Speaker 1: Welcome. In episode three point fifty one, What's right when
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Speaker 1: So there is that we have an absolutely jam packed
Speaker 1: show today. We have like nine topics all for everything
Speaker 1: from Dame going back to the Blazers, Marcus Smart signing
Speaker 1: with the Lakers, CP three going to the Clippers, Why
Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe in the Lions? Jerry Jones is just
Speaker 1: silly comments on Micah Parsons and two somewhat heavy topics
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Speaker 1: be faster than we typically are, particularly on the more
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Speaker 1: Demon's a big day. Good to see you, pal, love
Speaker 1: that Bodie your You're dressed immaculately. I'm wearing one of
Speaker 1: my worst white T shirts. But such is life. Big
Speaker 1: day in the right household today, Pow, do you know
Speaker 1: what's happening today. Baby sisters going off to sleep away
Speaker 1: camp for three weeks. Oh she leaves, she leaves in
Speaker 1: like an our Hell yeah, and.
Speaker 2: So exciting stuff.
Speaker 1: Exciting, a little nerve racking, but exciting all the same.
Speaker 1: So all of that is happening and going on here.
Speaker 1: She might pop in if she has to leave while
Speaker 1: we're doing the pod to say goodbye, so that'll be nice. Uh.
Speaker 1: There was one other thing. Oh yeah, by the way,
Speaker 1: your baby sister, she is keeping you to the she
Speaker 1: gets to come to LA and spend a weekend with
Speaker 1: you or longer with you this summer and summer is
Speaker 1: rapidly ending. So I'm just letting you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: need some time available in mid to late August where
Speaker 1: Deane is gonna be with you. I'm just getting you
Speaker 1: aeat of time. We still got time, okay, all right,
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Speaker 1: love the deal? Is it a risk? Yeah? Because if
Speaker 1: he doesn't continue on the trajectory that he is, then
Speaker 1: it'll end up being a contract they don't love. But
Speaker 1: if he does continue on the trajectory that he's on,
Speaker 1: then it is an absolute steal. It is almost on
Speaker 1: average annual value, it's about half of what the top
Speaker 1: pass rushers are getting now Hornets when their first title
Speaker 1: in franchise history. Is not lost on me that the
Speaker 1: Hornets finally won something and it was in a tournament
Speaker 1: LaMelo did not play in. And the Eagles receive their
Speaker 1: ridiculous Super Bowl rings that have pop out wings on them.
Speaker 1: I'm not bitter at all. They're the deserving champions. Those
Speaker 1: rings are outrageous. All right, demons, Let's get to the
Speaker 1: story from the weekend, which is the WNBA All Star Game.
Speaker 1: Kind of so, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the ladies of the WNBA All Star Game,
Speaker 3: we're protesting with shirts that read pay us what you
Speaker 3: owe us, And Kelsey Plum took a little bit of
Speaker 3: a shot at Caitlin Clark after and said that zero
Speaker 3: members of Team Clark were very present. It could have
Speaker 3: been an inside thing, could have been a dig. What
Speaker 3: did you see here?
Speaker 1: Okay, So the Kelsey Plum thing I think was totally
Speaker 1: misconstrued and that's not the real story. But I want
Speaker 1: to address it, because Ramona Shelbourne also, I thought, did
Speaker 1: a good job addressing it this morning. So Kelsey Plum
Speaker 1: is up on the dais with was it Sabrina who
Speaker 1: was the other player alongside her? Yeah, okay, so what Sabrina. Sabrina,
Speaker 1: by the way, is on Team Clark, and they talk
Speaker 1: about the meeting that morning about wearing the shirts, and
Speaker 1: Kelsey Plum says, like, now, no members of Team Clark
Speaker 1: were there, taking poking fun at Sabrina and also I
Speaker 1: think or I thought, poking fun at the fact that
Speaker 1: they had all been out partying the night before and
Speaker 1: that team didn't get up in time. That was my
Speaker 1: initial reaction. Ramona Shelbourne then reports out on it today.
Speaker 1: WNBA players, including Kelsey Plum, had been discussing the pay
Speaker 1: US what UoS T shirts for over a week. According
Speaker 1: to multiple sources, they settled on the idea at breakfast
Speaker 1: Saturday morning that very few players on Team Clark attended
Speaker 1: because of the early start, but just to make sure,
Speaker 1: sources said, uh, Brianna Stewart and the FISA Collier and
Speaker 1: others went by the Team Clark locker room before the
Speaker 1: game to make sure they were on board with the
Speaker 1: IDM plan they were, I thought, Ramona writes, I thought
Speaker 1: it was fairly obvious Kelsey Plum tried to make a
Speaker 1: joke that didn't land the meeting where players decided to
Speaker 1: where the shirts at eight there on Saturday. Understandable that
Speaker 1: not many from Team Clark made it after what we
Speaker 1: saw on stud buds from the night before. Now, I
Speaker 1: am not locked in enough on WNBA lore to know
Speaker 1: about this stud bud stream prior to WNBA All Star weekend.
Speaker 1: It seemed very popular during All Star weekend, but I was.
Speaker 1: I am logical enough to know Kelsey Plumb was not
Speaker 1: in a moment of WNBA player unity taking a shot
Speaker 1: at half of the All Stars. But because Caitlin Clark's
Speaker 1: name was involved, people took it and ran with it.
Speaker 1: That's not the story. The story is how many people
Speaker 1: are such utter losers. And here's what I mean, folks,
Speaker 1: general rule of thumb blind. If workers are trying to
Speaker 1: extract more money from owners and management, general rule of thumb,
Speaker 1: you should be on the worker's side. Now, I know
Speaker 1: some of you listening are like, well what about me?
Speaker 1: I own a eighteen person habit astery business, and that
Speaker 1: I'm an owner. Okay, good you, I guess can be management.
Speaker 1: But the vast majority of us, and I say this
Speaker 1: by the way, as a silent partner owner of a
Speaker 1: small business. Uh you know it's very small. It's my
Speaker 1: wife's boutique. But like I guess, I technically have my
Speaker 1: hand in both pots. Worker and business owner. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: The people that create the product create the value. Those
Speaker 1: people trying to extract more money at the very least,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be rooting against them. And if you are
Speaker 1: going to try to be like, well, actually, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: Actually know what the hell you're talking about. So here's
Speaker 1: the reality. Does anybody at does anybody intelligent actually think that, well,
Speaker 1: Max's contract in the NBA. In the NBA is around
Speaker 1: fifty million a year, so I guess max contract in
Speaker 1: the WNBA should be about fifty million a year. No,
Speaker 1: nobody's making that case. Nobody with a platform that matters
Speaker 1: is arguing NBA and WNBA players should be paid dollar
Speaker 1: for dollar the same, like the purses at Wimbledon can be.
Speaker 1: But it makes sense for the purses at Wimbledon to
Speaker 1: be the same men's and women's they get similar TV ratings.
Speaker 1: The tickets self for the same they are generating the
Speaker 1: same money. The issue that the WNBA players have that
Speaker 1: is a fair and correct issue is multifold. And again,
Speaker 1: so many losers are just bootlcking management sellouts because they
Speaker 1: think one day they might actually be It's the same
Speaker 1: folks that are like, well, you know, right now, a
Speaker 1: tax policy that helps out the lower class would help me.
Speaker 1: But what about when I have fifty million dollars and
Speaker 1: I want to pass that down to my kids. It's like, buddy,
Speaker 1: probably not getting there. You probably should worry a little
Speaker 1: bit more of the here and the now than the
Speaker 1: estate tax. But I digress. What people are arguing is
Speaker 1: in the NBA demands if it's a fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: split of back br basketball related income. So if the
Speaker 1: league generates ten billion dollars, the player's salaries get five billion,
Speaker 1: and that's how you pay the players. The owners get
Speaker 1: five billion, and that's how they run the league, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, pay all the bills that come
Speaker 1: associated with running the league, and they hope there's money
Speaker 1: left over. It's fifty to fifty in the NBA. Do
Speaker 1: you have a guess what again, the size of that
Speaker 1: pie doesn't change. The size of the pie can change.
Speaker 1: Pardon me, the split does not. It's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1: It used to Brew told me the other day. It
Speaker 1: used to be sixty three thirty seven in the player's favor,
Speaker 1: and the owners have kind of chipped away at it
Speaker 1: or whatever. But it's fifty to fifty now, which feels
Speaker 1: pretty fair. Like okay, Like I'm not gonna act like
Speaker 1: owners don't do anything. I'm not gonna act like they're unimportant. Now.
Speaker 1: I would always again, yeah, I would always listen. I'm
Speaker 1: a union guy. I'm a union kid. I my dad
Speaker 1: was the president of the firefighters union for basically my
Speaker 1: entire life. I you know, I am a union guy.
Speaker 1: My first term paper I ever wrote my life was
Speaker 1: about leq WALSSA and the Polish Solidarity movement. It's colored
Speaker 1: my politics, It's colored who I am. It's I think
Speaker 1: when a lot of people talk about man, you know,
Speaker 1: we see these stupid old tweets. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: in the seventies, you know, you people were able to
Speaker 1: the man worked, the wife stayed at home, you had
Speaker 1: a car, you had a house, you sent your kid's school.
Speaker 1: It is like what changed and people because they're dopes,
Speaker 1: are like, what changed is immigrants? What changed is the union?
Speaker 1: Jobs and factors and stuff like that. But again, sorry
Speaker 1: for being political this morning, but this is kind of
Speaker 1: a political thing. So go back to you demand what
Speaker 1: do we think or what is your guest? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: split players owner to player? What do you think the
Speaker 1: split is as of this moment?
Speaker 2: I think it's like seventy thirty.
Speaker 1: How about ninety one to nine?
Speaker 2: Oh wow? Any one nine owners?
Speaker 1: Ninety one to nine owners? Now what folks reaction is
Speaker 1: gonna be? But the league loses money? But twenty two
Speaker 1: two thirds of the league he lost money last year?
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? So quick question on that honest question
Speaker 1: because the world has changed in the last two years
Speaker 1: in the WNBA, thanks in large part to Kitlin Clark,
Speaker 1: not solely to Kaitlin Clark, but she's the driving force
Speaker 1: and the success of women's college basketball and the eyes
Speaker 1: and the ratings, all of that. Guys, you think right
Speaker 1: now WNBA teams are worth more or less than worth
Speaker 1: two years ago. You think that if you bought the
Speaker 1: WNBA team two years ago and you offered it up
Speaker 1: for sale today, that you would get more or less money.
Speaker 1: Do you think if it's such a bad business that,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you can't you can't claw any more
Speaker 1: money away from Are there a bunch of WNBA teams
Speaker 1: for sale, It's like, oh my god, nobody will buy one?
Speaker 1: Or are they expanding the league? Is it a league
Speaker 1: where more people want to get in? Again? I don't
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 2: Expand in the league.
Speaker 3: Doesn't it also make it pretty pretty weird to up
Speaker 3: it right now? Wouldn't it make sense for like once
Speaker 3: the all the teams are there, because then there's gonna
Speaker 3: be some other split taken away from the teams when
Speaker 3: those two teams do get there.
Speaker 1: Is that, Well, no, I it's split because like in
Speaker 1: the NBA, they're going to bring it right, You're bringing
Speaker 1: in more money. There's expansion fees all that, and I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not going to I have to be careful
Speaker 1: on what I say here, but I actually have a
Speaker 1: little bit of insight into what what it costs for
Speaker 1: a new w NBA team because Kansas City is trying
Speaker 1: to get one, and I have had very casual conversations
Speaker 1: about being a very very small part of an investment group,
Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you it ain't cheap right now,
Speaker 1: people think WNBA's on the uptick, they think it's a
Speaker 1: growth industry. It is so because it is. And so
Speaker 1: this idea that the players should just be satisfied, and
Speaker 1: this idea that the poor WNBA owners like, uh think
Speaker 1: about the owners that are losing money, when with most
Speaker 1: pro sports, the real profit is in the appreciation of
Speaker 1: the team that in over years, when you eventually cash out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you make ten twenty one
Speaker 1: hundred acts on what your initial investment was. That's what
Speaker 1: it is. And then there is this other very basic
Speaker 1: logical point. Is there any other capitalistic endeavor? So I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about social workers, I'm not talking about kindergarten teachers,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about firemen. The capitalistic endeavor where someone
Speaker 1: of Caitlyn Clark's quality, and I will use her as
Speaker 1: an example because she is the most visible player in
Speaker 1: the league. Is there any other field in the world
Speaker 1: where someone of Caitlyn Clark's caliber would make less than
Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars a year. Think about it, just for real,
Speaker 1: think about it. And the answer is no, there is not.
Speaker 1: So it is a little right now out of whack.
Speaker 1: It is why Britney Griner a few years ago was
Speaker 1: over in Russia playing ball and got caught up. Uh,
Speaker 1: because you can make more money overseas, which is another point.
Speaker 1: Is there proof of concept that you can pay women
Speaker 1: athletes more than the WNBA pays them and still be
Speaker 1: a functional business. Yeah, because leagues across Europe do it.
Speaker 1: So again, nobody serious is arguing that the WNBA players
Speaker 1: and the NBA players should make the same amount of money.
Speaker 1: But nobody serious can actually think that Caitlin Clark and
Speaker 1: Angel Reese and Paige Becker's making seventy some grand a
Speaker 1: year is a proper payment for services rendered. And again
Speaker 1: just a rule of thumb. If there is a labor
Speaker 1: dispute and you don't know much about it, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying the workers one hundred percent of the time in
Speaker 1: every labor dispute across the border and the right, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that. What I am saying is, if there
Speaker 1: is a labor dispute and you don't know much about
Speaker 1: the actual details, and your gut reaction is to side
Speaker 1: with ownership, you're a sucker.
Speaker 2: Or your sexist.
Speaker 1: Well, in this instance, there's a lot of that. In
Speaker 1: this instance, there is for the grand scheme, Yeah, there is.
Speaker 1: You're being more specific to the WNBS. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: mean so, I guys, this is where and I am
Speaker 1: not you know, Adam Smith in that I am not
Speaker 1: a true market zealot. However, there is a beauty to
Speaker 1: an actual marketplace, which is, if it's such a bad
Speaker 1: deal for owners, why is no one selling their teams? Huh?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Why? Well, by the way, you people who are like
Speaker 1: concerned about the long term trajectory of the NBA. If
Speaker 1: you are, you have a few like ooh, data points
Speaker 1: of the MAVs sold, the Celtic sold, the Lakers sold, Like,
Speaker 1: why did those ownership groups get out? Now? The flip
Speaker 1: side to that is they sold for these insane amounts
Speaker 1: of money. So maybe that's a sign in the favor
Speaker 1: that it's healthy, but it is. It is just outrageous
Speaker 1: the amount of people that were like, pipe down, ladies,
Speaker 1: be happy when the truth of the matter is, in America,
Speaker 1: celebrity is super valuable, and over the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: the WNBA players have become celebrities, and Caitlin might have
Speaker 1: been the driving force, but she ain't the only celebrity. Hell,
Speaker 1: the oh my goodness, Sophie Cunningham is a legit star.
Speaker 1: Angel Reese is a legit star. Page is a star.
Speaker 1: Turns out the stud Buds crew have this huge twitch
Speaker 1: or stream following you again, so oh yeah, absolutely. I
Speaker 1: was trying to mention more of like the newer players,
Speaker 1: but yeh, Sabrina's been but yet all those folks. Asia
Speaker 1: Wilson is a legit star and she's been around for
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Speaker 1: All right, demonse, before we get to the commander's team
Speaker 1: name special guest. For the first time in a while,
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to squeeze her in here. Deanna, you
Speaker 1: can sit down, Demanda, have you seen her?
Speaker 3: I was just about to tell you we haven't talked.
Speaker 3: I love your hair, you get you look a lot
Speaker 3: like mom. Right now, you're you're all ready for camp.
Speaker 3: Those are gonna do good for your three weeks.
Speaker 1: All right, so three weeks at camp? Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Are you sad? Yeah? You're gonna miss us. But oh sorry,
Speaker 1: I need to get you more on Mike. My apologies.
Speaker 1: We're very excited. We have to By the way, I
Speaker 1: meant to tell you this, I'll call you guys. After
Speaker 1: the pod, we have to schedule her phone call. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like prison. You got to schedule a phone calls.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be there. You're just gonna be scrubbing floors,
Speaker 1: gonna be doing all this stuff. So I don't want
Speaker 1: to say what camp you're going to. But no, oh no,
Speaker 1: they can't see. It's fine, it's not on camera. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say what camp you're going to, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome. It's your second time at sleep
Speaker 1: away camp, but it's your first time that your sister
Speaker 1: won't be there, and you're gonna crush. Now, I do
Speaker 1: have a question for you, if you don't mind answering it.
Speaker 1: So this isn't all girls camp? Yeah, but I was
Speaker 1: reading about some of the details. Do they have dances? Yes,
Speaker 1: so it's just all you girls dancing together. So what's
Speaker 1: the deal there? You know what's the deal?
Speaker 2: You're asking me this because you.
Speaker 1: Want to say on camera. Well, I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to get the details. Your brother certainly doesn't know
Speaker 1: the Brother camp. The Brother camp. Yeah, a boy from
Speaker 1: my school goes there. Oh, really, don't say his name.
Speaker 1: But are you friends with him. No, oh okay, all right,
Speaker 1: that's good. So how often do you guys meet up
Speaker 1: with them? You don't know? All right, what are you
Speaker 1: most excited for?
Speaker 2: You don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't you got to stay trip for the first
Speaker 1: time in your life. I'm just excited for everything. You're
Speaker 1: excited for everything. Is there a number you're gonna try
Speaker 1: to water ski? I'm not gonna try. You are gonna
Speaker 1: water ski? Anything else? I need to know? Okay, do
Speaker 1: you want to go?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you do that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: The half onun at camp Dana. No, he's not in
Speaker 1: charge of the graphics. No, that's not that's that's not
Speaker 1: his thing. All right, you're gonna do great. Give me
Speaker 1: a giant hug. I love you, Sorry. This is the
Speaker 1: this family business. So this is what we gotta do.
Speaker 1: She's on our way, on her way to camp. You're
Speaker 1: gonna crush give me kiss. I love you bye. Can
Speaker 1: I have the AirPod back?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you guys after the pod to set
Speaker 1: up a phone call. Love you baby. See you don't
Speaker 1: forget anything. Double check your backpack. Okay, I love you bye?
Speaker 1: All right. So there was that she was supposed to
Speaker 1: leave in at noon, but she's leaving now. So there
Speaker 1: there was that. So, uh, thank you guys for that.
Speaker 1: And now the Washington Commander's team name, I mean, get
Speaker 1: to this podcast is a little bit of everything today.
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead.
Speaker 3: So the commanders are they're trying to build a new stadium.
Speaker 1: Hold on, wait, wait, pause, pause, go ahead, you need
Speaker 1: more money? All right, just go on my safe and
Speaker 1: grab grab alright, I love you.
Speaker 2: It's open.
Speaker 1: Well, my wife knows that you think i'd be allowed
Speaker 1: to have a safe in this house that your mom
Speaker 1: doesn't know the combination? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Are they sounded like the door was just like wide open.
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, just go grab it out of my
Speaker 2: safe for me.
Speaker 1: I guess Mom's no, no, no, it's fine. Go ahead, all right,
Speaker 1: so let's yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Commanders are trying to build a new stadium. Donald Trump
Speaker 3: is trying to put that in a halt.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: There could be a number of problems here, but he
Speaker 3: does not like their current name. He wants to revert
Speaker 3: back to the Redskins, which you know was discontinued because
Speaker 3: it was insensitive.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts here?
Speaker 1: This is we just live in the dumbest timeline man.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm not going to do I'm not even
Speaker 1: going to like wade into the obvious like distraction piece
Speaker 1: of this because I'm not. I just don't have time
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 1: Demanse. I want you because I think you will be
Speaker 1: stunned to if you can, can you click on the
Speaker 1: link that I put right beneath the story, because here's
Speaker 1: the deal. So people people conflate things, don't scroll through
Speaker 1: it yet demonse okay, and they're like, why why did
Speaker 1: Washington changed its name but Florida State didn't? Why are
Speaker 1: the braves and the Chiefs allowed but the Indians weren't?
Speaker 1: And these are not complex questions, okay. And the answer is,
Speaker 1: is there an argument that all of the Native American
Speaker 1: imagery should be removed? There's an argument. I actually don't
Speaker 1: believe in that argument. I do think there is things
Speaker 1: where you can be actually honoring a culture. Now. I
Speaker 1: think that, for example, the thing my Chiefs fans do
Speaker 1: that I hate is the tomahawk tomahawk chop, which I
Speaker 1: think that's borderline racist, not even borderline at all in Garrison,
Speaker 1: and I would if people don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: I would show you, but I'm not gonna have a
Speaker 1: clip of me on you know that can be snipped
Speaker 1: on camera of doing that. But it's just like the
Speaker 1: old school, like cowboys and Indians thing for the Indian side,
Speaker 1: and so I don't like that. But the Chief's logo
Speaker 1: in and of itself, just like the Braves logo or
Speaker 1: the Seminoles, which the Seminole tribe tribe of northern Florida
Speaker 1: has not only signed off on but is a party
Speaker 1: to that, I think certainly you can make arguments for it.
Speaker 1: You can't and you never could make an argument for
Speaker 1: pardon me Redskin because it's.
Speaker 2: A literal slur.
Speaker 1: And you couldn't make an argument for Indians because the
Speaker 1: logo was literally a smiling, painted red based caricature and
Speaker 1: you might be like, oh, we were laid on that,
Speaker 1: and we were. But those are undeniably racist. So I
Speaker 1: guess what it comes down to is this, does the
Speaker 1: potential racism or insensitivity have any deniability? And if the
Speaker 1: answer is yes, then we can have the discussion. But
Speaker 1: if the answer is no, And when you have a
Speaker 1: literal painted red face or your name is a literal slur,
Speaker 1: then it shouldn't be used. And the reason I wanted
Speaker 1: Demonde to go to this link is I it is
Speaker 1: unbelievable when you look back at how many teams had
Speaker 1: Native American imagery and they were all the same, cartoonish,
Speaker 1: outrageous looking. What would have been called then Indian the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Warriors was basically a naked guy with a feather
Speaker 1: in his hat, a funny nose dribbling a basketball. That
Speaker 1: was an outrageous depiction. If you scroll down further, Saint
Speaker 1: John's who used to be called the Red Men and
Speaker 1: then became the Red Storm because again red men is
Speaker 1: a racist character, is a racist term. It was again
Speaker 1: a dude with a giant headdress, again the similar nose
Speaker 1: dribbling a basketball. Some of these are out my my.
Speaker 1: My school used to be called the Orange Men. Again,
Speaker 1: if we are ever if there's ever a name that's
Speaker 1: color and then skin like color of skin and then person,
Speaker 1: it's probably one you don't want. And so Syracuse used
Speaker 1: to be the Orange Men. Their Native American mascot was
Speaker 1: outrageously racist, so they got rid of it. And these
Speaker 1: are not things we need to argue about. There is
Speaker 1: no proper way to call a team redskin there isn't
Speaker 1: it's a racist term. And now you might be like, Nick,
Speaker 1: how racist is it? If you're comfortable saying it because
Speaker 1: you wouldn't say the N word on the air, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't say other slurs. And I'll be honest, I kind
Speaker 1: of like it debated that with my head. In my head,
Speaker 1: I feel like because it was the team name for
Speaker 1: decades that that I don't want to say there was
Speaker 1: a numbing of the slur. But I guess I'm just
Speaker 1: more comfortable saying it in this type of conversation even
Speaker 1: though you would you would never again. Another good rule
Speaker 1: of thumb, if calling someone a team name might get
Speaker 1: you punched in the face, it shouldn't be a team name.
Speaker 1: Like you might see a guy and be like, what's up, chief,
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna fight you, or like I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of the other the But if you see someone and
Speaker 1: you called him the old Washington team name, he justifiably
Speaker 1: might punch you in the face. And so I I
Speaker 1: just don't of all the things we need now, if
Speaker 1: you want to say bring back the colors, bring back,
Speaker 1: we actually do want it to be. We want to
Speaker 1: find a name that is that evokes Native American heritage
Speaker 1: and all those things. I'll listen, and I thought, Commanders,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what they were trying to do. But
Speaker 1: I'll listen to you on it. But the Cleveland Indian,
Speaker 1: and I also the Cleveland Indians' logo was an outrage
Speaker 1: and Washington's name wasn't outrage. And yes, there's a million
Speaker 1: things Trump related, like ten years ago, did he tweet
Speaker 1: the President's got more important things to do than worry
Speaker 1: about Washington's football team name? Of course, does Trump have
Speaker 1: you know, other things going on right now that he
Speaker 1: might want the media distracted from. Sure as all of that,
Speaker 1: but there also is at its core, what so much
Speaker 1: of this bullshit comes down to, is I wanna be
Speaker 1: angry about having to adjust any little bit of language
Speaker 1: because other people want me to. And now again, is
Speaker 1: there an argument that at times we have over corrected
Speaker 1: in that area? Sure, is there a free speech I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to do it, of course. But then there is
Speaker 1: just the very basic, simple, not hard and every other
Speaker 1: team for the last at least twenty years across collegiate
Speaker 1: and professional sports, was able to follow it, which is,
Speaker 1: don't have your team name be a dictionary defined slur
Speaker 1: after that we can start having a bit of a debate.
Speaker 1: But there is just a certain group of folks that
Speaker 1: just want to always be mad. Like I saw the
Speaker 1: the the outkit guys tweeted, did you see demanse the
Speaker 1: L Duncan viral clip about L Duncan. She's a sports
Speaker 1: center anchor. She does a great job. She was doing
Speaker 1: halftime of the w NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I did, I did you saw this? L.
Speaker 1: L Duncan is doing like tossing to break at halftime
Speaker 1: of the All Star Game and the the w NBA
Speaker 1: All Star Game notably much like the NBA All Star
Speaker 1: Game this year, not a lot of defense. And so
Speaker 1: she says, and I think this is the quote, what
Speaker 1: I'll call it a paraphrase, she said, much like a
Speaker 1: all girls trip to can Kun, there's no d and
Speaker 1: then they go to break. Now, you might say that's
Speaker 1: a little risk a for the for ESPN, it certainly
Speaker 1: courage for her to say that in that setting. I
Speaker 1: also think El Duncan's never been shy on courage. You
Speaker 1: also can say it's a corny joke. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It made me chuckle just because the setting it would
Speaker 1: have been a grown worthy joke if like a stand
Speaker 1: up comics like, hey, just see enough to be an
Speaker 1: all star game? That like if it was like a
Speaker 1: whole set up punch light thing. But in a given
Speaker 1: the setting of it and the kind of reaction, yes,
Speaker 1: it was just so out of nowhere. I thought it
Speaker 1: was funny, and then those I always have to be
Speaker 1: mad at everything losers are like, can you imagine if
Speaker 1: a man made this type of joke about women?
Speaker 3: And no, okay, not about women, but inappropriate jokes during
Speaker 3: an NBA YEA something is.
Speaker 1: Sure, but no, but the answer is like, listen, man,
Speaker 1: everything doesn't have to be Uh, woe is me the
Speaker 1: oppressed straight white male that just can't get a break
Speaker 1: these days, And it's just you're just playing the same
Speaker 1: song again and again and again and again, and it's
Speaker 1: just so tired and so like folks, if if you
Speaker 1: wanted to have like a smart discussion of have we
Speaker 1: over policed language? Is it speaking of white folks? Is
Speaker 1: it a lot of in some instances, white mostly liberal
Speaker 1: white people changing language in relation to people of color
Speaker 1: that don't actually want it changed, like the Latin X stuff,
Speaker 1: and you know, like that if you want to have
Speaker 1: like a smart actually you know, discussion. There's there is
Speaker 1: room for that. But if you want to die on
Speaker 1: the hill of one of the thirty two teams in
Speaker 1: the NFL, their team name should be a literal, dictionary
Speaker 1: defined slur, then you're just an asshole.
Speaker 3: And a weird thing to be trying to halt the
Speaker 3: construction of the building to go back to something like
Speaker 3: I can see if he was saying you have to
Speaker 3: change your name from Redskins to Commanders, but to change
Speaker 3: it back, it's just it's.
Speaker 1: A And again, I don't think that they're I don't
Speaker 1: think they're actually gonna halt the name and they're not
Speaker 1: gonna go They're not changing the name back. No, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They're not. They're not changing the
Speaker 1: name back. It's just such a it's just such a
Speaker 1: weird hild for groups of folks to like be worked
Speaker 1: up about it. I don't I don't totally get it.
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Speaker 1: let's get to the actual football stuff and we'll go
Speaker 1: through these relatively quickly.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, So Jerry Jones feels like they're going to
Speaker 3: do well with getting micro Parsons extended, or maybe not.
Speaker 3: He said that just because we sign him doesn't mean
Speaker 3: we're going to have him. He missed six games last year.
Speaker 3: What do you think that Jerry's trying to get done
Speaker 3: by saying this?
Speaker 1: Nothing? Just news cycles and just talking. But here is
Speaker 1: what to me is so funny about this situation. Jerry.
Speaker 1: Jerry is laying out all of these I think somewhat
Speaker 1: clumsy and not exactly profound points on you know, the
Speaker 1: risks of paying players, like, yes, they they might get hurt,
Speaker 1: they might not be available, they could regress. Like nobody
Speaker 1: in the audience is like, oh my god, I'd never
Speaker 1: thought of that. But he's doing all of this when
Speaker 1: all of us know he's ultimately gonna pay him, Like
Speaker 1: that's the that the so the Bengals team owner is
Speaker 1: out there, you know what I mean, being like, listen,
Speaker 1: we don't want to give Shamar Stewart the deal we've
Speaker 1: given all the rookies because what we don't think we
Speaker 1: should have to pay him if he's in jail. Really
Speaker 1: what he said, and you can agree or disagree. I
Speaker 1: think the Bengals are poorly run. That's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1: The point is that you that he might actually stick,
Speaker 1: he might stand his ground, he might stick to his guns. Jerry, unquestionably,
Speaker 1: without a shadow of a doubt, is going to pay
Speaker 1: Mic up. And so he is just like he is
Speaker 1: creating a This is a clumsy analogy and I've probably
Speaker 1: used one of these something similar to this before. But
Speaker 1: if deep down you know you and your ex are
Speaker 1: getting back together, then you don't want to like go
Speaker 1: on like a public Twitter rant about what a bad
Speaker 1: girl she was and all the you know, all the
Speaker 1: thing ways she did you wrong, because ultimately you're gonna
Speaker 1: be instagramming pictures with her again. And there is an
Speaker 1: element of when Jerry is like, here are all the
Speaker 1: reasons that paying a player is super risky and you
Speaker 1: might not want to do it. Is there not a
Speaker 1: piece of him? Is there not a piece of him
Speaker 1: that's like, oh boy, I'm definitely planning on paying this player,
Speaker 1: like and this might end up being thrown in my face,
Speaker 1: like and so that is like it, But he is.
Speaker 1: Bruce said this years ago, and he wasn't wrong that
Speaker 1: Jerry is entertainer first, football owner second, and he is
Speaker 1: wanting to make sure the Cowboys are in the news
Speaker 1: and entertaining and all of that. And I guess good
Speaker 1: for them, but it is he's obviously gonna pay Micah,
Speaker 1: And now you're gonna pay Micah, who you have pissed
Speaker 1: off at least to a degree, because Micah retweeted JJ
Speaker 1: Watts tweet and JJ Watt tweeted. Anytime you can publicly
Speaker 1: take a dig at your star quarterback and your star
Speaker 1: pass rushers simultaneously right before the season begins, you just
Speaker 1: gotta take it. Nothing makes guys want to fight for
Speaker 1: you more than hearing how upset you are they got
Speaker 1: hurt while how upset you are that they got hurt
Speaker 1: while fighting for you, and JJ Watt retweets it or
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, JJ Watt writes it, Micah retweets it, and
Speaker 1: so it's just unnecessary, and all of this is unnecessary,
Speaker 1: and it's just they're just bad at the business part
Speaker 1: of this. Cowboys are pretty good at drafting, very good
Speaker 1: at marketing, well above average at actual football historically, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean even over the last five years or whatever,
Speaker 1: and just bad at the business part of it. And
Speaker 1: there's no getting around that. All right, Let's get to
Speaker 1: the Lions.
Speaker 3: The Lions are confident this is the year that they
Speaker 3: get over the hump, with David Montgomery calling it their
Speaker 3: year of reckoning.
Speaker 2: How do you see this season going for Detroit?
Speaker 1: I'd be a little nervous, demanse, So here's so listen.
Speaker 1: I don't think I think they have too much talent
Speaker 1: to be bad. But here are the to me ominous signs,
Speaker 1: so to speak. First, one is one that always matters.
Speaker 1: Lost both coordinators, Like that is one that during a
Speaker 1: season when a team is struggling, we're like, oh, change coordinators,
Speaker 1: but we don't do a good enough job in the
Speaker 1: offseason of you know what I mean. Reminding folks lost
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, lost Ben Johnson, So that to me is
Speaker 1: first concern. Second concern, their center retired. They lost their
Speaker 1: best guard in free agency, so it looks like they're
Speaker 1: gonna slide their worst offensive lineman who was their right
Speaker 1: guard last year whatever guard Zeitler wasn't over to center,
Speaker 1: and then be starting a second year, sixth round pick
Speaker 1: and probably a rookie second round pick at their two
Speaker 1: guard spots. So they wear offensive line has been maybe
Speaker 1: their single biggest position of strength as of you know,
Speaker 1: in this Jared Goff Dan Campbell era. Now that interior
Speaker 1: of the offensive line might be the biggest weakness of
Speaker 1: the team, and that can nothing makes Jared Goff go
Speaker 1: from man. Jared Goff has been really good to Pumpkin mode,
Speaker 1: like up the middle pressure because he just doesn't have
Speaker 1: the athleticism to escape or be creative if it's on
Speaker 1: time and it's what it's supposed to see, he's really good.
Speaker 1: But if you can get pressure on him up the middle,
Speaker 1: it can be really deadly for him. And so that's
Speaker 1: a concern. The tougher division this year, to me is
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say tougher because last year it was really good.
Speaker 1: The Vikings were excellent, Packers were good. But again, another
Speaker 1: tough division. That's concerning. And here's the other piece to
Speaker 1: mind for a team last year that was fifteen and two.
Speaker 1: Here's they're opening seven games, which is before their bye
Speaker 1: at the Packers home for the Bears, Ben Johnson at
Speaker 1: the Ravens home for the Browns, layup at Sincy at
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, home for the bucks Man. And by the way,
Speaker 1: it's just a schedule that you never can take a
Speaker 1: breath like. There's their first seven, then a bye week,
Speaker 1: then home for Tampa, home for the Vikings, at the
Speaker 1: Commanders at the Eagles, home for the Giants, Okay, home
Speaker 1: for the Packers, home for the Cowboys at the Rams,
Speaker 1: home for the Steelers, Okay at the Vikings at the Bears.
Speaker 1: And so could I see the Lions going from fifteen
Speaker 1: and two and the one seed to ten and seven
Speaker 1: in a wild card. Absolutely, and so I think they're good.
Speaker 1: I think they're talented. Gibbs is a star. Having Hutchinson
Speaker 1: back will be great, But I don't look. I think
Speaker 1: the Lions losing both coordinators, the loss of the offensive
Speaker 1: lineman that they've had, I still feel like they. I'm
Speaker 1: not as big on Jamison Williams as maybe others are.
Speaker 1: I wonder how that horrific playoff game has sat with
Speaker 1: golf all off season. I wonder how back to back
Speaker 1: years of just gut punch postseason losses, you know, has
Speaker 1: sat with them. All of that is concerning to me.
Speaker 1: And in that loss last year was we had a
Speaker 1: graphic on the TV show yesterday of number one seeds
Speaker 1: the last decade to lose their first home playoff game,
Speaker 1: and it was the the Cowboys Dax rookie year. The
Speaker 1: ravens Lamar's first year is a full time starter, the
Speaker 1: Titans with Tannehill and the Packers with Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 1: that his second to last year, there in the crazy
Speaker 1: like thirteen to ten game or whatever in the snow
Speaker 1: against San Francisco so, by the way, three of those
Speaker 1: teams the next year missed the playoffs. The Ravens made
Speaker 1: the playoffs and lost in the divisional round. Like, so,
Speaker 1: you have a seventeen point lead in the conference championship game,
Speaker 1: you blow it. You come back the next year, you're
Speaker 1: even better year the one seed and a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: comes to your stadium and waxes you and your quarterback
Speaker 1: plays his worst game in a couple of years. That's
Speaker 1: all ominous if you ask me for the Lion. Uh
Speaker 1: do you think that's fair? I know you think you
Speaker 1: thought I'm a little too low on the Lions historically.
Speaker 3: Oh well, no, I do think that. I mean you
Speaker 3: said they lost their their interior linement. But just just
Speaker 3: jerick Off as well, Like I thought, it's like a
Speaker 3: I don't want to say ominous limitation to win in
Speaker 3: the super Bowl. It's what it sounds like they're talking about.
Speaker 3: And like you need to see him, you know, win
Speaker 3: that playoff game or like that was a rookie that
Speaker 3: you got that done too by But but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was, and it was I mean Washington
Speaker 1: just they were outlaw flast them that game. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and that was the Lion. Now, the Lions defense was banged,
Speaker 1: devastated by injury, and we know that. But I also
Speaker 1: I am a little worried what version of Aiden Hutchinson
Speaker 1: we're gonna see at least at the beginning of the year.
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Speaker 1: thing before we get some basketball and get out of here.
Speaker 1: And some listener questions, so go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the NFL is a month away, so it's
Speaker 3: time to talk futures. Is there anything that you see
Speaker 3: on the horizons that you like? Division Super Bowl winner syrds.
Speaker 1: Listen, we're gonna do our full blown gambling show, you know,
Speaker 1: late August, and it really when if you're new to
Speaker 1: the pod this year, you know, in the last few months,
Speaker 1: football's when we really cook. We got our gambling shows.
Speaker 1: We got a lot. Demon's a is dialed where I
Speaker 1: am still by the way, Uh Connor and Paul out
Speaker 1: are friends with the volume and with DraftKings, if we
Speaker 1: could send DraftKings this official on the record plea, I
Speaker 1: do not by the way I'm putting this out there.
Speaker 1: This is this is what we would call a value.
Speaker 1: Add I don't want a single extra dollar in our
Speaker 1: wonderful partnership with DraftKings. Is that what I'm looking for?
Speaker 1: But if we could, in addition to in football season,
Speaker 1: when you know I'll give you my five plays of
Speaker 1: the week, if we could also have a bonus thing
Speaker 1: and maybe even create a cool little graphic like we
Speaker 1: have for mine one teaser a week. We have to
Speaker 1: come up with a snappy name for it. But if
Speaker 1: people don't know Demons last year, I think hit like
Speaker 1: seven in a row. He's turned into a bit of
Speaker 1: a teaser expert. If we could have somewhere, I don't
Speaker 1: care if it's buried, I don't care if you have
Speaker 1: to click seventeen different links to get into it. Somewhere
Speaker 1: on there Demanse's NFL Teaser of the Week. It would
Speaker 1: really be a s actual moment for this podcast. So
Speaker 1: all that's coming go ahead.
Speaker 3: I mean, that'd be like my one of my greatest
Speaker 3: achievements outside Hidden seventy threes in a row one time
Speaker 3: it does.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did. That's a sidebar. We can get
Speaker 1: to that in a minute. But uh, it would be great,
Speaker 1: And it would also be awesome for some of Demonse's
Speaker 1: high school and college buddies who are regular DraftKings users
Speaker 1: for them to be scrolling and to see the demands teaser.
Speaker 1: It would really it would. It would be awesome. And
Speaker 1: so we're pulling over. In the meantime, there is one
Speaker 1: bet that I think the odds are going to shift
Speaker 1: because I think this team is going to become a
Speaker 1: popular sleeper pick. And I have no lawyer. If you
Speaker 1: will when it comes to gambling, now, I obviously will.
Speaker 1: There are certain things I won't do, like I won't
Speaker 1: bet against the Chiefs, but it doesn't mean I bet
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs every time. A couple years ago, I
Speaker 1: told you guys one of my favorite preseason win totals
Speaker 1: was the Broncos over five and a half wins. I
Speaker 1: can't stand the Broncos, and by the way, I think
Speaker 1: they're one of the most overrated teams in the league
Speaker 1: this year. It actually kind of plays into why I
Speaker 1: like this bet, but I thought that they were great
Speaker 1: value over five and a half wins. They ended up
Speaker 1: winning I think eight games, the sixth longest odds of
Speaker 1: any team to make the playoffs, far worse odds than
Speaker 1: the Panthers, better odds than only the Titans, the Jets,
Speaker 1: the Giants, the Saints, and the Browns are a team
Speaker 1: that I believe is going to make the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: I believe these odds are going to it. Between now
Speaker 1: and the start of the year, drop from plus three
Speaker 1: point thirty to like plus two ninety. And that is
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders. The Las Vegas Raiders going from
Speaker 1: a head coach in Antonio Pierce that was just out
Speaker 1: of his depth to Pete Carroll going from maybe the
Speaker 1: worst quarterback situation in the league to Gino Smith with
Speaker 1: Brock Bowers in year two and Ashton genty in year
Speaker 1: one and Carol coaching up that secondary and a last
Speaker 1: place schedule that includes games against This is not just
Speaker 1: all strength of schedule games, but on the Raiders schedule
Speaker 1: are the Patriots, the Titans, the Browns, the Giants, the U.
Speaker 1: I skipped over a couple, oh well, ones that I
Speaker 1: won't necessarily think are easy, but you guys might The Bears,
Speaker 1: the Jags, the Texans late in the year, a team
Speaker 1: that I worry about a bit, four games against maybe
Speaker 1: these slightly overrated Chargers and the considerably overrated Broncos. Did
Speaker 1: I mention the Colts game in there? They have on
Speaker 1: their entire schedule aside from the Chiefs game. Oh, they
Speaker 1: play the Cowboys. Like here's the Raiders' schedule, Patriots, Chargers, Commanders, Bears, Colts, Titans, Chiefs, Jags, Broncos, Cowboys, Browns, Chargers, Broncos, Eagles, Texans, Giants, Chiefs.
Speaker 1: They have three monster games Chiefs and Eagles, five simple
Speaker 1: games in my opinion, And in nine we'll see games
Speaker 1: that team absolutely can get to nine or ten wins
Speaker 1: and sneak into the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And and if the Chiefs are in a good state
Speaker 3: of that year at that time of the year, it
Speaker 3: could be a free game for them.
Speaker 1: Well that's the other thing. If you are in the
Speaker 1: AFC West, you always hope that one of your two
Speaker 1: Chiefs games is that week seventeen Chiefs game, because about
Speaker 1: half the time the Chiefs are resting people that week,
Speaker 1: half the time they got to go for it, like
Speaker 1: it could be bad let where oh man, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: need this game for you know, playoff positioning. But about
Speaker 1: half the time they have everything locked.
Speaker 3: The Chiefs pretty well anyways too, I feel like.
Speaker 1: Sometimes yeah yeah, and they beat them on Christmas two
Speaker 1: years ago. So the Raiders plus three point thirty to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. That is my early first NFL season
Speaker 1: long bet. All right, Demonse, Let's go to the NBA.
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart is the newest Laker.
Speaker 3: He's been bought out by the Wizards, and he's gonna
Speaker 3: play with me playing with him next year. How do
Speaker 3: you see him fitting in with this, this new version
Speaker 3: of the Lakers. I'll say, like five years ago, Lebron
Speaker 3: would have.
Speaker 2: Been pissed playing off playing with Marcus Smart.
Speaker 1: Okay, but what do you You're You're to call you
Speaker 1: a Marcus Smart guy?
Speaker 2: No, do you?
Speaker 3: I'm not like a Marcus Smart guy. I didn't dislike him.
Speaker 3: I didn't love him.
Speaker 2: Like he was he was, he was viable. I like
Speaker 2: his scrappiness.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just curious, like what his role would
Speaker 3: be over there with the Lakers.
Speaker 1: So listen depth defense. Obviously that's his role here. For
Speaker 1: the money they're paying him, it's fine. I I would
Speaker 1: be very surprised if he is a real difference maker. However,
Speaker 1: the hope would be that with Memphis and Washington bad
Speaker 1: fit and then Washington's not trying for anything, and that
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, he's reinvigorated. The concern
Speaker 1: is very simple, Demonsey. It's that he is a very
Speaker 1: old thirty one. That the concern is because of his
Speaker 1: style of play, that he has, you know, aged much
Speaker 1: more quickly than you would have liked, and because of
Speaker 1: his toughness, how many charges he's taken. All of that,
Speaker 1: and that even at just thirty one, he's on the
Speaker 1: significant downside. But credit where it's due. The Lakers adding
Speaker 1: eight and smart without giving up anything of real substance,
Speaker 1: even though they did lose Dorian Finney Smith. It's not
Speaker 1: a bad that the off season is ticking closer to
Speaker 1: a decent one.
Speaker 3: And go ahead and then like, do you think maybe
Speaker 3: they'll get rid of Austin Reeves to get even more
Speaker 3: stuff or probably gonna have it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's I think they really like Austin.
Speaker 1: I think Austin's a little redundant with Luca plus Lebron,
Speaker 1: but it's possible they look at it, like, we only
Speaker 1: have one more year of Lebron, so you know, we
Speaker 1: want to have a second ball handler other than just Luca.
Speaker 1: What the Lakers do have, and this is I don't
Speaker 1: think it's going to happen in the preseason, in the
Speaker 1: off season, but during the regular season, what they do
Speaker 1: have is the expiring contracts of Maxi, Kliba, Gabe, Vincent, Jackson, Hayes,
Speaker 1: all of which those got those combine for twenty five million.
Speaker 1: If you were to add Ruis to it, then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it combines to like forty million. Art
Speaker 1: would the Lakers during the regular season use some of
Speaker 1: those expiring deals to try to go get what plus
Speaker 1: a draft pick or two, to try to go get
Speaker 1: one more piece? And the answer to that is maybe,
Speaker 1: And I think so. I think that they have left it.
Speaker 1: They've been able to kind of manicure around the edges
Speaker 1: without moving any picks or moving any expiring contracts, and
Speaker 1: so more moves could be coming pending on the you know,
Speaker 1: Lebron still being awesome, Luca being healthy, and how close
Speaker 1: they think they are to winning a championship this year.
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Speaker 1: So that's the other thing, Dalton Connect. One of the
Speaker 1: reasons he fell in the draft was he you know,
Speaker 1: he was a four year college player. He's twenty four
Speaker 1: years old, having played in the NBA for a year,
Speaker 1: and he struggled mightily in summer league. And he was
Speaker 1: ten points a game. He didn't shoot it well at
Speaker 1: all from three, and maybe it's just you know, all
Speaker 1: sample sized three point variants, but he was five for
Speaker 1: twenty one from three. Didn't do much else. And now
Speaker 1: you worry that when Connect probably had the value of,
Speaker 1: you know, around where he was drafted, like you know,
Speaker 1: maybe not after a year contract gone, you hoped he
Speaker 1: had the value of like a late first round pick
Speaker 1: in a trade. I don't know that he does anymore.
Speaker 1: And so that like, so while Bronni was a positive
Speaker 1: in summer League for the Lakers, I think Connect was
Speaker 1: a negative. All right. Before we get to listener questions,
Speaker 1: a few things. Just count me in demanday as someone
Speaker 1: that's not going to believe in the Clippers for the
Speaker 1: sixth straight year. What do you mean?
Speaker 3: I mean they just what do you mean? Do they
Speaker 3: will take whatever? Like it just seems like they just
Speaker 3: take a bunch of big names so they can stay relevant.
Speaker 3: It's like they just might be about rights.
Speaker 1: Such an old team. Yeah, I mean Brooke and Kawhi
Speaker 1: and James and now and listen, CB three played all
Speaker 1: eighty two last year, so you can credit for that.
Speaker 1: But he's not an impactful player.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see him stay with Wimby if I'm
Speaker 2: being honest.
Speaker 1: Well, they have too many guards though, now yeah, because
Speaker 1: the guarded for Fox, they have Castle and they just
Speaker 1: drafted Harbor, so I don't mind him going back. It's
Speaker 1: not like this is a bad move. But it's just
Speaker 1: the same old folks whoever year like watch out for
Speaker 1: the Clippers. They're saying it again, and that's surprising to me.
Speaker 1: All right, before reminder, like rate subscribe review, some of
Speaker 1: the listeners want to know about the seventy three point shots.
Speaker 1: Uh the how many?
Speaker 2: Uh? How many do you think that was?
Speaker 3: I don't know how many it was in a role,
Speaker 3: but I just remember it was one hundred threes. I
Speaker 3: probably we missed like the first six or seven or
Speaker 3: something like that. It was like one for six or
Speaker 3: one for seven like that, and I think it finished
Speaker 3: either like eighty two or eighty four of one hundred,
Speaker 3: So I don't know, you got any was, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: You've got it. So Demanse was doing an impromptu, uh
Speaker 1: maybe against some of the rules, tryout for a junior
Speaker 1: college team that will remain nameless, and they it was
Speaker 1: supposed to just kind of be just like an interview,
Speaker 1: get to know you thing, and then they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't you go out and you know, warm up
Speaker 1: a bit or whatever, and then they had you take
Speaker 1: one hundred threes twenty from each spot corner, wing, top
Speaker 1: of the key corner or wing corner right. And I
Speaker 1: was in the gym and Demonse missed six of his
Speaker 1: first seven, and I was sick, like for not for me,
Speaker 1: but I was sick for him. And then in the
Speaker 1: so he was one for seven and then in the
Speaker 1: next ninety three went eighty three of ninety three, because
Speaker 1: you finished with eighty four, and so I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, what was your longest streak in a row
Speaker 1: of you know, without a miss I think it was
Speaker 1: probably you know, twenty something.
Speaker 3: And I just wanted to be known. Thompson was out
Speaker 3: there shooting just regular threes. This had the big.
Speaker 2: Net up like shooting the ball.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was a little extra degree difficulty.
Speaker 1: There, little extra degree. Also you were kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: thought playing for your basketball life and had missed you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and started off shaky. It was
Speaker 1: one of the cool So you at the end you
Speaker 1: made eighty three of ninety three. And I think, if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, I said to you when we were
Speaker 1: walking out, like at one point you made forty five
Speaker 1: of forty six, like you know what I mean once
Speaker 1: and so so I think you're probably your best seventy.
Speaker 1: If we were to grab them, you were like sixty
Speaker 1: six of seventy or something.
Speaker 2: But that makes sense. It was it was like it was.
Speaker 3: I was flustered in the beginning and then but yeah,
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know if I've ever take that
Speaker 3: many shots in a row like that was all.
Speaker 1: Right, Let's get to some listener questions quick.
Speaker 3: Eric says, last week, you said you'd add Derek Thomas
Speaker 3: to this current Chiefs team in it and add any
Speaker 3: former player situation for the Chiefs. Would you consider will Sheds,
Speaker 3: will Shields or Willie Rofe to bolster.
Speaker 1: O Willie Rope I hadn't thought about Willie Roape be
Speaker 1: pretty unbelievable. If you could just get you know, one
Speaker 1: of the greatest left tackles ever to guard Mahomes blindside,
Speaker 1: that'd be pretty great, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, Tyler asked, do you think Jayden Daniels is on
Speaker 3: a crash course to the next Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Next Mahomes too much?
Speaker 2: Homes?
Speaker 1: Well, their different stylistically and body types obviously, and Jaden's awesome,
Speaker 1: but next Mahomes too much? If yes or two, you know,
Speaker 1: he would have to either win League MVP or Super
Speaker 1: Bowl this year and then he's kind of on pace.
Speaker 1: I think that'd be very tough and maybe you could
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 3: Next uh Danny asked if Patrick Mahomes did not exist,
Speaker 3: which current NFL quarterback would you want on the team.
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen's the second best quarterback, but I
Speaker 1: do you have to like men in black neuralizer me
Speaker 1: about you know, my history with Josh Allen. So my
Speaker 1: answer is probably Caleb because I still think Caleb is
Speaker 1: going to be a superstar.
Speaker 3: Next as she asked, what are people finally going to
Speaker 3: stop bloone things that are proportion whenever Clark's names comes up.
Speaker 1: I mean that once once they change the way social
Speaker 1: media and search engine algorithms or uh work like that.
Speaker 1: It's just you just get too much engagement. That's why.
Speaker 1: Uh all right.
Speaker 3: Next, Jeremy says, hey, Nick's speaking of labor relations. Curious
Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts and reactions to the NFL nflpa's
Speaker 3: dumpster fire the last few weeks. Or is that not
Speaker 3: allowed because of pablotory.
Speaker 1: No, it's allowed. Credit words to Pablo and Mike Florio,
Speaker 1: but most only Pablo did a truly spectacular job with
Speaker 1: that story, and they affected real change, and it was
Speaker 1: it was, you know, real journalism. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was great. I mentioned it, I talked about on the
Speaker 1: TV show. The NFLPA has got to get its act together?
Speaker 1: Is the short version of it? I I you know,
Speaker 1: I that is that story deserves way more attention than
Speaker 1: just that one line. Maybe we'll talk more about it
Speaker 1: Thursday if we have time. But it's embarrassing kind of
Speaker 1: and I'm glad Lloyd Howell resigned, and I'm glad jac
Speaker 1: tried to resigned and really good job by Pablo and Mike.
Speaker 3: Next, ass, do you think the mahomes can be the goat?
Speaker 3: With five Super Bowl wins? You already thinks Mahomes is
Speaker 3: the Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. He's the most talented and best
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, but Brady's the goat. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: ain't that, I don't. I guess there's I think the
Speaker 1: question is does he have to get to seven for
Speaker 1: him to be considered the best ever? And no, I
Speaker 1: don't think he has to get to seven.
Speaker 3: Next it clips as when is when is tennis Corner
Speaker 3: coming back?
Speaker 1: Uh? For the US Open. I'll just be honest. I
Speaker 1: didn't watch as much Wimbledon as I have in years
Speaker 1: past because of travel, so I I couldn't really do
Speaker 1: tennis Corner, but I'll be at US Open and so
Speaker 1: it'll come back for the US Open. All right, great job.
Speaker 1: Demon's a regular podcast schedule this week. We'll be back
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