1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird. This 11 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: is Strange Thing is Women's Joshua Warren. I am Joshua B. Warren, 12 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: and each week on this show, I'll be bringing a 13 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments 14 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: you can do at home, and a lot more. On 15 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: this edition of the show, my surprise guest, I call 16 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: this seventy eight years in Texas. I met my wife 17 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Lauren almost thirty years ago, and we became romantic because 18 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: I was well, I don't know, maybe a little bit unprofessional. 19 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. You see, I was hired by a 20 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: group to guide a special Haunted bus tour. Only time 21 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: this particular tour ever happened, by the way, and she 22 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: was a customer. She was a guest on my Haunted 23 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: bus tour, and the fact of the matter is she 24 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: just could not resist the charismatic, muscular tour guide, and 25 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: so I ended up giving her a VIP experience. She 26 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: told me that she was from Texas. She was mainly 27 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: raised in Katie, Texas, near Houston, and I didn't know 28 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: anything about Texas, but I was always interested in Texas, 29 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: and so it became clear that, you know, obviously, as 30 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: our relationship was developing, I started spending more and more 31 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: time in Texas, you know, visiting her folks, and I 32 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: was fascinated by some of the conversations with Lauren's father, 33 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: now my father in law, a man named Charlie Munson. 34 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: He was born in rural Texas the same month and 35 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: year as the raw Well crash in New Mexico. Most 36 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: people say it was around July of nineteen forty seven, 37 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: and Charlie he was in the military, the Air Force. 38 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: In fact, Lauren was born in Seoul, South Korea because 39 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: of his work there at the time, and then he 40 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: worked in the oil business and traveled the world, and 41 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: I've just always been interested in his life. And so 42 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: I said to Lauren the other day, I said, you know, 43 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: your dad is getting close to eighty years old, his 44 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: mind as sharp as a tack. I should interview him 45 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: and ask him what the heck it was like growing 46 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: up in rural Texas back in the nineteen forties and fifties. 47 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: So again, his name is Charlie Munson. He lives alone now, 48 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, I'll be happy to do an interview. 49 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: And you know, celebrities contact me every day wanting to 50 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: be interviewed to remote a book or a show or 51 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: a movie or an event. But I don't usually do 52 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: interviews on this show. It's just not my main format 53 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: for this show. If you actually listen to this show 54 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, you know that. So I turned 55 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: down celebrities every single day. And so when I do 56 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: decide to interview someone, I want it to be a 57 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: real person. Thus, what you are about to hear is 58 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: an interview with a real person. My father in law. 59 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: He was born in Texas almost eighty years ago, and 60 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: he's going to tell us what that was like. And then, 61 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: of course I'm gonna ask him if he knows anything 62 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: about oh stuff like maybe the assassination of John F. 63 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: Kennedy in Dallas, Texas and the Texas good old boy system. 64 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: But look, there's nothing sensation. Well here you're about to 65 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: hear the phone call that I had with my father 66 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: in law a couple of days ago. And yes, he's 67 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: lived all over the place, but he was born in Texas. 68 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: He's in Texas now, So I call this seventy eight 69 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: years in Texas. Here we go, enjoy. Charlie Munson, Welcome 70 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: to the show. 71 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: Thank you. 72 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: You know, Charlie, your daughter Lauren and I started dating 73 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: about thirty years ago, so I have known you for 74 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: a long time. So where were you born and where 75 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: are you now? 76 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: All right? 77 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 4: I was born in a little town called Mercedes, Texas, 78 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 4: which is Hidalgo County. It's right on the border between 79 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: Texas and Mexico. And I'm currently living in a suburb 80 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: of Houston called Katie and been here since about two 81 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: thousand and nine. 82 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: I think it here, Mercedes, Texas. I'm looking it up 83 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: right now. I've never heard of it. So you're saying 84 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: it was right on the border, Yeah, it's right. 85 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: On the border. I looked it up just before. 86 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 4: And I think there's about sixteen thousand people there. You know, 87 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: I haven't been down there. We left there when I 88 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: was probably a year older, a little bit less. 89 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 90 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So now, what is your birthday? 91 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: It's July twenty first, nineteen forty seven. 92 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: So that makes you about seventy eight, is that right? 93 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: That's correct now. 94 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: As you probably know, that is the same month and 95 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: year when the Roswell crash happened in New Mexico. So 96 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: come on, Charlie, what do you know about it? 97 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, not much. I guess maybe they dropped you off 98 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: or something. Maybe I bounced sober from New Mexico. I 99 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: don't know. 100 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 1: Well that's interesting, all right. Well we'll get back to 101 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: to where you are shortly. But you know, as you know, 102 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: I was born in North Carolina on the East coast, 103 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: and my whole life I grew up hearing about like 104 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: like watching westerns with my parents, shows like gun Smoke 105 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: and Bonanza and Have Gun Will Travel and the Riflemen, 106 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: and so I always considered anything out west to be 107 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: out west to me. But when I met Lauren, she said, oh, 108 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Texas is not the old West. It's the South. Well, 109 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean, do you consider Texas to be part of 110 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: the Old West? 111 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: He is part of it. 112 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: I think, you know, the Central Park is probably more western. 113 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: If you go to the East Park, Texas, it's more southern. 114 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: I grew up in San Antonio, and. 115 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: When we spoke over there, we didn't at that time 116 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: have a really much of a Texas accent because we 117 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: had a lot of military bases there. There's like thirty 118 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 4: thousand military people there, so we didn't we didn't develop 119 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: an accent. I have it now more so than before. 120 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: Until I came to Houston, and it was like coming 121 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: down south. You know, everybody had a had a down 122 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: South accent. So you have to kind of flit Texas 123 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: into the central part of Texas is more western and 124 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: that's where the ranchers and stuff were. On the east 125 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: side is more farming communities. 126 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: So seventy eight years ago you were born, and I 127 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: guess it's safe to say rural Texas, right, So describe 128 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: for us what was it like as a child growing 129 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: up in that part of Texas. 130 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. Really. 131 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: It's it's like the old thing they say nowadays. You 132 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: know that our kids. We could we left it. You know, 133 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 4: we got up in the morning and then we we left 134 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: the house and we came back after dark, you know, 135 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: and a dinner. 136 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: And that's much the way I was raised. It was 137 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 3: we could. 138 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: We'd be out in the far and you know, we 139 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 4: had wooded woods around the area where we lived in 140 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: San Antonio and the park that I remember. Anyway, before 141 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: that we kind of lived in the downtown area. But 142 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: we just we were We had a creek, we had woods, 143 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: we had hills, We had a big gravel pit not 144 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: too far from the house, and we could play down 145 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 4: in there that it had been abandoned. 146 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: It was like a kid paradise, man. I mean it 147 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 3: was great. 148 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: Uh we didn't we of course we we We're pretty 149 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: much cowboys, yes, I mean as far as what we 150 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: watched on the movies and stuff like that. So we 151 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: carried our guns when we were like six and seven 152 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: years old, you know, played played cowboys and Indians and 153 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: that kind of thing. So it was you know, but 154 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: it was a good like It was was a lot 155 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: of fun. 156 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: So when you were uh child back then, what would 157 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: a treat be like, for example, you know, a birthday 158 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: or like a really special day. How how would someone 159 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: celebrate you. 160 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: Our family didn't really celebrate. I mean we got a cake. 161 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 4: That was about it. You know, we might get one 162 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 4: gift or something like that. I don't remember off the 163 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: top of my head. If nothing stands out in my 164 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 4: mind about it. It was just, you know, kind of 165 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 4: another day for everybody. My family was pretty much hard working. 166 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 4: My dad was anyway, and my mom later on when 167 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: she kind of got us into school we started, she 168 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: went to work. So it was it was pretty quiet really, 169 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 4: I mean birthdays were Christmas was a little bit more celebration, 170 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: you know, and but you know it was not anything 171 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: sect tactic or anything. 172 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: At what point did you decide that you wanted to 173 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: do so something particular with your life, you know, like 174 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a cowboy or whatever the 175 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: cliche is. 176 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I went with my uncles just uh we 177 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: were I was about twelve years old. I think my 178 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 4: uncles decided or they needed to bring in some spring 179 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 4: cab so they had they had least some land. I 180 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: think there was about a thousand acres up near a 181 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 4: little town called Goldie at Texas, and myself. 182 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: And my cousin. 183 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 4: And the two uncles. We left about five point thirty 184 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 4: in the morning and we got to the neil. They 185 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: got the horses and we saddled up the horses. They 186 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 4: saddled They saddled up to horses. I did, but they 187 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: saddled up to horses. And we went out into the 188 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: pasture to bring in the cows because they were having 189 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: their little cabs they wanted to. They had to do 190 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: some doctoring on them and they had to do some 191 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: I think they put some ear tags on them or 192 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: something like that. So we brought them in and I 193 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: took about all morning and it's real brushy down there, 194 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: with a lot of a lot of mesquite trees and 195 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: that kind of thing. They're a low mesquite but you 196 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: can't see very much. But anyway, we got them all 197 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: in and that's when I decided I did not want 198 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: to be a cowboy. Yeah, I'm telling you man. I 199 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: got run over about fourteen times by the cave. You know, 200 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: even the small caves they don't look like much, but 201 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: they can they can knock you down pretty good. And 202 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: my cousin got drug across the rope one and got 203 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: drug across the corral and stuff, you know, So it was. 204 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: That's when I decided that that wasn't something I wanted 205 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: to do. Maybe I ought to use my head. 206 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: Time for a break. 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Were there ever 229 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: any ghost stories or legends or such that you heard 230 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: growing up back then in those days? 231 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: Not really. I mean, uh, I can't think of anything 232 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: that my my uncles or my aunts or any of 233 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: that kind of thing ever ever talked about. 234 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: Nobody was superstitious or anything. 235 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: Huh No, not too much. 236 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: They were all you know, my dad's family was really 237 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: church oriented. My mother's family not so much, but still 238 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: was pretty religious and all that kind of stuff. So 239 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: it was one to my one to my mother's place. 240 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: We'd go down on Christmas sometime, and it was like 241 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: in the nineteen fifties, it was like going into it 242 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: was like dropping back into the eighteen hundred. At that 243 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 4: time in that area of Texas, they didn't have electricity. 244 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: Uh So we had kerosene lamps, we had wood stoves, 245 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: we had wood cook stoves, We had we had water. 246 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: We had a windmill and a mistern outside, but no 247 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: water in the house, no toilets in the house. 248 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: You know. 249 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: It was it was just like I guarantee, it was 250 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: just like going back, you know, fifty one hundred years 251 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 4: and like eighteen hundreds. 252 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: It was. 253 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: It was really I think back about it, it was 254 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: really was really an interesting time. 255 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Well, you know, speaking of that again, going back to 256 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: like these stories we hear about old gunslingers and whatnot. 257 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure when you were a kid or 258 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: a young man you met some really old guys who 259 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: probably went back to the eighteen hundreds. Did you ever 260 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: meet a guy who like killed somebody or had some 261 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: kind of wild story. 262 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, my grandfather, he was a sheriff in Leavaca County 263 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: back in the early nineteen hundreds, like you know five 264 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: stuff like that. He shot a guy in the legs, 265 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 4: was trying to escape, and they would He told the 266 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: story of our two brothers who had come into town 267 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: and they came into the town square and got a 268 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: hotel room that overlooked the town square, and this man 269 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: walked through the town square the next day and they 270 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: shot him, and so they put him on trial for murder, 271 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 4: and they asked him why that they had shocked this 272 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: guy and he had gotten their sister pregnant. 273 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: So they actually released them. 274 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 4: They didn't they didn't convict them. I didn't really meet 275 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 4: I met a lot of cowboys. I mean a lot 276 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 4: of old, old timey cowboys. They used to sit on 277 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: My uncle had had an old general store there and 278 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 4: panted a little count all Stanton, and they'd all sit 279 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 4: on the they had benches out front. They'd all sit 280 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: on the benches and smoke and talk tell stories. So 281 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: I used to listen to those, but I can't remember 282 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: too many of them. 283 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 3: But that's about it. 284 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: Back in the day, everybody used to smoke. 285 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: Huh oh, Yeah, yeah it was. I mean you look 286 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: at it, you know, you look at some of the old. 287 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: Old movies and stuff. I mean they were like chimneys, 288 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: they were sweep smoking all the time. But yeah, everybody 289 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 4: was smoking. I mean a lot of the guys that 290 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 4: came back from World War Two, I mean that was 291 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: one of I guess the only thing that kind of 292 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 4: calmed their nerves during World War two was you know, smoking, 293 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: so that became something they did. 294 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: Did you ever get into tobacco. 295 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: I smoked a little bit off and on, but I 296 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 4: never got into it. I smoked. I smoked one time 297 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 4: I was I was kind of getting it more into it, 298 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: and I went in the office. I bought a pack 299 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 4: of cigarettes, went in the office, and I was doing 300 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: my normal stuff in the office, and I smoked an 301 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: entire pack of cigarettes in the morning. 302 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: So I decided at that point I didn't want to 303 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: do that anymore because I couldn't taste anything for the 304 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: next Oh. 305 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, it is amazing, isn't it when you look 306 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: back at uh just yeah, the guys who would chew 307 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: big old balls of tobacco and like all the baseball players, 308 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: and it's like it was, yeah. 309 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 3: Put the snuff in between you lift and your teeth, 310 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: you know, and then you're you know, unfortunately you get 311 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 3: cancers from it. Yeah. 312 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So so you you found it enjoyable growing up? 313 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: Uh in those days, I mean, like, did you ever 314 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: use an outhouse? 315 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 316 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And when mainly when my grandma and my grandparents, 317 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: now you know, you had to go, if you had 318 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 4: to go, there was a fits there was a wire 319 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 4: fence around the main yard, and then there was a barnyard, okay. 320 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: And in the barnyard there was a cup of cows, 321 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: a couple of milk cows, and there was hog ten 322 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: and my uncle kept u I think they kept a 323 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: couple of horses. But there was one uncle had that 324 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 4: was he was real pretty sorrel colored horse, but he 325 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 4: was real mean and you had to watch for him 326 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 4: because when you went to the out house, which was 327 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 4: about twenty five yards from the house or something out 328 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: in the out in the barn yard area, you had 329 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 4: to watch for him because he'd kind of come after 330 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: you had Once time you had to, you had to 331 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: you had to kind of sprint out to the good toilet. 332 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 3: You know. It's kind of kind of spooky sometimes you're your. 333 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: Kids well you know, Uh, I'm just obviously thinking of 334 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: questions that are coming up as we talk. But I mean, like, 335 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: in your seventy eight years, what is what has been 336 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: your your scariest animal encounter. 337 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: Uh, that's that's a good question. 338 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: Like I'll give you an example. Twice in my life, 339 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: I have walked up on a black bear in the wilderness. Yeah, 340 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: and uh, there's nothing in my experience quite like me 341 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: standing there looking into the eyes of a black bear 342 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: and not knowing what's going to happen next. Uh. I've 343 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: never felt a more chilling and cold strike of fear 344 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: than that. Uh, you ever had such an encounter? 345 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: Uh? 346 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: We were in the creek that was down from my house. 347 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: We used to my. 348 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: Friends and I used to go down and we'd we'd 349 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 4: sane along the creek bed to catch minnows. And the 350 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: we were walking along and I was I was walking 351 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: next to the bank and some and the snake wrapped 352 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 4: around my leg and I jumped about pitting feed up 353 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 4: on the bank so he didn't get a chance to 354 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 4: bite me. I was already out of the water. But 355 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 4: there was water box and all, you know, all around 356 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: that creek. And when we used to hunt, h we 357 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: used to go fishing down in the little town called 358 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: Fan and there's a creek north of the town and 359 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 4: we used to go there and we would take our 360 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 4: fishing poles and we'd also take the twenty two or 361 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 4: four ten shotgun. 362 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: With us and a box of shells. 363 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 4: I mean, we were ten years old, ten twelve years 364 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 4: old and two guys with fish and one guy would 365 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 4: shoot snakes, you know, because the snake is when you 366 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 4: put the corpse in the water. 367 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 3: When they get the water, the water mockings and start 368 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: coming toward it. So we'd shoot and fish at the 369 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: same time. 370 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 4: I was we were walking. At one point, we were 371 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: walking toward a low bridge and my cousin yelled snake, 372 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 4: you know, And I said where And I looked down 373 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 4: and he had a shotgun and he shot right in 374 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 4: front of my down in front of my face, and 375 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: two pieces of snake went by my head. 376 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: So other than that, I don't think I've had too much. 377 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: Other than that, don't. 378 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: And I said a few words, I said a few 379 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: words that I shouldn't have too But anyway. 380 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is family friendly radio. Uh. So, you know, 381 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: before we kind of moved move into your adulthood, I mean, 382 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: so you said you had a good childhood. Would you 383 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: go back and relive that? 384 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah it was good. I mean, I 385 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 4: mean it was we were we weren't very well off. 386 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: We were I would say, in the upper lower class. 387 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 4: I guess, I don't know, And you know, it's that 388 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: part of it bothered me a little bit when I 389 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 4: was growing up. But just the life that we had 390 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 4: and where we lived, it was just it was like 391 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 4: just a fun deal, man. I mean every day was okay. 392 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: I don't remember ever being I mean when it would 393 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 4: even rain, you know, it was not a bad deal. 394 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: Just to stay in the house. 395 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 4: And I had little toy soldiers and stuff and I 396 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 4: played with them and that kind of thing when I 397 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: was a kid. But as got older, you know, I 398 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: went to a good high school. We got a we 399 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: had a really good class kids, and. 400 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: It was it was you know, it was enjoyable. 401 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: So how did your life proceed from growing up there 402 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: to college, to the military to corporate America? I mean, like, 403 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: what's the overall rundown? 404 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I transferred schools by freshman year in 405 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 4: high school because the school of country school that I 406 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 4: was going to lost its creditation with the state, which 407 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: is kind of bad, and we I transferred to the 408 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: school called Sam Houston. 409 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: All right, time for a break. You are listening to 410 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: me the Great and Terrible Joshua. People weren't interviewing my 411 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: father in law, Charlie Munson, who is close to eighty 412 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: years old, talking about what it has been like to 413 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: live in Texas for the past eighty years. And you know, 414 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: I think you know where this is going. Yes, we're 415 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna get into the Texas good old boy 416 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: system and see, uh see what he has to tell 417 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: us about that. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're listening to 418 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 419 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be back after these 420 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeart 421 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, 422 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: Joshua Pee Warren, and this is the show where the 423 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: unusual becomes usual, and it's kind of a special edition 424 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: of the show. As you know, I don't generally do 425 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: interviews that often period, but in this particular case, I'm 426 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: letting you hear a conversation that I recently had with 427 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: my father in law, Charlie Munson, who is seventy eight 428 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: years old. He was born in rural Texas. He's in 429 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: Texas right now, and we're talking about his life and 430 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: whatever he can tell us about what he has experienced 431 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: going back for the past well let's just say eighty years. 432 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: So back to the conversation. 433 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: I transferred through the school called Sam Houston, and I 434 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: really enjoyed myself there I trans with a good friend 435 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 4: of mine from me Central. He was a guy who 436 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: lived down the street from me, and he went back 437 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: to the school, gained discreditation, he went back, and I 438 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 4: went ahead and stayed in San Houston, and I really 439 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 4: enjoyed it. I played football there and I ran track 440 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 4: and class president, and you know, that was fairly good academically. 441 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: But then from there I went. 442 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 4: To Trinity University in San Antonio. I don't I'm not 443 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 4: exactly sure how I got a scholarship there, but I did, 444 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 4: which I managed to lose my freshman year with my 445 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 4: grades and partying. 446 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: Too much, and. 447 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 4: So I went for about three years and I kind 448 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: of my dropped out and got married and went in 449 00:27:53,840 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 4: the military. I was stationed at Telly Air Force Base, 450 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: which is a B fifty two C five A, which 451 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 4: is seven forty seven cargo playing for the military. They 452 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: overhauled them there. They had a hangar, there was one 453 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 4: mile in circumference and they could park thirteen B fifty 454 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 4: two s and that thing by just at one time. 455 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 4: But I worked there for about three years and then 456 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 4: I was since Korea kind of got me. I really 457 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: liked the orient that was I really enjoyed that area. 458 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: Lauren was born in Korea. She was born in If 459 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: you watch any mash movies, she was and they talked 460 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 4: about the one hundred and twenty firsty Back Hospital that's 461 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 4: where she was born. And from there I got out 462 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: and I went back back to the US and went 463 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 4: to work for Southwest Research Organization and got my degree finally, 464 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 4: and then I went to Houston and that's kind of 465 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: started my career in the and engineering, construction and that 466 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 4: kind of thing where I got my went overseas for 467 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: about almost twenty years. I was overseas in Southeast Asia, 468 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: at least Australia and that kind of thing. 469 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: So give me, give me a quick list of just 470 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: some of the countries you've visited. Were off the top 471 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: of your head. 472 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I've been to Denmark. I've been I've flown 473 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: I've flown through Germany. I've been to England. I've been 474 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 4: to Panama. I've been to Mexico. I've been to Saudi Arabia. 475 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 4: I've been to India. I've been to Thailand. I've been 476 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 4: to Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines and Australia. 477 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: And what what is the weirdest thing. You've eaten. 478 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: Birds in this soup, I guess. 479 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 4: I guess people, if you understand what that is and 480 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 4: what is made from it, what is it? It's basically 481 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 4: a bird regurgitating to make the too. It's like a 482 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: glue almost, and they use it to when they these 483 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 4: swallows or something in Philippines and areas like that makes 484 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 4: their nets and they so the people climb up these 485 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 4: deals and pull the nest down and then they boil 486 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 4: them and get this food and then make a soup 487 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: out of it. But it's it's the sweet taste in 488 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 4: it's almost like it's the same thing as honey. I mean, 489 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: bees regurgitate honey. That's the sounds terrible, but that's what 490 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 4: we eat. But this stuff was sweet. It was It 491 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 4: was really good. But oh, I've eaten curry fish head 492 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 4: that that you have a fish that probably would be 493 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 4: the head would be about six or eight inches in circumference, 494 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: and it would be in a big bowl with a 495 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 4: bunch of curry and and okra and there's some other 496 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 4: stuff and you put it over rice. Just it's amazing 497 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: how much meat's on the head of a fish that, 498 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: at least the big ones anyway, One of. 499 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: The reasons that you've got to travel so much is 500 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: because you were working in the oil business. 501 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, basically all in chemistry bit chemical business. We 502 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 4: were engineering archetra company called the KBR and we were 503 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 4: we built uh engineering. Most of the stuff that idea 504 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: was was with offshore platforms and that kind of stuff. 505 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: Basically I was I was purchasing manager and that kind 506 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 4: of thing for that kind of stuff, the manager. 507 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: So as a man who worked on the inside, how 508 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: would you in general describe the oil business? 509 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: I think now it's probably. 510 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 4: It's very profitable for the oil companies. Uh, they're tough. 511 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: They're tough customers, they really are. They're they're they're very 512 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 4: into your business all the time and they're sitting among 513 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 4: you all the time. 514 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: Uh. They like I. 515 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: Said, they're very they're very profitable. They really go into 516 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 4: places that people you know, sometimes you think that that's 517 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: really not a good place to go to, but they 518 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: do that and they it's probably one of the one 519 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 4: of the places, one of the kind of businesses that 520 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 4: where you are still in the exploration mode, meaning that 521 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 4: you're going into places like Poppi, New Guinea. You're going 522 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 4: into places that you know, like Sudan, and you're going 523 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 4: into you know, you're going into places that in a 524 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: lot of cases, you put yourself in harms way. 525 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: So how did you find out that John F. Kennedy 526 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: had been assassinated? 527 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: I was sitting in. 528 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 4: It was right before lunch, and I was sitting in 529 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: a chemistry class in high school my junior year was 530 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 4: when that happened. We were I don't think we're taking 531 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 4: a tip. We were just doing our normal doing our 532 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 4: I think we were in a lab. We had our 533 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 4: chemistry classes in labs, and I was just you know, 534 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 4: we were all just sitting there and there, all of 535 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 4: a sudden, they made an announcement over the intercom, the 536 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: school intercom, saying that he'd been assassinated or that he 537 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: had been shot. 538 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: At that time, we only knew that he had been shot. 539 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: And did that change the rest of the day. 540 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and everything went real quiet. Everybody was really pretty 541 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 4: down about it. You know, it was. 542 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: We weren't we weren't. 543 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 4: We all thought still kind of had our rose tended 544 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 4: glasses on at that time. We didn't realize people could 545 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 4: be so cynical and do that kind of stuff, you know, 546 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 4: And so it was It was kind of depressing for 547 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 4: the whole rest of the day and a couple of 548 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 4: days after that. 549 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: But they still gave you homework, didn't they. Oh yeah, 550 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: nothing's going to stop. 551 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 4: That, that's right. We actually yeah. 552 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: So, I mean, I mean, obviously, you know, you you 553 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: have deep roots in Texas. I mean, have you heard 554 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: any rumors about what happened to JFK that you can share? 555 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 4: Well, just I mean, recently, they finally, I think admitted 556 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: that there may have been more than one shooter, you know, 557 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 4: I mean, the government I think admitted that. I don't 558 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 4: know if they did or not, but you know, it 559 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: was pretty obvious that if you've ever been around guns, 560 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 4: you've seen things being shot. It was pretty obvious that 561 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 4: he was shot from the front, not the back. At 562 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 4: one point where he lost the back of his head, 563 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 4: you know, where his wife climbed across the trunk trying 564 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 4: to get part of. 565 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: His gold or whatever. 566 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 4: That's awful, But I mean, it's pretty obvious that maybe 567 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 4: it couldn't have been one shooter, you know, even to 568 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 4: people that looked at him even back then. But you know, 569 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 4: the government claimed and did all their do all their investigation. 570 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: Which basically was just a cover up. 571 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, there's still a lot to be revealed 572 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: about that. 573 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know why they worry about it at 574 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 4: this point. I mean, you know, we're so far removed 575 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 4: from that now, and uh, they could come clean and 576 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 4: I don't think there would be a big, any kind 577 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 4: of big situation about it. 578 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: Well, so you know, the idea is that, you know, 579 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: there was obviously a good old boy system in Texas, 580 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: and I mean obviously Johnson, his vice president, was from Texas, 581 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: and Johnson was involved in a lot of shady dealings 582 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: they say, and then and then you know, the whole 583 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: thing went down in Texas where a lot of the 584 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: military uh industrial complex is rooted that was trying to 585 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: ramp up what was happening in Vietnam and all that. 586 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, do you do you believe that have 587 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: you have you seen evidence of some kind of a shady, 588 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: good old boy system in Texas that may have had 589 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: something to do with it? Okay, I think that is 590 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: a good spot for us to stop for our break. 591 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, as I mentioned earlier, I grew up really 592 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: knowing very little about Texas firsthand. And then when I 593 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: met Lauren, of course that all changed, and I've now 594 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: spent quite a bit of time in Texas and I 595 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: actually did an episode of this podcast, episode two thirty 596 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: nine of this podcast called Strange Things, and episode two 597 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: thirty nine is called Here's Who Killed JFK? And this 598 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: is my opinion, but I think I do a pretty 599 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: good job of substantiating it. I you know what, I 600 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: don't even think Charlie has U has listened to that, 601 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: and I know he's listening to this show. So Charlie, uh, 602 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: maybe you should go listen to episode two thirty nine 603 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: of this podcast and we can talk a little bit 604 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: afterward about what you think. But anyway, when we come 605 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: back from this brig, not only are we going to 606 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: sort of like see what he thinks about that concept 607 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: of the good old boy system in Texas and how 608 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: it may it may or may not have applied to 609 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: something like the JFK thing, but also like, what's the 610 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: conclusion here? I mean, after eighty almost eighty years of life, 611 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: what ultimately has Charlie learned? It's fascinating. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. 612 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 613 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network, and I will be 614 00:37:42,080 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this 615 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 616 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: Coast a m paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, 617 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, And here is the conclusion of my 618 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: recent conversation with my father in law, Charlie Munson seventy 619 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: eight years in Texas. I call it here we go. 620 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: Have you have you seen evidence of some kind of 621 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: a shady, good old boy system in Texas that may 622 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: have had something to do with that? 623 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 4: It's possible, think I mean, I know Johnson was tied 624 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 4: in the two guys that formed a company called Brown 625 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 4: and Ruthe. There was there was a lot of rumors 626 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 4: about Johnson. They basically bought Johnson, you know, I think 627 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 4: that you know, there's there were several areas where I 628 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 4: don't know if it was a combination of different people, 629 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 4: but I mean, there was there was speculation about the 630 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 4: mafia being involved because he because his brother Attorney General, 631 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 4: was going after the mafia, which basically had helped him 632 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 4: get elected. You know that's rumor I heard or one 633 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 4: roomor you know, Cuban, some Cuban involvement, some mafia involvement. 634 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, some CIA involvement. I mean, we just 635 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know why they won't just tell 636 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 4: us what happened. 637 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: Was But but you don't have any You've not seen 638 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: personally any evidence of such a thing. 639 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 3: No, no, no, What. 640 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: Are your thoughts on the concept of God? 641 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 3: Good question. I was raised. 642 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: I was raised in a very religious family. I kind 643 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 4: of stepped away. I stepped away from I was in 644 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 4: a church probably two times a week or three times 645 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 4: a week, sometimes almost every week of my life until 646 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 4: I was in my late teens. When I was in 647 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 4: my late teens, I kind of stepped away from that, 648 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 4: and I stayed away from it every since. I believe 649 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 4: there is some I mean, it's it's hard for your 650 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 4: mind to think about that. I am sitting here and 651 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 4: I can see my hand, and I can talk to 652 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 4: you on the phone, and your mind can only go 653 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 4: so far and then it stops. 654 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: We can't we. 655 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 4: Can't get past the bail. I guess I think there's 656 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 4: something up, you know, something somewhere that's more powerful than 657 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 4: what we are. And I do pray, but I don't 658 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 4: I don't go to church. 659 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 3: Uh, I don't. I don't need that institution to believe 660 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 3: what I believe. 661 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 4: And I yeah, I just, I just I feel like 662 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 4: if there is a God, and then it's between he 663 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 4: and I and and nothing else. I don't need anybody 664 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 4: in between. I don't need I don't need to go 665 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 4: to church. 666 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 3: To have it, have that. 667 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 4: Communicational I guess the best way to put it, I 668 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 4: don't need anybody in the intervening for me. 669 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: So you don't. You don't really try to define what 670 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: it is. It's just a sense that you have. 671 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 3: Huh, it's a sense that I have. 672 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I we had to come from somewhere. 673 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 4: I mean, but then but then your mind goes to 674 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 4: the fact that if we did, if something, if something 675 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 4: is there that is more powerful than a then what 676 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,959 Speaker 4: created that? You know, I mean, somebody had to create God. 677 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 4: I guess I don't know. I mean, I don't I'm 678 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 4: not sure. I don't know if we all flowed away 679 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 4: and become part of the ether and you know, just 680 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 4: kind of float around or what, you know. I'm not 681 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 4: afraid of death or anything. I'm you know, I'm afraid 682 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 4: of how I died. 683 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 3: I don't. I'm just not afraid of death. I don't. 684 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 3: I don't believe in hell. I'm sorry, but I don't. 685 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 4: I can't imagine a god that would do that to 686 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 4: someone or anybody, no matter how bad they are. 687 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 3: So I believe that if there's. 688 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 4: I think they whatever it was that that created us 689 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 4: or created this world or created this universe, he put 690 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 4: it in motion and that's it. He doesn't put his 691 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 4: finger in there and stopped this and move that and 692 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 4: change this, and you know, stop stop this from happening. 693 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 4: That doesn't happen. 694 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 3: It's our choice. You know. We we make our own misery. 695 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 4: If we are our our happiness, we do that ourselves. 696 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: Charlie Munson, what a great father in law. I agree, 697 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: Thank you sir for being on the program. And uh, 698 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: I agree with your conclusion that you've reached there. And 699 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: you know, it's like we can all overthink things, but 700 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's kind of interesting to just stop 701 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: and pause and accept the simplicity of of what's true 702 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: and what's not. So I just you know, I'm glad 703 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: that I was able to bring that conversation to all 704 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: of you so that we could learn from from this 705 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: man's experience. M I still have some time left though, 706 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: I still have some time left to feel. I don't 707 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: know what to do. I was kind of thinking maybe 708 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: that conversation was going to take up the show, but no, no, 709 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: there's still I have an idea. All right, all right, 710 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: get ready, I haven't done this in a while. See 711 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 1: if you can guess what is about to happen. Okay, 712 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 1: you're ready. I'm taking off my microphone, headset and stuff, 713 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: and I'm going to put it down. All right, here 714 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: we go. How horrible is that? That is the Aztec 715 00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: death whistle? And sometimes I get the funniest emails from 716 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: people when I, uh, when I play that or when 717 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: or when I blow that, because they say I was 718 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: dozing off. I like people like to go to sleep 719 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: to talk radio, and that that kind of wakes him 720 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: up out of it. Your ASTech death was I've never 721 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: blown it like right into the microphone. Let's see how 722 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: this sounds. It's actually not nearly as bad when it's close. 723 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: It's worse when you stand back. Oh well, I got 724 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: an email from a guy in Texas and he listened 725 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: to one of my shows, Episode two sixty two of 726 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: this podcast called strange things ghost Writers in the Sky, 727 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: and also it's kind of interesting because it's it's called 728 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: ghost Writers in the Sky and the strange case of 729 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: Audrey Munson. As far as we know, there's no relationship 730 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: between Charlie Munson and my in laws and Audrey Munson. 731 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: But if you don't know who Audrey Munson is, go 732 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: back and listen to episode two sixty two of this podcast. Anyway, 733 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: I was talking about ghost Writers in the Sky and 734 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: this fella he emailed me and he is in Corpus Christie. 735 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: His name is Martin, he said, mister Warren, my name 736 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: is Martin Blah. I don't want to give his last name. 737 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: He says. I live in Corpus Christi, Texas. I'm a 738 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: cross country truck driver and I took the attached photos 739 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,439 Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen. I have never let anyone see 740 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: these photos for fear of being labeled a nutjob and 741 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: losing respect from family and friends. Well join the clubs here, 742 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: he says. I found your podcast several weeks ago and 743 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: have been binge listening from episode one. I am currently 744 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: on episode seventy five listening to your fans sending emails 745 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: about their experiences and the respect you give these folks 746 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: is phenomenal and inspiring. I decided to send these pics 747 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: to you to get your response. I don't know if 748 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: you'll be able to see what I see, so here goes. 749 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: If your opinion deems these photos worthy of speaking about 750 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: or showing them to a broader audience, please use them 751 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,959 Speaker 1: as you wish. Sincerely, Martin, and he gives his phone 752 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: number as well. He says, these photos were taken just 753 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: southeast of Amarillo, Texas, on US two eighty seven. I 754 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: took them with an iPhone. I don't remember the model number. 755 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: I remember holding the phone out of the window of 756 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: my truck. If you need to contact me, blah blah blah, 757 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: thank you and have a blessed day. And then a 758 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: nice email, and he sent me some pretty crazy looking 759 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: pictures of the sky, you know, of like just but 760 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: see the thing is like I can't even really you 761 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: photo analysis anymore because that everything is just it's too 762 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: complicated now, you know, with drones and AI. So I 763 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: took his images and I sent them to Mobius, and 764 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: Mobius he's up on the latest and the greatest and 765 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: the cutting edge of all that. So We'll let you 766 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: know if we come up with anything that's noteworthy, but 767 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: thank you for sending those to me. All right, guess 768 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: what I've killed enough time. It is now time for 769 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: us all to take a deep breath. If you can 770 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: close your eyes, let us meditate together on making the 771 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: next week the best week ever for all of us. Here, 772 00:48:47,080 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: my friends, is the good Fortune tone. That's it for 773 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: this edition of the show. Follow me at Joshua P. Warren, Plus, 774 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 1: visit Joshuapwarren dot com to sign up for my free 775 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: e newsletter to receive a free instant gift, and check 776 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: out the cool stuff in the Curiosity Shop. All at 777 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 1: Joshuapwarren dot com. I have a fun one lined up 778 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: for you next time, I promise. So please tell all 779 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 1: your friends to subscribe to this show and to always 780 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: remember the Golden Rule. Thank you for listening, Thank you 781 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: for your interest and support. Thank you for staying curious, 782 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,399 Speaker 1: and I will talk to you again soon. You've been 783 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 784 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. 785 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 2: Well, if you like this episode of Strange Things, wait 786 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 2: till you hear the next one. Thank you for listening 787 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 2: to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network.