I don't think 399 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 5: the Court could have come to any other conclusion. Now, 400 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 5: in Florida, we've actually taken legislative action to prevent state 401 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 5: and local government employees from colluding with tech companies or 402 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 5: any media company for the purpose of censoring speech. And 403 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 5: we think that that's an important line in the sand 404 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 5: that needs to be drawn, and you have to hold 405 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 5: people accountable if they cross that line in the sand. 406 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 5: So we will do something similar, maybe we get Congress 407 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 5: to do, but I don't even know if you need 408 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 5: to do that. We will make it very clear that 409 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 5: as president, when you're working with tech companies to try 410 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 5: to stifle dissent, you are abusing your power and you 411 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: are infringing on the constitutional rights of American citizens, and 412 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: you will be shown the door. You got to start 413 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 5: firing these malevolent bureaucrats. You can't just let them continue 414 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 5: to take more and more of our freedom. And I 415 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 5: agree with you guys, this is a fundamental issue because 416 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 5: the Left ultimately wants to dominate every institution in this country, 417 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 5: and they have dominated a lot of them up to 418 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 5: this point, not in Florida because we fought back, but 419 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 5: across the country, and they want to impose an orthodoxy. 420 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 5: And so back during COVID, if you posted an article 421 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 5: in those early days criticizing lockdowns, tech companies would pull 422 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 5: it down. We had one of our YouTube videos. I 423 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: had a panel of eminent scientists, people like doctor Bodicharia 424 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 5: from Stanford early in COVID saying kids needed to be 425 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 5: in school and they should not be forced to mask. 426 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 5: Google YouTube took that video down. So there was a 427 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 5: concerted effort to use massive amounts of power, both corporate 428 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 5: and government, to impose an official narrative on the country. 429 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 5: And first of all, that's just not what a free 430 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 5: society's all about. But it's also, as you guys know, 431 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 5: the official narrative coming out of our elites is almost 432 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 5: always wrong and it's almost always destructive to a healthy society. 433 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: Governor de Santis, Bidenomics is something that's being talked about 434 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: by the regime and power right now, President Biden offering 435 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: up a version of what the economy is. What's your 436 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: sense of what's going on right now in the US economy, 437 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: and what would you do if you were president to 438 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: get things going the way they should be. 439 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 5: So Bidenomics basically means you pay more for everything, your 440 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 5: standard of living goes down, ultimately to the benefit of 441 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 5: places like communist China. But it's important to identify kind 442 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 5: of where all this goes back to. You know, the 443 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 5: root of this was the COVID lockdowns and the fauciism, 444 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: and then they did the massive two trillion dollars spending 445 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 5: plan borrow spending two trillion. In March of twenty twenty, 446 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 5: you had a massive printing of money by the Federal Reserve. 447 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 5: Then December of twenty twenty another two point two trillion. 448 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 5: Then March of twenty twenty one, Biden did two trillion, 449 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 5: and they've done more and more and more. You cannot 450 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 5: inject that much borrowing, printing, and spending into the economy 451 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 5: and not have persistent inflation. So they were warned about 452 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 5: doing this, and yet they barreled ahead with it anyways, 453 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 5: And so this has really been a government induced economic 454 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 5: problem crisis in terms of affordability, and so one of 455 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 5: the things you got to do. One, we're going to 456 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 5: reverse Bidenomics, which is basically the politicization of the economy. 457 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 5: They want things like ESG, they want the Green New Deal. 458 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 5: They want you to have to bend a knee to 459 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 5: left wing ideology to be able to participate in the economy. 460 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: That's not going to work, and it's going to mean 461 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 5: less freedom for everybody in a lower standard of living. 462 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 5: So we will do that, but we've got to ensure 463 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 5: that the Congress is not allowed to spend like drunken sailors. 464 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 5: When they spend at this level, you are just not 465 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 5: going to end up having inflation b where it needs 466 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: to be. We're now fifty percent more in terms of 467 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 5: spending on federal agencies than just twenty nineteen alone. Does 468 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 5: anybody out there feel like they're that much better off? 469 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 5: Because the bureaucracy has grown so much and these agencies 470 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 5: failed agencies like CDC and NIH have been stuffed with 471 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 5: more borrowed money. No, everybody knows this has been a 472 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 5: colossal waste, but it's had huge impact on the economy. 473 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 5: We're also going to open up American domestic energy production. 474 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 5: It's good for our national security to be energy independent. 475 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 5: It's good for our industrial base to be permitting more pipelines, 476 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 5: have more projects underway. It's absolutely good for jobs as well, 477 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 5: and it will help reduce inflation because if you look 478 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 5: about where energy is factored into this, Biden basically squandered 479 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 5: a lot of the strategic petroleum reserve, which artificially kept 480 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 5: the price a little lower than it otherwise would have been. 481 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 5: Time may be running out on that and you may 482 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 5: see spikes and energy and if that's the case, inflation 483 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 5: we'll go back up again. So I think that that's 484 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 5: really really important. And then you also need to rip 485 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 5: out the bureaucratic excess. Yes, part of it is the 486 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 5: weaponization and the deep state, but it's also just a massive, 487 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 5: massive overreach of these bureaucrats where they want to tell 488 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 5: you what kind of car you can drive, they want 489 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 5: to tell you what kind of energy you can use. 490 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 5: With never having stood for election and not accountable to 491 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 5: the American people. It's a distortion of constitutional government. It's 492 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: also terrible for economic growth. 493 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: Last question for you. 494 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: We know you're busy making your case all over the 495 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 4: country front not front page, I don't think, but a 496 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 4: big article in the Wall Street Arnald. The headline is 497 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 4: Disney World hasn't felt this empty in years, says July fourth, 498 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: ten year Low. They're having trouble getting people to show 499 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: up at disney World and disney Land. The movies and 500 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 4: I know you got young kids. The movies that they've 501 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: been putting out, the Pixar movies are collapsing. Even the 502 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: recent Indiana Jones did not do well. Do you think 503 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 4: Disney is getting bud lighted by many people out there 504 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 4: if you were giving them advice on what would make 505 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: sense going forward from a business perspective, It feels to 506 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 4: me like Disney has gone woke and Bob Iger is 507 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: now paying the consequences. 508 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: Do you see it that way? 509 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you, as parents of six, five and 510 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 5: three year old kids, my wife and I really believe 511 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 5: that parents should be able to send their kids to school, 512 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 5: let them watch cartoons without having an agenda shoved down 513 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 5: their throat. That's why we stood up to Disney with 514 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 5: respect to our Parents' Rights and Education Bill, and I 515 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 5: think that it is impacting parents' willingness to want to 516 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 5: take their kids to the Disney stuff. The sad part 517 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 5: about it, guys, is when we were having this fight 518 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 5: with Disney on twenty twenty two, most of the employees 519 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 5: in their Orlando area theme parks they agreed with us. 520 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 5: I want Osciola County for the first time a Republican's 521 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 5: done in a generation by seven percent, which is where 522 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 5: the majority of Disney employees live. So this is really 523 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 5: a cadre of woke executives in Burbank trying to impose 524 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 5: this agenda down on the rest of the company. I 525 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 5: think it's been catastrophic. My advice would just be, look 526 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 5: what made Disney kind of the all American company under 527 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 5: Walt and beyond was a focus on family, a focus 528 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 5: on you know, traditional pro American values. They would never 529 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 5: have wanted to sexualize children the way Disney has gone 530 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 5: down this. So they just have to look in the 531 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 5: mirror understand first of all, it's wrong. Second of all, 532 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 5: people aren't buying this, and it is ultimately to the 533 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 5: detriment of the company. It's in the best interest of 534 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 5: Disney shareholders that they get refocused on their previous core 535 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 5: mission and get the woke out of there. And it 536 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 5: goes beyond when you start talking about kids, because some 537 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 5: of the woke in society is kind of annoying, and 538 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 5: you know, sometimes you just kind of roll your eyes 539 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: when you start talking about our kids. That's when parents 540 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 5: really really rise up and respond. And I think it's 541 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 5: sad that that's the case, but they have no einglely 542 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 5: chosen to go down this road. And I can tell 543 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 5: you in Florida, you know, we're one of the few 544 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 5: places where we've stood up to these woke companies in 545 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 5: defense of parents and children. I get criticized by a 546 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 5: lot of Republicans for having done that, but I'll tell ya, 547 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 5: I would do it again, and it was the right 548 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 5: thing to do. 549 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: Governorana Santis, thanks for being with us, sir, and good 550 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: luck to you out. 551 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: There all right. 552 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 5: Take care, guys. 553 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: Support US funded resources. Phoenix Capitol Group invites you to 554 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: invest in the heart of America with domestic energy corporate bonds. 555 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: With Phoenix Capital, you can connect private investor principle with 556 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: direct investments into my Stic Energy assets. 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I do 570 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 4: think Buck, it's worth hitting again that headline that I 571 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 4: just asked Desantas about. 572 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: Look out below. 573 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 4: If you're a Disney stockholder, stock is basically same price 574 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 4: it has been for nine years, and they now look 575 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 4: the entire business has been held up by amusement park receipts, 576 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 4: the amount of people they've kept charging more and more. 577 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: If your mom or grandma, dad, grandpa, and you've been 578 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: paying to go to Disney World or Disneyland, you know 579 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: what I'm talking about. They've been charging more and more 580 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 4: to help cover up for the fact that their other 581 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: entertainment assets are underperforming in a substantial way, and so 582 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 4: suddenly the fact that the amusement parks are not crowded 583 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 4: is a sign I think that they could be getting 584 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 4: bud lighted. One bit of news out there. The heroic 585 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: in my opinion, District Court judge that we also just 586 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 4: talked about with Ron DeSantis has refused a Judge Dowdy 587 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 4: down in Louisiana has refused the United States government request 588 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 4: that they stay his ruling. In other words, that the 589 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: impact of his finding that there was in fact going 590 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 4: to be major issues with censorship, First Amendment issues, everything else, 591 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: it's been rejected, so it will remain in force. That 592 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: means that the government can't have its meetings right now 593 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 4: with many different big tech companies. So that is again 594 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: another win from Judge Dowdy as he breaks everything down. 595 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 4: Also wanted to play are good friends at the View 596 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 4: and a Navarro? What do you think she ranks on 597 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 4: the dumbness scale on the View? 598 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: Buck? 599 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: How many women are there five you're talking about on 600 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: the view in general? 601 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 602 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 4: Ranking them for stupidity on the view. Like, I think 603 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 4: you would agree with me that Joy Behar is the 604 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 4: dumbest on the View, right, She is the dimmest. 605 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: She is the least. She says the most consistently unintelligible. 606 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: She's right, she's. 607 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: The most ignorant. But she is a comedian, so. 608 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: Your expectation is lower for her. 609 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, not how I would phrase it, but to 610 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: any of the comedians out there. But she's she's not 611 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: meant to know very much. Anna Navarro is supposed to 612 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: be a political consultant. Yes, and so I think there's 613 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: a strong argument you can make that she is actually 614 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: the dumbest. I think that interesting. 615 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Well, so she is now claiming Buck that 616 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: she drives around in Florida with the window down, leaning out, screaming. 617 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: We say gay when she visits Florida. Listen to this. 618 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 6: It wasn't me in New Hampshire streaming we say gay. 619 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 6: I want to have I try to do it every 620 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 6: time I'm anywhere near Rond de Santas or any of 621 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 6: his people. I just like, I go around like a 622 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 6: dog in Florida with my head outside of my car. 623 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: We say gay. 624 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 6: We say hey, we say. 625 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 4: I mean this is you live in Miami, Buck, It's 626 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 4: I think that gay people are are not safe in Florida. 627 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 4: Like this is one of the craziest things that's out there, 628 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 4: is this idea that gay people are somehow unsafe or 629 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 4: or unable to live their lives in Florida. 630 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: I mean, Miami has one of the most uh uh 631 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 2: storied and thriving gay communities of certainly any southern city 632 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: or you know, south of you, south of the Masons. 633 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 4: The West is basically the gayest town in America. Yeah, 634 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 4: oh yeah, there's there's also Key West. I was thinking 635 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 4: of Miami South Beach, but yeah, and the Claient. 636 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: It's this notion that there's an assault on gay people 637 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 2: in Florida. Is it's so it's so wrong. It's not 638 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: even enough to just say it's wrong. It's it's an 639 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: anti truth. It's the exact it's the far opposite of 640 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: the truth, Like there's no substance to it whatsoever. And 641 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 2: so therefore to say it is to really undermine the ability, 642 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: I think of anyone to take anyone on the view 643 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: seriously at all. I mean, if they could in the 644 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 2: first place, which I guess they probably. 645 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's referencing, I think the allegation that at 646 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 4: the July fourth Parade in New Hampshire that Ron DeSantis 647 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 4: and Casey DeSantis walked in. Some people screamed, like, we 648 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 4: say gay, but there is no prohibition on saying it. 649 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 4: This is when it's such a good point by you there, Buck. 650 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 4: It's like the NAACP's travel band when they said, oh, 651 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 4: if you're black, you're not safe in Florida, and Florida 652 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 4: has a huge black population and people of all races 653 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 4: travel to Florida all the time. This was just a 654 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 4: total lie and the idea that gay people are in 655 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 4: some way not accepted or you aren't able to say gay. 656 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 4: It's as big a lie as the as the imaginary 657 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 4: book bands that they complain about as well. But it's 658 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 4: hard to argue with people who don't live in reality 659 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 4: play and democrats don't live in reality