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Speaker 2: That for me. I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy. You want to be happy for a day

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Speaker 3: at the stake?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Woo woom?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the suburbo one and all.

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Speaker 4: I'm bringing back the old intro, Dan, trying to give

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Speaker 4: it a part of Yeah, trying to give us a shot

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Speaker 4: of life here because as the season goes on, we

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Speaker 4: of course do these late night streams on Saturday or

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Speaker 4: react to all the action that was, and much like

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Speaker 4: an actual football season, physically, for you and I in

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Speaker 4: our fifth decades of life, it takes a little bit

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Speaker 4: longer each week, a little bit longer each week to

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Speaker 4: recharge and get back up to one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: So sure, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Trying to fake it until we make it here on

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Speaker 4: this Tuesday spillover.

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Speaker 1: Episode, my friend Dan rubinste welcome back.

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Speaker 3: How are your due to go to Germany for some

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Speaker 3: platelet rich plasma therapy? Right, That's what people of our

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Speaker 3: age tend to do when they need that extra boost.

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Speaker 3: Just us and Freddie Couples. Man, I think Kobe did

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Speaker 3: that in his knee. I think Christian McCaffrey was rumored.

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Speaker 3: All of the greats tie Dan, Christian McCaffrey, Frederick Couples. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant, I'm doing good, Ty, I can't complain. Life

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Speaker 3: is all right. We have a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Coaches are coming in and out of the sport. We've

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Speaker 3: not given enough attention to, and tie breakers. I am

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Speaker 3: sending off the sec tie breaking situation to our friends

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Speaker 3: at Caltech to really help me out. As far as

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Speaker 3: I can tell, it's probably Alabama and the winner of

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Speaker 3: Texas Texas A and M, but I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know feels that way. Yeah. So on today's episode, like

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Speaker 1: you said.

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Speaker 4: A bunch of spillover topics, some things that we didn't

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Speaker 4: get a chance to unpack what we did do this

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Speaker 4: Saturday night, Week twelve reaction stream. But also in addition,

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Speaker 4: we put out this call on Forballers dot Com our Patreon. Yes,

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Speaker 4: every Sunday morning around nine am, we include the link

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Speaker 4: to vote in the Verballer Pole, which will unveil here

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Speaker 4: on this episode, and we ask people give us some topics,

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Speaker 4: some topics you want us to address. It's part of

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Speaker 4: our promise to the verbowler hood that we will do

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Speaker 4: this right. I am picking up real notes of Hey, guys,

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Speaker 4: just put together like an updated, updated list of who

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Speaker 1: So I have done this on my own in the past.

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Speaker 4: Today I thought maybe we could kind of combine our

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Speaker 4: verbal bracket, our projected bracket for the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: If that's cool with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I was.

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Speaker 3: I was happy that the topics were related to college

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Speaker 3: glad the topics were limited. And you know, I wasn't

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm told Northern white Cedar Tye white Cedar is

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Speaker 2: That's all I have.

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Speaker 1: Let's do some news.

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Speaker 4: We've got a new Verbawler top twelve pole hot off

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Speaker 4: the press is Dan. Here's the way it shakes out.

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Speaker 4: At number twelve, your my SMU Mustangs. At number eleven,

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Speaker 1: At nine, we've got Georgia at eight.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we've reached.

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Speaker 4: The stage in the season where you have any hot takes,

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Speaker 3: I'm still a Penn State skeptics, just because their opponents

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm not glad BYU lost, but I don't have

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Speaker 3: How could you say that BYU is the most beatable

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Speaker 1: That is correct?

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Speaker 3: Of apologies from BYU fans who were upset, and they're like, Dan,

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Speaker 3: It all seems fine, It all seems fine. I'm not

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Speaker 3: He is, it's what eight year, sixty four million dollars.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the buyout language is. Indiana has

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Speaker 3: don't know what kind of financial handcuff. It is he

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Speaker 3: I just I worry for Indiana people that Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 4: Wisconsin has fired Phil long Goo saw that the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: It is the largest stadium project in the history of

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Speaker 4: Back at the Kansas BYU game Kansas seventeen BYU thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what I mean, look when we had divisions and

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Speaker 1: Outside of the BYU Kansas game.

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Speaker 4: The first one for me is that Iowa State won

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Speaker 4: Iowa State's the one that needs the most help in

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Speaker 4: order to get into that title game. What they need

442
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Speaker 4: in order for it to happen, they need BYU to

443
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Speaker 4: beat ASU.

444
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Speaker 1: And knock them out of contention.

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Speaker 4: They also need Colorado to lose one otherwise it's not

446
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Speaker 4: happened to for Iowa State. If Colorado is going to lose,

447
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Speaker 4: it's probably this week against Kansas. I doubt it's going

448
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Speaker 4: to be the following week.

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Speaker 3: What would you say is the best potential competitive entertainment

450
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Speaker 3: game possible atop the Big Twelve, in the championship game entertaining. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 3: we're like, what is the best possibility for thirty four

452
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Speaker 3: to thirty one?

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Speaker 1: Probably Iowa State against Colorado, That's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that's gonna happen.

455
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either.

456
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Speaker 3: Arizona State makes it interesting, and you can say they

457
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Speaker 3: control their own path, right.

458
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Speaker 4: Yes, Arizona State right now controls its own Big twelve destiny.

459
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Speaker 4: And it is wild to be here and say that. Yeah,

460
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Speaker 4: but it is a one hundred percent true. If they

461
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Speaker 4: went out, the worst that they can do is finish

462
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Speaker 4: in a tie for second place, and they would own

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Speaker 4: that tiebreaker. So winning out involves a big win this

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Speaker 4: weekend over BYU. They have that game in Tempe at home,

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Speaker 4: But if they win the remaining two games first off

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Speaker 4: ten and two, Arizona State would be something yes. Secondly,

467
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Speaker 4: getting into that game would be something entirely separate. And

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Speaker 4: I would go a step further and say that kind

469
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Speaker 4: of on the heels of our discussion where we're going

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Speaker 4: to project our joint bracket. Here, if a team like

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Speaker 4: in Arizona State that currently is ranked very low in

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Speaker 4: the polls ends up winning a conference championship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Not only does that unlock the scenario that I talked

475
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Speaker 4: about on the last episode where truly a team like

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Speaker 4: a Boyse could end up getting a first round by

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Speaker 4: wouldn't I think in this case end up getting a

478
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Speaker 4: first round by Yeah, either them or too Lane would

479
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Speaker 4: get it in that event. But also because a team

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Speaker 4: that is way out of the top twelve ends up

481
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Speaker 4: with an automatic bid in by virtue of winning a

482
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Speaker 4: power conference, that then would basically knock the number twelve

483
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Speaker 4: team out. And that's got real ramifications if you think

484
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Speaker 4: about it broadly. Maybe that team is Ohio State. If

485
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Speaker 4: Indiana were to get a win this weekend, you could

486
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Speaker 4: see a world in which a team like Ohio State

487
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Speaker 4: drops all the way down to number twelve. In the

488
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Speaker 4: event that Arizona State comes out of nowhere and wins

489
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Speaker 4: their title, Arizona State is given a pathway in. Whoever

490
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Speaker 4: number twelve is seemingly would drop off that list right

491
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Speaker 4: because you would need to fit somebody else in. So

492
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Speaker 4: could be a very odd circumstance set unfolds if ASU

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Speaker 4: continues on this run.

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Speaker 3: There's also it should be noted when you look at

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Speaker 3: the teams that are directly ahead of Arizona State. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of opportunity for let's say Arizona State wins out.

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Speaker 3: So that's what beating BYU in Arizona for ASU, they

498
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Speaker 3: could vault pretty dramatically just because of everybody ahead of them.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's playing very losable games absolutely between like twenty one

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Speaker 3: and fourteen somewhere in there, right Texas A and M

501
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Speaker 3: has Texas, Colorado finishes with Oklahoma State. Colorado should be

502
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Speaker 3: in a decent position. But Clemson has South Carolina, Army

503
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Speaker 3: has Notre Dame. South Carolina has Clemson. So one of

504
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Speaker 3: those teams is going to have at least a third loss.

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Speaker 3: There's just there's opportunity there for a lot of chaos

506
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Speaker 3: in that even like ten to twenty two range these

507
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Speaker 3: last couple weeks.

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Speaker 1: So that's the first thing we talk about.

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Speaker 4: I will stay, we talk about Arizona State, and we'll

510
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Speaker 4: talk about more of that.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned to Illinois earlier. I just wanted to call out.

512
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Speaker 4: So Illinois won thirty eight to sixteen over Michigan State.

513
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Speaker 4: You liked Illinois a lot going into that one. Yep,

514
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Speaker 4: in hindsight, probably should have locked it up because they

515
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Speaker 4: won going away of note here, just shout out Illinois.

516
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Speaker 4: This is the first time Illinois has won six home

517
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Speaker 4: games in a season dating back to two thousand and one.

518
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Speaker 1: The drive to Local six. Yeah, drive to Local six.

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Speaker 1: It's a big deal for them. It's a big deal

520
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: for Bett Bielma. I mentioned this earlier as well. But

521
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Speaker 1: it's also a very big deal to Penn State because

522
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Speaker 1: Illinois could very well.

523
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Speaker 4: Finish as a nine to three team. They could easily

524
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Speaker 4: find their way into the top twenty of the final rankings.

525
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Speaker 4: Right now, if you'll get Bowl projections some over at ESPN,

526
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Speaker 4: have them go into the Citrus Bowl against Texas A

527
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Speaker 4: and M. This is a team that I don't know

528
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Speaker 4: if you or I are all that high on the Illini,

529
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Speaker 4: but by virtue of their final record and like you said,

530
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Speaker 4: teams in front of them playing very losable games, Illinois

531
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Speaker 4: is gonna find its way up in the rankings and

532
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Speaker 4: that's going to prop up Penn State a little bit.

533
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Speaker 1: It's gonna prop up Penn State.

534
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Speaker 4: A little bit in a world in which their schedule

535
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Speaker 4: has not been nearly as difficult as it has been

536
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Speaker 4: in past seasons. That Illinois win for Penn State's doing

537
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Speaker 4: a lot of heavy lifting. Not to say that Penn

538
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Speaker 4: State doesn't belong I think they do, but that Illinois

539
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: win is going to help them out more than I

540
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Speaker 4: thought initially met the eye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Minnesota. If Penn State beats Minnesota, we'll see

542
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Speaker 3: what that does for their resume as well. But yeah,

543
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Speaker 3: Illinois has been a terrific story. Pat Bryant is very

544
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Speaker 3: quietly putting together like a third team ish All Big

545
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Speaker 3: Ten receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's a receiver, man.

547
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Speaker 3: I don't even know if they award a thirteen, but

548
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Speaker 3: he's an honorable mention borderline second team All Big Ten

549
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Speaker 3: type receiver. He's been very good for them. Luke Altmeyer

550
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: has been far more mistake free than he was last season.

551
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Speaker 3: Like it's just if they can figure out line play

552
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: more consistently on both sides, it's the ball Illinois becomes,

553
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Speaker 3: I don't know, kind of fun and dangerous, just like

554
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Speaker 3: you Ti, just like your reputation.

555
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Speaker 1: Way it is, man, that's the way it is. Another one.

556
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Speaker 1: We have not talked at all about North Carolina this season,

557
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Speaker 1: like at all.

558
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Speaker 2: That's true.

559
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Speaker 4: We haven't had great reason to do so. But UNC

560
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 4: right now sitting at six and four. They've got a

561
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Speaker 4: game against Boston College and NC State to close out

562
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Speaker 4: the year. What I find interesting about some of the

563
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Speaker 4: bowl projections I looked at right now, They're projected to

564
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Speaker 4: go to the Military Bowl against Navy.

565
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Speaker 1: Neither team can stop the run.

566
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Speaker 4: Both can run, neither team can stop it, which would

567
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Speaker 4: make for an interesting matchup.

568
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Speaker 1: I think to say that lead, I.

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Speaker 4: Would pick NC personally, Okay, I like Omari and Hampton

570
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: A ran for two forty four this past weekend. Monster

571
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 4: looks to be the second best running back on the

572
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Speaker 4: draft board behind Ashton Gent but UNC going eight and

573
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Speaker 4: four this season despite the fact that, you know, we

574
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Speaker 4: haven't had a whole lot of reason to talk about them,

575
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 4: and for a chunk of the season at least, I

576
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Speaker 4: think the only context in which we did mention them

577
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Speaker 4: was hey, mac Brown should probably leave now it eight

578
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Speaker 4: and four seasons not bad in my opinion.

579
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Speaker 3: No, their defense has quietly gotten competent, and it's you know,

580
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: come against some less than stellar offenses in the ACC.

581
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Speaker 3: But they weren't always stopping those teams before either, So

582
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Speaker 3: I think quiet competence. I don't know if you can

583
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Speaker 3: put that on a T shirt and there's an NC

584
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Speaker 3: in there right in competence. Quiet competence with North Carolina

585
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: is worthwhile, and they have a chance to finish eight

586
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: and four, as you mentioned, go to a bowl game.

587
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Speaker 3: Jacoby Criswell has come in nicely. So no, really really

588
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: nice year for UNC. I don't know if that's the standard.

589
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much longer Mac Brown is going

590
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Speaker 3: to be there. I saw somewhere that he's telling recruits

591
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: he'll be back next year. Seventy three, seventy four years old.

592
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Speaker 3: So a nice story bouncing back, especially with the the

593
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Speaker 3: low light going down to James Madison like they did.

594
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Speaker 4: The only other thing I have here on my list

595
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Speaker 4: just because you know I'm the crazy tiebreaker guy on

596
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Speaker 4: the show. Please and I want to give credit where

597
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: it's due. David Briggs from The Toledo Blade wrote this up.

598
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Speaker 4: There is potential for a six way first place tie.

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Speaker 1: In the Mac give it all to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Miami, Ohio, and Ohio Okay, a little confusing

601
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Speaker 4: Bowling Green, Western, Michigan, Buffalo and Toledo could all finish

602
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Speaker 4: with a six and two conference.

603
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Speaker 2: Record, at which point we'd have to.

604
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Speaker 4: Go all the way down to a fifth tiebreaker, and

605
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Speaker 4: at least per the way David wrote it up, it

606
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Speaker 4: would look like Toledo versus Miami in a rematch of

607
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Speaker 4: the mac of last year's back title game.

608
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Speaker 3: Toledo against Miami with all those tiebreakers is once again

609
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Speaker 3: what we'd have correct. That'd be great, that'd be wonderful.

610
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Speaker 3: I love mass chaos A top any and all conferences.

611
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Speaker 3: I mentioned the SEC one. I don't fully understand it,

612
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Speaker 3: but I think what I said that was right, that

613
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Speaker 3: the winner of Texas, Texas A and m against Alabama

614
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Speaker 3: seems to be in terms of odds likelihood what we're

615
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Speaker 3: looking at right now because of tie rankers.

616
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Speaker 2: Is that true?

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Speaker 1: That's right?

618
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Speaker 3: And in the ACC, if Clemson is to get in,

619
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Speaker 3: they need Miami to lose.

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Speaker 1: They would need a Miami loss.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but with a Miami loss they're likely in.

622
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Speaker 2: I believe they are in.

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Speaker 1: I believe so. Yeah.

624
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Speaker 4: They have finished their conference play at this right they're done.

625
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Speaker 4: They have sort of waiting.

626
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Speaker 3: Around Citadel and South Carolina. Big ten. Penn State needs

627
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Speaker 3: either Michigan to beat Ohio State or Produe to beat Indiana.

628
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Speaker 3: If Ohio State beats Indiana.

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Speaker 1: If Ohio State beats Indiana, yeah, okay.

630
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Speaker 3: So Penn State's probably in a nice position like Indiana

631
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Speaker 3: where they can win a bunch of games, not have

632
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Speaker 3: to play Oregon, Ohio State or Ohio State once again

633
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Speaker 3: in that case, and kind of find themselves as like

634
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Speaker 3: the nine or ten seed in the college weall playoff, right, likely.

635
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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, Okay.

636
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Speaker 4: I think the other higher. I think they finished higher

637
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: than that. But yeah, they're gonna go oh yeah, I mean.

638
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Speaker 3: They could definitely finish go eleven and one with comfortable

639
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: wins to finish out the air. Maybe they're six seven

640
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: seats somewhere in there.

641
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Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, all right.

642
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Speaker 4: What jumped out to you from this past week? Yeah?

643
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Speaker 3: Uh, I rewatched ASU Kansas State, and.

644
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: I just, I don't know.

645
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: I really like Kenny Dillingham. I really like him in game.

646
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: I really like how this team plays in game. I

647
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: really like how even with Kansas State, you know, trying

648
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: to come back and obviously there's the interception that seals

649
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: things at the end, they're already down ten and that

650
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: you know, waning seconds. I don't know, I just if

651
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: they can put together some recruiting classes, ASU becomes really

652
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: interesting to me in the Big twelve I really like

653
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: Sam Levitt. I thought he looked just way more comfortable

654
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: in this kind of spot than Avery Johnson in the

655
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: pocket stepping up into pressure.

656
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

657
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Speaker 3: I just came away super impressed with ASU, and I

658
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: messaged you this earlier that there's a possibility that college football,

659
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: the forces that are college football, could kill the Pac

660
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: twelve and then we get two potential twenty twenty four

661
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Speaker 3: Pac twelve champions in Oregon in the Big Ten and

662
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Speaker 3: ASU in the Big Twelve. Yeah, that makes me kind

663
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: of happy. Elsewhere in the sport on Saturday, Colorado State

664
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Speaker 3: very quietly undefeated in the Mountain.

665
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Speaker 1: West, Colorado State and Colorado State's.

666
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Speaker 4: I think, adding an element of intrigue to this whole

667
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: playoff discussion here. Yeah, okay, I looked at this in

668
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: a little bit more detail. There is a game this weekend,

669
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Speaker 4: Friday night, to be exact, between you and LV and

670
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 4: San Jose State. Here is the way this works. UNLV

671
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: needs Colorado State to lose. If Colorado State loses, you

672
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: and LV would win the third tiebreaker, which is overall

673
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 4: winning percentage, and then they would get their rematch, the

674
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: rematch we know they want against Boise State in the

675
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 4: Mountain West Title game. Yes, but Colorado State does control

676
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: its own destiny. Yes, there is another circumstance as well.

677
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Speaker 4: If it ends up that UNLV wins out and there

678
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: is a tie with Colorado State, they would then also

679
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: potentially win a second tiebreaker if they end up getting

680
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: ranked by the College Football Playoff Committee. So pretty much

681
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: all the tie breakers favor UNLV. They just need Colorado

682
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: State to lose, and they've got Fresno late at night

683
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Speaker 4: on Saturday night. This looks like the best chance for

684
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Speaker 4: them to lose a game. So I'll be watching that

685
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: one intently to see how it factors into this Mountain

686
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Speaker 4: West title.

687
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: Chase wanted to shout out New Mexico for beating, not

688
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: only beating Washington States. They start out the year zero

689
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 3: to four and they are now a Hawaii win away

690
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: from being Bowl eligible for Bronco Mendenhall. Not bad, right,

691
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Yeah, I'm happy with that if I'm

692
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: a New Mexico fan, absolutely. I love just the swings

693
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: in emotion in the Florida fan base and just Florida's

694
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: place within the sport beating LSU. Maybe there's just some

695
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: pixie dust and seeing a sad Brian Kelly that makes

696
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: everything okay for everybody involved. Florida all of a sudden,

697
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 3: I think they flipped Florida State's four star quarterback commit. Yep,

698
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: DJ Lagway on one leg kinda is making huge throws

699
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: against LSU, and the Vibes are once again back in Gainesville,

700
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: at least temporarily like they never left, baby, like they

701
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: never left. What else did I see? You mentioned the

702
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: UMass firing Don Brown thing. Auburn's probably they're almost assuredly

703
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: not going to a bowl again. Yeah, they finish with

704
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: A and M and Alabama. I just you know, I'm

705
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: looking at people's records and trying to put them in

706
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: perspective here, which couldn't have happened to a nicer guy,

707
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: I guess and Hugh Freeze otherwise, I'm trying to look

708
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: and see here. I'm thinking about some of the open jobs,

709
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 3: like ECU. I'm curious to see how quickly those get

710
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: in the next two three weeks. David Randa officially coming back.

711
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that news for twenty

712
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: twenty five. Yeh again, Jake Spavinall, what a job Baylor

713
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: has done offensively this year, Arkansas State very quietly gets

714
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: to bowl eligibility.

715
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: They look frisky.

716
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 3: Against Michigan, and you know, slowly but surely, Arkansas State

717
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: has gotten back to becoming a frisky team. We talked

718
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: about Rutgers. Louisiana had been one of those teams threatening

719
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 3: to go to a conference championship game. They go down

720
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: to South Alabama despite an attempted furious comeback. Late Texas

721
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: State Bowl eligible you mentioned on the Saturday show, it's

722
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 3: Tulane and Army have already clinched the American Conference Championship game.

723
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 3: Cannot wait for that. I am pre excited for that game.

724
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: And UNLV with a huge first half to take down

725
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 3: San Diego State moved eight and two. You just mentioned UNLV,

726
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: but doesn't matter who the quarterback is, they keep scoring

727
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: points and a really successful year for the Rebels. Excited

728
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: to see if we can get a UNLV Boise State rematch.

729
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 4: A lot riding on that Colorado State Fresno game. Colorado State,

730
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: for what it's worth, closes out with Utah State. So

731
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: this this game this week on the road at Fresno

732
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 4: is really significant. The best chance to lose they factored

733
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: be you know, a double digit favorite projected to be

734
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 4: a double digit victor, let's say in that Utah State game.

735
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: So this is the This is the hope if you're

736
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 4: a UNLV person, that they would find their way into

737
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 4: that title game by virtue.

738
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Speaker 1: Of a win this weekend.

739
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Speaker 3: By the way, Navy clearing out the path for Army

740
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: by beating Memphis earlier this year. That's right, so thanks

741
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: for that. Memphis can't obviously they're not playing in the

742
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: American Championship Game thanks to losing to Navy.

743
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: Exactly right, All right, let's build a bracket, Dan, Please,

744
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: here is the way you and I are going to

745
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 4: do this. I would encourage first and foremost are for

746
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 4: baller hood out there as you are listening, get out

747
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: your own legal pad and jot down where we're right,

748
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 4: where we're wrong, what you think is going to happen,

749
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: and send it to us at soliverble at gmail dot com,

750
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 4: v email or any social media like we got all

751
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: the platforms at this point. Just send it to us

752
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: and let us know. Take a picture of your bracket

753
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 4: and send it in. I will do my best to

754
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: kind of dictate this in a non visual medium. Okay,

755
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: for the people listening to the audio feed. You and

756
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 4: I are first going to start by figuring out who

757
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: our top four seeds are in this tournament. Now, the

758
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 4: way that this works. I said this at the start

759
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: of the season. I'm going to say it again Now.

760
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 4: Every Tuesday night, there is a twelve team college football

761
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 4: playoff ranking on ESPN. Maybe you watch, maybe you don't.

762
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: That ranking is not the same as seeding. There are

763
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: two different entities as it relates to this playoff. The

764
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: four highest seeded conference champions are the ones that are

765
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 4: going to be seeded one through four and get the

766
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Speaker 4: first round by whoever wins all four of the Power conferences.

767
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 4: Whoever the top ranked G five conference champion is, those

768
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 4: five teams get automatic bits. After that, the next seven

769
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Speaker 4: highest ranked teams in the rankings are the ones that

770
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Speaker 4: get the at large spots. Makes sense, You got it? Yes,

771
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: let's start in the Big ten. It looks like if

772
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Speaker 4: I am putting money on anything right now, we do

773
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Speaker 4: need to see what happens this weekend between Ohio State

774
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Speaker 4: and Indiana. My money is on Ohio State beating them.

775
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Speaker 4: If we are to assume Ohio State against Oregon, we're

776
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Speaker 4: going to get a rematch of that game.

777
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Oregon won the first one in Eugene by one point.

778
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: Do you feel like it's a different outcome as Oregon

779
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: Travels used to play that game in India if a

780
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 4: rematch were to occur, Yes, different in favor of Oregon.

781
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: Different in favor of Ohio State.

782
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

783
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: I have Oregon winning by thirty five to forty two points. No,

784
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: I think Ohio State should be looked at as the

785
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: favorite in Indye fast Track inside, still dealing with health

786
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: issues and competence issues on the offensive line against a

787
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: defensive front like Oregon has. But I would probably give

788
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: the nod to Ohio State if Oregon is eking out

789
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: by a point in Eugene and has struggled at times

790
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: with longer stretches of offensive sluggishness that even though Ohio

791
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: State themselves are not a perfect team, I would probably

792
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: give them the nod in.

793
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Speaker 2: India in this moment.

794
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: So I would have Ohio State winning the Big Ten

795
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: as it stands right now. I reserve the right to

796
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: see how Ohio State looks against Indiana and Michigan, and

797
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: same for Oregon against Washington.

798
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: If that were to occur, we would have a battle

799
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Speaker 4: of one versus two in the Big Ten title game.

800
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: Whoever wins that's going to be the top overall seed.

801
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: That sounds right to me.

802
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 4: For our purposes here, we'll say Ohio State since that's

803
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: where your trending, and I've said that all along. Yeah,

804
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 4: Ohio State gets our number one overall seed. The number

805
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 4: two team I think probably comes from the SEC. Yeah,

806
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: this is an interesting tiebreaker scenario. Okay, where as you

807
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: said earlier, it looks like Alabama versus the winner of

808
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: Texas versus Texas A and m Weird things can still happen.

809
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: We sell the Iron Bowl coming up. Who knows if

810
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: there's any weirdness in that. When I am not banking

811
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: on it, my inclination is to say Texas. I still

812
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: think I favor Texas. That's what I have down here

813
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 4: as well. Yep, I'm going to go Texas. I think

814
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 4: they take that number two seed. Acc is interesting. How

815
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 4: much faith do you have an SMU.

816
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: I love that they seem to be the most balanced.

817
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: I just don't know what they're ceiling truly, as on

818
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: either side of the ball, So I'm favoring Miami at

819
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: the moment.

820
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 4: SMU closes out the season with Virginia and Cal if

821
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 4: they were to lose, It's a totally separate conversation. Yeah,

822
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: but as things stand, I feel pretty good about where

823
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 4: they're at about making it into that title game.

824
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 3: It's at Virginia and hosting Cal.

825
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 4: Correct correct, Yeah, I think I favor Miami as well. Okay,

826
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 4: Miami gets in for me, SMU, we can come back

827
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: to whether or not they belong in.

828
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: This is very boring that we're just agreeing with each other.

829
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: Continue Big twelve Colorado.

830
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: I desperately want to say Arizona State, but I think

831
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 4: Colorado is the answer.

832
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: Colorado's been taking care of business. They've been winning by

833
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: an increasing number of points, running away at the end

834
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: of games, which I think is a very good thing

835
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 3: to do, to finish strong in the fourth quarter. That

836
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 3: shows resolve, That shows increased depth, That shows an increased

837
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: ability to generate big plays. So I have Colorado right

838
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 3: now as the most advantaged of the Big twelve teams

839
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Speaker 3: heading into the stretch run.

840
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: That begs the question, then if we assume Boise, who

841
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: I think We're going to both go with Boise as

842
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: our G five entrant.

843
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: I think so.

844
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: But there is something about two lane that I can't

845
00:41:59,080 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 3: shake right now.

846
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: I think it's either going to be Boys or tu Lane.

847
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way.

848
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if man if Army beats Notre Dame

849
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: and Tulane takes down Army, that's an interesting conversation. That's

850
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: a Boise He has been struggling for longer stretches of

851
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: these games against Nevada San Jose State, whereas Tulane has

852
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 3: just been wrecking teams.

853
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: I think if Colorado goes on a run and ends

854
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: up winning the title in the Big Twelve, that they

855
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 4: would get the nod by the Playoff Committee over Boise

856
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: State for that first round by. I think there's a

857
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 4: lot of pressure on that committee to put the Power

858
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 4: Conferences in a position where they've got a first round by.

859
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 4: But right now Colorado was sixteenth in these rankings. They

860
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: might go up a little bit in the next version

861
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: of them. They're kind of right on the cusp.

862
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: Well, if we like Colorado to finish strong and we

863
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: like Texas, that means A and M is going to fall.

864
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: That means there's a decent chance BYU falls and loses

865
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: a second game. SMU we have losing a second game.

866
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: We'll see on some of the teams in that like

867
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 3: six to ten. But Colorado will just be ranked near

868
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 3: or slightly above Boise State when all is said and done,

869
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: because of the quality of victories.

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00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see. But I think Boise

871
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: gets in.

872
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 4: That then brings us to the conversation of who are

873
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 4: the next seven? Yeah, Oregon, mm hmm. We can assume

874
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 4: is fact beyond Oregon teams that are also ranked very

875
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: highly Penn State, Indiana.

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00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: I think both those teams get in. Yeah, agree, I

877
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: think so.

878
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 3: I guess you could see them based on who looked

879
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: more impressive against Ohio State yep, because there's not a

880
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: lot of quality opponents on those schedules and quality performances

881
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: in terms of being excellent against the best teams. So

882
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: Indiana has very few of the best teams on their schedule,

883
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: but they've taken care of business in a way that

884
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: Penn State hasn't, largely.

885
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 4: Barring any kind of catastrophe. Notre Dame yup gets in

886
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: as well. That suddenly means we've got nine teams are

887
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: three spots available. That brings us to the point now

888
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: where we got to start talking SEC teams. Yes, right now,

889
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 4: the SEC teams that are ranked inside the top twelve

890
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 4: are Alabama, Georgia, ole Miss, and Tennessee. We already have

891
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 4: Texas through as our conference champion, right If Alabama loses,

892
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: they've got three losses on the year.

893
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're essentially being punished for breaking a tie

894
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: with a more impressive resume and getting to the conference

895
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: championship game.

896
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: There would be a.

897
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: Question of how far does Bama fault if they lose

898
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: to Texas. I think it would depend on how they lose.

899
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: Well, how much do you punish a team for losing

900
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: in a conference championship that other at large ish teams

901
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: didn't have to play in exactly exactly?

902
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: So I'll ask you of those four teams that I mentioned,

903
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 4: how many of those get in?

904
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: So Bama, Tennessee, Georgia, and ole Miss. At that point,

905
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: Georgia would have an extremely strong argument with wins over

906
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: Tennessee and Texas.

907
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: I think Georgia makes it in.

908
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: But if you're saying Georgia has a very strong argument,

909
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: then how do you Ole Miss has a strong and

910
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: weak argument because they would have the worst loss because

911
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: of the loss to Kentucky and maybe the best win

912
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: because they beat Georgia. I do not hold it against

913
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: Alabama for losing in a conference championship game because they

914
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: were they put together a better resume and put themselves

915
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: in a better place to have the opportunity to play

916
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: for the SEC. So how do you truly hold it

917
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: against and Bama beat Georgia.

918
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: I think I'd go Georgia. I think i'd go Bama,

919
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: and I think I go All Miss.

920
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 4: I think I do too, And I think that's the

921
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 4: way it shakes out. What that does is it means

922
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 4: that there's only one team from the Big twelve, which

923
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 4: should not come as a great surprise to anybody. Right

924
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: It also means there's only one team making it in

925
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 4: out of the AEC as well, which also does not

926
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: feel like a surprise.

927
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: Now subject to change, but right now, I think those

928
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: are our twelve teams.

929
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 4: So we've got Ohio State, Texas, Miami, Colorado, Boise State, Yes,

930
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 4: and then are at large teams or Oregon, Penn State, Indiana,

931
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 4: Notre Dame, and then the three teams from the SEC Georgia, Alabama,

932
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 4: Ole Miss.

933
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: I'd say, I'm trying to like put my seatings together.

934
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: How would you seed it with those teams? I think

935
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: Oregon's probably your five.

936
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: Yep, that's what I have.

937
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: They're definitely your next best.

938
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: I think Penn State probably is number six, just because

939
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: there's not a whole lot of resistance between now and

940
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: the end of the season. I would be inclined to

941
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 4: put Notre Dame seven. Not a lot that can really

942
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 4: stand in their way at this point.

943
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: You don't you don't sort of hold it against Notre

944
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: Dame for having the worst loss of any of these

945
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: teams and not playing in a conference championship game.

946
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they will, is my point.

947
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: Okay, but do you think they should? This is this

948
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: is the tie ranking.

949
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 4: I said at the beginning of the season, I thought

950
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: they should be held somewhat accountable for losing to Northern Illinois. Yeah,

951
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 4: I agree, But I don't think they will. Okay, I

952
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: really don't. So you're not holding them accountable, but you

953
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 4: think others should. That's right, Okay, that's right. I think

954
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 4: the next best seating here is somebody from the SEC. Okay,

955
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 4: if we believe that BAMA is gonna lose to Texas,

956
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 4: uh huh, and if we believe that BAMA beat Georgia,

957
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: I believe that it happened.

958
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: You can't take that reality away from me.

959
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 4: I have Bama at number eight, Okay, I think I

960
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 4: put ole miss at number nine. Okay, I probably put

961
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 4: Georgia at ten. Okay, I've got Indiana at eleven.

962
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: I'd put Boise at eleven.

963
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: Want to put Boise at eleven? Yeah, Indiana at twelve.

964
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 3: I put Indiana at twelve. I would punish non conference

965
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: scheduling just because you're comparing it against everybody. Boise lost

966
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 3: by three points, and I guess it depends what happens

967
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: how Indiana loses to Ohio State, but Boise has one

968
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: of the best losses of the year. If they finished

969
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: twelve and one, they would have lost by three. At

970
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: the longtime number one team in the country and five

971
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: seed in the playoff, I would put them at eleven.

972
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 3: It also avoids having a rematch of Oregon and Boise

973
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: State in the first round, because you're trying to generate

974
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: as much interest in this opening round as possible. So

975
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: I think the committee will find a way not to

976
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: have Oregon Boise as a rematch in Eugene.

977
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: The way that this shakes out, then per hour seting

978
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 4: our first round matchups would be as follows, we would

979
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 4: have Ole miss on the road at Alabama. Interesting matchup, Yeah,

980
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 4: the winner playing your Oregon Ducks. Wait a minute, the

981
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 4: winner of playing Ohio State.

982
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

983
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, the same side of the bracket, we would have

984
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 4: your Oregon Ducks hosting number twelve Indiana. Yeah, with the

985
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 4: right to play Colorado. That seems very favorable. Spot seems

986
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 4: extraordinarily favorable. On the other side of the bracket, we

987
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 4: would have number seven Notre Dame hosting number ten Georgia,

988
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: with the right to square off against number two Texas.

989
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 4: And then the final matchup looks like it would be

990
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 4: number six Penn State hosting number eleven Boise State, with

991
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 4: the winner going on to play in Miami. Per this bracket,

992
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 4: things are coming up Oregon in Penn State at least

993
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: to make it through into the semifinals. Yeah, we can

994
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: debate the merits of those other matchups.

995
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: I think you probably like Ohio State. I think you

996
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: probably like Texas.

997
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: But all things considered, I will draw this up. I

998
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 4: will find some way to put it out there so

999
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 4: that people can react to it.

1000
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: It seems entertaining. I'm still worried about and I love

1001
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: that Notre Dame's throttling teams. I'm still worried that bamam

1002
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: making the SEC Championship game and sliding them beneath Notre Dame.

1003
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: Depending on how they look against Texas, I might have

1004
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: them ahead of Notre Dame. It would be hard for

1005
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: me to put Ole Miss ahead of Notre Dame. As

1006
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: good as the Georgia winn was Kentucky's one and six

1007
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: right now in the SEC, I believe yep. So it's

1008
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: a tough resume to like violently defend. Otherwise, I think

1009
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm on the same page with you that it's potentially

1010
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: a really nice year to the five seed in this

1011
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 3: in this playoff.

1012
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 4: Way in soliverbogmail dot com again, I will post out

1013
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: on our website, if not in more places, what this

1014
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: bracket looks like for you and I.

1015
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's where we're at right now.

1016
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: It's it's also a very fun time of year where

1017
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: it's fans saying, man, give Indiana Tennessee schedule, Give them

1018
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: so and so's in the Big Ten schedule, see what

1019
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: their record is. Then, as if that's some sort of

1020
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: incredible argument to make at this point, like you can say,

1021
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: like Texas hasn't played anybody. Texas scheduled the defending champions

1022
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 3: and they put they played them in their house. They

1023
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: didn't schedule some sort of cowardly like Jerry World, Glaryworld?

1024
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: Is that a thing?

1025
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: They didn't schedule like a cowardly TV game in an

1026
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 3: NFL stadium. They not defending Texas's results and the strength

1027
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: of their results this year, because they've been kind of

1028
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: all over the place. But you can only play who

1029
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 3: the com frience tells you to play, and Texas has

1030
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 3: won nearly all of those games. And so I don't

1031
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: lose a lot of sleep over, Like, give this team

1032
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: that team schedule, give this big ten team that SEC schedule.

1033
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 4: Like, here's what the rest of the week looks like,

1034
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 4: Dan early Bird Special, what do we have?

1035
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: So we got some interesting weekday maction.

1036
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 4: We talked about the potential six way tie, if that's

1037
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: something you're interested in. Miami Ohio playing host to Northern

1038
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: Illinois on Tuesday night. As people are listening to this

1039
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 4: love It Wednesday night, it is Ohio on the road

1040
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 4: against Toledo. If you want maximum mac craziness, you.

1041
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: Would root for Toledo in that matchup. Great on Thursday night.

1042
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: We've got a team in NC State that.

1043
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 4: We also have not talked a whole lot about at

1044
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 4: five and five, trying to get bull eligible on the

1045
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: road against Georgia Tech. And then on Friday, we've got

1046
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 4: the aforementioned unl V versus San Jose State game.

1047
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: You know that there are some mitis to that one.

1048
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 4: Yep, so perdue against Michigan State I mentioned earlier, but

1049
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 4: Michigan State.

1050
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: Closes out with purduing Rutgers.

1051
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: They six months.

1052
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: It would be kind of fun the way this works.

1053
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: If you are new here.

1054
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: Our preview episode drops on Thursday morning, bright and early.

1055
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: There's also a video that hits YouTube a little bit

1056
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 4: after the audio drops. We will also publish our Big

1057
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 4: ten Breakfast Friday at nine. They are getting progressively weirder.

1058
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: Last week was different for us. This week is going

1059
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 4: to be different yet.

1060
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

1061
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 4: Here are the big games for week thirteen, just to

1062
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 4: circle in advance to plan your day out. It is

1063
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 4: not as loaded of a week as we have seen.

1064
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: The biggest game by far is at noon Eastern time,

1065
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 4: Indiana at Ohio State. Did we decide do we want

1066
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 4: to do any kind of stream for that let's do it.

1067
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm ready.

1068
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: We're doing a stream Top five matchup Indiana at Ohio

1069
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 4: State on our YouTube channel. Stay tuned our social media

1070
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 4: feeds for updates. We will have fun with it. All

1071
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 4: are welcome.

1072
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: Did you want to do any sort of stream like

1073
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: co stream when UMass Georgia kicks off, UTEP Tennessee, Watford,

1074
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: South Carolina, Arkansas, Louisiana Tech.

1075
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: Did you want to do anything with any of those?

1076
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: No, we'll see. We'll see what the crowd's like. You

1077
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: got to play it by your Yeah, we'll do like a.

1078
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 3: Four wide like oh my god, look at the firepower.

1079
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 2: This week Week thirteen sec.

1080
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 4: We've got Ole miss at Florida. Also at noon, that's true.

1081
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: Three point thirty is the big twelve window.

1082
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: That's when we've got BYU at ASU, when we've got

1083
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: Colorado at Kansas. Those two games are obviously meaningful for

1084
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 4: all the reasons we discussed. And then at seven o'clock

1085
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 4: on NBC, it's the Army Notre Dame game Yankee Stadium.

1086
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of it. There are a bunch of

1087
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: other games we will find ways.

1088
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 4: On our Week thirteen previous show to get you jazzed

1089
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 4: up for it, But in terms of the ones that

1090
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 4: have real significance, those are the ones that I think

1091
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 4: are the most meaningful with respect to postseasons and conferences

1092
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 4: and tie breakers and whatnot.

1093
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: Are you can we preview the preview? Sure? What's your

1094
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: concern level with Army Notre Dame.

1095
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 3: Four percent? So load to moderate? I've seen so many

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Speaker 3: drun commercials this season. Moderate to severe, load to moderate, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's low.

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Speaker 4: I mean I like what they've done from an offensive standpoint,

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Speaker 4: and even from a defensive standpoint, Army has been much

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Speaker 4: much better than meets the eye. I think you can

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Speaker 4: push them around defensively, and I think there will be

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Speaker 4: plenty of opportunities in the passing game. Army in this

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Speaker 4: case does have a bit of an interesting matchup in

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Speaker 4: that they're very good at running the ball. We already

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Speaker 4: know that's their preference. But some of the line stats

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Speaker 4: are really positive. Yeah, for this Army team. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they're bullying some of their opponents off the line, and

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Speaker 4: that's good, especially if you run that style of offense.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think they're going to be able to

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Speaker 4: do that against Notre Dame, even a Notre Dame team

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Speaker 4: that's taken on some serious water in the trenches. That

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Speaker 4: to me will be the matchup to watch to see

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Speaker 4: if this thing ends up being close or not. But

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Speaker 4: right about now, I've got Notre Dame but like twenty points,

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Speaker 4: what's the line? Have not seen the line?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay?

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Speaker 3: Army has played the one hundred and thirty third ranked schedule,

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Speaker 3: though Bill Connolly has their RESUMESP plus rank at eleventh,

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Speaker 3: So fourteen points extremely well against an extremely poor schedule.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen's the line?

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Speaker 1: It opened at seventeen. It's come down.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I would I would give so many points.

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Speaker 3: I think Notre Dame is going to just shell them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Solid verbal at gmail dot com as always

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Speaker 4: is the email address right in let us know your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: We will be dropping that Week thirteen preview episode.

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Speaker 4: Bright early on Thursday morning. We'll be doing the stream

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Speaker 4: on Saturday throughout the course of the Indiana Ohio state game,

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Speaker 4: and then you can stop right on back on the

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Speaker 4: YouTube channel later in the day at night. Got another

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Speaker 4: recap show that we're going to do it, why mit midnight?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, baby, A lot more Rubenstein Hildenbrandt than a lot

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Speaker 3: of people are requesting but we're giving it to them anyway.

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Speaker 1: Got a cool strong here, Gotta get.

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Speaker 4: Strong for that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

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Speaker 4: Tie hilden Brand. Thank you as always down on if

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Speaker 4: you're listening, for playing along at home, for supporting what

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Speaker 4: we do.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you on Thursday and utimes.

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Speaker 2: Stay solid, Peace,