WEBVTT - Danielle LaPorte on Heart Centered Consciousness 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.400 Holy Human with Leanne Rhymes is a production of I 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:12.360 Heart Radio. Hello, my friends, Welcome, Welcome to the Holy 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:17.239 Human Podcast. I am very excited for today's conversation and 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.960 to share this conversation with you all. Daniel Report is 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:25.239 someone I've been following for a long time, and her 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.080 voice moves me tremendously. I've never had someone moved me 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.080 so deeply with their speaking voice, So there's something energetically 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.720 with her that I'm connected to in that way. She 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.320 instantly makes me cry in the best of ways. But 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:42.839 I'm always inspired by her vulnerability and her wisdom, and 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.760 I'm so honored that she came on this podcast to 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.080 share a bit of that wisdom with us. She is 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.360 one of Oprah Winfrey's super Soul One Leaders. She's also 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.520 a best selling author of some really incredible books I 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.560 highly recommend, and an incredibly gift and motivator and just 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.440 all around wise woman. She's also a dear friend of 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:37.120 mine and our guests on today's Holy Humane. Thanks Okay, 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.000 Danielle Looport, thank you so much for coming on the 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.760 Holy Human Podcast. I'm gonna start here. I literally am 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:48.400 about to cry because, first off, I so appreciate who 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.160 you are and what you bring to the world. But 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.120 every time I hear your voice, this is what happens 0:01:54.200 --> 0:02:01.440 to me. I you move me. There's something about your 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:06.040 voice that hits my heart in such a way. I 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:10.519 don't know if it's the motherly quality, but it just 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.799 heals me. So thank you. I feel the same way 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.400 about you. I've been listening to you. I've been listening 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:25.000 to chant for since it came out, and when I 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:31.600 tune into chant, I feel you're healing process. I just 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.519 feel everything you went through to get to where you are. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:40.800 And I mean specifically with throw your arms around the world, 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.040 my arms around the world, you know, like when I 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.720 danced to that, I feel just how how committed you 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:53.440 are to love and to christ consciousness and um, you know, 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:58.120 when when that came out, I texted you to say, like, 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.360 it's not my place to be proud of you. It's not, 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.239 it's not my job, but I just feel like it's 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:09.200 such an arrival. And I was thinking this morning about 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.400 you know, us having this conversation, and I so wish 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:15.079 we were like on a sofa together. Me too, Yeah, 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:21.639 just curled up. I think the medicine is transparency, Like 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.560 we know, you know, all anybody who has any capacity 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.799 to help other people heal is like you know, all 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:34.120 healers are wounded healers, and then to be really out 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.760 with like for each person to be out with their 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:43.120 individual journey just the story, just just everybody's the people 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:48.200 who can say I'm there too, or I'm approaching that, 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:52.840 or I'm not alone. Transparency is the way, and it's 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.040 showing up and how you show up. You thank you, 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.200 and I followed your work for a while now and 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.560 probably been one of our biggest influences in being able 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.920 to share the totality of my journey because you know, 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:10.880 the way that you show up in the world is 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.800 so important. I mean, that's why I titled this podcast, 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.400 you know, Holy Human. It's because God, I mean, I 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.520 don't know how long you know, I spent being lean rhymes, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.840 you know, as just this one kind of slice of 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.960 myself and a lot of me wasn't invited to the 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:32.520 table because the world didn't want that. They wanted this 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.400 one piece of me. And so you know, I've always 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.880 said that you know, my my affair and and everything 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.240 that kind of blew up in my face was probably 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.599 the biggest gift that ever happened to me because it 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:49.000 allowed me space for my humanity and for all of me. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.800 And when I found you and your story and your work, 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:57.320 that is what so resonated, and in fact, I I went, 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.359 I've been listening to White Hot Truth. I've been listening 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.960 to you a lot um this past week. And I 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.839 read the book when it first came out, but I 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:10.039 reread it this week and I'm like, oh, yeah, everything 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.800 you said was just it hit me different because I 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.160 feel like I'm at a different space in my life 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.159 than when that book first came out. You know, I've 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.560 been on the spiritual path of finding the things that 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.880 work for me and then realizing that those things don't 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:29.600 work anymore, and coming really after it's been about eight 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.880 years of that journey for me, now coming home to 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:41.120 my myself and trusting that wisdom that lives within and 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.800 that that probably is it's the scariest part of the 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.359 journey because You're like, wait, I thought I thought it 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.039 was all the other things out there, you know, I 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.200 thought it was, and and those are all beauty, you know, 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.680 the meditations and the prayers and chanting and all of it. 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.800 You know, other healers working with other people like it's 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:05.159 all all been important, but now coming home to my 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:12.359 own wisdom is it's it's what I know has to 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:17.159 happen at this point. And I know you speak about 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.760 that uh so often. And something that you've been talking 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.560 about which has really hit home with me as simplification 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:28.320 and simplifying life, I mean in every way. And it's also, 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.640 by the way, something that's terrifying for me. And I 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.160 would love to get your take on that in a second. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.440 But what brought you to this idea of you know, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.400 of I need to simplify and how has that reached 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:45.480 out into to every part of your life? Well, I 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:50.279 feel like last year, you know, spring of when everybody decided, 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:51.960 so many of us decided like the right thing to 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.200 do is like to shelter in place and just kind 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.640 of ride this wave. I just felt like I I 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.360 looked at my mortality for the first time and and 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.000 I decided like I was going to go all the way, 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:10.520 Like what if am I willing to die for what 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:16.280 I believe in? When is life going to take me? Um? 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.440 Does my son really need me? Maybe? You know, if 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.160 I were to die from some illness soon or what's 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.960 happening you know, in terms of world health, is it 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.320 my son's karma to have a mother, you know, to 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.240 be motherless? Like I just went for it, and I 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.240 just brought up all of these urges, like, um, I 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:40.280 really got the holy human struggle, like I just want 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:44.560 to shave my head sometimes go to the Ganges. Leave 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:49.440 it all and like what is that about? What's that about? 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.920 And I did. I just decided like I was gonna 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.040 let it all go. I sold my sports car, I 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.920 got rid of shoes, I got rid of clothes. I decided, 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:05.200 you know, one of my desires has always been, you know, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.160 I want a beloved. I want that partnership. And I 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.080 just said to God, Okay, if it's not for me, 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.480 I'll leave it. I'm just going to play with this 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:19.040 idea of thy will be done, which is terrifying. I 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.920 want I want to talk. I want to talk about 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.440 the terror. And then on the note of the beloved, 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.240 I let that go. I let career aspirations go. I 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.280 was like, you know what, maybe I should just sell 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.640 my house and get a little apartment and just meditate. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.880 I could live off the mind. I could make this 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.280 work for many years. Just have a little herb garden, 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:42.840 it would be great, right, And everything that I held 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.120 in my heart as an aspiration as willing to give 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:50.280 up and most of it came back mm hmmm. So 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.880 I was like, oh, okay, now I'm going to have 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:58.240 the courage to still want this. And then the man 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:03.240 came and career is just shimmering and lovely, and I'm 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:07.720 super satisfied. It turns out I didn't die last year. 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:14.439 I'm still here, congratulations, thanks, But a lot of clinging 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:20.560 and a lot of striving left. So what I found 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:25.199 underneath the striving is this is such a perfect time 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.640 to have this conversation because I've just come out of 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:33.240 like three intense months of agony and suffering, and I 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.720 was thinking about you because some of that agony was 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:41.360 a real kind of anxiety, which lots of many people 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.640 don't understand until they have that experience. And then I 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.040 had some health stuff that was just a lot of 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:52.120 physical pain, and I got to the place of like 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:56.680 what else. I really felt like my soul and spirit 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.080 was saying, like, just go deeper with the letting go, 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.040 just let I was like, what the funk else do 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.920 I need to let go of? And it was the 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.800 fear it was the fear, and I thought, like, this 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:14.240 is so cheesy, Wayne Dyre, This is really about letting 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.400 go and letting God. And I just am so tired 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:22.480 of the fear that has, in some way or another, 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.280 really driven a lot of my life. I know it 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.319 doesn't look like that from the outside to so many people. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.280 Your life doesn't look like that. So most of our lives, 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.600 we play it so well, doesn't look like that. But 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:41.439 so much of craving is driven by fear. So much 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:49.880 is driving fear, goals, fear, wanting, fear. And I'm as 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.600 done with it as I can be done with it today, 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.679 And the only way to do it is to just 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.720 first of all, you have to see it before you 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.680 can go of it. You have to see like what 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:08.040 you're gripping, and see how the effect has had on you, 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.600 let go of all the stories around it, and just 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:16.840 be like, I'm done. I'm done living this way. I 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.720 want peace. You've got to really want peace more than anything. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:25.760 And I think it's the one higher use of devotion 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.680 and desire to want for the right thing, to want 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.040 for the right thing. I think a lot of us 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.640 think we want that, but I don't know necessarily if 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:40.920 we do, and I wonder if it's for me. I 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:45.040 do know there's a piece of me that really wants peace. UM. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.760 But I do also see that there's pieces of me 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:54.880 that are very much um, addicted to the struggle, um, 0:11:55.800 --> 0:12:00.920 addicted to the loneliness. Uh. Let's come up with all 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:06.439 the different words for this ego small self, wound, itself, 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.840 the lie, the illusion, the part of ourselves that thinks 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.520 we're separate, separate from our hearts, separate from our soul, 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:18.680 separate from each other, separate from creation. None of that 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:23.280 wants peace, none of it because peace would make all 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.880 that dissolve. It wants to live. The ego wants to 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.240 be alive, like the metaphor had been working with lately. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.000 With the ego is like the egos like a wounded dog. 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.000 I grew up in the country that lots of some 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.120 dogs had to be put down. You know, you can't 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.880 go near a dog that's been wounded. It'll just it 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:48.160 wants to attack you, very slowly eventually maybe. And that's 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.720 what the ego is like. It's saying, like I don't 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.559 want love, I want separate. I want you to think 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:56.360 you're small. I want you to struggle the ego. The 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:02.040 ego thrives on strife, like struggle and separateness is like 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:07.120 sugar for the ego. And but really, really, really the 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.839 ego wants to come home. It's like that that dogs. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.199 It really just wants to be healed. But it's just 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:15.800 barking at us all the time. And you know, in 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:21.959 my thirties, I used to think peace was like just ridiculous. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.640 Why would I want peace? It's not exciting, it's not sexy, 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.640 it's not gonna piece, it's not gonna get me what 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:32.800 I want. It's not very hot. And I'm over it, 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.200 really over it. Well, I think when I mean for me, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.880 like when I think about peace, I think of the 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.400 monk is sitting in meditation, and it's like, that's that's 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.160 where peace comes from. It's only going to be in 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.040 those places because we can't exist in life, like you're saying, 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:50.600 with an exciting life, with a fun life, with being 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.160 in peace. And I you, I mean that is like 0:13:54.800 --> 0:14:00.160 that is the one of the greatest lies, you know, truly, um, 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.920 it truly is. And why do you think simplification and 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.400 and the simplicity and the peace, why do you think 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:11.200 we're so afraid. I mean you said the ego, yes, 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:18.440 but what maybe hiding underneath there when we're afraid to simplify, Well, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.440 I think the stuff that's hiding underneath there, it's the 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:27.480 reason we're afraid to simplify, Like all the stuff. You know. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.840 Carl Young would say, like, it's all the shadow, it's 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.160 all the subconscious stuff you're going to realize, like I 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:37.560 would say, like on my journey, I realized, Um, there's 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:42.360 like this neediness and this clinging nous, and there's greed 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:47.280 and there's desire, and I have this inner conflict. You know, 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.040 this is the beauty of you know you naming the 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:54.360 last album Holy Human. What's the chant? What's the subtitle? Oh? 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.200 The Human and the Holy Holy Right, Yes, that's the 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.920 that's been My strong is like should I give it 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:04.120 all up? Um? You know I'm partner on part horror 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:11.080 like all of that, like, um, and thank god somebody 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.560 said it. Now. I feel so liberated in this moment 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.440 I've also seen and how do I be both? And 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.400 then you know, and then my psychologists like Danielle that's 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.640 all church, and then all mystics will say, it's all God, 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:30.200 It's all God. One of the most helpful things lately 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.600 has been this talk that are you familiar with Audio 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:38.480 Shanti m m okay. So Audio Shanty says that you know, 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.400 in terms of nondualism, we've got it wrong. So just 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:45.120 like the quick breakdown is like love and hate, holy 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:49.600 and human shadow and light side right, and we want 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.360 to move to nondualism where it's like it's wholeness, it's 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.560 all in, it's all love. So what what most people 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:01.160 perceive is that nondualism is like it's just love, it's 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.640 all happiness. We just choose the positive. And his experience 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.240 was so Audio Shaunty for those people who don't know, 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.320 he's just just lovely guy. His real name, I think 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.400 is Steve from California, who's like a Zen practitioner, really young, 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:19.720 and he had these awakening experiences. He has these high 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:24.000 experiences where he feels like he is the God source, 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.800 he's nothing, and he's everything all at once. It's beyond words. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.560 Cannot describe it, okay, and then he comes back to 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:35.640 being here and you know, there are tables and there's furniture, 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.320 and there's a marriage and there's relationships, and he's like, 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:43.920 but what's this and His epiphany was that non dualism 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:48.640 is that we're both not that word the emptiness and 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:53.040 the fullness. No, you're the emptiness and the fullness. And 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.520 you're human and you're in marriage and you're frustrated and 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:00.880 there's furniture and you've got to get groceries. And that 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.840 has really helped me lately, Like when I go into 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.960 my existential should I leave it all? Am I holy enough? 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.480 Am I meditating enough? Am I clean enough? And I 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.560 you know, all the spiritual enoughness? I I could drive 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.600 myself crazy. I mean, even Achard totally speaks to this, like, 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.959 don't try and figure it out, just be here. And 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:26.280 when I'm here, I'm both. I'm a mother and I'm 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:32.720 someone's girlfriend, and I'm hungry and I want to garden 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:37.479 and I want to do podcasts, and I'm needy and 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:44.399 I am complete, I'm very powerful and i am very lost. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:49.480 I'm both yes. And I think that that's been one 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.600 of the greatest lessons for me, And it's something that 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.160 I constantly have to remind myself because it's so easy 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.119 to forget that we are both. And it's one of 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.480 the greatest lessons was knowing that I can old. It 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.800 started with emotions. For me, It's like I can hold 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.280 multiple things at once, you know, I can be happy 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.439 and sad all at the same time, like and to 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.000 be able to hold the totality of those emotions. And 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.600 then now you're talking about it bleeding out into you know, 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.000 the whole of our you know, a totality of our lives. Yeah, 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.400 that is that is a beautiful, beautiful lesson that I 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.280 I feel like it's so easily forgotten. I wonder, how 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.080 do you remember that. I was just talking to my 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.480 friend Darryl about this, and I was talking about loneliness 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.480 because it's something I'd love to discuss with you, because 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.399 it's really been something I've been diving deep into lately. 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.280 And we were talking about, you know, like if all 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.640 of the things that we had in our lives were 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.840 taken care of, there was we felt connected to everything 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.680 and everyone. I feel like there would still be this 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:50.480 piece of us that feels like we're disconnected from home. 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.560 There's this deep piece of us that we forget that 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.840 we are the holy piece. We forget that we are, 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.359 that we are connected to something higher. You know, I 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.560 wake up every morning thinking I want to remember that 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.000 totality of myself every day and it gets lost, like instantly, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.720 I feel like we go about our lives and but 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.840 then maybe that is the thing. Maybe it is exactly 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.160 right where we are in all of the human nous 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.080 and in that moment, like if we dive into that 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.679 piece of it, we are just as connected as if 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:27.679 we were in meditation and in prayer. All suffering is 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:34.479 a result of that illusion that we're disconnected. All suffering is, 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.000 you know, the Buddhi's say all suffering has to do 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.359 with what we identify with. I would say all sufferings 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.359 to do with misidentifying with things. So we think we're small, 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:51.800 we suffer. We tap into our true nature. We realize 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:56.080 we're divine, we're chosen. There's not even God is not 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.560 even having a discussion about whether we should be forgiven 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.600 or not. It's not even on the tape. Well, we 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:05.720 just are loved. So you can have those moments. You 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.600 can sing, you can have it in meditation, you can 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.240 have it in the garden, you can have it just 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.800 like with your barista. And then you're gonna walk out 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.120 of the cafe and you're gonna shrink, and you're gonna 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.320 go what I just felt so exalted and so high, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:26.119 and why now, Because that's how insidious it is, like 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.040 super The meta view is we have to keep in 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:38.080 mind we are trying to undo eons, lifetimes upon lifetimes 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:42.800 of conditioning of ego and darkness and shadow. We're good. 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.280 We're good if we can have some connected moments in 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:53.840 stillness and meditation. Um, we're doing good. If we can 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:55.639 feel it in the k if we can feel a 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:59.320 few times a day and you know, for me, I'm 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.280 getting Really, they're like. What gets in the way is 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:04.760 all the thinking. And the way to like stop the 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:10.080 thinking is the ego uses the intellect and the body. 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:13.160 This is really important to understand. This is like course 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:20.320 and miracle stuff. The egos language is identify with your body, 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.480 because I can keep you small if you think you 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:26.600 are too fat, too thin, to whatever, to whatever. And 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.880 I can keep you separate if you know you bring 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:34.720 race into the conversation or culture any that all keeps 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:39.359 us divided. Um, how else does the ego keep us over? 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:43.680 If I think I'm smarter than anybody else, or if 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:46.359 someone else has got more knowledge, the haves and the 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:51.000 have nots of knowledge. If you identify with you know 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:54.960 what I call your heart center, your soul. There's no 0:21:55.280 --> 0:22:00.280 division and everything is in So like my practice now, 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.960 as I see something come up from my basement, the 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:07.760 basement of my psyche, and I go, wow, that's clingy. 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:13.160 And instead of I'm a loser because I'm clinging, it's 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.800 like I just say, come on in. I got room. 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.720 I'm big enough, I'm loving enough, I'm supportive enough, I'm 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:24.520 enough of a mother that I got space for you. Clingy. 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:31.640 I've got space for you, greedy, ego person, shattered, fragmented self. 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:36.360 And when you do that with yourself, you feel more 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:44.760 connected to other people. The way to compassion. All right, 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.000 on that note, we're going to take a very compassionate 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:57.520 break and we'll be right back. Welcome back, labs. We 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.240 are just talking about the power of compassion and for 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.920 ourselves and others and leading with your heart. With Daniel Laporte, 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:07.960 you talk about heart centered and that's what you bring. 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.200 You point people back to often. What does that exactly 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:17.720 mean for you? Heart centered living? Ah, it's a reflective life. 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.240 Do you want to wake up? Do you want to 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.080 wake up? I think everybody's soul wants us to wake 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.240 up and then some some of us get conscious like, Okay, 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.040 I want to wake up. I want to live a meaningful, 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:33.639 purposeful life. And of course we all want joy, we 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:37.040 all want happiness. We may have addictions that keep us 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:39.119 from those things. Some of us are so addicted to 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:44.040 chaos and misery. You know. So you've got to do 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.400 the work. You've got to do the work. You're complete, 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.000 you're safe, you're loved, you're loving. You've got to do 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:56.200 the work to seal that awareness. And there's tools, and 0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.280 you know, you and I have been how many fucking 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.879 workshops have we done? How much therapy? And so I 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:06.520 think we try all these tools and they're great. Just 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:08.680 like you said at the top of the hour, they 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.720 were super useful. And then you've got to lay them 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:18.879 down and just be with yourself. And I think there's 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:23.359 a test that it comes in at some point where 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.439 you might have to leave your teacher, you might have 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:31.160 to leave the church, You're gonna have to depart from 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:41.720 something two claim yourself in a way. And yeah, just 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:46.520 you know why I think it's so scary, just that 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.720 it's yourself. I think from for my for myself. I mean, 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.840 you're talking about like the fear of just like following 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:57.919 your own heart is it's really it's the fear of punishment. 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:00.800 I mean, there's a fear of getting it wrong, like 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.159 if I make this decision, if I turn left, if 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.800 I do this yoga instead of that yoga, if I 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.880 marry that person said that, I'm gonna, you know, screw 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:12.439 up my life. But I think a lot of us 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:17.800 it's really deep in the psyche that something greater than 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:22.040 ourselves is going to punish us. And most religion is 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.120 based on this that we're going to get cast out. 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.439 And it may come into play like your friends are 0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:30.520 gonna leave you, or your agent is going to dump 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:36.359 you or whatever. But I think it's really almost like mythical, 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.680 like we're gonna be cast out of the garden if 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:45.160 we follow ourselves. It definitely goes that deep. I'm actually 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.840 this is so interesting. I'm finishing a new album right now, 0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:53.200 and uh, there's so much of this that came through 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:58.560 on this record, and that that idea of original sin 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:04.640 we'd talk Home record, Yeah we did, And it lives 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:08.679 deep within the psyche, deep, especially as you know, especially 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:12.919 as a woman, and the innocence, you know, the innocence 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.719 that I think I'm returning home to I know I've 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:17.679 returned home to it. You know. The Chant record was 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:21.040 a way of returning home to it. My writing, you know, 0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:24.000 this new record was a way of returning home to it. 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.400 And yeah, there's a there's an innocence that we come 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.440 home to and ourselves too. And it's for me that's 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:35.600 been I mean for multiple reasons. Look, I started so young, 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.960 like my innocence was truly like kind of blown and 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.199 shattered to pieces at a very young age. But it's 0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:47.359 that's been truly like one of the saddest journeys back 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.359 into myself and still is like I'll touch it and 0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:54.560 then I'm not sure what to do with it. Um, 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.439 But that's where, like, you know, that's where all the 0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.880 joy lives. And and I feel like the that whole 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:06.720 punishment peace is uh is deeply connected to that for me, 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.160 and and the fear of punishment is that is so 0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.680 deeply true. And to be honest, you know, there has 0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.920 been outward punishment. You know, I've experienced thatward punishment. I'm 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.640 sure we all have and have been cast out. I mean, 0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:25.440 the exile for me was real, um. But the exile 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.520 also from of myself being cast out of my own 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:34.560 self like that. That return is so important. I think 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:38.000 that's the journey and I'm on right now, is is 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:42.359 coming back to that. My most recent awesome revelation is 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:49.200 that nothing outside of ourselves is punishing us, although that's 0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.840 how all of organized religion is set up. And this 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:57.480 comes from Hermetic Egyptian philosophy. I've been reading this lately 0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:02.600 with Yoga Nanda. God neither punishes, nor protects, nor rewards 0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:08.320 our soul does that. And so I had to ask myself, 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.600 where am I punishing myself? Where can I reward myself? 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.320 Where can I have mercy for myself? Why am I 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:18.720 begging God for mercy? I'm loved, I need to beg myself. 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:23.399 I need to show mercy to myself. And so no 0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.720 judgment for what I manifest, no judgment for sickness, no 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:31.080 judgment for any kind of condition, just mercy, mercy, mercy, 0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:36.040 and recently, you know, part of my therapeutic process. I've 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.000 never spoken these words because I've been such a sturdy 0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:43.120 New Age crusader like I manifested this and I'm going 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.479 to take care of it, you know. And I just 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:50.800 said to myself, i don't deserve this. I was really suffering, 0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.480 as really in a lot of physical pain, and I'd 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:57.000 never ever let myself say that. I never wanted to 0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:01.520 be like in victim mode, but it was coming from 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:05.800 the most loving, finally part of myself. I just said, 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:10.360 like Danielle, you don't deserve this. And and then then 0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.560 one has to ask what about karma, because there's cause 0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.200 and effect. Could be something I did in this lifetime 0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.200 or another lifetime where I gotta burn something off. I 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.760 gotta do some due diligence here to bring it into balance. 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.640 Even then I should have mercy on myself. I think 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:33.920 mercy and self compassion it can right the wrong. This 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.840 is like true atonement. It's like you just see the 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:46.600 mistake with love and it dissolves. Yeah, forgiveness or mercy 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:51.800 and grace the same thing, right. I think mercy. I 0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.880 think they're cousins. Mercy is easy to understand when you 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.400 think about it in terms of having mercy for someone else. 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.240 So you can think of someone who done something heinous 0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:05.640 and awful even to you, you know, and mercy would 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:12.959 be I hope you don't have to pay full price 0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:17.480 for that wrongdoing. I hope you get off easy. I 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.800 think mercy is I pray you get off easy, really, 0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:27.440 because why why be punished? Why why perpetuate punishment? I 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.880 pray we all know that line from all the old movies. 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:35.120 I make God have mercy on your soul, right, And 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.680 then I think grace is the letting go and letting 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:42.719 God like she comes in and she takes care of stuff, 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:47.840 and but you have to unclench. You have to unclench. 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.560 And what you're talking about with yourself of like the 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:59.200 acceptance and that the original concept of original sin, that 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:03.840 relief it comes when we let go of judgment and 0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:17.760 that loneliness. I know that loneliness. That loneliness is. I 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.760 think it's part of being in a human body mm hmm. 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.800 And I think it's what we're here to dissolve. So 0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.560 you think that's you think that's possible, like to really 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:31.880 in this, in this body, to dissolve that loneliness. I 0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:37.040 don't know, m hm, I don't know. I think I 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:42.400 believe that there are enlightened beings who feel God's source 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:46.040 who stay in body. I'm not there. I'm so not there. 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.040 I agree. I mean, there's been so many moments where 0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.840 I have been I mean, I'm blessed to have an 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.960 avenue every time I opened my mouth, you know, to 0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:59.760 be able to connect with that. Um, I've done it 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.320 in meditation. I felt that I've have come out of 0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:07.760 breath work and been like, holy hell, I'm not on 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.560 this plane. Hallelujah. I feel the greatest amount of joy 0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:13.440 I've ever felt in my life. Why do I have 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.640 to come back down from this? Why can't we always 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.680 live there? It is a beautiful feeling. It is so 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.080 and you're you know, once you feel that. For me, 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:25.120 once I felt that and really understood it, that's where 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.200 my search started, you know. It's like that's love, Like, 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:32.840 oh wow, I get to experience that. Like even if 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.760 I even if I've even if I've already experienced everything 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.320 I'll ever experience of that in this lifetime, I'll still 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.000 look for it, like I'll still That's I think the 0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:51.320 deepest desire ultimately is to feel in connection with that energy. 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.680 It's so beautiful. You've got the taste, I know, right, 0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:02.440 totally totally, and it's you talk a little, you know 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:09.960 a lot about about giving things up upward? What is that? 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:14.240 This is an interesting concept that I've I've kind of 0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.280 struggled with. There's a piece of me that's like, oh yeah, 0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:19.280 I know exactly what that is to give it up 0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.640 to God. Um. And then there's a piece of me 0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.960 that's like, well, just that's it, Like just give it up? 0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:28.960 Like what what do don't I have to do something? 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.240 What is it? What does that experience? What do you 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.800 what do you? What do you mean by that? Exactly? 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.240 Because I've lived my whole life it's you know, that's 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.360 been I brought up Southern Baptist and it was all about, 0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.680 you know, just giving it up to God. You know 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.120 what is that experience like for you? When you say that? 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:50.000 What what comes up for you? Um? You know when 0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.040 you're holding a child who has a cold, they're sick, 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:55.360 and you say to them, I wish I could take 0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.200 this from you. We all know that experience, Like we 0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:01.440 would take that suffering on and we have the capacity 0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.120 take that suffering on. We're healthy enough, we would take that. 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.800 We would take that illness for them and running through it. 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:14.600 I think doubting that creation, the infinite life, the mother, 0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:18.279 the father doesn't want our pain and can't take it. 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:27.280 That's delusional. It's completely right, Like whatever force that made 0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:30.839 us in our microbiome, and birds and the sun and 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:35.840 the solar system can't handle our micro amount of pain. 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:42.040 I don't think God wants us to suffer. I mean 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.400 I had an experience where, you know, I was really 0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:49.959 kind of just emotionally crumbling. This is about three years ago. 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:54.319 It's really dark time. Wouldn't trade it for anything now 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.720 that you know, I'm on the other side. But and 0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:01.719 I was at a river in in Santa Fe and 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.400 it was like, really, it's like this kind of baptismal moment. 0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.520 I took off my clothes, I get in this rushing river. 0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:08.319 This is like, this is a big deal for me 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.960 because I don't like to be called and and I 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.400 felt like nobody could touch my pain, not my friends, 0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:17.520 not the person I was in relationship with, not my psychologist. 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.720 I just come out of this shaman healing as London 0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.160 does in Santa Fe, you know, and it was like 0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.680 the ultimate and loneliness. Nobody could get the pain, nobody 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:30.560 could touch the could scratch it. And and I just realized, 0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:34.480 like only God can get to that. And God is 0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:38.120 waiting for me to just say come and take this 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.520 from me. I'm going to I'm gonna give it to you. Here, 0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:45.520 here you have Oh, you're the one. This is the 0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.719 rouch and just to give it it can be transformed. 0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.840 And this is this is the basic love winds christ 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:57.880 consciousness is transmutational love changes everything. You just say, I 0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:02.600 am worthy of mercy. I deserve a break. Take it 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.279 from me. And but but I think it's a there's 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.480 a two steps to this. But like take it from 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.359 me and then use me that I will be done. 0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:15.120 I cast away my worries so that this is really 0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.759 this is like the sacred semicolon. I offer you my 0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:22.440 worries and my pain so that I can be a 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:26.879 vehicle for you. M hm. And then that's why we're here. 0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.160 We're here to get healed, and I think, and to 0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.600 heal each other. There are some days where I can't 0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:38.359 see my capacity to heal myself, but you can. There's 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.160 some days when I can't hear my voice, but I 0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:46.239 can hear your voice, and we do heal each other. 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.239 We have to show up for each other. And I 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:50.719 think this is the call of the times. You know, 0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.160 I'm talking a lot now about Age of Aquarius and 0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:56.520 like this whole new era that we're in, it doesn't 0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:00.600 even matter what it's called. But everybody can see we're 0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:04.359 in a new cycle of something and we're only going 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:09.560 to get through this if we love ourselves completely. I 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:14.759 know it's easy to say, but total inclusiveness. Love your 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:20.840 anxiety softly, love your power softly, don't cling to your power, 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.239 and then I can love you and we're just going 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:30.439 to get softer. That's where we're headed. Yeah, I saw 0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.960 I clipped where you put your anxiety as the beloved, 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.080 like everything is the beloved, and it was such a 0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:39.399 beautiful reminder because it's true. I mean, it's it's all 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.000 showing up. I mean, it's it's all coming from there. 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.600 That's that's everything. Is that? What is your relationship right 0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:49.640 now with anxiety? We call it your anxiety. You're just 0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.920 anxiety in general. But like where you at mm hmm 0:37:56.160 --> 0:38:03.480 I it happens daily. It's a man on um. It 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.799 depends on I think this whole last year has been 0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:11.240 very loud, you know. I for me, it's my brain 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.759 got really loud and louder than it has been in 0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.759 a very long time. And I'm off the road where 0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:20.239 I've been since I was thirteen years old, and I 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.520 got to sit at home and which was wonderful by 0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.840 the way. I mean, there's been a lot of beautiful 0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:29.279 things that have come out of this for me, um, 0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.480 but one of them has not been my anxiety and 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:36.920 has gotten much louder. I started coloring recently and it 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.760 brought me back to this really innocent piece of myself 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:44.200 and it's very calming to my nervous system, and I'm 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:48.200 starting to find new ways to to be with it. 0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.880 And I know that one of the greatest things is 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.520 is acceptance of knowing that this is how I'm feeling 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.120 right now. I'm going to meet it here. And when 0:38:56.160 --> 0:39:00.360 I don't fight it, it's like the resistance keeps a going. 0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:02.799 You know. When I meet it, I think it it 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:06.000 starts to dissolve. And there's so many emotions also underneath 0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:10.160 that that I'm that I've I'm resisting normally. It's something 0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.680 that needs to be expressed. Can you describe the anxiety. 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.759 What's it like in your body? Yeah? It feels like 0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:21.440 someone plugged me into a wall socket. It feels like 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:25.279 so much, so much energy running through every limb and 0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:29.560 especially like my my center channel. Um, that's where it 0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:32.080 really starts. I can feel it, I mean all through 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.759 it kind of and sometimes can feel like someone's choking me, 0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:37.120 which for me, like anything that has to do with 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.839 my throat or my voice is like though, it just 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:45.520 exacerbates what's going on. Do you know what triggers it life? 0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:51.640 I mean, um, different things, I think, worry, I think 0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.319 about the future, you know, like I feel like, at 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.279 least at this point, it's been um, you know, I 0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:02.959 thought I had I it, I had set myself up 0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.719 since I was a child, I think for never having 0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:10.640 to worry about business and money and you know, all 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.440 the things that I grew up with nothing to be 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.640 able to have set that up for myself at such 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.359 a young age. That all got stripped for me, which 0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:21.920 of course I know is the greatest thing that's probably 0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:23.600 ever happened to me once I get on the other 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:29.800 side of this. But I think it's been just constant 0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:34.000 rumination and worry about the future for me, reminding myself 0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.719 the reminders every day of I don't need to be 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:41.480 in control. I think. Really that's what it boils down to, 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:45.719 is like feeling the need to control everything around me 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.560 so I feel safe, which is a trauma response, totally 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:53.440 need to control. And then how does how how do 0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:57.400 you and end Eddie in a like in a marriage, 0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.879 work with your anxiety. Will he come in the room, 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.759 You'll say, I'm having I'm in it now. Yeah. We 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.160 I'm very vocal, and I used to not be because 0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.640 I thought I could handle it all. You know, It's 0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:10.719 like I can I can control this. I can handle it. 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:15.960 Um No, I will one expressed to him what's going on. 0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:20.600 And the wonderful thing about my husband and that I 0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:24.200 have wonderfully married into and that I didn't have as 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.960 a child, is that he's able most of the time 0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:32.759 to meet me and say it's okay, like and be 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.320 with me and that And that's what's been so healing 0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.960 about my relationship with him is that it's so very 0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:44.799 different then what I had as a child. M hm. 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.400 And that's so beautiful. I mean, like you said, that 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:50.680 is a trauma response, and he's helping me heal that 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:55.480 that piece of trauma you know, for myself wait to 0:41:55.560 --> 0:42:01.120 wait to manifest love, I know. Yeah, I mean he's 0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.680 he's a beautiful man and with you know, and we 0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.520 both have we both have places where we can't meet 0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:13.440 each other, um. And we're learning together and that's I 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.080 think that's all I can ask for is to learn 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.120 and grow together and and he we both heal each 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:23.000 other in different ways, and it's been it's been really 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:27.840 powerful to have him in my life. I've been thinking 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:33.719 about anxiety and the body and how much of a 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:37.600 call it is really back to the letting go. It's 0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:43.439 just all you have is now. All you have is now. 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:46.760 I mean it goes back to this. Sounds like super dramatic, 0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:50.239 but I just think, could I die today, would I 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.319 be ready to die today? Could I have could I 0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:58.040 let go of everything today? And the answer is rarely no. 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:04.520 Sometimes say yes, like Okay, I feel close to love 0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.840 and I know that who knows, maybe I could be 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.040 of more service from the other side, like I don't know. 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:15.439 But then I also like the idea of like could 0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.680 I let go of everything? And why do I want 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.960 to be here? And I just kind of recommit to 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.959 being here, like, oh I do want to be here? 0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:27.560 I do. I still I still have things to do 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.080 and there's so many people that I love and there's 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.160 still there's so much joy. That's my next question for you, 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:39.719 not in spite of or despite having anxiety sometimes but 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.480 alongside that, I want you to tell me if this 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.040 is true, Like you have this whole life and you 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:49.239 have a relationship with joy and you have a relationship 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:54.560 with happiness and euphoria and expression, and people need to 0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.040 hear you can have you can have it all. You 0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:02.160 can have anxiety and joy the new halfit at all totally. 0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.040 Oh my god, that's hysterical. Well, you know what's interesting 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:12.080 about that? Um? I think I think I'm just really 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:16.160 allowing myself to touch joy, like true joy. I think 0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.440 I you know, I go back to that innocence within 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:22.480 me that feels like it got so repressed and that 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.239 it was all about work and it was all about 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:31.040 the struggle and always forward moving. And in this last 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:36.399 year I got to a place I did the somatic experience. Um, 0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.319 I've been working a lot with somatic work, and I 0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.400 had the somatic experience where I felt like I was 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:45.279 outside of myself and kind of dropped in and I 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:49.560 started laughing and crying all the same time. And I 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:53.520 was in the space for about forty eight hours. My 0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:55.520 my dear friend Darryl and I who create he creates 0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.520 everything with me. We wrote this song called Innocence from 0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:02.080 that space, and it's funny because the first lyrics are 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.520 come back to me. We'll set eating eating free, and 0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:10.040 joy will again win the Holy warm. And I cry 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:17.759 when I think about it because, oh, to me, like 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:25.480 that is the truest piece of joy that I've touched mhm. 0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:33.760 And I have. I'm finally allowing myself to have that mhm. 0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:38.919 And it's uh, it takes It's taken a long time 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:44.239 to get there. That's touching your divinity, like when we 0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:50.680 when we see who we really are, you can't help 0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:54.879 but be joyful, like there's no other there's no other 0:45:55.000 --> 0:46:00.000 response to have when you just see low I am, 0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:03.600 I am love, I am love is flowing through my 0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:07.600 by I'm like this conduit. How can you not be joyful? 0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.359 And then how can you not be moved? And how 0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:13.280 can you not want to It's like I was blind 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:17.279 and now I see you know that's it. That's the 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.120 amazing grace. I mean, you're doing this with your life now, 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.080 your vocation. When you when you touch that, you just 0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:25.319 want to go. And I just want to go. I 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:27.560 want to hold people. I want to put my hands 0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.920 on their shoulders and just say like it's possible. And 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.200 I'm struggling too, and I don't get it every day 0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.520 all day, but I know what I've tasted it. It's possible. 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.200 We're gonna pause right there, but when we return, Danielle 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:44.040 will share her thoughts on how we get to that 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:52.120 place of enter peace and joy. Hello again, Loves. Danielle 0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.960 was just talking us through connecting with our own divinity 0:46:55.000 --> 0:47:00.279 and love. We like only get there together. We only 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.000 get there together. Like now, like I'm gonna like the 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.759 most frequent thing I say to people right now is like, 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:10.360 we have to hold hands. We just we've got to 0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:12.839 hold hands. Like I don't know what else I can say. 0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.920 Someday we're like another friend is saying I've been anxious 0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:19.359 all weekend, or or another friend is just I've had 0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:23.279 this amazing breakthrough right just healed my cancer. Or I'm 0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.719 down and Europe or I'm up, and just like we're 0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:28.319 just going to hold hands and we cannot give up 0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:34.879 on each other and and we've got to forgive, like 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:40.839 this is the soapbox right now, forgive ourselves. The heart, 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.680 I think the most the sweetest thing I've come up 0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:50.120 with the last year is like the heart is for giving. 0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.440 Love has to flow, love is always moving, Love is 0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:58.480 always generitive. It's the nature of love. It moves, has 0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:03.279 to move. The heart is for giving. I think my anxiety, 0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.200 by the way, just not to interrupt you or you 0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:11.480 just you reminded me. I think my anxiety comes from 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:16.040 not giving that not loving, not giving that love like 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:21.200 not when I hold with hold from an old trauma pattern. 0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:26.080 When I withhold, that is where my anxiety truly is, 0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:30.600 because I know what I want, like, I just want 0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:35.840 to continue to love, and it's that's just my nature. Actually, 0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:37.600 as he said that to me the other day, He's like, 0:48:37.760 --> 0:48:40.799 the kindness in you, it's just your nature. Like that's 0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:44.319 just it. And I truly think when you just said that, 0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:46.600 that hit me, is like, oh, that's really it. That's 0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:52.719 really the anxiety. That gorgeous, yes, gorgeous epiphany. It's your 0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:56.000 true nature. It's it's our true nature. It's human nature. 0:48:56.040 --> 0:49:00.000 We want to love, We want to forgive. Whoever is listening, 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:01.919 if you just get one thing, just get this one. 0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:06.680 We're not raised to forgive. We are raised to hold 0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:12.239 a grudge. Our whole entire culture, our whole society, is 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:18.080 based on right versus wrong, light versus dark, black versus white, 0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:22.279 holding a like it's all based on punishment. There's a 0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:26.319 right answer, there's a wrong answer, there's logic, and there's love. 0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:29.440 It's not true your truth. You actually want to forgive. 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:36.000 And so many times I've watched myself let myself get 0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:40.640 talked out of loving, like I don't care. What do 0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.319 I care that they took the money? What I don't? 0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:47.280 It's over And the system will say you should suthe them, 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.520 or the system will say you should write it, you know, 0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:55.120 get it in writing, or it's just all these things. Really, 0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:58.960 I think when I'm on my best days, I'm really 0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:01.920 over it, but I talk myself into not being over it, 0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:06.080 and I clamped down, and the blood vessel shrink and 0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:13.920 the anxiety comes, and I one of my greatest awareness 0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:17.880 is about forgiveness. Is actually I can tap into that 0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:20.800 place of kindness where I don't even have to question 0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.879 whether I forgive someone. It's I have to ask for 0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:29.520 forgiveness and who do we need to go clean stuff 0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:36.000 up with? The liberation that comes from that is incredible. 0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:40.239 Like just about three weeks ago, I had my ex 0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:44.400 husband over for Tea that hasn't happened a lot since 0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:47.920 we got divorced, and just said, you know, I got 0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:50.799 two things to talk to you about. One, let's talk 0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:54.439 about our son's upcoming birthday too. I want to say 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.719 sorry for something, and I'm going to cry. And I 0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:00.160 basically said, I'm sorry for being a bag for the 0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:07.200 last five years. I'm just like, I've been such a 0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:11.680 dick about things. And and I also, you know, defended 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.560 myself a little bit and said, I've never wished ill 0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:17.160 I've always wished the best for you, but like I 0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:20.360 held a grudge for way too long, and like it 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.480 weighed me down, and it weighed you down, and I'm 0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:25.359 just done with it. And I'm sorry. You don't even 0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:27.239 have to forgive me. I'm you don't even have to 0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:31.160 forgive me. I'm just I just need to say I'm sorry. 0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.360 I love that. That's so beautiful. How what do you okay? 0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:37.799 So forgiveness, I feel like I sometimes when you feel 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:43.160 like you've forgiven, which I do. I feel like I've 0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:46.280 forgiven the people in my life who I really needed 0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:53.920 to forgive. But then I'm like, but then there's the people. 0:51:55.400 --> 0:52:00.160 They sometimes will go reopen that wound without even mean 0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:03.120 Sometimes people just don't change, and they are they're in 0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:08.520 your life and they don't change, and gosh, it reopens 0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:12.200 the wound and then it's like, did I really forgive? 0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:14.439 Or do I have to go forgive again? And it's 0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:19.799 it's like are there layers to that? And maybe it's 0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:24.239 the forgiveness of that's just an understanding and acceptance of 0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:30.000 that's just who they are. M I think when forgiveness happens, 0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:35.239 it's real. And then they circle back and you get 0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:39.440 agitated again. It doesn't invalidate that you really did forgive 0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:42.720 that one time. Everything is always moving, you're always growing. 0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:45.920 The subconscious is huge. There's like more ship in your 0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:48.480 basement you've got to clean out. So like, let's not 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:57.759 invalidate that we were loving when we were And you know, 0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:59.760 some great advice I got from one of my shrinks 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:04.359 was sometimes you gotta you gotta go in knowing there's 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.600 a chance they might not have changed. They might have 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.719 there's always room for a miracle. And then you're going 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.840 to get wounded and you're going to pull out and repair, 0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:19.120 and then you go back in, pull out, repair and 0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:21.239 you go back in, but you kind of know who 0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:23.440 you're dealing You've got an idea about who you're dealing with. 0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:27.520 And then a logical spiritual question would be like, well, 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:29.960 you can't assume how someone's going to act. Oh, come on, 0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:32.160 but give yourself some credit. Yeah, we want to leave 0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:35.280 room for change and miracles, but give yourself some credit 0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:39.280 for your wisdom. Zebras aren't going to change their stripes. So, okay. 0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:42.719 I was going for a walk with someone who have 0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:48.399 that kind of dynamic with and they said the thing 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:51.560 that always makes me feel like, are you kidding? Are 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:55.560 you kidding? And I just decided that day that I 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.760 was spacious enough for that person to treat me like ship. 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:03.800 I had enough room. I had enough room for they're crazy. 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:09.400 And when I saw myself, I really had a deep breathe. 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:11.960 You know, We're walking through the park and I'm deep breathing. 0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.399 I'm like, okay, Daniel, you got this. And I think 0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:19.279 to myself, I am really loving. I'm really loving. My 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:23.000 heart is vast. I I believe what the mystics say. 0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:27.120 My heart is as big as this guy. I'm okay, okay, okay, okay, 0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:30.480 i am love itself. Okay. Then I got room for 0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:35.919 this petty bullshit, and I have room to see their 0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:41.399 wounded nous. They're they're they're ill, they're struggling, they don't 0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:44.440 have the tools that I have. It's okay, you can 0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:47.680 treat me like ship today. And this is also this 0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:51.320 goes back to your point about offering it up. H 0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:55.279 This is actually a very tontric practice. Side note here, 0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:57.200 lots of people think tantra is just about how you 0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:01.120 have a great orgasm. There's just once liver of a 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:05.960 ton tric perspective. Tontra is really about being presents present. 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:09.120 It's the opposite of anxiety and clinging and all of that. 0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:13.960 And the ton Tric way of offering it up would 0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:17.719 be to say, what energy in the universe needs this? 0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:23.040 Take my suffering, take my shame, take my inflammation, take 0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:27.359 my anxiety, take my terror. Who wants my terror? Come 0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:32.719 get it? And maybe some demon beast energy comes and 0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:34.719 eats it up because that's what they feed off of. 0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:37.759 But like, we're just living in this big compost, so 0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:41.240 you could just it's another approach, like who who wants 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:44.479 this energy? And then if you're going to give up 0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.799 your dark, heavy stuff, you also have to get in 0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:50.120 the habit of giving up your light stuff. Who wants 0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:53.759 this love? And just keep flowing? Who wants my forgiveness, 0:55:53.840 --> 0:55:56.400 come get it. Who wants my joy today? And you 0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:59.880 offer it up to God? You offer it up? Offer 0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:06.680 h I love that, it's so beautiful. Thank you. Then 0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:11.720 you're always growing mm hmm you and you're always moving. 0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:14.239 Things are always moving then, which is the nature of 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:18.560 love always falling? It's a current of energy. What happens 0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.520 when we clamp the energy down? We get fried, we 0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:25.560 get burned out, toxic backup, We're going to get well. 0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:26.840 I don't want to put this in too much of 0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:32.120 an affirmative. There's a high possibility that if we don't 0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:35.200 keep the love flowing, if we hold back on our forgiveness, 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:41.799 we create illness. Because life moves, death constricts, I mean 0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:46.960 death in this physical sense. Yeah, you just honestly, I 0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:50.160 think we literally just solved my anxiety. I mean not completely, 0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:54.040 but I really understand the route. And you know what, 0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:58.319 having experienced my own anxiety, panic attacks and all the 0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:01.440 studying I've done, I'm just gonna all you, like sister 0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:05.360 to sister, you don't have to have it. It's actually 0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:11.799 not necessary. Our pain is not necessary for growth. It 0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:16.080 creates growth. There's no need for us to look for 0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:20.320 suffering to be good. Of course, The Miracles has a 0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:24.760 very simple phrase, I have no need of this, and 0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:29.760 I'm really getting it. I'm really getting it. I have 0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:34.840 no need for this. And you know how important it 0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:40.280 is to like choose correct thoughts m hm. And how 0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:43.400 when we're in those anxious, dark places we've got to 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:45.760 you know, and I know like you feel like you're 0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:49.040 at the bottom of this cavern you can't even get 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.240 what the right thought is sometimes to get you out 0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:57.160 of the pit. Yes, but all what I say to 0:57:57.200 --> 0:58:00.880 myself right now is I have chosen be beauty. And 0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:02.920 I've worked on these words, like do I say I'm 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:07.640 choosing beauty? Do I say I've chose beauty? I choose it. 0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:12.360 I've decided to put in past tense because I know 0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:16.840 that my soul already chose, already chose me, and my 0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:19.400 human self is just waking up to it. I have 0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:23.480 chosen beauty so I can see the beauty and the anxiety. 0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:27.320 The anxiety dissolves, and then I start to see the 0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:29.560 beauty in my life so much to be grateful for. 0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:35.240 I see the beauty in this mess that is, and 0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:38.720 I am without judgment for all of it. I don't 0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:42.040 care if you choose to get vaccinated or not vaccinated. 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:44.880 I see the beauty in your choice. I don't care 0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:47.720 if you choose to sing and use your gifts or not. 0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:50.919 I'm going to see the beauty. I don't care if 0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:54.800 you harmed me and stole from me. I'm going to 0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:58.040 see the beauty. And I'm going to see the beauty 0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.919 in my day. And just like you know, you're having 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:05.640 this epiphany of like it's this clamped down love and 0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:11.440 you're just you're saying, you're just getting joy. I'm just realizing, 0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:13.120 you know what I want, asked me what I want? 0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:18.040 Lean what do you want? I want to be happy. Yes, 0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:21.560 I just want to be happy. The Divine Mother wants 0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:24.280 me to be happy. There's no reason to not be happy. 0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:29.120 I'm finding all this evidence to support happiness. You know, 0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:33.040 Tick not Han teaching saying we all missed the point. 0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:35.440 We all think that the Buddha was talking so much 0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:40.960 about suffering. The Buddha was happy, of course, the miracles 0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:45.720 talking about the result of love is happiness. Love and 0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:49.560 happiness go hand in hand. The meta Bovna prayer, it's 0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:53.200 my thing. Now, May I be happy, May I be healthy, 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:56.720 free of suffering free of mental anxiety. May I live 0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:59.760 in peace, May my life be blessed with ease. And 0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:02.160 then I offer you that blessing and all of us 1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:05.600 that blessing. That's a prayer from the Buddha himself. If 1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:11.880 the Buddha is promoting happiness, I'm finally in and the 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:15.520 warrior and the warriorship is how to be happy in 1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:19.760 these times? Because the egos and any kind of thinking 1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:22.880 person is going to say, but now, but that's always 1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:25.840 the case, That's always the case. How can we have 1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:28.600 been happy in the depression? How can we have been 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:30.400 happy in the dark ages? How do we be happy 1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:34.600 as the world is clearly unraveling? Yeah, we need to 1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:39.400 also unravel. Yeah, I love it. Thank you, thank you 1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:42.640 for your wisdom today. This has been so healing for 1:00:42.720 --> 1:00:46.520 me to sit here with you. And I'm just so grateful. 1:00:46.600 --> 1:00:49.520 And I have I always ask um, and I know 1:00:49.640 --> 1:00:52.080 you love music so much, so I'm excited to hear this. 1:00:52.760 --> 1:00:55.720 I always asked what we have something called the Holy Five, 1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:59.520 which is can be five of your favorite songs of now, 1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:02.200 five of your all time favorite songs? If you had 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:06.760 to choose five, what would they be? And why? Well, 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:19.000 Allelujah by Leonard Cohen. Oh yeah, because that is a 1:01:19.040 --> 1:01:23.680 song of inclusive love. That's a song of resurrection mm hmm. 1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:28.320 And I so relate to Leonard's Holy Human Struggle mm hmm. 1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:35.520 Not to kiss up. But my most cathartic dancing, sacred dancing, 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:38.919 has been happening to is it throw your arms around 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:41.240 the roll of throw my arms, row my arms around 1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:45.680 the world. I have a playlist called Sacred Dancer, and 1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:48.680 I have throw my arms around the world three times 1:01:49.120 --> 1:01:55.160 to strike. And I'll tell you sometimes I turn it 1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:58.960 into the affirmative that not if I could throw my 1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:02.040 arms around the world, but I change your words, if 1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:04.200 that's okay with you. And I said, yes, please, I 1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:07.880 throw my arms around the world, and I put healing it. Yeah, 1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:12.800 I love it. I'm going to do that. Yeah, I 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:14.720 think I love to do like the follow up. Put 1:02:14.720 --> 1:02:18.040 her on the next album, Yes, totally, that'll be the 1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:22.040 That'll be the next remix. I would put in something 1:02:22.080 --> 1:02:35.800 about said O'Connor mm hmm, because I love how she 1:02:36.600 --> 1:02:41.040 has been so open with her own insanity m hm, 1:02:41.240 --> 1:02:44.760 and so devoted to God. A song of good hope. 1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:47.800 I think it's called by Glenn Hansard, So I don't 1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:53.720 know that song. Oh he's so beautiful. Watch the Sun's now, 1:02:54.720 --> 1:03:00.720 you know what? Okay me, you'll be fine. Just stick 1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:06.000 close to me and make good. And the Bruce Springsteen 1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:10.280 song that Glenn Hansard and Eddie Vetter did a cover of, 1:03:11.200 --> 1:03:16.960 uh drive all night. They say, Oh God give me something, 1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:23.840 I'm afraid to lose m hm, and I wish that 1:03:24.080 --> 1:03:30.000 God was Samya wol soon miss something and I'm afraid. 1:03:32.000 --> 1:03:35.439 Yeah what a great lyric. Yeah, I know it's so good. 1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:39.000 I love good lyrics. I really do so beautiful. Thank 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:43.880 you You're such a blessings. Appreciate you. Thank you so much. 1:03:44.360 --> 1:03:50.480 I'll love to you you too. And that wraps up 1:03:50.600 --> 1:03:53.360 this episode of Holy Human. Thank you all so much 1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:55.400 for joining us for this conversation. I don't know about you, 1:03:55.520 --> 1:03:57.080 but I feel like I just got wraps in a 1:03:57.120 --> 1:04:02.040 warm blanket which goes so patently. 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