WEBVTT - Andrew Shue 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.400 Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith. 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.480 And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio Podcast. 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.479 Welcome back to Still the Place. We have such a 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:21.280 fun episode this week. We are meeting with our good 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.720 friend Andrew Shoe. We're so excited we got to talk 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:30.840 to him. And Andrew played the lovable nice guy Billy 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.800 Campbell on Melro's Place, and we're going to get to 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:36.720 hear all of his stories and we get to go 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:41.520 down memory lane with him, and so yeah, we're about 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.519 to invite him in and we're going to have that conversation. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:48.239 Soo yay, yay Andrew. So good to see you. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.879 Good to see you, guys. I have to admit that 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.640 I've already failed you because I realized that you asked 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:58.320 me to watch I think I've seen the pilot within 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:59.560 the last five years. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.760 But that is all good enough. The test, it is 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.319 sort of like a test of we're all having challenges 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.319 with our memories, so you'll just be in good company. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.080 Like what you do or don't remember, it's all good. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.840 But what we really want to start with because we 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.000 all started here and I'm dying to know I've already 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:20.320 told my story of your audition. What do you remember 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:21.280 about your audition? 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:23.520 Just you really? 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.200 Okay, that's amazing. 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.360 Well, it is an interesting story. But it did end 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.720 in a room with I think they were like twenty 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:43.760 foot high ceilings in Aaron Spelling's house, in his what 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:45.520 I guess was called his office. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.600 It was like a library, right, yeah, well it was. 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.840 It was all you know, all the way around the 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:57.800 every wall filled with leather bound scripts of every episode 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.640 of every TV show he reproduced. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:01.480 Wow. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.120 And there were probably twenty five people in the room, 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.840 all the casting people, people from Fox, people from Spelling, 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:15.760 all the producers, Darren Starr, everybody from the show. And 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:20.400 how I ended up in that room is quite a story. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.840 So I have to go back, well, we have to. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.880 In nineteen ninety I went to Zimbabwe to teach math 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:38.000 and play professional soccer over there, and a very odd 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.680 thing happened. I got a phone call from my sister 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.440 about a month into the time there in Africa, and 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.040 I only got phone calls like four or five times 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.280 the entire year. When somebody called from America, you know, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.400 the phone was like jig, you know, and it's like 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.360 it was back then. It was five dollars a minute 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.320 it was. It was a big deal, and she got 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.000 on the phone and she said, Andrew, You're never gonna 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:04.800 believe what happened. The head of casting at Universal Pictures 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:10.640 saw a picture of us at a premiere of Soap Dish, 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:12.320 which was a movie that she had been in. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.320 Yeah. For those of you who don't know, Andrew's sister 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:15.320 is Elizabeth Shoe. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.240 Yeah, so saw a picture of us at a premiere, 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.080 and the head of casting at Universal Pictures wanted to 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.400 know if you are an actor, and so I told 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:25.000 them that you. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.240 Are, as sisters do. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.440 At this point, all I had done was two home 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.400 movies up in Maine when I was about seven and ten. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.200 And so now for the rest of the year, while 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.000 I'm in Zimbabwe, I have no idea what I'm going 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.760 to do with my life. I was thinking, I just 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:44.920 read Silence of the Lamb, so I was thinking I 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:49.200 would be an FBI agent, baby broadcast journalism, being a 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.320 sports commentator, and so the idea of being an actor 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.800 just in the way back of my mind. So when 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.720 I get back from Zimbabwe and I have to figure 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.480 out what I'm going to do, I applied to journalism school. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.920 I only applied to one school which is probably not 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.720 so smart, Columbia, which is probably the hardest one to 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.680 get into. I did not get in, and I started 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:15.360 working at ABC News trying to be, you know, a producer, 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.200 sports producer. I was basically just getting people coffee. And 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.560 then I decided to have a conversation with my sister's 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.920 acting coach because of that little thing in the back 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:30.240 of my head. So she woman named Sylvia Lee, amazing 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.520 woman who had coached my sister for a long time. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.160 She said, well, you know what, you kind of have 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.400 the same thing that your sister has, which is just 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:46.520 the ability to know when you're full of shit, and 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.960 you seem smart enough, and if you're willing to work 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.120 at it, I'm sure you could do whatever she's doing. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.800 I was like, oh, really, how much do I have 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:57.479 to pay? So anyway, I worked out it for a year. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.640 I had a little black book. Back then we had 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.240 a little bit black books where you write down every audition, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.320 and I had thirty auditions for like TV shows and 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.240 movies and things like that. I got two callbacks on 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.760 those thirty auditions that we got a part. And I 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:18.000 had about one hundred and twenty commercial auditions I got 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.000 zero callbacks on those twenty. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.040 Are you exaggerating with one hundred and twenty or is 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:22.800 that a real number? 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.120 No, And I was a real number in his book book. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.080 It's an unbelievable yeah, in my black book. So then 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.040 I decided, you know what, I'm going to give this 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.680 whole acting thing one more year because I heard that 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.080 they cast a lot more out in LA because they 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:38.479 you know, you need to be there if you're going 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.599 to get one of the small parts, and you know 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.000 that's the only way you're going to get your start. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.040 And so I went out there, and the first month 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.800 I was there, the Olympics were on. I hope you 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.560 guys are all watching the Olympics. I actually just I 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.880 just put the Women's All Around on pause so I 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:58.880 can see what happened. Good, good, And so I get 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.320 out there. I'm renting a place right off of Hollywood 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.880 Boulevard that went for two hundred and eighty five dollars 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:11.920 a month. Amazing, right, and somebody was murdered right outside 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:18.599 while you lived there or and yeah, So that that 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.120 was where I started out, and within a month I 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.279 just happened to get a small part on the Wonder 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:29.240 Years and then a month later, I auditioned for Melro's place, 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.840 and I had to memorize the long monologue when I 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.960 first walk up and meet my character meets Alison Parker, 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.760 and so I remember I memorized that that monologue and 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.359 I had it nailed. I went in and read with 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.320 the casting director. I thought I had done really well, 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:51.960 and they never ever called me again. That was it. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.440 I was like, okay, thank you. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.760 So when you wouldn't get a callback, would you write 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.080 in your book no or just like question mark. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:05.800 I just I just write they missed them, their loss. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.280 And so so now cut to and the next another 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:15.640 month later, I uh, I get an audition based on 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.880 a monologue that I had done back in New York, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.920 where I'm gonna have to admit that it was not 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.560 really acting because it was basically me making up a story. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.040 So they do these monologues. I was like, oh, this 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.120 monologue and like, well, what was that from. I'm like, well, 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.880 I'm not really sure, but it was just an Embella story. 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.320 But it was really good. Bob Harbin was the one 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:41.680 who he was at at Fox. He's the one who really, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:43.760 you know, kind of got me in the flow of 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.640 getting into Spelling. I ended up getting a pilot for 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.120 Spelling called Gulf City, which I was very excited about 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.720 because it was basically a star Skin Hutch show and 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.360 I was going to be one of the one of 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.880 the cops. And we went down and we filmed it. 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.280 It was it was a huge deal. Like I like, 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.560 I couldn't believe I gone from nothing to one little 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.520 scene on the Winter Years to getting this pilot. And 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.840 it turned out that that the movie Soap Dish that 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.680 I had been recognized that by the casting person, was 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.960 produced by Aaron Spelling. So my sister was in the movie, 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.440 which is about a soap opera Whoopy Goldberg and Kevin 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:25.560 Klein and great, exactly good. Yeah you've been reading now. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:31.360 So so anyway, they end up, unbeknownst to me, they 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.559 they end up casting Billy and the whole cast and 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.200 then the person that they cast Unfortunately, for I guess 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.240 a bunch of different reasons, they decided to not move forward. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:47.160 At the very last minute. I think he had you know, 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.760 they'd just done some testing and so they had to 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:54.160 do a crash course audition for the part of Billy. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.000 And because I had just done this, this pilot. They 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.920 basically had thirty guys show up at Aaron Spelling's how 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.760 and I remember pulling in with my my eighty two 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.320 Masda that I had bought for one thousand dollars. With 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.640 the three thousand dollars I got in my grandmother's will 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.880 and I pulled into the parking lot and there was 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.840 thirty cars like in the semi circle. And after we 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.000 all went in for multiple auditions, I was there probably 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.640 like three hours. And I remember walking into that room 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:32.520 and seeing Courtney porn Smith and is the most beautiful 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:37.400 person inside and out. And I remember it just wasn't 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.920 even acting because I knew the monologue from way back when, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.920 and I just walked in and I just started spewing 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.800 this stuff and talking to her, and everybody in the 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.440 room just just disappeared, and I was just I was 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:53.840 just completely connected with her, and I went in I 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.280 was about to read for the third time when they 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:00.360 let the last person go and Aaron Spelling walk out 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:05.040 with Peter Chernan, who later became the CEO of all 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:09.120 of Newscore and still obviously an incredibly successful businessman. He 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.880 was the head of Fox TV, and I saw him 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.160 talking to Aaron and he was like, so, what's the deal, 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:15.720 what do you want. He's like, oh, I told you 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.160 I wanted Andrew the whole time, So this is the 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.480 whole thing. Was just going through the process of Aaron, 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.760 you know, picking me to do this so I get 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.800 the part. And that was on a Saturday, and I 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.120 was shooting on Monday. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.439 So when you were sitting out there with Andrews, when 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.800 you were sitting out there, you start with thirty guys, right, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.560 And it was like ten thirty on a Saturday morning, 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.400 as I remember. So they were letting guys go like 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.640 you can go, like Courus line the movie, like you 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.440 can go, you can go? Oh really? And it was 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.120 down to you because you know originally and I think 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.040 you know this, but I told this ever before, there 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.480 was another guy that most of the executives wanted. And 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.040 Aaron's like, you're right, you're right, you're right, You're one 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.160 hundred percent right. That's the guy. I just think maybe 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.520 we should consider Andrew Shoe. I just of course, you're 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.600 totally and bit by bit like he and he was 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.120 right obviously, bit by bit he turned them. It was 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.040 fascinating to watch. So they're letting guys go and it 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:09.840 was just you and this other guy. I don't remember 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:10.240 who it was. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.160 At the end, there's one other guy. Ye. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.760 Wow, thats they cast you that day. They came in 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:16.680 and told you that day. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.080 No, no, no, he Aaron walked over to me. I 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.439 mean literally, he said, well you got the part. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:23.960 Baby bababe. 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.320 Yeah, yeah, And. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.080 I was like right away. So he he called me 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.120 at my little two hundred and eighty five dollars apartment 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:33.920 on Friday and said, I want you to do me 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.920 a favor. I want you to come and read at 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.000 my house. I'm doing these readings and I just need 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:39.240 people to read with. 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:40.600 Aaron called you. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.400 Yeah, literally called me at my house. I looked and said, 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.360 just do me a favor. Because he knew it and 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.240 didn't tell me that Gulf City had been canceled. Oh 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.079 if he called me Golf City is canceled and now 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.440 this is your only you know, boat home, I would 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.920 have been I would have been a wreck. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:11:59.400 Wow. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.400 They're completely relaxed. So when he told me I got 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.040 the part, I was I was like, what are you 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.520 talking about? What about Gulf Cities? Like, oh, that got 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.640 canceled like four days ago. And I actually kind of 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.480 felt sick to my stomach. I was, oh, my gosh, 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.040 that was such a great show. And He's like, trust me, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.160 this is gonna be good. This is really you have 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:19.480 an idea. This is a big show. And you know 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.520 because and I'm like, I'd barely even heard a nine 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.600 two and I was like, what what do you mean? 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.200 This is like a soap opera? The twenty people. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.960 Wow, that's incredible. Aaron was an actor and there you 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.680 can see it in that moment because he created a 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.040 situation where you didn't have anything at stake and you 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.240 could and that was your energy in the day, like 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.000 everybody's coming very intense, and you were so lighthearted and 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.079 as extraordinarily charming as you always are. And it was 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:46.840 such a breath of fresh air when you came in 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.840 the room. And isn't that amazing that he gave you 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.120 the space to do that. I didn't know that part 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:53.360 of the story. That's Andrew. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.559 Were you nervous at any point? I mean I'm hearing 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.640 you come in and you you know you were. No, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.440 We're like taken by her and you weren't nervous. You 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.400 drive up to this mansion and bel air and all these. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:10.320 People, no I mean, I think I think also just 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.719 because my sister had managed her career so well and 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.400 kind of just seen seen the business for what it was, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.360 and I genuinely thought I was on Gulf City, so 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.520 I just saw this as a business opportunity just to 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.240 meet people. So I was like, I'm meeting Courtney Thorpe Smith, 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:28.880 and I look at all these other people like, hey, 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.480 I walked in. I was like, how you doing, what's 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.040 going on? What are you guys doing? And you know, 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.560 I was I was completely more kind of almost you know, 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.960 a political mode, not not at all like thinking about 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:41.720 my performance and what to do and. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.160 Did that change then when you should up on the set, 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.760 like what was it like? First you're like, oh, this 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.440 is real. 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.680 Yeah, and then you probably can see by the performance 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.680 it was literally just me trying to pretend to be 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.640 me and like being like, you're okay, just be Andrew, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:03.080 You're going to be fine. You know I was not again, Yeah, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.320 I was. I was a very I was. I was 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:09.560 the proverbial rookie who who everybody was very sweet too, 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:14.360 and Courtney. I just remember every being everybody being so kind, 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:19.600 so professional, uh, and I was just wide eyed ously 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.840 I've never done this before. I mean, the Sculp City 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.680 thing was five days, and I think I was pretty 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:29.360 terrible in that, but it was it was just so 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:33.160 fun and exciting, uh, that that whole period. The other 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.920 crazy thing was that you probably don't remember that. Maybe 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.120 you do remember this, but the the La riots because 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:44.200 of the Rodney King vile happened right at the beginning 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:48.360 of the shooting of Melroe's Place, which delayed the shooting 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:53.360 for two weeks. If the riots hadn't happened, Melros would 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.600 have started shooting two weeks earlier, the audition for Billy 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.680 would have happened two weeks earlier, and I would not 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.400 have been available because because Gold City would would have 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:06.000 absolutely been been still there. So the timing of Golf 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.680 City getting canceled and it all. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:11.360 Wow, I didn't realize. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:12.600 I didn't put that together. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:13.800 The riots. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.360 That was a I remember being up in the hills 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.480 and just looking down and seeing just this, you know, 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.160 the smoke coming up in different areas. It was such 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:23.000 a terrifying time. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:23.400 Wow. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:30.880 Yeah, So back to the pilot, do you remember, because 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.760 we watched the pilot and I had totally forgotten that 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.480 you started as a dance instructor. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.320 Do you remember that scene of you dancing with a mop? 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:44.120 I do? I do. I will say that I got. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.360 Let's see what's the right. As the series went on, 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:54.640 I was less free with myself to really embrace some 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.080 of the crazy stuff that they were writing. So I 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.520 would be like, I'm going to underplay this. I'm going 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.480 to underplay that. People wouldn't normally do this, people wouldn't 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.160 normally say this, which wasn't very good because I think 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.000 in the end, really going after it the way I did. Clearly, 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.120 when I was up there on the on the bed dancing, 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.240 I was all in. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.440 So charming, so adorable. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.720 Well maybe it worked, maybe it worked, but I was 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.920 definitely pretty free with all that. But yeah, that was 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.320 I just said, okay, that's what they want me to do, 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.080 get up there and just start dancing. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.520 It completely worked. It was so charming. And when we 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.240 talked about the pilot on the show, we were I 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.840 was it must have been directed to just be horrible 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.160 to you, and you were especially that first things with 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.600 You're so charming and you're so bulliant, and you're so friendly, 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:44.360 and I'm so mean to you just like everything. Why 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.040 is she such a horrible, horrible person, but there had 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.360 to be somewhere to go. I hope or I was 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:50.640 just a horrible horrible person. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.000 No, you were scripted. You did what you were hoping. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:53.960 You did what was written. 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:54.960 Look, do you guys. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.160 Remember being directed by Howie Deutsche, like specifically, was. 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.960 He asking you to go bigger Andrew? 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.400 And was he asking you to go colder? Or do 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:03.160 you remember anything? 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:08.080 I remember I remember just just being like, uh, relaxed, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.679 just relaxed, enjoy it, go for it, you know. But 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.320 it wasn't ever like do more. I think I think 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.040 it just worked again because I was I was so 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.800 excited to be there, and I think the character was 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:25.120 so excited. He's got his first job, oh my god, 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:29.320 he's living with this new beautiful woman and it's all happening. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:33.800 So it all, it all worked. You're you being the 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:38.360 way you were actually you. You look like you were 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.960 covering in a way kind of like to like you. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.080 You let out little little moments, which was perfect. It 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.959 was like breadcrumbs just like for for episode after episode 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.240 after episode to get get us till there was. 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.400 A conscious acting choice. Andrew. It was all very carefully 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:52.960 thought out. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.280 She's softening. She's softening. 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.680 Well, it's really sweet to watch it because I get 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.879 to first of all, and I was trying to remember, 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.159 do you remember what episode? Because I remember saying I 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.560 will never date a co star, I'm way too professional. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.920 And then I'm thinking, like episode two, I was like, yeah, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.600 I'll kiss him like where I think I held on 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.080 for like a week and a half. Do you remember 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.320 which episode? Because I was watching which episode was like 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.119 episode four that we started dating. I was watching like 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:33.280 episode four and remembers we did wait, WATCHT met me Andrew, Yes, you. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:34.080 Told me you dated. 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.600 I have pictures. I have pictures to prove it. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:37.760 Pictures to prove it. 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:43.159 I will. I feel guilty about that. That's probably all 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.879 my fault. I mean I should have I should have 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:46.680 held off for a lot. 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.520 I feel like I'm in a very private intimate conversation 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.840 right here, like I don't belong here, listening to the 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:55.439 years ago. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:57.719 He's good, She's still jealous. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.080 When we watched scenes of you with guest star. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.200 Watching you kissing Jensen, I was like, I will take 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:07.200 her head right off episode two. I don't think we're 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.679 dating them, but I must have been, like my my 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.560 hard heart was already thawing. And then there was one 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.320 where we had a guest and I was kissing the 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.600 guest and I remember him saying to you, she has 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.480 the hots for me. And you and I were already dating, 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:25.600 and you were telling me you have a hots. And 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.480 that was like episode four. So I, in my vast 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.119 professionalism as the old time in the business lasted roughly 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:34.240 seventeen days. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:36.119 I appreciate it. 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:40.160 Admirable, admirable restraint. 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.880 Yeah, I mean we didn't. You couldn't tell. The chemistry 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.720 was all there. It did look like we were we 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.159 were really pushing for something. 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.720 I mean, you guys have one of the iconic relationships 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.600 on television and from that era, and it lasted. You guys, 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.560 Billy and Allison were on and off for years. 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:01.680 I believe you guys. 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.960 Were you guys I think ended in life right, But 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:05.760 then you kept going. 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.000 Was that weird? Was that easy? 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:09.639 It was shockingly not weird. 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.240 It was that we we handled it well. I remember 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.280 there was a little bit a little bit of time 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:17.440 where it was tough. 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:19.159 Well do you remember me having to talk with you 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.520 because we were the characters were still dating and you 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.080 and I weren't dating, So we broke up at the 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.680 beginning of the breaks. We had a couple of months 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:27.760 to sort of adjust, and then we started back and 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:29.480 we were still dating. So we'd been broken up for 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:31.200 two months and then we had to kiss. You remember 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:38.000 me saying, Okay, now we're professionals, no tongue. This is 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:41.400 the kind of podcast this is, and I'm a professional. 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:48.320