1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: Karen, we start with big tech and a big number, 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 3: six hundred and fifty billion dollars. That is how much 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: for the biggest US tech companies plan to spend this 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: year on capital expenditures. Bloomberg News has calculated the spending 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: plan by Alphabet Meta platforms, Microsoft and Amazon will set 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: a high water mark for spending by any single corporation 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: in any one of the last ten years. Shares in 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 3: Amazon fell after the e commerce joint announced its latest 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 3: earnings and plans to spend two hundred billion this year 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: on AI, data centers, chips and other equipment. CEO Andy 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: Jasse says the money will predominantly go to the company's 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: cloud unit, and most of that spending. 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: Will be for AI workloads. 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: Speaking on the earnings call, Jasse said, it will be 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: worth it will at this what's happening. 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 5: It's kind of unbelievable if you look at the demand 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 5: of what you're seeing already with AI, but the lion's 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 5: share of that demand is still you have to come 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 5: in the middle of that barbell and that will come 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 5: over time. 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: And Amazon shares are down almost eight percent after Andy 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: Jesse spoke with the spending you set the weigh on profits. 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: Punham Goil covers Amazon for Bloomberg Intelligence, they need. 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 6: To invest right. We know that Amazon has to continue 28 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 6: to invest in cloud services, it needs to invest in AI. 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 6: So there's a lot of catchup that needs to be 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 6: done here. I think the long run narrative here is 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 6: still good. The underlying results were solid across both aws 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 6: and retail. 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: And Bloomberg Intelligence analysts. Punum Goyle knows that some of 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: Amazon's capital expenditures will go toward its effort to compete 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: with SpaceX's Starlink Internet service by placing satellites in low 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: Earth orbit and. 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: Karen the AI disruption trade has the S and P 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: five hundred on track for its worst weeks. And it's 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: April and the risk off mood has extended to crypto 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: as well. Let's get the market roundup from Bloomberg's John Tucker, 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: Johnky morning, Yeah. 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 7: Nathan, this is not unlike that deep seat sell off 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 7: a year ago. Investors haven't spooked by developments on a 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,279 Speaker 7: couple of fronts. The rollout of those models from Anthropic 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 7: that threaten to make software services redundant, alongside the eye 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 7: watering spending plans of the big tech companies who are 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 7: just mentioning now the Tech having nasty Composite Index now 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 7: a three percent year to day loss. The risk off 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 7: mood it did extend to bitcoin. The selling picked up 50 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 7: the steam this week, in line with the unwinding of 51 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 7: leverage bets and broader market turbulence. No Bel laureate Paul 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 7: Krugman sees a possible crisis of faith in crypto. 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 8: I think it's a big wake up for people. 54 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: You know, maybe this isn't actually going to be an 55 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: enduring asset. 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 7: We'll sell off briefly dragged bitcoin to a more than 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 7: fifty percent retreat from the October peak. Just yesterday, investors 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 7: pulled four hundred and thirty four million dollars from US 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 7: exchange traded fund for bitcoin, and now this morning, stock 60 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 7: features are modestly higher and bitcoin is on four percent 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 7: close to sixty six thousand dollars a token. In New 62 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 7: York on John Tucker Bloomberg. 63 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: Radio, all right, John, thank you, let's turn to geopolitics now. 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: At Alman said it mediated indirect talks between Iran and 65 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: the United States Severtran's nuclear program. 66 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 6: In a post on x. 67 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: Oman said, it's Foreign minister met separately with Iranian Foreign 68 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: Minister Abbasaragachi, then with US MIDI Special Envoy Steve Wikoff 69 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: and Jared Kushner. President Trump's son in law, Bloomberg Economics 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: defense lead Beka Wasser tells Bloomberg Balance of Power. She 71 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: has some concerns. 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 8: I am most certainly not optimistic, and I think some 73 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 8: of that is because of the firepower that we've seen 74 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 8: massed in the region at this point in time. We've 75 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 8: also seen Iran engage in some risky behavior, whether that 76 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 8: is an attempt to seize a US flag tanker or 77 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 8: whether that is having a drone buzz near the US 78 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 8: carrier in the Middle East. 79 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: And Becca Wesser is defense lead for Bloomberg Economics. The 80 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: talks come after a chaotic week that initially saw plans 81 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: for regional countries to take part in talks in Turkey Karen. 82 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: President Trump is calling for the creation of a new 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: nuclear arms treaty with Russia as its existing New Start 84 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: agreement expires. A post on Truth Social the president writes quote. 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 3: Rather than extend New Start, we should have our nuclear 86 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: experts work on a new, improved, and modernized treaty that 87 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: can last long into the future. Former Republican Congressman Patrick 88 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: McHenry thinks it's a good idea. 89 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 9: I think we haven't addressed nuclear disarmament in over a 90 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 9: generation here in the United States. I think it's worthwhile endeavor. 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 9: I think the complexity of this administration's foreign policy is 92 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 9: not well understood by the market. Everything is interconnected Russia, 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 9: the Middle of East, China, Russia, Ukraine, Middle East, China, Canada. 94 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 9: All the trade conversations, all the foreign policy and Department 95 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 9: of War actions, They're all connected. 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: Former Republican Congressman Patrick McHenry is now Bloomberg News contributor. 97 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: He spoke on Bloomberg's Bounce of Power as well, noting 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: that Newstart was the last remaining major arms control treaty 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: between the US and Russia. 100 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Nathan, a top Russian military intelligence officer, was wounded 101 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: in an assassination attempt in Moscow. According to the country's 102 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: Investigative Committee, Lieutenant General Vladimir Alexeyev was hospitalized after a 103 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: gunman fired several shots that'side a residential building in northwest Moscow. 104 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: Alexeyev is first deputy head of a gru military intelligence agency. 105 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: Turning to Washington now Karen, President Trump is looking to 106 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: address American's cost of living concerns through a new online portal. 107 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 10: Starting tonight, dozens of the most commonly used prescription drugs 108 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 10: will be available at dramatic discounts for all consumers throughout 109 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 10: a new website is called trump rx dot gov. 110 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: Speaking at a primetime White House event, President Trump said 111 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: more than forty medications will be available on the site, 112 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: including Nova Nordisk's ozembic and wagov for one hundred and 113 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 3: ninety nine dollars, as well as emd Serono's fertility treatment. 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 10: For example, a single dose of the most common IVF 115 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 10: drug in the country, gonal F, will plummet from the 116 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 10: highest price in the developed world that we paid. The 117 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 10: United States was subsidizing everybody. We paid the highest to 118 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 10: the lowest price in the world. 119 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: President Trump's new website will get around the pharmacy benefit 120 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: managers that go between drug makers and insurance companies. Farmer 121 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: companies say the current system forces them to charge more 122 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: and limit patient access, but it remains to be seen 123 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: whether Trump RX will significantly bring down costs and entice 124 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: more Americans to buy direct rather than through insurance. 125 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 6: Well. 126 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: Staying with politics here, Nathan. The race in New Jersey 127 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: between a one time political director for Senator Bernie Sanders 128 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: and a former congressman was too early to call in 129 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: a special House Democratic primary for a seat that was 130 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: vacated after Mikey Cheryl was elected governor. Former Representative Tom 131 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: Melanowski started election night with a significant lead over Anna 132 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: Lilya Mahia, based largely on early results from mail in ballads. 133 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: The margin narrowed as results from votes cast that day. 134 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: We're tallied more than sixty one thousand votes counted. Mahia 135 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: leeds Melanowski by four hundred and eighty six, or less 136 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: than one percentage point. 137 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: Kay, Let's update you now on the search for Nancy Guthrie, 138 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: the mother of NBC Today's Show host Savannah Kind of three, 139 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: who was last seen at her home Saturday night. Earlier 140 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: this week, Savannah made an emotional plea to her mother's 141 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: apparent kidnapper at Arizona. This morning, Savannah's brother, Cameron made 142 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: an appeal of his own. 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 11: This is Cameron Guthrie. I'm speaking for the Guthrie family. 144 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 11: Whoever is out there holding our mother, we want to 145 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 11: hear from you. We haven't heard anything directly. We need 146 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 11: you to reach out and we need a way to 147 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 11: communicate with you so we can move forward. But first 148 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 11: we have to know that you have our mom. We 149 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 11: went to talk to you and we are waiting for contact. 150 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: Nitharties in Arizona have not identified any suspects or persons 151 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: of interest, but tests show blood found on Nancy Guthrie's 152 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: front porch does match her DNA. Investigators have found no 153 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: proof that Savannah Guthrie's mother is still alive five days 154 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: after she was taken from her home in Tucson over 155 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: the weekend. 156 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: Time now for look at some of the other stories 157 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: making news in New York and around the world, and 158 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: from that, we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 159 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 4: Michael, good morning, Good morning, Karen. The northeast, including New 160 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: York City. We'll get a brief touch of snow this 161 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: weekend before a frigid blast of Arctic air pushes through 162 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: the region. Bloomberg minegrologist Rob Carolyn has the latest. 163 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 12: Michael, We've got one more blast of arcticare to get 164 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 12: through here in the Tristate area before temperature start to 165 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 12: moderate during next week. National Weather Service has an extreme 166 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 12: cold warning and effect for the Tristate area from ten 167 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 12: am Saturday morning through one one pm Sunday afternoon. We're 168 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 12: also under a wind advisory Saturday morning through midnight on Sunday. 169 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 12: So not only do we get the Arctic air moving in, 170 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 12: but it's going to be a company by some very 171 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 12: strong wins that's going to push the windshills well below zero. 172 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 12: At times Saturday night and Sunday morning, you'll feel like 173 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 12: it's twenty to twenty five below. I'm Rob Carolyn Bloomberg Radio. 174 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: Thank you, sir. Archbishop Designate Ron Hicks will officially take 175 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: over the Archdiocese of New York today. An installation mass 176 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 4: will formally mark the beginning of his leadership. Hicks spoke 177 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: at a news conference Thursday from Saint Patrick's Cathedral. 178 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 13: You're going to notice that I will reference the number 179 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 13: of time Pope Leo the fourteenth. I will strive always 180 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 13: to be obedient and respectful to him and also collaborate 181 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 13: with his vision. 182 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: Hicks succeeds Timothy Cardinal Dolan. Democratic lawmakers responded with anger 183 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: over reports that President Donald Trump told Senate Minority Leader 184 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer last month he would release sixteen billion dollars 185 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 4: in federal funds for the Gateway Tunnel project in exchange 186 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: for renaming of New York's Penn Station and Washington's Dulles 187 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: International Airport after him. According to several media outlets, Schumer 188 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 4: reportedly told the President that he did not have the 189 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: power to approve the request. The Gateway Development Commission has 190 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: warned that it must stop work today on the New 191 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: York New Jersey Tunnel project under the Hudson River unless 192 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: the Department of Transportation immediately releases federal funding tied to 193 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 4: the project. Global News twenty four hours a day and 194 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 4: whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News. Now, I'm 195 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg here. 196 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: Well, thanks Michael. 197 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: A time now for our Bloomberg Sports update, and for 198 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: that we bring in John stash Hour. 199 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 14: It's darn NFL Awards night ahead of Sunday Super Bowl 200 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 14: the in San Francisco. Matthew Stafford named NFL MVP. The 201 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 14: Rams quarterback at age thirty seven through over forty seven 202 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 14: hundred yards forty six touchdowns. Garrett name defensive Player of 203 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 14: the Year after setting a new sacks record. Mike Rabel 204 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 14: name Coach of the Year. Sunday, he'll coach the Patriots 205 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 14: of the Super Bowl against Seattle. From baseball, Tarrek Scooble 206 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 14: won his arbitration case against the Detroit Tigers. He'll make 207 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 14: thirty two million. That's a Bloomberg Sports updates. 208 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg day Break coming up 209 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: after this. 210 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 211 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 212 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business opp This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 213 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: Good morning on Nathan Hager. It is a staggering number. 214 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: Six hundred and fifty billion dollars is how much the 215 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: four biggest tech companies plan to spend this year in 216 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: the race for AI dominance. We learned last night Amazon 217 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: alone accounts for nearly a third of that at two 218 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: hundred billion, raising questions once again but for investors about 219 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: whether the payoff from AI is going to catch up 220 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: with all that spend. Joining us this morning is Parmie 221 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 3: Olsen Tech columnists for Bloomberg Opinion, these concerns you share. Parming, 222 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: good morning. 223 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 15: Hi, good morning. 224 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 10: Yeah. 225 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 15: I mean we've obviously been seeing big tech companies spending 226 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 15: a lot on AI and the infrastructure to build AI 227 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 15: over the last twelve to twenty four months, so this 228 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 15: is nothing new. But I think what we're really starting 229 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 15: to see and what really intrigues me about this is 230 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 15: this kind of almost an identity shift for these companies, 231 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 15: because if you think about why they're so valuable in 232 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 15: the first place, it's that they're asset light, right, like, 233 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 15: they have a lot of staff, and they maybe have 234 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 15: some data centers, but then they build this incredibly valuable 235 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 15: software and they have incredible margins. Now they're becoming these 236 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 15: kind of capital intensive infrastructure operators. They're almost like telecoms 237 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 15: now with all this CAPEC spending. So it does feel 238 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 15: like this is a gradual shift, and we're seeing it 239 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 15: continue to happen, and there's definitely going to be some 240 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 15: kind of questioning in the market about whether they deserve 241 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 15: these premium valuations when they are spending quite so much. 242 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's interesting to see how the reaction has 243 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: played out just through this earning season. When meta platforms 244 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: reported how much they were going to spend, the markets 245 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 3: seemed to like it. Not so much for the rest 246 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: of these names so far. 247 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 14: What do you make of that? 248 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 15: It's you know, with everything that's happened in the market 249 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 15: this past week, and we can talk about the trigger 250 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 15: from anthropic as well, it's so hard to you know, 251 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 15: identify exactly why markets move the way they do, as 252 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 15: I'm sure you know. And let's also just point to 253 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 15: the irony here that over the past six months to 254 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 15: a year, the markets have been so. 255 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 13: Fraught and volatile. 256 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 15: We've had huge wobbles over concerns that AI is just 257 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 15: completely overhyped, and then now we've got this you know, 258 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 15: trillion dollar wipeout for any stock that is potentially an 259 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 15: AI's path. So it's kind of like, I think we're 260 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 15: trying to figure out what the balance is here and 261 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 15: it could go either way. 262 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk a little bit more about that anthropic 263 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: news in our last thirty seconds here. We have the 264 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: legal tool earlier this week and now a new AI 265 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: tool for financial research. Are we seeing the same kind 266 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: of reaction in the market to this latest tool for anthropic. 267 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 15: Yes, we are, but it's so strange because the actual 268 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 15: tool is not framed, even by Anthropic as being aimed 269 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 15: at finance as a general improvement on claud Opus, both 270 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 15: for enterprise workflows and for agents and for coding as well. 271 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 15: But I think somehow the market is just picked up 272 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 15: on the financial element and it's quite you know, these companies, 273 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 15: again going back to the unpredictability of all this. Anthropic 274 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 15: even inside the company didn't know that their other feature, 275 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 15: claud Code, was going to be so devastating to programming 276 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 15: and that so many programmers would use it. They didn't 277 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 15: even predict that the latest legal plugin that they announced 278 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 15: on Friday, was very quietly released, would have such an 279 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 15: impact on enterprise software shares. 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