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Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be

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Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. You know, let's talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of the superlatives from the game. Best dress, um, and

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Speaker 1: looks like you know, Aaron Jones or what's the running

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Speaker 1: back's name. Yeah, he looks like he's playing pretty well.

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Speaker 1: What if we did a segment that we took the

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Speaker 1: key element of a game and we called it the

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Speaker 1: turning point to marry What do you think can we

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Speaker 1: use that the turning point? She's just looking at me

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Speaker 1: like I'm not having it all right tomorrow? Were keeping

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Speaker 1: you up over that? It is? Williams and Philam, what's up? William?

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Speaker 1: How about muting your phone so that we're not you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like or the people get it. You're popular from

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Speaker 1: what you saw. He did well, but you're not. You're

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Speaker 1: not keying on Cole Strange every play. I want you

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Speaker 1: to have more confidence from yourself. I was great again, right,

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Speaker 1: and you make a deep run into the playoffs again,

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Speaker 1: and god forbid with the super Bowl. Well, I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying you do come. This is Patriots Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan.

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Speaker 1: All Right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 1: at Gilette Stadium, and we're gonna be talking about the

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Speaker 1: Patriots for the next two hours. It's Deuce, It's Alex,

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Speaker 1: It's Paul, It's Fred and Matt and the booth and

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Speaker 1: uh so what are we? What are we thinking here? Now?

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Speaker 1: It's the turn the page day. Now we fully turn

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Speaker 1: our attention to the Ravens. A big test coming up,

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Speaker 1: big test. Just a quick little bit of news. Oh

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Speaker 1: oh oh, Jordan Schultz, the guy who's kind of on

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Speaker 1: I think we're starting to trust him, by I don't.

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Speaker 1: I just want to state for the record, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what the news is. He a blue check

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Speaker 1: mark guy. He's a blue check mark guy. For the score.

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Speaker 1: He is reporting that dot Terrence Mitchell is getting signed

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Speaker 1: off of the Patriots practice squad by the Titans, so

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Speaker 1: he'll he'll head to Tennessee to be on their fifty

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Speaker 1: three man roster. Tens Mitchell. Okay, not the major but

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of a move there. Okay. Next,

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Speaker 1: their depth of tiny bit. Yeah, yeah, just I mean, no, no, uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. But once you fool

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Speaker 1: me where we see wrong before a handful of times,

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Speaker 1: Mike might know the details of the ones, but like

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Speaker 1: we've we've kind of gotten caught up in some of those,

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Speaker 1: um and not, wasn't it Sergeant Schultz and said, I

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Speaker 1: know nothing. Maybe that's the correct perhaps correct. So maybe

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Speaker 1: he's uh, I don't know, Maybe he's a little bit

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think sometimes you feel like

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Speaker 1: some people just random people start with like sources tell

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Speaker 1: me like you're just making this up. But I think

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Speaker 1: he's seems like that's obviously something that will be easy.

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Speaker 1: Conferrence Mitchell good bye, remember Murray. At one point we

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Speaker 1: were like, Terrence Mitchell looks like he's gonna be a starter.

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Speaker 1: I mean he looked like it. I mean it was

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Speaker 1: him and Malcolm Butler from the from the get go

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Speaker 1: like the first couple of days of the preseason, We're like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: should we should we be paying attention to him? All right?

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Speaker 1: I liked him? No, maybe not, No, he got He

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Speaker 1: got torched a couple of times in the preseason, but

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Speaker 1: still made should get into the practice squad. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that the Titans are hurting right now, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're getting generating their points. Yeah, okay, interesting challenge though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, how do the Patriots approach them? Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: I think he took another visit somewhere else. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're just looking to add some experience. Yeah. A

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Speaker 1: But who knows. But here's the well, yeah, last year

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Speaker 1: the whole time, retained him, like he didn't keep going

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Speaker 1: an athletic freak, and that's will always be tantalizing to them.

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Speaker 1: But my day is about to go sideways with Bill,

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Speaker 1: we're in a red hoodie right now, which, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: on this one. It's but he had I mean, he

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Speaker 1: now he'll like cut the sleeves off where it's like

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Speaker 1: I'm not afraid either. I'm gonna wear red. I want Well,

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Speaker 1: panic but it. But I'm sure my mentions will be

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Speaker 1: quite I hope they haven't been stock because he moves

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Speaker 1: a good turn. See those arms. I'm the color Bill's hoodie.

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Speaker 1: results like in red? Never seen him in red before.

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Speaker 1: That's stuff stuff sending me a text. So this is

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Speaker 1: like Yeah, this is getting traction, right, I think it is. Well,

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Speaker 1: creating a buzz. I'm sorry, Like he hadn't worn that

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Speaker 1: the percentages of you know what what you got? Right?

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Speaker 1: doing here. Well, that's social media. Got a check mark,

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Speaker 1: Alex after year, I need to ask you a question

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Speaker 1: Ravens by six. No, you get three when you're at home, correct,

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Speaker 1: What am I talking about? But still the familiarity of

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Speaker 1: being in your own locker room. And I mean, in

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Speaker 1: all seriousness, do you think if Brady was the quarterback

424
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty they would have gone seven and nine?

425
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: All right? So lately wouldn't have to overthink this? Yeah.

426
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Speaker 1: So you know it's Ravens coming in here, you know,

427
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Speaker 1: as a three point favorite in our place. That tells

428
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Speaker 1: you everything you need to significant, I think because it's

429
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Speaker 1: you don't ever see the Patriots underdogs um at home

430
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Speaker 1: ever ever, and then you don't really see them underdogs

431
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Speaker 1: a lot period. Now do you have the handle? I

432
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: do not have the handle. I got that for you

433
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Speaker 1: last night, I know. I sent it to you after

434
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Speaker 1: the boy Ryan Hannibal, Um, you know, happened to tweet

435
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: that out and I saw it and I said, Fred

436
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: needs this information. Yeah, and that was probably comforting for

437
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Speaker 1: you because all the money was on the Patriots, That's right.

438
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Speaker 1: You know. I'd liked to what did the sharps know,

439
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 1: like what the handle is? How how many people are

440
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Speaker 1: betting on the game, and then who was betting on what? Yeah? Yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: well our you know, our gambling guy, Brian, who's been

442
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Speaker 1: writing that he did pretty good this week, Brian four

443
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Speaker 1: and one. He went four and one, and his in

444
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: his picks nice and the only one he missed was

445
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Speaker 1: Stevenson having more than two catches? Any think he had one?

446
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: So it was it was pretty close. So he did,

447
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: he did pretty good. He's what do he goes? First week?

448
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,239
Speaker 1: Three and two? So pretty good picks from gambling? Right? Gambling? Right?

449
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: Good idea by me. Yeah, as they put me out

450
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Speaker 1: to pastor jobs. Why don't you let our listeners know

451
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking here? Sure? Well, Brian Hines, who

452
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,959
Speaker 1: has done some writing in the past for Pat's Pulpit,

453
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: and we've had him just doing a weekly you know,

454
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Speaker 1: gambling highlight of what the Patriots are doing. Paul's Paul's

455
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Speaker 1: Brillian idea. I should I should point out he I

456
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Speaker 1: don't know how brilliant that was. Well, Brian, he was

457
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: my idea. He came in and we talked to him

458
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: a lot about, you know, just using more advanced stats

459
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: and stuff to really hone in on the Patriots. I

460
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Speaker 1: think he's done a good job. I mean, just really

461
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Speaker 1: specific Patriots bet So if you're Patriots fan looking you know,

462
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Speaker 1: for things to bet, not necessarily always on the Patriots,

463
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Speaker 1: but just as far as the games go. Um, through

464
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Speaker 1: two weeks, he's had some some good picks. So those

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Speaker 1: will come out every Thursday, and yeah, check him out

466
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Speaker 1: and then maybe maybe put some money on it. Says

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Speaker 1: we can't bet, we don't. We're not going to write that.

468
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Speaker 1: We'll let somebody who can. Right, I have a certificate

469
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Speaker 1: in my office that prus that I can't bet. I

470
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Speaker 1: took you can't bet that, you can write about it.

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Speaker 1: I took the question that made the trips to the

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Speaker 1: new office. You haven't framed it yet, though you can

473
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Speaker 1: talk about it. Yeah, right next to your BU degree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that and you're gambling. I don't have my pet.

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Speaker 1: I don't have my diploma here. I got my gambling certifications.

476
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Speaker 1: When you got into the Hall of Fame there, did

477
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Speaker 1: they give you a ring? Do you get like a

478
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Speaker 1: hall of fame get a ring? You didn't get a

479
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Speaker 1: What do they give you? I don't It was like jacket,

480
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Speaker 1: what did they give you? I don't remember? You don't remember.

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Speaker 1: That's an honor pufflink. This is the best day of

482
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Speaker 1: you're life writing, he doesn't remember. It wasn't the best

483
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Speaker 1: day in my life. Okay, the birth of your children,

484
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Speaker 1: your your marriage, jos Jo Sing. Definitely get in the

485
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Speaker 1: BU Hall of Fame with like Harry aganis like who

486
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Speaker 1: else is in there? Again? I mean the BU Baseball

487
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, not the BU Athletics Hall of Fame

488
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Speaker 1: where Harry Againnis resides, although he's probably in the Baseball

489
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame too, right, Um, that's right, it's a

490
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Speaker 1: big difference. Well, but no ring, no ring, because I

491
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Speaker 1: noticed you know Tippet he wears his he loves his

492
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame ring. Yeah, Well, you know, why wouldn't you,

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Speaker 1: right right? I think I got some sort of uh

494
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Speaker 1: like like a hat. Yeah, you like like paper what

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Speaker 1: are the like paperweight? Paper? A little little thing? What

496
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Speaker 1: are those things called paperweight? But you know what I'm

497
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Speaker 1: talking about, Like one of those little things, that's the paperweight.

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Speaker 1: Now it's got a little thing emblem on it, like

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Speaker 1: the thing the thing that we all got for the

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Speaker 1: Not Done network. Yeah, oh those are called dumb What

501
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Speaker 1: is the what about you the name for that? Yeah,

502
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Speaker 1: it's the capstones. Okay, well something like that would have

503
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Speaker 1: more news, a little bit of news. No, this one

504
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: actually coming from IronPort sources, the writers. The Raiders are

505
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Speaker 1: trading for Patriots offensive tackle Justin Harn with the team's

506
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: flipping picks in twenty twenty four, getting some solid tackle depth.

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Speaker 1: So I like this, I like, I like, I'm gonna

508
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Speaker 1: go back to your theory. Yeah, when you see moves

509
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Speaker 1: that get made and you start wondering why we signed

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad last week, Marcus Cannon. Marcus Cannon,

511
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Speaker 1: So now we don't need Justin Harn is expendable, okay,

512
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Speaker 1: and the Raiders obviously needed some depth there because I

513
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: gotta be honest. When I saw yesterday that we had

514
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Speaker 1: made a transaction on the practice squad involving the tight ends,

515
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Speaker 1: helped me out due be left and we signed. Oh shoot,

516
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Speaker 1: I just yeah, it's like Johnny. But when I saw

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Speaker 1: that we had made a trans action on the practice squad,

518
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Speaker 1: my first thought was they brought in Marcus Cannon, see

519
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Speaker 1: if he had anything left, and he's going yeah, And

520
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: then it didn't involve him, So I was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: So you know, sometimes that happened Scotty Washington, not Johnny

522
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Speaker 1: Scotty Scotty another practice squad. So I wonder if maybe

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Speaker 1: they're comfortable that, you know, Cannon's here, spent a couple

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Speaker 1: of days, you know, maybe a couple of days in

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Speaker 1: the practice squad, goes through you know, handful of workouts here,

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Speaker 1: and they'd be comfortable elevating him as the as the

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Speaker 1: third tackle, or if they're you know, happy with just

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Speaker 1: and he'll be the third tackle and Cannon is strictly

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Speaker 1: insurance for you know, beyond that, yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but either way, I would say that Justin Hran had

531
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Speaker 1: a really tough summer. Um I thought he struggled in

532
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Speaker 1: every preseason game that he appeared in and was on

533
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Speaker 1: and off the field with injuries. Not overly surprised by this,

534
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Speaker 1: and the fact that the Raiders are really uh, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think a Luminore Jermaine, a luminoar I think was

536
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Speaker 1: starting at right tackle for them. So they have some

537
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Speaker 1: issues up front, all right? Confused with I want a

538
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Speaker 1: brand new five five past five hundred eight? Five five

539
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Speaker 1: past five hundred is the a sticket hut line web

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Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com is the email address? Got

541
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Speaker 1: a lot of emails coming in, So why don't we

542
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: read some of those? Let's see Jack writes in from Annaba.

543
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Speaker 1: He says during yesterday's show, the PU crew mentioned that

544
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Speaker 1: some fans and members of the media have already concluded

545
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: that mac Jones is a failure and are calling for

546
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: the Patriots to find another quarterback. Let's put things in perspective.

547
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: In his rookie season last year, Mac Jones started and

548
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: had the best season of any rookie quarterback in the league. Now,

549
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: in his second season, Mac may not appear to have

550
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Speaker 1: improved as much as some would hope, but he is

551
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: leading a team with a new offensive system, new offensive coaches,

552
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: and question marks along the offensive line and at receiver. Moreover,

553
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: opposing defensive coordinators have had an entire season to study

554
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Speaker 1: the video of Mat to devise new approaches to defend him.

555
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: Back in the old days, rookies didn't start a quarterback.

556
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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Trying to think if there's anything, um,

557
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: we all need to be patient and give Mac a

558
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: fair chance to develop during the next two seasons. I

559
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: am enjoying watching Mac grow along with the many promising

560
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: young players on this team. Well, I agree, I mean,

561
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Speaker 1: I agree with some you know, some patience. But his

562
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: last line was I'm enjoying watching Matt grow, not Mac grow.

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Speaker 1: I know you grow, but what what like? What what

564
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: have you most enjoyed about his couplin Like? For me,

565
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Speaker 1: it feels like he's kind of stagnated since you know,

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Speaker 1: middle of There's a couple of things there too. First,

567
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Speaker 1: we talked about this yesterday. I think that you would

568
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: identified Joe Murray on the Morning Show was the guy

569
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Speaker 1: who said he's not sure that Mac is the answer, right,

570
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah. I did a little bit more research

571
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: on this, and I can't find anybody else. I don't know.

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00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: There was an email we got to the show this morning,

573
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 1: and he's like going over a holy Cross quarterback that

574
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Speaker 1: we should be looking at. And I'm I'm I'm not

575
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Speaker 1: reading now, I'm not writing it. I'm not telling you

576
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Speaker 1: that I haven't heard phone call. I haven't heard calls

577
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: and I have Luca. I've heard people say I'm not

578
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: sure this is the guy. But I'm talking about the media.

579
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: Around here, it's been very much firmly on Max side

580
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: in terms of this whole offensive setup. It's not fair

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Speaker 1: to him. They don't have enough weapons, they don't have

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Speaker 1: a structure around him. He's being hung out to dry. Okay,

583
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 1: that's the vast majority of the opinion around here. The

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Speaker 1: second part of that is, I don't care if he

585
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Speaker 1: was the best, worst, or third of the rookie class

586
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: last year. Was he good and are you convinced that

587
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: he will be even better moving forward? That's all I

588
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: care about. I mean, one of the guys didn't play

589
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: last year, another guy only played half the year, and

590
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: another guy played for urban Meyer. I mean, what did

591
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: he exactly accomplished by being the best of the rookie

592
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks last year? Right? It was a low bar for

593
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: that year. So yeah, I want to see him wasn't

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Speaker 1: exactly nineteen eighty three, right, I want to see him.

595
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Speaker 1: To Mike's point, show me that he took the base

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Speaker 1: that he got last year, which I think we all

597
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: agree was promising, right. I thought he had a promising

598
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: rookie year and then build on that. So far, we

599
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: haven't really seen that progress for a variety of reasons

600
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: that aren't all his faults. I have a long commute,

601
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: so I get to think a lot, and yesterday I

602
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: was thinking about Max's rookie season, and then I was

603
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: thinking about Peyton Manning's rookie season, and Manning had a

604
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: ton of interceptions, and I was thinking to myself, is

605
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: it a bad thing that they kind of kept Mac

606
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Speaker 1: in a box his rookie season and in other words,

607
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: don't make mistakes, don't make mistakes, whereas Manning was like,

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Speaker 1: we know you're good, go ahead, just figure out what

609
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: you just just sling it. And so I'm wondering, like,

610
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Speaker 1: did Mac really never have a rookie season? He was

611
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Speaker 1: never allowed to have a rookie season, you know what

612
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Speaker 1: I mean in terms of just going out there and

613
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: making mistakes and getting them out of your system and

614
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: understanding what you can and can't do, you know, because

615
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: like you could say, hey, that match rookie season, by

616
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: the numbers was better than Peyton Manning's rookie season, and

617
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: it was right, you know, statistically it was. Statistically it was.

618
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Speaker 1: But is that because the way the Colts allowed Manning

619
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Speaker 1: to play, whereas we bottled up Mac you know, just

620
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: do this, be careful blah blah blah. Did that actually

621
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Speaker 1: stunt his growth a little bit? I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: just I think you could make conversations I was having

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Speaker 1: with this. You know, I would be to fly on

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Speaker 1: the wall of conversations among themselves. You know, I think

625
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: you could make an argument for that. But I also

626
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Speaker 1: would would wonder to further you a point, do they

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00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: treat him like that? Because I think they're still treating

628
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: him like right they might be. Do they treat him

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Speaker 1: like that because they watch practice every day? Yeah, and

630
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: they know that's how they need to treat him. Yeah,

631
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Speaker 1: Like if we allow him to do some of the

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00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: things that Peyton Manning did, boy, it's it's gonna get ugly.

633
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't again, Yeah, I don't know that to be

634
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: the case. But I heard Colin Coward talk about that

635
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, they ran the ball the last six and

636
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: a half minutes because that's what they felt was best

637
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: for them to win the game, because they don't necessarily

638
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: know that the other guy can go out and do

639
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: what Brady did so many times in those situations and

640
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: throw four times for first downs. Right again, I'm not

641
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: telling you that's right. I'm just saying that that's another

642
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: point of view. By the way, there's there's still a

643
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: debate about whether or not in that six and a

644
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: half minute dried they were using the zone runs or

645
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: just the old Patriots offense runs. We'll find out from

646
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: Eze when he comes in after one. Yeah, Ted Johnson,

647
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: who actually played, thinks that they did use some I mean,

648
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: he didn't think it was extensive. But because he's on

649
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: with me later, all right, we'll give me the evidence. Like,

650
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: why do you say that? Because this guy was doing so,

651
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: I'll be curious to talk to him. I just was

652
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: going by the emails this morning that we had for

653
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: pre show. Oh, no Mike and Tony today, just Mike

654
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: and Teddy. No, no, Tony Okay. Evidently, yeah, we'll see.

655
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: Teddy had a lot of thoughts. I'll be interested to

656
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: see how this goes. When I get there, I've got

657
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: a lot of muscles. Yeah. Really, it's like it's like press.

658
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: When he's a training camp, it's always like an obligatory

659
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: like looking for the gym. Ted, Well, I always go

660
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: with your skipped arm day today. Well he had a

661
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: whole thing yesterday. Yeah, Tuesday morning he was on he

662
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: was talking about he still goes to the gym a lot. Yeah,

663
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: and he goes to this like really spartan gym up

664
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: in brain Tree where it's like in a garage. It's

665
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: like your old spartan Yeah, rusty waits and all that stuff.

666
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: Love it. You know. I still work on the chest.

667
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: You know, bench press is my favorite. You might want

668
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: to like start thinking about like, you know, functional, I'd

669
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: love to see yoga Ted Johnson, like like Evalls and

670
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not lifting anymore. I got into yoga.

671
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm really sentera, like all stretched out and thin. But yeah,

672
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: so I like that though, Fred, And I mean I think, look,

673
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: I think the emailer is is, you know, the most

674
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: important thing is trying to get to develop and you know,

675
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: to nurture him here in the second year, and I

676
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: don't think you can talk about Mac without the elephant

677
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: in the room of the transition on offense, and you

678
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: know some of the changes on the offensive line that

679
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: were that were difficult. But you know, at the same time,

680
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: like this is the NFL and you have got teams

681
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: like Buffalo in your division and you saw what Miami

682
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: did last week. Like, if you want to be a

683
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: competitive team right now in the NFL, like you need

684
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: a plus quarterback who can make plays no matter what

685
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: the situation is, can bring it back, you know, And

686
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm all for like nurturing him and giving him a

687
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: chance and letting him grow. But like at a certain point,

688
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: at that time is over and you need to produce

689
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: on the field and you need to start making some

690
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 1: significant strides. And you know this year we need like

691
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: I want to say, a signature win, but you know,

692
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: you need one of those wins where you felt like, wow,

693
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: you know Mac took a real step forward. When was

694
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: the last time you ended a game and felt like,

695
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: Macto a real step forward today to jump on that point,

696
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: I think that's that's really important that they do something

697
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: like that. And even more like signature win is would

698
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: be great, Like you know they win Sunday I think

699
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: that's a signature win. I'll take it a step further.

700
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: Can they have a signature win where he kind of

701
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: stands toe to toe with somebody else playing well, yeah,

702
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: and outscores them right, or you know they're you know,

703
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: maybe playing poorly earlier in the game and build themselves

704
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: a two school deficit and respond to it. Yeah, you know,

705
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know mac Jones can get a lead

706
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: and keep it because that's how they win games. I

707
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: don't know that mac Jones could fall behind and rally

708
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: because he's never done it. Yeah, you know, I think

709
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: twenty five is the magic number. They've never won a

710
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: game allowing twenty five points. Yeah, and the games that

711
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: they've won with him largely feel the same. At last week,

712
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: even though it wasn't, you know, an artistic treasure, they

713
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: got a lead, they kept the lead throughout the game,

714
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: and they were never trailing. Right, you know, did that

715
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: to me? Make the stupid turnover even when you try to, right,

716
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: I know they can win that game. I've seen him

717
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: do it eleven times now. They've won all eleven games

718
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: in a very similar fashion. Um, I'd like to see

719
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: it a little bit, a little bit different, A little

720
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: bit different having to score at you know, maybe that

721
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: Houston game is the one outlier where they fell behind

722
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: and they responded. But yeah, I mean they also had

723
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: a ton of help. That was a That was a

724
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: good one, Paul, because I remember I was at the

725
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: game in Houston and I was, you know, when they

726
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: at the you know, lowest point of that game. I

727
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: see myself, this is the low point of post Brady.

728
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: And then they came back. They did that punt thing. Yeah,

729
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: and then they came back, But I was thinking, this

730
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: is the low point. Hopefully that was. That was the

731
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: first time I wasn't even watching the game. He was

732
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: just watching me lose my mind. That was the first

733
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: time I had to take deuces. That was as bad

734
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: as it got. And then they came back. But you know,

735
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: and I would say too, if you're a true Mac believer,

736
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: then you should look at this Ravens game and say,

737
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: let Mac eat, you know, like, go after those guys

738
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: if they if they if if you think that he

739
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: can throw it around the yard. What we've seen from

740
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: two weeks, this is a secondary to try to do it.

741
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: I feel like this has to be the week where

742
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 1: they establish some passing game. That's yeah. So I also

743
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: want to say this, like before we dump all over

744
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: the Ravens and then in turn, if we dump all

745
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: over Belichick for not allowing Mac to do what Mike

746
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: just said. In seven quarters this year, the Ravens defense

747
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: has been really good. They completely self destructed in the

748
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: fourth quarter in Miami. Right. They allowed twenty three points

749
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: in the first seven quarters of the season, nine against

750
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: the Jets, who scored thirty one the next week, right,

751
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: and fourteen through three quarters against Miami. Yea, then they

752
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: scored twenty eight points in the fourth quarter. So you

753
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, is the Ravens where they exposed

754
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and that's what they are? Right?

755
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess no, No, I think that's a pretty

756
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: good team that had a meltdown or the first seven

757
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: quarters of the season when they allowed twenty three points.

758
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: Ye Is that closer to what they are? Right? My

759
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: guess is that's closer to what they are. Yeah, Okay,

760
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you, And that's why I don't think

761
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come in here after the game, no matter

762
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: what happens and be like Matt just couldn't do it

763
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: against a terrible secondary, Like, and that's what I want

764
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: to avoid. I want to avoid, like, what is Patricia doing?

765
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: How did you watch the game? Did you see what

766
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle did? Like, that's what I'm

767
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: looking to avoid, is the mat Patricia onslaught if they

768
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: run the ball and play conservatively right, last year they

769
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: played the Ravens, they won two years but two years yeah,

770
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: oh was it two years ago? Already? Two years? Was

771
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: that the driving rain store? I was a moneah, Okay,

772
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: they didn't even play him last week, So I'm last year.

773
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: So I'm I don't want the old Cam Newton days.

774
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm going back. Man. Every time I got to go

775
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: back to that twenty twenty season, I'm just like, what

776
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: was that? What were we doing? But it was that

777
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: was a good game. I mean, that was their best

778
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: game of the year. It's unbelievable throw by Jacobe Miner unbelievable.

779
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: I was. I went back and read what I wrote

780
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: after the game, which was like, for the second week

781
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: in a row, Cam didn't make the backbreaking mistakes. Sorry

782
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: Betty Love, Uh you know, but uh you know, I

783
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: know Jacobe Marners made the play here. She's coming after

784
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: your balls. I don't care, but yeah, it's uh, it's

785
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: it's I just my conventional thinking is. And you know,

786
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: there's nothing that works one hundred percent, but I you

787
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: know my conventionals. Don't let him hit you with the

788
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: big plays, and try to keep him in the pocket,

789
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: try to beat let him make him beat you conventionally

790
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: underneath with Andrews and you know those receivers underneath and

791
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: and don't allow them the big plays. There's I mean,

792
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: this is one of those teams that you wonder can

793
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: they do it in ten twelve, fourteen plays. I did

794
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: watch a little of the game last night. Um they

795
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: had the replay of this game on and they had

796
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: a drive that was like nineteen plays. It was the

797
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: one that ended with the fourth down fumble on the

798
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: goal line. Um Lamar was trying to sneak it in,

799
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: didn't get the snap and they fumbled. But that was

800
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: a long drive. They converted some third downs on that drive, conventional,

801
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: not just Lamars scrambling around. I think they converted the

802
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: fourth down on that drive. So they did it. But

803
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if if your Belichick I would say,

804
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he can do that. Three four times

805
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: in the game to get to thirty and put the

806
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: game out of reach for us if we make him, uh,

807
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: sort of matriculate the ball, as Hank Stram would say,

808
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: as opposed to going with the seventy five yard touchdown

809
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: to Rashod Bateman. Yeah, I think the Patriots defense has

810
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: a much better chance. It's just difficult to pin down

811
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: because on one hand, you look at the speed that

812
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: they have and you want to go light and small

813
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: and fast. But then you look at how much they

814
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: play multiple tight ends and fullbacks and you know that

815
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: then that's where they get you. It's all part of,

816
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, the design, and that's the feature of what

817
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: they try to do to complement Lamar and you know,

818
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: kind of get you to pick and then and try

819
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: to attack you the other way. You kind of have

820
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: to have a defense where you don't have to be

821
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: substitute heavy. Yeah, where you can keep guys on the

822
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: field regardless of whether it's pass or run. That's hard

823
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: to do in today's NFL. You know, That's why they

824
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: were a problem. Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean you

825
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: had speed from Miami. I mean, those guys are fast,

826
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: but they didn't and yeah, and two u b lamar

827
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: next level. I mean, the best running quarterback until he

828
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: doesn't run. Yeah, you know, so just avoid the big

829
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: players and try to make them take underneath. That's, you know,

830
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: my best, my best estimate of how to try to

831
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: approach it. But even then it feels inevitable that they're

832
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: going to hit a couple. Do we have a number

833
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: for this game, Paul? Do you over under? Yeah? I

834
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: want to say forty four. Isn't that what I'm not sure?

835
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: Don said on Monday, I don't know for a Patriots game,

836
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: that's a that's a little high. Yeah, for this Patriots team,

837
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, so I think they're thinking maybe there's some

838
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: points scored. Here was the over runder last week? Yeah,

839
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. I forget where I read. I would

840
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: think it's less than forty four, don't you think? What

841
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: was it? But this week I'm seeing forty three and

842
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: a half. Forty three and a half this week, Oh,

843
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: I can tell you what it was last week? So

844
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: like a twenty three twenty kind of game that would

845
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: be a barnburner for the page. Last week was forty

846
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: and a half, forty and a half, Right, this is

847
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: what you say? Forty three and a half, so yeah,

848
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: three points higher, Yeah, I mean breaking two any points like,

849
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: let's go, yeah, let's please. Yeah, I think they will.

850
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: I have strange confidence this week, and I don't know

851
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: why I picked against the Patriots last week. I'm not

852
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: overly like wow, here we go. But I don't know.

853
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm feeling positive about this game for whatever reason.

854
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: I think Matt gets a full week of practice this week. Yeah,

855
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: no stomach bug, no packing right um. I think that

856
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: if you're Agalore and even Born and Myers, you're like, okay,

857
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: we you know, we could do some things here. Yeah.

858
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't know about Parker. I don't know what's going

859
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: on with Parker. No, they got I think I think

860
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: your first game will be a little crosser to Hunt.

861
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: The first play the game will be a little crosser

862
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: to Hunter Henry to get him get him gold right away.

863
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, get him involved. That's out of the

864
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 1: Parcels playbook. He used to love to get that tight

865
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: end involved right away. You know that's always Uh. I

866
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I think any sport, I mean, you guys

867
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: plays like you have a good play early on. It

868
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: just kind of I mean I remember playing hockey like

869
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: I literally would have a good warm up and feel

870
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: like good and warm up, and then I would I

871
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: would play well too, I mean even to go further.

872
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: But I mean, you can't feed everybody though. You can't

873
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: give everybody a pass on the first down to your

874
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: hand to leave the good curve in the bullpen. Higho

875
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: saved those for the game. All right, five five past

876
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: five hundred, sticking a hutline. Let's hit the phones. We'll

877
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: go to Neil and work what's up Neil? Hey, guys? So, um,

878
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: but the trade the Patriots just maker Justin or traded

879
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: Justin Moran to Vegas? Is this an elevation from Marcus

880
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: Cannon for the practice squad coming up? Or do you

881
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: think you're gonna try to trade trade Isaiah Win as well? Yeah,

882
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: we talked about Cannon. Um, that's I think that's on

883
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: the table. It's a possibility. Yeah, sure, I mean that's

884
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: a that's a good take though, you know, like reading

885
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: into why they do certain things, you know, now, do

886
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: they think because we have can and we can move Win?

887
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I don't think so, I mean,

888
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: what does that have to do with moving Harran? I?

889
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Don't know. Why does that make that more likely because

890
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: they like, I think that's less likely. Yeah, like I'm

891
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: going to get rid of two tackles because I brought

892
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: in the thirty four year old guy coming off back surgery. Well,

893
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like now that they know that,

894
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: well Cannon can play, he's gonna be okay. No that

895
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: I think you could accurately read the te leaves for Haran. Yeah,

896
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: if something happens to win or Brown, we feel like

897
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: we have two guys and could just Cannon that can

898
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: do what Haran could have done. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

899
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: I like you said Haran wasn't great, so I mean

900
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: it shows how desperate the Raiders are too. I agree.

901
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think Cannon's part of this, Neil.

902
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how big of a part, but I

903
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: do think he's part of it. Neil. I think also too,

904
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: Like this is they were going to tread future considerations

905
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four since Horno the sixth round draft pick.

906
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: Are they're gonna do like a fifth or six or

907
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: going to be like a third. I thought they said

908
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: a swapping of draft picks. Yeah, twenty twenty four picks says,

909
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: I that's what rap sheet said. I don't know if

910
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: there's been an update on that. You might have more info.

911
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: One that might depend on how much he plays too.

912
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes there's those kind of incentatives if yeah, it sounds like,

913
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: you know, you get a sixth and give them a

914
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: seventh or something like that, and if he plays a

915
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: bunch of elevates to the next level. It was kind

916
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 1: of trade right there. All right, thanks for the calling, Neil,

917
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: Let's go to me meaningless. Patty's an agawam. What's up

918
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: Patty going on? Guys? Hey, Patty? So, I just I

919
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: had a weird Hall of Fame questions seeing how like

920
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: the finalist list came out yesterday and there's obviously, you know,

921
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: brainers on there like Derell Reads and Joe Thomas um

922
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: and I'd even throw James Starrison for the next two.

923
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: But why do you guys think Rodney Harrison gets no

924
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: love for the Pro Football Hall of Fame? Because I

925
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: know you say, like you know things when you see him,

926
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: and to me, when I saw that guy play, even

927
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: before he came to the Patriots of San Diego, he

928
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: looks like a Hall of Fame player. Yeah, I don't know.

929
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing is no go ahead? Now

930
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: what did he not make the list this year? That's

931
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: the list of Hall of Famers. That's not like there's

932
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: no finalists or right, that's the list of eligible Hall

933
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: of Famers and right he's on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

934
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: Why why do you say he gets no love? I

935
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: just asking cotton in yet. Yeah, I mean, well that's

936
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: I can understand. But I think he's a consideration. Absolutely,

937
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: I do too, That's what That's what I was getting at. Yeah,

938
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: I got how do we know that he's like he

939
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: didn't get snub who to vote on these who votes

940
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: on these things? There's just the specific committee? Yeah there is? Yeah,

941
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: I I what, I don't know. That's a good that's

942
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: a really good point. Like we know the Hall of Fame,

943
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: Patty comes up with the actual class. You know, it's

944
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: the I think there's fifty voters. Peter King writes about

945
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: it all the time, you know locally here Ron borgis

946
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: I think is one of the voters. Rick Goslin, it's

947
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: one of the voters. Um, how do they pare down?

948
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: Is it the same committee that pairs it down from

949
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: I think there's one hundred and twenty nine guys that

950
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: are eligible this year players? Yea? Do they pair it

951
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: down to the semi finalists and the finalists and all

952
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: that before they vote on do they choose? Is it

953
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: the same committee for Do you have information on that?

954
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. Maybe Andy Hart votes, he might.

955
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: I want him away from my DIAPEPSI. I don't like

956
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: him near my stuff. It's just who allowed him back

957
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: in here? He's actually Andy? Do you have an answer

958
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: to that? Licking your You're such a bad person? Do

959
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: you have any answer for that? Andy? Why don't you

960
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: make yourself useful? Why don't you come on a radio

961
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: show when people are listening? Are you just gonna loiter

962
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: around Matt Morrell like a creepy You're gonna actually jump

963
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: on the show he's doing show. That's why I told him.

964
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: Why don't you come on and show where people are? Actually?

965
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: Why is he walking around? The fans are excited? This

966
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: is that Andy Hart peu reunion right here? Yeah? So

967
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how he got in here? And how

968
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: does the Hall of Fame pair of the players? I

969
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: think there was one hundred and twenty nine eligible players

970
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: and this year's class turn your mic on. I've never

971
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: done radio before. How real radio? How do they pare

972
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: it down to you? Look like you just got up

973
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: from a nap? Are you tired? No? Doesn't he look tired? No? Yeah,

974
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: I think you do. I think I think maybe he's

975
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: just getting Oh I'm definitely getting old. Yeah, no question.

976
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: So you got thrown out of any youth games recently? No, okay,

977
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: good for you. So you don't have the answer with

978
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: the second radio show to ask me about getting in

979
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: fights with refs in the last fifteen minutes, Noel. In fact,

980
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: you're probably aware that some high school football now has

981
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: to be played on Thursday nights due to a lack

982
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: of officials, at least down this way. Oh, I did

983
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: not know that. And we had a Thursday night game

984
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: and it was the best officiating crew we've ever had.

985
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: They were young, they could run. So the system is working, okay,

986
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: and you that's what I do. What I do your

987
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: hockey refs. I went to a hockey game this past weekend.

988
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: All I could think of was, you do have a

989
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: hockey game? Hockey game? I got a cousin that was

990
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: playing somewhere in Attleborough, New England. Sports were old or something. Yeah,

991
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: it was like meleeis and fights and well, I mean

992
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: do stuffs like eight games in a day, so you

993
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: can imagine what it's like if you happen to get

994
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: like the sixth game. I think those cheer pointing Andy like,

995
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I played college hockey, I could skate, so

996
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Like so much of the ref experience, I feel like

997
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: it's determined in the first five minutes, where you're like,

998
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: all right, this guy's in shape, he seems like he

999
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: wants to be here, and he knows he's here, right.

1000
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be as opposed to some of

1001
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: the rest I've worked with. The You're like, you're old,

1002
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: you're fat, you don't want to be here, you just

1003
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: want to sit at the blue line? Are you talking

1004
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: about personal? Shut up, Alex. It's good to have Andy back.

1005
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: So what was the questionable? Do you know what the

1006
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: process is to get the list of Hall of Famers

1007
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: that were announced? Yes, I don't want to talk to you.

1008
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: I want to talk to me. You made me laugh

1009
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: out loud. Mike goes there, how do they come about that?

1010
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: And you go there's a committee. Just look at them

1011
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: like that's the end of the answer. That's what I'm

1012
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: giving you, right, So you don't like you don't know either, No,

1013
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: I believe the actual committee part, Yes, I believe. So

1014
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: the forty eight members or whatever that board is of eight,

1015
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: they put out the first list and then they're like

1016
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: the I think no, I think you somebody balanced, Yeah,

1017
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: some sort of before they get it down to the point,

1018
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: probably need presentation. They probably need a certain amount of

1019
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: votes to get it. Yes, yes, But now that we

1020
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: have Andy, you know, um, by the way, I was

1021
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: just the reason I was waiting and hanging around is

1022
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: because I'm not allowed to walk around without an escort.

1023
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: And I texted your guy Aaron, and he's ghosting me. Okay,

1024
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: so he's out in practice. You're bringing your own escorts

1025
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: now to practice. That's a little you want to call

1026
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: Aaron and escort. It's not really my type. But if

1027
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: you're interested, But now that we have you here his kids,

1028
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: if you have a now that you have a chance

1029
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: to tell Patriots fans what you think about this team.

1030
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: And you know, on a state, you know place that

1031
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: actually people are listening. How many times you're gonna go

1032
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: to the same bad joke. But it's nothing bad about

1033
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: nothing bad. Yeah, that was so funny. It's really not

1034
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 1: a joke. Funny, but the truth is sometimes painful. What's

1035
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: what's your current status opinion of the Patriots? It has

1036
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: not changed that they're a mediocre football team. I thought

1037
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: they were going to be a mediocre football team. I

1038
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: thought they'd be right around five hundred and I don't

1039
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: know why you would change that now. I've seen some

1040
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: good things, I've seen some bad things. We don't even

1041
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: know your your baseline. So you thought they were mediocre?

1042
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: I had them with a nine? What did you have? Eight? Nine? Yeah? Wow,

1043
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: that's a new Fred. Wow, it's accurate Fred, as I've

1044
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: always been since when since I left? Maybe because when

1045
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: I was here, you were never for the last twenty

1046
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: eight years. Yeah, not the first week listen and not

1047
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: just put it this way long gone, or the days

1048
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: of fifteen and one tough schedule Yeah, one shoulder. He

1049
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: said it was a tough schedule, that already picked fifteen.

1050
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable, because so I do a podcast with your guy, FITZI, yeah,

1051
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: he picked nine and eight. He's your guy, except he's not.

1052
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: Because when you did an interview on our show this

1053
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: past weekend, I brought up something you said and he

1054
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: goes out and I stopped listening to him, and I

1055
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: was like, do you treat him like I treat Paul.

1056
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: I already know what he's gonna say, so I just

1057
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: ignore it. But he picked nine and eight, You picked

1058
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: eight and nine. Those, to me, are are interesting records

1059
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: for people that I think generally air on the side

1060
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: of yeah, positive positivity. I felt. I feel like, though

1061
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how much the actual Patriots performance has

1062
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: changed my outlook, but looking at the other teams on

1063
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: their schedule now has been like, well, I mean like

1064
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo and those not Buffalo, definitely not, but the Raiders. Yeah,

1065
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: but do you want to have the same experience you

1066
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: had last year? No, because I think you could be

1067
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: aligning first, even if those teams aren't as good and

1068
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: you sneak in the back end of the playoffs. Right now,

1069
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: you have to care about Buffalo in those Yeah, that

1070
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: will see you're not You're not playing the same game.

1071
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: I didn't think they had much of a shot of

1072
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. For Mike's reason. I now think that, well,

1073
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: are you looking over your glasses that aren't there? Because

1074
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: I think I think the Raiders, The Raiders, Cleveland, Indie. Yeah,

1075
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: right right. Those are three teams that I thought were

1076
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: going to be in the mix. Sincy. Do you ever

1077
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: let her talk? Yeah, she talks Whenever he has a name,

1078
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: it's Alex. I know, I couldn't think of it at

1079
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: that moment. I think we've met before. You actually have

1080
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: to say she didn't remember. I remember, just not her name.

1081
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: I'm bad with names. Overall, your reputation precedes you. Yeah,

1082
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: that's not good. Not from these people telling it. Don't

1083
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: trust these people for sure, you're going to say another word.

1084
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: They're not from these But in the game, in the

1085
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: last game specifically, nice are you? Are you wall in

1086
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: on the offensive line? What did you think? Uh, because

1087
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: we're a big line guy. Yes, And I'll tell you

1088
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: what I've been doing. I like a line play. Why

1089
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: not foundation? You can't have fullback play without a line

1090
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: Plus that James Devlin commercial that he does very good

1091
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: for tires commercial play that commercial teacher par shaped loser.

1092
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: So I have said I thought the offensive line should

1093
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: be a strength of this team offensively, whatever strength is.

1094
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the best in the league, just saying

1095
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: something you could lean on. I called it a house

1096
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: of cards because there's no depth and you have all

1097
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: these guys move in different positions. I didn't think they

1098
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: were very good in Miami, and last week I thought

1099
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: they played to a level where okay, that maybe could

1100
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: be something you build on moving forward. Certainly the the

1101
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: end of the game, the six and a half minute drive,

1102
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: the way they ran the football, that's good. Four minute

1103
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: football for six and a half minutes um without a

1104
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: full back too. I mean, but I well, they kind

1105
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: of have an F. Did you listen to nik Klie

1106
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: yesterday talking about the f's out there? Um so, but

1107
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: I still have depth concerns, right ye? Like, yeah, I

1108
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: still think it's a house of cards. Best, speaking of that,

1109
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: what do you think of the Harran trade? Do you

1110
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: think that means Marcus Cannon could be coming? It was

1111
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: a sixth for him and a seventh is the report?

1112
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: Didn't Bill one? Didn't Bill once say like something to

1113
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: the effect like just because you have a name on

1114
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: a depth chart doesn't mean you have depth, right, Like

1115
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: I think Justin Haran had reached that status where if

1116
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: you have a guy that you don't want to a

1117
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: guy you don't want to play is not depth just

1118
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: because he's there and he's in a uniform and he's

1119
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: got a number on like, you don't want to put

1120
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: him on the field. So if somebody else wants him,

1121
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: if Josh wants him, take him and then I'll figure

1122
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: out who else is next. But my bottom line is

1123
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: any one of those five doesn't play, I think they

1124
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 1: could have problems. No, I think I said that Andy, Thanks,

1125
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: well they did. They took win out willingly, and they

1126
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: took Strange out willingly in the short periods. And they

1127
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: do that almost every year in the first couple of

1128
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: games of the year, right, because they're trying. They're trying

1129
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: to build depth that they know is relaily known existed.

1130
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: That's correct, now, Marcus Cannon, I'm intrigued by I don't

1131
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: know if he's healthy. But you have a guy that

1132
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: used to be pretty good who knows your system all right,

1133
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: he's big yep. What else? I don't know what they

1134
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: got inside? I mean this system, what is the new sest?

1135
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. We haven't you guys haven't come to

1136
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: the end of that. No, No, we Tria offense. We

1137
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: were hoping, mister football. I'm still not the system. Well,

1138
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: it's it's clearly they they kind of vascialate back and

1139
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: forth vasily. This is vasolate, vascalate back and forth between Okay,

1140
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna be the outside zone. Oh crap, that doesn't work.

1141
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: Let's run some of the old stuff to get It's

1142
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: a little bit like Paul the old Brady to Edelman

1143
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: plays like nothing's working. Can we just throw a freaking

1144
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: slant to eet. But I heard people say about that

1145
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: last drive, the six thirty three drive at the end

1146
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: of the game, Oh, they were running, you know the Shanahan.

1147
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of between the tackle running I

1148
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: don't know us between the outside like, like, what made

1149
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: you think that that was the Shanahan off? It looked

1150
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: like just the slanting again. Everybody steps together, it's a dance,

1151
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: and we all step and then were on the move. Right.

1152
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: But that's what people who watched this spot say. It

1153
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: was happening. But if the guard blocks down, the other

1154
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: guard pulls through, not chance, that's not channing. It just

1155
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: it looked like so if you see a pulling guard,

1156
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: it's not channing. There was I will tell you on

1157
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: the last couple of runs to the left tackle, there

1158
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: was a lot of unison slanting out to the left right.

1159
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means it's zone. I don't.

1160
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not doing it necessarily, but I'm not.

1161
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: But they were doing they were doing what they said.

1162
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: It entails. You have to get out of your block

1163
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: in that style, you have to be on the move.

1164
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 1: And then the and then the running back picks is lane.

1165
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. All I saw was ball snap

1166
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: and running back goes to the hole. Well, in that situation,

1167
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: you're going to be I think more decisive and aggressive. Yeah,

1168
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: because the situation you're in, you're trying to run clock right.

1169
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: Want any negative plays those types. I'm not convinced that,

1170
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: you know, and I could be wrong, but I don't

1171
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: think that that last six thirty three was going to

1172
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: the zone runs. Well, they've been mixing both back and forth,

1173
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: I thought all summer, all preseason. Yeah, they have, and

1174
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: I think they've done it in the past with docte

1175
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: and with the old offense. So why is this the

1176
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: Shanahan offense just based on your base run because some

1177
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: of your people, some of your people want that, like

1178
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: the analytics and shan list and that, like they try

1179
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: to reinvent the wheel. It's still just football. You got

1180
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: five guys that are trying to when Bill comes up

1181
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: with a cap with a straight brim, then and that's why, like,

1182
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: like I think it was like a stat of like

1183
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: outside runs versus you know outside don't like all right,

1184
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: so they were like three outside? So does that mean

1185
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: Shanahan offense? Off? Like? Does that? Like like I'm trying

1186
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: to think why people are just so glomming onto it's

1187
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: a Shanahan offense, like because I don't know how much

1188
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: truth there really is. I also think, and I don't

1189
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: know if you guys would agree, because of Patricia and

1190
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: Judge and the scheme and all of this, it's like

1191
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit. Anytime something happens, it's because of all

1192
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: these decisions. Sometimes it's just bad plays. Like I watched

1193
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: bad plays for twenty years under great coaching with great quarterbacking,

1194
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: great players. But because we have this low hanging new scheme,

1195
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: Patrician doesn't know what he's doing fruit, It's like everything

1196
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: goes back to that. No, Sometimes Trent Brown doesn't block

1197
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: the guy you mean, or doesn't try to block the

1198
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: guy you mean. When Mac Jones throws a bomb to

1199
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: an open Devantay Parker and throws it over the wrong shoulder.

1200
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a fifty fifty ball because wanted him

1201
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: to throw it. Thank you, Paul Perilla. I missed that.

1202
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: Um No, I just said that, like there's a lot

1203
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: going on for Mac. I think Mac has a lot

1204
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: of excuses. I do, lack of talent, lack of coaching,

1205
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: new scheme. Not when that happens, right when he sees

1206
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker and throws it, and then mister accuracy, because

1207
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: he's accurate, right, that's one of his strengths, throws it

1208
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: and it just tails over his head towards Minca Fitzpatrick.

1209
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: Maybe that was why, but I'm just saying it wasn't

1210
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: a fifty if that's why, if his strength is accuracy,

1211
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: and I don't think I think he had a terrible game.

1212
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: I think the offense I think terrible. Strong. But he

1213
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: did not. He did not wo it back, not great.

1214
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: He did not play well. That's what the EI in you,

1215
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: Michael tell you. I blame you for all my issues,

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00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,000
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1217
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Speaker 1: next two seasons. That'll be mine. It is. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: good Mike, and that's the way Patriots fans will take.

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Speaker 1: So Fred says he likes the vitriol. Fine, you're allowed

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have weak sauce. I don't necessarily have a

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Speaker 1: fans were excited about that. There's a lot of vitriol

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Speaker 1: That's all right, I don't want any vitriol. But Andy

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Speaker 1: you have returned from practice. What do you got for us? Well?

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Speaker 1: I had to pull up my my notes because this

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Speaker 1: was a busy day out there at Patriots practice today.

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Speaker 1: Two players missing from the fifty three man roster. No surprise,

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Speaker 1: you never know, but I would say that it would

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Speaker 1: be a surprise if they participated in full. That's Ugger

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Speaker 1: and Myers. Huh. Yeah. So, Paul, you mentioned McMillan when

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Speaker 1: that Daniel o'qually from that suspension was at practice and

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Speaker 1: dropped the ball. Nice. Sorry, Yeah, I'll take a lap

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Speaker 1: for that one. Yeah, couldn't help. So what were they

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Speaker 1: what So, Yeah, Tom Brady's in practice, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if anyone cares, I was kidding. Um okay, so they're

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Speaker 1: don't laugh? Business as usual business. I don't think there

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Speaker 1: I just think that it was no chatter, no dancing,

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Speaker 1: It's a tough task. This is not an easy game

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Speaker 1: win or lose, it's because of him. Did Bill say

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Speaker 1: anything about his red hoodie? He did not. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: That's why we gotta have what are we doing? What

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Speaker 1: are we doing? Questions? That was you know, that caused

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, Evan, but we talked

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Speaker 1: But the pro shop and phones at the pro shop

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01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: So you but maybe if if we've got an old

1460
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: logo on there, that that'll kind of fix things perhaps,

1461
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: But we'll get into that later. Okay, So mood was

1462
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: business as usual or you know getting you know what

1463
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: about media? Was there a lot of media? Was it

1464
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: a big crowd? Was it the same crowd? Was a

1465
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 1: big crowd? Actually, yeah, there's a lot of media. I

1466
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: think coming off the win Lamar Jackson coming to town,

1467
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: there maybe is a little bit more buzz around this

1468
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 1: game than two road games to start the year against

1469
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: Mitchell Drubisky in two. It's not exactly the same as

1470
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: Lamar in a red hot Raven's offense coming here to

1471
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: play the Patriots on Sunday. So I thought it was

1472
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: a pretty full contingent. Usually Wednesdays now that they have

1473
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: Bill and Mac Jones on Wednesdays, gets a little bit

1474
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: more busy down here because both those guys are talking

1475
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: on Wednesday and a lot of times, you know, the

1476
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,640
Speaker 1: media likes to grouse. Was there a theme to the

1477
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: grousing today? Any themes that you could detect from the

1478
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: media sometimes, like food or timing. I think, you know,

1479
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: maybe having Kyle Dugger out there when he clearly was

1480
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: not okay out there. You know, he's clearly not practice,

1481
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: but they wanted it to be there so that we

1482
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: reported that he was physically out practiced. There's a little

1483
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: bit of rumblings about that walking off the practice field. Okay,

1484
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: there you go. I like it. Well, some deaths, maybe peppers,

1485
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: maybe my boy and he came in immediately, made a

1486
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: couple of tackles on Sundays. Do you think something soon

1487
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: has to happen on on Collins if that was more

1488
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: than just a kid tires kind of thing, if you're

1489
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: going to play him this week, you would. But I

1490
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: don't think that that's a possibility, do you. I mean,

1491
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 1: I would doubt it, having done nothing all summer, But

1492
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: you never know, Like I said Richard Sherman last year

1493
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: signed Yeah, he was off the street and started basically

1494
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: started in the game against the Patriots. Um evan, now

1495
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: that you hear you know, I have a couple questions

1496
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: left over from the game. And I assume that you've

1497
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: done your all twenty two and looked at all that

1498
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: and multiple times. Yeah, yeah, that last drive, Okay, were

1499
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: they in the Shanahan offense or were they just running

1500
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: the ball? They were just running the ball, That's what

1501
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: I thought. Thank you very much. I think the coolest

1502
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: thing about everybody agrees with you. I don't know how

1503
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: we're arguing. Didn't he said he didn't know. I think

1504
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: the coolest part about that, and salth Palantonio didn't. Okay,

1505
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: so that's the one who started it. I us so

1506
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: one of the Steelers players I'm blanking on who it

1507
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: was said after the game in their post game locker

1508
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: room that Mac was basically running it at the line

1509
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and based off of the alignment of the defense,

1510
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: was checking into various plays to match with to match

1511
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: what the Steelers were doing. And as much as we

1512
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: want to give Matt credit for that, because he is

1513
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: a threebal player most of the time. I think the

1514
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 1: bigger thing that I came away from it a hole

1515
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: was the overall plan Like that, it felt like a

1516
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 1: team that had a plan on Sunday on off and

1517
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know in week one, and I mean, look

1518
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: at their running game down the stretch in week one.

1519
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 1: I know they didn't hand it off as much as

1520
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: they did in the first quarter, but it really faded

1521
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: in the final three quarters. There was no counter there

1522
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: was no adjustments, and it felt like that drive was

1523
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 1: really a stepping stone for them in the future. Where

1524
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 1: they came out, they ran a couple of power plays.

1525
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: The Steelers then started loading that side of the line

1526
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 1: of scrimmage to take an advantage of that and basically

1527
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: prevent the power plays. And they went to that pin

1528
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: poll sweep action on the final two plays of the

1529
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: game to the week side with David Andrews pulling cold

1530
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: strange pins them inside. Andrews comes and pulls through and

1531
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: they hit those two runs back to back to run

1532
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: out the clock, and those were sort of the adjustments

1533
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: and Belichick actually broke it down on the bellustrator was

1534
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: zoh this week those sequences where you have the Steelers

1535
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,879
Speaker 1: basically lining up towards the strong side of the formation

1536
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: with significant numbers towards the tight end side of the formation.

1537
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:03,560
Speaker 1: Expect those power gap runs downhill at that side, and

1538
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 1: then they check out of it. They get into this

1539
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: pin pole and now they're running weak side, and there's

1540
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: nobody there right its hat on a hat, and it's

1541
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: easy picking for Damian Harris. I thought he slid down

1542
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: on the first one. He probably could have scored if

1543
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: he stayed on his feet, but then he ended up game.

1544
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: That was the That was the reaction in the press box,

1545
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: like he had three more yards to get the first smart. Yeah, yeah,

1546
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: at first it seemed smart and when you realize how

1547
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: close he was, Yeah, when you realize he set up

1548
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: an all or nothing pay not smart, Not smart at all. Yeah.

1549
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: So I were they running the Shanahan offense, I would

1550
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: say no. I mean, Shanahan is not a power guy,

1551
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: like you know, pull the guard through up to the

1552
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: second level and and crease the defense. That's that's not

1553
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. The pin pole stuff is a little bit

1554
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: more Shanahan esque. But we're really getting into this is

1555
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: a whole thing. Chip Kelly Mark Helfrick type of world

1556
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: with pin pole. So I wouldn't even say that that's

1557
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: necessarily a Shanahan staple either. So I would say they

1558
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: were just running the ball. Do you think it's an

1559
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: app that people are saying like this is what we've

1560
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: been talking about, Like, is it app to call this

1561
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: what they're doing the Shanahan offense? No. I think there's

1562
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: elements of a couple of different playbooks that you're seeing.

1563
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: I would say it's three playbooks, and all of these once,

1564
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: I say, you're gonna be like, well, duh, right. The

1565
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: first one is the old Patriots playbook, because Josh McDaniels playbook,

1566
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: you know, Charlie Weiss's playbook. The second one, I would say,

1567
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: there are some Shanahan wrinkles in there, some more zone blocking,

1568
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: and maybe when we see more of the under center

1569
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: play action game, we'll see a little bit more of that.

1570
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: A third playbook is Alabama. I mean they've been shotgun.

1571
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,799
Speaker 1: Sixty four out of seventy one of Mac Jones's dropbacks

1572
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: have been in the shotgun. That's Alabama. Alabama ran under

1573
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: center with Mac when he was there maybe five times,

1574
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: Like you could count it on two hands. Probably the

1575
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: amount of times they were under center at Alabama. So

1576
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the shotgun passing game and

1577
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: this weekends the Steelers that that buzzword RPO. We saw

1578
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more of that against Pittsburgh, and that

1579
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: to me is straight out of the Crimson Tide playbook.

1580
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: So I think there's three different playbooks at play here

1581
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: that they're kind of melding together. But like I said,

1582
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: at the beginning, it felt like an offense that had

1583
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: been orchestrated that was a little bit more together, a

1584
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: little bit more tightened up than what we saw in

1585
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: week one, which was a really good positive. Real quick,

1586
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: I just want to defend Andy from what you said.

1587
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: He basically said exactly what Evan said about you know,

1588
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 1: they're not running zone. When you see guys pulling in

1589
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: the guards moving around like that. If everybody is in

1590
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: unison slamming down on the outside, that could be an

1591
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: indication that you're more in the zone stuff. But when

1592
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: there are guys like moving around pulling out leading blood,

1593
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: that's the old That's what the Patriots, that's how they

1594
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: run the book. No I'm saying that's thank you said

1595
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: that Andy was sort of arguing with you when yeah,

1596
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 1: he basically said, it's tough, said, I know you have

1597
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: validation now, so just so just so every again, just

1598
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: trust what you see. Yeah you should just but like

1599
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: I have faith in yourself. I'm but I'm not only

1600
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: need someone else to tell you that what you're seeing

1601
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: is what you saw. No, but like all these smart

1602
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: people are telling me one thing, and I just want

1603
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,719
Speaker 1: to make sure all these smart people just so everybody

1604
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: can get a feel of people on your shows, on

1605
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: your shows, South Palantonio, I mean, I can't see him

1606
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: walking around the press pot. Evan's arch nemesis, like Greg

1607
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: Barnard said, no, unequivocally, No, they're not running any They

1608
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: didn't run any zone running. I didn't. I didn't hear him. So,

1609
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: outside zone is a ninety degree step towards the sideline, right,

1610
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 1: So all the offensive linemen are going to take a

1611
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: step ninety degrees with their inside foot towards the sideline.

1612
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: Inside zone or outside foot, depending on who you are.

1613
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: Inside zone is forty five degrees right, So you're coming

1614
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: off the ball at a forty five degree angle. Now,

1615
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: the difficult part about inside zone is that it looks

1616
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: a lot like duo and duo is a gap scheme

1617
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: and inside zones zone scheme. So there are a lot

1618
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: of rules and different things that you have to dissect

1619
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: into play. Because the Patriots will also run duo, which

1620
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: is double teams, right, you know you'd call it duo,

1621
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 1: you can call it double whatever you want to call it.

1622
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 1: Just the guard and the tackle or the guard in

1623
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: the center's it's gonna have two double teams and you're

1624
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 1: just blowing people off the ball, right, So there's a

1625
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: little bit of nuance there, and you know the kind

1626
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: of gray area of which one's which, and I think

1627
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots run both of them, so that makes it

1628
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: even more confusing. But that's the general rule though. Yeah.

1629
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: My my thing with this whole Shannahan to me, the

1630
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: the picture of that is the old Denver offense, you know,

1631
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: where Gibbs was that offensive line coach, and they would

1632
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: get up out of the stance and like you said,

1633
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: they take that ninety degree step and they'd all be

1634
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: moving to the sideline and you had the running back

1635
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: whoever it was, going behind, and he would just pick

1636
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: his lane, pick his lane. It's it's not complicated. It's

1637
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: not complicated. It's easier. Yeah, yeah, it's to me, it's

1638
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: it's very it's apparent, and you see it, you know it.

1639
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: It's apparent, and we saw it all summer, but I

1640
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: didn't see it in this game, and people was telling

1641
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: me it was happening, and I was like, I don't

1642
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: think I can't. I can't account for the voices in year,

1643
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I've heard more people explain

1644
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: it exactly the way Evan just did right than anything else.

1645
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: You don't think people said, oh, they ran maybe like

1646
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: one or two that they saw specifically that last draw. Yeah,

1647
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: like maybe one or two. They made eleventh straight place

1648
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: like maybe one of them was with the back to

1649
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: back place to end the game were technically outside zone

1650
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: to the weak side of the formation with the pin

1651
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: poll right, so it's technically outside zone. Was a hybrid.

1652
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: But yeah, I pinpole tag gets into I just want

1653
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 1: to apologize to the people that were listening to the

1654
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: show that people like completely though they'd like the detail,

1655
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: the talk. You know, you can sit out I am.

1656
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: We gotta get to the bar for what it's worth.

1657
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus charted them with eighteen gap runs to

1658
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: five zone runs in Sunday's games, so definitely gap have

1659
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: game plan. You know, they were pulling guards, they were

1660
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 1: getting off the ball. This was not nod zone, ye,

1661
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,560
Speaker 1: any other impression because you know you're not on the

1662
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,560
Speaker 1: post game show. In the post game show, they do

1663
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: the good, the bad, and the injured. What were you good?

1664
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: Give me a couple of goods and a couple of

1665
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: bads from the game in your opinion. Sure, so I

1666
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 1: broke down the offense a little bit already, so I'll

1667
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: go to the defense side of the ball. They have

1668
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 1: been in the first two games. And I know everybody's

1669
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: gonna say, it's only been two games, let's see what happens,

1670
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 1: but they've been almost eighty percent zone coverage in the

1671
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: back end in the first two games. And this to me,

1672
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: I was just watching the Ravens defense against the Jets

1673
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins. You turn on every single tape in

1674
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 1: the NFL right now, and everybody's running the same defense

1675
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 1: because everybody's so petrified of the explosive players in the

1676
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: passing game. The rules favor it. There's receivers everywhere. These

1677
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 1: quarterbacks can make the throws, so everybody's playing too deep

1678
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: safety shells and then they're rotating it after the snap

1679
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: or they're staying in too high, and the Patriots are

1680
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. I mean, they're mimicking what everybody

1681
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: else is doing. On defense, they have become and I

1682
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: was joking with Mike earlier that if I asked them

1683
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: about it, they tell me they still play man right,

1684
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: that they play plenty of man, and that they like

1685
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: man to man. But they are his zone defense. They've

1686
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: been his zone defense since maybe Week seven of last year,

1687
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: after that Cowboys game, after Ceedee Lamb walked off on them.

1688
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: They've been a zone defense ever since then. And so

1689
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 1: this is a zone defense, and I think it's a

1690
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: cool zone defense, and that different guys in this secondary

1691
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 1: might not be individually Stefan Gilmour o JC Jackson or

1692
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: at that level of talent in terms of man coverage ability,

1693
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: but they are versatile and they can spin the dial

1694
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 1: on quarterback. So, for example, on Jalen Mills's interception, he's

1695
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: playing a safety alignment. He's playing the deep half of

1696
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: the field and cover two. As you know, he's a corner,

1697
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: but he's playing as a safety alignment. There's times where

1698
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger or Adrian Phillips. They'll play the deep third

1699
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: and cover three, or they'll play the flat, which is

1700
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: typically a cornerback spot, but their safeties so they have

1701
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: that ability on the back end to really rotate it

1702
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: and really make it difficult for quarterbacks to have to

1703
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: react post snap to what coverage shell they are in.

1704
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: It worked for the most part in the first two weeks.

1705
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: I think some of the things underneath the defense, they're

1706
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to clean up rally to the football quicker

1707
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: and limit some of those first and ten becomes second

1708
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: and three because they checked it down and the back

1709
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 1: Naji Harris picks up seven eight yards on first down.

1710
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: You got to tighten it up there. But overall, this

1711
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: is what the league is doing. So I think some

1712
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: fans watch it and they get annoyed by the ben

1713
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: don't break like that's the typical way people call it.

1714
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: But this is what everybody's doing because it's just really

1715
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: difficult to keep teams that have all these weapons, and

1716
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna see it on Sunday with Lamar and keep

1717
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: them at Bay week one against Miami, and you saw

1718
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 1: what Miami did in Week two against the Baltimore defense.

1719
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: You have to limit explosives, and yeah, it's gonna lead

1720
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: to eleven play drives at end and field goals, and

1721
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the NFL until the rules start to

1722
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: favor defense a little bit heavier, until we go back

1723
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: into being a little bit more even on those sides

1724
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: of the ball. That's the only way to play defense now,

1725
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of boring because every single defense

1726
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: in the league is playing the same defense. I had

1727
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: Mac on the down list. Would you agree or disagree? Yeah,

1728
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: there's certain things about Mac that I did like from

1729
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: Sunday's game. I like the fact that and I wrote

1730
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: about this after further review. I like the fact that

1731
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: he's attacking man coverage when he sees single coverage now.

1732
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: I think last year a lot of the time, when

1733
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: he sees like a tighter window, he's checking it down

1734
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: or he's throwing the ball away and he's not really

1735
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: testing it. Nelson Aglare's touchdown is a great example of it.

1736
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: But some of those crossing routes that he threw over

1737
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: the middle of the field to Jacobe and Aglare as well,

1738
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: I think we're good examples too, where there is guys

1739
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: that are in a step or half a step of

1740
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: the receiver, but he's having that willingness and that trust

1741
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 1: in his arm to let it go and fit the

1742
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: ball into some tighter windows against man coverage. I like

1743
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,719
Speaker 1: that he's being more aggressive in that sense, the decision making,

1744
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: the ability to see the field. I don't know what's

1745
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: going on with that. I don't know if it's a

1746
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: coaching thing. I don't know if it's the new system

1747
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: and it's in his head a little bit. But he

1748
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: has definitely missed more reads than I think we would

1749
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: see in a game from him last year. The Jacoby

1750
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 1: one in the flat, I know everybody's kind of harped

1751
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: on that one, as well as a little Jordan Humphrey

1752
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: play action throw. Those ones are are tough for me

1753
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 1: because I think, especially on the Jacoby, that's a pick

1754
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: play that they're trying to set up to Johnny Smith,

1755
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: and it's almost a predetermined throw, like it's kind of

1756
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: a timing throw where they're trying to clear it out

1757
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: and pick it and then he just is gonna hit

1758
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: him right at the sticks and that ball. If you're

1759
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: gonna make that happen, that ball's got to be out right,

1760
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: like you're not going to sit there and read it out. Ideally,

1761
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 1: if he like waits like half a beat, then maybe

1762
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: he sees Jacoby in the flat. But that's almost a

1763
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 1: predetermined throw on a third and short. So it's a

1764
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,799
Speaker 1: tough one for me. But that some of the royals

1765
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: in some of the reads that he made I thought

1766
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: were worrisome. The DeVante Parker make a Fitzpatrick interception, I

1767
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,560
Speaker 1: think that's one of them where you do start to

1768
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: worry a little bit about the arm strength and the

1769
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: physical abilities of it, because that ball needs to be

1770
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: on the line right like that ball can't sail that

1771
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:19,759
Speaker 1: ball if you're going to try to hit the seam

1772
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 1: and cover two, you got to have some smoke on

1773
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: the football. And he gets the pressure off the left

1774
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: side and the ball sails on him a little bit.

1775
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 1: So I think that those are the two things that

1776
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: really stood out to me was seeing the field a

1777
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: little bit better and maybe knowing your limitations a little bit.

1778
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: With the Parker interception, I think, you know, that's probably

1779
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: a throw that he's not ready to make yet real quick.

1780
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: Did Marcus Cannon have a black jersey on today at practice?

1781
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: He did? I think that's interesting. Two for it, isn't

1782
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 1: that the old practice players of the week where the

1783
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: black jersey. Yeah, I just see a clip that the

1784
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: camera guys posted of Bill talking with Cannon, you know,

1785
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: heading out to practice, and it looks like it was

1786
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: a black jersey. But I didn't know. Sometimes you can

1787
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 1: be Yeah, I don't know if it's that or maybe

1788
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: Scout team. Yeah, I mean, it could be for the Ravens,

1789
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: it could be. It could be something like that too.

1790
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: Usually I know they break out the yellow stuff for

1791
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: those impression. I just wondering if he was, you know,

1792
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: up to speed right away and they're happy and that. Like,

1793
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: I still think that the Haran thing Um at least

1794
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: um tangently touches Marcus Cannon, like they have to be

1795
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: confident that Cannon can be part of the mix if

1796
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 1: they need depth attack. It feels like no Conna. It

1797
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 1: just feels like a one for one swath to me, like,

1798
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: do you like an old Marcus Cannon a young Justin

1799
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: Horn based on but if Cannon was done? Oh yeah,

1800
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: which thirty four year guys coming off back surgery are

1801
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: often done. I think you know, maybe Bill looks at

1802
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: its design, he could just an r on because neither

1803
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 1: one of those guys is reliable. I need them both. Yeah,

1804
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: and maybe Now he looks at it and says as well,

1805
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm gonna have two unreliable guys, Cannon

1806
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: will be one of them. I think. I don't know,

1807
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: it's a bad sign with my My best memory of

1808
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: Justin her on the summer was him chasing down dugger

1809
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: on the on the pick six. The dugger like whoa

1810
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: Justin Runa. But otherwise, I mean, like you said earlier,

1811
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: Paul was not a great camp for him. No, you know,

1812
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 1: it felt like Yanni could use it outplayed him by

1813
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: the end of camp, just the way that I had

1814
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: seen it. I would say that. But I think the

1815
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: other shoot a potentially drop here in terms of depth.

1816
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Mike on Win, who has been their best offensive lineman

1817
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: through two games and worse comes to worse, you know,

1818
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: as hits the fan, him going back to right tackle

1819
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: is not necessarily out of the picture either, right, So

1820
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: so I think that you know, if you lose a tackle,

1821
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: whether it's Wayne or it's Brown, you know, if it's

1822
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 1: Win then maybe or if it's Brown, excusing me, maybe

1823
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Win flips back to left on when who goes to

1824
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: right and then they put a guy like James Ferrings

1825
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 1: in that guard or Chasing Hines in that guard. So

1826
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: Mike on when who has been lights out through two games.

1827
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 1: Another line struggled a little bit in Miami and in

1828
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: times of past protection against Pittsburgh as well, but he's

1829
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: been extremely good. So my guess is is they are

1830
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: feeling really good about if they have to kick him

1831
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: back out to right tackle, he'd be off okay, like

1832
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: keeping a right guard like I've been waiting to get

1833
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: to his call his position clearly, Bill watch that too,

1834
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: because last year, like we talked about this all offseason,

1835
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: they had all of those games that Trent Brown didn't play,

1836
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 1: and I think when you played three at tackle, he

1837
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: could have played eight. Yeah, you know, but I think

1838
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: they don't love him there. I know all the numbers

1839
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: would tell you he's a better tackle, he's a better

1840
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 1: right tackle. I don't know. I don't. I don't necessarily

1841
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 1: buy into him being a better tackle either. I think

1842
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: that when you watch them play with him at tackle,

1843
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: there's some things that they did to help him out

1844
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 1: at tackle, Sliding the protection, keeping the tight end of

1845
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: the back end chip not necessarily running some of their

1846
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: toss players or outside plays to that side and going

1847
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: to the left where Wayne was at the time with

1848
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more athleticism and foot speed. I think

1849
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: that there are certain elements to that as well at guard,

1850
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 1: where left side typically for the Patriots is a more

1851
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: athletic side of the line. And I think you've seen

1852
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: at with cold Strange over there versus with On when

1853
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: you over there and now and when he was at

1854
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 1: the power spot at that right guard spot, and he

1855
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: looks great playing guard Laird last year he was shaky

1856
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: at left guard, So I think that there's a lot

1857
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: to be said about how he's playing at guard now,

1858
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 1: especially at that right guard spot. That I wouldn't touch

1859
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:20,560
Speaker 1: him if I didn't have to drilling down on that

1860
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: guard talk right now. But I do think with the

1861
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: Harran trade it's worth discussing. And those are all you know,

1862
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 1: and listen where we just talked about the Patriots. We

1863
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: don't get to have a Celtics minute like Felger and

1864
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: Matt right, you know, we're just talking about the Patriots.

1865
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: And I think the Harran move well opens the door

1866
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: for a when you to tackle or cannon off the

1867
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: practice squad. That stuff is all in play. Williams, what's

1868
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: going on with that? With surgery? Real quick? We will minute,

1869
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: We will give you a Celtics mind. When we drafted him,

1870
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: we knew that the knee things were going to be

1871
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: an issue. Um, just meniscus clean up. Not worried? Are

1872
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: you worried? Especially if they bring in LaMarcus Aldridge to

1873
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 1: fill some talk about this is where for most people

1874
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: that talk about the NBA LaMarcus Aldridge not a deep dive,

1875
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: but okay, you do you Mike? At four to two,

1876
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: he decides, I saw enough. I knew they were the

1877
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 1: last time played in an NBA game. It's been a

1878
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,759
Speaker 1: little it's been a minute. It's been in a minute.

1879
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: The kids basketball. But I love that doesn't sound. That's

1880
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: so exciting. I have a sound that was like your

1881
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: best lie, I don't okay, So not concerned about the

1882
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: injury long term, Totally totally with you. I mean, any boy,

1883
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen any um. Disappointment that he wouldn't have

1884
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: maybe done this like three weeks earlier. That's the one

1885
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: question I had is when the season ended, why not

1886
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: just go and I get it, like you know, he

1887
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: had the surgery, he came back, he was in and

1888
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs, he sucked it up for the finals.

1889
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't want like the next day to go

1890
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: out and have surgery. You know what, can yeah a

1891
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: lot of week? Can I get a couple of weeks off?

1892
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you just have one like in season as well? Yeah,

1893
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:05,560
Speaker 1: like can you know, can I go dout of the

1894
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 1: Bahamas or something? You know, can I just unwind? Do

1895
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,600
Speaker 1: I have to? But there still was more time. And

1896
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: also if you got it right away, then it could

1897
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: look like, oh did the Celtics not tell him he

1898
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: couldn't get it? I didn't even I didn't even go

1899
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: to that, do you know? Huh? It's such a sports

1900
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 1: problem of like you got surgery too late. Like where

1901
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: else in life would you ever criticize somebody for like

1902
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: waiting too long to get surgery, Like it's only if

1903
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: someone needed to come back for something, right, you know,

1904
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 1: like when I had surgery on my achilles, I coincided

1905
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 1: it with March madness, so I could sit my ass

1906
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: on the couch and watch every minute without having to

1907
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: get yelled at. Brilliant, brilliant chess. But but you also

1908
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 1: got married in the middle of the NFL playoffs, So yeah,

1909
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: but the Patriots weren't involved in them again chess not checkers.

1910
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: Two thousand two Patriots didn't. The only time Brady played

1911
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: a full season that they didn't make the playoffs. Yeah,

1912
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: it was the year I got married. Thank you. What

1913
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,919
Speaker 1: did you know? What are the Sharks? We got engaged

1914
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 1: when they were like four and five in oh one.

1915
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: Never once did we think, oh, this team's got super

1916
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 1: Bowl written all over it, and all of a sudden

1917
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 1: they never lost again, and then we were like, oh,

1918
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a couple of empty tables at the wedding.

1919
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 1: My closest thing to that was we went to a

1920
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: tasting when we were checking out places right before the

1921
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: Denver two thousand and five playoff game, when we were

1922
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: up in Carpenteria, which is near Santa Barbara, and I

1923
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 1: made Lane leave early and miss out on the tasting

1924
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 1: of all the desserts so that I could get home

1925
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: to watch that two thousand and five which was the

1926
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 1: first time they ever lost in the playoffs as well,

1927
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 1: so that that's one for me that's not too bad.

1928
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 1: And he wasn't still here because that game is famous

1929
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: for him because he had to go to his sister

1930
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 1: in law's wedding, right, so he didn't go and Brian

1931
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: came out of retirement to do that game. He came

1932
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 1: with us with Fred and I and to this day

1933
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: and he's never seen a play of that, not even

1934
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: they lost. There was no say, there was no reason

1935
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,600
Speaker 1: to watch. He never started like we would like have

1936
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 1: shows and us. He'd be like, can't comment, didn't see it,

1937
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: that's great. Well then he just stuck with it. It

1938
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: just refused it. Oh yeah, no, I mean obviously you

1939
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: saw the highlights, but he never he never watched the game. Yeah, Watson, Yeah,

1940
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: that was the first time where it was like they

1941
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 1: just don't got it. Today, there was two plays that

1942
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: I said, okay, this is different. Troy Brown, who never

1943
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: made a mistake, had a ball off his face on

1944
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 1: a punt on a fair catch. He mishandled a fair

1945
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: catch and lost the ball. And then Adam at the

1946
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 1: end of the game, they were down whatever two scores

1947
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: and he had they had a chance to kick a

1948
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: field goal to get within one and he missed it.

1949
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: You know, Adam never missed his important field goals, and

1950
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,680
Speaker 1: he missed it. Not our day yet a little bit.

1951
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: So what I missed I had a we had quick

1952
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 1: Celtics minute, but we were talking about when you being

1953
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 1: part of that harn mixed as well. You know, if

1954
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: you need depth, you know, Evan brought up could you

1955
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: move a when you to write tackle um and then

1956
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 1: just plug in like Ferrens or even the rookie Chase

1957
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: and Hines at at guard Um. Evan says that when

1958
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: you has been lights out in the best lineman that

1959
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: they've had in the two games. Oh really, now with

1960
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 1: that according to you, with both both which know, that's

1961
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 1: how I confirm my priors. You know, I think something,

1962
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 1: I just check with the dark you go, you go

1963
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: look at PFF and then PFF says the same thing,

1964
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, says Shocker. I'm going to

1965
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 1: set up a pay per view between Dart and two

1966
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: Friday night. They're gonna we're not gonna give you any

1967
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: traditional camera looks to night. They're all gonna be overhead. Right.

1968
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: Is there real drama here or is this just the show?

1969
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: It's just you know, when you're when you're in the

1970
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 1: same niche, it's a little bit yeah right, he's yeah, yeah,

1971
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: it's a mutual respect, though it's a muture. All right,

1972
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 1: let's get back to the phones paths five hundred. We

1973
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: got some people hanging on there. We'll start with Eldred

1974
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Hey, fella, lady, how

1975
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 1: y'all doing? Yeah, but so long, I forgot what I

1976
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: was going. Did you enjoy hearing from Andy? Yeah? Heard

1977
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 1: Andy ill at him, but I know he had to leave.

1978
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 1: Small bit. But me and Andy, I will us to

1979
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: fight a little bit. I don't on the phone. I'm

1980
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 1: on the radio also too. So Deuce, you wasn't the

1981
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 1: first one. You got the second between sucking and third

1982
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 1: back in the day till we started agreeing on things.

1983
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 1: But h I was listening to y'all earlier. You know, Deuce,

1984
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: you kept saying, you look, you're waiting for Mac to

1985
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: you don take that next step, Bride. I met. I

1986
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: saw some of the game, and I feel like he

1987
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: was off a lot, you know, not reading or whatever.

1988
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: I want to take those chump plays. But um, and

1989
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: did I hear you bring up the other teams in

1990
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 1: the offense, like Mammy's scoring them forties and then Raiders

1991
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: But they lost the game. And then even the Jets

1992
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: coming up with score. But both of those guys, like

1993
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: I said, begin and I'm not jumping on Matt, Patricia

1994
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 1: and Judd, but they got OLDC, real old C. And

1995
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 1: you're like the Cowboys, not the cowboys. But uh, Buffalo,

1996
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: they got a quarterback. He used to be a quarterback first,

1997
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 1: but do this first year called him plays and he

1998
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 1: got Buffalo running like like a table throwing the running

1999
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 1: the plays. So it's old you know. It's knowing the

2000
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: offense and the onion onneion about it. So that's what

2001
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 1: I keep thinking to be whole back. But I want

2002
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: just the field in the first place. But we got Matt,

2003
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 1: so well, you still might getting my chans topic. It

2004
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 1: wasn't never to what you said, do I said, you

2005
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 1: still might get justin field. Let you see justin field.

2006
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: If we followed, if we followed this year in the

2007
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: top five, I should be j Stroup. Okay, I can't.

2008
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: Can we stop it? Stop it with picking in the area. Yeah,

2009
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 1: stop it all right, Okay, thanks Eldred, all right, you too?

2010
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: Oh man, I like I got an email before the

2011
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: show someone you should check out this quarterback from Holy Cross.

2012
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, Sluca. I'm not even gonna read it.

2013
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: Come on, you know, I'm gonna go scout him in

2014
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. But they're picking in the top five,

2015
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: top ten of the draft. Thing. Whenever I come in

2016
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, me it might do a little debrief right

2017
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: over at the desks and we give out our takes

2018
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 1: that we've been sitting on for two days, and we

2019
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 1: went through the schedule because I think our both of

2020
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: our takeaways was Okay, they're not gonna lose to Mitch Drubisky,

2021
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: right like they We'll see about Lamar, We'll see about

2022
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in two weeks in Green Bay. But they're

2023
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,600
Speaker 1: not gonna lose to the Mitchell Drubisky's the world. And

2024
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: when you start to go through their schedule, especially that

2025
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 1: middle stretch where they have Jared Goff and Jacobe Brissette

2026
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: and whoever the Jets trot out there and some of

2027
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, like they're gonna backdoor in a six or

2028
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: seven wins, right Like, I mean, they're not going to

2029
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 1: just sit there and lose to Joe Flacco or Zach

2030
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 1: Wilson and the Jets. They're not going to I'm not

2031
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: ready to say that anymore. The way, I'm not telling

2032
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 1: you they're gonna lose all of those games. But I

2033
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 1: originally I had them all wins. I do not have

2034
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 1: them all wins. Now I would say all wins, but

2035
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 1: I would be pretty surprised if they get torch defensively

2036
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 1: by any of those quarterbacks, as long as they stay healthy. Obviously,

2037
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 1: chic to me, you can't lose that game. And I

2038
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: don't see them losing to the Jets at home. I

2039
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,679
Speaker 1: don't think you can lose that game. But the others,

2040
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's certainly intriguing with the

2041
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: point totals that some of these teams are pointing up,

2042
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: where the Patriots just can't seem to sniff thirty, much

2043
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 1: less twenty. And what if Detroit, Okay, maybe they don't

2044
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 1: get thirty because Bill, yeah, you know, does a good

2045
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: job against Goff. What if they get into the high

2046
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: twenties and as bad as True and as bad as

2047
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 1: True Whisky was probably the worst quarterback they'll face this year.

2048
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: It was a three point game, you know it was

2049
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 1: it was Harry like you know, like that wasn't because

2050
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: of Truebisky? Wow? Was it? In spite of him. I mean, no,

2051
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 1: it's because the offense good. You know. Yeah, let's go

2052
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 1: to Sean and Vancouver. What's up Sean, Hey, I'm friend.

2053
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 1: They got two things. One, I want to see the

2054
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,679
Speaker 1: offensive line play a little better in terms of cutting

2055
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: down on penalties. To sure, they did great blocking and

2056
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 1: given protection, but there were two penalties called and there

2057
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 1: should have been a third one on Brown in the

2058
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 1: two minutes left in the first half. He definitely jumped

2059
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: on that and they didn't call it. The other thing,

2060
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 1: but you're correct, the Patriots don't have the advantage at

2061
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 1: home anymore. It doesn't matter if it's home or on

2062
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 1: the road. Like last year they were six and oh

2063
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 1: on the road until mid December. So their their record

2064
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: at home, and it's like you said, like you thought,

2065
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 1: it's it's not very good like over the past two

2066
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: years or eight and nine. So that's that's when I

2067
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: agree with you on that for sure. Yeah, it used

2068
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 1: to be Patriots had a home game, but that was

2069
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: that's not that way any Brady. Yeah, I mean, Brady,

2070
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean I was just lining up the teams too

2071
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 1: that they were playing in those games, and you know,

2072
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 1: perhaps they were playing better teams at home than they

2073
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 1: were when they were going on the road. And you know,

2074
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I mean, it's a whole home

2075
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: opener against a really good team. So well that last

2076
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 1: year for sure, like you know, you played Dallas in

2077
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 1: Tampa at home, there was a tougher games than you know,

2078
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 1: the games that you had on the road earlier in

2079
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 1: the year against you know, the Jets in Houston. Yeah,

2080
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: thanks Sean. Let's go to Christian in LA. What's up Christian? Hey, guys,

2081
01:42:54,280 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 1: what are you doing today? Good? Are you landing or what? So?

2082
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 1: Question for you guys. Have had anybody seen working out

2083
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: or is he working out? And also what's going out

2084
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: with pre Strong? It seems like these are two two

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01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 1: players that could add some speed and some pop to

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01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 1: our offense. But I know they're hurt and is there

2087
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 1: any news on them? No, no news, no news. Her

2088
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: Strong's not hurt. Player in the game Sunday he returned

2089
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: to kick he wasn't on the right. Yeah, I don't know.

2090
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 1: I mean we were talking about me like working those

2091
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 1: guys more into the offensively, do have this noticed speed

2092
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 1: that we all thought in the preseason? You have you

2093
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 1: guys held any planned to try to get those guys

2094
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 1: when he gets back more involved. Yeah, I think when

2095
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: Thornton's ready, you know, but that's gonna be at least

2096
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 1: another month, right probably why That's what me and everyone

2097
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 1: talking about that up stair weeks of three weeks he's got,

2098
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 1: he's got to be on IR for two more games,

2099
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 1: and then when when he got hurt, they were optimistic

2100
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 1: that he maybe could come back after the fourth game

2101
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 1: after sitting out Green Bay, and come back for Week five.

2102
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: We'll see, though, the Patriots, especially with younger players rookies,

2103
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll push it for him to

2104
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: be back out there right away, but I think I'm

2105
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 1: cautiously excited about the way they use Nelson Aglo in

2106
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 1: that game with I posted his route char a lot

2107
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:21,640
Speaker 1: of crossers, vertical routes, letting him have opportunities to use

2108
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: his speed. And the next step to that, I think

2109
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 1: is when Taekwon comes back. Now you have Taikwon and

2110
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: Nelson Aglore out there at the same time, and hopefully

2111
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: that can actually bring some real vertical and horizontal stretch

2112
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,679
Speaker 1: to your your offense, which they really haven't had since

2113
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe seventeen with Brandon Cooks like it's

2114
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 1: been a long time since they've had that, so intrigued

2115
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 1: by what they did with Aglare and hopefully that next

2116
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: step will be pairing him with Tae Kwon. And you

2117
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 1: look at their first down package with with LJ and

2118
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker and a tight end out there, it's still

2119
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 1: really slow. So if we can get some speed on

2120
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 1: the field with Taekwon coming back, I'll be excited about

2121
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: how do you who do you pull snaps from? Though,

2122
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, like when he comes back, I mean, feelings

2123
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 1: are going to get hurt somebody client, Like it's probably

2124
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: not gonna be him, realistically, like it's unfortunately going to

2125
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 1: be probably Kendrick and it should be Parker though right

2126
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 1: like as of right now, and when Taekwon comes back

2127
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 1: to me, if he's not one hundred and ten percent

2128
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 1: and you don't want to push it with the shoulder,

2129
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,719
Speaker 1: I would just be okay with him running windsprints outside,

2130
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 1: Like just put him on the field and let him

2131
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 1: stretch the defense and run through coverage because DeVante Parker

2132
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: is not doing it, like he's not putting any fear

2133
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 1: into anybody, but even just Taekwon going out there and

2134
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 1: running four two by people. Maybe that would at least

2135
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 1: give them some stretch and then you can open up

2136
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: things from there. So yeah, I would. I would love

2137
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 1: to see Tai Kwon immediately involved. I don't know if

2138
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 1: he will be it. Come goes back to Nikkil Harry

2139
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen when he was on IR to start

2140
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:02,560
Speaker 1: the season. They bring him back, and I think it

2141
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 1: took a game or two before they even had him

2142
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 1: out there at any type of role. So I do

2143
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 1: the New York thing and say that is there a

2144
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 1: budding issue in that wide receiver room? Like if Parker

2145
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,879
Speaker 1: continues to play and Borne continues to not get any attention.

2146
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 1: Clearly the quarterback loves Born. Every time he goes in

2147
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 1: the game, he throws it to him. Yeah right, I

2148
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: mean he's played twenty six snaps and been targeted five times. Yeah,

2149
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 1: something like that. You know, it's only a game more

2150
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 1: complicated from this point too. You know, Parker plays every

2151
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 1: snap and he's been targeted four times. You know, I'm like,

2152
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 1: but it's like, you got to defer to Mac. I

2153
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,120
Speaker 1: feel like, like, you know, if Max throwing it to

2154
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 1: a MA likes this guy, this is my point to

2155
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: him you know, I don't know New York. This would

2156
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 1: be huge. Yeah, like like your boy the Urine Stream

2157
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: would be tossing bombs and the Wide used to have

2158
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: his his blog was the jet Stream and Fred used

2159
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 1: to call it the year. We're very mean Here on

2160
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 1: Neil and New Brunswick. After watching the Patriots and then

2161
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 1: watching the Bills and Eagles games Monday, I wanted to

2162
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 1: send a real negative email, but we won and we

2163
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 1: should enjoy the win. Here is what I where I

2164
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 1: see this team is stuck. I think the issue I

2165
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 1: see is in today's NFL, you can compete if you

2166
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 1: have an elite quarterback and good weapons. You can also

2167
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 1: compete if you have a good quarterback in elite weapons.

2168
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 1: These are general examples. Don't tear them to shreds. The

2169
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 1: Patriots right now are stuck in good and good. Nothing

2170
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 1: on our team is terrible, but nothing is elite. Something

2171
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 1: has to change or we're forever stuck in eight nine

2172
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 1: and eight territory. My problem is I don't trust our

2173
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 1: GM to go get elite weapons. And he seems to

2174
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 1: like Mac holding out hope for Thornton. Yeah, I mean

2175
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 1: I think that's I don't argue with that, you know, Yeah,

2176
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's do hold out hope for

2177
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 1: Thornton because I think we all anybody who watched practice

2178
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: this summer was intrigued by him and how quickly he

2179
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 1: seemed to be picking it up, and you know, just

2180
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: the speed translated. He just no matter what Drillly was doing,

2181
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 1: he looks quick. You know, I was. I was more

2182
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: impressed with his hands. I thought he showed really good

2183
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:14,600
Speaker 1: hands and good good yeah, good strong hands you know,

2184
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 1: to make not just easy catches, but you know, like

2185
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: Evan said, like snayering the ball, tracking it over his

2186
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 1: shoulder effectively. UM. As an example, the Parker bomb the

2187
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 1: other day was over the wrong shoulder. Now, I'm not

2188
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,679
Speaker 1: suggesting that Parker should have caught that ball, because he shouldn't.

2189
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,680
Speaker 1: It was way off, but I saw it and make

2190
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: catches on balls like that in training camp not quite

2191
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: that far off. But to Evan's point, tracking the ball

2192
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 1: effectively over the wrong shoulder is not easy, and he

2193
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 1: did that several times in camp, especially with the helmet on.

2194
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 1: That was just my impress'd you put the helmet on,

2195
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,640
Speaker 1: the helmet on him, like screw, this deuce is in

2196
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 1: a bad place. When the helmet goes on. Evan, I

2197
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 1: don't know what we can we relax about Buffalo. Please,

2198
01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: it's been two games, but we've all it's actually been

2199
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 1: three years. But it hasn't been three years. It's been

2200
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 1: two games. And on top of it being just two games,

2201
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 1: you know how many times I've we have seen, especially offense,

2202
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 1: come out in September and look unstoppable. Andy Reid is

2203
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: like notorious for this. Usually when that happens, the teams

2204
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 1: are perfect. I don't even think they've played well yet.

2205
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: I think they'll leaven all kinds of points on the field.

2206
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 1: I just think that let's let's pump the brakes on

2207
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 1: the seven Patriots comps for sure, the brakes and see it.

2208
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's been three years since you've even

2209
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:38,719
Speaker 1: gotten a new way. I'm not setting the Patriots are close.

2210
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the Bills aren't a super Bowl

2211
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 1: favorite right now. I'm just saying the seventeen and no

2212
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: talk the seven Patriot talk like, let's let's relax. They

2213
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: look pretty good. I don't think, I don't think. I

2214
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 1: don't think the goal was the seventeen the two thousand

2215
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:54,640
Speaker 1: and seven Patriots, let's just put it that way. I

2216
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: don't think they want to do that. Well, they want

2217
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 1: to win a super and they are I mean they

2218
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 1: right now that there you know, it's them in Kansas

2219
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 1: City in the end, if they wanted to be the

2220
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 1: seven Patriots, Josh Allen would have played the fourth quarter

2221
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 1: the other night and they would have put sixty on

2222
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 1: the board. They don't have any interest in setting records

2223
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:14,559
Speaker 1: and talk to me and being shining. No, it's it's fair.

2224
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 1: But like you have to admit, right now, they look

2225
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 1: pretty damn they look fantastic and they've been red hot

2226
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 1: basically since well, since the Wind game, since yeah, since

2227
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 1: the Win game, since the Isaiah McKenzie game, they've been unbelievable.

2228
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's been unbelievable as well. I think that you know,

2229
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: the emailer mentioned the situation there with Dorsey. Basically it's

2230
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 1: the same offense, right' it's it might as well be

2231
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 1: Brian because that's the huge advantage, right. So, the way

2232
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 1: that they transitioned was so smooth because of the fact

2233
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 1: that they didn't change anything. Basically, it's the same thing

2234
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 1: that Brady got the luxury of, even though he had

2235
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 1: multiple offensive coordinators, he only had one system that's right, Yeah, yeah,

2236
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 1: And they just have a team of the look of

2237
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: a team where everybody knows what they're doing and they're

2238
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 1: all buying in and no matter it feels like, no

2239
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: matter who they're gonna slip in there, they're gonna I'm

2240
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: not telling you they're gonna win anything, because injuries can

2241
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 1: change all of that stuff. And the way that Josh

2242
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,640
Speaker 1: Allen plays leaves him open to an injury. There's no

2243
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 1: question about it if they stay relatively healthy, because they

2244
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: already have a bunch of guys that are good that

2245
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 1: haven't played. Davis White hasn't played yet, Gabe Davis missed

2246
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 1: the game the other night. They're already missing players. Another

2247
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 1: cornerback who um is that? Dane Jackson looks like the

2248
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 1: avoided major injury with that was really scary. Um got

2249
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 1: hit with his own guy, Edmonds. You lose four or

2250
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,719
Speaker 1: five guys and that's gonna hurt you. But with that team,

2251
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 1: they have the depth to overcome that. They don't have

2252
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,679
Speaker 1: the depth to overcome if it's Josh Allen, they would

2253
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 1: be significantly hindered. If it's Steph Diggs that you know

2254
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 1: He's the I think, the driving force behind everything else

2255
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 1: that happens due so like every I mean, like Tavan's point,

2256
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: you got a couple of injuries in the middle of

2257
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:55,680
Speaker 1: the year, and all of a sudden you stagnate, you

2258
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 1: lose a couple of games, and you know, and the

2259
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 1: outlook changes. But if they're healthy, they're the best team

2260
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 1: in the league. They had the best roster, the best

2261
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: rosy and their defense. I did not believe at all

2262
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,719
Speaker 1: in last year. I know what they finished. They finished

2263
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 1: ranked one. I think they were a bad deep not

2264
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 1: only I don't think they were a great defense. I

2265
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 1: don't even think they were good, especially after White got hurt.

2266
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,600
Speaker 1: They're different now with Von von Miller makes them a

2267
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 1: different team up front. They rotate all those defensive linemen.

2268
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: I thought Ed Oliver was great in the first game.

2269
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: Another guy who got hurt didn't play the other night.

2270
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 1: No difference. Um Derrick Henry kills that team, kills that

2271
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: team the other night. They they had all kinds of

2272
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 1: guys around him. But again, Pointer and Hyde, very important guys.

2273
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 1: They lose, they lose one of those guys obviously, Josh

2274
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 1: Allen Diggs. Yeah, you're looking at a different story, even

2275
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 1: Matt Milano, I think is really important. Joe writes in

2276
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't think y'all mentioned how Lil Jordan played more

2277
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 1: and had a play that Mac didn't see him. What

2278
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on him anymore? Does this push Born

2279
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 1: back further as a receiver? No specials, they ran the book.

2280
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 1: He's more of a blogger. He's kind of the Nikkeil

2281
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 1: Harry he got. He got twelve of his snaps in

2282
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 1: the last twelve plays of the game, and that sort

2283
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 1: of pushed him ahead of yeah, the other guys, But no,

2284
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ahead of Born in the passing game.

2285
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,959
Speaker 1: That's one time where it really feels like game plan specific.

2286
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: Like sometimes when they say game plan that guy doesn't play,

2287
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 1: You're like, it's one of the things, like you can't

2288
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:30,640
Speaker 1: just do one thing the way they try to do.

2289
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:33,560
Speaker 1: You know that that's a hard way to score, and

2290
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 1: they haven't scored in two games. I liked the little

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01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 1: Jordan wrinkle though. I thought that was smart because when

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01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 1: they had Hunter Henry and Johnny Smith on the field

2293
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 1: together against Miami, the numbers were terrible in twelve personnel

2294
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 1: and they were actually pretty bad in twelve personnel last

2295
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:50,799
Speaker 1: year too. It really hasn't been a super productive personnel

2296
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 1: grouping for them, and Little Jordan maybe a little bit

2297
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 1: more athletic, a little bit faster to the spot. Had

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01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 1: eighteen yard Harris run on the last drive? Like does

2299
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry make that block? Does he? Does he get

2300
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 1: there and seal Edmonds inside? I don't know little Jordan does.

2301
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 1: So you feel Little Jordan's like a plus blocker, Yeah, definitely. Yeah,

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01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 1: at least I'm from what he's shown us some tight

2303
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 1: end in the summer. Yeah. Bill Belichick called him a

2304
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,559
Speaker 1: tight end, tight end ish I did on the broadcast

2305
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: first Justin and Buffalo. Speaking of Buffalo, he says, big fan,

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01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 1: love the work. Um stumbled on the show about a

2307
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 1: year and a half ago. Hasn't missed it. Since I'm younger,

2308
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 1: I've never been able to attend a Page's game, uh,

2309
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 1: due to them being far away, and I don't want

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01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: to go to the Buffalo environment. But he's got tickets

2311
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 1: to the Cleveland game in week six, so good for you.

2312
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 1: My topic is, you don't want to go to the

2313
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo environment, but you're choosing Cleveland's. How much do you

2314
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 1: guys look how much do you guys love the newer

2315
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 1: offense without Josh McDaniels. Do you think that it has

2316
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 1: ever has a chance to look in or perform better

2317
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: than are equal to the Josh McDaniels system with this

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01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 1: current group of guys when he was here in New England,

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01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't I know the answer to that. I love it,

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01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 1: you know love, I love it. I though, I thought

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01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 1: me when me and Never were talking upstairs, he had

2322
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 1: an interesting point of like, I just score points. I

2323
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 1: don't give a crap. What the least come scheme is?

2324
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: Just come close to score points. But I thought Evan

2325
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 1: had an interesting comment upstairs, which I'll let him expound upon.

2326
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 1: But he said, right now, it feels like an offense

2327
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 1: designed by defensive guys. It's a great line. Why you

2328
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 1: had these lines? Why don't have to hear about pin

2329
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 1: and pull? I don't want to hear about pin and

2330
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 1: pull for twenty minutes like that? I could talk pin

2331
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 1: pull for two hours twenty minutes. That's a that's a

2332
01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 1: great one. It's like the least analytical thing he's ever said,

2333
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 1: so groundbreaking. So now I'm going to talk about it

2334
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 1: for forty five one minute. They got five. I think

2335
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is is that you look at them

2336
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 1: reverse engineering certain things right where it's like, Okay, we

2337
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 1: know we're playing Brian Flores, right, we know he's gonna

2338
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 1: play man coverage against us, So we're gonna empty the

2339
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 1: bag of all the man coverage beaters that we have

2340
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 1: in our arsenal. We're gonna run levels, we're gonna run dagger,

2341
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna run crossers, we're gonna run verticals, and one

2342
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 1: of them might work, and we're gonna make you, guys,

2343
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:13,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna tack outside leverage all day long. Right, the

2344
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 1: corners is gonna sit outside leverage and cover one. We're

2345
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna run in breaking routes and it worked better than

2346
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 1: one time. And this is we're gonna make Jacobe Myers

2347
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 1: ripped the ball away from the defensive back. Yes that

2348
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 1: it happens sometimes and were but we're gonna have the

2349
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 1: man beaters dialed up. I also would say that their

2350
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 1: run game script has worked two weeks in a row,

2351
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 1: although it faded against Miami, the plan that has worked,

2352
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: and I think that that comes down to Matt Patricia

2353
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:47,800
Speaker 1: understanding techniques, fits and all that stuff by the defense

2354
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 1: and what their rules and how to expose them are.

2355
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 1: But the problem is is that the Patriots black creativity

2356
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 1: because they don't really have an offensive minded coach in

2357
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: that huddle to really get the juices for the other

2358
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 1: team says, Okay, this is what they're doing. Let's see

2359
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 1: if we can do something to mitigate that. We don't

2360
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: have a response. Right, they don't have a response, and

2361
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:13,320
Speaker 1: they're dead last in play action, they're dead last in motion.

2362
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 1: They're are not a creative offense right now, They're a

2363
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 1: stagnant offense. But but they are really good at understanding

2364
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 1: this is what the coverage is, and if we put

2365
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 1: a receiver here and we put a receiver there, we're

2366
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: gonna flood the zone and we're gonna have an open guy. Like,

2367
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 1: they understand the rules and how to reverse engineer the

2368
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 1: game plan, but they are missing that creative juice. They're

2369
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 1: missing that to give themselves an early advantage or you know,

2370
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 1: to to use some disguise to put their guys in

2371
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 1: better position even if they believe in what the play is,

2372
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 1: trying to make it easier on them, that kind of thing. Yeah,

2373
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 1: and you look at you know, I harp a lot

2374
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 1: on motion at the snap right jet motion or a

2375
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 1: bit whatever it is, and people say, oh, well, why

2376
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: is it so important? So the top five teams in

2377
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 1: the league right now in motion at the snap are

2378
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 1: the top five offenses in the league pretty much, right.

2379
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they have one coming in on Sunday with

2380
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 1: Baltimore that's second in the league in motion at the snap.

2381
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 1: Miami's number one. They just put up forty points in

2382
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 1: a game against the Ravens. Right, Chiefs are always up there,

2383
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 1: The Niners are always up there. Like some of the

2384
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 1: more well architected offenses in the league use motion now

2385
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 1: when you're changing coaching staffs and you're changing playbooks a

2386
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 1: little bit, maybe all that bells and whistles is like

2387
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 1: graduate level and they're just like not there yet. But

2388
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots are the most stagnant offense in the NFL

2389
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 1: right now, and basically what it's making players do is

2390
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 1: win one on ones all the time, Like you're getting

2391
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 1: no help from the scheme whatsoever, and you just have

2392
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 1: to win beat the guy in front of you every

2393
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 1: single gid is why do you think that they've been

2394
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 1: reluctant to use like motion seems like a pretty elementary

2395
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't something that they necessarily majored in with Bick Daniels. Either,

2396
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,840
Speaker 1: they shift right so before the ball is snapped, they'll

2397
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 1: bring Jacoby for I'm here over there, and then he settles.

2398
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 1: But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about, right,

2399
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm just explaining it to the listeners. I know you,

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01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean, but motion, like it doesn't seem like, well,

2401
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: we got to walk before we can run, Like, that's

2402
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 1: not like motion. Isle's like, I mean, you watch any

2403
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 1: Pop Warnery game, you'll see motion. Yeah, you got that

2404
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 1: in the Fenwick playbook. Probably lots will Perula goes in

2405
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 1: motion quite often. He never gets the ball, but he

2406
01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: goes in motion a lot. It's more of a decal

2407
01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 1: and the numbers bear it out that teams that use

2408
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 1: motion and teams that use play action are at a

2409
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 1: huge advantage. Like they may make more yards than everybody else, right,

2410
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 1: Like it's it's really producing. But it's an element. But yeah,

2411
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know Kansas City does a lot of that.

2412
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 1: And what is that just because they're better offenses too,

2413
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, like they're better designed. Are we looking at

2414
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 1: the wrong reason? Or they're good because they have motion? No,

2415
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 1: they're good and they use motion, you know, But but

2416
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,880
Speaker 1: are they good because they're confusing you with the quote

2417
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 1: unquote I candy that everybody talks about. All yeah, they're

2418
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 1: getting you to focus on something you shouldn't be focusing. Yeah,

2419
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let me play with you this way.

2420
02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 1: When Andy Reid, Sean McVeagh, and Kyle Shanahan all believe

2421
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 1: in motion, who are probably the three best offensive coaches

2422
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 1: in football, and their teams are consistently at the top

2423
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:17,080
Speaker 1: of the league in motion, that tells you that it

2424
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:18,960
Speaker 1: might be a good thing. A lot of times, like

2425
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, how does he get wide open on a play?

2426
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, you know, he's got to

2427
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,200
Speaker 1: be the focal point of everything you do. Well, maybe

2428
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, I remember the play in the opening week

2429
02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:31,520
Speaker 1: against against Miami when he comes across in motion, ran

2430
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 1: off Jonathan Jones like nothing, you know, twenty five yards?

2431
02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:39,520
Speaker 1: But does that does that have anything to do with motion? Well,

2432
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 1: a lot of times motion is not necessarily confused. Just

2433
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: it's for the quarterback to see what coverage are they in.

2434
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:48,120
Speaker 1: That's that's the reaction to our motion. That is another thing.

2435
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 1: But I've actually heard a lot of people say that

2436
02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 1: that's not as elementary as people make it out. Yeah, Like,

2437
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 1: if you follow the guy in motion, you're in man.

2438
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:57,840
Speaker 1: A lot of times defenses will the Patriots love to

2439
02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:01,480
Speaker 1: do that. Right on defense, you get followed, but it's

2440
02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:05,040
Speaker 1: their corners and their dbs are taught to play every

2441
02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:08,000
Speaker 1: single spot in the coverage, so if it comes in motion,

2442
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:10,280
Speaker 1: they get quarterbacks with that all They got a Baker.

2443
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger picked off Baker last year in that Cleveland game,

2444
02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 1: and it got exact same thing. Guy came in motion,

2445
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 1: guy followed him and ended up being zoned and he

2446
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 1: throws it right into the zone. So I think that

2447
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: the you look at just again, all of these great

2448
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 1: offenses around the league, and I think that Tyree Hill

2449
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 1: plays such a great example because they from one side

2450
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 1: of the formation, they missed, emotion them all the way across,

2451
02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:37,040
Speaker 1: and then send them out the other side of the formation.

2452
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:40,760
Speaker 1: This is Tyree Hill against man coverage. Jonathan Jones like

2453
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:44,320
Speaker 1: good luck? Like who is Like who is you know,

2454
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:47,680
Speaker 1: without question, the focal point of the defensive game point. Yeah,

2455
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:50,120
Speaker 1: Like I know Bill Belichick. I've watched him for twenty

2456
02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 1: plus two years. I know who we went into that

2457
02:01:52,120 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 1: game right to stop and he still got a hundred yards.

2458
02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:58,120
Speaker 1: And it's difficult too when you have the motion, especially

2459
02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:00,080
Speaker 1: at the snap, if you have like a double or

2460
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:02,640
Speaker 1: bracket call or something like that. On now, all of

2461
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 1: a sudden, it changes everything, right, and in a split second,

2462
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:08,320
Speaker 1: you might have to change where the help is or

2463
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:11,000
Speaker 1: where the leverage is for the corner, and it could

2464
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:13,200
Speaker 1: change your entire structure. So that those are the types

2465
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 1: of things that it really threatens. And I keep I'll

2466
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 1: keep harping on it. I mean, I just they need

2467
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:20,400
Speaker 1: to have more bells and whistles in this offense. Otherwise

2468
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:22,320
Speaker 1: we're going to score seventeen points every week. All right,

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02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 1: That's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots on Filter.

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02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:27,840
Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, Thanks Andy Hart for showing up. That was fun.

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02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow, Picks tomorrow. We'll see you then.

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02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:36,920
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