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Speaker 1: the top of the chat. The holidays you miss New Year's,

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Speaker 1: So go by yourself, a battle or someone that you

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Speaker 1: right into it, Gil.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers beat.

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Speaker 1: The excuse me, the Heat beat the Lakers one ten

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Speaker 1: to ninety six. And I think this is unforgivable because

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Speaker 1: they're playing without their best player or second best player

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Speaker 1: in Jimmy Butler, whether it's Bam or Jimmy. But they're

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Speaker 1: right there one a one beat. You can't lose by

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Speaker 3: No, that's facts. I mean it's embarrassing at this point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know how many games you're gonna go

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Speaker 3: when the same two people are not giving you any

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Speaker 2: Right? And you know both the same two people we're talking.

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Speaker 3: About, you know, Van Doen and Cam Ready Cam in

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Speaker 3: Prince Ding zero and zero. Yes, So unless your unless

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Speaker 3: someone has to make up that point differential and I

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Speaker 2: And that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, you guys combined for zero, the guys

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Speaker 1: This, Yeah, I'm looking. They had one, two, three, four, five, six,

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Speaker 2: Lebron did not have it tonight.

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Speaker 1: Play three eight minutes, he was six of eighteen, all

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Speaker 3: You're guarding Lebron. I'm right behind you. My other guy's

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Speaker 1: It's like playing his own right. You can't play that

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Speaker 2: And that's what happens. Gil. Let's just say it in this.

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Speaker 1: When you look at it, when you look at a team,

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Speaker 1: Now, both of those guys, they normally give me around

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Speaker 2: And what am I counting on them to do?

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Speaker 3: They you're counting on them to have a nice cardio day,

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Speaker 3: is what you're counting. There's a problem when Kevin Love.

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Speaker 2: When Kevin Love plays twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Minutes, you know there's a problem. Key twenty eight from Love, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: twenty five. Who can ball? Oh my god? Like when

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Speaker 3: I seen he was playing, I'm like, yo, go at

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Speaker 2: Nope, nope.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is the Lakers, the Lakers out rebounding

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Speaker 1: them by eleven, the Lakers out rebounding them by eleven,

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Speaker 1: you and you lose. The Lakers they got to get

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Speaker 1: better three point shooting. I mean they got our shot

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Speaker 1: plus thirteen from the three points So they got thirty

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Speaker 1: nine more points from that line than what you got.

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Speaker 2: The likelihood of you winning and.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers was twenty two.

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Speaker 1: They were twenty two or twenty four from the free

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Speaker 3: It's like if we translated to football, it's like having

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Speaker 3: Lamark Jackson, but he has no receivers at right.

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Speaker 2: All right, there's no receiver.

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Speaker 3: So it's easy to set the defense knowing that you

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Speaker 3: It makes it harder, and that becomes the problem with

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Speaker 3: nobody who can shoot the long ball. Right, We're just

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Speaker 3: Now they're under five hundred. At one point in time

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Speaker 1: It hadn't correlated coming out of the N Season Tournament

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Speaker 3: I think they're getting ready to train because is the

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Speaker 3: fact that you didn't play Ruey tonight or d LO.

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Speaker 3: And I think they're trying to make some type of

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Speaker 3: That's what it really looks like. Now, this is that

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Speaker 3: cool coach.

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Speaker 1: But Gil, I thought if you get ready to trade

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Speaker 3: Gonna clean it up. I would put it. I would

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Speaker 3: and neat. I'm gonna do everything I thought you.

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Speaker 1: I thought to add value or maybe increase the value

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Speaker 1: you like get these guys, say, come on, guy, y'all

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Speaker 3: No, I think I think the value of Ruey and

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Speaker 3: Delo has already been set. I think that's where Van

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Speaker 3: because I think they're trying to show that he's healthy,

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Speaker 3: some type of blockbuster trade.

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Speaker 1: The thing about the Lakers, they have very traitable contracts.

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Speaker 1: Vanderbilt contracts, brand friendly, del contracts, friendly, Ruins is friendly.

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Speaker 1: you want to decide to move him. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason. And I remember when they made the

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Speaker 2: But you didn't. They got incredily better.

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Speaker 1: The Clippers beat the Suns one Paul George thirty three

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Speaker 3: You know, these guys are friends, these guys are home right,

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Speaker 3: This lets you know the difference between coaches, right, and

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Speaker 2: They have to do that. You can't do it.

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Speaker 3: So that's why that's why the Clippers is successful right now,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't it does, doesn't hurt that Todd Lou is

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Speaker 1: And the mistake that they made, even though they won

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Speaker 3: They should have been questioning why did you lose two games?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Devin Book of Paul George.

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Speaker 1: He's playing forty minutes. We're thirty games INTOL the regular season.

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Speaker 1: He's playing those kind of minutes. Those are playoff minutes

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna see a stretch where these guys play

438
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: somewhere fifteen to twenty games together after All Star break?

439
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 3: Right the way the way that the way it's looking now,

440
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 3: I'm assuming after All Star break because when KD comes back,

441
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Booker's gonna probably take a little break,

442
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like this is chess un like,

443
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 3: you know, take up break, and then after All Star break,

444
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 3: you know there's thirty two games, last thirty round of

445
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: thirty two to thirty three. Let's move right.

446
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: Well, if it's gonna be very interesting because that All

447
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: Star Game ain't no guaranteed books gonna get selected. With

448
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: the way Shade's playing, you still got Steph Curry, who's

449
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 1: a fan favorite, and you got Luca Man.

450
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: We're not doing that the book every year.

451
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Put doing that at the book at Gill Gill all honesty,

452
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: who you putting them in over Shade? You putting him

453
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: in over step or you're putting them in over Luca.

454
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: I ain't mentioned dearon Fox, who's giving you thirty a night? Hey, listen, listen, because.

455
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a power for They're gonna be a

456
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 3: power forward in there that's don't belong. They're gonna be

457
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: a power for that don't belong. And then and then

458
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 3: they do that every year. They do that every year.

459
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: You got because it's.

460
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 1: Say they ate a whole lot because you think about it,

461
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: you got bron k d A D you got some bonus.

462
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: Those are really that's really only big him, right, come

463
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: on like that he's not he's not, but.

464
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 3: He's really he's really a five.

465
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Speaker 1: Let's just say he's a five because they don't really

466
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Speaker 1: have I mean, come on now, I understand Gobert, but

467
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: come on now, we go what we gonna do with Gobert.

468
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 3: But that's the point, that's the the whole thing about

469
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: the All Star Game is this that when you're doing reserves, right,

470
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 3: it's you're voting. They tell you to vote for the

471
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: best seven or the fift you best for you vote

472
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: for the best eight, and then someone puts them in

473
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: position right. So in reality, Book can have the third

474
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: most votes as a starter.

475
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: But because they have two.

476
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: Guards in front of him, now they got to fill

477
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: the roster up with power forwards and and wing guys.

478
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 3: And it's like, that's unfair because.

479
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, Steph, Steph is, Steph is probably gonna win

480
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: the fan vote.

481
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 3: He's Steph Curry, John got John came back. So we

482
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 3: don't know what the fans gonna do this for Johh himself.

483
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: He is.

484
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: He ain't being step because Steph has already been. Steph

485
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: has been a captain. No, no, you know how many

486
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: votes you gotta be to be a captain?

487
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: No no, no, you're right, You're right, you're right.

488
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: But you now now you okay, jobs back. Well, now

489
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: you got jaw, you got Shape, you got Luca, you

490
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: got Steph, you got defaults, and you got booked.

491
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: You can't take fixed guard, but you should.

492
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is thinking about.

493
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: Thinking about it, Like if those six guards are all

494
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: averaging thirty and they're in the top eight and scoring,

495
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 3: that is horrible to say. These ain't all stars, they

496
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: all start. They shouldn't be competing against each other. They

497
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: should be competing against the people that's being selected to

498
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: So if it's me versus Rudy.

499
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 2: Who's numbers is better, minds, well I'll get the rebound.

500
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: Goddamn it.

501
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: I think I think what's gonna happen is that some

502
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: of these guards are gonna get left because they're gonna

503
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: have to have some bigs and and there's a chance

504
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: that Rudy Gobert and Karl Anthony Towns because those are

505
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: the biggest guys.

506
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: A D and Lebron's gonna make it. Kd's gonna make it.

507
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: Who are who? And you got some bonus? I mean

508
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 3: you got Joker, Yeah, yo, gonna make it you.

509
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: So you have so the starting two guards, I mean

510
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: the two guards.

511
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 3: So it makes it tough because uh, Luca and Stephand

512
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: be starting you. Now you have a Now you have

513
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: Shae who's an m VP, candidate come yes, yes, And

514
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: so when you and you.

515
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: Look at it and and deep Fosse getting you what

516
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: what he's getting and you got job. I think you know,

517
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: John coming back late, that might hurt him, especially with

518
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: the reporters. I think the I think the players and

519
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: the fans all it all, it's all contingent, but I

520
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: think it's gonna hurt it with the reporters. The players,

521
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: they love John rightfully so because he's watching him being

522
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: at a game and watching him how he elevates and

523
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: how he can thwart his body. And he's not a

524
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: big man as far as far as far as you know,

525
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: thin frame to go to take that pounding, because it's

526
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: like every time he's elevating, he's landing on the floor.

527
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a very very tough situation.

528
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: I don't end.

529
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: But the guys that's having to make that, make that

530
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: decision because somebody's gonna miss an All Star game because

531
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: they happen to play a position, play a position, and

532
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: that the and it.

533
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: Sucks because you've already changed the format right when you

534
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 3: got scared that.

535
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 2: Petroula was it Petrula who almost who almost made it?

536
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, the very next year. You changed it up, right,

537
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 3: so you you change it for when you want to.

538
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: If six guards in the West are the top players

539
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: in the in in the West coast, right, you have

540
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: to change it for them.

541
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: You can't say, oh, Booker, you're not.

542
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: An All Star, which you're not an All Star, but

543
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna be an All NBA player. That's the that's

544
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 3: the downside of it. He doesn't make Top twenty four,

545
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: but he becomes Top fifteen. And then the guy who

546
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: you put as a top twenty four is not even going.

547
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: To make any of those lists. That's the horrible part

548
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: about that about and you look, it happens in all sports.

549
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: Every year.

550
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: There's a receiver or there's a running back, or there's

551
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: a lineman offense defense that someone thinks that should have

552
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: made it and didn't make it, and and oh we.

553
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: Forgot a man. But with man, they're gonna put him

554
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: as a wing, so he gets to make it. Oh

555
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: they're gonna, oh, they're gonna they're gonna list him as

556
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: a wing. Yeah, they'll listen as a wing and he

557
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 3: gets to make it.

558
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be y. Just hey,

559
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: oh what so what are you gonna list? What are

560
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: you gonna listen? Kawhi pg as.

561
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 3: See yo oh you forget and James Harden what you're

562
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: gonna list your man like see like some That's what

563
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: I said. If if book is gonna have troubles making

564
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 3: it averaging damn twenty eight eight and eight.

565
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: But they see they got they got a man as

566
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: a garden in the in the All Star boating.

567
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: So if they got him as a guard, then they'll

568
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: take They'll probably take ant Man and they probably take

569
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: a man and Fox. Where's Fox record at where were

570
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: they record? I think they just I think they hold

571
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: on the beat Orlando tonight.

572
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: Hold on then DOUBLET is one thirty six with four

573
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: point two CENTERDS Sacramentos up one.

574
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 3: So they're nineteen and thirteen, eighteen and sixteen. I mean

575
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: it'd go it'll be close between Fox and Booker.

576
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: That'll be with ant Man.

577
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh Dren Fox is not having a good night tonight.

578
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: Uh.

579
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: Sabonus is twenty Sabonis is twenty two, twenty three and twelve.

580
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah see, I mean that's what I said.

581
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: So it's you know him cat, you know they're they're

582
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna sneak in, but you know, Kawhi,

583
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: they're gonna sneak like you're gonna They'll find a way

584
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: to put the players that they want in, but it's

585
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: usually it's usually a guard that gets that gets messed

586
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: up because the guard now are the more dominant players.

587
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm looking. I'm looking at the Luka.

588
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: Doncic's averaging thirty three, shake Gilgess is averaging thirty one,

589
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: Darren Fox is averaging thirty, Steph Curry's averaging twenty eight,

590
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Simons's average twenty seven. At Man is the averaging

591
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Devin Booker is averaging twenty six, jobs averaging

592
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: twenty six.

593
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: Oh I left at Kyrie too.

594
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: I mean, ye see, they'll keep hit me because, oh,

595
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: you ain't playing you ain't playing enough games. So you

596
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: know they'll try to make an excuse. You know, some

597
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: years it's it's just very difficult. Like when when Steve

598
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 3: Nash's MVP, he came up to mention All Star game.

599
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, t macin.

600
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: And and uh Kobe had the one that's the goal.

601
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: Nobody's surprised by that, you know.

602
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: So you know it's it's so hey, look I voted

603
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: up to remember when they voted Magic Magic, wasn't he playing?

604
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: And they voted him into the All Star Game and

605
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: he started it. Won the MVP down in Orlando because

606
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 1: I win, so get voted in. Yeah, you're absolutely right.

607
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: If they want to get you, they can get you

608
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: into that ball game. Ye, there was something happened. Uh,

609
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: Devin Booker on Paul George Beat on Beat. They ask

610
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: him before the game, he says, it's just oops. Do

611
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: you think fans care more about players beef than players

612
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: actually care about the bet?

613
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it comes to beef in the NBA, like

614
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: it really has to be something personal. Yeah, us like

615
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: jibber jabbing on the court. You know I'm winning you

616
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: I'm talking. You can't guard me? Yeah, I got for

617
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: you know, like like what Clay did. The book I

618
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: got for Clay was in his feelings. He was in

619
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: feeling Yea, I got for to you.

620
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: But they ain't got nobody. That has nothing to do

621
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: with me busting your ass right now.

622
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: Reef can't hip. But that's that's it. That's where we

623
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: leave it at. So I think sometimes when we when

624
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: when the players go back on, when they go back and.

625
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: Forth on Twitter or or social media.

626
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 3: I think the fan based themselves like really take on

627
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: to it like it's a real thing when it's this

628
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: is just court stuff.

629
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the fans like it because the fan

630
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: like to know that, like players genuinely dislike each other.

631
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: Because the old guard they didn't fratnize as much as

632
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: the guys currently do. But I think it had a

633
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: lot to do. A lot of these guys played on

634
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: the same AAU team. A lot of these guys grew

635
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: up playing against each other. It's not like, oh, the

636
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: first time I meet you is at the McDonald's All

637
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: American Game, or we met one time at a AAU

638
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: tournament our senior year. These guys start growing up traveling

639
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: and playing against each other. They're ten twelve years of age,

640
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: so from that point on they see each other. Every summer,

641
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: they see each other, and if they portunately they have

642
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: to go to college, they see each other and then

643
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: so they built up a friendship. It's like Lebron and

644
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 1: mellow Bro they started playing againsch other when they were

645
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: juniors in high school, so they build up a friendship.

646
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: And a lot of these guys, like John and Zion,

647
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: they lived on the same team. But friendship. Listen, if

648
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: usually our best friend is the person we go to

649
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: war with the most, right, right, that from video games,

650
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: to sports to to really anything, that's who we can

651
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: pete with the most.

652
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: So the competition on the court is competition.

653
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: The friends that are on the court are gonna go

654
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: at each other the most. Charles Barkley and Jordan, we're friends.

655
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna get full all night, right, and Jordan gonna

656
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 3: try try to get him so drunk that he can't

657
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: play tomorrow. Right, they're friends, right, Isaiah Thomas and Magic different.

658
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: But what happens when that game start? Yeah?

659
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: What's that game start? It's livelihood period.

660
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

661
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't you have braging red because I already

662
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: know you talked ish, So you ain't gonna be talking

663
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: to this summer when we playing golf or were playing

664
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: something butt. Nah, No, you're not gonna have that because

665
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: the thing and I had Magic and I had Isaiah

666
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: on my podcast Club She Magic said his teammates wanted

667
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: to know what, man, you all buddy buddy with Isaiah,

668
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do.

669
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: Isaiah came down to the lane. He saw they saw what

670
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: you gonna do.

671
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: Like okay, okay, okay, but that's what.

672
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 2: And that's how, and that's how it is.

673
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: It's it's like you rarely have like the Jordan and

674
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas right where in the senses, Jordan's probably thought

675
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: the way he was being hit was personal and not

676
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: the game, right, Like, are y'all doing this on purpose?

677
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: This this ain't bad.

678
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah they did, but they beat the hell out of

679
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: everybody like that. There's a reason why they adopted the

680
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: bad boys. They had Raiders jerseys on because they had

681
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: that mentality. Because that's how the Raiders out Raiders were outlaws.

682
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: Yea. Yeah, anything with they closed line you, they ripped

683
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: your head off, they kicked it, they didn't matter, and

684
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: so they adopted that style, the physical style in the

685
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: MiGs and Miami. But if you go back and look

686
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: at it, the Boston and in LA was playing like that.

687
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah before the Bistons work no facts.

688
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah go look when the when when Kevin McHale snatched

689
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: Kurt Ramba saying it's not the Scott but that.

690
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: That's how they played.

691
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: But you know, like I guess, I guess it's like this.

692
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: If Isaiah and Jordan had like some type of friendship,

693
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 3: you know, because if Isaiah basically was running in Chicago

694
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: and Jordan's coming there so he's protected.

695
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: And now your team is doing this to me when

696
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: we're playing.

697
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: Basketball, I can see how it can kind of rub

698
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: you the wrong way. And you know you're not shaking

699
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 3: my hand. We shake your hands. It became more personal

700
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: than on court stuff.

701
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: Gil.

702
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm a little older than you, but I'm old enough

703
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: to remember this. Isaiah never didn't start walking off the court.

704
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Go back and look at the Celtics when the Pistols

705
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: beat the Celtics, go look your feet.

706
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: Who walked off the court? Celtics. Yes, but everybody forgot that.

707
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: It's about Ivel Wish, but ain't nobody mentioned. Go back

708
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: and look it up.

709
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: If y'all think I'm lying, go back and look it

710
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: up when the Pistons finally broke through and beat the Celtics,

711
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: and watch what the Celtics did.

712
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: Listen, I get it, But this between me and you,

713
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: y'all beat us last year we shouldn't, but this year

714
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: we don't get the same respect.

715
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: But that's the same thing Isaiah was saying about the

716
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: Celtics when y'all beat us all the year we shook

717
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: y'all hand.

718
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: Now we finally get the upper hand.

719
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: But they may.

720
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: But see, everybody made it seem like this was the

721
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: first time that it actually happened. And Isaiah was the

722
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: orchestrator of it. Know the Celtics that did a couple

723
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: of years before, a couple of years before. But you

724
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: know they like the Celtic day, like Isaiah Day, like

725
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: Isaiah God hell dog. The Pacers beat the Bucks one

726
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: for the Pacers are now four and one against Milwaukee

727
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: this season. It got you know, the game got a

728
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: little chippy because remember what happened after the ball is

729
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, y'all's got what Yohn's.

730
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: Scored sixty two, sixty three points.

731
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: And one guy had a one point and he got

732
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: the game ball, and Yanni say, they say, I got

733
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: the game ball, But it doesn't feel like the game.

734
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: Tyree's Halliburton another monster night, one points, twelve assists, three blocks,

735
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: zero turnover. He became the second player in NBA history

736
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: with a thirty ten to three zero thirty points at

737
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: least thirty points, at least twelve assists, with three blocks

738
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: in zero turnovers. Now remember he put together back to

739
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: back twenty points.

740
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: One was a twenty assists zero turnovers and the other

741
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: was a twenty three two turnover.

742
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: What's going on with the Pacers?

743
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: Having watched the Pacers, I've watched the Pacers a little

744
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: bit because I like they get up and down. But

745
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: I watched him at the end season tournament, at the

746
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: NBA Finals, They're looking and running. Any chance make or miss,

747
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: they'll get it off the rim and run, or they'll

748
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: take it out the net and run. But you better

749
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: get back, ye Now, they ain't gonna play no defense.

750
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Theyin't gonna play They're not playing no defense. And even

751
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle said, even your girlfriend at some point time

752
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: gonna leave you if you're not playing defense. They're not

753
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna play no defense. But I tell you what, you

754
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: better get back because if you don't, they'll run you.

755
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: Out to jail.

756
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: It reminds me of like that early two thousand J Kidd.

757
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: You know you got J Kidd, Carrie Kittles, you got R. J.

758
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: Jordan Net and that new Jersey Net team where as

759
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: soon as they got as soon as you scored, they

760
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: coming down the line, there was no time for celebration

761
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: because there was coming back at you mixed with the

762
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: shooting of when Sons and Steve Nash got there right where.

763
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: It's the perfect team for Hallie. You have a bunch

764
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: of guys who can make shots. He has to do

765
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: is just find you. And when you have guys like this,

766
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: this is for so funny. This is like the type

767
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: of players bron needs. These, these the Smith Brown Turner.

768
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: He needs those type of guys who can hit the

769
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 3: open shot, take the open shot so he can the

770
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: court is open. Yeah, but it's you know, scoring, I

771
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: mean making twenty assistants today's game, right seems easy, but

772
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: it's not.

773
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: No, hell no, it's because you depending on somebody making

774
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: a shot. So it's not like it's not like laying

775
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: the ball up like we're magic. I think when Magic

776
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: had that that twentyeth sins Yeh Kareem Karee throwing the skyhook,

777
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: which is a very high percented shot. If you look

778
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: at the pacers, man, they got a wow. They were

779
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: twenty five or thirty four from three. Where you're gonna win.

780
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: A lot of game. You shoot, you miss nine three

781
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: and you make over twenty, you're gonna win that ball game.

782
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: If you gonna win that ball game.

783
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: They dropped the forty seven point third quarter on Milwaukee ahead,

784
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: and that's the thing that they can do. You look

785
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: at and they got one, two, three, four, five, six.

786
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: They got seven guys in double figures. They got two

787
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: guys with nine, so they're looking to push the ball.

788
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: So all that missing, and you know you you look

789
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: at it looking for a file. The moment you shoot

790
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: a shot or you miss a layup and you look

791
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: at the official. They got that ball off the rim.

792
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: They gone, and so you're talking to the official. Just

793
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: stay right there. They're gonna get you the ball back

794
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: in gear. They'd the lady in the hoop, or they

795
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: done made a shot, they get the ball up in Halliburton. Man,

796
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: he is good man because he I saw him making

797
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: some fastest It's like he jumps in the air and

798
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, he could have passed the ball

799
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: to the corner. Now he bounced fast to the guy

800
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: right up out of the basket and he dunked in

801
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: New But so.

802
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: Funny is I seen him in Vegas working out for

803
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: Golden State. So when he was coming into the draft,

804
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: I'm in Vegas. He's working out for Golden State. And

805
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: I remember he was trying to like stand on his

806
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: tippy toes to be a little bit taller, right right.

807
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't want to be six or four.

808
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: He wanted to be a little bit of six six.

809
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: And you know, he asked me a question, like you know,

810
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: you're watching my game and I'm looking at his shot,

811
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, this shot is sweet.

812
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: And I said, it reminds me of like Kevin Martin,

813
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: right yeah, where you Yeah? And I said, if you create.

814
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 3: A pump fake with your mechanics, you would destroyed because

815
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 3: it all looks the same because you have to wind

816
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: it up.

817
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: So you hit the wind up, everyone's gonna jump.

818
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: You realize the same mechanics as you're shot in your pump. Faith,

819
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: trust me, you're gonna eat in this league. And to

820
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: see that same player who was.

821
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: Nervous about his height working out trying.

822
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: To, you know, to see if he can make it

823
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: in the NBA destroying it right now is like, Wow.

824
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the bucks.

825
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: Yannis gave your twenty six and eleven, Dame gave your

826
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: twenty three nine to ten from free throw, didn't shoot

827
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: the ball from three veil didn't shoot over all for well,

828
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: you six from eighteen, two of eight from three?

829
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: What have we seen enough? Are we still holding out

830
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: judgment on Milwaukee?

831
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: What do we need to see?

832
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: What?

833
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: What are we missing?

834
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: A growl? It's like where is your horns? And what

835
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 3: the don't bucks got some shit? Where is it? Because

836
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: no one is scared of you? No one is scared

837
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: of this team. He's supposed to be a champion. When

838
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: when Dame got there, everybody was like, oh shit, this

839
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 3: is no one's paying attention to you, guys, And that's

840
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: the bad part. Y' on a sixty four and you're

841
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: doing all and your average what thirty eight forty against

842
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: this team before.

843
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: But they're not afraid of you.

844
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: And since you don't have no fear factor coming into

845
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: the game, as long as the game is close, teams

846
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: feel they have a chance, right, And that that's what

847
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 3: made the Bulls great, right. People were afraid of them

848
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: when gold Yeah it's popping. People were afraid of them.

849
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: But you know, as great as the Bulls were offense

850
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: was because of Mike. They locked you down defense and

851
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: they went Scott it up, They went Jordan's, they went hard,

852
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: they went Rodman where are you going nowhere? And they

853
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: picking and they just took turns picking you up. Ninety

854
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: four is you're ok. You got a You got him

855
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: the first quarter, okay, hard you got him the second quarter. Okay, Jordan, Hey,

856
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: you got it? Ye when you have got and you

857
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: think you.

858
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: Look at Milwaukee.

859
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: Giannis is all defensive player, brook Lopez is all defensive player.

860
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: Bobby Porters plays great interior defense. You got Beasley, Beas

861
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: is supposed to be a defender middle ten, middle to

862
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: middle to that that knee injury or foot injury, whatever

863
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: he is, he's not the same.

864
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: But it's not enough. And listen, you have enough defense.

865
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: You don't have more.

866
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: Indiana defense.

867
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, you got too all. You

868
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: got too all the NBA defensive players and Lopez and

869
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: Yiannis and.

870
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: You can't but you can't stop nobody.

871
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: Yes, it's just it's just they don't it's something going

872
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: on like within themselves.

873
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 2: And I don't know if they're they're not.

874
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: They haven't turned in on destroyer mode yet. Yeah, but

875
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez, that's them too. Got to give me more

876
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: than five rebounds. No, No, that's it, that's it, you know,

877
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: you know what he does. What he does great is

878
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: he boxes his man. He boxes out everybody. That's the

879
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: whole school ball at the ball hit the floor and

880
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: somebody else comes.

881
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that's what he does. Like I was

882
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 3: wondering because I'm like, wh wait, what are you doing

883
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: down there? And I'm just watching him because you know,

884
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: you know, you know, made little plays here and there,

885
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 3: so I don't only need like six rebounds, right, And

886
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm watching him and he's just he's boxing out everybody.

887
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: He's making sure every no one else gets this ball.

888
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: And it's hard for him to get rebounds because he's

889
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: hoving out around the three point line. So like when

890
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: he's when he's down there on the defensive end, Yeah,

891
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: he can grab the rebounds, but it's hard because he's

892
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: looking to shoot threes. Yeah, and so guy that shooting three,

893
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: you're not gonna expect him to get you know, thirteen

894
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: fourteen rebounds, although he should give me more than five.

895
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: At more than five etself, butt tall, Gil, We got

896
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: to address hisself in the room. I don't know if

897
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: you saw it today, but I saw he jot normal

898
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: and he been calls in the start, says uh, I

899
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: had cat Williams on my podcast, Oh.

900
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 2: Man, Man Gil.

901
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: And the thing is is that when he came, I

902
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: had reached out the cat last year, and uh, he

903
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: says he's gonna get to him, and so I just

904
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I've had Steve Harvey on the pod.

905
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: I've had sed Your entertained on the pod. I've had

906
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: Michael Michael Blaxton on the pod, Ricky Smiley on the pod,

907
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: and so everybody's got with exceptional Steve. Steve didn't really

908
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: tell any story about the comedy thing. He just threw

909
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: up how how he started out in comedy and ended

910
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: up Bran. You know, Steve is really positive now, no

911
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: matter what you think of I like Steve. I talked

912
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: to Steve from time to time. He's been great. He's

913
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: been great to me. And I can only judge someone

914
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: by the experience that I have dealing with said person.

915
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: But when so, you know, we make a little small

916
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: chat chat, we're both getting miked up, and so I'm

917
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, you know, I got questions.

918
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: I always said questions.

919
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: So I sat questions for anywhere between three hours, I

920
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: say three hours if they got that kind of time.

921
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: Good. But I'm thinking, can't wait every they're gonna you know,

922
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: because he don't really do a whole lot.

923
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: He doesn't do a whole lot of posting, and he

924
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: doesn't do a whole lot.

925
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: Of sit down and like he said, you know, I

926
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: gotta feel like I want to I ain't telling a product.

927
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm not selling a book, don't I don't promote my shows.

928
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: I gotta feel like I want to come talk to

929
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: say an individual individual, even though.

930
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: I'm not selling anything. And he told me, say, now,

931
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 3: you got a great platform.

932
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: He said, I love how you let the guests talk,

933
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: let him share their story, you don't interrupt.

934
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

935
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, cool. You know, well, actually, I said,

936
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: the interview for about an hour and a half.

937
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: That's what I go.

938
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: But I always have a couple of cars that if

939
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: we need to go a little longer, I can get

940
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: some stuff in. So the interview goes to forty six. Now,

941
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: mind you, I got another I still got questions for

942
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: another twenty thirty minutes, so we really could have gone

943
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 1: over three hours.

944
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: But at that point in time, I'm exhausted.

945
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: Huh.

946
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: So you know I do my interview. Hey, welcome to

947
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: another edition of Club Shay Sheha. I'm your host, also

948
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: the proprietor. Blah blah blah. And then I read around

949
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: his accolade what he or she has done, and so

950
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: we take I say, when you come on, we take it.

951
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: He took a shot Gil before I ask one question.

952
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: He went thirty minutes.

953
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 3: So now.

954
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: As the interview he interview. Excuse me as the interview er,

955
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm going in my head, do I cut him off

956
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: and get to the line of questioning or do I

957
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: let him go?

958
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: Let him go? Said, God, you in control?

959
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: Take the wheel. Yeah, and he went.

960
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: I heard I say, he went, and that little liquor

961
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: hit his body, shook him. Not but like he said,

962
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: like he said, he said, I don't need to be motivated.

963
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: The truth doesn't mote he says. I just I'm gonna

964
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: tell the truth. I'm gonna set the record straight. And

965
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 1: he's asking me, he said, well, why did you I say, Cat,

966
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm assuming when someone comes on my show and they're

967
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: telling me something that no one else has heard, I'm

968
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: assuming they're telling me the truth because only said individual

969
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: was there with Noah. So you're asking me, well, why

970
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: do you correct this. Hell, I wasn't on the set,

971
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: so I couldn't you know what I'm saying, I can't

972
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: correct it. This is your opportunity to set the record straight.

973
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: Man.

974
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: What's the fun of that?

975
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: That happens in a lot of interviewers when they say,

976
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: you know, why didn't you ask them this?

977
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: I was supposed to know, like you should have called in,

978
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: you know, rebuttal but you know, and I've done a

979
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 1: rich research as I possibly can. We do our due diligence.

980
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: We make sure we find as much as we possibly can,

981
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: and sometimes we're able to find nuggets and they ask like.

982
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 3: Who told you this?

983
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: How did you find this? Because we do a deep

984
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: die and so my team CJ mainly CJ. He does

985
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: he does as great a job as he possibly can.

986
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, CJ, did you hear about this?

987
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: And there's some things that I've heard over the years

988
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: that we asked and people they asked it's like, well,

989
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: how did you hear this?

990
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: Where did you where? Where did you get this from?

991
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: I said, I got my sources too.

992
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: So we try to make sure that we cover everything

993
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: and we as thorough as possible. But my thing is

994
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: gil is that Look, you come to my platform, you talk.

995
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to, you know, trying to. I'm not

996
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: trying to be No, I had no idea where cav

997
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: was gonna go. I had some the only thing that

998
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: I really that he like I said, he went thirty

999
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: minutes and I didn't even get a question in here.

1000
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: I didn't ask the man where he was from, how

1001
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: old he was, how many brothers and sisters. He I

1002
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: ain't ask him anything. He just says, this is what

1003
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: I that's what's on my mind.

1004
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what makes for a great interview sometimes,

1005
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because you know he probably

1006
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: listened to that interview and felt some type of way.

1007
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 3: Obviously did. But you know, it's you have It's like

1008
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: having you you have the ball in your hand, right, Yes, yes,

1009
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: he had the ball in his hand.

1010
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: Yes, right, he's making the call. They're coming to him.

1011
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 3: Like he said, I'm getting all these these things, and

1012
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: I'm I'm trying to change it.

1013
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying I'm not gonna do this.

1014
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: I don't want this. I don't want that. Well, how

1015
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: long before they stop asking you to do stuff? If

1016
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: you're going to keep the nying and trying to change

1017
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: something right before they just move on. So I think

1018
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 3: the problem is is the balls you didn't want, someone

1019
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: else picked them up and became a star with it.

1020
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: Right now, you want to try to diminish the person

1021
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: start them right, he's a plant. No, he probably was

1022
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: a plant.

1023
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: Now he's a fucking tree.

1024
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 3: He's a trip down. Right, he's done got his roots

1025
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: into these grounds and he's stabilized right right.

1026
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: And I think that's the problem.

1027
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 3: When he had the ball, I don't think he capitalized

1028
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: the way he wanted to.

1029
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: Genius.

1030
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 3: What he does is great. We rolls excellent. He plays

1031
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: the hell out of them. You know, some of the

1032
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 3: roles he he he dodged that. He rightfully sold some

1033
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 3: movie rolls he should have took right, But that's his decision.

1034
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: He made the decision, somebody else said I'll do it,

1035
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 3: and they took off. You can't blame a man for

1036
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: taking a job that you didn't want to take.

1037
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not.

1038
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is that when I told people,

1039
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I'm out the gat in twenty

1040
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: four I said, I'm we're gonna break the internet. I said,

1041
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: the guy that I that I got live, I said

1042
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: the person I got teed up Gil. You know, like

1043
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: a lot of times that I've done over one hundred

1044
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: of these just for club. Shan't say much more because

1045
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: I used to do a lot of interviews when I

1046
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: was CBS and so, and you're like, You're like, I

1047
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be really, really, really good, but

1048
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: you don't know. You don't know, because there have been

1049
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: some that I thought I did an excellent job and

1050
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: it didn't get the muse the likes to mention and

1051
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: didn't go viral like I thought it would.

1052
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: And I did some I thought it did was.

1053
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: Okay, but it just took off. But this is when

1054
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 3: I had a sense.

1055
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: And I remember I.

1056
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: Remember asking, you know, talking to Jordan and talking to

1057
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: CJ and and and the makeup and it's like what

1058
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: you think and everybody was just they were just shaking

1059
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: their head.

1060
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: I was like, what there's like, you don't get she

1061
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: They're like, Shannon, this is gonna go crazy. I see.

1062
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you know, I'm trying to stay

1063
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: in my role as the interview earth and not pick aside.

1064
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna you know, he said something funny,

1065
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna laugh, but I'm trying to stay as straight

1066
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: and narrow as I possibly can. I just I'm not

1067
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: trying to push him in any direction. You just go,

1068
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: You just do you ay, And I'm gonna try to

1069
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: follow you wherever you go. And but I'm gonna, you know,

1070
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: if there's something that I think that the audience is

1071
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: gonna want to follow up to, I'm gonna try to

1072
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: get that in there.

1073
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1074
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: But Gil, I mean, I remember walking out and c J,

1075
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: the producer of the show, he called, He's like, Shannon,

1076
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: this is gonna blow up the internet.

1077
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: I say, you think so.

1078
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: I said, I think it was good. He's like, no,

1079
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: you haven't done anything like this, and it's go crazy.

1080
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: It's because you have, because there's a history, and that

1081
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 3: I guess you had already laid the dominoes up for

1082
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: someone who's saying, wait, hold on, I got the ACE

1083
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: cards on all y'all. Hold on, that's not how it's

1084
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: played out. And he gets to show his Trump and.

1085
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: That's what that was.

1086
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 3: You know, there were some episodes that I did and

1087
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: not like this one where someone is getting to Trump

1088
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: and make himself like, no, that's not that's not what happened.

1089
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: That's not what happened, but I had some that after

1090
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: we finished, I said, Yo, we're gonna We're gonna blow.

1091
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: But how does he look at me after this? Because

1092
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: when you're.

1093
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 3: Doing the interview and the guy gets so comfortable, he

1094
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: starts saying.

1095
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: Some things that right, I mean, first, if that's the

1096
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: thank Gil. I'm cool with Steve Harvey. I'm cool with

1097
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: Ricky Smiley, I'm cool with saying Danil. I'm cool with

1098
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart. I know Michael Blackson a little bit, but

1099
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't know him. I don't have his number, but

1100
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm a lot of the people that earthquake Earthquake, my

1101
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: dog I talked all the time. Now he's the guy

1102
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: that I talk to more than any of those guys.

1103
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: But do I have conversations with Steve with Steve Harvin? Absolutely?

1104
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: Have I talked to Kevin Hart. Yeah, been to Kev's

1105
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: house check this car collection, and just saw him at

1106
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: in the Bend the other night. So I have a

1107
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: personal relationship. I'm not saying we boys. They come to

1108
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: my house and I go to the house, but we

1109
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: have a a friendly relationship that we cool. And so

1110
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: my thing is I'm like, well, that's the hardest part

1111
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: because he's talking, He's saying things about people, and I'm like, man,

1112
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: I say, the best thing for me is just to

1113
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: be Swizzerland, stay neutral, ask the questions, and then I'm

1114
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: gonna let the viewing audience. I'm not taking aside. I'm

1115
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: gonna let the viewing audience take their side.

1116
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 3: Uh.

1117
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: Cedric has already responded. Michael Blackson has responded, I don't think.

1118
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know if Camp's gonna respond.

1119
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: But it wasn't that faith one of our faithfuls said

1120
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: that damn la Portier is true. Sir cat took one

1121
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: step Nah, hey what no, Actually we got Jordan could

1122
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: tell you we could have should have had the cameras rolling.

1123
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: When he walked in. Oh he was going already.

1124
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 3: And listen.

1125
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, And I don't think a.

1126
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: Lot of people really understand, like when you're when you're

1127
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 3: coming from the athletics side, you have more integrity, right then?

1128
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, beat writer? Right? Yes, who's trying to make their

1129
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: name off of interviews?

1130
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 3: Right, there's somewhere I had to erase whole twenty thirty

1131
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: minutes of rands. I'm like, oh, no, like if you

1132
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: want to do this on your own, right on your own.

1133
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to put this out. And then

1134
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: you look at me and like, why do you protect me?

1135
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 3: Protect me?

1136
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: Yes? Right, and yeah, and that's the thing. I'm like, wow.

1137
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: And so I just hope and from the from the

1138
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: looks of it, fans have really liked it. That was

1139
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: our goal was to try. Look, my goal is always

1140
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: the same Gil. I try to do the best content

1141
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: I possibly can. I try to get people that I

1142
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: believe people that subscribe, listen, view, watch, download Club Shasha

1143
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: want to hear from. And for the most part, I

1144
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: can get one or two stories that they haven't told

1145
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: or they haven't told in a long time. And if

1146
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: they have told, people don't remember. And so what kat

1147
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: did I mean?

1148
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 3: He did? He did?

1149
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: Miss solid? I mean, because you know, I didn't think

1150
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: he was. I was gonna be able to get him

1151
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: as soon as I did, I didn't. And and at

1152
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: the end of the day, and what I've decided to do,

1153
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm still Club Shasha's best booking agent. Yes, I have

1154
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: a company. I got two companies that helped, but I'm

1155
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: the best booking agents.

1156
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: So I'm just.

1157
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: Gonna go back to you know, hey, get on my phone, hey,

1158
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: bro hey, or go to people's d ms.

1159
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 3: Listen. It was a good it was a good interview.

1160
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: I mean there's nothing there's you know, you know, this

1161
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 3: is between them. They all said their piece and he

1162
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 3: got to.

1163
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: Say his right. That's how this works.

1164
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 3: This this is just having to be last, you know,

1165
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: the man's having to be last.

1166
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: The person that laughed the loudest laugh last got the

1167
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: last laugh.

1168
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 3: That you heard. Yeah, right, and and and and and

1169
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: and because I followed, because I followed comedy so much.

1170
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: I know all these guys joke. I know their material.

1171
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: I know, like I sound like this guy's right, you

1172
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 3: know e T. I used to your comedy view and

1173
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: death comedy. Yeh, absolutely to follow. Yeah, that's all.

1174
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: That's why my human sounds like the nineties. Yeah right,

1175
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: it sounds like.

1176
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: The nineties, that rough, rugged Corey holcomes straight at you

1177
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: type of type of humor.

1178
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: You know, you know what I mean. So guys, where

1179
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: are like, man, you should have blown what happened? Right?

1180
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: You know? So this has been a war for a

1181
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 3: long time. Yeah, with this group, with this group. So

1182
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: it's one of those things where because there's only allowed

1183
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 3: right now, only a few comedians that can be at

1184
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 3: the top. When you get that spot, the only thing

1185
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: you really can do is try to give parts to

1186
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: everyone else. And I think where Kevin has thrived for

1187
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 3: himself is when he can't do something, he puts someone

1188
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: else on.

1189
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, if he can't do something, he puts someone

1190
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: else on.

1191
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: When you was in that position, if you didn't think

1192
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: of that, you can't get mad that he's doing it right, right,

1193
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: you just got to see you know what I mean?

1194
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: Because him, you know, Cat and Mike, Mike Apps, they

1195
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 3: both at the same they both beefing with the same person.

1196
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: You know, he's just a man on the top, and

1197
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 3: he you know, he's.

1198
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: Smarter not to let it go. Now.

1199
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's how I am with my podcast, is

1200
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: that I'm in a position now having a media company,

1201
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: and I get an opportunity to try to help someone

1202
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: that want to help themselves, that want that want to work.

1203
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: Because my whole thing is predicated on hard work and discipline.

1204
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: Now, if you don't bring those things to the table,

1205
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: it's not gonna work for you.

1206
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: And I so let's not waste any you know, let's

1207
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: not waste your time, and more importantly, let's not waste mine.

1208
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: If you want to work, if you're disciplined, if you

1209
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: want to grow this thing. Yes, I'm probably a guy

1210
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: that can help you.

1211
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1212
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: And if I can't, hey, I'll point you in a

1213
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: different direction. Maybe we want different things. Maybe you want

1214
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: X and I can only give you team. But that's okay.

1215
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: But it was a great interview. I'm glad you guys

1216
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: have received it very very well. Is doing very well,

1217
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: very very well on social media, So thank you, guys.

1218
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: I want to get that out because you guys were

1219
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: you guys were who was blowing the chat up? The

1220
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: Warriors doesn't seem like Draymond is even close to coming back.

1221
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: Asked if he's been in contact with Draymond, Steve Kerr said,

1222
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: a little bit. We text, but we're giving him his

1223
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: face and he's giving us ours. Is he going to

1224
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: be back before the All Star Game?

1225
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: Deal? The thing is, if you're the Warriors, if you're Kurt,

1226
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: do you want him back before the All Star Game? Right?

1227
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: Or do you want it back at all? You know,

1228
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: that's I think that's the question.

1229
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 3: Givel It all depends on how Kaminga's playing, right, You

1230
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: know my decision is going to be off kaminga.

1231
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: What am I trying to do with the rest of

1232
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 2: the season. I'm trying to savor it? Am I trying to?

1233
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: You know? Are we trying to make the playoffs? If not, Hey, Draymond,

1234
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: you know, take as much time as you want. You're

1235
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: not in the rush, you know. I I'm looking your

1236
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 3: mental health is more important then you're coming in here winning,

1237
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: you know, trying to win games. So right now it's

1238
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 3: more about, you know, relax, take a break, recalibrate, and

1239
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 3: think about what you want to do with the next

1240
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: four years or five years of your career.

1241
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: It's tough, Yeah, it's really tough, Gil, because Draymond is

1242
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: has meant so much to this organization, and when you

1243
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: mean so much, it's hard to let go. And the

1244
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: question that I that I asked that I had this

1245
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: conversation with Perk. I said, well, Perk, let me.

1246
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: Pitch it to you like this.

1247
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: It seems to me any time someone tried to challenge

1248
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: Draymond for that Big three, he lashed out. If you

1249
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: look at him with Kevin Durant, because all of a

1250
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: sudden Katie comes in there. I mean, look, I understand

1251
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: you guys have been there, you're one before KD. But

1252
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that was a of a place in

1253
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: Katie's like give me that rock, give me that rock

1254
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: and dre mail like Draymond was like, hey, bro, I

1255
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: was making play for you. Got here, give you nuts,

1256
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: get down there, and I'm gonna get you the ball.

1257
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: So that uh, you see Jordan Poole Now, also Jordan

1258
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: Poole coming off a great seaton. They mentioned Jordan Poole.

1259
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: He's a new member of the Big three Kaminga. So

1260
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: it seemed like Draymond was didn't want to give up

1261
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: that spot as a member of the Big three, or

1262
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: his spot is the member. Maybe he now all of

1263
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: a sudden is poor, but you're not three. And it

1264
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: seems like he lashes out when he feels that onslaught

1265
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: coming on. What do you think, well, is there any validity,

1266
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: any truth to what I'm saying? What do you think

1267
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: is going on with Draymond? That's a real thing. It's

1268
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: like it's like if anybody's a pet lover and you

1269
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: have a dog, right, you had a dog for he

1270
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: is vin lawyer and you're bringing a new dog, right, Yeah,

1271
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: that old dog is jealous, Yes.

1272
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you know, and and it's gonna nick, Piggy's

1273
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 3: gonna bar, it's gonna do whatever it tasts. Yeah, rid

1274
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 3: of it, right, we know that, right. Uh, it's the

1275
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 3: same thing in locker rooms, right, you know, he devoted

1276
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: himself to this team, these players, and just like anything,

1277
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 3: you got an upgrade and you being a psychofashional lamb.

1278
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 3: I don't think he was ready for it. You know

1279
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: when Katie came on, Katie's name was Katie, and and

1280
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: he's like, I'm not no fourth will member him.

1281
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm not the I'm not the one out. Like when

1282
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 2: you put the billboard's Big.

1283
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: Three is the big three bill board?

1284
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, the Big three bill board. And it probably

1285
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: did hurt his pride a little bit.

1286
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: If it wasn't going to change the way he played,

1287
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 3: it probably be some of the outburst towards teammates, right right, right,

1288
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: you know that's the difference between Dennis Robin a U

1289
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: d Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason's them. They didn't do it

1290
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: to their teammates.

1291
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: No, Right, That's that's the thing that so look I

1292
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: understand is that that's the problem is that you lashing

1293
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: out of the teammate and.

1294
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: It's tough.

1295
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: It's tough when you've been that dog and it's like, nah, bro,

1296
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: you ain't fit to come up here.

1297
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: This this it's like kids.

1298
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: A kid, A kid is the only kid for a while,

1299
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: and you bring a new kid in there, and see

1300
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: what happened if you don't play attention to do it.

1301
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,479
Speaker 1: You see when we talk about pets, we talk about

1302
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: we talk about kids.

1303
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 3: Yes, it's just natural.

1304
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: I think the thing is for for.

1305
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: For me.

1306
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: The way I looked at it again is like, look,

1307
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: there's enough pie for all of us to eat. Now

1308
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: we might not get the same slights. I understood that

1309
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: John Elway and Terrell Davis was gonna get the biggest

1310
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: slice of the pot or cake or whatever dessert it was,

1311
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: but we won.

1312
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 3: I don't get to eat.

1313
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: I might not have got free schools like they did,

1314
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: but that one school was gonna be well plenty. And

1315
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't think enough guys think like that. It's like,

1316
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: but it's not the three schools that I normally get it.

1317
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: And that's what it is. I was getting three scoops.

1318
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 3: Now you say you want to give two scoops two

1319
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 3: of my schools to him, and I don't know him

1320
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: like that, right.

1321
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: He got two of my schools. I'm stuck with one.

1322
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 3: Nah, And time time comes, you get replaced, you get moved.

1323
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 3: And you got to understand the pecking order of just

1324
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: the game itself.

1325
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: When you was the third option, you did your job.

1326
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 3: We would not or rings without you, right you. You

1327
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 3: you have done it.

1328
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: You've done what you've done.

1329
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 3: You put us in a position to keep moving forward,

1330
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 3: right right, And and that's and I don't think sometimes

1331
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 3: we understand that part the decision is going to be hard.

1332
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 3: And I think that's why, you know, the main guy

1333
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: stepped down and gave it a done. Leave you make

1334
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 3: this move?

1335
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't want to make this because

1336
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: I want this on my hands. I'm attached to it.

1337
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: It is like trying to telling one of your kids, hey,

1338
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 3: you gotta go. You can't write kid, right, And sometimes

1339
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 3: you can't do that. And I wouldn't be able to.

1340
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 3: You won four championships with me. I don't know if

1341
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 3: I can let you go like that. I would probably

1342
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 3: just be on the thing like hey, I'm I'm gonna

1343
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 3: pay you, but you know I'm not gonna play. I

1344
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 3: don't want to trade you because I want you to,

1345
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 3: you know, retire here. There's just so much when it

1346
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 3: comes to the loyalty part that it's gonna be hard.

1347
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 3: Ain't know what I mean, because it's it is, it is.

1348
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: But you know what, you know, the way I looked

1349
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: at it at every situation is that I looked at

1350
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: it like I left it better than I found it.

1351
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: And if you, if you are what you believe you are,

1352
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: you will never be forgotten. I haven't played football in

1353
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: twenty years, but I tell you what they were Altimore.

1354
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: They remember what I did with the Ravens. They remember

1355
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: what I did in Denver. That's all I can do.

1356
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: So I can come there and give you everything I

1357
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: possibly got. I'm gonna lay it all on the line

1358
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: for you. But when it's my time, when you say, shah,

1359
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: it is your time, believe got togotiate. I appreciate the

1360
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: two years you gave me. I appreciate the twelve years

1361
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: you gave me.

1362
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: That's it. Hey, you know, I hope he's in you know,

1363
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 2: good spirit.

1364
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 3: I hope he's taking his time to risk, you know,

1365
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 3: not reflect on why you're suspended, reflect on the great

1366
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 3: things you have done for the games, right that. You know.

1367
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: I think sometimes when we're penalized, we try to figure out,

1368
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 3: you know, why are we in this position? Right? And

1369
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 3: you know what could I have done to sit back

1370
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 3: and like, think about your rookie season and you won

1371
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 3: your four championship, right, think about the good things you

1372
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 3: did because in real time, we don't look at our life.

1373
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 3: We don't look into your life until you're done and

1374
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 3: you get to go over plays that you forgot because

1375
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 3: you just you were a machine like player. Right now

1376
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 3: he gets to sit back and reflect on the greatness

1377
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 3: he's done. Think it.

1378
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: But Gil the man is a second round draft pick.

1379
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: If somebody would have told him said, you know what,

1380
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna let you play a decade plus, you win

1381
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: four titles, you'll win the Pensive Player of the Year,

1382
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: you'll be an All NBA player.

1383
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: Man, he just jumped on that with both feet. Yes, yes, sir,

1384
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: And I think that's what he needs to think about

1385
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: all of us.

1386
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 3: When when KT heard his achilles, I said, think about

1387
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 3: how great you played up until now. Yes, reflect on

1388
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 3: what you've done great, so you know where you're going

1389
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 3: later when you get back healthy, you have a clear

1390
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 3: path and where you're going, and I said, take it

1391
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 3: from me.

1392
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: I was so into the moment of trying.

1393
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 3: To, you know, get my place back, that I didn't

1394
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 3: even enjoy the process. I put so much stress on

1395
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 3: myself to try to get back my game that I

1396
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 3: didn't realize that I wasn't healthy. Right right now, I

1397
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 3: wasn't healthy. I'm sitting there. I got I had three

1398
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 3: knee surgeries in fourteen months, and.

1399
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 2: It was never the same.

1400
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: You can't keep going. You can't keep going into the

1401
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: body and think you're gonna be the same.

1402
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1403
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: Oh facts, and you know the thank you gil Oh,

1404
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: he haven't minor surgery. Minor surgery only happened to someone else.

1405
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 1: It's major. When it happened to you, he hadn't minded surgery.

1406
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: Hold on, you had the same surgeon said it was major.

1407
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: Clay said something very interesting. Clay seemed to have accepted

1408
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: that he's not the same player used to be. Last night,

1409
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: he revealed he had a conversation with Steve Kerr about

1410
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: the need to improve negative energy, be a better mentor

1411
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: enjoy the last chapter of his career rather than obsess

1412
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: over stats of performance. It's tough how tough is it

1413
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: for a player to know they've got no It seems

1414
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: like Steve Kirk could tell him something that he called us,

1415
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about. I know what

1416
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: I can see. I see better than I hear. I

1417
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: know what you're saying, that you're the same guy, but

1418
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:20,839
Speaker 1: that ain't.

1419
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: What I see.

1420
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 3: Reality takes a while to catch up with us. It's

1421
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 3: just that when you get old, reality takes a while.

1422
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 3: It takes it takes a good ass whooping in the

1423
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 3: game to realize, oh, we ain't the same player no more.

1424
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 3: And I think that's where the problem lies is he knows,

1425
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 3: deep down inside he's not the same player, and he

1426
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: was hoping that them four Rings paid him this. It

1427
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 3: gave him the extension to reflect versus going out the

1428
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 3: way he's going out.

1429
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: He should have took that too. He should have took

1430
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: that two year forty eight You still that two year

1431
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: forty eight years.

1432
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 3: And that's the problem, Like in his mind, Okay, I

1433
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 3: know I'm not worth forty three forty four, but I'm

1434
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 3: not worth twenty I'm not worth twenty something. I'm a

1435
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 3: reason I'm thirty five at least. Yeah, right, And but Gil,

1436
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 3: you're worth what you getting. Yes, you You're only worth

1437
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 3: what somebody's willing to pay. People like man, I wouldn't

1438
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: pay twenty million for no house, okay, but somebody else did.

1439
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't pay two million for a car, but somebody

1440
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 3: else will. Worth is only determined by what someone is

1441
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 3: willing to pay for it. That's what worth is. You

1442
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 3: don't get determine your worth because you don't get to say.

1443
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: You don't get to pay yourself. Hey, how bet ef here,

1444
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:57,560
Speaker 3: Hey give me forty million a year? Hey hey, that

1445
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 3: sounds like.

1446
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: Ladies and on. Hey know your work?

1447
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: Know your self worth? Girl, I work, I worth this,

1448
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 3: I worth that, not if a dude they willing to

1449
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 3: give it to you. You not that. I understand you.

1450
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: You think you worth a burking bag and a colorist

1451
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: and a private jet.

1452
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 3: I get that.

1453
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: You think you're supposed to get all of that, But

1454
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: that ain't how I value you. Yes, so unless look

1455
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: he ain't nowel. I had a situation. I was talking

1456
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: to this young lady and she said, I want to

1457
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: watch so you know, I'm thinking you don't what you want?

1458
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: I want an ap, Gil, I only got one ap

1459
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 1: Now I got one ap after playing fourteen years in

1460
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 1: the NFL, being a Hall of Famer and having a

1461
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: seventeen year career in TV.

1462
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 3: I got one AP and you come in and say you.

1463
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 2: Want an AP up AP.

1464
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: I say, hey, get again, I'll see And she said,

1465
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: if you don't get it, we can't see each other.

1466
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 3: No more cool.

1467
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 2: I walked right downstairs. She gil right hand before God.

1468
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: She already knew I was gonna get it because as

1469
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: I walking, as I'm walking down the stairs, she had

1470
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: an oober out there waiting. She already knew I was

1471
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: gonna get it. I saw, I saw Gil. I saw

1472
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: three days later, guess what she had on? Oh I

1473
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: g ap. Somebody got it. Oh Shay Sharp was gonna

1474
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: get it. And she's still single. Uh and and and

1475
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: and that's and that that's the problem I get.

1476
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 3: It's like you know, Dayton, Dayton today is is it's

1477
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 3: it's it's different because it's self worth and that's not

1478
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 3: a real thing. Right, You're worth what I what you

1479
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: bring to the right. Yes, I have a table. You

1480
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 3: can't say you are the table. I have a table.

1481
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,560
Speaker 3: So that means I'm gonna take your table put it

1482
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: in because my table is gonna be more expensive, So

1483
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put your table in the closet. Mean, you're

1484
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 3: not worth nothing to me? Are you gonna bring food

1485
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 3: to this table? Are you going to bring chairs to

1486
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: this table? You're worth is what someone needs at the time.

1487
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 3: If I have a quarterback, you can't be a quarterback.

1488
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 3: Sit on me. I got I got Lamar, I got

1489
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahome. I don't need to know what it is

1490
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 3: you receiver? Can you block? Can you tackle? And that's

1491
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 3: and and and I don't think women totally understand that

1492
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: your value is not the value you think, it's the

1493
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 3: value they need from you. Right, yes, yes, So don't

1494
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 3: be telling me what oh I got? If you ever

1495
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 3: tell me, oh, I know some some in words, some

1496
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 3: ninjas that'll.

1497
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 1: Do this, well, I need to see it. You got

1498
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: to get up out of here. Could I'm not you

1499
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: tell me what somebody else will do? Well, I'm gonna

1500
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: give you that opportunity to go fulfill your obligation, your dream,

1501
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: because clearly I'm holding you back.

1502
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: You nothing.

1503
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 3: You not finna hold me hostage and try to make

1504
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 3: a guilt trip me and oh my last but okay,

1505
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 3: why you not with him? I mean every time I

1506
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 3: see you in an uber So what a coloringy? You

1507
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So what what? What? What?

1508
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: What a lambow truck? You're telling me what all these

1509
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: boyfriends did for you? And you were in Bali and

1510
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 1: you and and the mall deed and you.

1511
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1512
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: You are there Mafie Coast where that at.

1513
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 3: You are?

1514
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: You around me like a bumba bee humming and bummy,

1515
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: and you telling me what they did where I don't

1516
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: see it.

1517
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 3: Held hold on?

1518
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: You donet name some some places I've never even heard of.

1519
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 3: What kind of women you going to? I'm just tell

1520
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 3: you what they now.

1521
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 2: If it's a lot, they told it, I'm just telling

1522
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: me that.

1523
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 3: And every time I see him, they on vacation, so

1524
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 3: clearly somebody, but you know what, I see them, but

1525
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 3: I don't see the dude. So and I'm cool.

1526
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 2: I ain't got no problem with that.

1527
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 3: Hey, to each his own.

1528
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you, you can't guilt trip me

1529
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: and to do with something. Okay, if I do something,

1530
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with out of the kindness my heart,

1531
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: not because I'm trying to win up another dude. Because

1532
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't care what he what he does, if that

1533
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: he might make five hundred million him giving you a

1534
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 1: p and versus me giving you an AP.

1535
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 4: Nah.

1536
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: Nah, I got other responsibilities. I got grandkids now, I

1537
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: got kids. I got a mom, I got sister, I

1538
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: got brothers, I got overhead ny and and and and

1539
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: and what you offering ain't no AP, ain't. And I'm

1540
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: just sobb just gonna.

1541
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: Keep it real.

1542
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 3: And that's and that's that, that's the that's the Golden

1543
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 3: State speech to Claire. Hey, you ain't worth no AP.

1544
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm just whatever happened to a what happened to a rolling?

1545
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 3: I remember what a rolling was? The joint he now

1546
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 3: talk about AP. They won't protect if they won't bush

1547
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 3: around constant time.

1548
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I don't even know what that is.

1549
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, they won't, Jacob, I want I phone.

1550
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 2: They gotta got They got the time right there on

1551
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: our phone.

1552
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 3: Hey, give man a man a like I said, I look,

1553
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 3: and I'm more of a I'm more of a guy

1554
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 3: that I'll give.

1555
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: But when you come to me sideways, I'm a book.

1556
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: It's a symboling that I'm a book. I ain't gonna

1557
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: even lie to you.

1558
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be honest when when when women do that,

1559
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 3: I'm putting you in the category and that that category

1560
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 3: has a short road. Right, either you either you won't

1561
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: these items or you want longeopardy you want you want

1562
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 3: the ATM, or you want the safe.

1563
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 2: Right it's your choice if you want to If you want.

1564
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 3: The ATM right now, yeah, I'll get you that. But

1565
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 3: this is this is the road you on. Eventually, I'm

1566
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 3: gonna cut this cord and I'm gonna focus on the

1567
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 3: one who wants to build the bank with me. And

1568
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 3: the thing about the ATM, you have to put money

1569
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 3: back in it.

1570
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 2: Yep. So the safe is unlimited, unlimited, but they don't.

1571
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 3: It's say des da all, Hey, I'm sorry, Gil and

1572
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 3: I got up on this tangent.

1573
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 2: No I'm not.

1574
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna be off on another tangent next weeesday.

1575
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 2: We're gonna be on the tangent year next week.

1576
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: Pat Bell says Joe LMB is on pace to have

1577
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: the greatest season all time. If he finished the season

1578
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: the way he's playing now, it will be the greatest

1579
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: season of a single player that's ever played the game

1580
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 1: of basketball. He's leading the league in scoring with averaging

1581
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: about thirty five points a game. He returned to the

1582
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: lineup on Tuesday for the first time since December twenty second,

1583
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: dropped thirty thirty one fifteen to ten on the Bulls.

1584
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 1: It's his fifteenth straight game with it. He's thirty points

1585
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: and ten rebounds he averaged. He averaged forty points for

1586
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: the month of December on sixty one forty two ninety

1587
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: two splits the Sixers in or Tuesday, out scoring there

1588
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: points by about ten points a game. With a b

1589
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: and on the floor, Pat bell I like Pat belv

1590
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: I really do. He got an opportunity to see him

1591
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: around from time to time, being at the Lakers game

1592
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: last year, got an opportunity.

1593
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 2: He come over, he hollered at me.

1594
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: So we're gonna say, like Will seasons didn't exist, Jordan's

1595
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: season didn't exist, COVID season didn't exist.

1596
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to figure out and I get it.

1597
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: People act like today like whatever you see today, that's

1598
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 1: the greatest, that's the best food, that's the best car,

1599
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: that was the best closed bro. So when somebody when

1600
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: he does fifty twenty five, when he does forty four

1601
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: to twenty seven, will never averaged less than eighteen rebounds

1602
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: a season.

1603
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 3: He averaged thirty points in twenty three rebounds for a season.

1604
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: Look at some of Jordan's season, Look at Kobe's season,

1605
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: Look at hardened season. It's hard They had like thirty

1606
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: games where he average thirty had at least thirty points.

1607
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Joe el Embiid is having a

1608
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: hell of a season, but bro, just because someone is

1609
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: having a historic season, that doesn't mean we just gotta

1610
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: we just discount everything that's ever that's ever happened up

1611
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 1: until this point.

1612
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 2: Oh no, he can't drug test tomorrow on uh pa,

1613
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: come on, have been this room real quick?

1614
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 3: Go ahead to put your shirt up and go hear

1615
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 3: peenis cup. We're gonna have to test you.

1616
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: On that statement.

1617
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 3: Come on?

1618
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 2: Like eighty eight, like a eighty eight is a season

1619
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 2: to be remembered.

1620
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 3: All the accolades that was won by one man, which

1621
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 3: probably would never happen again.

1622
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: No like that, when the scoring, when the scoring title,

1623
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: the MVP, Defensive Player.

1624
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 3: Of the Year NVP, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1625
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 3: There was a one man tangent that that's never gonna

1626
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 3: happen again. For Pat this might be the best season

1627
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 3: that he's ever seen, been a part of and a

1628
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: part of or seen period Like yeah, Jordan eighty you

1629
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 3: we wasn't you know, we was a little we wasn't watching. Yeah, yeah,

1630
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 3: you're right, you know what I mean. And you we

1631
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 3: get to understand what that was. So we can read

1632
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 3: the stats. So for the basketball minds, the eighty eight

1633
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 3: their eighty one. For me right watching you know, t

1634
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 3: Mac hit sixty two while I'm on the court, right,

1635
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 3: those are games like oh man, right, So him watching

1636
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 3: it in real time, that statement is coming from real

1637
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 3: life experience, right, not not not history, right, this is

1638
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 3: this ain't a history. This is what he's seen while

1639
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 3: he's been playing the game of basket.

1640
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: Right, and Steph winning are the MVP unanimous. He's the

1641
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: only guy that's ever won that. And he's a guard

1642
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: and he led the league in scoring. I mean, there

1643
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: have been some great season have to go back and look,

1644
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 1: but we'll probably got five of them.

1645
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 3: But like you know, in today's game, you're trying to

1646
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 3: you know, with these players, you know what they're gonna

1647
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 3: remember is they'll remember Kobe's eighty one, yeah three on

1648
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 3: the MAVs. You remember h Russell's tripple double that first year,

1649
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 3: that triple double Cson where yes you remember that, Yes,

1650
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 3: that Steph Curry when everybody was on like with that

1651
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 3: seventy three and nine that year, you don't remember that, right,

1652
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 3: you know. So there's there's there's these glimpses in James

1653
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 3: Harden's tangent.

1654
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, joker at the beginning of the

1655
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: season last year.

1656
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: But I think with thirty five a game from the

1657
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: big man, the way he's doing it, this could go

1658
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 3: down within the last ten years. That's probably one of

1659
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 3: the best. Yeah, you know, and you know you're right there.

1660
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 3: That's your guy, that's your teammates. So yeah, you're gonna

1661
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 3: give him actual little love.

1662
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you're at a call. You adam a little

1663
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: used to it, sort to grow a little more.

1664
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: You wanted to check. Go ahead, make philosophony for two

1665
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: more years.

1666
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1667
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: I tell people, all our basketball fans go back and

1668
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: look at that sixty one sixty two season and look

1669
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: at the numbers that those guys put up, because we'll

1670
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: average fifty twenty five.

1671
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: But that was also the year that Oscar average the

1672
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 2: triple double.

1673
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1674
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: That was also the year that Jared.

1675
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: West was I think thirty points five rebound six or

1676
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: sis Walt Bellamy average like thirty five, thirty one and nineteen.

1677
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: Elgum Baylor was like thirty and seventeen. Go back and

1678
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: look at that season. Sixty you want sixty two. They believe,

1679
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: many believe it's the greatest statistical season for individuals in

1680
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: a in a basketball season. But that's not to throw

1681
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: shady because Joel andb is playing unbelievable, unbelievable and right

1682
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: now I think he and Joker have separated themselves from

1683
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: the pack.

1684
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 2: I think those are clearly the two best players.

1685
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: And there's no knock on Giannis, lebron K d anybody,

1686
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: but those two big guys right there, they're the best.

1687
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 3: They're they're the best at it right now. They're the

1688
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 3: best at what they're doing. I mean, they're they're they're

1689
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 3: really balling. I mean, you can throw Luca in there,

1690
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: but Luke, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Luca's doing is impressive too.

1691
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 2: But you know, the big guys right now are really dominating.

1692
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 3: And you know, Jordan beat is dominating, you know, scoring

1693
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 3: mostly in Jokers, dominating just overall basketball on how it's played.

1694
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Westbrookner is the top twenty five and scoring drawings.

1695
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: He joins Lebron James and Oscar Robinson as the only

1696
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 1: the only two players in the top twenty five in scoring,

1697
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: top ten assist.

1698
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: How should we remember Russ as a first ballot Hall

1699
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 3: of Famer? Yeah, absolutely, that's what he is. I mean,

1700
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 3: he's a guy that you know came in. He is

1701
01:25:55,720 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 3: the ideal player when you when you're talking about that

1702
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 3: that speech you gotta give in a championship, right, we

1703
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 3: need to go out and we need to play one

1704
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: hundred and ten percent every possession. But that he's that

1705
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 3: guy that you're you're telling everyone else to be right.

1706
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 3: He's the guy you're telling everybody you don't have to

1707
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 3: prep him up. You don't have He is ready to

1708
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 3: go every game. We never looked at a game and

1709
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 3: said Russell was Russell didn't have it a day, or

1710
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 3: he would know I didn't give it. He's giving you

1711
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten percent every goal. Ever.

1712
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 1: He ain't never, he ain't never short change never, he

1713
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: ain never. He's never showed up for work without his

1714
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: hard hat and his work boots. You paid him on

1715
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: honest salary. He gave you honest day's work now did

1716
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: he was high turnover shore, but he did his take

1717
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 1: some illvis shots.

1718
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I know I

1719
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 3: could count on Russ Man ru Russ you never, You'll never.

1720
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: Nobody has played harder game, any game out, year in

1721
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 1: and year out.

1722
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about the great the rusk Ye, not

1723
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 2: every not every game.

1724
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 1: He played every game like man, I don't I don't

1725
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: even know, not only about I might not even be

1726
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: here tomorrow. I might not be in the NBA, I

1727
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: might not be alive. I might be on Mars, I

1728
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 1: might be a Jupiter. He played every game like he

1729
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: was his last game.

1730
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 4: Yes, And that's and that's what we need to remember, right,

1731
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 4: you know, it's everything else is his opinion perception.

1732
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: Right.

1733
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 3: You know, you're you're rebounding. That's a hustle. You're you're

1734
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 3: you're knocking the man for hustling, now, right, you know,

1735
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 3: I like, there's we were talking, there's Lopez. Can you

1736
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 3: get ten rebound? Goddamn no, he ain't never average ten

1737
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 3: rebound in the season. And as a.

1738
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: Say, oh no, probably like seven to eight.

1739
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 3: But that's the thing that Russell gets your your your

1740
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 3: stat chasing rebounds and then the big man who's supposed

1741
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 3: to get it ain't doing it right. He needs stat

1742
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 3: Chase too. It gets a rebounds, that's what you can't

1743
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 3: he do it?

1744
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1745
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 3: Eight point six broke, you know. So you know if

1746
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 3: I have a low pass, I need a Russell. Yeah,

1747
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 3: get the rebounds he can't get, you know what I mean?

1748
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 3: So you know when you have a guy like that

1749
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 3: that's gonna give your I'm gonna write that check to

1750
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 3: him every time because I know as long as he can,

1751
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 3: as long as he puts on that jersey, he's gonna

1752
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 3: give me my money's worse.

1753
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 2: That's all you can ask a man.

1754
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

1755
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: Does OKC have the best best core players in the league.

1756
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: Chandler Parsons says, I think it's not even closed that

1757
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: the thunder have the best cord now and they have

1758
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: the best cord moving forward.

1759
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 3: Core is that two players, three players.

1760
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 1: Are we Well, they got every every every Williams that

1761
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: lives in Oklahoma's on the team. They got like felm

1762
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: guys named Williams on the team. So Jayler Williams well

1763
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: with a why and the other with a al.

1764
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 3: Because but I mean your cores, your core right now

1765
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 3: is Shaye chet. I mean starting the season, Giddy was

1766
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 3: part of that corps. But you know he went from

1767
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 3: averaging sixteen to averaging twelve this year, so he's having

1768
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 3: a down year.

1769
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 2: You know, he's averaging.

1770
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 3: Less than he did his rookie year. You know, his

1771
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 3: rookie year is twelve eight and but twelve eight and

1772
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 3: six this year is twelve six and four.

1773
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: So is he part of my core?

1774
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 3: Really? I got two players? I mean, you know, are

1775
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 3: they are those three better than Fox Bonus and Murray

1776
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 3: Grizzlies Job Bain and Jaron Raptors quickly buried in Barnes.

1777
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you got a few teams out

1778
01:29:56,360 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 3: there that got a nice little young nucleus, right, I mean,

1779
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 3: if you want to say they got one of the

1780
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,839
Speaker 3: best young players, Okay, I get that with Shaye obviously,

1781
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 3: you know he's right there. What did he like twenty

1782
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 3: two to twenty three?

1783
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: Yep four And when you look at it, and now

1784
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you said this, uh Perkin,

1785
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: I was talking about it on our first tape and

1786
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about the trade. Is that Doc was explaining

1787
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: said like you know, hey, Kawhi, I think you need

1788
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: to get us killed a chance, and he's like, no,

1789
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 1: if you don't get PG, if I can't get PG,

1790
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go to the other team. And

1791
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:41,759
Speaker 1: Perkin I was and I agree, shave better than Paul George.

1792
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: Yeah right now, shave better than Kawhi.

1793
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not talking about I'm talking about Kawhi

1794
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 3: right now. Now.

1795
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Kawhi got accolades. Why is a two time finals champ

1796
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 1: either a two time finals MVP.

1797
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 2: There's no denying that.

1798
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 3: But shape better right now? Oh yeah, I mean shit,

1799
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 3: he was better, and he was better last year. Be

1800
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 3: better it was and I can count on him. You're

1801
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 3: gonna play, You're gonna give me family games, Yeah, I

1802
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 3: mean that's what they have. One guy, they have chat

1803
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 3: and then from there, you know, you know, you know

1804
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 3: you got you got giddy. I mean, you know, like

1805
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 3: job Bain and Jaron, you know, seems like a more

1806
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 3: solid three. Yeah, there's a three. It's you know, it's three,

1807
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 3: you know, to be honest, because they're still young. I

1808
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 3: mean Boston, I mean it's yeah, I mean with with

1809
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 3: with with with with Tatum Brown and and Derek and

1810
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 3: then and and and White. Yeah, Tatum Brown and White

1811
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 3: I mean and Fzeene. I mean, but you know with

1812
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 3: those two you still got a solid unit. So you

1813
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 3: know when it makes statements like you know, core, they

1814
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 3: have a nice core, like how young you're talking? So

1815
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 3: you can cut out some of these numbers, but you know, right,

1816
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 3: you know, grizzlies raptor grizzly sacking.

1817
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 2: Okay, see they're right, they're right.

1818
01:31:54,800 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: There, right, I agree, Uh, Metal says wimble wimbley wom Minyama.

1819
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: For sure, what's going one hundred and one points in

1820
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: the NBA game? When Miyama is the closest to Will

1821
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: that we'll ever see, he's going to run into Detroit

1822
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 1: Pistons from a year or twenty of the Clippers twenty

1823
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: years ago, He's going to get one hundred and one?

1824
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,640
Speaker 2: Can we drug tests retired players too?

1825
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? They should.

1826
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 2: He must have been I've been trying to make sure.

1827
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: Ain't none of my bottle's been open behind me, Gil,

1828
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 1: because he clearly broke it behind They drank a whole bottle.

1829
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, people just they make us. First

1830
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 1: of all, obviously, he's skilled. He's seven fourth for seven

1831
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: three and a half seven four.

1832
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 3: He's skilled.

1833
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 1: He can shoot like no other seven four guys that

1834
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: we've ever seen got nice handles. But do you know how,

1835
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean, how incredibly efficient you're gonna have to be

1836
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:53,759
Speaker 1: to get one hundred points?

1837
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, if we rewind time and go back to

1838
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 3: the year, there's the shocks when he lost that scoring

1839
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 3: title to David Robinson.

1840
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: David Robinson at seventy one.

1841
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so how he got that seventy one is it

1842
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 3: could be a possibility.

1843
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 2: For women.

1844
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 3: But his team don't like him like that where they

1845
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 3: was force feeding David Robinson.

1846
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,799
Speaker 2: So he can beat that scoring title right right now.

1847
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 3: If he had teammates like David Robinson didn' say you

1848
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 3: want to score one hundred one, we just gonna give

1849
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 3: you the ball every single time and we're just gonna

1850
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 3: see if you can break it. I do on That

1851
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 3: ain't today's basketball, right, It's unlike look at well when

1852
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 3: you go look at look at it.

1853
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: Look at how many shots when Cobe scored eighty, When

1854
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: Will scored.

1855
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 3: One hundred, I think he shot like forty eight times.

1856
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: He was twenty eight if I'm not mistaken, he was

1857
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: like twenty eight to thirty two from the free throw line.

1858
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: What's the likelihood of somebody getting a forty eight shots

1859
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 1: in an NBA game. Now, Kobe got up fifty his

1860
01:33:58,920 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 1: last game, he scored six.

1861
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, it'd be okay. So when you talk about

1862
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 3: something like that, like it has to be one of

1863
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 3: those days where the team is like, Okay, we're gonna

1864
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 3: allow you to do this. And the fact that he

1865
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 3: is seventy six and most of that most of those

1866
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 3: buckets can be right under the basket, right right, it

1867
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,719
Speaker 3: won't happen. But let's say, hey, I need one hundred

1868
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 3: and one points to break the scoring record, and the

1869
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 3: teammates be like, all, I bet, let's do this. But

1870
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 3: do you really? But not in a competitive game. No,

1871
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 3: he won in a competitive game. And plus, you're gonna

1872
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 3: have to shoot.

1873
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna probably have to shoot somewhere between thirty and

1874
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: forty free throws and you're gonna have to make like

1875
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 1: ninety five percent of them. Yeah, but he gets you

1876
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 1: free those What's what's what's Weimby's free throw issue? Now,

1877
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 1: will that was your greatest free throw that night? He

1878
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: went twenty eight or thirty two. It was men, It

1879
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: was men, it was man. But and the thing was

1880
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 1: they were stolen the ball. They didn't want they didn't

1881
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: want him to get they didn't want him to get it.

1882
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 1: So they're just like, he's shooting seventy eight percent, so

1883
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: he's got so in other words, he got to shoot

1884
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: like sixty free throws.

1885
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 3: It makes like forty four forty eight.

1886
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I said.

1887
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 3: It's it's unrealistic. It's just one of those days. It's

1888
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 3: just it's gonna be one of those days where if.

1889
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 2: And they're not gonna let you do it. Gil.

1890
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 1: You remember you remember when book Book had that streak.

1891
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: I think he had like three games in a row

1892
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 1: he had averaged like fifty and then he had like forty,

1893
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 1: like forty four with like five minutes to go, and

1894
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: they just triple team and like, no, you're not finna

1895
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: do this. You're not gonna You're not finna get fifty

1896
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: on us again. Nope, Nope, nope, it ain't gonna happen.

1897
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Priabe from the other team is yeah. But

1898
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 1: that's where that's where the filon comes in too, where

1899
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 1: I don't.

1900
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 3: Want you to score something filure you earn it at

1901
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 3: the free throw line, right, you know, So I'm a

1902
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 3: film he needed to be drug testing. Two. That's all.

1903
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 2: Mike.

1904
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: Ask you Julia ass as a forty three year old man,

1905
01:35:58,240 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate the relationship combo.

1906
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 2: I knew getting old and dating.

1907
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 1: I knew I was getting old looking at the dating

1908
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 1: scene DC to Virginia Beach.

1909
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 2: It's wild out here. It's wild.

1910
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 3: I here, Wow, it is.

1911
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna lie like.

1912
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 3: It's just I guess it's just the expectations that has

1913
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 3: been set.

1914
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 2: I tell women, and it is this rough, and it

1915
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 2: is rough.

1916
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 3: Bring bring.

1917
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 2: The value you need to bring.

1918
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 3: I can outsource it.

1919
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,799
Speaker 2: If I can't outsource your value, then that's the value

1920
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 2: that you need to bring to me. If I can

1921
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 2: outsource it, why clean I can?

1922
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 3: I can. I can get a made you cool, I

1923
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 3: can get the chef, right, I can give you a

1924
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 3: little bit of this. I can pay for that for

1925
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 3: somebody else.

1926
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1927
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 3: If I can outsource the responsibilities, then you're not worth

1928
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 3: what you're thinking.

1929
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 2: Wow, I can't bring me peace. One thing that the

1930
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: one thing they can't fucking do sometime, bring me no

1931
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 2: distractions while they're sitting there. Hey, I mean that's what

1932
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 2: I mean.

1933
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 3: We're simple, It's it's it's simple. It's simple, right, It's.

1934
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 2: It's the.

1935
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 3: Attention, right, And and women don't understand this for men, right,

1936
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 3: especially a working man. If if if we're working and

1937
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 3: we're doing all of this and our life is the

1938
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 3: way it is, right, and we're dating and I just

1939
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 3: finished my job and I'm going out there to chill,

1940
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 3: what changes is now I have to entertain you. That's

1941
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 3: not peace for me, right, that's not if I gotta Now,

1942
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 3: I gotta entertain you. Hey, you got to show me

1943
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 3: some affection to day. It's easier to remove you and I.

1944
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 2: Don't have to do that, right versus now I just

1945
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 2: left job.

1946
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 3: Now I got to entertain you for two hours before

1947
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 3: Now I can go to sleep or do this and

1948
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 3: do that, like it becomes now a job versus Hey,

1949
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 3: while I'm at work, you do something and then you know,

1950
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 3: when you're done and I'm done, we come and we

1951
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 3: can enjoy each other's space versus now I gotta entertain

1952
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 3: you and make you feel important, in which that becomes

1953
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 3: another chore for a man you look at, that's that's

1954
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 3: another job for you, another job, yeah, and.

1955
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 2: I get it, you know. For me, is that.

1956
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: I just can't be a hype man, I just can't

1957
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 1: tell you twenty twenty hours a day how good you look,

1958
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,600
Speaker 1: how fine, how fine you are, and how lucky I

1959
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 1: am to have. I just can't be your hype man,

1960
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: not all the time. I don't got no problem to

1961
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 1: the damn baby. You fine, I am lucky. You're smart.

1962
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: Ship what you do, hey, you make sure everything blow smoothly.

1963
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 1: But I can't do that all the time.

1964
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 3: I can't.

1965
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 1: I can't because we don't require it. The only thing

1966
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,639
Speaker 1: I want to do all the time is breathe. That's

1967
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 1: the only thing I want. That's the only thing I

1968
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: want to do all the time.

1969
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 3: And it's just it's it's tough. It's tough, gil I mean.

1970
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: And and unless you're in this situation, you know, people

1971
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 1: don't people think this just because you got money, everything

1972
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: is easier, well, some of the things.

1973
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 2: But what about the things that money can't buy.

1974
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: Came buy me, Peace, can't buy me, love, can't buy me, understanding,

1975
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 1: can't buy me compassion.

1976
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 2: You're talking about all the things that.

1977
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:57,680
Speaker 1: All the things that money can buy will only suffice temporarily.

1978
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 1: That new car is only gonna make you happy for

1979
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 1: a short period of time because it's gonna get dirty,

1980
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: just like all the rest of them.

1981
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 2: That new watch.

1982
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: Hey man, they only made fifteen of these. Guess what

1983
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna make fifteen of a different cad next year

1984
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: or going on that vacation. So all the things that

1985
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 1: money can provide doesn't necessarily make you happy. Yeah, it's.

1986
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 3: You know, and you know when somebody looked there like

1987
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 3: man and y'all need to find the right ones, and yeah, everyone,

1988
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 3: that's everyone. It's just not us. It's everyone, just as

1989
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 3: a woman understanding from the other side of what a

1990
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 3: man is doing. Right, we know what you do your home,

1991
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 3: if you're taking care of the house and all that,

1992
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 3: we get that right. When he's at work, he's doing

1993
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 3: his job. Sometimes when that man comes home for peace,

1994
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 3: he don't want to work. He don't want to stay working,

1995
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 3: and working is is hell.

1996
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 2: Where you want to do? You want to go tomorrow?

1997
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 3: You want to go this? How you how you did right?

1998
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 3: It's it's it becomes it becomes exhausting to the point

1999
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 3: where it's like it's easier to not have him right

2000
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 3: because one thing I know we're not going to do

2001
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 3: as man is we're not going to stress ourselves out.

2002
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:28,799
Speaker 2: No, why would yeah. I mean my job is stressful

2003
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 2: enough to come up. You know, we do this.

2004
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 1: I do night I do Nightcap three days a week.

2005
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: I come up with we do I do first Take

2006
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: twice a week. I do Club Shay Shape. So to

2007
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: constantly try to come up with fresh content and talk

2008
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 1: about things that doesn't sound redundant and people haven't heard

2009
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 1: over and over, to break the monotony of it, to

2010
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 1: not only entertain, but to educate and inform people.

2011
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 3: It's not an easy task. And the last thing I

2012
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 3: want to do is come home.

2013
01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean, so look, I'm a up and the thing

2014
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 1: is the people that they see on TV and people

2015
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 1: last like I have asked people what he really liked,

2016
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: people that have dated me, and they say, he's nothing

2017
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 1: like what you see on television. Quiet, he comes home,

2018
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 1: he'll eat your interact and he just goes upstairs. Most

2019
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 1: of the time, if it's not sports on, he doesn't

2020
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: watch TV. I'm a deep thinker, and you know, come in, Hey,

2021
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: how you doing.

2022
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 2: How your day was?

2023
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 3: You know good?

2024
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 2: I want to play the dogs for a little while

2025
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 2: because they hadn't seen me, They're gonna be all over me.

2026
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 1: I want to play with them, get them settled down

2027
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 1: for about twenty minutes, eat, shower, talk a little while.

2028
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 2: Then that's it. I just want to.

2029
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: And ask somebody, hey, yeah, and brush your teeth for

2030
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 1: the eight time. She always tried to. She enjoyed you.

2031
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 1: See how you trying to get it in t It

2032
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 1: didn't tell me about why y'all always picking on me.

2033
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 1: God you always look at it. Get a little jail

2034
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 1: and think nobody noticed it. Uh, upgrade, upgrade, King donated,

2035
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 1: He said uger Gill. Should the winner of the N

2036
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 1: season Tournament get an automatic bye into the playoffs?

2037
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 2: Sixth seed winner?

2038
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 1: Takes so much out of team it's like like like

2039
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 1: you're doing it to the Lakers. Should if you win

2040
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:28,799
Speaker 1: the N season Tournament, should you automatically get a playoff?

2041
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 3: Be? No, because you know you don't want to win

2042
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 3: the N season Tournament and then tank it the rest

2043
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 3: of the season and then becoming yeah yeah in the playoffs,

2044
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 3: and then because if you make the playoff, let's just

2045
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 3: say you become last place right now, that that last

2046
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 3: place gets you the damn near top three for a pick. Yeah,

2047
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 3: but if you want a D season tournament, you in

2048
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 3: the playoffs and get a six seed you don't want

2049
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 3: the six seeds draft pick?

2050
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Noah, I want. I want to I wanted. I

2051
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,639
Speaker 2: want to know one to three seeds.

2052
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,560
Speaker 1: Hopefully I get the top top EA, I get a

2053
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 1: win Miyama, or I get a Lebron.

2054
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want like it.

2055
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 3: I think that whoever wins the n season tournament should

2056
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 3: get the fourteenth pick in the NBA draft automatically, right

2057
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 3: Skiell lottery, but not the high end of the loss

2058
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 3: the last lot So if you win it and still

2059
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 3: become the last place, you got.

2060
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 2: Fourteenth, you might have six and you get the number

2061
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 2: one pick.

2062
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean. But there has to

2063
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 3: be some reward for winning, right right? Reward Now in

2064
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 3: sports is the last place team the bottom end. We

2065
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 3: get to get the number one guy. We get to

2066
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 3: be rewarded with a future, right, I get the tank,

2067
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 3: lose to get a future. That doesn't happen in everyday world,

2068
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 3: in everyday society, you cannot be a loser and be

2069
01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 3: rewarded for being Imagine you're you had the first taken.

2070
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,719
Speaker 3: This person has the worst takes, he has the worst views,

2071
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 3: he gets an extra bump on the paycheck, and you there,

2072
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 3: like what.

2073
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: Or you could be like you could be like the

2074
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: Lakers when the title went eighty two and they get

2075
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 1: the number one overall draft pick.

2076
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 2: It turns out to be James Worthy.

2077
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 3: But that's hey, now that's now, that's something that's cheating,

2078
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 3: but that's something to fight for those Yeah, right now

2079
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:31,679
Speaker 3: you're building teams because you know what the reward is. Yeah.

2080
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 1: Whether they used to have the draft where you know,

2081
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 1: you could draft the player. Player could go back to school,

2082
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 1: but you still own this draft rights. That's what the

2083
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 1: Celtics did. The lad Bird. Lad Bird that drafted was

2084
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 1: a junior. They drafted. Now he went back to school

2085
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: and said we still got you, yep.

2086
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 3: And then and then you can lose that ye still

2087
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,839
Speaker 3: get the number one figure and you still get you still.

2088
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 1: Got Lamb Bird cut, still got Vinzinaard, said Dwayne the Rock.

2089
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,759
Speaker 1: Johnson returned home to the w w E on Monday

2090
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 1: and called out his cousin, the Tribal Chief Roman Reigns

2091
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: Gil Who were your favorite wrestlers growing up?

2092
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 2: Love the show? Were you a big wrestling fan?

2093
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh look, I was Jaca Snake Robinson, Hulk Hogan,

2094
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 3: it was Jason State Ultimate Yeah, Ultimate Warrior oh yeah,

2095
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 3: Jadon Snake and so that's my back way back there.

2096
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we'll say I go back a little further

2097
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 1: than you. I grew up with Georgia Championship wrestling with

2098
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:26,560
Speaker 1: Gordon Soley. So we had Dusty Rolls Andrea Giant. We

2099
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,600
Speaker 1: had Bobo Brazil, we had Aus Baker, I mean we

2100
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 1: had we Mister Wrestling.

2101
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 3: Number one and two. Uh, we had pack Song.

2102
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, it was Abdullah the Butcher. It was just

2103
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: like my grandfather used to just haul us around.

2104
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:41,759
Speaker 3: You know. We go to Savannah, we go to Badaya,

2105
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 3: we go to Baxley.

2106
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean they would come to wrestle, would come to

2107
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 1: little small towns in wrestle.

2108
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 2: Back then, it's not w W.

2109
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 1: It's not what it is because everybody had to own

2110
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 1: like Georgia Championship, in Florida Championship, in mid Atlantic Championship.

2111
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 1: Everybody like regionals had had wrestling. So it's not like, yeah,

2112
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: it's not under un roofed like it was yet.

2113
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:06,720
Speaker 3: You know. So uh Man, I just man who hardly raised.

2114
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 2: Nick bockwinkle.

2115
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 3: Man.

2116
01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: I loved man. Hey, hey kill me and my cousin.

2117
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,839
Speaker 1: We packed up that car many times in Halltaeil of Savannah.

2118
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 3: See, I've never been the one, so I've never been

2119
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 3: to oh you never, I've never been one, just you know,

2120
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 3: just as a kid watching it.

2121
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 1: Rick Flair, Oh yeah, yeah, man, Arnie and Anderson Man,

2122
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: y'all know, I love, I love, I love. Thirty fourth

2123
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 1: Burgo said, oh oh, I'm twelve minutes into the interview

2124
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 1: and I'm dead carry straight wilding out a hand oh

2125
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 1: straight wilding out with hand grenades, falling to drink, has

2126
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 1: me rolling.

2127
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 3: He was on one.

2128
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 1: He had a lot to get he said, if you

2129
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 1: heard him, he got a lot to get off his chair.

2130
01:47:56,280 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: I was just I was the vehicle and the out Yeah. Yeah,

2131
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 1: I was just a And it's doing extremely well. It's

2132
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 1: up to three point three million views. Uh in about

2133
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: twelve twelve hours. Thirteen in thirteen hours, we had three

2134
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:19,760
Speaker 1: point three million views. Oh congratulations. They I thought conservatively

2135
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 1: maybe we could get to like, uh two and a half,

2136
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:26,599
Speaker 1: but it looks like it might top out at five

2137
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 1: million in the first day.

2138
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2139
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be big because there were

2140
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one thousand people watching it in

2141
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 1: the chat today, so I knew I was like, Okay,

2142
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 1: oh wow, this might yeah, this might be.

2143
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 2: I said, this might be bigger than I thought, So

2144
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm calling. So I called. He just said, well, c J,

2145
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 2: what's to mean.

2146
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: He's like, normally like, if you can get three four

2147
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 1: thousand people, three to four thousand, we already at forty

2148
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 1: eight thousand, what you mean three to four thousand? And

2149
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 1: it just it and it never came down. It never

2150
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: you know a lot of times you in the chat

2151
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Speaker 1: there they're a dip. Yeah, never dip. It just kept

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Speaker 2: Support you, Unk. We greatly appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Gil.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for joining him in tonight.

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Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed it. Hopefully you guys make sure

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Speaker 1: you follow Gil. Bill joins me every Wednesday for his

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Speaker 1: basketball takes. We're gonna try to figure out something else.

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Speaker 1: Do some more dates or once the NFL season is

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Speaker 1: over with uh. I'm your favorite sports unk, Shannon Sharp.

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Speaker 1: He's your favorite number zero Happy news everybody.

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Speaker 3: He's your favorite Arizona Wildcat. You remember these gils hell? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Who man?

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Speaker 3: What Houla? What that's night? George the chack go go

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Speaker 3: crazy with no track, go go crazy. I'm telling you, Gil,

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Speaker 3: what what of those? Oh? My god, done sold you

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Speaker 3: a bad period? Man? Oh?

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Speaker 2: These o you hot man? I got the last pair,

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Speaker 2: I got the last balls. Man, they help.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I should have took the left shoe off

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Speaker 1: it looked better with it on the left side, with

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Speaker 1: the left head.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining another episode of Nightcamp.

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Speaker 2: I'm your favorite sports shot, a shatter sharp.

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Speaker 1: He's your favorite Number zero Arizona Wildcap basketball legend, Number

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Speaker 1: zero Agent zero Gil Arenas, Thank you very much, Gil,