Speaker 1: I am all in you, I am all in with
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hi everybody. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast and
Speaker 1: this is one on one with Lane Kim played brilliantly
Speaker 1: by Keiko again. Uh um, I'm gonna tell you a
Speaker 1: little bit about Keiko. Welcome, by the way to the
Speaker 1: podcast Nice to Happen. Um Kago plays a character of
Speaker 1: Lane Kim. As you all know, Lane is Stars Hollows
Speaker 1: resident music lover. Lane has been um is seeing toting
Speaker 1: what she refers to was the Mojo Bible of music around,
Speaker 1: aiming to procure every last record in it. Due to
Speaker 1: her family strict religious adherence, Lane is a master of
Speaker 1: in juneer, successfully executing various schemes to procure the aforementioned tunes,
Speaker 1: often with the help of her childhood best friend Rory.
Speaker 1: Let's get into this. There's, there's a, there's a there's
Speaker 1: there's a lot more stuff in here. I could go
Speaker 1: on talking about your resume forever, but I want to
Speaker 1: get into the questions. And we'll get into your resume
Speaker 1: a little later, because this is an impressive list of
Speaker 1: shows that you've been on. And we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: But let's start from the beginning. How did you get
Speaker 1: the role of Lane? Oh, I was just one of
Speaker 1: the pack. I think when I auditioned for Lane, it
Speaker 1: was with a bunch of other people. I think I
Speaker 1: showed up and they were probably two pages worth of
Speaker 1: people who have who had signed in at that point
Speaker 1: and UH and so I just went through the weeding
Speaker 1: out process until we um, you know, we got to
Speaker 1: the UH network test. I guess was the last one
Speaker 1: UM until we shot the pilot. That was my process.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any special there were no special lines
Speaker 1: for me. I just kind of went in with the group.
Speaker 1: So you went you met casting first audition, then you
Speaker 1: went to producers second audition, Then it was network, and
Speaker 1: then it was studio. So it was for total Yeah,
Speaker 1: was a studio first or network first? I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to go through that. I just got
Speaker 1: cast as a guest starting pilot, al right, whatever, No,
Speaker 1: I had to jump through a few hoops and then
Speaker 1: I had a producers session. I remember that. That was
Speaker 1: the first time I had had something like that. With
Speaker 1: the met up with Amy and maybe Dan was there,
Speaker 1: someone else was there too, But a little with Amy
Speaker 1: before the final test. I think where was Gavin blown there? Oh?
Speaker 1: That's right. Was it Gavin that was there at the
Speaker 1: and Leslie Leslie Lincoln Gladder? Was she there? She directed
Speaker 1: the pilot. I don't think she was there at that session.
Speaker 1: I know Amy was there. Um, yeah, and then we
Speaker 1: So what do you remember about the actual audition? Do
Speaker 1: you think you nailed it? Yeah? Do you remember the audition,
Speaker 1: like how how it went for you? Did you feel
Speaker 1: afterwards like you nailed it and you you felt pretty
Speaker 1: good about it? Or or what? Well? I always say
Speaker 1: the saving grace was that I had had I was
Speaker 1: part of a very very tiny, recurring part on Felicity
Speaker 1: at the same time, and because of that, I was
Speaker 1: just distracted enough to not obsess about the audition process. Also,
Speaker 1: I had never gone through so many auditions, so I
Speaker 1: didn't even know there was such a thing as a
Speaker 1: studio test and then network test. I honestly didn't know
Speaker 1: why I had to keep showing up. So when I
Speaker 1: showed up at the in the room, I was surprised
Speaker 1: by the fact that there were, you know, a dozen
Speaker 1: people in there. I didn't know why they were, but
Speaker 1: I just came in and I did the same thing
Speaker 1: as I did the audition before, and because I was
Speaker 1: distracted enough, I read the lines very flat and I
Speaker 1: didn't I don't think I put any extra spin on
Speaker 1: it or any extra mustard on it, which I think
Speaker 1: with that this writing, as you might, I don't know
Speaker 1: what your opinion is, but is on it. But I
Speaker 1: feel like, especially at that point that was the writing
Speaker 1: was good enough that I didn't putting any extra schmeg
Speaker 1: on it wasn't going to help at any and so
Speaker 1: I think that's actually was ended up being helpful for
Speaker 1: the fans tuning in. Getting a series regular job on
Speaker 1: a on a comedy or a sitcom or a dramedy
Speaker 1: or a drama is an excruciatingly long, arduous process because
Speaker 1: you meet the casting people, and then if you get
Speaker 1: through that, you meet the produce some of the producers,
Speaker 1: maybe not all of them. And then if you get
Speaker 1: past that, and you get in the group that goes
Speaker 1: to the studio, and then if you and then that
Speaker 1: gets nervous because it's a big conference room and all
Speaker 1: these suits come in and there you know, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: nerve wracking. And then if you get through that, then
Speaker 1: you go to the network where it's a bigger conference
Speaker 1: room or it's even a small theater within that network
Speaker 1: where they do that kind of thing, and then there
Speaker 1: might be fifty people there and it's it's very, very
Speaker 1: difficult to get a job. So um So, when you
Speaker 1: first got the script, did you ever think the character
Speaker 1: of Lane will become so loved and so important to
Speaker 1: the series. I did know that it was a great character.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that she was part of it
Speaker 1: and you got to see her home life and her mom,
Speaker 1: and it did seem interesting, and I loved the overall script,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. When I read that full script, I thought, dang,
Speaker 1: I hope this gets too series, because even as a fan,
Speaker 1: I think this is a good show. So that was
Speaker 1: a special feeling. I didn't think I would get it,
Speaker 1: So I had a lot of I wasn't attached to it,
Speaker 1: but I remember thinking, oh, this is this is a
Speaker 1: great part for someone exactly. Yeah, you know, I'm in
Speaker 1: the same way. I never think I'm gonna get anything,
Speaker 1: and then it's kind of a shock when you when
Speaker 1: you get it, it's like, wow, how did that happened?
Speaker 1: It's fun, it's fun, Yeah, it's fun. Um So, What
Speaker 1: did you like most about Lane and what did you
Speaker 1: like least about Lane. I liked that she had to
Speaker 1: care about two things. One she cared deeply about her
Speaker 1: mother and the other way she would care deeply about
Speaker 1: her own obsessions and her own independence. And I like
Speaker 1: characters that have that want two things that don't easily
Speaker 1: fit together. That's just fun to play off of, to
Speaker 1: play those two wants off of each other. Um. The
Speaker 1: thing that I like least about her is that you know,
Speaker 1: you have all of this build up in that character,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that she ever got to fly.
Speaker 1: You put a so much pressure on this character, which
Speaker 1: is fun and what you need in comedy. But I
Speaker 1: wish that she had had more moments of um fulfillment.
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of frustration I have with that care as a fan too,
Speaker 1: or and as someone who got to play her, I
Speaker 1: would say that's the thing I like least about her.
Speaker 1: Um that there was more potential to flesh out that
Speaker 1: character and and and you know, with augmented storylines and
Speaker 1: and and conclusions. Yeah more um Uh. I think she
Speaker 1: just had a hard life, which is fun for comedy.
Speaker 1: But I I don't know, and maybe this wouldn't make
Speaker 1: a better show, But I think selfishly I wish that
Speaker 1: she had had maybe more for fulfillment. It's at least
Speaker 1: with the music side and the independent side of of
Speaker 1: her because we get to, you know, touch base with
Speaker 1: her ten years later in the in the what about
Speaker 1: a spinoff show? You and Let's do that? There's so
Speaker 1: much more story to help people. Let's uh, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's spin her off? Right, And it's like, who's going
Speaker 1: to write it? Right? Yeah? I know that that the
Speaker 1: current writers are kind of busy, I know with what Oh,
Speaker 1: that's right, the award winning show. So did you? Um,
Speaker 1: here's a fan question, did you? Did you and Alexis
Speaker 1: have a great friendship outside the show. I wish we
Speaker 1: had more of a friendship. That was probably a lot
Speaker 1: to do with with uh, with me not making as
Speaker 1: much of an effort as I should have. But I
Speaker 1: also think I was so so um, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: is the wrong word, but you know, they worked so
Speaker 1: many hours that they're off off set time I thought
Speaker 1: was so precious to them and I and I didn't
Speaker 1: want to insert myself into um into their that time
Speaker 1: of their their lives. I don't know how how you
Speaker 1: felt about that, but I just that's part of why,
Speaker 1: especially with Alexis and Lauren, I think that they had
Speaker 1: such a tough schedule. I mean I couldn't get away
Speaker 1: from him. I mean I couldn't get off me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what do you think of the um, Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: did you click right away with with Alexis because you
Speaker 1: had so many scenes with her, and and it seemed
Speaker 1: also effortless and great and that was that real? Was
Speaker 1: that translated from real life? Well, Alexis is so um,
Speaker 1: such a wonderful person. And I do think that as
Speaker 1: soon as I met her as a person, you just
Speaker 1: recognize that she's an intelligent, special individual. And I think
Speaker 1: that there's part of me that felt um protective of
Speaker 1: her right away as U as a fellow actor and
Speaker 1: and and and someone that recognizes how how unique of
Speaker 1: a person that she is. So maybe maybe some of
Speaker 1: that was something that is just insta shure. And I
Speaker 1: think that probably shows in how our characters related to
Speaker 1: each other, that we like and respect each other, um
Speaker 1: right off the bat. That she was so young, I
Speaker 1: mean yes, and she was very youngest. Yeah, yeah, she
Speaker 1: seemed very vulnerable, and yeah, she like it was all
Speaker 1: coming at her so quickly, and all the limousines and
Speaker 1: the speeches and the awards and all the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just like wow. You know, she
Speaker 1: was at n y U Film School, right, she wasn't
Speaker 1: even in their program, I don't think, and she went
Speaker 1: in for this thing, and she was modeling in New
Speaker 1: York and studying and you know, she's a smart kid
Speaker 1: and or was at the time a smart kid, and
Speaker 1: u um, I'm sure this just just blew her mind away,
Speaker 1: all this uh you know, this job and and the
Speaker 1: time it required and the time it took out of
Speaker 1: her day, you know, yeah, because I think she wanted
Speaker 1: she had other things she wanted to do obviously, right,
Speaker 1: and this was all just such a surprise, like what's
Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, And I think it's the kind of
Speaker 1: thing when you're lead on a television show that um
Speaker 1: that maybe people do know this or don't know this,
Speaker 1: but you don't. They don't have a lot of time
Speaker 1: for other things period, especially show like this with with
Speaker 1: where the days are very long, and yeah, there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of extra time, right, there's there's there's the
Speaker 1: extra time is filled with photo shoots, with radio and
Speaker 1: TV promotions and travel to do the same. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a full time job. I mean, the
Speaker 1: promotional side of it is a job in and of itself. Uh.
Speaker 1: And to take that on and then beyond set all
Speaker 1: those hours. My god. Um, So, Emily Kuroda, Mrs Kim
Speaker 1: was your mom. And what did you think of the
Speaker 1: relationship of Lane and Mrs Kim in comparison to Rory
Speaker 1: and Laurela. Oh, that's interesting, Well, I think that, um,
Speaker 1: the Lane Mrs Kim dynamic was not the same as
Speaker 1: Laura La and Emily, but was more similar to that
Speaker 1: dynamic than to Laura Lie Rory, where it's um people
Speaker 1: who have a very different idea of what what's the
Speaker 1: right way to live a life? Uh? Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: pretty as far as it being, it was very opposite
Speaker 1: of what Rory had with her mom. It really was,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. I mean it was, um, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: of course you love your mom and your respect your mom,
Speaker 1: but boy, she uh, she was really putting the handcuffs
Speaker 1: on you. She even in a town like stars Hollow,
Speaker 1: that was such a such a happy harmless place to live?
Speaker 1: What was she so afraid? No? I mean I can
Speaker 1: understand that if you're living in a big city, right,
Speaker 1: I mean if you're living in Chicago or New York
Speaker 1: or l A or San Francisco. But this is stars Hollow.
Speaker 1: This is this tiny little hamlet with all these cheery, funny,
Speaker 1: happy little people and nothing bad happens there. What was
Speaker 1: your mom's so a little place? Though? We don't Stars
Speaker 1: Hollow just like I loved it? Oh yeah, no question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a place where you have unlimited budget for festivals
Speaker 1: and you only have one stop light. Everybody knows each other,
Speaker 1: everybody's smart. That's kind of a lovely lula. Well that's
Speaker 1: what really made the relationships stick out for me, because
Speaker 1: I kept saying, what is what is Lane's mom so afraid?
Speaker 1: Will happen to her daughter? It? Stars Hollow, It stars allow,
Speaker 1: That's why they're there. Ye all right, here's another fan question.
Speaker 1: Uh you were um okay, so you recently said in
Speaker 1: in today's world, Lane Kim would be different. Why is
Speaker 1: that you used to? I guess you stated this in
Speaker 1: an interview When a fan wants to know how would
Speaker 1: Lane can be different? In today's world or would she
Speaker 1: and be different in today's world opposed to two thousand,
Speaker 1: so it's only one years later, would you be different?
Speaker 1: I think that in some ways, when you're in a
Speaker 1: small town, because of the access to UH people that
Speaker 1: have the same opinion that you do, basically different fandoms
Speaker 1: through the Internet, I think that in some ways, um
Speaker 1: Lane would have found UM connections to other people. She
Speaker 1: would have a secret UM and thriving internet life. I
Speaker 1: think that it's I think it's more fun that she
Speaker 1: didn't have that outlet. That she had to kind of
Speaker 1: live to find a way to live her her fantasy
Speaker 1: music life in the real world with UM and that
Speaker 1: was more of a of a challenge UH for her.
Speaker 1: But I think that would be a that would be
Speaker 1: a big difference is that she she would have been
Speaker 1: able to find connections UM with people that didn't live
Speaker 1: in stars hollow Um that she had something common with right,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, right, the way the Internet and social
Speaker 1: media has evolved, Yeah, I would if she would have
Speaker 1: like a fun I wonder if she would have like
Speaker 1: a fun um. Oh, this is a kind of a
Speaker 1: fun thing to do about if she would have a
Speaker 1: secret UH like Instagram where she did some kind of
Speaker 1: musical and I could see that I could see her
Speaker 1: producing these a little music videos um under the guise
Speaker 1: of another a secret identity. That that would be a
Speaker 1: fun Lane Kim storyline, and maybe it'll happen, I mean
Speaker 1: write it. Maybe. Um. Uh, you were the one person
Speaker 1: that knew all of these gentlemen. So I have to
Speaker 1: ask you, Okay, are you team Logan, team Jess or
Speaker 1: team Dean and tell us why I'm team Jess. I
Speaker 1: am team Jeff and uh. I say that because I
Speaker 1: always felt that the main problem with Jess is that
Speaker 1: he needed to um mature and find some vulnerability. I
Speaker 1: thought that was his only big and it's a big flaw,
Speaker 1: but that that was something that would happen over time.
Speaker 1: That I thought that their chemistry together and the way
Speaker 1: that they matched intellectually and the way that he really
Speaker 1: did their love for each other seems genuine. And I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't think that once he grew up that
Speaker 1: he would ever cheat on Rory or or or that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. Whereas I always sort of thought, maybe
Speaker 1: I questioned Logan, well that's a that's the downside of Logan,
Speaker 1: And then Dean, I just never thought was the right
Speaker 1: just match for her. Um. So that's why I'm team Jess,
Speaker 1: because I thought then really they would be right for
Speaker 1: each other. I feel exactly the same way. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I I felt I always felt that Logan
Speaker 1: there was just I don't know, you know, I just
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. I just didn't see it. There
Speaker 1: was there was a quality there that I just thought
Speaker 1: was not gonna work out for her. You know, there
Speaker 1: was He's hiding something, that character was hiding something, and
Speaker 1: it just was so apparent to me, and I think,
Speaker 1: I think that's you know, Matt Sukri adding that layer
Speaker 1: for the character, which I thought was a brilliant choice
Speaker 1: because it did make you distrust him a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I think you needed to um uh. And and Dean, gosh,
Speaker 1: you know, I just saw Rory's So I'm watching because
Speaker 1: I've never seen the episode, so I'm watching me before
Speaker 1: I do the podcast, right, so I'll watch it the
Speaker 1: night before and make notes, or the day up and
Speaker 1: make notes, and the day we record. And I just
Speaker 1: saw Rory's two birthday parties before we did the last
Speaker 1: podcast with George Bell, and I was stunned at how
Speaker 1: bold Dean was kissing her in Doses market that way,
Speaker 1: and then coming over Laurel I invited him to movie night,
Speaker 1: which Rory was horrified by, but she, you know, acquiesced
Speaker 1: and and and Laura I gave him the speech when
Speaker 1: Rory excused herself for a minute about don't hurt my kid,
Speaker 1: like what she was telling. What she was telling Dean
Speaker 1: was don't impregnate my daughter the way Christopher did me like,
Speaker 1: she's not getting on your motorcycle. And he goes, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have a motorcycle. She and she just looked
Speaker 1: at him and said she's not getting on your motorcycle,
Speaker 1: which meant don't knock don't knock her up, you know,
Speaker 1: because the whole town's watching you, kid. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not just where, it's the whole town, So don't mess
Speaker 1: with us. Um And then he had he had the
Speaker 1: gumption when she was done to say now is it?
Speaker 1: Can I talk now? And I was like, wow, he's eighteen,
Speaker 1: what is our seventeen in the show, Like he's a
Speaker 1: kid in high school and he just got to talk
Speaker 1: from a very protective mama bear. And it didn't face
Speaker 1: him didn't face him at all. So and then he
Speaker 1: mentions to Rory about, hey, do I when does the
Speaker 1: guest get to like, if we do this again? Can
Speaker 1: I pick the movie and have you seen Boogie Nights?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh no, and Laurel I wasn't around.
Speaker 1: Um so I'm thinking, wow, this is this is going
Speaker 1: down the wrong road here, And right away I was
Speaker 1: just like, I mean, I did a Scott Colin rant.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to do a Dean rant,
Speaker 1: but I think I might be doing one right now.
Speaker 1: Um So I agree. I totally agree with you. I
Speaker 1: agree with you on percent um. I think Jessice is
Speaker 1: perfect for her as he matures, if he matures. Yes,
Speaker 1: did Lane like Paris? Did Lane like Paris? Did you
Speaker 1: interact with Paris? Did you act with her a lot? No?
Speaker 1: I wish I love. I mean, wow, what a what
Speaker 1: a power husband actress. I wish there were more scenes
Speaker 1: or opportunities because she's so great. Mm hmmm. I don't
Speaker 1: know if she liked Paris. I mean there must have been.
Speaker 1: You might might not have been really aware of her,
Speaker 1: but I did. Did Did Rory confide in you at times?
Speaker 1: And when well? She went off to Yale, and I
Speaker 1: don't know. You know how much interaction you guys had
Speaker 1: once she went off to Yale because I haven't seen
Speaker 1: the episodes, but I don't remember any of scripts. So yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's when they or I'm sorry, when she went
Speaker 1: off to children. Yeah, I feel like the worlds were
Speaker 1: so separate. Um, that's a good question. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if she likes
Speaker 1: I can't believe. This is the first time I've think
Speaker 1: I've been I've been asked it or have thought about it.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to us. Um. Um, So you love
Speaker 1: Lane love music? Did you share this love of music
Speaker 1: with your character? Are you a music not No, I
Speaker 1: have very little music knowledge, although I do. I will
Speaker 1: say the last piece of music that I really fell
Speaker 1: in love with was Leonard Cohen's Um album that he
Speaker 1: came out with just before he passed, which I love
Speaker 1: even still every time I listened to it. Wanted darker.
Speaker 1: I would say that that and that seems like something
Speaker 1: that Lane would like. I think that's a crossover. But
Speaker 1: then the other one, you know, that's not a crossover,
Speaker 1: probably a spin Doctors like I love the Spin Doctors.
Speaker 1: I do not think that Lane Kim would have that
Speaker 1: in her list. I think she's be too snooty to
Speaker 1: admit that she had the Spin Doctors in there. So
Speaker 1: we all know, say, on the music subject, we all
Speaker 1: know that Lane played the drums. Did you enjoy learning
Speaker 1: how to play the drums? Because that was required? I
Speaker 1: did love it. Who taught you? Jeanie? I forget her
Speaker 1: last name, but she was a friend of um Helen
Speaker 1: and Dave's and who actually played drums in the band
Speaker 1: that Dave that the actual day Grabowski plays in. She
Speaker 1: was my drum teacher. So every week we would get
Speaker 1: together and play for like a couple of hours or
Speaker 1: something like that. Does she have you listen to certain
Speaker 1: drummers and to try to play along with them? Oh?
Speaker 1: I wasn't even at that point yet. I mean she
Speaker 1: just did, like very rudimentary thing. Um. Yes, but I
Speaker 1: have been told that my four on the floor is
Speaker 1: pretty decent by Sebastian Bachiven. He was like, oh, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you're not bad again. Uh So I take that as
Speaker 1: a god. So listen. I know we're going a little
Speaker 1: bit out of order with this next question, but you know,
Speaker 1: the writers had Lane wait to have sex until she
Speaker 1: was married. How did you feel about this? H As
Speaker 1: an actor, what a great fun, comedic thing to play
Speaker 1: that you waited to long to have sex and it
Speaker 1: was terrible? Um. But then as a fan, I kind
Speaker 1: of feel bad for this kind of goes back to
Speaker 1: the thing I said before, like Lane's life is pretty rough,
Speaker 1: Like she waited all this time, and the first time
Speaker 1: that she had sex, it's uh terrible, and she gets
Speaker 1: pregnant with twins? Are we assume that it happened right away?
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know. It's mixed. What is
Speaker 1: your favorite memory of kil More girls? There's just too many, right,
Speaker 1: They're just flooding in. Yeah, I mean, I guess one
Speaker 1: of the one of my favorite ones is getting to
Speaker 1: film with Emily Corona on the time where things all
Speaker 1: really start to fall apart, where Lane gets kicked out
Speaker 1: of the house. That was really fun. I think I'm
Speaker 1: glad I got to stay with the character long enough.
Speaker 1: Where the you you could say that the Rory Lane
Speaker 1: um dynamic was the biggest one in Lane's life, but
Speaker 1: I but I would even venture to say that it
Speaker 1: was her and her mom and so to stay with
Speaker 1: a relationship long enough to that that core relationship in
Speaker 1: her life has a chance to change is interesting. So
Speaker 1: I think I was glad that I got to spend
Speaker 1: enough time with that relationship to see a change. You know,
Speaker 1: I I want to ask my own question here, what
Speaker 1: what was Emily Corona like to work with? I mean,
Speaker 1: she was so wonderful you guys had such a great
Speaker 1: dynamic and the comedy was flying off you too? What
Speaker 1: what was she like? She is is fantastic as an actress,
Speaker 1: and she's probably the person that I know and spend
Speaker 1: time with the most off you know offset um. So
Speaker 1: I've seen her work in a lot of different ways,
Speaker 1: and she's fantastic. I mean, the emotional depth of Emily
Speaker 1: is incredible, and she she's also someone that's very um
Speaker 1: different from her character and it's obviously she's able to
Speaker 1: access that that side of it. But you know, something
Speaker 1: that people wouldn't necessarily know about Emily is like what
Speaker 1: a tech head Emily is? You know, she is very
Speaker 1: different than um then I think you would think of
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim and and so I I just love everything
Speaker 1: that she brought and I do. I would say that
Speaker 1: as soon as that was. One of the things I
Speaker 1: remember from the pilot is that I was a little
Speaker 1: worried about who they might have cast as my mom.
Speaker 1: I just knew that was going to be such an
Speaker 1: important role in in the show. And when I showed
Speaker 1: up to set and when I saw Emily and when
Speaker 1: you did that first take, I just there was so
Speaker 1: much joy in my heart because I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: they got it right, Like this actress is exactly what
Speaker 1: I want for this character, and this is going to
Speaker 1: be so much fun to playoff of her. It was.
Speaker 1: It was really it was a sense of relief, right,
Speaker 1: That's how I felt when I first started with Lauren
Speaker 1: and the very first diner scene up in Toronto was
Speaker 1: I did have joy in my heart as well. I said, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is going to be great because she was so
Speaker 1: good and it was just so you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it was easy for because
Speaker 1: you know, acting is hard, but it seemed easy for her,
Speaker 1: and it was just this is going to be great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when did you know that? When did you know that
Speaker 1: it was? When did you get the feeling that, oh,
Speaker 1: this is this is going to go to series and
Speaker 1: this is people are going to really fall in love
Speaker 1: with it. Did you have that a moment like when
Speaker 1: I read the script right from the script, right from
Speaker 1: the get go? Yeah, yeah. And then I think the
Speaker 1: other mom was when I got on the set the
Speaker 1: first time up in Toronto at Luke's Diner and I
Speaker 1: saw Lauren and Alexis rehearsing and they were sitting down
Speaker 1: at a table in Luke's Diner and they were rehearsing
Speaker 1: a scene and I thought, wow, look at that chemistry.
Speaker 1: And that's the other aha moment. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is gonna go. Yeah, you know, this will get picked up.
Speaker 1: And I remember having the conversation with Lauren at Amy's
Speaker 1: first Christmas party at her house. Uh, like, you know,
Speaker 1: we were outside and like, how long you think it's
Speaker 1: going to go? And she said a couple of years
Speaker 1: and I said five years, and you know, we just
Speaker 1: kind of knew, you know, it was gonna go. And
Speaker 1: you were one of the first people I met when
Speaker 1: I went up there. Well, when I came from the
Speaker 1: hotel in my jogging suit because the airline had lost
Speaker 1: my luggage, and I went to that five star French
Speaker 1: restaurant and they let me in and there you were,
Speaker 1: and you and Lauren were there that you were the
Speaker 1: first and we sat in the in the bar and
Speaker 1: had a drink and got to know each other. You
Speaker 1: were the first people I met. Isn't that funny? Timothy
Speaker 1: Hutton was in the corner and I thought he was
Speaker 1: part of the show, and said, what's Timothy Hutton doing here?
Speaker 1: Is he part of the show? Because everybody was staying
Speaker 1: at that hotel. Everybody, all the actors in town doing
Speaker 1: film and TV projects stay at that hotel, so that
Speaker 1: restaurant was very popular. How different would it have been
Speaker 1: if we we had shot the show in Toronto? Do
Speaker 1: you think, Oh, that's a good question. Um, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it would have been great regardless. But that
Speaker 1: was such a tough show to schedule. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: hard to imagine being in a And I did a
Speaker 1: series in in Canada, UH in Vancouver. Right after UH Gilmore,
Speaker 1: I went and did Aliens in America up in Vancouver.
Speaker 1: And it's tough to be away from home like that.
Speaker 1: And we only did a year and it was a
Speaker 1: great show and great writing and great actors and the
Speaker 1: whole thing. But it's tough. It's really hard and some
Speaker 1: people and the cast were really struggling with being away
Speaker 1: from home and it was really hard for them. And uh,
Speaker 1: I yeah, it's it's hard, you know, it's hard. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm glad they decided. But I remember they took a vote.
Speaker 1: They asked everybody, you know, what do you want to do,
Speaker 1: and everybody said, l a not to knock Toronto. It's
Speaker 1: a great city. It's one of the great cities of
Speaker 1: the world. But I don't think anybody wanted to be
Speaker 1: away from home because we knew it was going to
Speaker 1: be a five at least a five year commitment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah, so it's amazing, Uh what people do for
Speaker 1: their craft and to leave their home for five years
Speaker 1: and you know, but and people do it. They relocate
Speaker 1: and people relocate to South Africa to do a series
Speaker 1: and it's just like wow. Yeah. Anyway, Um, what was
Speaker 1: your favorite episode? Oh that's hard to say. I mean,
Speaker 1: even speaking about, uh, the pilot. I think there's something
Speaker 1: sweet about the pilot. When I'm asked about what my
Speaker 1: favorite episode does, I think about the beginning and the ends.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's because of just looking
Speaker 1: back and appreciating the whole the whole thing of it.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, getting to shoot, just the newness
Speaker 1: of of of of shooting a pilot and all of
Speaker 1: those mistakes I made also, like I remember, I remember
Speaker 1: mistakes really well. Here's a silly thing like, um, I
Speaker 1: think this was in the pilot. In any case, it
Speaker 1: was sometime early on. It might not have been the pilot,
Speaker 1: but it was sometime early on where I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't even understand. Sorry, I shouldn't admit this, but you know,
Speaker 1: it was a way back when I didn't even understand
Speaker 1: like all of the parts that you need to shoot
Speaker 1: a scene. So I would come and I remember there
Speaker 1: was this big scene and we were shooting the Master,
Speaker 1: and we shot the Master, and I thought that I
Speaker 1: was done. And I thought, oh, when when you're done,
Speaker 1: you just go back to your trailer. And I just
Speaker 1: took it upon myself to walk away from set. And
Speaker 1: I do remember thinking that I remember hearing that they
Speaker 1: couldn't find me, you know, like they were trying to
Speaker 1: shoot the rest of the scene. I thought I was done, um,
Speaker 1: and there, uh no, we have to go find her
Speaker 1: on the Warner Brothers lot. And so so then I learned,
Speaker 1: oh no, this no, this is gonna take a while.
Speaker 1: I need to do this whole process. It's not just goodness,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, where's Lane exactly? You know, I made
Speaker 1: a confession on this on this podcast when we started,
Speaker 1: I did borrow a few things. Borrow, I'll use that
Speaker 1: term borrow from the set. Did you borrow anything from
Speaker 1: the set the way I did? Um? There was I
Speaker 1: there was some and it was not yeah, it was
Speaker 1: my glasses from the It was from the uh. Well,
Speaker 1: because here was the thing, in my defense, when we
Speaker 1: finished the first the actual series, we didn't know we
Speaker 1: were coming back or not, and those were my actual
Speaker 1: glasses and they and so those are lost to wherever
Speaker 1: the world those are, and so when we came back,
Speaker 1: I really wanted to have my character glasses from the revival,
Speaker 1: and so I kind of I did what about what
Speaker 1: did you? What did you borrow? Perfectly understandable. Nobody can
Speaker 1: fault here for that. The question isn't what what did
Speaker 1: I borrow? It's what didn't? Good Lord, I have a
Speaker 1: whole treasure trove of things, but they were being offered
Speaker 1: to me as it as it wound down, and that's
Speaker 1: how I knew there was a good chance that we
Speaker 1: weren't coming back. I didn't know. Well I didn't either,
Speaker 1: but it's like, why, why, why why is the props
Speaker 1: department saying you know? I mean, were they privy to
Speaker 1: the negotiations? I guess because because of the first to know,
Speaker 1: because the construction crews the first to know, right because
Speaker 1: they got to tear it down and build something. So
Speaker 1: I something comes on their schedule, like, hey, they're not
Speaker 1: coming back, and this other show is coming in, and
Speaker 1: we got a timeline here to tear this stuff down
Speaker 1: and build a new sets, because that's what takes a
Speaker 1: lot of time is building those sets. So they know
Speaker 1: right away. So I guess they got an alert or
Speaker 1: they had they had prior knowledge, and I just and
Speaker 1: then I was up in Toronto actually making a film,
Speaker 1: and when I got the word from my manager saying
Speaker 1: this show has been canceled, I was like, well, I
Speaker 1: kind of it was shocking, but I kind of knew
Speaker 1: it already because because I was being offered stuff from
Speaker 1: I got the whole diner because you can film Gilmore
Speaker 1: Girls because you have so many props of the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I tried to get on the you know, the the
Speaker 1: tour route, Come on in, you know five bucks you
Speaker 1: can go, Luke stannerd I gotta set up in my
Speaker 1: living room. So okay, So here's a Shawn Gun question.
Speaker 1: He says he keeps in contact with you the most.
Speaker 1: H So who do who do you keep in contact
Speaker 1: the most? Within the cast? Is there somebody are you
Speaker 1: cheating on? Shawn Gun? Alright, Sean Gun your one and
Speaker 1: only or more of a group thing? Because Sean and
Speaker 1: John Cabrera know each other very right, right, So I
Speaker 1: was actually over at John's house and Sean was there
Speaker 1: too with his with his wife Toosh. So yes, those
Speaker 1: between um Sean and John who know each other, Um
Speaker 1: and I've been to both of their weddings since the
Speaker 1: show has ended. And then Emily Coroda would probably be
Speaker 1: the groups of people. Okay, So we have a segment
Speaker 1: now called rapid Fire. Are you ready to answer questions
Speaker 1: thrown at you quickly? Yes, don't be scared? All right,
Speaker 1: you're ready? Here we go. How do you take your
Speaker 1: coffee black? Why don't? Why am I lying already with
Speaker 1: with oat milk? It's this rapid fire is very revealing
Speaker 1: with oat milk? Okay, why did you? Why did you?
Speaker 1: I don't know already. Next, well, we already know, we already,
Speaker 1: you already answered this question. We already know your team,
Speaker 1: just so we don't have to ask it. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you anywhere your team logan team just our team,
Speaker 1: team team, who's the daddy uh um logan best memory
Speaker 1: of Gilmore girls. We already asked this, but go ahead
Speaker 1: of answer. Um the pilot or um walking around before
Speaker 1: we filmed the wedding sequence and looking at how beautiful
Speaker 1: they had made the set. That was beautiful from from
Speaker 1: the Netflix reboot, right, Yes, yeah, that was that was
Speaker 1: really pretty. That was the most photographed. I mean, everybody
Speaker 1: was tell the iPhones out photographing the heck out of that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have tons of pictures from that. I even have
Speaker 1: like slow mo fancy iPhone edited photos of Lauren when
Speaker 1: the snow was falling on her after the wedding. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I told her to walk down the stairs. Amy said,
Speaker 1: come on down the stairs, and I'm like wondering, why
Speaker 1: the hell am I not in this shot? So I
Speaker 1: whipped up my iPhone and I started taking pictures and
Speaker 1: filming it. And she said you can't do that, and
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, watch me watch. I stole a few
Speaker 1: of those. I gave him away. But give for you,
Speaker 1: give for you. Um, what show are you you show
Speaker 1: your binge watching right now? Um? What did I just? Oh?
Speaker 1: I rewatched Atlanta and my husband is going nuts. Sports
Speaker 1: such a good show, alright, cast? Remember you texted most
Speaker 1: recently John Cabrera. Okay, so let's go. So that's it
Speaker 1: for Rapid Fire. You did really well. You only lied once.
Speaker 1: People usually lie two or three times. We usually get
Speaker 1: people right away. We got your right away. You said black,
Speaker 1: but you take it with oat milk. Don't don't be
Speaker 1: bothered by this. Everybody does it. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: So listen. You were also on Who Lose the First?
Speaker 1: And you join the cast of Prodigal Son, which which
Speaker 1: God canceled. But everybody should watch that show. What a
Speaker 1: fantastic show. Tell us tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: that show. What was that? Like? I loved it? It
Speaker 1: was a really um special show about a a serial
Speaker 1: killer and the son who loves him but is a
Speaker 1: a profiler, grows up to be a profiler. And I
Speaker 1: get to play a quirky or got to play a
Speaker 1: quirky medical examiner who is so intelligent about her job,
Speaker 1: but very socially awkward and like like we were talking
Speaker 1: about Lane up having two things that don't mesh well together.
Speaker 1: I love I love that she was so confident in
Speaker 1: one area of her life and so deficient in another
Speaker 1: air of her life. UM. So right off the bat
Speaker 1: when I read that uh script, I got excited about
Speaker 1: getting a chance to do that. Right. Um did you
Speaker 1: get to I didn't. I don't really watch television, um,
Speaker 1: other than the financial channels. Uh, but I love Michael Shannon.
Speaker 1: I just love his work. Uh. He was brilliant, Frost Nixon.
Speaker 1: He was just anything the guy does. Uh. Did you
Speaker 1: get to work with him a lot? You know? That
Speaker 1: was one of the Uh one of my favorite moments
Speaker 1: on Prodigal Son is that we had once one um
Speaker 1: seen together where our characters meet. And what was fun
Speaker 1: about that is that on paper, um, it was was
Speaker 1: a great scene written, but because of who he is
Speaker 1: when I when I showed up and we started to
Speaker 1: rehearse and kind of discover on the day, what happened is, um,
Speaker 1: my characters are enamored with him, and I started to
Speaker 1: giggle and laugh about a joke. Adres is not necessarily funny,
Speaker 1: but she thinks she's funny sometimes, and so she sort
Speaker 1: of makes a joke that I start giggling at. During
Speaker 1: rehearsal his character, it finds it funny as well. By
Speaker 1: the time we get to what that moment is and
Speaker 1: what what is printed and exists as that scene, we're
Speaker 1: full on belly laughing at each other during that scene.
Speaker 1: And that's just something that's not it wasn't written that
Speaker 1: we laugh. We share a laugh together. But because of
Speaker 1: because he's the kind of actor that is willing to
Speaker 1: go down whatever road is, uh is, it shows up
Speaker 1: on the day I got to walk down a little
Speaker 1: path with him, and so he's the kind of person
Speaker 1: that you would love to have other scenes with because
Speaker 1: you're you're going to be surprised by whatever he brings
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, which is which is a really uh
Speaker 1: um excellent point you make about the acting process is
Speaker 1: to trust what you have on the day. If you've
Speaker 1: done the work, if you're invested in the character, something arrives.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to arrive. So don't ignore it because that's
Speaker 1: the gift. That's what all your work and all your
Speaker 1: research is bringing forth. So don't you know, and then
Speaker 1: you sometimes get a director like don't do that and
Speaker 1: say why it's it's here, Yeah, this is this is
Speaker 1: what I'm going with and don't you know, don't rain
Speaker 1: on my parade. Yeah yeah, yeah, And and it is
Speaker 1: amazing that. Uh. Sometimes you'll you'll get an actor that
Speaker 1: allows all that, like you know, the head of the
Speaker 1: cast and the big star and the whole thing, and
Speaker 1: they love that and that's why they're in that position
Speaker 1: because they know that that's the gold. UM. Loved catching up.
Speaker 1: Love to have you back on. We have a lot
Speaker 1: more to talk about and uh and really, I mean,
Speaker 1: Keiko is truly one of the unsung, underappreciated actors working
Speaker 1: in the business right now, um, and has been working
Speaker 1: in the business for a long time. UM. And all
Speaker 1: you have to do is, you know, the thing that
Speaker 1: impressed me most about your skills as an actress was
Speaker 1: that drunk scene you played at that that party. And
Speaker 1: I forget what episode it was, but I saw a
Speaker 1: clip of it and I and I was just amazed
Speaker 1: at how you just nailed that and the comedy coming
Speaker 1: out of that. I forget what the episode was, and I,
Speaker 1: like I said, I didn't see the episode, but I
Speaker 1: did see a clip I so I saw it in
Speaker 1: you know where I saw it. I saw it on
Speaker 1: the A d R stage when I had the loop
Speaker 1: lines and that was a couple of scenes. And the
Speaker 1: guy that was in there that ran the A d
Speaker 1: R stage, he said, you got to see the scene
Speaker 1: at Keiko. I mean, he said, it's just freaking amazing.
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, let me say it and he
Speaker 1: played it and I was like, wow, you know, so
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing. You're one of the best
Speaker 1: out there. I wish you all the best and I
Speaker 1: hope you come back. Um and go go pick up
Speaker 1: her book called No Mistakes, and it is a an
Speaker 1: artist workbook because she knows what she's doing on a set.
Speaker 1: She knows she knows the acting game, and she knows
Speaker 1: the craft and it's a skill set and Keikos get
Speaker 1: the skills. Um. So if you're feeling down and you're
Speaker 1: frustrated in your life or your career and you're an actor,
Speaker 1: just work on your skills. Just keep working to acquire skills,
Speaker 1: because it's a daily commitment to improving those skills, little
Speaker 1: by little by little, that's all it is. It's nothing
Speaker 1: to get down about and when you get the skills honed,
Speaker 1: when they're ready and you can display them, you will
Speaker 1: get work. It's as simple as that. So keep working.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, Keiko and uh being an inspiration
Speaker 1: to everybody, and we'll talk soon. Okay, awesome, thanky, all right,
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