1 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: A man walcome in Lake Kicks Live. 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, July twenty eighth, year of our Lord, 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. There are new rooms being added on 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: to both houses, but no one knows who's moving in yet. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Is at college football fun this time of year. We're jampacked. 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: We are high at top an eventful downtown Nashville, Tennessee. 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Everything that could be in town tonight and this weekend 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: is in town tonight. And this weekend the Big Ten 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 2: and the SEC they're not exactly in town, but they 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: are on the tip of everyone's tongue. I just want 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: to ask, and we will talk about it together in 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: a second. Who's on the same page. We heard some 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: things that they have in common. We heard some things 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: that sound polar opposite in terms of messaging over the 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 2: past couple of weeks. So we're going to discuss that 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: basically as the rest of the sport going to survive. 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: That's all you really want to know. I will share 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: my biggest sleeper teams. I will share my toughest schedules. 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: Tonight Predictions Hits Chapter twenty seven this evening also Big 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: Ten Media Days. 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Got some thoughts on that event, and I need to 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: have a. 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Direct dare I even say, frank conversation with our LSU brethren, 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: and I want the rest of you to participate because 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 2: we love our LSU brethren, or at least we respect 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: and appreciate our LSU brethren. I can speak for every 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: one of you when I say that Hayesville, North Carolina 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: tuned in, Prescott, Arizona tuned in. We have two honeymooners 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: in the Dominican Republic tuned in, both lovers of the 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: brand and of the show, So no big deal there. 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: And Sunset, Louisiana is tuned in. Hey, I got a 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: question for you. It's rhetorical and we're just going to 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: enter the show. What makes college football great? And if 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: you can't answer that question to our liking, do you 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: have any business making decisions about the future of the sport? 36 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: Just something to think on. Let's dive into the show. 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, if you're watching live right now, 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: the Late kickstore is open. I have not told anyone. 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: It is not public knowledge. The only folks who know 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: that right now are the folks watching the live show. 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: The reward there you go for watching the live show. 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: Let's dive in tonight SEC versus Big Ten, it's must 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: see on the hardwood. Sometimes it is often a really 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: really good matchup in bowl games. But lately it's been 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: about conference realignment, and it's been about conference expansion and 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: who's going to do what, Who's going to grab up who, 47 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 2: And we've been talking about that a lot. Everyone has 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: it's interesting times though. Some people will call them exciting, 49 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: some people will call them nerve wracking, some people will 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: call them troubling. I call them everything and then some. 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: But lately, what have we had. We've had media days 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: and everyone's been focused on what Greg Sankey's gonna say 53 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: at the podium in Atlanta, or what Kevin Warren most 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: recently said at the podium in Indianapolis. And what the 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: fear for everyone pretty much outside of the Big Ten 56 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: and the SEC has been and continues to be, is 57 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: that those two brands, and that's what we need to 58 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: call them now, not conferences, but brands. 59 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: It's the buzzword these days. 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: As you'll soon find out, those two brands are going 61 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: to do irreparable damage and harm to the overall landscape 62 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: of college football. If I'm a Utah fan, if I'm 63 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: a Virginia fan, they are going to do something to 64 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: the sport that makes it unrecognizable, and I and my 65 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: team we can no longer even pretend to live in 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: the same world as they do. That is a valid concern. 67 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: I share your concerns. Peate State has nothing to worry about. 68 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: We are one of the haves, as Nick Saban would say. 69 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: Yet I still share your concerns. So we rewind to 70 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. We were down in Atlanta, 71 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: I guess, last week for SEC media days, and all 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: eyes were on Greg sank On that Monday, and he 73 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: stepped up to the podium there and what I thought 74 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: he was going to say was pretty much what we 75 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: got from him. Remember, one of the big points of 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: debate in the South and really nationally in college football 77 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: recently has been that, man, if you're watching on YouTube 78 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: Greg Sankie, is he really comfortable with them just adding 79 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: OU in Texas and then stopping at sixteen or does 80 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: he want to gobble up as much property for lack 81 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: of a better term as he can and create a 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: college football super conference. Now I have not necessary bought 83 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: into that. I could be wrong. Some of you could 84 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: be right. Some of you had bought into that. But 85 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: when Sankei stepped up, I'm going to read us some 86 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: quotes here when Sankie was speaking, here's what he said. 87 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: He said, quote, there's no urgency. There's no sense of 88 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: urgency in our league. There's no panic in reaction to others' decisions. 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: We know who we are, We're confident on our success. 90 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: We're really looking forward to the expansion to sixteen, and 91 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: I don't feel pressure to operate at a number. We'll 92 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: watch what happens around us and be thoughtful, but be nimbled. 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: Here's how that translated. I don't have any interest in 94 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: moving beyond sixteen right now. However, we are not going 95 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: to be so ignorant as to say we're done, because 96 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: we do need to accept the fact that someone else 97 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: could make a move and then we need to counter. 98 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: But he pulled the classic hey balls in their court. 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: At the moment, we're not moving anymore or less we 100 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: have to, which I was fine with. That's what I 101 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: expected to hear from him, and I think, given the 102 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: current set of circumstances, since you can't hit the rewind button, 103 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: that if he's being honest, and I think he was, 104 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: was the best you could have hoped for. Right then, 105 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: the next thing that you would have hoped for is 106 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: to fast forward to this week, and you would have hoped, 107 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: if you want some semblance of normalcy to remain in 108 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: the sport, that you would have heard the same sentiment 109 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: echoed from Kevin Warren at Big ten Media. 110 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: It is right. 111 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: We want to hear him say, hey, the sec stand 112 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: is still. We're going to stand still. We're good. At sixteen, 113 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: we'll know, we'll plug it for now, and whatever's left over. 114 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: True enough, we have rated the sport. Whatever's left over, though, 115 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: it's going to be left over, and all's well. That 116 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: ends well, we'll have two super conferences, but it won't 117 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: be so much that everyone just has to fade in 118 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: the dust. It's not exactly what Kevin Warren said, and 119 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: this is pretty much what I expected to hear from 120 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: him this week. We begin from Kevin Warren, Big ten Commissioner. 121 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: Where does expansion go? I don't know. There are two 122 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 2: types of people in this world. They look at change 123 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: as a problem or they look at change as an opportunity. 124 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm one of those individuals that when change occurs, I 125 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: get excited about it. All right, we continue in and 126 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: of itself. That's not a bad way to live. You 127 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: know what, This is me talking right now, so let 128 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: me shut up. I'm going to continue with the Kevin 129 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: Warren quote. This is where it just it's gonna throw 130 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: you for a loop. You're gonna love this one quote. 131 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: I don't think you can close the door on future 132 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: expansion from a strategy standpoint. This is not the old 133 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: college athletics. For the individuals and the conferences in schools 134 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: that are not thinking that way, they're going to be 135 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: Sears and Roebuck. Yes, kids, Sears and Roebuck, the giant 136 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: that file for bankruptcy. I've got the parentheses of my 137 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: quote here. 138 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: That's straight, that's blunt. That's where this deal is going. 139 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: We have about three or four more years of perpetual 140 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: disruption during that period, either you're going to embrace change 141 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: and build a business and get stronger or not. I 142 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: feel so gross when I read that. I've read it 143 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: like five times today. I just feel like I need 144 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: to take a shower. Nothing about that sounds like college athletics. Now, 145 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: to his credit, Kevin Warren is telling you, hey, this 146 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: is not the old college athletics. 147 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: And that's true. 148 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: Of what I said earlier this week remains, this is 149 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: not something specifically targeted at Kevin Warren, but rather a 150 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: lot of. 151 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: The change agents in our sport. 152 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: Have you guys noticed like I have, that a lot 153 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: of the people who are looking at you and saying, hey, 154 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: this is in the old College Athletics anymore are like 155 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: ninety nine percent responsible for it not being the Old 156 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: College Athletics anymore. It would be one thing if these 157 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: were innocent bystanders and they were just calling it as 158 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: they see it. You know, if a mediate is headed 159 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: towards Earth, I don't have anything to do with it. 160 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: So if I say that thing's going to land in 161 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: New Hampshire, whether you like it or not, I'm I'm 162 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: just dealing the cold, brutal, honest truth to you. 163 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: You can accept it or leave it. That's one thing. 164 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: But you know, if I am telling you my truck's 165 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: about to run you over and I'm behind the driver's seat, 166 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: that's an entirely different thing, because I control whether the. 167 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: Truck runs you over unless it's a Stephen King movie. 168 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I feel about this. 169 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: I got a lot of people from the conference executive 170 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: level to the television executive level, telling me Josh to 171 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: settle down, Simpleton. This is the way of the world now, 172 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: this is the way college athletics are going. I know 173 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: that you're pulling the rope out of my hands. I 174 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: get where it's going. I don't like it, and you 175 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: are the reason why it's headed that way. But I 176 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: I can speak personally all night, and believe me, I 177 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: would like to. But in the interest of getting our 178 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: staff home in time, I wanted to ask you a 179 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: question going back to the old Sears and Roebuck analogy. 180 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: You know how, sometimes on Late Kick I use the 181 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: phrase bumper sticker logic. Bumper sticker logic, of course, being something. 182 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: It's kind of fortune cookie logic too. It's stuff that's 183 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: supposed to pass the smell test. You just hear it 184 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: and then you're supposed to move on. You are not 185 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: supposed to dissect it at any depth because it does 186 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: not stand up to dissection at any depth. Nor does 187 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: this The Big ten's not going to be Sears in row. 188 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: But there is no scenario on planet Earth from this 189 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 2: point moving forward where the Big ten could be Sears 190 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 2: and Roebuck. In fact, I workshopped this earlier today, I 191 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 2: asked a few people, and even in our building, I 192 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: asked producer Jesse, most recently made famous for modeling one 193 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: of our Lake kick shirts. I asked some people today, 194 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: if I were a mole inside the Big Ten office, 195 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: and I had executive control, and I actively wanted to 196 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: sabotage the conference from this point moving forward, what kind 197 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: of decisions would I make that could turn the Big 198 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 2: Ten into Sears and Roebuck. This is a conference on 199 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: the precipice of signing a multi billion dollar media rights deal. 200 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: They have just acquired two of the most valuable properties 201 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: on the West Coast, to go along with already some 202 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: of the most valuable properties not just in football, but 203 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: in all of college athletics period in the world, well 204 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: in the world of college athletics. What risk are we 205 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 2: running here? You see Sears and Roebuck. There's an entire 206 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: dissertation that could be done on the rise and fall 207 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: of Sears Roebuck. But the bottom line is, multiple new 208 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: players and multiple new technologies came in the game, and 209 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: when they didn't necessarily adapt or they lost their way, 210 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: there were several other big giant names out there to 211 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: gobble up that business. 212 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: Who else is out there to gobble up the business. 213 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: You're talking about two major players, and for the foreseeable future, 214 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean decades and decades into the future. You've got 215 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: two major players at the table. One of them's the SEC, 216 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: and they've already signed their next media rights deal, and 217 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: you've got the Big Ten. 218 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: There is no amount of incompetence. 219 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: Much less just maybe seeding something to the other side 220 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: that would land the Big Ten and Seers in Roebuck territory. 221 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: But I guarantee you someone told Kevin Warren it would 222 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: sound good, or maybe Kevin Warren thought it would sound good, 223 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: and therefore he said it, and a lot of people 224 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: were in with it. I saw that quote echoed across 225 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: many a front page and many a website, many a 226 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: talk show over the last twenty four hours. The bottom 227 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: line is, there is nothing from this point moving forward 228 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: that would happen negatively to the Big Ten if they 229 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: just chose to stop. If they chose to keep it 230 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: at sixteen, and the SEC chose to keep it at sixteen, 231 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: and you still allowed some version of the ACC or 232 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: some version of the Big Ten or the Pac twelve 233 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: to exist, and therefore you know, some landscape that loosely 234 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: resembles what we used to have in college football to exist. 235 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: There's nothing bad that happens to you because of that. 236 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: But a lot of folks wanted those those market principles 237 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: in play, and here come those market principles. So, you know, 238 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: as many times as I can fit Jurassic part quotes 239 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: into the show, I do. And this is perfect Ian 240 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: Malcolm territory. 241 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: This is him sitting at the. 242 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: Table when he's first having it described that we found 243 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: fossilized mosquitoes and we drilled into them and we extracted 244 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: dinosaur DNA, and then we did ABC you know, some 245 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: weird things with frogs and eggs and Jhila, we got dinosaurs. 246 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: And he's supposed to be impressed by it. 247 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: And what did he say when he had the entire. 248 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: Process laid out in front of him, Just like when 249 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: I have this entire process of the Big Ten expanding 250 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: and having games in four time zones in the same day, 251 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: what do I say? I say, you seem so preoccupied 252 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: with whether you could that you never stopped to think 253 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: whether you should. And since we're in the business of 254 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: metaphors tonight, in all ways, I look at this great, 255 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: big mansion that a couple of conferences are building in town. SEC, 256 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: it looks insane. Big ten, it looks insane. Look at 257 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: the town around you. Do you see it? Do you 258 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: see what's happening to it? 259 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: Do you see? 260 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: Therefore, what could happen in the future to your property values? 261 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: Not overnight? Your value does not go anywhere overnight. In fact, 262 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: you probably peaked. You're maximizing your value right now. The 263 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: Big ten will never be worth more, The SEC will 264 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: never be worth more. What is college football worth? And 265 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: then here's the great unanswerable question. I can't answer this 266 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: for Kevin Warren. I can't answer this for Greg Sankey. 267 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: I can't answer this for ESPN, CBS or Fox. Some 268 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: folks have to make grown up, adult decisions in a room. 269 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: But they got to look in the mirror and they 270 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: got to ask themselves. We owe anything to college football? 271 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: Do we owe anything? I'm not saying you have to 272 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: first and foremost worship at the altar of college football. 273 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: I know you wear that Big ten lapel or that 274 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: SEC lapel. 275 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: For a reason. 276 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: You're accountable and responsible to your member institutions. 277 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: I get all that. 278 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: Is there a healthy balance and I still believe I 279 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: got a really, really big heart on this, and I 280 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: still believe somewhere deep down in that heart of hearts, 281 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: those guys know, yeah, we do have a responsibility. I 282 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: just think that there are several more voices in the 283 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: room than there used to be, and we don't. 284 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Always hear all those voices. 285 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: You hear Sinkie, you hear Kevin Warren, You don't always 286 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: hear every special interest they have to be accountable to. 287 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: And I know that that can cloud the decision a 288 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: whole lot more than just what a ten or fifteen 289 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: minute segment on this show makes it sound like. But 290 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: I want to circle back to the question I asked 291 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: you because this is as simple as it is for 292 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: me at the beginning of the show tonight, and this 293 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: is kind of the fundamental problem a lot of us have. 294 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: I asked you, guys when we came on the air, 295 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: what makes college football great? What makes college football great? 296 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: If you're watching this show, you probably answer that question. 297 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: Just like that. 298 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 2: The bad thing right now is that we got a 299 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: lot of folks making decisions about the future of this 300 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: sport who could not immediately answer that question, and they 301 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: could never adequately provide you an answer that you would accept, 302 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: because it's not great to them, it's property to them. 303 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,359 Speaker 1: I know it sounds like the. 304 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: Plot line of Pocahontas, but it's kind of hitting us 305 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: in real life terms in college football, and it's not fun. 306 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: It's not fun to think about. It's not fun to. 307 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: Think about people who could really take it or leave 308 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: it and couldn't tell you the mascots for half of 309 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: these teams in the country, but they do see dollar signs. 310 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: They understand the P and L side of it. 311 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: And that's not necessarily what any of us would answer 312 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: when we ask each other what makes. 313 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: College football great? 314 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: But that's where we are, so I guess we have 315 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: to hope for the best at the moment. You know, 316 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: I didn't want to end in such a bleak note, 317 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: but it's kind of the way it is at the moment. 318 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: We'll see, Hey, look, the Big ten has not gone 319 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: beyond sixteen. The SEC has not gone beyond sixteen. 320 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: So you know that. 321 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: Language could be preemptive, and that language, for instance that 322 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: we heard from Kevin Warren this week, it could just 323 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: be that it could be language. They could very well 324 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: remain at sixteen and you know, maybe five years down 325 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: the road, we're looking around and saying, you know, it 326 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: could have turned out a lot worse than it actually 327 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: turned out. That's why I'm talking with fingers crossed here. 328 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: That's why there's a big thing happening down on the 329 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: Gulf Coast today actually this weekends, happening Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 330 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: You straight in this microphone, deal with the static for 331 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: just a second. 332 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: So I was talking to our friends at Academy Sports 333 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: and Outdoors and they said, hey, let's just forego the 334 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: normal ad read you do. We got a big thing 335 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: that we need you to talk about. And I said, 336 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: what's going on? Alex Alex, Yeah, there you go. That's 337 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: one of our academy reps names. And he said, got 338 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: a grand opening. 339 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: What can you do? 340 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: And I said, well, I can do everything I possibly can't. 341 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: So Panama City, we actually have some of our folks 342 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: watching from Panama City Beach tonight, Panama City. In fact, 343 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: eight to twenty West twenty third Street in Panama City. 344 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: Academy a brand new one. You have asked for it 345 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: on the Gulf Coast for a while. 346 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: You got yourself your very own Academy Sports and Outdoors. 347 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: You don't have to use the website anymore. Eight twenty 348 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: West twenty third Street, right there in Panama City. Now, 349 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: why am I shouting out that address so much? Well, 350 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you why because starting right now 351 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: seven sixteen pm Central Time on this Thursday night, I 352 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: am going to give you guys the weekend, and then 353 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: I am going to sift through in my DMS or 354 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: my email inbox everybody who can prove to me that 355 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: they went to that Panama City Academy location. 356 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: Over the weekend. 357 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: It can be a receipt, it could be a picture, 358 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, I would prefer receipts for 359 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: obvious reasons. I'm picking out about three or four of you, 360 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: and you're getting free stuff out of the Late kickstore. 361 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: And we got some really really hot sellers right now. 362 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: Some of them are sold out, but I got a 363 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: says to him, and you will too, at least three 364 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: or four of you will. So eight twenty West twenty 365 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: third Street. Our partners at Academy Sports and Outdoors make 366 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: the show free, make the show possible to remain free. 367 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: And they got a brand spanking news store open down there, 368 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: So look, you go there, and five minutes later you're 369 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: at the beach. What more could you ask for this weekend? 370 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: And probably getting some free stuff if you proved to 371 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: me that you were there. So Academy Sports and Outdoors, Hey, nationwide, 372 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: but specifically our friends down at Panama City this weekend. 373 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: You got it. You asked for it, You got it. 374 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Bold Predictions, Chapter twenty seven, Colin, I know you were switching, 375 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: so let me say it again. Bold Predictions, Chapter twenty seven. 376 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: What do you believe so much that you would bet 377 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: your own money on? 378 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: Well World? Chapter twenty seven. 379 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: So obviously a lot, but let's dive in tonight and 380 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: the first one it takes us to some familiar foes, 381 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: though they rarely play each other. Dustin says, the USC 382 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: offense will finish the season thirty spots higher in points 383 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: per game than Oklahoma, So yeah, a bunch of you 384 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: probably don't have this scale memorized in your head. Oklahoma 385 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: under Lincoln Riley was never worse than eighth in the 386 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: country in points per game, so they were always up there. Now, 387 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: by comparison, his new place of business, USC was sixty 388 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: fifth in points per game last year, so there's some 389 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: work to do. 390 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: There. 391 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you what I'm going to 392 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: assume with all the transfer moves, I'm just going to 393 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: assume Lincoln Riley has a top fifteen, maybe in the 394 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: top ten points per. 395 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: Game offense this year. Let's go top twelve. Why not? 396 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: So top twelve points per game offense. 397 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: Now at Oklahoma, Jeff Levy new offensive coordinator. There last 398 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: two years at Ole miss fourteenth and twenty fourth in 399 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: points per game. We could reasonably expect that they'll dial 400 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: it back a little bit. In terms of tempo, we 401 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: could reasonably expect a little more ground and pound and 402 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: maybe not so much through the air. But is it 403 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: going to be thirty spots worse? 404 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Let's work? 405 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: Producer Jesse and I disagreed. He gave me my stat 406 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: pack today and in that stat pack is included Producer 407 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: Jesse's own one to ten boldness scale on these sorts 408 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: of things, and I differed with him. I say, this 409 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: is a six, and it's a six. Here's what I 410 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: have to take into account. I have to take into 411 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: account injury, even though you don't predict it and you 412 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: never hope for it. But if Oklahoma, if Dylan Gabriel 413 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: misses any time at quarterback. I'm not necessarily crazy about 414 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: what they have there. And even if he doesn't miss time, 415 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: you got a lot of adjustment, You've got a lot 416 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: of replacement, a lot of churn that has to happen offensively. 417 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: At Oklahoma, you probably have a little bit different style there, 418 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: although Jeff Levy is a pretty dependable commodity at this point, 419 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't doubt as much the points they're going to 420 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: put up at USC Now, whether they stop folks frequently enough, 421 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: that's a whole other topic. But I think this has 422 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: a reasonable chance to happening. I'm going to call it 423 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: a six on the boldness scale and no more. I 424 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: think that's something that could come to fruition next up. 425 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: This is not fun to talk about, but we have 426 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: to talk about it, Kenneth said Scott Frost, Nebraska head coach. 427 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: He will not make it to the end of the season. 428 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: I put an eight on this because obviously this is 429 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: the disaster scenario for Husker fans. The preseason number I 430 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: think they have set for him is Bowl game, so six. 431 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: I think he has to have six wins this year. 432 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: The over unders seven and a half, even if they 433 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: lose to Oklahoma, which is the it's the Week three game, 434 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: but it's their fourth game of the year. Even if 435 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: they lose to Oklahoma, if they start out three and 436 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: oh and then lose that game, they're three and one. 437 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: Here's what comes after the Oklahoma game. 438 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: Indiana at Rutgers at Purdue Illinois. So there are many 439 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: many paths here where they're already to five or six 440 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: wins before they even get to November. And I believe 441 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: they should be there before they get to November. 442 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: Now. 443 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: The reason I mentioned November is because it is a 444 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: tough close. They've got Minnesota at Michigan, Wisconsin at Iowa 445 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: to close the season. But you could already be out 446 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: of the woods. You could already be in the six 447 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: or seven win club and not have to worry so 448 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: much about whether we can pull upsets in November. Now, 449 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: they may be flying so high that they can be 450 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: competitive in November two. But if they are already badly 451 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: banged up record wise before they even get out of October, 452 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: then this is a possibility. I just don't think they're 453 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: going to be badly enough banged up by the time 454 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: they get out of October. And I think he's going 455 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: to be allowed to finish the end of the season 456 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: if he gets to November. So I'm saying this is 457 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: an eight. I think Scott Frost. You know my feelings 458 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: on Nebraska this year. I think they're going to be 459 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: a seven win team, so I think he'll be okay point. 460 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: But I definitely think even if he doesn't make it, 461 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: I do think he makes it to the end of 462 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: the season before something happens and we're talking regular season there. 463 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: Next up. 464 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: This one's kind of interesting because I did not know 465 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: that this had happened so frequently. Cam said, Alabama's going 466 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: to win the West and the second place team will 467 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: be three or more games behind them in the division standings. 468 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: SEC West is cannibalism from Gulf Shor's Alabama. How many 469 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: times do you think this has happened under Saban that 470 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: Alabama won the West and they finished three or more 471 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: games ahead of whoever the next closest team was. Keep 472 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: in mind, they only play eight conference games, so that 473 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: means you got to be eight to no and then 474 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 2: second place is five and three or worse. Believe it 475 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: or not, it's happened four times, most recently in twenty 476 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: eighteen twenty sixteen, nine and eight. Saban second and third 477 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: years there they did this and every time they were 478 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 2: eight to no and the next closest team was five 479 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: and three. So presumably, let's just say this happens this year. 480 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: You have to have Bama go eight no. So they 481 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: have to just run the table in conference. I would 482 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: think A and M, you know, just using Vegas numbers, 483 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: A and M would be the next team in line. 484 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: Bama's preseason over under win total is eleven. A and 485 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: M's preseason over under win totals. 486 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: Eight and a half. 487 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: So that's a two and a half game gap. Now 488 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: that's taking into account the entire schedule, not just conference games. 489 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: So who knows A and M. 490 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: You know, they play Miami, they could lose their Bama 491 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: could lose to Texas and it wouldn't impact this. But 492 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: this isn't so crazy. I made it a seven and 493 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: a half. It's not so crazy because think about it. 494 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: If Bama's undefeated, then by default they've already handed everyone 495 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: a loss. And also there is that very real cannibalistic 496 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: scenario that was mentioned here where you've got one elite 497 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 2: team and just a bunch of good teams and good 498 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: teams beat good teams. 499 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: That's what happens. 500 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 2: That is the nature of college football cannibalism. And so 501 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: I made this one a seven and a half. It's 502 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: not crazy. 503 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: It's unlikely, but it's not crazy. 504 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: Next up this one, I made an eight on the 505 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: boldness scale, And this one is Clemson and Oklahoma both 506 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: miss out on the conference championship game again, making it 507 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: they miss out on making the conference championship game. 508 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: I made this an eight. 509 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: Clemson is a minus one to ninety favorite to just 510 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: make the conference title game. They're reminus one twenty to 511 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: win the whole conference, and they're they're the fourth favorite 512 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: to win the national championship now in the Big Twelve. 513 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: Obviously they don't have the divisional play. Oklahoma is plus 514 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: two to twenty to win the Big Twelve. So the 515 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: Big Twelve, this is not hard to see at all. 516 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: The Big Twelve is totally wide open. I think it 517 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: is the most competitively balanced or maybe most unpredictable conference 518 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: in all of college football this year. Like I'm gonna 519 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: make a case later where I may convince myself Baylor 520 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: wins the conference. I was texting back and forth with 521 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: Tray Scott last night, and I was I was talking 522 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: myself into it yesterday on the Late Kick Extra podcast. 523 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: I was talking myself into it and we still got 524 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: like a month. I'm going to end up talking myself 525 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: into that probably, So the Big twelve is wide open. 526 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 2: It's not hard to envision Oklahoma not playing for the 527 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: conference title. There are many paths in which the Sooners 528 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: don't play for it, even though they're the favorite to 529 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: get there or one of the favorites. 530 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: But in the acc. 531 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: For Clemson not to play for it again, you're talking 532 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: to a pretty big story, one of the bigger stories 533 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: in college football this year. And that's me not even 534 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 2: knowing what happens in the rest of the country. If 535 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: Daboswenny and Clemson aren't playing for the conference title again, 536 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: think about that. That obviously means everybody's biggest fears about 537 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: losing Venables and losing Tony Elliott they have manifest themselves. 538 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: It means quarterback has not been figured out for a 539 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: second consecutive year. It means that you get further and 540 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: further down that rabbit hole of talking about whether the 541 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: game is passing dabosweny By. You know this whole song 542 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: and dance of if the worst were to happen, I 543 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: just think Clemson's gonna be there, so I don't think 544 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: that we're going to be having those conversations. 545 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: As a result. I made this an eight. 546 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: Maybe one of them, but I definitely think at least 547 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: one of them is going to play for a conference title. 548 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: The last one here, let's go back to the Big 549 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: Twelve for a second. Oklahoma State finally wins the Big Twelve. 550 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 2: They won it in twenty eleven, I think, and they 551 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: haven't won it since then. So the Cowboys win in 552 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: the Big Twelve. 553 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: I think, in. 554 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: Terms of odds the number three right now and Baylor's 555 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: number four, and they're both behind. 556 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: Ou in Texas. 557 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: They have got a surprisingly poor schedule dynamic this year. 558 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: They don't have a single buy in conference play, meaning 559 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: they play three out of conference games to start the year. 560 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: They play Central Michigan, Arizona State, and Arkansas Pine Bluff 561 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: and that's where their buy comes in. And then starting 562 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: in October October first, that's when they go to Baylor. 563 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: It's their first Big Twelve game. They play an entire 564 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 2: conference schedule back to back to back to back to back. 565 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: They do not have an off week, so that is 566 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: less than desirable. Their road games include at TCU, at 567 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: Kansas State, at Oklahoma, at Baylor. The defense got gutted, 568 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: including losing their defensive coordinator, and I just I know 569 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: what the odds say, but I was higher on them 570 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: last year than I am this year. Spencer Sanders is 571 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: back at quarterback and he's going to get a lot 572 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: of hyphen rightfully, so right he will win games for 573 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: them this year. Winning the conference though, is something that 574 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: I think we may look back on last year and say, 575 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: didn't know it at the time, But that's as close 576 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: as they were going to get, you know, with this 577 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: current crop of players. So I'm going to call this 578 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: an eight on the boldness scale. Oklahoma State solid team. 579 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: I just not quite feeling them as much this year 580 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: as I was, especially down the stretch last year. All right, 581 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: let's roll on here, you know, Jesse Colin pat ourselves 582 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: on the back for an SEC Homer dominated show. We 583 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: sure are talking a lot of non SEC stuff tonight. 584 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: I have to say it because no one else will. 585 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. Also, I see what you just did, Jesse, 586 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, big ten media days. 587 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk for a couple of minutes on 588 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: this Did you guys hear Ohio State this week? Did 589 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 2: you hear Ryan Day? Did you hear this team talking? 590 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, if you're a Buckeye fan, I 591 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: can understand. I can I can imagine how mad you 592 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: were at the end of last year. But I can 593 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: promise you it does not equate to how these dudes feel. 594 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: And I'm not talking talking about in the days or 595 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: weeks afterward. They walked into Big Ten media days and 596 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: it felt like the Michigan game wrapped up about forty 597 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: five minutes ago. And that's normally like Xbox mentality. Normally, 598 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: it is really hard to bottle that kind of thing 599 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: up and take it with you that long, but they have. 600 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 2: Now Does that mean anything on the football field this fall. No, 601 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: not necessarily, but it also very well could. It's definitely 602 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: how you want your team to feel. Ryan Day said, Look, 603 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he gave a quote. He said, eleven and 604 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: two in a Rose Bowl. 605 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: That's not quite good enough. 606 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: In Ohio State said, we got three preseason goals and 607 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: they are beat Michigan. He said, the team up north, 608 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: they are to win the Big Ten and they are 609 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: to win the National Championship, and as far as I'm concerned, 610 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: we went oh for three last year and they did. 611 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: You know. 612 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: I was at the Ohio State Michigan state game last year, 613 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: which is funny because that was a total splattering. That 614 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: was as thorough a dominant performance as you will have 615 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: seen up there last year. And then I was at 616 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: the Ohio State Michigan and we remember what happened there. 617 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: They brought Jim Knowles in. We just talked about him 618 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: with Oklahoma State. Jim Noles was the former Cowboy defensive 619 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: coordinator and they hired him and he is now the 620 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator at Ohio State. And it's important to note, 621 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: you know Ryan Day when he brought him in there. 622 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: I was listening to our buddy Zach Smith talk about 623 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: this earlier today. He said, Hey, they brought him in. 624 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: They didn't say here's your staff. They brought Jim Knowles 625 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: in and said go get your staff. And so he's 626 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: pretty much he being Ryan Day, He's pretty much said, 627 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: here's what the expectation is going to be. I want 628 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: you to have a top ten defense, and you call 629 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: the shots. I brought you in because I think you're 630 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: the best. You go get your staff, you choose where 631 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: you need to be on game day, you call the shots. 632 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: But here's what I expect in return. And this is 633 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: kind of what he echoed yesterday at Big ten Media Day. 634 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: He said, we got to have a Big ten or 635 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: we got to have a top ten defense. 636 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: That's what we have to have now. 637 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: Realistically, I think if they were the nineteenth or twenty 638 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: second best defense in the country this year, they would 639 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: be well on their way to playing for another national championship. 640 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: That should be the standard. Why shouldn't that be the 641 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: standard up there? It's Ohio State. It's not Ohio. All 642 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: due respect to the Bobcats. I'm sure Athens is a 643 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: great place this time of year, but we're talking about 644 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: we're talking about a group of folks who think the 645 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: Big Ten championship is their preseason birthright. 646 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: Vegas agrees, and yet they are not carrying. 647 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: That thing around Michigan is right now. I can only 648 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: imagine how much that eats at them. So luckily they 649 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: got a crew back again this year. That's an interesting 650 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: team to watch, very interesting, and they don't start soft. 651 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: They got Notre Dame in there. Week one. 652 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: Next up, I could not help but be reminded how 653 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: consequential this Penn State Perdue game is going to be. 654 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: In Week one. It's a Thursday night game. 655 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: So we got the backyard brawl, we got West Virginia 656 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: and pitt we got Penn State and Purdue. And I 657 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: think if you're like, let's say you're a Mississippi State 658 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: fan and you only really care about Mississippi State, it 659 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: may be a little harder for me to sell you 660 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: on those games. But most of you aren't just fans 661 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: of your team. This is not Major League Baseball. Most 662 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: of you, especially if you're watching this show, you got 663 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: your team, but you also love the sport, and if 664 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: you fit that category, it's not hard for me to 665 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: sell you on this. 666 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: But if you need me to, if you need the fifteen. 667 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: Or twenty second pay per view version, I want you 668 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: to understand, in this rivalry, well if you want to 669 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: call it that, I mean, in this Jesse rivalry or 670 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: no rivalry. 671 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: Just match up, right, yeah, matchup? Matchup? 672 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, in this matchup Purdue at one insince o 673 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: four I think, and it's been nine straight that Penn 674 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: State's won, but plus side purduees coming off the first 675 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: nine win season they've had since three. We had to 676 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: look up who the quarterback was back then. Anyway, that's 677 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: not the pay per view sell. Here's the pay per 678 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: view cell purdues over under win totally suspicious. Right now, 679 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: it's floating seven to eight depending on where you look. 680 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: But yet they won nine games last year and virtually 681 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: the entire team will, at least on the surface cause 682 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell's back to the quarterback. A lot of the 683 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 2: team looks like it returns, and a lot of people 684 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: think they have a smart money bet taking the win 685 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: total over for Purdue. And if they win in week one, 686 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how you lose because the rest of 687 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: their schedule is so workable. And also, if Purdue were 688 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: to win this game, do you understand what it feels 689 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: like around Happy Valley? Do you understand what it feels 690 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: like around Penn State? Because they will have already dropped 691 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: a conference game. They'll be zero to one. Oh and 692 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: by the way, they will have a trip to Auburn 693 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: in week three, and so you're looking at the real 694 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: possibility of starting one in two. And I don't need 695 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: to tell anyone how that would go over at Penn State. 696 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: So I know a lot of folks are looking at that, 697 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: and if that game we're in week five, you'd be 698 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: tempted to kind of look over it. Well, it's not 699 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: that thing's sitting right there in week one, and for 700 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: a lot of this other stuff on Penn State schedule 701 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: to matter, Man, they really need that win. I wasn't 702 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: supposed to go in this order, but you know what, 703 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it anyway. 704 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: Here we go the. 705 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: Big Ten West, speaking of Purdue, and they're standing over there. Wisconsin, 706 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: according to the media, the overwhelming favorite to win that division. 707 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: And I look at the Big Ten West, I don't 708 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: see an overwhelming favorite to do anything. 709 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: And so I just find it peculiar. 710 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: I mean, if you made me tabulate, you know, my preseason, 711 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: I guess i'd say Wisconsin's slight, but I would follow 712 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: it up with slight. 713 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: I would say just that word. 714 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: They got a new offensive coordinator there in Bobby Ingram, 715 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: and with good reason, because they ranked one twenty nationally 716 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: in passing offense last year. And there were a lot 717 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: of folks, and you're looking at one of them right 718 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: here on this screen, who are very hopeful that that 719 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: number would be much higher. I have no idea how 720 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: anyone's an overwhelming favorite. There are five teams you could 721 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: sell me on to win this division this year, and 722 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: Wisconsin's one of them. Iowa was one, Nebraska, Minnesota. Perdue 723 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: just mentioned them, especially if they win versus Penn State 724 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: in Week one. Some other things that caught my ear. 725 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: Yesterday we had Pat Fitzgerald from Northwestern, We had Mel Tucker. 726 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: These were among the several coaches who were asked about 727 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: the future of the sport. 728 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: Where do you think it's going? 729 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: And they kind of echoed the sentiment I heard down 730 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: at SEC media Days a lot last week, and that was, 731 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: we don't like that. We don't know a bunch of stuff. 732 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: We don't know how big our conference is going to be. 733 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: We don't know what the rules are going to be. 734 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: We don't there's so much we don't know, and we 735 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: just wish we had better guidance on it. 736 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: That is a familiar theme. 737 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, that is one of the top things 738 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: being talked about behind the scenes. There's a very sizable 739 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: event happening in Nashville next week where a lot of 740 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 2: folks from the more football operations, recruiting operations behind the 741 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 2: scenes areas of college football will be in town. I'll 742 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: be over there for that. It is the number one 743 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: topic on everyone's mind, and that is mapping out the 744 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: future of college football. More on that later as much 745 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: as I can tell you, But in the meantime, you 746 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: got a lot of coaches out there, coaches who have 747 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: been around the block who kind of have to throw 748 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: their hands up and say, I'm just gonna worry about 749 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 2: what I can control over here, and usually that's a 750 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 2: lot more than what it feels like I can control 751 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: right now. Also, the Michigan court situation, I know some 752 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: people want a definitive starter written in stone. 753 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: That's not the way it's going to be there. It 754 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: wasn't last year, it's not gonna be this year. 755 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: But kay McNamara, you kind of get that he is 756 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: the starter there. Jim Harbaugh keeps pointing out, I start 757 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: guys based on how the drives they're on the field 758 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: for end, which is kind of common sense. Right Well, 759 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: McNamara's drives end in points over fifty percent of the time, 760 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: or at least they did last year. And the other 761 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: thing to keep in mind, this is where it kind 762 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: of gets interesting. They start with Colorado State, Yukon, Hawaii, 763 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: and Maryland. It's one of the softest opening months of 764 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 2: any major team out there, which means they can afford 765 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: to do whatever they want to a quarterback, and that 766 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 2: means they're going to probably rotate to help the amount. 767 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: Here's what I always think about, what if. I wouldn't 768 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: say this is a risk, It's just what if. What if, 769 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, you got a couple of. 770 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 2: Games there where Mcnameric just doesn't have it, just doesn't 771 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: have his a game, doesn't have the game. You know 772 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 2: he's capable of playing, and you've seen him play before 773 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: in McCarthy just lights it up. And you've told guys, hey, 774 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: whoever plays best in these first few games, Now, that's 775 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: how I'm going to determine the rest of the season. 776 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: And then the guy you think is second best ends 777 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: up out shining the guy that you really trust more. 778 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: What do you do? I've seen this happen a couple 779 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: of times. What do you do? But then again, the 780 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: counter to that is, well, what better metric would you 781 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: have than on field competition? The fact of the. 782 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: Matter is, if one guy's getting it done on the 783 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: field on a Saturday in the fall. That's what it's 784 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: all about, right, These are not tune up games. They 785 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 2: kind of are, but they all count. So keep an 786 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: eye on that Michigan quarterback rotation. I guess I would 787 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: call it. Okay, we need to have a conversation here 788 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: for just a second, and I am reminding you guys 789 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: of some things in the live chat that don't matter 790 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 2: as much if you're listening to the podcast version, although 791 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: I appreciate both immensely. What are your expectations for LSU 792 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: this year? What are your expectations If you're in Lincoln, Nebraska, 793 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: If you're in Tempe, Arizona, you know who Brian Kelly is. 794 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: You know LSU, You've got a on them. 795 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: But definitely if you're in New Iberia, you know, if 796 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 2: you're in Alexandria, if you're down there in New Orleans 797 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 2: or Baton Rouge, what do you expect wins and losses? 798 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: What do you expect for LSU this year? I did 799 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: not expect to be doing a segment on LSU tonight, 800 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: full disclosure. It was not in our mid term and 801 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 2: short term plans. But then the eye Josh rings the 802 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: other day and I'm outdoors getting some good old Vitamin 803 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: D and a close, dear friend of the program and 804 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: a very hardcore LSU fan is on the other end 805 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 2: of the line, and I hear some distress in his voice, 806 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 2: and he's saying, you know what I wanted this year. 807 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 2: I wanted sort of a consequence free year. I don't 808 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: have high expectations. I wanted to just enjoy LSU football 809 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 2: and Saturdays for what they are. And I wanted to 810 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 2: get back to expectations next year because I know we 811 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 2: got a lot to turn over, and we got a 812 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: culture we got to reinvent. We got to go from 813 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: doing it the way to doing it the Brian Kelly way. 814 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: And I'm on board with that. 815 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: I just know it's not an overnight, snap your fingers 816 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: magic sort of fix. I said, do you need me 817 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 2: for any of this? Like you're asking me a question, 818 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: what are you doing? Said, well, here's my fear. My 819 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 2: fear is that the expectation level, the hype bubble, if 820 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 2: you will, it's inflating a little bit too much. And 821 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, I see us going 822 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: eight and four and I call that a great year, 823 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 2: and I'm worried that there may be a little bit 824 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: too big a chunk of our fan base that's going 825 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: to turn eight and four into a disappointment, and I 826 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: don't want that. 827 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: Can you talk about it on the show? 828 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: And I said, hey, look, who would I be if 829 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: not a person who anyone could pull a string from 830 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 2: and get a segment put in late kig. 831 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: So let's talk about this, shall we. 832 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 2: I go over to my people over on go twenty 833 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 2: four to seven dot com today, because anytime I say 834 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to my LSU folks, was my 835 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: LSU folks. 836 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: And I said, what about this? 837 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: I just put it on the message board and I 838 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: just let it breathe, and I think it's like half 839 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 2: a dozen pages into the thread. Now, I said, you 840 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 2: give me either your expectations wins and losses, or you 841 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 2: just let me know what in terms of e and 842 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 2: intangibles would be success this year. And I was pleasantly surprised. 843 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: We did get a healthy amount of eight and four. Now, 844 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 2: the over under in Vegas is seven, but most every 845 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: fan base is going to have expectations a little bit 846 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 2: higher than the Vegas over under win total because they 847 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 2: factor in things that you don't want to factor in, 848 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 2: the factor in possibility of injury, possibility of all kinds 849 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: of things going awry that you just you refuse to 850 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: acknowledge in the preseason. That's okay, that's normal. And eight 851 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 2: and four was pretty normal in that thread. But there 852 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: were several nine and threes. There were plenty of ten 853 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 2: and twos, more than I could count on both hands. 854 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,959 Speaker 1: So they're out there. 855 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 2: And then we had we had some fringe plus ten wins, 856 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: and so I really want to talk for just a 857 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: second now. You know, I love you guys with our 858 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 2: LSU brethren that are in the then ten win range 859 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: and above. And maybe you nine winners need to pay 860 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 2: close attention, but you ten winners, really you need to 861 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: set down what you're doing. 862 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: And you need to turn the volume up. 863 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: Summer is a dangerous time of year lightning, flash floods, etc. 864 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 2: But also summer is a dangerous time of year because 865 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: we have a combination of several things that have bitten 866 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 2: many a college football fan. 867 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: Before you have the. 868 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 2: Usual off season amnesia, and that's just where we tend 869 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: to forget the lessons this sport teaches us every year 870 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 2: because we have preview magazine season where all those depth 871 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 2: charts look bright and shiny, and there is not a 872 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: red sharpie through any name. Everyone's healthy, everyone's good to go, 873 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: everyone's added seven to ten pounds of muscle. 874 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: And also we have media days, don't we, where all 875 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: we do is talk and magically teams feel like they 876 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: got better since spring and nothing's happened, No football has happened, 877 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: not a single pad has been put on, no popping 878 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: since spring. 879 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: Yet teams all of a sudden get better. Your expectation 880 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 2: goes maybe six wins to we could win nine. What 881 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 2: are you talking about? I just talked to you in April. Well, 882 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 2: that is summer for you. It's a dangerous time of 883 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: year around colle football. So my word of caution and 884 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 2: the word of caution from a friend of mine through me. 885 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm just the middleman here. You know, you wouldn't get 886 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: mad at a guy for just delivering drugs from one 887 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 2: person to another, So don't get mad at me for this. 888 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 2: There are some things at LSU that are worth being 889 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 2: excited about. This could be the best wide receiver stable. 890 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: That was a very common refrain on the go twenty 891 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: four to seven message board today. I saw one of 892 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 2: you say, hey, when is the last time the best 893 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 2: wide receiver stable in this conference, struggled to make a 894 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: bowl game, struggle to win seven games. 895 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: I got you. I get what you're saying. 896 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: And there are three quarterbacks down there, and if any 897 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 2: one of them pans out, then Brian Kelly could do 898 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: some really good things. That defensive front is the envy 899 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: of a lot of college football. Ditto for the linebacker 900 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 2: corps secondary. Who knows who in the world knows If 901 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 2: a freshman left tackle works out, that offensive line could 902 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: greatly exceed expectations. 903 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: I know the talking points. I get it, I get it. 904 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: I get it. 905 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 2: Now let me counter those. We're playing ping pong here 906 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: for just a second. Do not estimate how hard it 907 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 2: is for a new staff to acclimate in the SEC. 908 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 2: It's the hardest conference to acclimate yourself into. And it's 909 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 2: not a head coach and a bunch of dudes who 910 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,479 Speaker 2: he just pooled from around the conference. You got quite 911 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 2: a few of them who have not coached down here before. 912 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: That's not long term detriment, but it is short term 913 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 2: learning curve. 914 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. 915 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 2: The second thing is this secondary is indeed a myth. 916 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: I know they went and got a lot of them 917 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: because they feel like they can play in the SEC. 918 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 2: But the bottom line is they didn't want to have 919 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: to go get any of them. They had to do 920 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 2: that out of necessity. You got some guys who can 921 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 2: throw the ball down here. It's actually a pretty deep 922 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 2: year in the league at the quarterback position, So just 923 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: keep that in mind. The third thing, for all the 924 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 2: names at quarterback, there's a reason that there are three 925 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 2: names and we don't have a clear one, and then 926 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 2: saying things like boy, our second third string looks really 927 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: good too. The reason we don't have it figured out 928 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 2: is because there's not a sure fire number one there. 929 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 2: We've seen Miles Brennan play before. We're confident that he 930 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 2: can that he can adequately serve as the starting QB there. 931 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels different skill set entirely. I would say the 932 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 2: same thing. We're confident that he would not be a 933 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 2: train wreck or anything like that. Nus Meyer, his best 934 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 2: days are clearly ahead of him. I'm as high on 935 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 2: him as anyone outside of his parents, probably, But we 936 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: don't have a clear cut, bona fide sec started there. 937 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 1: We hope we do. That's what faul Camp will. 938 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,479 Speaker 2: Find out for us, but we don't know that yet, 939 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 2: So in your world, obviously, if you're an LSU fan, 940 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 2: you figure out a path where at least one of them, 941 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: if not more than one of them, works out for you. 942 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,720 Speaker 1: There is an alternate. 943 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: Universe where we just have to deal with average quarterback 944 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 2: play this year. It has happened before also, and this 945 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 2: is the one I really want to focus on, which 946 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: I hope we don't have to talk about, but I 947 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: fear we probably will. You got a factor in the unseen. 948 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 2: There's a lot of intangible, a lot of unquantifiable. And 949 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 2: if you were listening to Brian Kelly, if you've listened 950 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 2: to him at all, he keeps using that word culture 951 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 2: and he keeps talking about overturning it. 952 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: We interviewed him. 953 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,439 Speaker 2: I was talking to him one on one last week 954 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: and I said, you keep talking about overturning a culture. 955 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: No one ever does that comfortably. No one ever goes from. 956 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 2: Doing things the way Orizeron did them to doing things 957 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: the way you do them with no hiccups. 958 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: And he acknowledged, You're right. 959 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 2: It's comfortable now because we haven't played games yet, but 960 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 2: when we play games, it'll be real. Now here's the 961 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: way this usually goes for those of you who are 962 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: suffering from amnesia. Here's the way I expect the LSU 963 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: season to go. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I 964 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 2: think they'll start out pretty well. I would at the 965 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 2: moment pick them to beat Florida State. That's not official, 966 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: I just at the moment, for the sake of argument, 967 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 2: Let's say they beat them. They start out two oh 968 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: three and oho. There's the schedule right here, four and oh. 969 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 2: Let's say they start out four and oh and they're 970 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: going into Auburn, and then. 971 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: That tougher stretch starts from there on. You don't find 972 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: out at. 973 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 2: That point really where the warts are because everyone's happy 974 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 2: to buy in as long as you're winning. But there 975 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 2: are losses somewhere along the way on this schedule. I'm 976 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 2: not even going to pick out which ones they are. 977 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying when they start to happen, when the bounce 978 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 2: of the ball doesn't go your way, when the turnover 979 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 2: battles minus two against you, and you lose as a 980 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 2: four point favorite one Saturday, then you get back in 981 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 2: that locker room, then you get back on the bus, 982 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 2: on the plane, you go home. Guys have Sunday to 983 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 2: text each other, and slowly but surely, the way that 984 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 2: they used to do things is the way some guys 985 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 2: will want to fall back. Those are the things some 986 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 2: guys will want to fall back on. It is almost 987 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 2: inevitable when you're trying to overturn a culture because there's 988 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 2: some residue that's left over. Doesn't matter when you win. 989 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 2: When you lose is when this stuff starts to bubble up. 990 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 2: And if you lose a few more games, then you 991 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 2: start to find out it turns out there are some 992 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: guys still here that really do not serve the long 993 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 2: term best interest of what we're trying to do as 994 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 2: a program. Those guys won't be there next year, But 995 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 2: the point is you inevitably still have some guys around 996 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 2: there that are are much more condition of doing things 997 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: the old way that probably aren't best cut out to 998 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 2: do things the new way. You can't overturn it completely overnight. 999 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly knows that. I think we'll find that out 1000 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 2: this year. 1001 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: Now. 1002 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: That means they're not going twelve and oh what we're 1003 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 2: talking about is can they still go nine to three 1004 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 2: with that? 1005 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. They may be able to. 1006 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is and this is where my personal 1007 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 2: focus is with them this year, since it's year one 1008 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 2: under that staff, is almost about twenty twenty three to 1009 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 2: me more than it is twenty twenty two. 1010 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 1: LSU. 1011 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: This year, I'm worried about filtration, and I'm worried about recruiting, 1012 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 2: and the bottom line is there could be some issues 1013 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 2: behind the scenes. There could be I'm speaking generically. This 1014 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: is not inside information. I don't know anything about any 1015 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 2: guy down there that's giving them trouble right now. I 1016 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 2: am speaking from fifty thousand feet. If losses start to happen, 1017 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 2: if there's some bumps in the road, it's still not 1018 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 2: the worst thing in the world. It is a natural 1019 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: filtration process. You are finding out who the best long 1020 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 2: term solutions are in your locker room, and you're finding 1021 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 2: out the guys that you don't want to be in 1022 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 2: the fox hole with, and you're finding out things that 1023 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 2: may suck right now but are greatly going to assist 1024 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 2: you in twenty twenty three and beyond. 1025 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: That's the first part of it. 1026 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 2: That's why sometimes losses in year one aren't the worst 1027 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: thing in the world. That's what I'm saying. And also 1028 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 2: in the other compartment over there, every week recruiting every 1029 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: single week, you're putting a product on the field that 1030 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 2: you're using to try and win a game, but also 1031 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 2: trying to sell a vision to a new crop of 1032 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 2: talent because those guys, absolutely you do have your choice 1033 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 2: of So you're bringing in one hundred percent of guys 1034 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,479 Speaker 2: hopefully that want to do things your way. 1035 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: That's what this year is about for me. 1036 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 2: So what my buddy was talking about and what I 1037 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 2: kind of echo in a general sense, is there is 1038 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 2: a path where LS you go seven and five this 1039 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 2: year and it's successful. Not because you love going to 1040 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 2: the Liberty Bowl in late December, but if you go 1041 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 2: seven and five and in the process weeded out some 1042 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 2: parts of your program that didn't need to be there 1043 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 2: that maybe maybe wouldn't have weeded themselves out if you 1044 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 2: went nine and three, what sets you up better long term? 1045 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 2: I know no one wants to win seven games when 1046 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,479 Speaker 2: they can win nine games. I'm saying if it does 1047 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 2: come to a seven and five season, this is the 1048 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 2: kind of situation where there could still be a lot 1049 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 2: of positives in that seven and five. Now, if Georgia 1050 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 2: goes seven and five this year, I'm not having this 1051 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 2: conversation with them. But if LSU or Florida go seven 1052 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 2: to five this year, there is this path just like 1053 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 2: Nick Nick Saban won seven games his first year and 1054 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 2: had to win a bowl game to get to seven. 1055 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 1: They found out. 1056 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 2: Some things about that program, and there were a lot 1057 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 2: of faces that weren't around the next year. And I 1058 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 2: think we all remember what happened the next year and 1059 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 2: then the thirteen or fourteen years after that. So I 1060 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 2: took the call, I delivered the message, and I hope 1061 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 2: you heard every word. They're watching us in Seattle, Washington, 1062 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 2: Panama City told you they were tuned in down there. 1063 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 2: Smackover Arkansas, our friends and Smackover are tuned in and Jacksonville, Alabama. 1064 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of how you weed out a lot of 1065 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: the folks in the South. 1066 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 2: When you're playing Jacksonville State, how many folks say, oh, it. 1067 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 1: Must be nice for those kids to play in Jacksonville, Florida. 1068 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 1069 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 2: Those game caps or not from Jacksonville, Florid. They're from Jacksonville, Alabama. 1070 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 2: How about some sleepers this year. We had a question 1071 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 2: about this earlier today, So let's take a look at 1072 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 2: the question. Football guy Andy hit us up and said 1073 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 2: which teams are the biggest sleepers this year? I got 1074 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 2: three of them for you, but really I got one 1075 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: and then a couple that are a little bit further 1076 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 2: down the line. And by sleeper, I mean I'm looking 1077 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 2: for teams that could finish a solid two or more 1078 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 2: wins above their preseason win total. Baylor is the first 1079 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 2: one and foremost for me. Baylor their preseason over under 1080 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 2: is eight wins. This is the team that won the 1081 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 2: Big twelve last year. To me, from this point moving forward, 1082 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 2: as long as David Ran as my coach there, I 1083 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 2: am going to expect a product that will always exceed 1084 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 2: the sum of the parts because I respect the development. 1085 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 2: I certainly I respect the way. I respect the philosophy 1086 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 2: more so than anything about the program. But the player 1087 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 2: development very very good. They put their guys in the 1088 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 2: right position. You rarely watch a Baylor game and say 1089 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 2: those guys weren't prepared today. Non issue for them. Also, 1090 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,399 Speaker 2: I believe the offense is in good hands. I think 1091 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 2: right now, if you have fear about this team, it's 1092 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 2: who do they have it wide receiver? 1093 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: Who do have it? Running back? They lost a lot 1094 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: of those guys to the NFL. That's true. So here 1095 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: is my approach with Baylor this year. 1096 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 2: Blake Shapin at quarterback is a new starter kind of 1097 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 2: even though he started games for him last year. 1098 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 1: But he's a new starter. But he's the guy they chose. 1099 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: They chose him. 1100 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 2: He started the Big Twelve title game for him and 1101 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 2: won it. And they battled it out in spring and 1102 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 2: he beat out Bohannan and so Dave Randa in a 1103 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 2: move that exhibits I think more voluntary character, I guess 1104 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 2: I would call it than most other coaches have. He 1105 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 2: went to Gary Bohannon and said, this job is not 1106 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 2: yours right now. You got beat out in the spring, 1107 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 2: and he told him so early that it gave him 1108 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 2: time to transfer, and he did. Ninety nine percent of 1109 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 2: coaches out there would never do that. They would maintain 1110 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 2: the battle into fall so they could have adequate death. 1111 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 2: And David r Anna said, yeah, certainly I could have 1112 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 2: done that. I respect the kid too much. I mean, 1113 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 2: he he's the reason we got to the Big Twelve 1114 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 2: title game last year. But he was our second best quarterback, 1115 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 2: so I told him and he transferred out. Blake Shapan's 1116 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 2: the guy. Point is, yeah, Shapan's a new starter kind 1117 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 2: of quote unquote, but. 1118 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: He is the guy they chose. And I also think 1119 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: you cannot overstate what Jeff Grimes did for them last 1120 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: year offensive coordinator, or even what Eric Matteos, their offensive 1121 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: line coach, meant for them last year. I trust the 1122 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 1: offensive product because I trust the offensive system out there 1123 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: right now. A lot of wide receivers whose names we 1124 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 1: don't know that I think will be adequate enough. Ditto 1125 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: at the running back position. But also what excites me 1126 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 1: most about them is they have their choice at quarterback 1127 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: and they could very well have the best O line 1128 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: and D line in the conference. 1129 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 2: When you can check those three boxes for me, and 1130 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 2: you got one of the best head coaches in the conference, 1131 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 2: you will always be a contender. And so they're sitting 1132 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 2: at eight wins over under Wintle in the preseason. I 1133 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 2: think that Gameto first. When they play Oklahoma State, that 1134 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 2: is a big one. I think that's Oklahoma State. I 1135 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 2: don't know that just can't be their conference opener, but 1136 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 2: that is a big early season game cause they get 1137 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 2: him in Waco. See later, everyone's eyes go to at 1138 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 2: Oklahoma and at Texas to make those games matter in 1139 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things. That Oklahoma State game and 1140 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 2: for that matter, the game at Iowa State the week before, 1141 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,439 Speaker 2: those are huge early season tests for Baylor. I got 1142 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 2: confidence in Baylor, so they are very underrated for me. Also, 1143 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 2: I talked about Auburn the other night. Auburn is a 1144 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 2: team that I think fits in this conversation. Here's the formula. 1145 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 2: They're over underwin total six. Okay, what is the path 1146 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 2: for Auburn to be an overachiever? How do they get 1147 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 2: to seven or eight wins? Well, the first thing they 1148 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 2: do is they have to harness up everything that I 1149 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 2: feel about the program right now. There are a lot 1150 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 2: of folks down there that have Brian Harson's back. They 1151 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,760 Speaker 2: saw what happen in February. A lot of the players 1152 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 2: they talked to us about it. Last week, they took ownership. 1153 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 2: They met with the president of the university themselves, which 1154 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 2: I don't think was widely publicized because it rarely ever happens, 1155 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 2: but they did. Can you find a way organizationally to 1156 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 2: harness all that up? How do you harness emotion up 1157 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 2: long term? Kind of like Ohio State's trying to do 1158 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 2: right now and make it manifest itself on the field 1159 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 2: in the fall. 1160 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: It's tricky, but it's possible. That's the first thing. The 1161 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: second thing is they have to be what I call 1162 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: the SEC's Bob team this year. 1163 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. There's always a team. 1164 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 2: Bob is an acronym stands for bouncing ball. I'm trying 1165 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,399 Speaker 2: to make it work, kind of like fetch. I'm trying 1166 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 2: to make that be our version of fetch, and it 1167 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 2: hasn't happened yet, but I think it'll take off one day. 1168 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 2: They need to be the SEC's Bob team. They need 1169 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,919 Speaker 2: to be that team. Every conference has one every year 1170 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 2: where you keep watching them and you keep saying, how 1171 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,479 Speaker 2: do they keep winning games? The balls just bouncing their way. 1172 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 2: It feels like they're plus turnovers every week ball bounces 1173 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 2: their way. They probably keep getting out gained. Box or 1174 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 2: tells one story, scoreboard tells another story. Auburn has to 1175 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 2: be that team this year because they're not just they're 1176 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 2: not outmanning people, they're not going up and down the 1177 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 2: field on people. But they're physical enough and they're talented 1178 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 2: enough to win games, especially if you hand them games. 1179 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,879 Speaker 2: And the third thing is they got to defend home field. 1180 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,839 Speaker 2: Look at this schedule, Mercer, San Jose State, Penn State, 1181 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 2: Missouri and LSU. 1182 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: That's their first five and they're all at home. 1183 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 2: If they do nothing more then take care of business 1184 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 2: at Jordenhair Stadium, especially later in the year they got 1185 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 2: Arkansas in there, maybe they pull one against Texas A 1186 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 2: and M or even if they don't, if they've done 1187 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 2: no more than just take care of business at home, 1188 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 2: they could set themselves up to overachieve. I know that's 1189 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 2: easier said than done. Penn State and LSU Weeks three 1190 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 2: and five games they probably won't be favored in, but 1191 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 2: it'll be a very. 1192 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: Close point spread there. 1193 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,800 Speaker 2: Home field Jorden Hair Stadium, been very outspoken about it lately, 1194 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 2: one of the best in the country. The other team 1195 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to look at is all the way out 1196 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 2: on the West Coast to UCLA. That's the team that's 1197 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 2: in one of the sneakiest good positions to overachieve this 1198 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 2: year of any of them. Now, you're not going to 1199 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 2: sneak up on Vegas With UCLA. The over underwent to 1200 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 2: hold is already eight and a half. That's pretty high, 1201 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 2: especially when you consider what they have not done under 1202 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 2: Chip Kelly as of late. But the main reason I 1203 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,400 Speaker 2: wanted to point them out is this is the opportune 1204 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 2: moment for them. They return good talent in DTR at quarterback, 1205 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 2: Charbonnat's back at running back. But also it's just overall 1206 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 2: it's the best collection of talent Chip Kelly's had so far. 1207 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 2: And think about the rest of the Pac twelve USC 1208 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 2: has churn. Everything's new there. Oregon has churned, everything's new there. 1209 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 2: They get Utah at home, which, as I've said before, 1210 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 2: isn't such an intimidating home stadium. 1211 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 1: It means you don't have to go to Salt Lake City. 1212 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: That's the important part to note there. 1213 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 2: So if not this year, then when they've got the 1214 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 2: fourth best odds to win the Pac twelve championship this year, 1215 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 2: do the CLA Bruins. They need a fast start and 1216 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,439 Speaker 2: they need this to be the year that Chip Kelly 1217 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 2: can point to and say, look that year, that twenty 1218 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 2: twenty two year we finally made it. 1219 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 1: We kind of stay on this theme. We had one 1220 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: more question I wanted to get to. I appreciate you 1221 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: guys being tuned in. 1222 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 2: Another quick reminder, I just put it in the chat 1223 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 2: late Kickstores open right now. I can't promise anything after 1224 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 2: this because I'm going to publicize it the moment we 1225 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 2: go off air of it. Right now, you guys are 1226 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 2: the only ones who know. Do me a quick favor 1227 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 2: if you're watching live. We have several of you in here. 1228 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 2: We've got about sixteen hundred watching live. We have three 1229 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty likes on this video, which I would 1230 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 2: call unacceptable. And if I don't say it, Jesse or 1231 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 2: Colin will so do me a favor thumbs up right there. 1232 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 2: Just click the like button and that's it. 1233 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: We move on. 1234 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 2: We had a question earlier today from Princess Marley Riley. 1235 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 2: Princess Marley Riley asks which team has the toughest schedule 1236 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 2: in the country this year. Never being one to narrow 1237 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 2: anything down, I got four. I wanted to run by 1238 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,439 Speaker 2: you right quick. Now I could do is just pick 1239 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 2: a bunch of SEC teams because all of those schedules 1240 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 2: are hard. I took two from the SEC, and I 1241 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 2: took one from the ACC, one from the Big ten. 1242 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 2: Arkansas has the toughest schedule in the country to me 1243 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 2: this year. Here's the very, very long and short of it. 1244 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 2: They play in the SEC West and they play Cincinnati 1245 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 2: and they go to Brigham Young. I don't really think 1246 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 2: I need to say much more, because you know what 1247 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 2: playing in the SEC West consists of. Oh and by 1248 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 2: the way, one of their cupcake games I use that 1249 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 2: term very loosely, is against Hugh Freeze and Liberty. The 1250 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 2: only true layup game here is Missouri State. And here's 1251 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 2: a fun little fact about that Missouri State game. Those 1252 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 2: of you in Arkansas already know this. For those of 1253 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 2: you outside of Fayette Bo paper pop time. Do you 1254 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 2: know who the head coach at Missouri State is right now? 1255 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 2: That would be one William Patrino or as you might 1256 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 2: know him, Bobby. Does he have a history with Arkansas? 1257 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 2: I struggle to remember that sometimes. Next up the Auburn Tigers. 1258 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 2: Just talked about the Tigers like five minutes ago. Here's 1259 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 2: the long and short of it for the Auburn schedule 1260 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 2: at Georgia and at Alabama. Does anyone else have to 1261 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 2: do that? I don't think so. And they got to 1262 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 2: do it every year now in the even number years, 1263 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 2: that's the years that Auburn has to go on the road. 1264 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: They gotta go to Athens and two. 1265 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 2: Tuscaloosa if that wasn't enough, you also have the SEC West. 1266 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 2: And if that wasn't enough, Auburn saw fit to schedule 1267 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 2: Penn State. So I know, someone inevitably will say, yeah, 1268 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 2: but they play Mercer. Yeah, I know, but they also 1269 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 2: play those other nine teams that I talked about. So 1270 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 2: consider this stretch. Here's a little exercise I like to 1271 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 2: do sometimes. I'm not even gonna pick out Georgia, not 1272 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 2: gonna pick Bama. Let's just ignore them for a second. 1273 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 2: I want you to look at that ten twenty nine 1274 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 2: through eleven twelve stretch. Auburn plays Arkansas at Mississippi State 1275 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 2: and Texas A and M. None of those teams are 1276 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 2: among the top two on their schedule. Arkansas at Mississippi 1277 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 2: State and Texas A and M. That little stretch there 1278 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 2: would be the hardest three games stretch for most every 1279 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 2: team in the ACC or the Big twelve. 1280 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: Or the Pac twelve. 1281 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 2: And that's just a garden variety, little three game sliver, 1282 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 2: little three games sample size. They're not even taking the 1283 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 2: two hardest teams they have to play. That's life if 1284 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: you're the Auburn head coach. Just like that, every single year, Hey, 1285 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech has a ridiculous schedule this year. Jeff Collins 1286 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 2: is a name that's on pretty much everyone's hot seat list. 1287 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,479 Speaker 1: Here's the good or bad news. 1288 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 2: I guess, depending on your perspective, you will not have 1289 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,959 Speaker 2: to wait to find out this will not be a 1290 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,439 Speaker 2: mystery team. Georgia Tech starts the season and they will 1291 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 2: have played by the time the sun sets on October first. 1292 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 2: They will have played Clemson, Ole Miss, at Central Florida, 1293 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 2: at pitt I don't think I need to tell you 1294 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 2: they won't be favored in any of those games. Also, 1295 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 2: they get Georgia on the road at the end of 1296 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 2: the season for good measure. Oh and by the way, 1297 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 2: they also go to Florida State. They go to Virginia Tech. 1298 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 2: They got to play Miami. They go to North Carolina. 1299 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I tried, I really did. 1300 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 2: But I cannot find a viable path for Georgia Tech making. 1301 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: Much noise this year. I can't, and you know me, 1302 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 1: you know I want to. I can't. It's hard for me. 1303 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 2: A last team that I wanted to point out here 1304 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 2: is in the Big Ten. Indiana got a really, really 1305 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 2: tough stretch this year. They go to Nebraska, they got Michigan. 1306 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 2: They got Penn State at Ohio State at Michigan State. 1307 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 2: They added a trip to Cincinnati for good measure. Here, 1308 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 2: I did want to draw your attention right quick to 1309 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 2: the last game on the schedule. 1310 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: Do any of you care about it? 1311 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 2: Maybe not, but I want you to think about the 1312 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 2: theme that I've woven throughout the show about the status 1313 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 2: of the Big Ten West. 1314 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: Indiana hosts Purdue the last game of the year. 1315 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 2: That is the I guess the Friday or Saturday after Thanksgiving, 1316 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 2: that's the twenty sixth of November. I know it may 1317 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 2: not exactly sound off alarms in your head when you 1318 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 2: look at that game, you know that could be a 1319 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 2: very consequential game that could be playing for a trip 1320 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 2: to Indianapolis, for all we know, in the Big Ten 1321 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 2: championship game. So Indiana could have one of those seasons 1322 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 2: where they're struggling to make a bowl game, but they 1323 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 2: may have that little super Bowl, that little carrot on 1324 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 2: the end of the string there. We may not be 1325 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 2: able to do anything consequential, but we can wreck someone 1326 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 2: else's season. So let's work towards that. Just a little 1327 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 2: something to keep in mind. I appreciate you guys being 1328 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 2: tuned in. We could have moved some of these topics 1329 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 2: to Sunday night. We went over an hour tonight, but 1330 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 2: we don't really do that. We just empty the barrel 1331 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 2: every show and then we take a few days and 1332 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 2: hopefully it'll fill up again, and as you've seen, it always. 1333 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: Does for us. 1334 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for making this possible. We 1335 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 2: are at the beginning of August going to three nights 1336 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 2: a week. I don't think I've told you that yet. 1337 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 2: We are going to three nights a week, Sunday night, 1338 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 2: Tuesday night, Thursday night. Not next week, but the week 1339 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 2: after that. So when August starts, when everyone's in camp, 1340 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 2: that's when we'll be going to three nights. 1341 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:00,479 Speaker 1: It's a week. 1342 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 2: I'm getting pretty close to being able to tell you 1343 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 2: where the every given Saturday tour is going week one. 1344 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 2: We are looking very very much forward to that. Got 1345 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 2: a lot of excitement in store this year. And speaking 1346 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 2: of store, Lake Kickstore open right now here you go, 1347 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 2: here's the link one more time. I'm about to tweek 1348 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 2: this out so the rest of the world, those who 1349 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 2: were irresponsible and not in the live show tonight, they 1350 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 2: will know. And at that point as you've seen, anything 1351 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 2: can happen. I've got some products that are not in 1352 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 2: there yet that when they are in there may end. 1353 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Up being your favorites. So just stay tuned. It's been 1354 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: a huge success for us. Thank you. 1355 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for producer Jesse, for director Colin. I'm Josh Pate. 1356 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 2: Have yourselves a great rest of your night in start 1357 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 2: to your weekend. We'll see you back here at the 1358 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 2: same time Sunday night. Until then, couple us