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Speaker 1: You gotta go full in. Physical physicality is important to me.

425
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: She saw a wrestler have their teeth go up and

426
00:23:52,480 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: there right. I've heard you talk about how we'll first

427
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: been me around spoiler. There's this big, crazy orgy scene.

428
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: That's all we'll say. But like, I remember you talked

429
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: about that scene in an interview. You were like it

430
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: was shocking to like show up to set that day

431
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: even though I wrote this, yeah, this thing the set piece.

432
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: But it's like it's I think it's so cool that

433
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: you get to honor the process of writing it separate,

434
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: but you're not like thinking ahead, and I think that's good.

435
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: I think that doesn't hamper the writing process itself because

436
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: then like you would just limit yourself as you're coming

437
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: up with ideas or as you're putting words on paper, right, sure, totally.

438
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean it always fascinates me. I mean, and I'm

439
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: so new to writing and just have done these movies

440
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: over the last like five years, I think, and it

441
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: amazes me all the modes of the process. Like when

442
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: you're writing it, you were you're visualizing something, right, you

443
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, I have this clear vision. And all

444
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: three movies that I've written were then directed by the

445
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: person that I wrote them with, you know, so you're

446
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: sort of like, yeah, we're locked in on kind of

447
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: what this looks like. And then you cast it. You

448
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: get to set and all the actors are bringing their

449
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: perspectives and that's really fun and opens it up in

450
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: a cool way of even stuff. You know, the way

451
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: each actor thinks about their own character is going to

452
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: be so much more specific to them and and nuanced

453
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: in a way than even we've been thinking about the

454
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: characters while writing them. So I kind of always love

455
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: that that watching the actors bring stuff in and ask

456
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: questions that you're like, oh, I never even thought about

457
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: that that way, Like yeah, and then watching things come

458
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: about like, yeah, that orgy scene, it's funny. Well it's

459
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: also it was just so jarring, like to see so

460
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: many a room full of so many naked people, like

461
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: faking sex acts specifically is a jarring thing to to

462
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: witness in person. And on the one hand, it was

463
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: so like beautiful because all of these Italian background actors

464
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: just were so joyous and like having a great time.

465
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: We cast all um couples like they're all they were

466
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: all real life couples, like everyone interacting together already knew

467
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: each other, um, and we're like comfortable with what they

468
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: were doing. And we basically said just do whatever you

469
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: feel comfortable. Like we didn't go around to each couple

470
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: and be like you'll be relating him and he'll be

471
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: taking it from behind. You know. We were sort of

472
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: like we kind of put dealers choice, except that like

473
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: you guys have to be standing, you guys have to

474
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: be on the couch whenever you come up with great

475
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: and everybody was still comfortable really going forward in ways

476
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: that I was like whoa, um, which it was. It

477
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: was so much to take in, and I felt very

478
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: grateful that everybody was kind of giving us they're all

479
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: in a way. And the funny thing to think about

480
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 1: is actually that by the time we were shooting that scene,

481
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: it was so toned down from like the original draft

482
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: when Jeff and I are just really fucking around. Well,

483
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: there were some really specific things we wrote that then,

484
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 1: even when it just came time to like send the

485
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: script out to actors, like I actually the role that

486
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: aid and played, there was a line in the stage

487
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: directions early on that was like so and so like

488
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: pops out from eating his asshole and said blah blah blah,

489
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: and like truly, as we went to send it out,

490
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: we were like, you know, maybe we'll just make that

491
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: a little more vague. Let's rimming, not eating his asshole.

492
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: But I do appreciate that on the page it said

493
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: eating his asshole, eating his asshole. But then, like, you

494
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: don't realize when you're writing something that if you write

495
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: down eating his asshole, you will get a call from

496
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: someone who's like, so, what are you thinking about for

497
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: the asshole? Do you think we see it? Do you like?

498
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: It is a call? It's a call. It's it's also

499
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: like a call from someone's manager being like, um, we

500
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: want to talk about the Yeah, like what exactly are

501
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: you hoping to show um? And then exactly all the

502
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: stuff of like, so should we place a fake asshole

503
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: over a real asshole? Are you hoping to see whole?

504
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: And we're like, we don't need to people, we don't

505
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: need to see whole. Um. I actually saw on the

506
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: scene that got cut from this movie I did years

507
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: ago called Sleeping with Other People that Leslie Headland directed

508
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: and such a fun movie. So in the movie my

509
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: it's like me and Jason Sidekis. It's kind of like

510
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: a play on one hearing at Sally like we're not

511
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: going to have sex with each other and just be

512
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: friends and more than we're having sex realized those people.

513
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: And my character has this like sexually obsessive relationship with

514
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: Adam Scott, who's this like sort of sociopathic doctor. And

515
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: I cut there's a scene where I come to his

516
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: office and we have sex on his desk, and at

517
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: the start of that scene we're make king out. Then

518
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: he like flips me around, bends me over the desk,

519
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: pulls my skirt up, pulls my underwear down in the

520
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: stage directions, goes down on me from behind. Then So

521
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: two things. One the day that we shot that scene.

522
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: The cameras doing this move around the front of the desk,

523
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: so you're not seeing it's like you see from the side.

524
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you see a little of my pass as you

525
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: see what's going on. Then it pans around to the front,

526
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: so it's just on my face as he goes down

527
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: behind me. And it was so hot on this stage

528
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: that we were, which is such a nightmare. You're like

529
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 1: so sweaty and gross, being like it's going to be

530
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 1: like in my butt cheeks. Um. So I had like

531
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: nude underwear on a nude thong under like my Lacy

532
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: character costume thong. The idea was like the thong would

533
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: get pulled down, but the underwear underneath would stay on

534
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: to did three takes total. The first two takes everything

535
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: stayed where it was supposed to. The third take everything

536
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: came off and things just proceed. Obviously, you know, Adam

537
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: Scott's not getting touching fully and think it's more like

538
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: forehead to cheeks, you know, and in my face. I

539
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but Leslie Hedlyn comes running in

540
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: and she's like, well that was the one. Oh my god,

541
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: it seems I've heard of this happening, Like I have

542
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: a friend. I won't say who because he's not sharing

543
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: the story, but I will share it for him anonymously.

544
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: He was doing a sex scene with an actor that

545
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: he had kind of been like flirty with. Um And

546
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: there was a long day because like it was like

547
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: an involved sex scene. You're getting multiple angles. Yeah, And

548
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: so ultimately, like a third of the way into shooting it,

549
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: things like because I've only worn this one's actually in

550
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: Fire Island. It's that like weird little cock sock. And

551
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: then there's the there's the strip that goes over your whole.

552
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: It's like like a tape that sticks to like the

553
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: top of your ass, so that they have And then

554
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: a thing they had this for women where it more

555
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: just you tape it kind of above your pubic hare

556
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: in the front, and then it goes all the way

557
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: around and there's like a little heart that tapes above

558
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: your button. It's a little heart, yes, And it's actually adorable.

559
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: It's super romantic. It is nice, it's cute. I kept it.

560
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? I reused mine on every job. I

561
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: have the same one. It's a security blanket. Um No,

562
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: but this guy was saying that like it was like

563
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: a third of the way through them shooting this and

564
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: it was falling off and the other actor who again

565
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: like I think that ended up sucking. Afterwards, it was like,

566
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: I think we should just not I think we should

567
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: just get rid of it, and and the guy was

568
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: like okay. So then they literally just shot that pretty

569
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: much like kind of not doing it, but like not

570
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: not not not smushing generally they were smushed right, not insertion,

571
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: but like smushing was happening. It was frauding. We're gonna

572
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: say they fraud I get that those little things like

573
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: you always end up sweating them off because you're so nervous,

574
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: like you you have all this adrenaline from shooting a

575
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: kind of scene and even and I'm like so comfortable

576
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: clearly with nudity and even with scenes like that, Like

577
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I actually always think it's funny how embarrassed actors get

578
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: about it. And I'm kind of like, whatever, just another

579
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: scene who cares. Like the stakes feel to me just

580
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: as high as like a super dramatic scene where I

581
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: want all the emotions to flow perfectly, like a sex scene.

582
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: But the last thing I'll say about the Leslie Headland

583
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: movie Adam Scott scene is then they cut that heart

584
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: out anyway, because everybody thought he was eating my asshole

585
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: and apparently audiences did not like not. They had very

586
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: strong negative reaction. Is this I'm about to ask to

587
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: me getting rid? Of course, I'm asking a silly question. Potentially,

588
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: Was there was this before intimacy coordinators like, was this

589
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: a time when they were on set? Okay, way before? Yeah,

590
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean intimacy coordinators are so like, we didn't have

591
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: one on Glow until our third really yeah. And then,

592
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: of course I had already shot my most graphics sex

593
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: scenes like season on the pilot Sweetie Sweet Guy, which

594
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: actually would make me a little nervous. It was my

595
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: first time doing like full nudity. And then they were like, oh,

596
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: we test Rich and I was like, oh great, that's

597
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: so nice. It's the person I know. A second later,

598
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I mean, I think he'd be

599
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: comfortable with me saying this at this point. But the

600
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: guy I was doing the sex scene within Fire Island, Zane,

601
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: we were dating at the time, and it and it

602
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: made it a little weird, weirder because there's layers, you

603
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then like I remember the

604
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: intimacy coordinator came in and I've shared this on the podcast,

605
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: but my involuntary response to some questions she was asking,

606
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: I started crying. I was really nervous, and also that

607
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: way it was like this the content of the scene

608
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: was you know, it was edgy, and you know it

609
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: was very complicated and your character gets taken advantage of

610
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: and you're unaware that this other thing and it was weird.

611
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 1: It was like, it's very that thing you were saying.

612
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: She was like, how are you feeling about the scene.

613
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I can't wait. Let's do

614
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: it right, Let's just get do it. I heard it's

615
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: like fight Corey, all right. It's like very blocking. It's

616
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: like and then she goes right, and then she goes, wow,

617
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: do you think your character feels about the scene. I'm

618
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: so sorry, and I was very I feel like I

619
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: have to honor this emotion and I'm sobbing and I

620
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: love that. I literally asked her. I was like, do

621
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: people do this, like do they break down? She goes,

622
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: it happens way more than you think and people wouldn't

623
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: have but it makes sense. See, I feel like it's

624
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: like crazy to think that we didn't have intimacy coordinators

625
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: first so long, because it's so nice to have another

626
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: person there to talk to all this stuff. Although as

627
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: I say that, I I've maybe never worked with one

628
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: because I just I would always I'm too comfortable, you know, uncle,

629
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 1: because it was mostly on Glow, where by the third

630
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: season of Glow, I was so tapped back into my

631
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: true nature, which is loving nudity and being really open

632
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: about that stuff. And it kind of became a running

633
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: joke where they kept asking me if I wanted the

634
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: intimacy coordinator, but for scenes that I was doing by myself,

635
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: like no joke. There was a masturbation scene that actually

636
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: ended up getting cut. Also, these audiences need to stop

637
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: reacting negative to you getting your nut? Can they let

638
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: me get my nut? But it made me laugh that

639
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: the scene was like me and a T shirt and

640
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: shorts getting under a comforter, putting my hand out the comforter,

641
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: totally alone, and they were like, do you want to

642
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: do you want to see the intimacy coordinator? I was like,

643
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: I don't know to cordeograph my own like hand and myself. No,

644
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm okay to do it for myself. There was on

645
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: on horse Girl, and I guess horse Girl was sort

646
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: of pre intimacy coordinator right before. Yeah, and but but

647
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: I felt like I had an awareness because I had

648
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: written that and I was a producer on it. I

649
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: was really taking all that stuff so seriously. And I

650
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: became your own coordinator essentially, which was strange because we

651
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: shoot this super like that's the weirdest sex scene I've

652
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: ever shot. It's like a dream sequence sex scene with

653
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: these two different actors, John Reynolds who plays my levity,

654
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: Matthew Gray Googler. We've known John for years. John was

655
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: like a Brooklyn comedy boy with us, like we've known

656
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: him for years and years and years. So funny, such

657
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: a he's so good. He's so funny, and he's very

658
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: like channeling like young Judge Reinhold, and sure there is something, yeah,

659
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: that's great. There is something like fast vintage. I hate

660
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: that words. Yes, it's fast times. It's like I've always

661
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: try to put my finger on him because he's amazing

662
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: and search party and there is this like nice I

663
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: don't know, like patina to him. He's so lovable and

664
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: he has kind of like a breathiness, you know, it's

665
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: like that he would fit right into that, Yes, totally.

666
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: But it was so funny to me to like, I'm

667
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: the person then taking him aside to be like, Okay,

668
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: so in this scene that we've just rehearsed, you know

669
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna unzip the back of this suit, and I

670
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that you know that when

671
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: you pull the suit off of me, I'm not wearing

672
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: a bra underneath, and you'll see my my breast and

673
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: at that time, if you feel comfortable, I think you

674
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: could put a hand on my breast and I would

675
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with that if you feel comfortable with it,

676
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: but also you absolutely don't have to, and he would

677
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: just be like, yeah, I feel comfortable with um. But

678
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: the way, are we talking too much about sex scenes?

679
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: Please tell the readers are going to be reading the

680
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: close reading this all that we're going to talk about.

681
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: But I didn't realize how many great stories I have

682
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: about that. So on Horse Girls, So the scene is

683
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: it's like becomes a dream sequence right where it's me

684
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: and John Reynolds were kissing. The way we wrote it

685
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: is sort of like they sort of start to have

686
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: sex and then he turns into Matthew Greg Googler who's

687
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: playing like my favorite actor on a TV show that

688
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: my character watches, and now we're in this dream sequence

689
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: and then a bunch of other weird stuff happens. So

690
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: we had planned this elaborate camera move, and then of

691
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: course immediately on the day realized that like we don't

692
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: have a budget too, Like we're like, oh, yeah, we

693
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: don't have a crane that's gonna like pan over this

694
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: actor's back, like we were going to pan over their back.

695
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: So it was like, well, we'll shoot with one actor,

696
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: we'll all take a break, we'll shoot with the other actor,

697
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: and we'll just hide that it looks like one shot

698
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: but it's not really. So then of course on the

699
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: day were like, oh, we can't do that. It has

700
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: to be one shot. So Jeff Bey, know who's directing,

701
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: is like, okay, figure out how we can do it.

702
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: He goes, we're gonna push in on you guys on

703
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: the bed like you're laying. We're gonna do a Cowboys

704
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: switch pushing, so we're tight on you and John Reynolds

705
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: will get all the way close up on your faces.

706
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: He'll kiss down your body, then Matthew will kiss and

707
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: you'll like do the rest of the sex seemed to completion,

708
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: so we start to rehearse it. We start to realize, like, okay,

709
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: so they both have to be in the room at

710
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: the same time. Not only that, but you can tell

711
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: when if one of them gets off the bed for

712
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: the switch the whole bed, So that's off the table.

713
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: Everyone has to stay on the bed. So it's a

714
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: closed set. We've got Jeff Beans with a monitor in

715
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: the room with us, and just like the camera guy

716
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: and the focus puller, that's it, and me and these

717
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: two guys, I'm topless. Here's what would happen. They would

718
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: both start on the bed. Matthew's off camera, but his

719
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: hand is on John's back like ready to tap in.

720
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: Done my body, Oh my god. Then John would lean

721
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: against the wall like a child who's traumatized, puck his

722
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: knees into his chest like avert his eyes, and me

723
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: and Googler like finished faking sex through an orgasm. It

724
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: is the craziest. I was, like, I've done sex scenes

725
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: with people before, but never in front of my other

726
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: love interest like simultaneously. And Jeff is in the room

727
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: queuing everything because it's all timed off the caather, so

728
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a close set with nobody around. Great,

729
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: everyone's comfortable and cool, and Jeff's they're going John down

730
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: Matthew in Finish Like it was like it was just

731
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: the wet down in Finished Down and finished Classic Down

732
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: in Finish Classics. So I'm brought to pivot to this movie.

733
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm proud that all the nudity this movie is non

734
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: sexual nudity, which I'm very into. I want to talk

735
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: about this before we ask the question bringing this up

736
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: like just being a celebration. I really really loved how

737
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: nudity in the so um. Not to give away too much,

738
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: but it is through this nudism theme and sort of

739
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: like character trait in this person who But it's so delicately,

740
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: like the crumbs are left so nicely for the audience,

741
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: like you hear it once in the beginning, and then

742
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: it just all kind of organically beautifully unfolds and it

743
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: just ends in such a nice, earned way. And I

744
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: didn't realize that this was part of your own personal

745
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: journey that like you kind of have this engagement with

746
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: I guess nudity or maybe even nudism as a thing.

747
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say? Yeah? I mean more nudity

748
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: and not nudism. I've really never been to a place.

749
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: It's not because I've been talking a lot about my

750
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: my college like pension for nudity. But it wasn't like

751
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: I was like going to class naked and just like

752
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: make it all the naked guy, which we did have

753
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: the naked guy who was like at every school function

754
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: in tennis shoes in a necklace. So the origin story

755
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: is that I went to cal Arts for college and

756
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: while I was there, um, clothing was optional everywhere but

757
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: the cafeteria. That was the policy. And actually I was

758
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: really respectful because I want also, it's a great school.

759
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: I got education, and I always want to be like

760
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that way now. This was

761
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: like twenty years ago. Um, but I was doing these

762
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: interviews and the other day in the middle of some junket,

763
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: the like sound guy was like, I actually know someone

764
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: who teaches it right now, and it's the that's still

765
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: the policy. Um. I love that because it was always

766
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: just about it's an art school. Okay, so they have

767
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: every dance, fine art, painting, graphic design, film music, all

768
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: that stuff. So like it was more about I think

769
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: letting the students just have full free them of expression. Yeah,

770
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: and it was not uncommon to see somebody doing some

771
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: art installation on your walk across the campus where they're

772
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: naked and they're painting their body and chocolate or something

773
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: like that. And there were big parties, like the Halloween

774
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: Party was a big deal at cal Arts. Even my

775
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: freshman year that had a springtime party called the Erotic

776
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: Ball that then got canceled for being too risks, and

777
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: that was a lot of people going in. You would

778
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: just wear pasties and underwear and like boots, you know

779
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, and I would streak from time

780
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: to time and my friends laugh, and I like to streak.

781
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: And I just liked the whole culture of that openness

782
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: and kind of like my character in the movie, I

783
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: feel like I had this journey with nudism and in

784
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: my own comfortability with nudity. Like when I first started

785
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: acting on camera in this industry, I was got really

786
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: afraid of doing nudity on camera, and I'm glad. I

787
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: sort of was like, I'm open to doing it, but

788
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: it has to be the righting. So like early on

789
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: in my career, when I was doing like the horror movies,

790
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, I was like, no, I'm not

791
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: going to pop into that show and just be like

792
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: the topless girl that had two lines on that HBO

793
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: show or whatever. Yeah, Betty talks about that concept in

794
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: her book too, and I think that's so interesting, like

795
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: through an actress's perspective, like like being able to finally

796
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: even know the difference between like what feels like what's

797
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: being commodified and what feel feels like freedom and what

798
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: feels like your choice and what feels like their choice.

799
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: You know, totally yes, and you have to think about

800
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: Ike feel like I'm making myself sounds so old. But

801
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: like in the time that I was at cal Arts

802
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: even to then working on community, Uh, we witnessed like

803
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: the birth of Twitter and things like that, like that

804
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: didn't even exist like when I was in college from

805
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: two thousand one to two thousand five, Like people had

806
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: flip phones. People were not so Like even the nudity

807
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: at cal Arts was it was protected it. It's just

808
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: for us. No One's gonna pull out their phone and

809
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: film me. I mean I did probably take some I

810
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: don't know photos exist from like the photography, but uh,

811
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: which is the thing. I feel like, actually those probably

812
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: would have surfaced by now if they existed. Um, But

813
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: like I think there was this knee jerk reaction to

814
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: the internet right of me being like, oh wait, like

815
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, I knew a friend of mine who did

816
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: nudity in a movie, and now the screen grab from

817
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: that was in an issue of Playboy, and they're allowed

818
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: to do that legally because it's not your property now

819
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: that it's in that movie. Like all that stuff really

820
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: scared me. And I also think it was also a

821
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: time in my life where I was hating my body,

822
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: Like I do think that was part of it too.

823
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: I was protecting myself by being like, I don't want

824
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: to do nudity for the wrong thing, because I also

825
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: just felt unattracted. You know, there's nothing like uh, starting

826
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: a career on camera to like make you hate yourself

827
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: and the way you look. Don't get it started breakdown

828
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: every time I see everything for the first time complete men.

829
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: So I had to really wag through that for years

830
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: and kind of felt, yeah, really protected and really like

831
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to do some nudity in something and

832
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: people just don't even have to watch the thing, like

833
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: they can just google it whatever, Like I'm not doing

834
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: it for those people. It's about the arts, blah blah blah.

835
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: So then cut to Glow and when I read the

836
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: pilot for Glow to audition for that show, they had

837
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: a big all caps announcement that was like, must be

838
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: comfortable doing nudity for all of the women on the show. Everybody.

839
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: It was like, which I appreciated, very upfront about it

840
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: from the beginning, like this is a non negotiable for

841
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: this show. And by like my you know, auditioned maybe

842
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: four times for that part, and by like after maybe

843
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: the first two auditions, as I was starting to really

844
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: test for the role, is when that conversation came in

845
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: with my whole team kind of calling me to be like, hey,

846
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: this is the point where they really want to make

847
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: sure that you know that you are gonna have to

848
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: get Nick on the show, and they want you to

849
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: know that you're comfortable with because I don't want to

850
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: do more auditions if you're not okay with it. And

851
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: I asked if I could get on the phone with

852
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: Liz and Carly are our showrunners, and talk to them

853
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: about it. They were like absolutely yeah, and I'm more

854
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: just honestly, I read the pilot it was so fucking

855
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: good and I got it and I felt like it

856
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: all made sense. And I already really didn't have a

857
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: problem with the nudity, but it was so nice and

858
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: refreshing to talk to them and have them say, look,

859
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: this is a show about women's bodies in every way

860
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: that we can explore that, and we just want the

861
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: freedom to show women changing in the locker room and

862
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: to show women having sex and everything in between and

863
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: not shy away from it. And we're never going to

864
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: exploit you. We're never going to do it in a

865
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: way that is male, gay zy or anything like that.

866
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: And then I feel like working on Glow kind of reconnected.

867
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: Like as soon as I did that first naked sex

868
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: scene in that first episode, I was like, oh, yeah,

869
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: I love being naked, love my body. That's empowering. It

870
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: really was. And by the season three there's a scene

871
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: where it's me and Betty and you know, we're in

872
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and I have this scene where I like

873
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: put on a show girl headdress and take my top

874
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: off and do this like toplet dance to make Betty laugh.

875
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: And I actually watched that episode with my mom, and

876
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: my mom was like that's my alley, Like, that's you,

877
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: that's your energy. Like it was such a relief to

878
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, is my natural energy. So I feel

879
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: like that journey is in this movie. Like and by

880
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: the way, already this morning on Twitter, I saw someone

881
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: turning the topless just into a meme a jif. I mean.

882
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: That's the weird part about the streamers of it all,

883
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: too though, is people like they can just like scroll

884
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: on the bottom with scary movies. I do this sometimes,

885
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: like I'll just scroll through the whole thing to see

886
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: when something scary is going to happen or like whatever.

887
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: But people can treat streamers that have nudity like that,

888
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, in that weird way, which is another weird

889
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: thing about now versus then, Right, but in a way

890
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: I think. And I also even had these conversations with

891
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: Jeff Beina because I did you know some new scenes

892
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: in Horror Girl and he was like, I don't know.

893
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: I sort of he sort of led me back to

894
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: even being like, well, don't give those people the power

895
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: to change fundamentally who you are and how you feel

896
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: about this kind of thing, Like none of us can

897
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: control what I can. Creepy people on the internet doing

898
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 1: or saying and I don't even want to think about

899
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: it or tap into it at all. I got to

900
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: just live, like by choosing, I guess to be in

901
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: this industry in any way we part of us goes.

902
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to be okay with people saying

903
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: whatever the funk they want, and I'll go about my

904
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: business in a way that's true to me and that's

905
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: the best I can do. And they'll just try not

906
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: to look at any of that stuff ever and live

907
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: my life and everything's fine. Yeah, right, but thank God

908
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: for glow. I mean, there's nothing like you being comfortable

909
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: with being naked around other women in a very protected

910
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: environment and doing it, you know, maybe not over and

911
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: over again, but like feeling safe for that long is

912
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: enough to deprogram all of that ship in your head

913
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: from before. And that's that's amazing, Like I I hope

914
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 1: I wish that for everybody. Yeah, totally. It was very

915
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: safe feeling. And then you get to the point where

916
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: like now now it's like you were saying, you're kind

917
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: of like assembling your own people, so you're creating your

918
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: own healthy atmosphere, and that's like, you know, that's that's

919
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: something that you've obviously earned in your career, and that's

920
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: like a really kind of cool place to be able

921
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: to imagine. That's just it's so the difference between being

922
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: on a set we're even one person toxic and I'm

923
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: certain you've been there, Okay, Like that's the cool thing

924
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: about I would imagine, like being the writer, producer and

925
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: know Dave being the director, is that you guys are

926
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: obviously on the same page, not only in your life,

927
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: but now you can be professionally too, and that's just

928
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: a gift to everything totally. Well, that's what I was

929
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: gonna say. I mean, have many thoughts on that, but

930
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: first of all, on something like this when the director

931
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: is my husband too, it's like I know that I

932
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: am safe is the right word I think and Dave.

933
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: I felt this way on the rental, which I have

934
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: had no nudity or sex scenes or anything in that.

935
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: But like working with Dave, the set is such a

936
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: safe space for actors because he's an actor. Yes, he

937
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: understands the actor's psyche. He wants everyone to feel comfortable

938
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: and collaborated with, and everyone has a voice, and he's

939
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: going to check in with everybody to make sure that

940
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: they feel good. And then also he has amazing taste,

941
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: Like he makes really beautiful things. He's never going to

942
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: leave something in that feels false or is un flattering

943
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: to a person's performance or anything like that. It's the

944
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: beautiful thing of working with Dave is like the safety

945
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: I feel just knowing that the product itself is going

946
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: to be amazing because I know what a strong vision

947
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: he has for everything. But also in spirit, Dave and

948
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: I are the same, which is we love being on

949
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: a set. We wanted to all be positive and fun

950
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: and like everyone's having a great time and feel supported

951
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: and seen and all that ye stuff. So it's great.

952
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: I will say whenever I'm on a set with there's

953
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: something about having the one villain on a set that

954
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: that the only silver lining to that is it unites

955
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: everybody else. Yes, you have the common enemy. And I

956
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: don't know, do you feel this way? Like I also

957
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: feel like my behavior gets better when you watch someone

958
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: just being like such a selfish jerk, right that you

959
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: have a sense of that, Like you maybe you come

960
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: in and you're like, oh my god, I hate what

961
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: they're trying to put me in today, and then you

962
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: watch someone have like a full toxic meltdown about some

963
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: costume and you go like, I'm fine with it. I don't.

964
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: It's actually not that we have to ask you the question,

965
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: because the question is the centerpiece of the show. We

966
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: must know and the readers have to read about this.

967
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: What was the culture that made you say culture was

968
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: for you? Okay? Oh my god. Guys gone around around

969
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: and around in circles on this one, because I just

970
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: feel like the answer for me could go a million directions.

971
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: There were so many feeling that yes, but you know

972
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: you referenced John Hughes earlier, and I'm going to actually say,

973
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: trying to think of like the earliest spark of things,

974
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it was watching Ferris Bueler's Day

975
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: Off on HBO. Like I'm not that Like I was

976
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: probably like three years old when Ferris Bueler came out.

977
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: It's not like I was like seeing it in the

978
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: theater or anything like that. Like HBO in the late

979
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: eighties early nineties is my jam. I would just come

980
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: home from school and put cable on. We had sucking

981
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: HBO watch everything. But like my earliest memories of even

982
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: wanting to be a performer, like as a kid, I

983
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: was such a ham and always kind of like maybe

984
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: like ceping on little performances for my parents and our

985
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: neighbors and things like that. And I vividly remember me

986
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: and my sister and our couple little friends would re

987
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: enact this scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off where the

988
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: principal gets to the house and the sister gets to

989
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: the house at the same time, and they both think

990
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: that they've caught Ferris Bueller, but neither of them does,

991
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: and the scene goes like this. They're they're on either

992
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: side of the kitchen door, and they huge each other

993
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: and one of them goes Fairest and the other one

994
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: goes Bueller, and then one jumps out and goes and

995
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: the other one jumps out and goes yeah, and then

996
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: she goes it kicks him in the face utes times

997
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: it's like she goes running upstairs. We would replay like

998
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: turns playing either role, acting it out, showing it in

999
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: front of our parents, and then I feel like we

1000
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: spun that off into doing SNL style sketches for our parents.

1001
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: Like that was just it was just part of like, Oh,

1002
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: I love performing. I'm gonna say this exactly the way

1003
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: she said it. We're going to react it, you know,

1004
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: like the Cadence the same I'm gonna kick my leg

1005
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: at the same. It was like the way that people

1006
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: like dub smash stuff now, but we didn't have any

1007
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: of that technology. We would just have to rewind and

1008
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: like play the video again. I mean on HBO we

1009
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: couldn't rewind. So I guess that's my answer for now.

1010
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: But runners up include Yes, let's hear them. Runners up

1011
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: include early seasons of the Real World on MTV. Watched

1012
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: the first couple of seasons that we're probably so boring

1013
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: docu drama. Yeah, oh my god, people in a bath

1014
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: talk about being bisexual for an hour, Like you know,

1015
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: it was just like it was truly just people sitting

1016
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: around talking, but loved it. Also possibly controversial, The Rose

1017
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: o'donald Show. Not controversial. Major friend and I we used

1018
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: to my best friend from elementary school. We would like

1019
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: write letters into the Rosy o'donald Show. And I feel

1020
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: like her sort of like fake obsession with Tom Cruise,

1021
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: Like we were too little to know that there was

1022
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: like a closeted thing happening and we were just like

1023
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: she loves Tom Cruise. We love Tom cruise like it

1024
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: was the era of Cutie Patty. It was of the

1025
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: couch balls, it was John mcdee, it was it was

1026
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: big k A thing about Rosie show, which I loved,

1027
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 1: was it kind of was it felt like a late

1028
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: night show in the day. Yeah. She was for real

1029
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: funny and she like was she was like relaxed and

1030
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: like really, I mean I'm speaking to the audience, but

1031
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: like still kind of doing her thing, you know, I

1032
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: mean I do still kind of love Rosie O'donnald. She's

1033
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: recently been on the l words. She was in the

1034
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: league of their own. She's very she's great. Oh god,

1035
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: and then I just had one other one but now

1036
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: I forgot it. No, no, no, that's what I meant. Yes,

1037
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, of course no, no, of course she's in

1038
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: the original, but like she's in the rebo and she's

1039
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: like it's a perfect little way that they like, you know,

1040
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: cameo her, but they give her like a really meaty part.

1041
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 1: I love that. Also in the original she's like, oh

1042
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: she's so good, and Rosie is so talented. I mean

1043
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: that's the thing too, is like people forget about like

1044
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: her as like a Broadway like musical theater actress, like that,

1045
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: that obsession that she had with musical theater and with

1046
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: truly like what was happening in New York. Like she

1047
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: truly would be like, Okay, here is an episode of

1048
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: my show where like the guest is I don't know,

1049
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: Julianna Margarie's for someone huge on TV at the time,

1050
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: and the performance at the end is going to be

1051
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: like subtster. Literally, here's Sutton Foster, here's Lashawn's, here's like

1052
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: something that's happening at La Mama. She would pull something

1053
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: from like off off Broadway experimental stuff, and she'd have

1054
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: people do a song because she jen you and Lee

1055
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: was curating like a show that she liked, and it

1056
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: was like in that way she had to help so

1057
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: much theater and there's no one doing that now. I mean,

1058
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: you know what, That's what I like about Seth Meyers.

1059
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: He had tight technique on his show. Actually the night

1060
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: I was on and I thought that was so cool,

1061
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: because yeah, it was and I got to do a

1062
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: bit with them, but it's like that was really cool

1063
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: because people don't really shine a light on theater that

1064
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: much anymore, like on those big performs, don't oh my god.

1065
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: Wait sidebar about Daytime TV will make this the quickest.

1066
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: But Matt, I know that you were on Kelly Clarkson

1067
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: recently and you guys did not sing together, and you

1068
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: were like, I don't want to do that my first time.

1069
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: And I was just on Kelly Clarkson for like, she

1070
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: is the best, and it's so fun to do interviews

1071
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: with her because she's like, you don't even feel like

1072
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: you're on a talk show. She's actually just genuinely talking

1073
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: to you. Like I feel like I didn't tell any

1074
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: of my stories iver heard. I mean I did, but

1075
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: like you just ended up talking anyway. So the second

1076
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: guest on my episode was Michael Bolton, and he is

1077
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: a huge fan of hers, and they sang together, and

1078
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sitting there on the couch and I

1079
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: don't know if they kept this in the episode or

1080
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: cut it, but I thought about you. I had talked

1081
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: to her about how I used to have like this

1082
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: cover band and I used to sing. So she's singing

1083
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: how am I supposed to live without you? With Michael

1084
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: and organizing and belting, and they get to the final

1085
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: notes of the chorus, how am I supposed to carry on?

1086
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: And I come in, I lean in on the couch

1087
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 1: and just go When no that, Michael Bolton straight turned

1088
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: to me like what the fuck? But tell was like

1089
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: you choice, Oh thank you guys. But I thought I

1090
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: would never in a million years. Like earlier on the couch,

1091
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: we were talking about this cover band and she was like,

1092
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: so you sing, and I was like, we don't ask

1093
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: me this thing right now. But then I sat there

1094
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: being like what I'm not gonna not gonna take the

1095
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: chance to jump in on one line with Michael Bolton

1096
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: and Kelly Clarkson. Are you that is? I mean, like

1097
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: the thing like she had Pink on the other day

1098
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: and her and Pink like sat and bowen. Did you

1099
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: see this? You would have gagged because she loves Pink

1100
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: and Kelly and Pink are like both like you know,

1101
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: kind of stood the test of time pop stars. But

1102
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: from like back, like I was thinking the other day,

1103
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: like Pink has been around. Remember the song you make

1104
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: Me Sick? I won't you? And remember that song? And

1105
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: did you go looking pizza? Oh my god. But like

1106
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: it's like these are old and I was watching these

1107
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: two and they were singing Pinks and they were singing

1108
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: it together and I was like, oh god, like and

1109
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: just just hear how good they are, and you could

1110
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: tell they like I didn't really rehearse, they just intuitively no,

1111
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: Like Kelly is just like I'm just gonna jump on

1112
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: the harmony line and they look each other in the

1113
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: eyes and they just know what to do, what riffs

1114
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: to do, and it's just like, these are two monsters

1115
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: of voting pro like that's something I could never I

1116
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: could learn a harmony and hit it like with lots

1117
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: of practice. I cannot just hear a harmony and jump

1118
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: in and felt it. That's pretty incredible. I have the

1119
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: ear I can't like execute all the time. But anyone

1120
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: that's not true. And he's also like a counter tenor

1121
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: Bowen has like it comes up through his feet the

1122
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: pelvic floor of doom. I call him. Oh no, no, no, no,

1123
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: in many ways, Alison, do you remember what vinyls she

1124
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: gave you, what Vinyl Kelly Clarkson gave you. Yes, she

1125
01:01:53,720 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: gave me the Black Keys? Oh damn you know Bruce Springsteen,

1126
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: which okay, no, no, no, it's just like I don't

1127
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: dislike Bruce Springsteen, like how could you right? Same? No, No,

1128
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: Shade to the Black Key or Kelly, Oh my god,

1129
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: it's definitely not. But I was like, huh, but that

1130
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: means she thinks cool. She thinks yes, because like black

1131
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: Keys is such like as it's like a swing, but

1132
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: you would only take that swing on like this is

1133
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: a gift for a cool person, you know, a vinyl

1134
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: no matter what, is actually a really chic gift. I

1135
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: think it's such a cool thing to be in the back.

1136
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: I really can't go wrong because it could be decorative,

1137
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: it could be something that you actually play and then

1138
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: like if an artist has made a vinyl of their album,

1139
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: it's probably like it's got to be good, like a

1140
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: classic thing. We have a record player, and it's nice

1141
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: to add something to the catalog. Might not have thought that.

1142
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: We just have that now and maybe you'll pop it

1143
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: on and be like and also listening to something on vinyl,

1144
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: not as much, but kind of like when you go

1145
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: to see someone in concert, like you're always gonna love it.

1146
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's not the same. It's a ritual,

1147
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 1: but it's it's ritualistic like you're going through the steps. Yeah, yeah,

1148
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: my friend came over, Like I guess it was like

1149
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: six seven months ago, and um, he broke my He

1150
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: didn't break it, but like I can't get that. You know,

1151
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: it's a lot of there's a lot of set up

1152
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: with the vinyls the thing, and it's like it's kind

1153
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: of precarious. But I'm going to somehow restore that and

1154
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: get back to playing Casey Musgrave's Golden Hour and no time.

1155
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: My bummer about vinyl is like that, it's so short,

1156
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: like we're used to play friends, especially when you kind

1157
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: of have someone over to fuck, like low key, like

1158
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: you put the vinyl on and you feel chic and

1159
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah, the records on and then like

1160
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of the throws and like it

1161
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: stopped to rim and then get like full silence and

1162
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: you're like to hear this. Let me see that. I

1163
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: don't want to hear this. He wants to see rim

1164
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:16,479
Speaker 1: near the rim? No, No, not eating asshole. You need

1165
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: a soundtrack to it. People not say eating asshole? Do

1166
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: people not say that? You say? Nobody says the whole.

1167
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: But I love that you in there. I love that

1168
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: you throw a hole in there. I learned a lot

1169
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: from this podcast. You guys want me what bussy we did,

1170
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: and I recently passed that info on to date. I

1171
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: actually think you did it. I don't think so, honey.

1172
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: I was like, you don't think so, I know, I don't.

1173
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't like saying it. Like sometimes during sex people

1174
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: will say like like people will talk about bussy and

1175
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm sorry, I can't look bussy and

1176
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: I haven't changed. I still can't and I won't. I

1177
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: think that's great. You should stay true to you. Yeah,

1178
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 1: I know yourself. Nobody's trying to change you. Only when

1179
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: it's in Merriam Webster. Will you accept it in the

1180
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: throes of passion? I think? Am I speaking for both

1181
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: of us when I say we have a crush on

1182
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:21,959
Speaker 1: your husband? I feel, of course I did have a crush.

1183
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: I have actually had a crush on Dave Franco for years.

1184
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: He was in a sitcom Like the first thing he ever, ever, ever, ever,

1185
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: ever did. He was in a sitcom where he played

1186
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: like the assistant do not disturb, Do not disturb. Wow,

1187
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: my husband's credits were you were you Dave Franco fan

1188
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: prior to husband, Oh my god, outing from the bottom.

1189
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: He just walked in the door. As I said that

1190
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: it goes, why are you guys talking about do Not Disturb?

1191
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: Because come give a cameo. Way, No, he's not able

1192
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: to hear. He can't hear us. He can't hear us.

1193
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: But tell him that I reviewed Do Not Disturb for

1194
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: the n YU newspaper. I think it was my freshman year,

1195
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 1: and I said the highlight was CUTEI Dave Franco back

1196
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: in the day when he was a twin here he

1197
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: comes reviewed do Not Disturb newspaper be able to do

1198
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: them in my ear, and he said the highlight of

1199
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: do Not Disturb. We had a uh, I mean right there,

1200
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: this is this is a great picture, readers. Very kind

1201
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: of you to say that about Do Not Disturb. That

1202
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: was a show where we shot seven episodes. He got

1203
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: canceled after three, so imagine how popular it was. Well,

1204
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm one of the dozens that watched it. That's very

1205
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: very We love the movie, Dave, so good, thank you,

1206
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm sure she told you very a few

1207
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: to believe that we loved Fire Island so so much.

1208
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: I can't believe you guys watched the person. I mean,

1209
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: we adore that movie. We adore rom Comes, but like

1210
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: truly on this tour, Like when we've been talking about

1211
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: the recent ones that we love. It's it comes up

1212
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: in every single interview both of you. I mean, you

1213
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: guys subverted so many things about wrong comes in this

1214
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: and such a beautiful I mean the turn in the movie.

1215
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: We're not gonna spoil it, but there's a turn with

1216
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: j Allison and Allison in this room. Yeah, it's so

1217
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: beautifully executed, so well shot, I mean, great, job's truly

1218
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: coming from you, guys. That's so so sweet, crushed it.

1219
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you guys be um much loved you.

1220
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm such huge fans of both you. Alison is a

1221
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: super super fan of your podcast, and she's been she's

1222
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: been buzzingly enough. Oh my god, angel, both of you.

1223
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: It's giving star energy. It's giving really, I mean. And

1224
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: also the picture of the two of you is really

1225
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: I thought the wedding photos are photos are good. I

1226
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: don't even know if we printed any of ourselves. I

1227
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: actually like framed a bunch for my family for Christmas,

1228
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: and when I go to their houses, I'm always like,

1229
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: why didn't I do one of those for me? That

1230
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: is I know, it's it's kind of one of the

1231
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: perks right of like having a hot husband, being hot yourself.

1232
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: It's like we get to take a sheepe wedding photo,

1233
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: so why you hire the Yeah? Right, it's true. I

1234
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: just did here. Wait, look there's a photo right here.

1235
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: I just had a party for my and it was

1236
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: like having a wedding pretty much where I was like,

1237
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: I'm getting a photographer, We're getting a photo booth. Look

1238
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: at these. That's why you gotta get a photo boo.

1239
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: That's actually a rule of culture. It's truly culture number sixty.

1240
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: You had a party. I couldn't agree more. It's something

1241
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: fun and then everybody gets a fun souvenir. Yeah, And

1242
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: it's also it's community building to sort of like gather

1243
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: around the photo booth and be like, okay, what are

1244
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: we doing now? Sometimes would be using props. Are we

1245
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: serious or are we smiling? Some of my favorite pictures

1246
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: from the I love that for You Premier party. I

1247
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: have really good shots of like me and Aiden Andemy

1248
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: and put On, like me and Vanessa like that we're

1249
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: in the photo booths and why do I have that?

1250
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: Because there was a photo of exactly I feel like, Also,

1251
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: what's fun is it when you host a party. Then

1252
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: afterwards you get the link to see everybody's photo booths

1253
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: pictures from the night. You have to see like all

1254
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: your friends and how drunk they were, like a core. Yeah,

1255
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: I just love getting pictures of my friends and their

1256
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: husbands who are like grabbing their ass like assholes, the

1257
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: whole assholes. Finger up the asshole at my party, come on,

1258
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: come on. Just because Trudy Campbell is such an icon,

1259
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: I have to ask, like, do you have any like

1260
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: favorite memories from mad Men, which is the greatest television

1261
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 1: shop all time? Thank you? Um well, you know, yeah,

1262
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: so many good memories. I mean that was really my

1263
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: first sort of big job on TV that was concurrent

1264
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: with Community airing wise, right, yes, but mad Men started earlier,

1265
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: probably two years earlier. I remember that was like that

1266
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: was like a big moment, like when you were on both.

1267
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: It was like, yes, which is rare because also, you know,

1268
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: all of the networks gets so weird about you being

1269
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: on other shows, so there are a lot of rules.

1270
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: You know, I was recurring on I had been recurring

1271
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: for two seasons on mad Men, and I was doing

1272
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: like six out of twelve episodes, and then I did

1273
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: the Community pilot kind of without telling anybody, and then

1274
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: people kind of flipped out from mad Men, and I

1275
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: think they were like, well, if she can't, because they

1276
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: were like, normally the networks would only let you do

1277
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: three episodes of recurring on a show or a different network,

1278
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: and the mad Men team kind of flipped out and

1279
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: they were like, if we can't get a six episode guaranteed,

1280
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: then you're never going to be on mad Men again.

1281
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: And I had this moment of like, what have I done? Then? Well,

1282
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: but then what ended up happening is Matt Weiner, the creator,

1283
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: like wrote letters and I believe he did this honestly

1284
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: every season to our producers on Community, like and to

1285
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: NBC at large, being like, here are all the NBC

1286
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: people who have guests start on other shows more than

1287
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: three times John Hamm on thirty Rock, And so it

1288
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 1: was I mean, that was in the family NBC, but

1289
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: it was it was sort of like, look at all

1290
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: the people from mad Men who have guests start on

1291
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: NBC stuff. That's John Hamm on thirty Rock did more

1292
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: than that episode, and anyway, they always got me out

1293
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: to do it, So that was like really exciting, but

1294
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: I realized I didn't answer your question. That thing I

1295
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: remember most when I think of the show is honestly

1296
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: the cost of course, I was assuming that for some

1297
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 1: reason because it is, oh my god, the fittings. Janie

1298
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: Bryant was the costume designer for mad Men, and she

1299
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: was so fun and it was like the highlight of

1300
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: my time on the show would be my fittings with her.

1301
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: She had such a specific vision always and the Campbell's

1302
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: should have full boards with um like inspiration boards. And

1303
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: we always talked about Campbell blue because the Campbell's campbel

1304
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: we were like a real jewel tone family, so we

1305
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 1: wore a lot of Campbell blue and green truly brought

1306
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: out my eyes and Vincent karthiser's eyes like almost like

1307
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,959
Speaker 1: brother and sister. Yeah, it was kind of perfect casting.

1308
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: I had great hats that were like incredible and so strange.

1309
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: So that's the highlight for me. I just did you

1310
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: did you had really good hats that happens. This hat

1311
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: such a great hat. I was thinking about that hat

1312
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: the other day because I was wearing a hat and was, well,

1313
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: you know what I just realized, Bowen, that we have

1314
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: iconically done, is that we have yet again right before

1315
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: a huge cultural moment recorded the episode before so is

1316
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: predictions for what Rihanna is going to do at the

1317
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Is she going to throw a curveball? Are

1318
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 1: we gonna get we Found Love? Are you doing a

1319
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 1: super Bowl thing? You are? Dave and I are just

1320
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 1: going to watch from here. We like to watch football

1321
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: together so that Dave can explain to me everything that's

1322
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: going on and why I should care about it, and

1323
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: you can sort of explain Rihanna to him exactly. He's

1324
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: not familiar. This is what I wrote down for for

1325
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: our little pool that we have in our friend group.

1326
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: We have a pool for what she's going to do

1327
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: with the super Bowl. I'm probably dead wrong. I wrote

1328
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: down and no order umbrella. Diamonds needed me because I

1329
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: was like, I was looking through Auntie and I was like,

1330
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: is she going to do work? Maybe? I don't think

1331
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: she's gonna have Drake there. I think that would be

1332
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: a little loaded. Um. So that's that's my that's my

1333
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: anti thing. I don't think I'm right on that. But

1334
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: whatever we Found Love I did stay from unapologetic. You

1335
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: think she's going to give a ballad? I think she's,

1336
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: oh sorry, Diamonds is from an apolitics and I guess

1337
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: lift me up. I don't know, but this is exciting,

1338
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: Like there's no way to be sure. You don't think

1339
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Oh no, no, what's my name? I

1340
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 1: don't think she likes that song? Really? Who? I think

1341
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: the songs with Drake features on them are a little

1342
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: they feel what about a rude boy? I don't think,

1343
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 1: but hopefully it's some combination of that. But yes, we

1344
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: have iconically done that episode before the super Bowl, so

1345
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: that is why it was not discussed today. Who do

1346
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: you think she's gonna bring out? If no Drake? Do

1347
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: you know what I think would only happen at the

1348
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: super Bowl? Like, obviously she can't bring Kanye out, but

1349
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: if Paul McCartney came out for four or five seconds,

1350
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: I think that could happen. If they're ever going to

1351
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: do that song live, it would be at the super Bowl,

1352
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: right yeah? Wow? But then that makes everyone nervous that

1353
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: Kanye is going to come out, you know what I mean?

1354
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna be honest, edge, we don't want

1355
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: people on edge, people on edge. I'll never forget how

1356
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: nervous I was when Lady Gaga jumped and caught that ball.

1357
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: I was like, do not drop that ball on. That

1358
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: was bravery in boldness right there to say I'm my

1359
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: breath away, my breath away. It was shocking off. Yeah,

1360
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: she was giving shocking off in that moment. I was

1361
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 1: very impressed and every day of her life, to be honest,

1362
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: true Bowen and I dream is that she flies a

1363
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: Fighter jet as she's singing holding my hand at the

1364
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: oscar um. She might, she might do it. We're just

1365
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: gonna cut away, like we're like, why isn't Gaga. They're

1366
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: in person and then they're going to cut away. She's

1367
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: thousands of feet in the air. She and Tom Cruise

1368
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: fall out of a plane while she's singing it. She's

1369
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: in his arms. Oh my god. She pulls the cord

1370
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: as she serenades him. They fall, They land on a motorcycle.

1371
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: She unclipped the parachute and they drive off into the

1372
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: sunsets being written. The performance is being written, and Dave's

1373
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: going to direct. Dave's directing, I'm going to produce this

1374
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,839
Speaker 1: for the Oscars. There was that year that Whoopie Goldberg

1375
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: when she hosted, came down from the ceiling as the

1376
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: team from rouge and she said, I am the sexy beast.

1377
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: It was your sexy beast came out. Oh my god,

1378
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: I love sexy beast. And any time Dave and I

1379
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: are laying by a pool, I always try to do

1380
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: the opening like psy brolling that's good, Oh my god

1381
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: is my favorite thing that in the train spotting every

1382
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 1: so often. I also like to without a like choose life,

1383
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: choose a job, chose Cereal, choose cartoons Sunday morning. Do

1384
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: you consider yourself an accent queen? Because it was queen

1385
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: and glow to thank you. I used to be much

1386
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: better at doing accents, like right out at theater school

1387
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: is really honed in on my voice work posture. Yeah,

1388
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: but I do low key love to do impressions, and

1389
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: I actually think I'm quite good at it. But like

1390
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: my favorite person on Bachelor in Paradise or stuff like that,

1391
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 1: Like for my friends, I will do impressions of every

1392
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: character on Bachelor in Paradise and we we have fun

1393
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, to be fair, to be fat, that's

1394
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: Love Island. Sorry, wrong reference. I was like, I was

1395
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: just silent, like you were giving me your character in

1396
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: the movie, like silently staring to get me to say more.

1397
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: It was because the same as when I got my

1398
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: Black Keys on vinyl, and I was like, sure, sure,

1399
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey that I did that, but

1400
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: I do think so honey, that it's time for item.

1401
01:17:49,640 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: Thanks honey. So this is order. Do you have to

1402
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: explain it to me? But if you like to explain it.

1403
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: Every episode we we tell everyone again and again it's

1404
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: our sixty second segment that we do on this podcast.

1405
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: And um, I have something as of yesterday. Actually bo

1406
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: really okay, So this is a fresh one, barely ripened.

1407
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey. As

1408
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: time starts now, I don't think so honey when a

1409
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: mini golf course is doing the most. When a mini

1410
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: golf course is like really, it's like it's like impossible

1411
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: and you can't even get par You're like, how are

1412
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: you going to get a part two on that where

1413
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: you have to jump over a river and getting the

1414
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: lady got playing and fly over the oscars? It's crazy?

1415
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: And then we want to have stop breakfast today, which

1416
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: I appreciated the production value. I do think so honey.

1417
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: When there's sort of a native of red Hook in

1418
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: the video sort of doing I R R. Maybe it

1419
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: was pirate themes like sometimes these holes, to say the

1420
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: word holes again, are really too tough. And I also

1421
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: don't think, honey, maybe mini golf in general as an adult,

1422
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: because you sort of get the vibe that like people

1423
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: aren't can't really get on the same page about how

1424
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: seriously we're taking it right. Sometimes people are like flopping

1425
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: a little bit in minigolf and they'll just pick the

1426
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: ball up and be like whatever. And I'm like, well,

1427
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: now what am I writting down on the card? And

1428
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, that I'm the scorekeeper, you

1429
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We were both score keeping. We

1430
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: were on different cards, but sometimes we're on different cards.

1431
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes some honey that I left me on the same

1432
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: card as you, But I don't think so, honey. And

1433
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: that's one man. I did feel it was unfair that

1434
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: we were on different cards and it was supposed to

1435
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: be my sister. We were drunk. Why are we on

1436
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: different We were drunk, and like why are we writing

1437
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: down numbers and keeping track? Anyway, Alison, it was a mess.

1438
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: It was, and I only made it through half. I

1439
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: really I had to go into there if you ever

1440
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: go into the shipwrecked minigolf course in Red Hook, just

1441
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 1: know there's a bathroom there. I sobbed in it for

1442
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: an hour. I agree with you about people not being

1443
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: on the same page of serious gameplay, like as adults.

1444
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: Why you know, I've been to like a game night

1445
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: at a bar with some people, but I'm like a

1446
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: little stone just laughing and having a fun time, and

1447
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: the table I went, it's like, Aliston, get it together, goddamnit. Yeah,

1448
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: I've been known to. I've been known to bomb some

1449
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: real like like pictionary or stuff like that, because I

1450
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: gameplay means we should all be a little stone just

1451
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: having a fun period. I like that. It really is

1452
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: very much so and super into mushrooms these days as well.

1453
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: My mushroom gummies by my yesterday probably part of the reason.

1454
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,520
Speaker 1: But the mushrooms were really popping off yesterday in Red Hook. Yeah,

1455
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:37,879
Speaker 1: the stream's head. Yeah, Okay, that's a good positive development

1456
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: to know that Alison Bree is giving stoner. Oh yeah,

1457
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: I love that. I do think so. Honey, Yet, Bonyang,

1458
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: who's very good at games in trivia, we're actually gonna play.

1459
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 1: We're going playing games today instead of watching the Super Bowl.

1460
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna sort of like not be watching football because

1461
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: we don't have a day Franco to sort of explain

1462
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: it to us totally. So it's just gonna be a

1463
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: bunch of gay men sort of sitting around playing games

1464
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: and then Orihanna on we'll do that and then we'll

1465
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: see where it takes us. But um, bow do you have?

1466
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, I do, I do. It's

1467
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a little signed field. Just to warn you guys,

1468
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be about like and that it's about nothing no,

1469
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: and that it's about air travel. Okay, So I think

1470
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: he's one of our preeminent air travel comedians. What is

1471
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: the deal with plane? That's that's classic. Lauren Michaels is

1472
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: one of our biggest fans of the podcast, and he

1473
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: listens to every episode because he's obsessed with and he

1474
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear knows that I'm great. I'm

1475
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: a great impressionist. Yes, it's happy to like, happy to

1476
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: come on in paradise sketches. Absolutely all right, this is

1477
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: your I don't think so, honey. Your time starts now.

1478
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. People who block the view

1479
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: at baggage claim. Get out of the way. You're blocking

1480
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: the flap. I need to have eyes on the flap

1481
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: at all times. You cannot break my view. God give

1482
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: me the gray, the patients, the coolness to stand far

1483
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: away from the flap, because I, unfortunately am the person

1484
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: who has to stand by the flap, and I wish

1485
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't, but I don't have time. I need to

1486
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: get out of there. But there are some of these people.

1487
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: They must be they must not have a care in

1488
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: the world. If they're standing on the other end of

1489
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: the carousel. I go, why aren't you at the flap.

1490
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 1: There's something wrong with you. But then I go, something's

1491
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: wrong with me because I'm at the flap and I'm

1492
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: in arms every five seconds when some person trundles over

1493
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: and blocks my view and I have to go and

1494
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: intercept there. It's like so it is my super Bowl.

1495
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: Every time I check a bag, I am maneuvering and

1496
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: drawing things on the chalkboard in my mind. I have

1497
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: to say, you wouldn't like me around a carousel because

1498
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm stanning. I'm stanning. I'm at the at the thing

1499
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: where it comes out and standing right up on the

1500
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: thing because I want my bag and I want out

1501
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: of them. I was just gonna say, people can't aunt

1502
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: when people are pressed right up against the thing. Even sorry,

1503
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: that's my bags. Armand excuse me, excuse me, like you're

1504
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: not gonna steps back, give it a little breathing room.

1505
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Until you see your bag. That's

1506
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 1: when you step forward, when you see your bag, When

1507
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: you see your bag. Are you a Delta queen? You

1508
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: know a little bit. There's no wrong answer. You don't

1509
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: have to be adult. I rotate, I rotate Delta. American United,

1510
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: you have an open relationship with Delta. Yeah, I'm kind

1511
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: of like in a trouble with It's a quadruple with

1512
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: United and a Delta. That's very shape. I United sometimes, Yeah,

1513
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: I text United to come over. Yeah. United just getting better.

1514
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: Well that was um, well, I would say, like Delta.

1515
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: What I love about the Delta app is they'll tell

1516
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: you when the bag is coming out those girls and there.

1517
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: It's always right to like, your bag is now arriving.

1518
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: You look up, it's there. It is. Oh my god,

1519
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that. That is a great feature.

1520
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: One of the best features actually rated one of the

1521
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: top features by last culture. Um, we're happy to do it,

1522
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: all right. So wow, Alison Brie, this is your I

1523
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, or do you have one? I

1524
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: have one. I'm ready to go something I feel very

1525
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 1: passionately about. This is exciting. So this is Alison's I

1526
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. The time starts now. Okay, I

1527
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. People who hate cats, well, it's

1528
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: so ten years ago. All right. First of all, if

1529
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: you're fine, I hear you, But like, why do you

1530
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: have to be Like I'm a dog person, not a

1531
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: cat person. It's not one or the other. You don't

1532
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: have to choose a pet like I love all animals. Also,

1533
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: it's because cats have been totally villainized in the media

1534
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: since the little kids. Cats only belong in movies to

1535
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: sad cat ladies and fucking straight up villains. Or cats

1536
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: are the villains themselves, right, like sucking In every movie,

1537
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: cats are terrorizing sweet dogs. Don't get me started on

1538
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 1: Lady in the Tramp. Okay, an American tail. We love fible,

1539
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: but the cats are literally representing Nazis. Like, also, there's

1540
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: a millionies every Christmas. Dogs get a dog's life, A

1541
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 1: dog's purpose, A dog's purpose to starting starting Betty Gilpin,

1542
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: Cats Get Cats the musical with a never before seeing

1543
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: but whole cut. I don't think so, honey, there we go.

1544
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: And that's one that is a huge one. And thank

1545
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: you for shedding light on this thing. And they have

1546
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: been villainized in media without us really realizing. They've been

1547
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: villainized and victimized and they needed a champion and they

1548
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: got one today. Congrats cats. I'm here to report that

1549
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: people who say they don't like cats, they just don't

1550
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: know cat. Our cats. We are cat people through and through.

1551
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: Our cats sleep in the nook of our arms, are us,

1552
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: follow us room to room, I call, he comes over

1553
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: like people think these are dog characteristics and they're wrong. Also, guys,

1554
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: it's I feel like I'm I'm doing like a two

1555
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 1: minute I don't know stuff seeps and this is real.

1556
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: Like any hotels, airbnb s they say pets allowed, and

1557
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: then you call and say, great, we're going to bring

1558
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: our two cats, and they go, oh, sorry, ter use

1559
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: language better better, and we'll give that. Dogs are the

1560
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: most famous pets, but the second most famous pet is

1561
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: a cat. So when you say pets. What are you

1562
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: talking about? Exactly right, Like you're going to exclude that

1563
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: whole half of the equation. Just say dogs allowed or

1564
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: what you think people are bringing their birds? Like you

1565
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: think people are bringing puids. Some freaks out there up

1566
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 1: and allowed, but cat owners are shamed. Oh my god,

1567
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: can we just point out this cat, Gouda in the

1568
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: movie and somebody I us to know the guys was

1569
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: a star. Kuda was a real scene stealer that we

1570
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: loved when the cat would just spike the camera would

1571
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 1: look at camera, the cat would just sort of look

1572
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: in the camera. We literally around it like several times

1573
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: because we had every scene with the cat was huge

1574
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: and I do mean so he's so big because we

1575
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: named his character Harry. The cat is named after our

1576
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: old cat, Harry, who was like Harry, rest in peace.

1577
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Carry But now we have Otis and Max and just

1578
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: to bring it back around. The final thing to say

1579
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 1: on this topic, which I touched on briefly moments ago,

1580
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: but since there's been so much asshole talk, have you

1581
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 1: guys heard of the of the cats butthole cut that

1582
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 1: was never really Yeah, we've heard of this now now

1583
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: do we think that exists? Is that sort of like

1584
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: a thing that what's going on? Bo do you the answer?

1585
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: I think there is it's sitting in a VFX person's

1586
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 1: like hard drive. I think it exists. Somebody's got yeah.

1587
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,799
Speaker 1: I mean the best the best thing about that movie

1588
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 1: is that it's just Judy Dench's hands, human hands, human hands,

1589
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: Judy Dench's human hands, and then just like just her

1590
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 1: human hands, like either they forgot she's got a full

1591
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 1: ring on. It's like, we need to see less of

1592
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: Judy Dench's hands in the movie and much more. Cat

1593
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: c g I botthole. I feel it's also Ian McKellen

1594
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: walking into a scene and and randomly possibly improvising touch

1595
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: wood as he touches a wooden beam that's worth a

1596
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: rewatch and then continues talking and you're like, what, what, why?

1597
01:28:55,200 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: Who you notice these things? And how last movie I

1598
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: saw in theaters before the pandemic Cats, We watched it

1599
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: during the pandemic and Dave and I just got so

1600
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 1: fucked up. We like drink two bottles of wine joy

1601
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: while watching and we were like just cross faded while

1602
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: cats squapped and I will say, just to um co,

1603
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: sign this this notion my cat journey has been to

1604
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: really dislike them in my childhood because I was allergic.

1605
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 1: I am still allergic, but growing up if as you

1606
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: get older, you really do like look at a cat

1607
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: and go, wow, that is a special creature. Here's the thing.

1608
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,560
Speaker 1: It's like people who don't like cats, it's just laziness.

1609
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: Like they're like unconditional. I don't do anything this dog.

1610
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: Just like cats like have actual personality. I mean, I

1611
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: love dogs. I'm not trying to keep throwing shaded dogs,

1612
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: but like cats have real personality, exists, Like let them

1613
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 1: kind of exist and you get to know them and

1614
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: you earn their love and you have an actual relationship

1615
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: with them, and they're like cool and intelligent. They're not

1616
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,679
Speaker 1: like bitchy and the loo. They're just like cool. Yeah,

1617
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 1: they're unbothered. They're unbothered. I love cats now, I really do. Oh,

1618
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: is what can we do to sort of make sure

1619
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 1: you don't have an allergic reaction around a cat? Is

1620
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: there a pill you can take? Is an elected situation,

1621
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: it starts an allergy shot, but it's like it's just

1622
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: like it takes so long. You have to get a

1623
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: shot a month or like don't we just talked to

1624
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 1: something about it. Who did it? And it's like, I'm

1625
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: done being allergic. But they're like, it takes so long

1626
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: because if you miss a shot, you have to like

1627
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: start the shots over. But you have to do them

1628
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 1: every day. Or there might be a pill to like

1629
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 1: an allergy pill. It's take a clariton. It's like, take

1630
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: a clariton, Take a clariton. I just want a hypoallergenic

1631
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: cat with dog like features, some dog like features. It

1632
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: doesn't have to behave like a dog exactly. But I

1633
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 1: have a friend, I have many friends who have cats

1634
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 1: who are dressed puppies in their soul and it's loverly.

1635
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: That's the ideally animal totally, the has like a puppy.

1636
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: What Sbecca producer Becca says, I hear there is a

1637
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: damned spray you can brush onto the animals that helps origins.

1638
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. And then you don't have to take something.

1639
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,759
Speaker 1: You just give them a little keep kind of calm.

1640
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 1: I hope they like that, though if they're uncomfortable with

1641
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: the spray, then I wouldn't want to do it well right,

1642
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: But and the thing about cats is they have no voice.

1643
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: They're actually voiceless, so you'll never know, but I do.

1644
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: Do you think me out is the best or what?

1645
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: When the cat meows? Oh my god, I said, this

1646
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: is not kidding you guys. Our cat Otis meal is

1647
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 1: back when we say is otis and he has a

1648
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: really high pitched and he display, Oh it's good. Is

1649
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: the best thing. It's very cute. I'll take me out

1650
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 1: over a wolf any day. And when I hear wolf,

1651
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: I sometimes frae Verry Jarred. It's like when the zoom

1652
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 1: starts recording and to go this meeting is being incorded.

1653
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: It's like, oh god, it's so scary. The only thing

1654
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 1: scarier than that is wolf. God. Yeah, wolf is like

1655
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: you're yelling me now. Is like. I've never had a

1656
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 1: cat waked me up in my building. I've had every

1657
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: dog in this fucking building wake my ass up when

1658
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be woken up. Oh yeah. We

1659
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: used to have a couple of yappie dogs that lived

1660
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: across the street and the owners I don't know. It

1661
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: was like they were never home and the dogs were

1662
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: just locked in like the frontmost room facing our house,

1663
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: barking all day. But they moved. But they moved well,

1664
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 1: I mean us readers is if you want to see

1665
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 1: an incredible cat and a great film to boot, you

1666
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: can watch Somebody I used to know. It's streaming now

1667
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime and it was co written and stars

1668
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: our guest Allison fucking breathe. Just no. This was such

1669
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 1: an aspirational moment for us, like ever since Betty was

1670
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 1: on the show, and like Seng, your praises like all up, down,

1671
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 1: all around, but like we were so excited to meet

1672
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 1: you and this was such a blast. Have you on. Well,

1673
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: it is so so mutual. I feel like I'm really

1674
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: glad that none of us forced it ahead of time.

1675
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 1: Organically happened exactly when it was supposed to happen, exactly

1676
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: you and David Griffith. And I'm really happy because a

1677
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 1: crazy fan. But next time, I hope you will. I

1678
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 1: will absolutely I'm knowing and I'm running up and jump

1679
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: into my arms. Yes, we go off the cliff. Oh

1680
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: my god, that's how we go. Oh thanks so much

1681
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: for having you guys. This is so fun. I love

1682
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: you both very much. Love this was the best Listen

1683
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: um Bo and Yang. We end every episode with a

1684
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: song we do and I have a song in mind.

1685
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: Go on I'm connected to you from the film Somebody

1686
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: I used to know. Are you ready do Do Do?

1687
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: Semi job? Got a live Do I ever tell you?

1688
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: I saw them perform at Universal Studios, Florida. Third Eye Blind,

1689
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 1: I love them. Third Eye Blind perform at Universal Studios,

1690
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: Florida in front of the Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket and

1691
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: it was a perfect image, just Third Eye Blind singing

1692
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: Doode Do Do with a roller coaster in the back.

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01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers found that doesn't get better than that. Bye Bye,