1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: with it's signs to have you with us a Thanksgiving week, 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: and we've got a lot to cover on this show 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: today that you're not going to want to miss, including 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: a moment of clarity I think for the Republican Party 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: that deals with someone deciding I'm going to resign from Congress, 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Senator your reaction to Margie Taylor Green saying I'm out. 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: Well. Marjorie Taylor Green announced she's going to resign from 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: Congress in January. It's a big deal. She was a 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: major player of the House representatives. Her views I think 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: had gotten more and more extreme. President Trump had announced 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: he was withdrawing his support from her because she had 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: gotten so extreme. We're going to break that down. We're 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: going to talk about why she's stepping down. We're going 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: to talk about what it means. I think it's a 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: consequential moment in the House and it's a consequential moment 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: for the country. We're also going to talk about her 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: a really astonishing story, which is welfare fraud by Somali's 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: in Minnesota funneled millions of dollars of tax payer money 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: to the Islamic terrorist organization Al Shabab. It really is 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: a stunning, stunning story that's been reported and it shows 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: the really pernicious things that we're seeing unfolding in our country. 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: And finally, we're going to talk about Texas redistricting. Texas redistricting, 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: as everyone knows, the state of Texas redrew the map 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: to add five Republican House seats, a federal district court 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: struck that down, and then on appeal, the Supreme Court 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: has halted the decision of the federal district court. We're 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: going to talk about what's likely to happen in Texas 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: redistricting and what it means for control of the House 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: of Representatives in the midterms. 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really an incredible story. We're going to have 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: that for you in a moment. All right, Thanksgiving week 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: is here. 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That's Hillsdale dot edu slash 70 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: Verdict to enroll for free Hillsdale dot edu slash Verdict. 71 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: All right, Senator, so let's start with Margie Taylor Green. 72 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: I genuinely thought this was a great moment for conservatives, 73 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: for the conservative movement, for the Republican Party watching her 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: decide to resign. And the reason why I say that 75 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: is because it gave me hope that we are so 76 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: different than the Democratic Party. We police our own and 77 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: we call out those that are about actors, unlike the 78 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: Democratic Party that is not policed their party at all. 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: Now that you're witnessing socialists getting elected in two major 80 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: cities in this country, and radical leftists that have taken over, 81 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: and yet we still seem to have a moment of 82 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: clarity where I hold, on a second, this is not 83 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: what we believe. I found it incredibly encouraging your reaction. 84 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: Well, Ben, I think you make a good point if 85 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: you look about and this is something I've been talking 86 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: quite a bit about. Ten years ago on the Democrat Party, 87 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: we saw anti semitism, radical extreme anti semitism rising on 88 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party, and Democrat leadership didn't do anything about it. 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: They basically look the other direction. They said, gosh, this 90 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: is a small fringe view, we don't need to worry 91 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: about it. It'll be fine. And in the decade that followed, 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: we have seen pro hamas consume the Democrat Party. Now 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: you and I have talked about, and I've been talking 94 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: publicly a lot about, I see the same thing potentially 95 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: starting to happen on the right. I've seen more anti 96 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: semitism in the last six months on the right that 97 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: I've seen in my entire life. And my hope is 98 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: the Republican Party doesn't make the mistakes that the Democrats 99 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: did that we say enough is enough. No, And I'll 100 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: tell you this is striking because if you look at 101 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: in Republicans and the House of Representatives. The vast majority 102 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: of elected Republicans in both the House and Senate are 103 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: passionately pro Israel. They're supporters of the US Israel alliance 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: and relationship. They understand the national security benefits of standing 105 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: with Israel. They understand that when Israel is killing Hamas 106 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: and hesbela terrorist, when Israel is taking out Iranian ier 107 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: GC terrorists, that they're making America safer. They're a handful 108 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: of House Republicans who become more and more vocal as 109 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: voices for being anti Israel. Marjorie Taylor Green was on 110 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: the front of that list. In fact, the leading to 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: House Republicans who had become vocal anti Israel voices were 112 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gates. And I do think 113 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: it's striking that Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gates very 114 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: soon neither one of them is going to be in 115 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: the House. Matt Gates already resigned and Green announced that 116 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: she's going to resign in January. And I think that's 117 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: really that is a powerful statement. Yet, you ought to 118 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: ask yourself why didn't AOC resign, Why didn't ilhan Omar resign. 119 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: Why didn't Rashida Tali resign? Why didn't the radicals and 120 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party resign? And it's because their leadership fundamentally 121 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: was weak. And I want to commend Donald Trump. If 122 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: there's one person who is most responsible for Marjorie Taylor 123 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: Green resigning, it is j Trump. Here's what he put 124 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: out on truth Social quote. I am withdrawing my support 125 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: and endorsement of quote unquote, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green of 126 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: the Great State of Georgia over the past few weeks, 127 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: despite my creating record achievements for our country, including a 128 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: total and complete victory on the shutdown, closed borders, low taxes, 129 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: no men and women's sports or transgender for everyone, ending DEI, 130 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: stopping Biden's record setting inflation, biggest regulation cuts in history, 131 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: stopping eight wars, rebuilding our military, being highly respected by 132 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: every country in the world as opposed to being the 133 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: laughingstock that we were just twelve months ago, having trillions 134 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: of dollars record setting invested in the USA, and having 135 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: created the hottest country anywhere in the world from being 136 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: a dead country just twelve months ago, and so much more. 137 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: All I see wacky Marjorie, do is complain? Complain? Complain? 138 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: It seemed to all begin when I sent her a 139 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: poll stating that she should not run for senator or governor. 140 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: She was at twelve percent and didn't have a chance unless, 141 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: of course, she had my endorsement, which she wasn't about 142 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: to get. Now, look, when Trump said that that he 143 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: was going to oppose her, it changed the dynas significantly, 144 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: And it changes so much that she put out a 145 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: statement this past week saying she's done. She's resigning in January. 146 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: She's withdrawing from the Congress. And listen, Marjorie Taylor Green. 147 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: She got elected five years ago. She's not been in 148 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: the House very long. She is a loud voice. She 149 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: used to be maybe the single loudest voice pro Trump, 150 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: and we saw her and it actually, I think it's 151 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: a cautionary tale about when you embrace anti Semitic views, 152 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: anti Israel views, you quickly start down a slippery slope. 153 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: Where she began attacking Donald Trump, she began attacking capitalism. 154 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: She began attacking much like Tucker Carlson attacking who America is. 155 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: She went on the View and had a love fest 156 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: with the left wing host on the views she was 157 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 2: arguing for expanding and extending the Obamacare subsidies. I mean, 158 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: it really was a good example that once you start 159 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: down that road, all of the rest of conservatism goes 160 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: out the window as well. 161 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a moment where I was genuinely proud 162 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: to be a conservative, also a Trump supporter, and I 163 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: loved the fact that President was this blunt about it. 164 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: Because if you don't have moral clarity on issues like 165 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: anti semitism, so goes your party. And we've seen what happens, 166 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: and the Democrats are a cautionary tale. The most radical 167 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: of the radicals in this country are now within the 168 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, and many of them are leading the Democratic Party. 169 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: And I worry that we could go down that road 170 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: if we didn't start policing our own and making sure 171 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: especially those that become radical and anti Semites were not 172 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: police better. I think the other part about this is 173 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: not only is she going to be out of Congress, 174 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: but her voice is going to disappear, I believe, from 175 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: the conservative movement as well in a major way. And 176 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: that also is a consequence, whereas many times Democrats is 177 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: a complete opposite of that. 178 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that it'll disappear. I actually think 179 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: she may be similar to Matt Gates, where they both 180 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: will continue to espouse whackier and whackier views, views that 181 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: are more and more out of the mainstream of Republicans 182 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: and conservatives. But I do think it will be a 183 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: much smaller platform. And you know, Ben, I actually talked 184 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: to President Trump about it this weekend. He called me 185 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: Friday night and we spent probably fifteen twenty minutes on 186 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: the phone. We were talking about lots of different things, 187 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: but one of the things just as we were making 188 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: conversations about, I don't know, eleven o'clock at night Friday night, 189 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: and I said, miss President, were you surprised that Marjor 190 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 2: Taylor Green stepped down? And he sort of laughed and said, no, no, 191 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised at all. And he mentioned he said 192 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: he said she was mad because he said she would 193 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: call him once twice, three times a week and he 194 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: wasn't calling her back all the time. And you know, 195 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: he said, look, I've got fifty three Senate Republicublicans, I've 196 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: got two hundred and nineteen House Republicans. I've got a 197 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: couple one hundred leaders of countries across the world, and 198 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: I sort of laughed. I said, yeah, look, you're a 199 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: very very busy man. And to be honest, I don't 200 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: call Trump all that off. And I probably talked to Trump, 201 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, every two weeks, i'd say on average, 202 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: but I try not to. Some of my colleagues call 203 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 2: him a lot. And you know, I told him, I said, look, 204 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: you're a busy man. I try not to bother you, 205 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: just to like call, to tug on your shirts, leave 206 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: and say, you know, high, high high, Like I try 207 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: to call when I've got a purpose, I've got an objective, 208 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: I've got a decision that I think is important, something 209 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: we need to get done. But it was interesting. He 210 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: said she was calling him several times a week and 211 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: it was just too much. And you know, I think 212 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: his withdrawing his support from her is what caused her 213 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: to drop out. And I'm glad of that. I mean, 214 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: I do think it shows Republicans being willing to say 215 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: we're not going to embrace the radicals, and in a 216 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: way that it's hard to think of a time the 217 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: Democrats have done that in modern history. 218 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. 219 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: And I hope this also is a cautious shot across 220 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: the bow to any others that are out there in 221 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: the Republican movement that are going down the same road 222 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: that hey, if you think that the President's going to 223 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: be silent about it, you're probably wrong. 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It is 269 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: a story that I hope everyone listening will actually share 270 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: on social media. Share this podcast where you can on 271 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: social media as well, because this is one of those 272 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: stories for me that I am hoping we will be 273 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: able to make it go viral. There are so many 274 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: people that voted for President Trump because they wanted there 275 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: to be clarity on waste fraud and abuse in our government. 276 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: It's what DOGE was created around. 277 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: And the amount of waste fraud abuse of our tax 278 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: dollars has become absolutely massive. Now we're seeing some states 279 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: be very proactive and and fighting this. We've seen local 280 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: governments where it's happening, it's trickling down. 281 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: I think that's also incredible. 282 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: But there is a story that broke that is should 283 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: make every American angry, and that is this story of 284 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: the largest funder of Al Shabab turns out to be 285 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: an Al Shabab is a terist organization, a smalling terrists 286 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: organization is actually the Minnesota taxpayers. Now that may just 287 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: seem like a weird headline to people, but what we're 288 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: witnessing is tax dours funneling directly to the Islamic Terrasts organization, 289 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: and it's been going on at numbers that were clearly 290 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: warning signs when Joe Biden was president in the amount 291 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: of funds that were leaving Minnesota, and no one seemed 292 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: about an eye or no one seemed to care that 293 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: this was happening. Break it down for everybody that doesn't 294 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: know anything about this. 295 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: Well, this is a story that's really at the intersection 296 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: of two issues that matter enormously. Number one is wait 297 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: for waste, fraud and abuse in government, and we see 298 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: that at the federal government, we see that at the 299 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: state level, particularly in big blue states. But secondly, the 300 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: rise of radical Islam in America, and it's dangerous, it 301 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: is threatening our liberty, and it is spreading. It's spreading 302 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: often with the enthusiastic cheerleading of Democrat elected officials. This 303 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: story is right at the intersection of both of them. 304 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: And so the City Journal reported I'm just going to 305 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: read a portion of this article because it really is 306 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: it's a stunning report, and it begins. The largest funder 307 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: of Al Shabab is the Minnesota taxpayer. How some of 308 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: the state's welfare funds ended up in the hands of 309 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: a terror group. Minnesota is drowning and fraud. Billions in 310 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars have been stolen during the administration of Governor 311 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: Tim Waltz alone. Of course, Tim Waltz was Kamala Harris's 312 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: nominated BVP Democrat. State officials overseeing one of the most 313 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: generous welfare regimes in the country are asleep at the switch, 314 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: and the media, duty bound by progressive pietes, refuse to 315 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: connect the dots. In many cases, the fraud has allegedly 316 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: been perpetrated by members of the Minnesota sizable Somali community. 317 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: Federal counter terrorism support sources confirm that millions of dollars 318 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: millions in stolen funds had been sent back to Somalia, 319 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: where they ultimately landed in the hands of the terror 320 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: group Al Schebab. One confidential source put it quote, the 321 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: largest funder of al Chebab is the Minnesota taxpayer. Our 322 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: investigation shows what happens when a tribal mindset meets a 323 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: bleeding heart bureaucracy. When imported clan loyalties collide with a 324 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: political class too timid to offend, and when accusations of 325 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: racism are cynically deployed to shield criminal behavior, the predictable 326 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: result is graft, with taxpayers left to foot the bill. 327 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: If you were designed to design a welfare program to 328 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: facilitate fraud, it would probably look a lot like Minnesota's 329 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: Medicaid Housing Stabilization Services Program. The HHS program, the first 330 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: of its kind in the country, was launched with the 331 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: noble goal to help seniors, addicts that disabled in the 332 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: mentally ill secure housing. It was designed with quote low 333 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: barriers to entry and quote minimal requirements for reimbursement. Nonetheless, 334 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: before the program went live in twenty twenty, officials pegged 335 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: its annual estimated price tag at two point six million dollars. 336 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: Cost quickly spiraled out of control. In twenty twenty one, 337 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 2: the program paid out more than twenty one million dollars. 338 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: By the way, it was projected to be two point 339 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: six million. In the following year, annual costs shot up 340 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: to forty two million, then seventy four million, then one 341 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: hundred and four million. On August first, Minnesota's Department of 342 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 2: Human Services moved to scrap the HHS program, noting that 343 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: payment to seventy seven housing stabilization providers had terminated this 344 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 2: year due to credible allegations of fraud. Joe Thompson, then 345 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: the acting US Attorney for the District of Minnesota, when 346 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: even further saying the vast majority let me repeat that 347 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: the vast majority of the HHS program was fraudulent. On 348 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: September eighteenth, Thompson announced criminal indictments for HHS fraud against 349 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: Maktar Hassan, Aiden, Mustafa Daibe, by Lee, Khalid, Ahmed daib 350 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: Ab de Fita, Mohammed Mohammad, Christopher Adisoli Falat. By the way, Ben, 351 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: you try to go through those names, Yeah. 352 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to pass on that. Great job. I give 353 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: you a B plus on that. 354 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: Okay, six of whom, according to the US Attorney's office, 355 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: are members of Minnesota Somali community. Thompson made clear this 356 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: is the first round of charges for HSS fraud that 357 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: his office will be prosecuting most of these cases. Unlike 358 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: a lot of Medicare fraud, medicaid fraud nationally aren't just 359 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: overbilling Thompson said to press conference announcing the indictments. These 360 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: are often just purely fictitious companies solely created to defraud 361 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 2: the system, and that's unique in the extent to which 362 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: we have that here in Minnesota. Thompson said, many of 363 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: the firms enrolled in the program operated out of dilapidated 364 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: storefronts or run down office buildings. The perpetrators often targeted 365 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: people recently released from rehab, signed them up for Medicaid 366 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: services they had no intention of providing. He noted many 367 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: of the owners of companies engaged in HHS fraud had 368 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: other companies through which they built other Medicaid programs, such 369 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: as the EIDBI Autism program, the Adult Rehabilitative Mental Health 370 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: Services Program, the Integrated Community Services Program, the Community Access 371 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: for Disability Inclusion Program PCA Services, and other Medicaid waivers services. 372 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: What we see are schemes stacked upon schemes, draining resources 373 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: meant for those most in needs. It feels never ending. 374 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: I have spent my career as a fraud prosecutor, and 375 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: the depth of the fraud in Minnesota takes my breath away. 376 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: You read that and you just think about how much 377 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: money this is that not only was stolen from the taxpayers, 378 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: and they go into how much it kept growing and 379 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: growing and growing these programs. But it's obvious that people 380 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: knew there was fraud. Then you find out it's going 381 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: to a terrorist organization, and so we're funding the terrorist organization. 382 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: How the hell do people not go to jail for this? 383 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: Well they are a number of people are being prosecuted. 384 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: But you know what is striking is not just was 385 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: their massive fraud, but the massive fraud was funding terrorism. 386 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: Here's what the City Journal continues saying. Perhaps the most 387 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: surprising aspect of the Somali fraud story is the scale, 388 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: with total costs running into the billions of taxpayer dollars. 389 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: That raises the question what happened to all that money? 390 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: The Somali fraud rings have sent huge sums and remittances 391 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 2: or money transfers from Minnesota to Somalia, according to reports, 392 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: and estimated forty percent of households in Somalia get remittances 393 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: from abroad. In twenty twenty three alone, the Somali diaspora 394 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 2: sent back one point seven billion dollars, more than the 395 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: Somali government's budget for that year. Our investigation reveals for 396 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: the first time that some of this money has been 397 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: directed to an even more troubling destination, the al Qaeda 398 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: linked Islamic terror group Al Schebab. According to multiple law 399 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: enforcement sources, Minnesota's Somali community has sent untold millions through 400 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: a network of Hualas, informal clan based money traders that 401 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: have wound up in the coffers of Al Schebab. According 402 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: to Glenn Kerns, a retired Seattle Police Department detective who 403 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: spent fourteen years on a federal Joint terrorism task force, 404 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: the Somalis ran a sophisticated money network spanning from Seattle 405 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: to Minneapolis, and we're routing significant amounts of cash on 406 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: commercial flights from the Seattle airport to the Juala networks 407 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: in Somalia. One of these networks, Kerns discovered, sent twenty 408 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: million dollars abroad in a single year. So this is 409 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: money that's coming from the Minnesota taxpayers. It is going 410 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 2: through the Somalia Somali community in Minnesota back to Somalia 411 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: on the order of magnitude of one point seven billion 412 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: dollars a year, and millions of those dollars were flowing 413 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: directly to al Shabab and al Kaita linked major terrorist organization, 414 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: that this is tragic, it is shocking. And by the way, 415 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: I'm curious, have you seen it on CNN, no, NBCCBS. 416 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: Nope, none of them, none of them touching. 417 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: It, MSNBC, no, Washington Post, New York Times, Nope. You 418 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: would think that would be news. 419 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: I also look at the amount of money and how 420 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: quickly it grew. That's something else that I do think 421 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: is interesting. Here is how I mean you want to 422 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: talk about warning signs center, there was clear warning signs, 423 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: like very very clear warning signs that this was happening, 424 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: and yet no one in government seemed to stop paw 425 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: or ask a question. That part also to me is 426 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: just like is it always unlimited funds? 427 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 3: Is that how it's now? In government? 428 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: And whatever you start just keep making it grow and 429 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: double and trip win size year after year after year 430 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: and spending and and no one's like, hold on a second, 431 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: this doesn't add up this many kids with autism that 432 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: doesn't seem normal. Well, how much it went doubled from 433 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: last year the year before the year before that. I mean, 434 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: there's a clear line here of like red flags that 435 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: no one seemed. 436 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 3: To care about well. 437 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: And it's worth remembering Tim Waltz is not someone at 438 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: the fringe of the Democrat Party. Tim Waltz is who 439 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris thought should be vice President of the United States. 440 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: Presumably Kamala thought that she should he should succeed her 441 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: and become the President of the United States. And Tim 442 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: Waltz like like many Democrats, but what Waltzes is worse 443 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: than many of them just look the other way, just 444 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: turned a blind eye. And one combination, it's a combination 445 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: of a number of factors. One piece of it is 446 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: just the left wing view that the more money you're 447 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: giving way and welfare the better, and so it doesn't 448 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: matter how much it grows. If you're giving a million 449 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: dollars this year, they wanted to be two million, then four, 450 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 2: then six, then eight and twelve. They want it to 451 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: grow without any any consideration about number one, bankrupting the 452 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: state and the taxpayers. But number two about the impact 453 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: of spending all that money trapping people in dependency. But 454 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: a second component of it, it's not just dependency. Dependency 455 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: assumes someone's actually getting well for payments. It is also 456 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: bleatant fraud and there is unfortunately a network of corruption 457 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: where many of those engage in fraud are also writing 458 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: checks to elect Democrats. And if you look at the 459 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: Somali community in Minnesota, it is a major voting network 460 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: that votes for Democrats in Minnesota. And so at the 461 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 2: end of the day, the Democrats, when it comes to 462 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 2: buying votes, shoveling this cash into this maw of fraud, 463 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: even though the taxpayers were being robbed and the money 464 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: was going to a radical Islamic terrorist organization. If you're 465 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: a Democrat, it made political sense on some level because 466 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: you got money and you got votes. And it is 467 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: astonishing that there's not do you know a single Democrat 468 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: denouncing this. No, I mean that's a striking thing. 469 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I love doing the show, because it's 470 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: we give you this. And then, as I said earlier, 471 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: I'll say it again. 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That's Compassion dot Com to 489 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: learn more. All right, And finally, Centaer, I want to 490 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: move to this other story and it's an update, but 491 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: it's a victory update and it deals with Texas redistricting. 492 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: It's set off a firefight with California, Gavin Newsom getting 493 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: involved in them doing some just unbelievable jerrymandering of the 494 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: map out in California. They claimed it was in retaliation 495 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: for what Texas was doing. Then Democrats went after Texas 496 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: and try to stop it. And now we have Justice Alito, 497 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: who is involved at the Spring Court level. Give this 498 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: update about the Texas redistricting fight. 499 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: Well, as everyone knows, President Trump has asked state legislatures 500 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: Republican legislatures to redraw the map to elect more Republicans 501 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 2: to the House. A significant reason for that is that 502 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: there is right now an imbalance. Democrats have gerrymandered the 503 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: living daylights out of blue state. So blue states send 504 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: an overwhelming majority of their delegation to be Democrats despite 505 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: the votes of their citizens. And let me give you 506 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: some specific numbers. So Texas right now has thirty eight 507 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: congressional seats. Right now, Republicans have twenty five of those, 508 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: Democrats have thirteen. That means the percentage of Republicans in 509 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: the delegation today is right about sixty six percent. Now, 510 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: about fifty six percent of the state voted voted for Trump, 511 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: a little more than fifty six percent, so the current 512 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: delegation is slightly more than the statewide vote for Trump, 513 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: but not much. The state legislate redrew the map, so 514 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: instead of electing twenty five Republicans, the new map is 515 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: expected to elect thirty Republicans to add five new Republicans. Now, 516 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: under that new map, it will increase. Assuming those thirty 517 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: Republicans win, it would increase the percentage of Republicans from 518 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: sixty six percent to seventy nine percent. Now seventy nine 519 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: percent is a larger portion. How does that compare it 520 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: to Democrat states? California under their old map, eighty three 521 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: percent of the delegation is Democrat. Illinois eighty two percent, 522 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: Oregon eighty four percent, Washington State eighty percent, Maryland eighty 523 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: eight percent. Massachusetts there are nine congressional seats. You know 524 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: how many Republicans are elected out of Massachusetts? 525 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: How many? 526 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: Zero goosey? One hundred percent of the Massachusetts delegation is Democrat. Connecticut, 527 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: same thing, one hundred percent. Texas went from sixty six 528 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: to seventy nine percent, still less than California. And what 529 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: did California do in response? Increased it from eighty three 530 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: percent to ninety two percent, dramatically jerrymandering its map. Now 531 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: what happened next is, of course, there was a lawsuit. 532 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: There's always a lawsuit when this happens, and a federal 533 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: district court. It's a three judge court. So it's two 534 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: district judges at a Federal Court of Appeals judge, which 535 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 2: is a it's a weird statutory creation that exists in 536 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: redistricting litigation. That court just over a week ago struck 537 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: down the Texas map and it ordered that instead of 538 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: being under the new map that would likely add five 539 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: new Republicans, to go back to the old map that 540 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: would not add five new Republicans. If that order stays 541 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: in place, the likely impact of redistricting is the Democrats 542 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: retake the House. I mean it would flip the House. 543 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: It was a very consequential decision. This was a two 544 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: to one decision. It was authored by a federal district judge, 545 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: Jeff Brown, who was a Republican nominated by Trump, joined 546 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: by a Democrat district judge, and there was a descent 547 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: from Jerry Smith. Now who is Jerry Smith. Jerry Smith 548 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: is the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals judge that's on 549 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: this panel. I know Jerry Smith very well. He is 550 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: one of the two most longstanding, most well respected conservatives 551 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: on the Fifth Circuit. Jerry Smith and Edith Jones have 552 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: long been the conservative warriors on the Fifth Circuit. I 553 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: got to tell you, Jerry Smith wrote a descent in 554 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: this case. Ben, I've probably read a thousand descents in 555 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: my life. I've never read a descent like Jerry Smith's descent. 556 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: He just onloaded on the majority opinion. He just eviscerated 557 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: it as unprincipled, as political, as partisan, as wrong. That dissent. 558 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you literally read it, and you ought to 559 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: google and read it because you've never read a judicial 560 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: opinion like this. Well, what happened on appeal is, initially 561 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: the appeal for a stay went up to Justice sam 562 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: Alito was the individual Circuit justice sitting over the Fifth Circuit, 563 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: and he stayed the opinion of the District Court. So 564 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: right now as we're talking, the District Court's stay will 565 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: not go into effect, which means, as of right now, 566 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: the new map stays in effect. Now we may get 567 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: a decision this week. It's possible the Supreme Court allows 568 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: the District Court opinion to go into effect, which would 569 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: mean the old map would stay at effect. My prediction 570 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: is this District Court opinion will be stayed. It will 571 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: be stayed through the election. We will stay with the 572 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: new map that the legislature has drawn, and I think 573 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: this District court opinion is going to be reversed on appeal. 574 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: It is a big, big deal because this outcome, the 575 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: Court's not throwing out the map that the legislature adopted, 576 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: could very well determine whether the House Representatives in twenty 577 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: twenty seven is Republican or Democrat. And so I'm very 578 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: glad the Supreme Court stayed this decision. 579 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: It really is a big one and another victory for 580 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: rule of law and getting rid of so many activists 581 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: that are trying to stop the way that the business 582 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: is supposed to work. And that's what Democrats have been 583 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: relying on for far too long. So it's nice to 584 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: see justice here prevail. Don't forget. We do this show Monday, 585 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday. 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