1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Batch Happy Hour. I'm Joe 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are here today to recap 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: episode three of The Golden Bachelor, which I will say. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: I will say up off the top that Gary was 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: if that was the goal, like he was the Golden Bachelor, 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: then Mel is not at like he's not as old. 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's fine for you to say, because 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: that's the truth. I mean, it was seventy one and 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: Mel is sixty six. But I would argue that Mel 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: is a young sixty six. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: But it does feel a little bit am I wrong? 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: And I could be a little bit of a different 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: speed because I just remember like Gary season and watching 14 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: them play pickleball and being like, yeah, like this is 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: the Golden Where now I'm like like, uh, this is 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelor. But it's like a hybrid between the 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor and like Ari season of The Bachelor, you know. 18 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I said it last week. This 19 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: feels less like grandma and grandpa and more like hot 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: aunt and uncle vibes. 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, okay that if you said that, then everything 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: I said just disregard because no, no, I know, but 23 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying that's the perfect explanation. 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it feels a little younger, a 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: little spunkier. I feel like the first season of The 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor, specifically, they really were like pushing the fact 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 2: that like these are senior citizens, like these are people 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: in their later Not. 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: All the women felt that way, but Gary definitely felt 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: that way. Well. 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: I think that the the energy was supposed to be 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: like we're in our later years of life, but we 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: still have so much life to live, and we're vibrant 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: and we're energetic, and where you have amazing personalities and 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: we're beautiful and like it was really like uplifting this 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: group of women that go kind of un represented in 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: media and they're you know, sixty five seventy plus. Whereas 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: this group of women season two of The Golden Bachelor, 39 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: the vibe feels a lot different. 40 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: It's more like the like the Real Housewives. 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 2: It's giving way more Real housewives. To me, I totally agree. 42 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm not against it. I just think it's like definitely 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 2: a vibe shift that we have to call out. 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: Definitely a vibe shift even. 45 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: From Jones season. I feel like Jones season felt really 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: heavy and sad because it was a lot of discussion 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: around people losing their spouses and what it means to 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: be a widow, and this season they've definitely like picked 49 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: it up in terms of the moods or lighter and 50 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: the stories are lighter. 51 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, definitely not. 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: Saying that this group hasn't gone through stuff. But let's 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: get into the episode. So we open up with a 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: chat with Nicole. We see some of the women are 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: kind of calling her out, just saying, like, you guys 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: making out in the pool in front of everyone was 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: a little uncomfortable, and. 58 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: She basically says, don't give a fuck. 59 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: You guys are prudes. 60 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, listen. I I sighed more on nicole 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: side on this, because you have to do you have 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: to do this show your way, and if that's going 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: to piss other people off, so be it. But if 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: you think that's the best chance you have to get 65 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: what you want at the end, then go for it. 66 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's just a strategy that we rarely see play 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: out well, so I'm curious. 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: It never plays out well. Yeah. 69 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: Where my hesitation about the way she's moving comes from 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: is like, Okay, I guess I see you. You're hot. 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: This probably isn't gonna work. You know, you're not giving 72 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: yourself the best chance, even though we'll see I could 73 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: be wrong. Maybe that's love of his life. 74 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's also you know it is mel 75 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: is in his mid sixties, so you don't know, like me, 76 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: it hasn't worked for the younger bachelor's, but maybe the 77 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: older bachelor's like, yeah, this is what I need in 78 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: my life. 79 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: Yeah I need a little sex appeal. Yeah, you need 80 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: a little pizaze. So I am curious to see how 81 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: that goes. Cindy is having a really hard time. She's 82 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: not cool with sharing mouth. 83 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: She's been having a hard time from day one. Like, yes, 84 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: she's been like this. Her character on the show is 85 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: that person. 86 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Yes, it's funny because Nicole and Cindy are both archetypes 87 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: that we see every single season. I feel like they've 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: been resistant to bring those into the Golden seasons and 89 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: this is the first time they're leaning into it and 90 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: I love it. 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: Well said, Yes, I couldn't agree more. That is exactly 92 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: what's happening. Like that's like when Sidney is talking, I'm like, oh, 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: I've seen you a million times. 94 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, Cindy, welcome back. 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: You know, Nicole. 96 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. So the first date we have is 97 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: the group Date. It is a roast of mel and 98 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: it's hosted by Jared Freed, who we absolutely love. He's 99 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: been on this podcast multiple times. He's recapped hometowns with us. 100 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: We've gone to see him at the Comedy Seller in 101 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: New York perform stand up. I thought it was like 102 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: great to have him come on. 103 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah he was so he was. He was very fun. 104 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: He's like a good fit for a roast date, you 105 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I get I don't like 106 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: it when they bring someone on to host a date 107 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: that like has nothing to do with what the date is. 108 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: He was perfect. 109 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: He like aligns with the date, the comedian and they're 110 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: doing a roast. 111 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Yes, he was perfect. You could tell he got along 112 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: with all the women. I'm sure he gave them some help, 113 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 1: like some ideas, and it just it seemed watching it, 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: it seemed very light and like a like everyone was 115 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: having a good time. Usually on those roasts dates, like 116 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: someone's crying, someone leaves offend it. But it seemed like 117 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: everyone was having fun. 118 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think anyone took it too far to 119 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: where it became uncomfortable. 120 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: Who do you consider the winner? Who would you have 121 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: considered the winner? 122 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I personally think Monica was. I mean, here's 123 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: the thing. We're only seeing like a little bit of 124 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: everyone's but Monica went first, and I was like, wait, 125 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: ten out of ten, these are so funny, these are 126 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: great jokes. I thought her delivery, she was like relaxed 127 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: and confident she would be my winner. 128 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked I liked hers, But I would say 129 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: there's one. There was one joke that stood out above 130 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: the rest. Carol's yeah, because she's the only one that 131 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: went the other way on the Gary podcast or not 132 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: Cury Mel podcast, shit like she's dealing with. When she 133 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: was like Sae, like, I also go for forty, I 134 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: was like, yes, funny. Original best joke of the show was. 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: Good because everyone's obviously gonna comment on the fact that 136 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: we all know by now Melboyne on a podcast and 137 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 2: he said he only dates women that are like forty 138 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: years old, and everyone is gonna make that joke about like, well, Mel, 139 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: guess what you're sixty six two, and like blah blah blah. 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: And they all did in their own ways, and they 141 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: were all funny, but for Carol to come on and 142 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: be like, and you know what, same, I also want 143 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: a forty year old you know what? So I'm I 144 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: thought that was really. 145 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: Clever, really funny. Yeah, really really enjoyed that. 146 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: Nichols was also very funny. She's very confident. 147 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: Nicole won the group She won the group date. 148 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: And then another standout I would say was Amy, who 149 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Jared basically was like, you sound like my mom. He 150 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: goes to hell, don't marry this woman. 151 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: Well, she was a standout because Jared made that. Yeah, 152 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: he goes, well, because she just started marry this That 153 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: was funny. 154 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: It was funny because it's like the only reason he 155 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: could get away with it is because he's comparing her 156 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: to his mom, who he obviously loves. Like Jared, a 157 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: lot of his stand up is like poking fun at 158 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: his mom. Ye, but oh yeah, that was so funny. 159 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: She's Amy is very much a character. 160 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm actually sad to see Amy go because she she 161 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: was she. 162 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: Had more entertainment potential. 163 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah for sure. 164 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think I ever saw her working 165 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: out with mel They're just so different. 166 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 167 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: All right, So Nicole wins the group date. She ends 168 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: up getting the night portion of the date, and she 169 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: opens up about her two divorces, and she, you know, 170 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 2: she would love to get married again, have this one 171 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: last till the end of her life. She's very you know, 172 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: she takes a very like optimistic. 173 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: She's a free spirit. 174 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: She's such a free spirit. Well I think she's a 175 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: yoga instructor. 176 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: That makes total sense. 177 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got this like free spirit hippie vibe. I 178 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: kind of love it. 179 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: She would make the perfect like yoga instructor on an 180 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm. That's what she reminds me of. 181 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I picture out in the Hamptons, like by 182 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: the water, yoga. 183 00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: Curry enthusiasms, you know, just different if you're going to 184 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: jump on my storyline, like let's right, You're right, right? 185 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: Are all right? Yeah? I like that, Nicole. I'm biased 186 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 2: because I'm kind of like this too. But I am 187 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: someone that's like if I've got a question, like if 188 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: I want to know about something about someone, like I'm 189 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: not afraid to just like keep asking you questions. Like 190 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: I am like a little relentless in that way. Maybe 191 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: that's how I ended up being a podcast host. I 192 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: like that she went in there and was like, I 193 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: want to know about this guy's divorces, and he so 194 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: clearly didn't want to talk about it and opened up 195 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: to her about it, and she basically just like continued 196 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: to ask questions like the one word answers, and like 197 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: the kind of cold vibe was like not going to 198 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: stop this girl from like getting some information about the 199 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: ex wife, and like hats off, Like I thought she 200 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: did a great job. 201 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: But you don't feel like he shared the whole all 202 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: of it. 203 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: I think he gave the bare minimum to those questions. 204 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Now do you think that in you think that's fair 205 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: and you think he should be sharing all of it. 206 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: On one hand, it is early. However, I think that 207 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: when you're accepting the role of being the bachelor of 208 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: the bacherette, you're the lead of a dating show, and 209 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: it is expected that questions about your dating history and 210 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: your family are going to be kind of like at 211 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: the forefront, when these women are trying to get to 212 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: know you and like who you are and like how 213 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: you navigate relationships. I think even more so when you've 214 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: been through a divorce. And I was a little disappointed 215 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: by how little he gave and was willing to share. 216 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: I totally understand not wanting to be disrespectful to your 217 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: ex wife and keeping your children in mind, but I 218 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: felt like he could have definitely opened up more and 219 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: been more vulnerable in that moment. I thought it was 220 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: like surprising. I don't know if I've seen a lead 221 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: be like basically like so resistant to talking about something 222 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: that was so obviously going to be talked about. 223 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, on one hand, I agree with you. On another, 224 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: I do feel like I've if he if in the 225 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: back of his mind he knows that Nicole he's cutting eventually, 226 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: like he knows like this is not my person, then 227 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he I think he could give a 228 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: little bit, Like I don't think he has to open 229 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: up one hundred percent about like his divorce or something 230 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: that like he's reluctant to talk about because it's such 231 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: a big thing. I think he could hold that information 232 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: in for like, you know, the final three whatever, like 233 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: the women that he's actually considering, Mary and then I 234 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: do think they have the right to to know. 235 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree with that, actually, So I'm curious 236 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: now then to wait and see how he navigates the 237 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: rest of the season and if we do see him 238 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: open up more, because I do feel like we're on 239 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: episode three and we're not getting a lot out of Mel. 240 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if it was, but like you know, 241 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm a different person, Like if that was me, Like 242 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: you're here on. 243 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: The whole story, totally, totally. 244 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: You're hearing the whole thing. Serena, she was fucking she 245 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: was awful show. She came home one day and she's like, 246 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: that was it, and I was like. 247 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: He broke my hairt that's like barely more than what 248 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: Mel gave. 249 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm making my ship up on the 250 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: on the spot happen. 251 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm with you. No, Yeah, I'm I'm I'm. I think 252 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: Mal is going to get more comfortable as the season 253 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: goes on, as most leads do. I think he's maybe 254 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: still fighting his footing in the role a little bit. 255 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: He's still finding his show. 256 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: Also, we do have to give him a little slack. 257 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: He's never been on the fucking show like they do. 258 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: They are now taking leads that have never heard participated 259 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: in the show. So like if Mel would have went 260 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: through Jones season, he may he may be more vulnerable. 261 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, totally all right, Well, I think we're 262 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: in the warm up round for mel I'm I'm optimistic 263 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: that we're going to see a little more vulnerability, a 264 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: little more comfortability as the season goes on. But I 265 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: think Nicole was a good person to like try to 266 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: pull that out of him. Yeah, And moving on to 267 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: the next date of the episode, we have our one 268 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: on one date with Debbie, who you say every time 269 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: we watch an episode that you think he's gonna end 270 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: up with Debbie. I do you feel like really strongly 271 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: about that? From like night one, you've said that. 272 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's the winner. 273 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't disagree. I think there's a 274 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: good chance. 275 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: I'm between like her and the woman that you love peg. Yeah, 276 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: it's it's between those two in my opinion, and my 277 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: my the third one would be Sydney Cindy Sidney Cindy. 278 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how. I can't say. 279 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: I think comes into play a little bit that one. 280 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: I think those are like a very obvious top three 281 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: right now for sure, Like if those aren't the top. 282 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: Three, I just think he'll be Really I think he 283 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: really likes Debbie. Yeah, I think he really really likes Dubbie, 284 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: and I that's Yeah, that's where I where I think 285 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: he's going. 286 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I liked them together, and I really like her too. 287 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: She talks about she's never been married, she's never tried 288 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: on a wedding dress. Would you know if she makes 289 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: it near the end, she's going to be trying out 290 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: a wedding. 291 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: Dress and like the teaser that like next week they 292 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: do like a wedding date or something, and she's like 293 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: in a wedding dress for the first time. 294 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how I feel, Like, 295 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: do you think that's sad? Do you think it's sad 296 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: that she's. 297 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: I've been married. Yeah, I don't know if I think 298 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: it's sad necessarily, but I think that I I if 299 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: it's something that she wants and she hasn't been able. 300 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: To have, then it's sad. 301 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: Then that's sad, And I hope, I'm hopeful for her 302 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: that she'll find that, you know what I mean. But 303 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: it sounds like she went through a lot of her 304 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: life having other things be the most important thing to 305 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: her that necessarily weren't finding a partner and getting married. Yeah, 306 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: it's not like you know, she's wanted this forever and 307 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: it hasn't worked out Like it sounds like she had 308 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: a very full life and that part just kind of 309 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: slipped away and now she's looking for it, which I 310 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: think makes you like really want it for her, you 311 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like her story makes me be like, oh, 312 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: like I would love for her to find love. 313 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: Here there is something like they're like form like I'm 314 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: rooting for someone to get something that they've always wanted 315 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: and never have, you know, like yes, like like the 316 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: widow has experienced love and marriage. Yeah, where someone that's 317 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: never been married and has always wanted that has never 318 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: had that experience in their life. So for me, I'm 319 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: going to root for Debbie. 320 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: Okay, I actually think that that makes sense. Yeah, I 321 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: can totally. Yeah, I get that rationale for sure. They 322 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: do a cooking date with Michelin star chef chef Ludo, 323 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: who I will say didn't play as big of a 324 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: role as I thought he was going to. Okay, I 325 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of it was just like mel 326 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: showing Debbie had to like crack an egg. 327 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 328 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: I also was a little disappointed that they went with 329 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: a classic French omelet you. 330 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: Know, well, I mean it's like a big thing in cookbooks, 331 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: saying in all like chef movies that like, that's true. 332 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: The omelet is like that. If you want to test 333 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: a good chef, like have them make an omelet. 334 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: What was the movie that we watched when we first 335 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: got together about the Indian family moves to France. Yeah, 336 00:16:59,160 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: one hundred foot journ. 337 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: It's like one hundred or two hundred foot journey, a. 338 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 2: Couple hundred feet journey in that movie. That's movie I 339 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: think of because he makes like an omelet. That's like 340 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: the big scene. And then also in the Bear. 341 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: I was so excited when he show you that that 342 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: movie because I was like, I love food. You're Indian. 343 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I knew exactly why you're showing 344 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: me the movie when you turned it on. You know what, 345 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: And I will say, I love I love that it 346 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: brings Indian culture and Indian cuisine to the movie. It 347 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: actually was nice. I do like that movie. Okay, moving 348 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 2: on from Debbie. Her date was great. We see you know, 349 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: they they have great conversation, they have great chemistry. I 350 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: really feel like Mel is like locked in on her. 351 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: There's like one hundred percent a connection. 352 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: I agree. I think she has what Mel wants Yeah, 353 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: she was a workout instructor. She still is. I think 354 00:17:55,359 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: she still is. He's very much like I. I want 355 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: to stay in shape, I want to work out. I 356 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: played in the NFL. I think this is the perfect 357 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: woman for mal. 358 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 2: I also think if mel is looking for someone that's 359 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: going to be able to kind of blend into his 360 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: life seamlessly, it you know, she would have a little 361 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: more flexibility in terms of being able to move Like 362 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: I don't believe she has any children, so like. 363 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: Where does she live? 364 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'm being honest, but I would 365 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: say logistically it might be easier. And I think that 366 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: is in any relationship, but especially in the Golden Relationships. 367 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: A big conversation that they have is like, can we 368 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: make this work logistically? Where do we want to live? 369 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: Who has kids? Who had grandkids? Where are those people 370 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: live in? Like, you got a lot of people to 371 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: consider on the family trees with the Goldens Relationships. Agreed, 372 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: Debbie lives in Colorado. 373 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: Which is close West coast, West coast. 374 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so even if they want to do a little 375 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: long distance, no biggie, Yeah, all right, let's jump to 376 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: the mansion. Kathy and Susan are gals from the Golden 377 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: Bachelor Happy Hour podcast. Yeah, they made an appearance for 378 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: a slumber party. Love them so much. 379 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bachelor franchise has ever brought back 380 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: the same two people as much as they have brought 381 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: back Kathy in Susan. 382 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: Have they really made that many appearances? 383 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think so, nothing wrong with it. But 384 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: they love Kathy and Susan. 385 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I would say out of all the Goldens, 386 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: they've definitely been on the most. They've had the most 387 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: screen time. 388 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure. 389 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 2: But I thought this was super cute. They came in 390 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: with pjs, they did a slumber party. All the women 391 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: were so excited to see them, and we kind of 392 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: saw them give advice. They had some one on one chats. 393 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: Susan decided to give a strong piece of advice, a 394 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: great piece of advice to a lot of the women, 395 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: and all of these women seem to really take it 396 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: to heart, which was that they should just you know, 397 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: take charge and and not be afraid to like be 398 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: confident and basically like kiss MEU if you want to 399 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 2: kiss him, like just kiss him, which inevitably leads to 400 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: the Rose ceremony. Started. 401 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were like when she gave that advice, you 402 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: were like, I don't know about that. 403 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that because of what happens next, 404 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: which is that every single woman basically lines up to 405 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: plant one on Mel when he shows up at the 406 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: cocktail party for the Rows ceremony. I was like, girls, 407 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: I don't think this is what Susan met. Yeah, like 408 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: this is. It was like truly like the weirdest kiss 409 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 2: line I've ever seen. I was actually shocked. But I 410 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: also just think like that's where like the Golden Season 411 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 2: and the non Golden Season differ. Like if the Bachelor 412 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: came in episode three, week three and everyone started kissing 413 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: him in front of each other, that would just never happen. 414 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: Where's there something about like kissing on the Golden seasons 415 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: where it just seems more casual. I don't know, Am 416 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: I am I on to something or like so off base? 417 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: I I true. I think they show a shorter duration 418 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: of the actual. 419 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: Kiss on the Golden Season. 420 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I'm talking. 421 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: In the common room like with all the couches, like 422 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: when you walked in. This isn't like the one on 423 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: one conversations where you're in like having a private moment. 424 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: This is like, hey Mel, here's your drink. Yeah, hey Mel, 425 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: good to see you. 426 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just what they're doing on this season. 427 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. It really threw me off. Maybe I'm 428 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: the only one, but I was like, all right, Susan 429 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: told everyone to go for it, and they're going for it. 430 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they honestly, they don't have much time. 431 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: You know. It's like it's like you got to make 432 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: your move cuz you can eliminated and four people go 433 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: home this week. 434 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. I guess I just like I 435 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: don't know if I'm like going to have like my 436 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: first kiss with someone. I wanted to be like a 437 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: bit more of a moment and I want to be private. 438 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you also, you also went pretty far 439 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: on both seasons that you were on, so you got time. 440 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of women and a lot of guys 441 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: that go on the show that don't get much time and. 442 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: Like trying to make the most to kind of. 443 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: They try to make the most of it, and like 444 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: you end up just you know, like you're kind of 445 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: throwing a hell mary out there, and maybe it works 446 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: because if you know, a lot of these, a lot 447 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: of the contestants. If you end up just doing nothing, 448 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: you you are just going to go home. Yeah, and 449 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: most likely your kisses are going to seal the deal anyways, 450 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: but it could, right. 451 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: It could get you another week, which then gets you 452 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: enough time. 453 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: To make pressure and then maybe you know you're a 454 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: standout on the group date, and then next thing you 455 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: know you're top three. 456 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: True, so we have the rose ceremony. The two standouts 457 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: from the cocktail party would say, we're Carol, who definitely 458 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: got nervous and a little in her head, and she's 459 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 2: definitely more shy. I don't think mal is clicking as 460 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: much with the shy women as he is with the 461 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: more confident I don't know, like women that are like 462 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: more comfortable putting themselves out there kind of like I 463 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: don't want to say carrying the conversation, but like leading, 464 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: like women that are leading. 465 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: I think I think there is a part of that 466 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: that that is due to the fact that he's never 467 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: been on the show. 468 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah he's Yeah. 469 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: I also think that there's a big part of that's 470 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: probably just his personality and the type of woman that 471 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: he likes. But I do think like there's an element 472 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: of like it's really hard, Like this is difficult for me, 473 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: Like like I'm I'm being vulnerable opening up. I'm the 474 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: lead of this show. I've never done anything like this 475 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: in my life. And then like a woman steps in 476 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: and takes control of the situation, he could finally be like, 477 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I could, I could chill for a second. 478 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: I do feel like the leads love nothing more more 479 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: than a contestant that's willing to lead. Yeah, Like it's like, 480 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: all right, I got to get ten minutes and this 481 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: this person is gonna take charge of the conversation and 482 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: I can just be a passenger in this interaction. I 483 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: don't have to actually like step into the leading role 484 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: and carry our interaction here. Yeah, Like you can even 485 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: see the Carol. He like wants her to ask him 486 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: questions so that he can just kind of like engage 487 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: in like a call in response manner versus having to 488 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: like comfort her and make her feel comfortable, I would imagine, 489 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: because in a way he doesn't really feel comfortable either. 490 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but eventually that's gonna eventually, that's gonna get old. 491 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: Eventually he's gonna have to switch it around because he's 492 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to start like I I like, I enjoy 493 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: I like a two sided conversation like most people should. 494 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: But I do want to see like like Nicole, you know, 495 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: Nicole asks him a hard question, you know, about his divorce. 496 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: I would prefer for him to answer and then be like, 497 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: you've been married twice, what happened on that first marriage? Yeah, 498 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: and then what happened on the side, Like like, let's 499 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: let's get let's have like a full conversation here. 500 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: Well. I think that's the hard part about watching these 501 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: conversations back is they're so chopped down. 502 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I get that, and I know that 503 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: is the case, but there is, Yeah, there is sometimes 504 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: we see certain you know, with leads. There has been 505 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: certain leads where it usually it's sometimes it's just like 506 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: about them, yeah, you know, and it's kind of all 507 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: you those the whole season's really about them within those conversations, 508 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: and that gets boring to watch. 509 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to get to know the lead, and 510 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: you want to get to know the contestants like these interactions. 511 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: I think another stand out with Cindy. I know that 512 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: she's having a real hard time because she's fallen fast, 513 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: but I actually do think they have a really strong connection, 514 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: do you. Yeah, I do. How just I think watching 515 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: them interact, I think they have chemistry. I think he's 516 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: very attracted to her. 517 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't. That's the 518 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: thing I'm not really seeing. I'm not really seeing a 519 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: connection with anyone really well. 520 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: I mean it's early, it's like it's episode three, but. 521 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: But I'm not really like, oh, they're like I'm trying 522 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: to think, like hare. 523 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 2: Like I'll use charity and yeah. 524 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was gonna say, Like, like they 525 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: had a connection and it was pretty evident, and it 526 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: was early on and you kind of saw it throughout. 527 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: And I think he's like really into Debbie. I think 528 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: she's into him, but I'm not like, and I think 529 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: she's going to be the winner. But I'm not like 530 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: sold on their connection. I'm not like, look at the way, 531 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: look at the way these two are acting. Like, No, 532 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not seeing that yet. 533 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, yeah, but I mean I'm trying to 534 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: think if we saw that with Gary. I think Gary 535 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: was just a more like open soul than mal Is, 536 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: so it was like a little bit easier to get 537 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: a read on where he was at. 538 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: Gary and Bell are just too so different. Like Gary, 539 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: Gary was having a good time. Carry the whole season 540 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: was like Gary was like this is like I'm having fun, 541 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: Like this is fun, and like all the women were 542 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: having fun and it was more. 543 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: Mel keeps saying like I love to have fun. But 544 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if I see him having fun right now. 545 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: I stopped having a little fun at the pool party. 546 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: I thought he that was when he seemed the most 547 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: relaxed at the pool party. Maybe we got to get 548 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: this guy out of suits and we got to like 549 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: send him to a baseball game with one of these girls, 550 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: Like maybe let's meet him where he feels comfortable, because 551 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: I feel like we're going to get better love stories, 552 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: better connections once he is in his element. And I 553 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: just because he's never done this, I don't really see 554 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: him feeling that way when he's like out of row ceremony. 555 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree, I agree. Yeah. So then 556 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: we have, you know, four women go home. It's unfortunate, 557 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: but people do have to go home. Anyone that you. 558 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 2: Were shocked by, maybe Terry. 559 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: Terry was a good narrator. She was doing a lot 560 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: of narrating. 561 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: There's a lot of interviews that she was cool. 562 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked her. 563 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: I mean I liked all of them. She would just 564 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: be the only one that I thought maybe her and 565 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: mal had a bit of a connection over some of 566 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: the other women that stayed. Yeah, and I really liked 567 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: Monica be on the group date, but we didn't see 568 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: much of her otherwise unfortunately. What did you think of 569 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: the teaser for next week? Before we close out here? 570 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: Teaser for next week? Great, see what happens? We see 571 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: more stuff goes down with Nicole, which that's probably going 572 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: to be majority of the season. We see her mention 573 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: that she wants to be an influencer, which never really 574 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: goes well on the show. Maybe people will take it 575 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: differently because they are older, so maybe people would be like, yeah, 576 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: like fucking go be an influencer with her, though her 577 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: saying that as of now, I don't know how that 578 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: actually goes down. We see a little clip of that, 579 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: but I could see how it would rob a lot 580 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: of people the wrong way because she is over the 581 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: top at this point, like she is the one that's 582 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: on top of him kissing him yep, getting the screen time. 583 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: Is she doing that purposely, Like, we don't know, but 584 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: if she's trying to be an influencer, then I guess potentially. 585 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's hard when I think she's already rubbing 586 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: some of the girls the wrong way to then throw 587 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: that out there on top of it. It's not going 588 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: to get looked past. 589 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If you go on reality TV because 590 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: you want to grow social media following cool. 591 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: Don't talk about it. 592 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: Just don't talk. 593 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: Don't talk about it yourself. 594 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: Talk about it. You could want it, they could be honestly, 595 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: it could be your sole reason for being there. 596 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: Don't let a single person tell you. 597 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: Just don't say anything. Okay, that is an episode. Thank 598 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: you guys so much for tuning in to batch your 599 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: happy Hour. 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