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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks man, thanks for hanging out absolutely buddy.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good to see you too.

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Speaker 3: I like to start off the show with because I

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Speaker 3: never want to ask a question that you get asked

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Speaker 3: all the time, because you'll be sitting the whole time thinking,

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Speaker 3: I know he's gonna ask me about this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the three questions you get asked the most,

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Speaker 1: what's number one?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that is a good question. That's a tough one.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I get asked about Gwenn a lot.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, let's go.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like it's not it's from the standpoint of,

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Speaker 2: you know, the questions that you get, like, so, what

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Speaker 2: are you guys doing for Thanksgiving this year? And does

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Speaker 2: Gwyn cook or you know, it's they're innocent enough, you know,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's just probably whatever the whoever's boss that

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Speaker 2: go get this stuff from him so we can put

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Speaker 2: it in the you know, the life section of the magazine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's Gwyn Cook, let me ask it.

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Speaker 2: She loves the cook, all right.

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Speaker 1: What's the question? Number two? You get asked the most?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I kind of blackout during these

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Speaker 1: And it's like drunk or board.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it depends on what time of day, I guess.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't do a lot of interviews unless

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Speaker 2: we have a you know, a project or something coming.

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Speaker 2: That's why this one's this one's fun to do with

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Speaker 2: you this time, because you know, I really I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure the record labels I don't say that, but

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Speaker 2: I'm really not like promoting any We're not launching anything

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Speaker 2: right now. You know, we're kind of in between projects,

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Speaker 2: and so I thought it'd be fun just to come

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Speaker 2: here and like actually have a visit with you, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? Okay, then still quit asking me such

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was supposed to be the softball part of

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Speaker 3: the interview. Oh god, Greg, because I figured it was Gwynn.

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Speaker 3: I figured it was Mullet.

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Speaker 2: I'm not good at till like top ten things, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. They even said, like, oh, bother you.

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Speaker 2: They want to know, like what your all time top

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Speaker 2: oh my god, what are they? I don't even really know.

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Speaker 3: You're worried about this a little too much, I guess,

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Speaker 3: so I guess. So, Okay, the mullet, When did you

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Speaker 3: cut it? This is gonna be the second question I

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Speaker 3: figured you get asked all the time.

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Speaker 2: Well, the mullet. It was was an evolving change because

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Speaker 3: The third question I thought people would ask all the

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Speaker 2: I got on the Voice because well, I had done

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Speaker 2: a couple of shows before The Voice, one Nashville Star.

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Speaker 2: And I remember that was when I met Adam and Silo,

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Speaker 2: Yes, without helped my music, meaning you know, just put

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Speaker 2: I've kind of stayed that guy.

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Speaker 1: You've stayed ever.

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Speaker 2: Since then, Yeah, how do you like living in California?

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Speaker 2: I don't particularly love living here. It's not California. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For me, it was I would come home from

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Speaker 3: You know, did you play music as a kid, because

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Speaker 2: It's a long drawn out of that. Uh. And she said, well,

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00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: I have some things that I need done around my house.

435
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: I'll pay you to come work paint my house and stuff.

436
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: I've got a family reunion coming up and I want

437
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: the place to look good. And so that's what I did.

438
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 2: For like the first two weeks. I moved to Nashville.

439
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: Painted Maybourne Acton's house and you know her Hoyt was there.

440
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: He was living in his tour bus in her driveway

441
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: at the time. I don't know if it's where he lived,

442
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: but that's where he was staying. He wouldn't stay in

443
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: her house. And I remember I would go and sit

444
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: on the curb and I'd go to Jack in the

445
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: Box or whatever and get something to eat for lunch.

446
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: And one day I was sitting on the curve there

447
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: and he opened the bus door and I couldn't believe it,

448
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: Like I was. My favorite movie as a kid was Gremlins.

449
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: And so this is a guy from Gremlins like standing

450
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 2: there and he goes, he goes, hey, boy, come on

451
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: up here. And so I went up on his bus

452
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: and and uh, and he just talked like he just

453
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: wanted to talk, you know, and and uh. He was

454
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: a chain smoker. And he was just the coolest person

455
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 2: I had ever seen or met, Like he was just

456
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 2: like not even a real person to me, like he

457
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: was from the movie. Like I couldn't believe it. And

458
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: I told him that day I said, well, okay, you know,

459
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: like I've heard to go back to work. I said,

460
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: are you going to be here tomorrow? And he goes, yeah,

461
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: I'll be here, and I go, well, tomorrow's my birthday.

462
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: I turning eighteen tomorrow. And so the next day, same thing.

463
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: He invited me up on his bus and he said

464
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 2: what kind of music are you gonna make? You know?

465
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: And I told him who my people were I looked

466
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: up to, and he said, well, listen to this song.

467
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: And he started tapping. He didn't have a guitar, he

468
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 2: just started tapping on the table in his bus and

469
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: he sang old Red to me, and my mind was blown,

470
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: like what is this song like? And you can imagine

471
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 2: it coming from Hotz's voice, you know, it's big, deep voice.

472
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: It was just mesmerized, and I didn't think I would

473
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: ever hear the song again. I didn't even know what

474
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 2: it was or where it came from or anything. And

475
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: then he went back into his back of his bus

476
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 2: and he came back out and he gave me this

477
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: knife that was like this. It's like this, I'll still

478
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: have it, and he told me a story. Well first

479
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: he just told me the story about the knife, about

480
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: the guy that made it out of some railroad tracks,

481
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: and he gave it to me from my eighteenth birthday,

482
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: and he's a happy birthday, you know. And so I

483
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 2: got the knife on my eighteenth birthday and I was

484
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: given what went on to be arguably my signature song,

485
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: maybe the most impactful song of my career, within two

486
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: weeks of moving to Nashville. On my I still have

487
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: the knife. Yeah, that's I's got. I got a bar

488
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: at my house that I have a few things that

489
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: mean something to me, and it's right there in the middle.

490
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 5: We interrupt this interview to bring you a message from

491
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:58,040
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492
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: What did your appearance, say, moved to Nashville.

493
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: They were completely supportive of it. You know, I'm sure

494
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: deep down they thought, you know, what the hell is this?

495
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: But they also knew that I absolutely had no interest

496
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: in anything else like it unless it was fishing or hunting.

497
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: This is the only shot this kid has it something meaningful,

498
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: you know, And so they were very supportive of it.

499
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: And of course, especially my mom just probably thought, oh,

500
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: he's gonna make it, you know. She just didn't have

501
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: any doubt about it whatsoever. I'm not sure if my

502
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: dad was it was totally that confident, you know, he

503
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: had a little more different view on it, but he

504
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: was very supportive of me going and trying it, and

505
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: and and so that that was really helpful too. You know.

506
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: There was never any resistance or you know, I just

507
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: felt full on support from all of my family to

508
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: go try this thing. You know, it's actually working for

509
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: you around here in our area, so maybe you can

510
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: do it.

511
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: You know, do you remember the first time that they

512
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: where they were living, not where you were, heard your

513
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: song That actually meant you were making it, because they

514
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: heard your song randomly somewhere.

515
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: I don't I don't remember when they heard it like your.

516
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: Mom's like I heard Austin on the radio. It's crazy.

517
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure that conversation happened. I think I probably beat

518
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: them to the punch to everything though, Like is anytime

519
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: something would happen, like when Austin came out, like when

520
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: it first charted on Billboard back then, you just waited

521
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: till the actual magazine came out and you're like, oh

522
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: my god, there it is at seventy two. You know,

523
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: first call you mom, my song is at seventy two.

524
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: It's on the chart like for real, like, oh my god,

525
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: you know. And so my constant updates probably outran any

526
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: any kind of news that they would have for for me.

527
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: You know. I remember, though I happened to be home

528
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: back then when your album came out. This is oh

529
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: my god. It was brutal to for me. When your

530
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: album came out, you had to go do these in

531
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: store signings like Walmart or Kmart was still a big

532
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: music seller back then, and so they sent me out

533
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: kind of like the radio tours. The week my album

534
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: came out, I had to go do these in store

535
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: like autograph things, and they thought it would be a

536
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: good idea to send me back through where I came from.

537
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: That would make a story. You know, he's back home

538
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: with his And that week I was happened to be

539
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: staying at my mom's house. I was in between Oklahoma

540
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: City and Dallas, so I got to go to my

541
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: mom's for a day in between. And that day their

542
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: label called me and said Austin had gone number one

543
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: at country radio. And of course it was just like

544
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: I couldn't have been at a better place with my

545
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: friends and family and and you know, it was just unbelievable.

546
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 2: Like newspapers that I had grown up looking at as

547
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: a kid, like the Daily Oklahoma, the Tulsa World, Like

548
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: people were bringing to my autograph signing there and Ate Oklahoma,

549
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: Like I was on the cover of those newspapers, and

550
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: it was just everything, like like when you're talking about

551
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: your dreams coming true, Like it was just like that

552
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: for me. Like after seven years in Nashville, the song

553
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: got on the radio, I was on the cover of

554
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: the newspaper. Song went.

555
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: You know, you went from two weeks working to seven years.

556
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: It took that long with with my attraction a little tractions.

557
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: You get close a couple times before like you got

558
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: a deal, like were you ever almost there?

559
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: The only person from the executive record label side that

560
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: I only got close twice, and it was the same

561
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: guy both times, and it was Doug Johnson. I had

562
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: a I had gotten a meet a chance to meet

563
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: Doug Johnson when he ran Epic Records or he was

564
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: an R. I don't know what he did at Epic

565
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: an R or something. And I went in and I

566
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: got to plan, you know, my tape, and I think

567
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: I might have even played him something on the guitar.

568
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: He said, Man, I think you got something. He goes,

569
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: I want to think about this. I think you I

570
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: like this, you know. And so for like a week

571
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: I was dying like for my phone to ring, like

572
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 2: and finally he called like a week later, and he

573
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: just said, you know, I just don't think you're ready.

574
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: I think I want you to keep coming to see me,

575
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: but I don't think you're ready yet. And he took

576
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: maybe one or two other meetings with me, and nothing

577
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: ever happened. And then a few years later I met

578
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: Bobby Braddock, who who strongly believed in me, and he

579
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: went and re produced like three tracks on me, one

580
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: being old Red and a song called all Over Me,

581
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: and I can't remember the third one. And he went

582
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: to every record label in Nashville and pitched me, and

583
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: he went to at that time, Doug Johnson had moved

584
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: over and was taken over a Giant Records, and he

585
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: had a meeting with Doug Johnson said I want to

586
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: play this new kid and handed in Missus Blake Shelton,

587
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: and Doug went, oh my god, that's the kid. I

588
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: remember him. And I remember they called like a couple

589
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: of days later and said I was you know. Doug said,

590
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: I was right, you just needed some time. I want

591
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: to sign you to Giant Records. And of course attorney

592
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: at the times like, well, we'll see about that, and

593
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: I was like, no, we're not going to see about it.

594
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: I have been in Nashville all these years. I'm signing

595
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: this record deal, you know. And and so uh it

596
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: was four years though, I think three or four years

597
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: after I signed before they we ever released any music.

598
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: And so that was that was the same kind of

599
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: purgatory as the first half of not being signed. But

600
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's getting the record deal. Was when I

601
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: signed the record I remember I went and met Bobby

602
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: and I drove there. Used to be a restaurant in

603
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: Nashville called Naushville, and we went and met her there

604
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: to tell her, all right, we decided to we want

605
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: to we want to sign with Giant Records, you know.

606
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: And that was the first day that I ever felt

607
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: like I belonged in Nashville. I felt like I had

608
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: a place, Like I didn't feel like a cling on

609
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: driving down Music Row, you know, just beating on doors

610
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: and being a pain in everybody's ass, and you know,

611
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 2: just I just felt like I belong here now, like

612
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: I really have a place on Music Row.

613
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: Now, you know, did you ever think you'd go home?

614
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: Did you ever think you quit?

615
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

616
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: There any instance way, like I don't know if this

617
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: is for me anymore.

618
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: There was always yeah. And it started happening when my

619
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: friends that I graduated high school with were now graduating

620
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 2: college and there I was still like, you know, hanging

621
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: out in Nashville and I but every time that I

622
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: almost gave up, something would happen. There would always be

623
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: some little hey, I heard so, and so you know,

624
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: they dropped, they dropped an artist, and they they are looking.

625
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: You know, there would always be some little glimmer of hope.

626
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 2: You know. I remember I got a meeting one time

627
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: with you know, Byron Gallimore, which is from ten. Huh,

628
00:34:59,320 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: don't know?

629
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: From ten?

630
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: From Tim McGraw. Yeah, tim McGraw's producer. I got and

631
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: Byron would kill me, but I don't care. It's been

632
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: long enough now I can tell this story. He'll probably

633
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: give me crap about it. But I had a meeting

634
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: with Byron and I played him a bunch of songs

635
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: that I had written or co written. It was of

636
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: my demos, and I even played him something on the guitar,

637
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: and it was kind of like he goes, man, but

638
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: he didn't run a record label or anything, but he

639
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: was probably with Tim McGraw back then, the hottest producer

640
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: in Nashville, and so it was as close to getting

641
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: a record if Byron was going to produce you as

642
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: somebody would sign you, you know. And he said, man,

643
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: I really like these songs, and I like your voice.

644
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: He goes, but you just don't really have like that

645
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: that bottom end, that bass bass that you need, you know,

646
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: to like you. He goes, how old are you?

647
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 5: You know?

648
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: Said man, I'm twenty or however old I was, and

649
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, I mean it's want to be there.

650
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: It'll be there. You know. You just need more wear

651
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 2: and tear on your voice, and your voice just isn't

652
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: quite developed. And he goes, this is what he's gonna

653
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: kill me about. He goes, man, you do you smoke

654
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: or you drink whiskey or anything? And I go, well,

655
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: I don't smoke. I said, I drink if I can

656
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: get it, you know. He goes, well, he goes, maybe

657
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: if he smoked or something, and I man, I left

658
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: his office and I went straight there. Used to be

659
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: that Virginia's market. They might still be there that we

660
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: called it the Murder Mark. I drove straight there and

661
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 2: I bought a pack of it. Is right when Marlborough

662
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: Ultra lights came out, I thought, man, I can probably

663
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: smoke one of them. They're probably not too bad. And

664
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: I bought a pack of Marlborough Ultra Lights. And for

665
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: three months I sat on my back porch over by

666
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: Harding Mall. I had a little apartment over there, and

667
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: I try to smoke these cigarettes, and man, I would

668
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: cough and gag. And I finally got to where I

669
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: could smoke them, you know. And then but I don't

670
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: know how, because my dad smoked. He was addicted to

671
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: cigarettes his whole life, but most of his life, and

672
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: I never got addicted to him. Finally, one day I

673
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: was like, man, this is stupid, Like what am I doing?

674
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: You know? I never I guess I wasn't doing it right,

675
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: but I I tried it. I tried it. Byron. I

676
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: guess eventually I got old enough that I had enough bottle.

677
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: Me end developed.

678
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: Huh, low end developed naturally enough. I guess. Let that

679
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: be a lesson Byron.

680
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: You know you're doing the residency in Vegas, which is

681
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: super cool.

682
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: I have a personal question about that. Do they send

683
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: a plane to get you every show or do you

684
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: stay there?

685
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: No? I just have my own plane. You know, I

686
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: don't have the Garth. I don't have the.

687
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: Gard's bigger flex if you have your own plane.

688
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: I guess. So it's just it's pretty expensive. Yeah. I

689
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: always heard about it, we all as as country artists.

690
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: I remember when Garth got that that residency that he

691
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: did at the Wind, when that was end of the plane,

692
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: and that was before residencies were like the thing to do,

693
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: and it was like, what's he gonna do? What they

694
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: gave him? What they gave him?

695
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: The plane, the end, they gave him the pla R.

696
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: Steve Wind gifted him the plane.

697
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, he set the bar too high right off the bat.

698
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: You know, I don't I don't know if anybody's arrived

699
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: at that Garth level ever again. You know, the Caesar's

700
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,479
Speaker 2: is like, hey man, we'll pay you, but you figure

701
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: out how to get your ass hero, you know.

702
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: So I went to the Garth Residency.

703
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: I haven't never heard anything, but how incredible it Well,

704
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: it was the acoustic one.

705
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: Right, it was acoustic, and he would play songs that

706
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: influenced him into a song that kind of made sense

707
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: after it. So he'd play like a James Brown song.

708
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: He played a song from the Eagles like a verse

709
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: in a chorus and then going to one of his

710
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: songs versus chorus, which then it was hour and forty

711
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: five minutes. You know so fast that those shows are

712
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: really fun though, because it's massive artists like yourself, but

713
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: you're closer to them as you then you normally would

714
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: be at an arena or a big amphitheater.

715
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: Is that fun for you to actually be closer to people.

716
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: I love to be able to to interact. You know,

717
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: the one thing that I never truly loved about touring arenas,

718
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: and when we got to those kind of size of venues,

719
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, that's your dream, that's the ultimate,

720
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: like look at me, you know, but it was never

721
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: as fun to me. And I learned early on, man,

722
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: you can't have the kind of moments that you have

723
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: at the coliseum at Caesar's Palace in an arena because

724
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: people don't know who you're talking to. So if you

725
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 2: try to like have a moment with somebody in the audience,

726
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: you really lose. At least I never figured out, you

727
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: really lose the arena at that moment. You know, you

728
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: so everything you do, you really have to play everything

729
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: over the top big to everybody. You know. That's how

730
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: I've had to, you know, get through and feel like,

731
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: you know, I did a good job, you know. But

732
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: my passion, what I love is when I would play

733
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: the bars or you know, a small theater or do

734
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: something acoustic and and have those moments with somebody specific

735
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: in the audience or a group that you can tell

736
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: is a birthday party or a bridesmaid party or something,

737
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: and have a moment because in the venue that size,

738
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: everybody's in on whatever's happening, you know, and it just

739
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: for me, that's the most fun to have that kind

740
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: of a connection. I'm more afraid of an audience if

741
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: I can't have that kind of connection.

742
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 4: You know, Hang tight, the Bobby Cast will be right back.

743
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 4: Well them back to the Bobby Cast.

744
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, those shows are always super fun because you're just closer.

745
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: You just you can just again because only massive artists

746
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: play those the Vegas residencies. But then it's kind of

747
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: the opposite of what you're used to because then you're

748
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: super close to a massive artist.

749
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that that's fine. Is this your second

750
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: round doing them though? Right?

751
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

752
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: Do you stay at the casino or do you get an airbnb?

753
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: Or do you just go home?

754
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: I usually just go home. I mean it's just like

755
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: thirty minutes.

756
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: Do you ever go to the casino?

757
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: Huh?

758
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: Do you ever go to the casino and gamble?

759
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 5: No?

760
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: Did you ever have a gambling phase?

761
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

762
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: Are you still in that gambling phase? Just not then?

763
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wouldn't just call it a gambling phase.

764
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 3: I'd call it a poker I had one of those two. Yeah,

765
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: Big I used to fly out to Vegas all the time,

766
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: playing tournaments.

767
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: Just love to play the tournaments and stuff, but not

768
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: as I don't bet on sports or any of that stuff,

769
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: you know, outside of a stupid fantasy football league, you know.

770
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: But uh no, I'll never go in there any more.

771
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: Just I feel like, if I'm going to step out

772
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: when I'm in Las Vegas, I'll go over to Old

773
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: Red and jump on stage and sing something, you know,

774
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: and feel like I'm getting, you know, getting to do

775
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: something fun and you know, showing my face and you know,

776
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: it's always you know, a good idea, you know. When

777
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 2: I have these places to poke my head in once

778
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: in a while, I feel like, because you know, I

779
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: think it's important for people to feel like it really

780
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: is somewhere that I would come to, and so I

781
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: do try to go to them and when I can.

782
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy how all that happened.

783
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: You're you meet somebody in your hometown and she's like,

784
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: move to Nashville. But then while you're living in Nashville,

785
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: her son takes you in, plays you a song, and

786
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: then you record that song in your first few songs,

787
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: and then it becomes a had for.

788
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: You and then you named Bart. But all that because

789
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: she happened to be receiving an award in the small

790
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: town that you grew up in, and you were there

791
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: that night.

792
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 2: I look back, man, and I think, you know, I

793
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: wonder if if one thing, to go back to your

794
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: question about that contest, I want, if one thing would

795
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: have happened different, just one thing, I wonder what I'd

796
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: be sitting here today talking to you about all this.

797
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's just amazing how things have to especially

798
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: in this business. You know, have to just absolutely just

799
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: line up perfectly and the right thing ends, something begins.

800
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 2: You know, It's it's crazy to think about, you know,

801
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 2: the what IF's for sure.

802
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: I've got three more questions for you if you were

803
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: to go sit down. We're an hour. What's about an hour?

804
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: Really?

805
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

806
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: What do you want to know for about anything? Anybody

807
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: wants to hear? It's just me?

808
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: I think that's what they want about me the whole time.

809
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: Talk about you?

810
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: All right, give me one question. Give me the three

811
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: questions you think I could ask the most?

812
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: Were you dying to leave Arkansas?

813
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: I knew the only way that I was going to

814
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: be successful and what I wanted to do, which was radio,

815
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: TV comedy. Is I had to leave a town to

816
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 3: seven hundred people. So to me, Hollywood or New York

817
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: or Nashville, that was fairy tale.

818
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: Like, it wasn't hard, It wasn't luck.

819
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: It was really hard because I knew nobody, but I

820
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: just knew it was the only way that I was

821
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: going to have a shot. Yeah, me too, because again,

822
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: you would see TV that stuff wasn't real to me

823
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: or to you because I'm in Arkansas, You're in Oklahoma.

824
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: People in New York and LA that was so fancy

825
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: and rich in Hollywood. Yeah, none of that was real.

826
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: I when I went to Idol, because I was on

827
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: Idol for four years and I'd never been to California

828
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: until it was time to go for work, and that

829
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: was what a lot of those kids were going through.

830
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: That's part of the reason they hired me for that

831
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: show because the first time that I was there and

832
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I get it, and we'd be

833
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: off to the side, I'd be like, you're freaked out.

834
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: You've never seen buildings like this. Same same with me.

835
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: So it was difficult, but I knew I had to

836
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: do it.

837
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

838
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a question one, all right.

839
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: Question two? The baby are you are you. Are you

840
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: afraid right now? Are you excited? Are you scared?

841
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: The easy answer is, yeah, of course I'm scared. The

842
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: hard answer is that I never had a dad. I

843
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: don't have a model, which like, I didn't really have parents.

844
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 3: My mom was an addict, you know, so she was

845
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 3: in and out. My grandma raised me a lot.

846
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: For me.

847
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: The part that's super scary is that I've not seen

848
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: successful parenting, so it's totally unknown. It's like we're going

849
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: to drop you off on Mars. That's what this feels like.

850
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: So I'm excited about it because I think the part

851
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: of me can heal through that version of it.

852
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I know what's gonna Well.

853
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: The one thing that you know is you're going to

854
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: be there.

855
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: So but like my dad left me when I was

856
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: five years old, how do you leave that? And is

857
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: that genetically in me where I'm just like I should

858
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 3: leave like that stuff. That's the part where that I

859
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 3: wrestle with.

860
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you, but I don't think so.

861
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: I don't either, because I have an awesome wife. Yeah,

862
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: but yeah, that's that's the answer to that one. And

863
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: your final question, because I have like two more questions

864
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: for you.

865
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: My final question for you is what are your other

866
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: two questions for me?

867
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: Great?

868
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 3: Thank you, good question. Glad you asked. I want you

869
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: to do this one through five. Give me your favorite

870
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: Blake Shelton songs one through five.

871
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 2: Number one, Well, I guess, I guess Austin is probably

872
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: my number one favorite. You know, I've gone through such

873
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: a love hate relationship with that song.

874
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: Did you not like to play it for a while?

875
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: It will only because like I was just so sick

876
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: of it, like are you kidding me? Like, I mean,

877
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: it's the it was brought me to the game, and

878
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: and and so about five or six years after that

879
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: song came out, you know, when I first started performing,

880
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: we would do Austin twice a night. We would like

881
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: do it like early in the set, because that's the

882
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: only reason anybody's at this bar. And then we would

883
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: like do it at the end because people showed up

884
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: that weren't there when I first did it. You know,

885
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: So doing that one song twice a night for at

886
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: least two years, you know, because I don't have anything

887
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: else you may wanted to hear. And we were so

888
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: excited when Old Red started becoming a hit it was like,

889
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: oh my god, we have two songs, and so I

890
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: just got so burnt out on it and and it

891
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: but I never stopped doing it, you know. It was

892
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: just like, oh gosh, we got it. Here we go,

893
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, and now I'm back to man. What a song?

894
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 5: Like?

895
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: What a just an incredible song that those two that

896
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: they wrote, and and it just stands. It seems like

897
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: it stood the test of time, you know, and like

898
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: people you know, come to the show and I could

899
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: tell it takes them back to a moment like in

900
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: their life when when that song was a hit. And

901
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: so there's that. I think a song that I don't

902
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: perform anymore in concert, which is probably one of the

903
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: most well written songs that I've ever recorded, is called

904
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: the Baby.

905
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: It's number two on your Lesson.

906
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it it's just the most honest and heartbreaking

907
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: lyric like it's like the stereotype of country music being

908
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: the sad. I mean, it is it. It is the

909
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: epitome of that. I stopped doing it in my shows

910
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: because it would bring like you'd be you'd finally get

911
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: the place going, you know, if you're playing an amphitheater

912
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: or an arena and then you play the baby and

913
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: literally like people want to leave. They're like, this is

914
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: the worst feeling I've had all night, Like this is terrible.

915
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 2: I I don't want to hear this, you know, And

916
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: so I just stopped doing it. And and but the

917
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: song was you know, it was a it was a

918
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: big record for us, And it's weird to have a

919
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: record like that that you just you're just afraid that

920
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: if you do it live, you're just gonna kill the show.

921
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: Uh and uh. And then I would put old that

922
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: would be number two. I'd put Old Redd at three. Uh.

923
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: And there's a song that I had out years ago

924
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: called who Are You? And I'm not looking that. I

925
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: just think so just a beautiful song and I just

926
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: love the idea of that song. And I don't know,

927
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: maybe mine would be You was another record that we

928
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: had years ago that I just always thought was, uh,

929
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: you know, underrated. And these are all ballads, huh.

930
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, My favorite songs are all ballads too, because you

931
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 3: can really spend time with the lyric.

932
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

933
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: I don't know songs that are fast. I kind of

934
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: know melodies that are fast. I don't know songs that

935
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 3: are fast lyrics anyway, But I listened to the baby

936
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: every night before I go to bed.

937
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: Do you really you do? Not know? I don't, but

938
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: you're just the kind of guy though you would have

939
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: some reason like yeah.

940
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right.

941
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: Final question for you, if you have a perfect day,

942
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 3: what's your perfect day?

943
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: Perfect day is in Oklahoma at the ranch. Gwen is there, uh,

944
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 2: and the boys are there, but the boys are doing

945
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: their own thing, Like that's what I love about the ranch, Like,

946
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: you know, that's where the kids have learned to dry,

947
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: that's where they've learned to fish then do all the stuff.

948
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: That's where they've learned that there's places you can go

949
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: and just be free. And they don't get that here,

950
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: you know. And so my perfect day is there with

951
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: Gwynn and the boys. And the boys are outside doing things.

952
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: You know. It makes me happy to see them just

953
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: out messing around. It's simple and does that sounds It's

954
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 2: just makes me happy, you know. And it's not hot. Yeah,

955
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: and it's not hot. I'll take you know, five degrees

956
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: over one hundred degrees.

957
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to take that, but I get it. Okay,

958
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 3: you spent time of pairing, So give me your favorite albums.

959
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 3: Three favorite albums of all time? Find this is It?

960
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 3: Send Us on Blaze the Glory.

961
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: Earl Thomas Connolly, Somewhere between Right and Wrong was one.

962
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: I put a lot of miles on that cassette.

963
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: Buddy, was that given to you by your mom or dad?

964
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: Or no? I bought I bought that one. I bought

965
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: that one. That the album had been out for fifteen

966
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: years before I.

967
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: Bought it, That's what I was asking.

968
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, I bought Mark Cawley's I think the name

969
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: of the album. It was the album that had some

970
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: even the Man in the Moon is crying on it.

971
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: I think it was Born in Black and White is

972
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: the name of the album.

973
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: That was such a gem because even man in that's

974
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: such a gem.

975
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole record, Man, it got it. I'm gonna

976
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: have to do my top five haul Over Streets Heroes

977
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: album and then I'm going to say, Travis Tritt, it's

978
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: all about to change those ones. And Sean camp had

979
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: had an album that I lived on to six?

980
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: Was it five? Or said? Was that six?

981
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: I think so? All right?

982
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: You said he didn't like lists.

983
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 2: That's what I mean his interview.

984
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: And you started the interview, I don't like lists. You

985
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: demanded to do a list.

986
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 2: I don't top fives or to our top ones.

987
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: Lists.

988
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: That's a Ki's said here tomorrow and go oh all

989
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: forgot about Kelly Willis. Yeah, she's got to be in there.

990
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 2: I thought I was going to marry her when I

991
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: was in high school.

992
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: You know, we used to record a video.

993
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 2: And Teresa Berg I had her line through the Moon

994
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: album of Miles on that thing.

995
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: And you're still making the list. I love it. Yeah

996
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: changed you, he changed man.

997
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 3: I really appreciate the time we came out here to

998
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: see you, so I really appreciate you spending an out here. Yeah,

999
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: this is this is really cool. Uh and you guys,

1000
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: we talked about it at the very beginning before Blake

1001
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 3: got here. But it's happening at Caesar's Palace, the Residency.

1002
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: Go go see it. It's awesome. He talks to every

1003
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 3: single person in the crowd. And if he does not

1004
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 3: talk to you, your money back. You heard it here first,

1005
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: straight eye contact, a conversation with you or your money back.

1006
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: Like I just flashback to my instore autograph signings.

1007
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: All right, good to see you, Blake, Thank you buddy.

1008
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: This has been a Bobby cast production,