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Speaker 2: it's Tuesday. This is it, guys. One week. We're at
Speaker 2: the seven day mark with dueling speeches today from the
Speaker 2: two candidates. We're going to be talking about both of
Speaker 2: them with Denver Riggleman in a moment as we survey
Speaker 2: the landscape here. President Biden, Yes, Joe Biden is still
Speaker 2: the president. We'll be in Baltimore today delivering remarks on
Speaker 2: his Investing in America agenda as the two candidates take
Speaker 2: different paths. Kamala Harris staying here in Washington. This is
Speaker 2: an idea that's generated some controversy. Why aren't you in
Speaker 2: a swing state? She'll be on the ellipse, of course,
Speaker 2: conjuring images of January sixth, in a speech that seems
Speaker 2: to be pivoting into something more optimistic, talking about her
Speaker 2: overall agenda, drawing distinctions between herself and Donald Trump, Who's
Speaker 2: going to be in Allentown, which is very curious today.
Speaker 2: I believe the largest Latino population in Pennsylvania in Allentown.
Speaker 2: As remarks from Madison Square Garden catch fire, and the
Speaker 2: campaign finds itself playing defense again. Here we are with
Speaker 2: a real contrast, but polls that are tied. Denver. Riggleman
Speaker 2: is with us in Washington, of course for congressman, former
Speaker 2: Republican congressman and also one of the forces behind Republicans
Speaker 2: for Harris. You're in town to see this thing unfold
Speaker 2: on the ellipse, aren't you welcome? I am in the studio. Well,
Speaker 2: thank you for having me. Yeah, I am.
Speaker 3: It's what a I know we were talking a little
Speaker 3: bit beforehand, but what a full circle for me from.
Speaker 2: The January sixth investigation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how it started on the ellipse right
Speaker 3: with Donald Trump, and here here I am going to
Speaker 3: be there with Republicans.
Speaker 2: For Harris, it's just a so what's going through your mind?
Speaker 2: And what do you think about this argument over her
Speaker 2: choice of venue, the Optics. A week out when she
Speaker 2: could be talking about the economy in Michigan, she's here
Speaker 2: in Washington bringing people back to a dark moment in
Speaker 2: our history.
Speaker 3: I think, after Madison Square Garden, what you saw at
Speaker 3: the rally, I think this is a brilliant move. You know,
Speaker 3: I was thinking about this a little bit myself, but
Speaker 3: after the MSG debacle, if you want to call it that,
Speaker 3: I think what she's doing here, she's saying that American
Speaker 3: needs to come together and in a place right where
Speaker 3: the constitutions maybe it's strongest is right here at the
Speaker 3: seat of power of the United States and Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: So I think it's actually a master stroke after what
Speaker 3: happened in Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 2: Interesting, this speech appears to be evolving. Maybe you can
Speaker 2: even speak to this with your sources and your partners.
Speaker 2: I guess in the campaign, worries that she would paint
Speaker 2: this dark picture and talk about Trump more than her
Speaker 2: own ideas as a potential president of the United States.
Speaker 2: Now this is shifting to Optics, to say, hey, but
Speaker 2: maybe people could picture her in this office instead of
Speaker 2: talking about Trump, she could talk optimistically about the economy,
Speaker 2: her to do list versus his enemies list. That's not
Speaker 2: the narrative that we were hearing even a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago. Is it the right direction?
Speaker 3: I think so? Again, you know, it seems that I
Speaker 3: think if you're a consultant, you look at the campaign again,
Speaker 3: after Basket Square going like well, one of the biggest
Speaker 3: cell phones and self inflicted October surprises ever might have
Speaker 3: happened at Madison Square Garden, why don't we present a
Speaker 3: vision of goodness right, a future, a message that says, hey,
Speaker 3: we can go forward from this. We are not this,
Speaker 3: And I think that's where she's going now. And again,
Speaker 3: you've got to be able to flex. You know, I've
Speaker 3: been in a couple campaigns. Then you've got to be
Speaker 3: able to flex to what your opponent is doing. And
Speaker 3: if your opponent is destroying themselves, I think you start
Speaker 3: to present that positive message, your economic outlook and how
Speaker 3: you can differ entry differentiate yourself from somebody like Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting. So you've watched this thing unfolded Madison
Speaker 2: Square Garden. It sounds like five plus hours jokes I
Speaker 2: can't tell on the air. Some of them have been
Speaker 2: told on the air and have have caused a real
Speaker 2: reaction in the Puerto Rican community, in the Latino community
Speaker 2: for good reason. We heard from JD. Vance though, that
Speaker 2: people need to learn to take a joke essentially. And
Speaker 2: I wonder your thoughts on this idea of going too
Speaker 2: far with PC versus having respect for people in their backgrounds.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I was watching some comics actually
Speaker 3: debate this, and all of them said, what is this
Speaker 3: punching down racism stuff?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: So I think I think racism is very difficult to
Speaker 3: joke around, especially when you're calling an entire an, entire
Speaker 3: people Puerto Rican's, you know, an island of garbage, right.
Speaker 3: I think that's that's something that's not really a joke.
Speaker 3: That's something that's been part of their DNA for some time.
Speaker 3: I never knew that David Duke would be the magim
Speaker 3: visionary right from the beginning, based on the jokes that
Speaker 3: you saw out there. And I think that's what bothers
Speaker 3: people that were former Republicans or Republicans for Harris. They're
Speaker 3: saying a party that's completely I would say it's just
Speaker 3: been besieged and saturated with racism and nativism.
Speaker 2: The campaign condemned the garbage Island, whatever line. Should they
Speaker 2: have gone further because there were a lot of other
Speaker 2: people up there saying a lot of other things.
Speaker 3: Oh it was so I mean, I mean calling Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris the Antichrist is always one that was one which
Speaker 3: I have been called the tool of the Antichrist. I
Speaker 3: haven't gotten to Antichrist completely, but I've been called the
Speaker 3: tools once again.
Speaker 2: So now the Republicans with.
Speaker 3: Harris, we're very close. So but you know, for me,
Speaker 3: I think looking at at what you're saying with the
Speaker 3: name calling, I think it's just something that has just
Speaker 3: happened over and over again to the point now they
Speaker 3: can be out and out racist. But Jadie Vance doesn't
Speaker 3: seem to be following the campaign's messaging about apologizing for it.
Speaker 3: It's like, can you just take a joke and think
Speaker 3: about the person that they had on there. That's somebody
Speaker 3: that liked to you know, just a just an awful
Speaker 3: human being. And I think that's and somebody who's been
Speaker 3: a social with some bad folks.
Speaker 2: I just don't get it. Hulk Hogan was part of
Speaker 2: the picture, the gentleman who they had up there to do.
Speaker 2: I guess a live art piece opened with a message
Speaker 2: to the art world, which was his middle finger. The
Speaker 2: contrast I go back to is great here. How is
Speaker 2: this tiede fifty to fifty? Is it simply the state
Speaker 2: of America tied fifty to fifty? I think it is.
Speaker 2: I mean I people are confused about these candidates.
Speaker 3: They can't be confused about these candidates. And now it's
Speaker 3: to a point that when you're talking about the disassociation
Speaker 3: of reality from a lot of the people who are
Speaker 3: voting for Trump, you're also talking about a morality issue. Now,
Speaker 3: now it's not about the morality of Trump. Maybe again,
Speaker 3: it's about the morality of US as a nation. And
Speaker 3: at some point, when are we going to stop a
Speaker 3: nativist individual who said the things that he's done. But
Speaker 3: let's cut to the chase here. Somebody that's been found
Speaker 3: guilty or been found liable for sexual abuse, somebody who's
Speaker 3: a felon, somebody who said he would pardon JA six individuals,
Speaker 3: which again is why I'm glad Kamala Harris is doing
Speaker 3: that tonight. How are we voting for somebody like this,
Speaker 3: And again it goes back to I think some more
Speaker 3: traditional old school Republicans don't understand it.
Speaker 2: So Denver Riggleman just said it out loud. Right. We
Speaker 2: choose the people who represent us. This isn't the other
Speaker 2: way around here, and we need to remember that when
Speaker 2: we wonder why the nation is going in the direction
Speaker 2: it is on either side. I want to ask you
Speaker 2: about something that was said at Madison Square Garden that
Speaker 2: doesn't involve insults. Oh, oh my goodness, there were a
Speaker 2: couple of Look that, by the way, Donald Trump. Nobody
Speaker 2: talks about what Trump said that night. It was everyone
Speaker 2: before him. He talked about the Speaker of the House
Speaker 2: who had a speaking role, Mike Johnson, and a secret
Speaker 2: he suggested they share. Let's bring everyone back to New
Speaker 2: York the other night with me.
Speaker 5: We got to get the congressman elected, and we got
Speaker 5: to get the senators elected because we can take the
Speaker 5: Senate pretty easily.
Speaker 6: And I think with our little secret, we're going to
Speaker 6: do really well with the House. Right our little secret
Speaker 6: is having a big impact. He and I have a secret.
Speaker 6: We'll tell you what it is when the race is over.
Speaker 2: Do you know what it is.
Speaker 3: I guess the secret wasn't racism during a rally. That
Speaker 3: wasn't the secret, because that's out. But I think somebody
Speaker 3: who's looked at everything that could happen when you're talking
Speaker 3: about election probabilities or those trying to disenfranchise voters or
Speaker 3: at the state local county levels, what's happening right with
Speaker 3: the election, or what could happen in Congress with rejecting
Speaker 3: the electors. I don't think there's really a lot of
Speaker 3: secrets left really that they could play unless it was
Speaker 3: a cell phone that you saw at Madison Square Gardens.
Speaker 3: So you know, everybody I think wants to conjecture, you know,
Speaker 3: or they want to a pine that maybe it's about,
Speaker 3: you know, trying to throw the actual election to the
Speaker 3: House of Representatives.
Speaker 2: Is it as simple as that it might be?
Speaker 3: But I do think that I wouldn't worry as much
Speaker 3: about the secret that he's talking about, with all the
Speaker 3: factors and all the courses of action or all the
Speaker 3: things that could happen anyway, based on what happened on
Speaker 3: January sixth, and what you've been hearing from people for
Speaker 3: the past four years in the MAGA wing of the GOP.
Speaker 2: You might have seen the Siena College New York Times
Speaker 2: poll to put the race at a tie a couple
Speaker 2: of days ago. There was an important number in this
Speaker 2: circle that I suspect would resonate with you. Nearly half
Speaker 2: of all likely voters, forty six percent say the former
Speaker 2: president was acting within the bounds of his authority when
Speaker 2: he tried to overturn the results of the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: election forty six percent. That is an increase from the
Speaker 2: thirty nine percent of voters who said the same in
Speaker 2: July of twenty twenty two. He has succeeded in standing
Speaker 2: down the edges on this narrative. A lot of people
Speaker 2: think that he was within his rights to do this
Speaker 2: and did not stoke the violence that we saw at
Speaker 2: the capitol. What do you make of that?
Speaker 3: What I make of at first is I think the
Speaker 3: disinformation propaganda arm of social media and alternative media. Alternative
Speaker 3: media is so very strong. I think democrats, independents, center
Speaker 3: right individuals even I think they underestimate the power of
Speaker 3: the far right maggat ecosystem in a way that they
Speaker 3: can message. I also believe that there's some complicity here
Speaker 3: with individuals afraid to bluntly call out what happened on
Speaker 3: January six is coup like movements to take over our government.
Speaker 3: And it is incredible to me that when you have
Speaker 3: two parties you do have to align. If you say, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a Republican no matter what, you're
Speaker 3: going to fall into that line that somehow this was
Speaker 3: just a peaceful day, a day of love, is that
Speaker 3: he's trying to present it now in January sixth, and
Speaker 3: it's absolutely ludicrous. And I think one of the things
Speaker 3: that we have to fight as we go forward is
Speaker 3: this massive disinformation surge from domestic and foreign sources.
Speaker 2: But it's education.
Speaker 3: I think ignorance is maybe one of our biggest threats
Speaker 3: to the United States right now. And I don't want
Speaker 3: to go so far as to say stupidity is our
Speaker 3: biggest threat, but I think it's getting there.
Speaker 2: You're living on the road for the next couple of days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, well, I'm here for
Speaker 3: the Ellipse speech, and you know I've been asked to
Speaker 3: do something special. I think it's a bit of a secret.
Speaker 2: I told you.
Speaker 3: I think I got to keep that under the hood
Speaker 3: with somebody very funny what I might be.
Speaker 2: Doing right, let me know when we can make that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to do that, because you know,
Speaker 3: I've been asked to be with somebody incredibly talented and
Speaker 3: funny to make fun of some of the things that
Speaker 3: Juliani might have done in his past. If somebody wants
Speaker 3: to guess at that. But and it's going to be
Speaker 3: very bad for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: But you're going to do something.
Speaker 3: H No, I wish stop it, Joe, So I think,
Speaker 3: but I think that you know, what we're talking about
Speaker 3: is me trying to be on as many media channels
Speaker 3: as I can be Listen. I don't know spinning facts
Speaker 3: at this point is the right thing, but I'm going
Speaker 3: to continue to do it because that's what we have
Speaker 3: to be as Americans and as somebody who's represented the
Speaker 3: United States. I have to make sure that I spit facts,
Speaker 3: make sure we support the person who's going to support
Speaker 3: the Constitution.
Speaker 2: He's the founder of rig Security, former Republican congressman. I'll
Speaker 2: be thinking of you tonight while.
Speaker 3: I watched that We're rigged technology now big technology technology
Speaker 3: and verrig in the flesh.
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Speaker 2: Knowing that Kamala Harris has been spending a lot of
Speaker 2: time in swing states and most recently in Pennsylvania on
Speaker 2: Sunday while Donald Trump was at Madison Square Garden, appealing
Speaker 2: to young voters of color, This is something that we
Speaker 2: talked about with Mark Morriol in the late edition of
Speaker 2: Balance of Power yesterday. This is in advance of a
Speaker 2: conversation we're going to have with Derek Johnson from the
Speaker 2: NAACP out with their final poll before the election, against
Speaker 2: the backdrop of a narrative that Kamala Harris is struggling
Speaker 2: to maintain and win over the support of young men
Speaker 2: of color. This is something that Mark Morreol took issue with,
Speaker 2: as we heard here on Bloomberg TV and Radio. Let's listen.
Speaker 7: There is no doubt, no doubt in this instance, many
Speaker 7: black men whose votes are competitive, who are up for grabs,
Speaker 7: and so Kamala Harris has got to earn those votes
Speaker 7: by educating people about both her platform, her stance, and
Speaker 7: her record.
Speaker 8: So as we consider those votes, as Joe alluded to,
Speaker 8: we do have new pulling data out from the NAACP
Speaker 8: which actually finds that Donald Trump support among Black men
Speaker 8: under the age of fifty is dwindling, dropping from twenty
Speaker 8: seven percent when they asked the same question in a
Speaker 8: survey last month to now twenty one percent. In the meantime,
Speaker 8: Kamala Harris's support among this block has jumped from fifty
Speaker 8: one percent to fifty nine percent over that same timeframe.
Speaker 8: So for more on what's really going on here with
Speaker 8: this important demographic, we turn to Derek Johnson, the president
Speaker 8: of the NAACP. Thank you so much for being with
Speaker 8: us here on Bloomberg TV and Radio. There's just a
Speaker 8: week left to go to change the minds of black
Speaker 8: men and black voters in general. What are you seeing
Speaker 8: in real time.
Speaker 9: Well, it is the trend of what happens during this
Speaker 9: stage of election cycle. After Labor Day, people slowly begin
Speaker 9: to pick more attention to average voter nicolas who we
Speaker 9: get to the election day. We are finding, as we've
Speaker 9: all Wag's found that as people pay attention to educate
Speaker 9: themselves around what's important. This election isn't about the individual candidates.
Speaker 9: It's not even about the political parties. It's about the
Speaker 9: public policy priorities.
Speaker 10: And the more young.
Speaker 9: African American voters, particularly those who are under fifty, get
Speaker 9: factual information about what's at stake, we're begin to see
Speaker 9: a shift, a gradual shift towards Vice President Harris. It
Speaker 9: was to be expected because during this period of time,
Speaker 9: this is what always happened. But it's really important that
Speaker 9: those voters are spoken with, they're listened to, and they
Speaker 9: as they understand the value in the portance.
Speaker 10: Of their vote.
Speaker 2: Director Johnson, it's good to have you back on Bloomberg
Speaker 2: TV and radio. You know the narrative that we heard
Speaker 2: over the summer, to your point before Labor Day, although
Speaker 2: a little bit after the story was that young men
Speaker 2: of color were gravitating toward Donald Trump, that this is
Speaker 2: a Republican nominee that was accomplishing something that the GOP
Speaker 2: was not used to, making inroads with a community that
Speaker 2: was typically not favorable to the Republican candidate or the
Speaker 2: nominee in this case, Does he deserve some credit as
Speaker 2: a Republican for crossing those lines to break through with
Speaker 2: young black men.
Speaker 10: Well in Bendi, Your question is if that was a
Speaker 10: factual statement. I have heard over the.
Speaker 9: Last five election cycles about this drifting of four Democratic
Speaker 9: voters in one direction as a result of some strategy
Speaker 9: from the Republican Party.
Speaker 10: I recall hearing it in two thousand and two thousand
Speaker 10: and four.
Speaker 9: It's the Latino community, or can recall hearing some of
Speaker 9: the same narratives around the aph American community broadly speaking,
Speaker 9: particularly twenty twelve and twenty sixteen, especially twenty sixteen.
Speaker 10: And so that's a.
Speaker 9: Narrative that's great for media consumption, but I have yet
Speaker 9: to find any factual basis for much of the narrative.
Speaker 9: The problem we did is a random sample, and originally
Speaker 9: it was a question around voters under fifty African Americans
Speaker 9: who failed. No one was speaking to them. They're not
Speaker 9: being heard in the pot of their vote. But as
Speaker 9: you close the timeline passed Labor Day, as voters are
Speaker 9: spoken to, they are being heard, and they understand the
Speaker 9: impact and importance of their vote as relates to the
Speaker 9: public policy issues that are on the table. We begin
Speaker 9: to see the natural ship, as we have identified in
Speaker 9: our poll and opponent is only a snap shot in time.
Speaker 10: This was early October.
Speaker 9: Now we've analyzed the pole considering what happened last week
Speaker 9: and particularly Sunday, there's even a greater shift, I will predict.
Speaker 8: Well, as you allude to Sunday, there obviously were a
Speaker 8: number of racist remarks made at the Madison Square Garden
Speaker 8: rally for Donald Trump, not necessarily by the former president,
Speaker 8: but by many of those who spoke before him. What
Speaker 8: do you make of where we are rhetorically right now, Derek,
Speaker 8: and what the signals about the way the country can
Speaker 8: move forward toward the advancement of all people, colored people included.
Speaker 9: Well, we've gone from the loss of stability in our
Speaker 9: public discourse around vible candidates to the loss of supporting
Speaker 9: the importance of democracy.
Speaker 10: What we witnessed on Sunday was a show of fascists.
Speaker 9: You know, I just completed Robert Caro's book on LBJ.
Speaker 9: He talks about the Nazi gathering in the thirties as
Speaker 9: a backlash of New Deal policies, and what he describes
Speaker 9: in his book and what I see that took place
Speaker 9: at Madison Square Gardens is very similar you talking about
Speaker 9: appealing to the lowest comedy nominator around the racial construct
Speaker 9: and ethnic background across the board. That has nothing to
Speaker 9: do with strengthening our democracy or the traditional debate around
Speaker 9: the role of government and taxi. That is about creating
Speaker 9: a space of other rising whole communities and dehumanizing people
Speaker 9: in joke.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. We heard from jd Vance, of course Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's running mate, on this, and he is obviously taking
Speaker 2: a different tact than you are in this case, Director Johnson.
Speaker 2: We're just getting this ready because he was asked about
Speaker 2: it and spoke to some of the offensive rhetoric that
Speaker 2: we heard at Madison Square Garden, remembering that he was there.
Speaker 2: He had a speaking role in this five hour rally,
Speaker 2: and even though he claims he didn't hear this joke,
Speaker 2: he reacted to the overall criticism here.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 11: My own view on this is, Look again, I haven't
Speaker 11: seen the joke. You know, maybe it's a stupid racist joke,
Speaker 11: as you said, maybe it's not. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 11: I'm not going to comment on the specifics of the joke,
Speaker 11: but I think that we have to stop getting so
Speaker 11: offended at every little thing in the United States of America.
Speaker 11: I'm just I'm so over it.
Speaker 2: Just want you to react to that, Derek Johnson, that
Speaker 2: were too easily offended at every little thing in the
Speaker 2: United States of America.
Speaker 9: Deny its existence, diminish its impact, pivot back to the message,
Speaker 9: and then carry on with the message of other rising individuals,
Speaker 9: the meaning communities and trying to create a space where
Speaker 9: white supremacy exists. It was the same thing doing to
Speaker 9: debate that. You use three strategic tactics. You call out xenophobia,
Speaker 9: they're taking our jobs. You put a racialized liss on it,
Speaker 9: those Haitians, and then you create a reality where you
Speaker 9: say these individuals are not even human by saying they're
Speaker 9: eating our dogs and cats. It's a strategy that's tried
Speaker 9: and true, where you otherise communities to try to prop
Speaker 9: up and motivate a base to vote against all of
Speaker 9: these impending, not sub human individuals who are taking something
Speaker 9: from us.
Speaker 10: And then when you get caught in.
Speaker 9: That, you deny it existing, you try to marginalize its impact,
Speaker 9: and then you pivot back to their message.
Speaker 8: So that's the messaging we're hearing from one side, Derek.
Speaker 8: We'll hear more messaging the closing argument as it's being
Speaker 8: built from Kamala Harris tonight at the Ellipse here in Washington.
Speaker 8: What does she need to say to black voters.
Speaker 10: Well, I don't think there's one side versus.
Speaker 9: The other side of this tent is those who support
Speaker 9: democracy and celebrate the diversity that we have wrong into being.
Speaker 9: You know, I recall being in school that we talked
Speaker 9: about America is a mixing pot and it brings in
Speaker 9: ethnic groups and racial diversity from around the globe. Even President,
Speaker 9: former President Reagan talked about that we celebrate our diversity,
Speaker 9: that you could be Eastern European, you can be a
Speaker 9: Catholic or Jewish, but once you've become an American and
Speaker 9: citizens all Americans.
Speaker 10: And that was nineteen eighty the nineteen eighty's Ronald Reagan, unlike.
Speaker 9: Anyone else, they say, this is the leader of the party,
Speaker 9: he's the shining example, and they have the party so
Speaker 9: far from that example.
Speaker 10: This evening, I would.
Speaker 9: Only think that the Vice president would speak to all
Speaker 9: Americans to talk about the strength about democracy, the need
Speaker 9: to protect our democracy as we look forward to a
Speaker 9: future that's inclusive, productive, and continue to lead this globe
Speaker 9: as the leading democracy and doing so without tearing anybody
Speaker 9: down and maligning any particular individual or community.
Speaker 2: We've only got about thirty seconds left, Sir will Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris enjoyed the same level of support from Black Americans
Speaker 2: that Joe Biden did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 9: I believe that Americans would turn out to the polls,
Speaker 9: especially Black Americans, to support what could potentially be the
Speaker 9: first African and East Asian president female.
Speaker 10: Of this country.
Speaker 2: Appreciate your sharing the new polling info with us. Stay
Speaker 2: in touch with us. Derek Johnson, of course, President CEO
Speaker 2: of the NUBACP, in an important conversation here on Bloomberg
Speaker 2: TV and Radio. We'll assemble our panel next on the
Speaker 2: Fastest show in Politics. They're with us today, Rick Davis
Speaker 2: and Genie Shanzano. With one week to go, we'll look
Speaker 2: ahead at the dueling speeches, the closing arguments, and the
Speaker 2: stakes at hands in this election as you would expect.
Speaker 2: Right here on Bloomberg TV and Radio.
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Speaker 8: I mean, look here on balance of power at the
Speaker 8: week ahead until election day on November fifth. As we know,
Speaker 8: the election already is well underway. Millions, tens of millions
Speaker 8: of ballots have already been cast in the states that
Speaker 8: ultimately could decide the outcome of this race. But November
Speaker 8: fifth is still the important day that at least Donald
Speaker 8: Trump is watching watching. He said this in Georgia yesterday.
Speaker 5: We stand on the verge of the four greatest years
Speaker 5: in American history. With your help, from now until election day,
Speaker 5: we will restore America's promise and we will.
Speaker 2: Take back the nation that we love.
Speaker 5: November fifth will be the most important day in the
Speaker 5: history of our country, and together we will make America
Speaker 5: powerful again.
Speaker 2: Fast forward to today, with seven days to the election,
Speaker 2: one week out dueling speeches. Right around seven pm Eastern time,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump will be in Allentown, Pennsylvania. He is expected
Speaker 2: to be greeted by protesters Puerto Rican voters who are
Speaker 2: still sore about some of the language that was used.
Speaker 2: We were just discussing it with Derek Johnson from the
Speaker 2: NAACP at Madison's Square Garden on Sunday night. Allentown happens
Speaker 2: to be a majority Latino city where Donald Trump will
Speaker 2: be landing a bit later on Kamala Harris again on
Speaker 2: the Ellipse here in Washington, DC, with what appears to
Speaker 2: be an evolving speech. We're going to talk about this
Speaker 2: with our signature panel.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 2: Rick Davis and Genie Shanzo are with this Bloomberg Politics contributor.
Speaker 2: She is political science professor at Iona University. He is
Speaker 2: partner at Stone Court Capital and Republican strategist. Genie, what
Speaker 2: do you make of what seems to be the late
Speaker 2: hour reframing of this address, one that was aimed at
Speaker 2: calling out Donald Trump as a threat to democracy, to
Speaker 2: bring people back to those visceral feelings they had on
Speaker 2: January sixth, now being framed as a speech about optimism.
Speaker 2: She'll be talking about her to do list and contrasting
Speaker 2: that with Donald Trump's enemies list. Is that a better tact?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 13: I think it is when we think about it in
Speaker 13: the most basic terms. She has to appear to this
Speaker 13: four or five percent of undecided voters in seven swing states.
Speaker 13: So these are people who, for whatever reason, are uncomfortable
Speaker 13: with Donald Trump, and Sunday gave them a lot more
Speaker 13: to be uncomfortable with, but are not quite sold on
Speaker 13: Kamala Harris. So she's got to do exactly what you
Speaker 13: just said, Joe, which is remind them why they are
Speaker 13: uncomfortable with Donald Trump and don't want to go back
Speaker 13: to that, and also give them that permission structure to
Speaker 13: support her. And I think of it as more than permission.
Speaker 13: I think of it as reminding ourselves. She's only been
Speaker 13: at the top of this ticket for about one hundred days,
Speaker 13: So it's not just giving them permission, but giving them
Speaker 13: a reason to vote for her, which is that she
Speaker 13: is competent, she is able, and they can picture her
Speaker 13: in the White House managing the economy and in a
Speaker 13: way that makes sense and also protecting their rights and liberties,
Speaker 13: including the right to choose. So she's got to walk
Speaker 13: both of those lines for that small sliver that's still
Speaker 13: undecided and get them out to vote for her, at
Speaker 13: least some of them.
Speaker 8: Well, so, Rick, what is your degree of confidence on
Speaker 8: her ability to do that and to strike the right
Speaker 8: messaging tone not necessarily all the dark doom gloom threats
Speaker 8: to democracy fascism, unfitness for office, but to also be
Speaker 8: a voice of positivity this evening, as it does seem
Speaker 8: the campaign is trying to spin us forward into saying
Speaker 8: this will be a different speech than perhaps we thought.
Speaker 4: Difficult to produce a great contrast ad where you talk
Speaker 4: positively about your message and negatively about your opponent in
Speaker 4: the same thirty seconds. She's going to have an hour
Speaker 4: to do it, and it's still a difficult path to perform.
Speaker 4: The reality is that I think it's somewhat challenged to
Speaker 4: to do it in a place that hearkens back such
Speaker 4: memories as January sixth and overcoming this. The idea that
Speaker 4: you're going to be there in Washington on the mall,
Speaker 4: at the site where Donald Trump launched an insurrection against
Speaker 4: the democracy and attack the capital and then not make
Speaker 4: that about the speech actually doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 4: If you want to talk about your plans going forward,
Speaker 4: what you're going to do on day one, how you're
Speaker 4: going to improve the lives of Americans, who sixty four
Speaker 4: percent of which say the country is on the wrong
Speaker 4: track during her administration, then why would you do it
Speaker 4: in a place that actually isn't going to appeal physically
Speaker 4: to that same message. Why don't you go to a
Speaker 4: state that has actually been reeling from economic downturn that's
Speaker 4: occurred in your administration and talk about how you're different
Speaker 4: than this administration. I mean, it just doesn't really make
Speaker 4: much sense to me.
Speaker 2: But it's a tough task.
Speaker 4: And all Donald Trump's got to do in Allentown after
Speaker 4: dodging the Puerto Rican protesters is to say they broke it.
Speaker 2: You all agree with that.
Speaker 4: I'm going to fix it, and I fix it in
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, and I'll do it again in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: So he's got a much easier closed task and he
Speaker 4: couldn't even get that right, you know, at Madison Square
Speaker 4: Garden on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Wow. I wonder if this helps to justify the choice
Speaker 2: of venue for Kamala Harris this evening Genie. It's pulling
Speaker 2: from Siena College, and a carryover number that we got
Speaker 2: out of The New York Times Today jumped off the page.
Speaker 2: Nearly half of all likely voters forty six percent said
Speaker 2: Donald Trump was acting within bounds when he tried to
Speaker 2: overturn the results of the twenty twenty election. That is
Speaker 2: an increase from the thirty nine percent of voters who
Speaker 2: said the same in July of twenty twenty two. The
Speaker 2: normalizing of January sixth, Is that enough reason for her
Speaker 2: to be there?
Speaker 11: You know?
Speaker 13: I think that's part of it. I also think the
Speaker 13: campaign feels that they want to put before voters a
Speaker 13: reminder of visual reminder, if you will, choosing this venue,
Speaker 13: of the seriousness of what they have to do when
Speaker 13: they go in the voting boot those who still have
Speaker 13: to vote, And this is a helpful reminder of that.
Speaker 13: And I would also just note Donald Trump was in
Speaker 13: mar A Lago today giving a pre buddle to Kamala
Speaker 13: Harris's speech tonight. And what did he say? He said,
Speaker 13: Madison Square Garden was beautiful. It was full of love,
Speaker 13: far from the apology some people are expecting. And it's
Speaker 13: a reminder again of January sixth, a day when people
Speaker 13: were attacked, including police officers who eventually died, including people
Speaker 13: in the protest. Another day he described as a day
Speaker 13: of love. So it's not just Kamala Harris reminding people
Speaker 13: of this, it is Donald Trump himself. He is doing
Speaker 13: himself and his campaign a disservice by not focusing on
Speaker 13: what his ads are focusing on, quite frankly, which are
Speaker 13: these policies that people are not happy about. His undisciplined
Speaker 13: nature is getting to caught up with him, essentially, and
Speaker 13: this is a reminder of that as they go to
Speaker 13: the Ellipse today.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the love in that room was breathtaking. One quote
Speaker 8: from Donald Trump's media appearance I will say or speech Rick,
Speaker 8: because while it was billed as a press conference, he
Speaker 8: did not in fact take any questions in mar A Lago.
Speaker 8: But he will be in Pennsylvania this evening at the
Speaker 8: same time Harris is speaking. Does he need to have
Speaker 8: a better answer to what happened in Madison Square Garden
Speaker 8: when he speaks in a heavily Puerto Rican area.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I totally agree with Genie's assessment. This is
Speaker 4: maybe the worst run presidential campaign in the general election
Speaker 4: that we've ever seen. We used to applaud their efforts
Speaker 4: in the primary because they were pretty good at offsetting
Speaker 4: their opponents, but ever since they merged into the presumptive
Speaker 4: nominee perspective, Donald Trump and his campaign has done everything
Speaker 4: humanly possible to stop him from being president. Frankly, I
Speaker 4: think he's done more damage to his own campaign than
Speaker 4: the Harris Biden campaigns have done to him. And the
Speaker 4: reality is it's an easy giveaway. Right he gets up
Speaker 4: on the speech, he says, anything that happened in mar
Speaker 4: A Lago that fomented racism or division in our community,
Speaker 4: I'm opposed to. Now, let me get on with my
Speaker 4: regular speech. But he doesn't do that, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: like we've never seen him do that. He called January
Speaker 4: sixth a day of love recently, so I guess anything
Speaker 4: that is a negative attack on institutions that we care
Speaker 4: about and people that are part of our community is
Speaker 4: an act of love. I don't get it. This should
Speaker 4: actually be the easiest campaign to win. Biden administration is
Speaker 4: horribly unpopular. People have not set aside the impact of inflation,
Speaker 4: and any Republican with a grain of salt should be
Speaker 4: winning by ten points in this election. The fact that
Speaker 4: it's this close is a testament to Donald Trump's inability
Speaker 4: to close the deal and actually act like a mature
Speaker 4: adult on the campaign trail.
Speaker 2: Well, Donald Trump is referring to something called the soft
Speaker 2: foul genie. We mentioned this a little bit earlier, speaking yesterday,
Speaker 2: said sometimes he is a little bit not hard foul,
Speaker 2: but soft foul to emphasize something about somebody's capabilities or
Speaker 2: whatever I might be talking about. He does believe that
Speaker 2: the insult plays a role in political discourse, and that's
Speaker 2: why he's not going to apologize later.
Speaker 13: Right, Uh, you know, I guess so. But he's really
Speaker 13: not reading the room. The reality is is that he
Speaker 13: you know, he is not a comedian in a comic store.
Speaker 13: He is running for president of the United States, and
Speaker 13: that takes a degree of seriousness and discipline that he
Speaker 13: simply is not exhibiting. And that is what is making
Speaker 13: even his supporters frustrated. Because if this election is about policy,
Speaker 13: he has a winning hand. But to Rick's point, he
Speaker 13: does everything to make it about everything but policy. You know,
Speaker 13: MSNBC got hit for talking about this rally that he
Speaker 13: had Sunday and you know, sort of the affinity to
Speaker 13: Nazi rallies. All he had to do was go into
Speaker 13: MSG and say I am not a Nazi?
Speaker 4: Are you know?
Speaker 13: We are not that? And he did anything, but as
Speaker 13: did his campaign, which has really gone off the rails
Speaker 13: at this point, and it is doing him an enormous disservice.
Speaker 13: And so if he can contain himself for a week.
Speaker 13: He might have a shot here, but this is getting
Speaker 13: from bad to worse at this point, and the only
Speaker 13: thing that can help him is if Kamala Harris can't
Speaker 13: close this deal tonight and as we go forward.
Speaker 8: All right, Genie Shanzano and Rick Davis, our signature political panel,
Speaker 8: thank you both so much for joining us on the
Speaker 8: Nazi comment. We did hear about that from Donald Trump
Speaker 8: earlier today saying he is the opposite of a Nazi,
Speaker 8: and Malania Trump, his wife, in an appearance on Fox,
Speaker 8: also said her husband is not a Nazi. I guess
Speaker 8: it raises the question of if you actually have to
Speaker 8: say that.
Speaker 2: What that Well, that's a good point. Reminded me of
Speaker 2: Gary Busey on Celebrity Apprentice one of the first seasons,
Speaker 2: when he explained that an enemy is a friend in reverse.
Speaker 2: He was palaced with Donald Trump, Right, if you have
Speaker 2: to explain that, it does say something about where you are.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, we're going to take a look at where
Speaker 8: we are in one of the key states that matters
Speaker 8: coming up next, North Carolina Secretary of State is going
Speaker 8: to be joining us in just a few minutes here
Speaker 8: on balance of power. So stay with us for Kaylee Lines.
Speaker 8: I'm Kaylee Lines. That's Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg TV
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Speaker 2: Eleven thirty seven days to election day, But of course
Speaker 2: a lot of people have already voted, roughly a third
Speaker 2: so far. As we watch early voting take place in
Speaker 2: swing states and others around the country here and as
Speaker 2: of yesterday, we've had a close eye Kyley on North Carolina,
Speaker 2: of course, suffered enormous damage from Hurricane Helena, and there
Speaker 2: were a lot of concerns about ballot access. Some rules
Speaker 2: had to be changed, whether people would even be paying
Speaker 2: attention to the election knowing that they had such devastation
Speaker 2: to deal with. Nearly three million people have voted in
Speaker 2: North Carolina. It's quite remarkable, more than a third of
Speaker 2: the state's registered voters. The twenty five counties that FEMA
Speaker 2: declared as disaster areas in western North Carolina are also
Speaker 2: holding up at a pretty healthy clip. It seems the
Speaker 2: state is doing a really good job.
Speaker 8: Well, and we wanted to speak with someone from the
Speaker 8: state on this as this is ultimately one of the
Speaker 8: seven that could decide the electoral College and therefore the
Speaker 8: outcome of the presidential election. Joining us now on Bloomberg
Speaker 8: TV in radio as North Carolina's Secretary of State, Elaine Marshall,
Speaker 8: Madam Secretary, thank you for being here on balance of powers.
Speaker 8: Joe mentions that we are seeing relatively strong turnout early
Speaker 8: in some of these areas that were devastated by Hurricane Helene.
Speaker 8: Are there still problem areas that we should be aware
Speaker 8: of people who are having difficulty in figuring out how
Speaker 8: they can vote in this election. Knowing that the deadline
Speaker 8: for absentee ballots to be requested in North Carolina is today.
Speaker 12: Well, thank you so much for having me on and
Speaker 12: thank you very much for your interest in North Carolina. Indeed,
Speaker 12: Western North Carolina was devastated. There are some things about
Speaker 12: western North Carolina that are heartbreaking and there are others
Speaker 12: that are heartwarming. The fact that the voting is not
Speaker 12: appreciably off in Western North Carolina, considering four years ago.
Speaker 12: That's very heartwarming. What is heartbreaking is some misinformation about
Speaker 12: voting and about female relief out there. To update your
Speaker 12: numbers a little bit more. As of last night, it
Speaker 12: was over three point one million North Carolinians who had voted.
Speaker 12: So we are on a very good pathway to have
Speaker 12: an excellent turnout, and we've got up until Saturday at
Speaker 12: two o'clock or three o'clock in the afternoon and until
Speaker 12: everybody can vote, now until the early voting, and then
Speaker 12: we go to election day. There have been some changes
Speaker 12: that help improve the access in western North Carolina. The
Speaker 12: General Assembly did a couple of things. They added some
Speaker 12: early vote sites in two different counties that were pretty
Speaker 12: hard hit to make it easier for folks to reach
Speaker 12: an early vote site. Another thing that they did regards
Speaker 12: absent tee ballots. Previously, the law was that you had
Speaker 12: to return your absentee ballot to the county that issued it.
Speaker 12: They've changed that so that the absentee ballot can be
Speaker 12: returned to any county in North Carolina and it will
Speaker 12: be counted. Folks that may have lost their absentee ballot
Speaker 12: because of the flood washing it away, or it was
Speaker 12: in the mail and the mail was washed away, they
Speaker 12: can get a new one. Of course, only one can
Speaker 12: be voted. If someone attempts to file a second one,
Speaker 12: that would be a campaign violation. But they're bar coded
Speaker 12: and so we track ballots. Anybody, whether they're in the
Speaker 12: disaster area or not, can see that their vote has
Speaker 12: been counted. I voted the very first day of early voting,
Speaker 12: and it shows that I have voted and that my
Speaker 12: ballot was accepted, so it's in there to be read
Speaker 12: when they start reading the absentee ballots. So we've done
Speaker 12: several things here in North Carolina to help make it
Speaker 12: easier for folks. That doesn't mean the roads are great
Speaker 12: up there in some places, but certainly we want everybody
Speaker 12: who's possible to come to North Carolina and spend money
Speaker 12: because so much of western North Carolina is based upon
Speaker 12: its beauty and its hospitality industry. So please come back
Speaker 12: soon and be with us.
Speaker 2: Well, that was quite an update on the ground view
Speaker 2: in real time, Secretary, You've had a lot of tough
Speaker 2: stuff thrown at you here, and I wonder what has
Speaker 2: been the greater challenge for you, the storm damage itself
Speaker 2: or the miss and disinformation that followed the hurricane that
Speaker 2: you referred to.
Speaker 12: Well, pretty hard to balance it out. But this and
Speaker 12: disinformation is always a threat to democracy, and that is
Speaker 12: becoming a pattern. Whereas this natural disaster, we hope that
Speaker 12: we never see anything more like it again to that
Speaker 12: extent of damage. But mis and disinformation and how it
Speaker 12: changes people's mind and how people don't really use their
Speaker 12: good thinking brain to think through some things that they
Speaker 12: hear about out there is just pretty disturbing. And the
Speaker 12: fact that some people don't really haven't really studied civics
Speaker 12: and understand the different branches of government and who can
Speaker 12: do what. And you know, people can make outrageous statements
Speaker 12: when certain people have no authority over that particular thing
Speaker 12: at all. So you've got to look for trusted voices
Speaker 12: to give reliable, good information, and we hope that people
Speaker 12: will do a little research to figure out who is
Speaker 12: a trusted voice.
Speaker 8: Well, let's talk about one voice and a statement that
Speaker 8: has been mead. Congressman Andy Harris of North Carolina, a
Speaker 8: member of the US House of Representatives, has said because
Speaker 8: of Hurricane Helene, the state legislature should consider awarding all
Speaker 8: of North Carolina's electoral votes to Donald Trump before the
Speaker 8: votes are counted. What is your response to that, Madam
Speaker 8: secretariz me.
Speaker 12: I hate to be making a correction here, but it
Speaker 12: has gotten out. Representative Harris is a Maryland representative. He
Speaker 12: is the head of the Freedom Caucus. He is not
Speaker 12: a North Carolina representative.
Speaker 8: You're right, I apologize. Thank you for correcting me.
Speaker 12: That got twisted. Well, what he is saying, in essence
Speaker 12: is that because of the disaster that affects about a
Speaker 12: million a million plus people, that we should disenfranchise the
Speaker 12: other six and a half million voters in North Carolina. Now,
Speaker 12: that is an idea who does not have anywhere to go?
Speaker 12: That's a terrible idea, is very anti democratic. And fortunately
Speaker 12: Representative Patrick mc henry, who is from the Mountains and
Speaker 12: was on the higher leadership teams of the Republican leadership
Speaker 12: in the House, has debunked what this person has said.
Speaker 12: What is kind of bad about some of the disinformation
Speaker 12: is that even though our Western leaders who are predominantly
Speaker 12: Republican have said that these things are not correct, whether
Speaker 12: it's FEMA other issues, they're not really calling out the
Speaker 12: voices that have amplified it, such as the presidential and
Speaker 12: vice presidential candidates on the Republican ticket, and I'm just
Speaker 12: very sorry that they're harming our people through this disinformation
Speaker 12: and negligent speaking campaign.
Speaker 2: We should note that Harris has since then he was
Speaker 2: having a theoretical conversation. For what it's worth, it doesn't
Speaker 2: seem that's going to be happening. Secretary. I wonder your
Speaker 2: thoughts on an important visit to Ashville from Tim Walls
Speaker 2: and whether Ashville is prepared, whether logistically this might present
Speaker 2: challenges to voters trying to get to the polls, never
Speaker 2: mind rebuild from the storm.
Speaker 12: Well, there's gonna be difficulty getting around Ashville. That's one
Speaker 12: of the worst hit areas, and it's going to take
Speaker 12: some time for the state to go back and re
Speaker 12: stake in county to rebuild the infrastructure. But folks are hardy.
Speaker 12: The schools in western North Carolina are all open or
Speaker 12: one last one will be coming on the week of election,
Speaker 12: so you know we're back to normal. Appalachian State and
Speaker 12: Western Carolina had football games last weekend, sadly only one
Speaker 12: of the two one, but you know, life is getting
Speaker 12: back to normal. Mountain people are incredibly resilient. You have
Speaker 12: to be to live in the mountains. That's just one
Speaker 12: of the inevitabilities. It's beautiful, but at times it's harsh.
Speaker 12: And so I've done economic development work for the state
Speaker 12: and I have found leaders when I've talked to them
Speaker 12: about why did you pick North Carolina or the mountains
Speaker 12: because there's not a lot of flat land in the
Speaker 12: mountains to build plants on, no work to have agricultural fields.
Speaker 12: And this one particular company leader told me it was
Speaker 12: because of the resiliency of the people. Their work ethic
Speaker 12: was high, they were determined to do a good job,
Speaker 12: and they did a good job. This is a parts
Speaker 12: company for electrical switches and things like that. So our
Speaker 12: reputation for resiliency is well earned. And the people up
Speaker 12: there are determined they're going to rebuild, and we're determined
Speaker 12: here in the eastern part of the state and the
Speaker 12: government that we're going to facilitate that rebuilding.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 8: And we certainly wish you and everyone in the state,
Speaker 8: all those affected, luck with that rebuild as we consider
Speaker 8: ultimately what we're going to see in North Carolina on
Speaker 8: a shorter term timeline. On next Tuesday election day, we
Speaker 8: have a lot of questions about how long it will
Speaker 8: take to figure out who won that state and a
Speaker 8: number of other states as well. I know your role
Speaker 8: is specifically to convene the state electors to a old
Speaker 8: time certify those results. That will happen weeks after election day.
Speaker 8: But how long do you think it will be before
Speaker 8: North Carolina knows who those electoral votes are going to
Speaker 8: be committed to.
Speaker 12: Well, it's not going to be that night, I don't think.
Speaker 12: I don't think we've had any early nights in North
Speaker 12: Carolina in the last several years. And with more poll
Speaker 12: watchers who have been approved by the General Assembly, and
Speaker 12: in my opinion, more gotcha kind of things where there
Speaker 12: can be errors or negligent negligent errors on the envelope
Speaker 12: for absentee ballots, there may be some more challenges than
Speaker 12: we've ever seen to voting. I pray that that's not
Speaker 12: the case. I hope that I know that democracy will prevail,
Speaker 12: but that the poll watchers will do what they're supposed
Speaker 12: to do, which is stay out of the way of
Speaker 12: the voters, not watching the voting, and not chill voters.
Speaker 12: Because pole watchers can do that, people feel intimidated if
Speaker 12: there are more people hanging around inside the voting area,
Speaker 12: and that's just inevitable. So pole watchers used to have
Speaker 12: some very strict restrictions about where they could be and
Speaker 12: how long they could be there and those kind of things,
Speaker 12: but those have been lifted, and unfortunately, we think that
Speaker 12: there is training going on in this state to try
Speaker 12: to pick issues about people and report to the election
Speaker 12: officials in the effort to challenge certain voters. You know,
Speaker 12: intimidation of voters should never be a part of the
Speaker 12: American electorate.
Speaker 2: Nor should intimidation of election workers. Secretariat has become a
Speaker 2: pretty dangerous job in some places. Being an election worker
Speaker 2: is certainly one fraught with risk physically, if not socially,
Speaker 2: as we experienced following the twenty twenty elections. How's morale
Speaker 2: on your team.
Speaker 12: Well, it's not really my team, since it's a state
Speaker 12: Board of Elections rather than my office, but I do
Speaker 12: know from anecdotal information that folks are two things. Number One,
Speaker 12: they're mindful because of what they're hearing in other states happening,
Speaker 12: and so they're taking special precautions for their own safety.
Speaker 12: The other is that election workers do it not for
Speaker 12: the pleasure of sitting there. For twelve hours a day
Speaker 12: and then more work later, and it's a hard job.
Speaker 12: They do it because they're dedicated to their fellow citizens
Speaker 12: and they're dedicated to democracy. So we don't need to
Speaker 12: do anything to impact that. We need to lift these
Speaker 12: people up, protect them in all ways that we can,
Speaker 12: and our Board of Elections has multiple points of security,
Speaker 12: multiple engagements with the various levels of law enforcement in
Speaker 12: case that's needed. Hopefully it will not be, but I
Speaker 12: think the public needs to know that the machines have
Speaker 12: been certified, they've been calibrated and reevaluated right before this election.
Speaker 12: They will be reevaluated at the end of the election
Speaker 12: to make sure that the machines are counting us right.
Speaker 12: And we have paper here in North Carolina so that
Speaker 12: we can go back and rebuild the vote if any
Speaker 12: machine for some reason malfunction. And our machines are not
Speaker 12: connected to the Internet at all, so that type of interference,
Speaker 12: that's all a bogus coin.
Speaker 2: So you have it from the source, North Carolina's Secretary
Speaker 2: of State, Lane Marshall's secretary, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: being with us here in good luck surviving the next
Speaker 2: seven days. There's a lot of course that the folks
Speaker 2: in North Carolina and the other swing states are going
Speaker 2: to be going through here in preparing to not only
Speaker 2: count the votes seven days from now, Kayley, but get
Speaker 2: into the absentee ballots the early voting. As the secretary
Speaker 2: just made some news here, more than three point one
Speaker 2: million voters in North Carolina have already had.
Speaker 8: Their say it's incredible, and of course millions more across
Speaker 8: some of these other battleground states we're watching, which does
Speaker 8: raise the questions we look ahead this evening to Donald
Speaker 8: Trump and Allentown, Pennsylvania, to Kamala Harris here in Washington
Speaker 8: speaking at the Ellipse so called closing Arguments. It's not
Speaker 8: a huge group of people that might be open to
Speaker 8: changing their mind.
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