1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: So a full offseason, a full training camp, and nearly 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: a full preseason, there is still one more game to 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: be played. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calvicy 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: joins me. We check in on this year's draft class. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: All twelve players? Are they ready? 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: Who is? 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: And who may not quite be ready? For Week one? 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: But first, a belated birthday gift for yeld to forro Hole. 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven eighty six, and it 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: starts now. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two? 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Who to Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: dot com slash podcast. 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: so more hurry magic. 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: Whow here's Craigcriolo? 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: So off the top. Paul got asked because apparently it's 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: a question, now, how do you like your steak? Uh? 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: Definitely not raw. I can tell you that right now, 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, come on, there has to be 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: a level of decorum sophistication, so medium to medium. Well, 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: if you're asking Craig, thank you, yes, and I agree 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: with you. 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm right in that range. But as why are we 27 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: talking about steak here on a football podcast, Well, there's 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: a very good reason. Yelda Fralt congratulations to him. Won 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: his birthday on Tuesday turned twenty eight, and then on 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: Wednesday signed a two year contract extension, so he is 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: locked up with the Cardinals through twenty twenty six. But 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 1: the conversation began earlier on Wednesday, Paul, when Jonathan Gannon 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: met the media and asked Yelda on Tuesday how he 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: was going to celebrate his birthday. Well, there was going 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: to be a steak involved, and according to JG it 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: was going to be bloody, rare. Well, we had a 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: chance to hear from Yelda later on and he kind 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: of went a little bit more in depth and mentioned 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: that it was gonna be raw and complete liver king 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: action were his exact words, and that to me, I 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: just I can't go that far with. 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: Two teenagers in the house. I actually got that reference, 43 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: so that was that, you know what, very good. That 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: was my saving grace. That's the only reason I actually 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: google it. Understood that reference and did not need to 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: google it. Ball though I will say off the top. 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: I was a little confused, I thought when he asked her, 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: how I prefer my stake? You were taking my order? Oh, 49 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: I thought this addition to Cardinals covered two came with 50 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: lunch on this flight. But apparently not so all right, 51 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: yeoldafro hold what we call a double ding. It was 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: his birthday and he was rewarded with a new contract. 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: The two are mutually exclusive by the way I think, 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: And so uh yeah, why not absolutely treat yourself. If 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: one isn't a good enough reason, the other certainly is, and. 56 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: It's certainly well deserved. It's something that I have brought up. 57 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was with you earlier, but 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: going into his last year on his current deal, a 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: position that I think we've grown to understand the importance of. 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: But having Yoda Froholts this year and for the next 61 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: two seasons is only going to benefit this offense overall 62 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray specifically. But a year ago, at this time, Paul, 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: going into week one, Yep, we had no idea, and 64 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if many people did about yell to 65 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: roh Holt had four career starts at the center position, 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: yet what did we see last year? He started all 67 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: seventeen games, in fact, only missed seven snaps, and you realize, yes, 68 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: he is the anchor of that offensive line. He needs 69 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: to be here and hopefully long term. And that is 70 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: the case. 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: After Wednesday's news, go into the cold tub time machine 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: and hit rewind to this time a year ago, like 73 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: you just did. And that's a really salient point because 74 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: some of us, like myself, were gripping, the boxers were bunging, 75 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: were like, oh, geez, he only has four career starts 76 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: at center. I don't know what are the Cardinals. 77 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: Going to do? 78 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: And then he went out and he showed everybody what 79 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: he was going to do and he was absolutely rock solid. 80 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: And as the season progressed, you realize, Wow, this guy 81 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: isn't just a fill in center that's going to get 82 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: you from year one to year two. And you're gonna 83 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: target center in the draft in the first three rounds 84 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: because you have a dozen picks. Notice how they didn't 85 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: go after a center in the draft because guess what. 86 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: He checked every box, He answered every question, He silenced 87 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: every doubter, and he said, you know what, I do 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: have the potential to be a franchise center and Craig 89 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: we talked about this after the JG press conference earlier today. 90 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: I know I shoot my hand up in the air 91 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: when he asked, who has only recently come to realize 92 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: and value the importance of a franchise center and above 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: average center what that means to an offensive line. I 94 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: think we all got an education. I know I did 95 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: when Rodney Hudson was around and for that season in 96 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: almost a half where he was really, really good and 97 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: he proved real, really invaluable. Look at the Cardinals win 98 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: loss record with and without Rodney Hudson during his Cardinals era, 99 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: and it was striking the contrast. So if you have 100 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: that guy, the quarterback of the old line, it really 101 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: does go a long way. And guess what it appears 102 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: the Cardinals they believe they have that guy, or else 103 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: they wouldn't give them two years, twelve million, eight million guaranteed. 104 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Reportedly, by the way, in twenty twenty one, it was 105 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: nine to three Cardinals with Rodney Hudson two and three without, 106 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: and just the value that Hudson provided to a young 107 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray at the time. But fast forward now to 108 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and remember earlier at cards camp, there 109 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: was that moment when Froholt went down right, and all 110 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden was like, no, you can't lose him. 111 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: And it became all right, how serious is this going 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: to be? And then you mentioned a couple of days later, 113 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: I've got strong ligaments and the knee, and there was 114 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: maybe no concern at all. But I flashed back to 115 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: the red and white practice years ago. But Aq Shipley 116 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: went down, yeah, and that practice, and all of a 117 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: sudden you just start to think, wait a second, this 118 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: is the only player on the team that will guarantee 119 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: to touch the football every single snap. It doesn't begin. 120 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: The play does not begin until the center hikes that 121 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: football nine times out of ten to the quarterback. But 122 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: it could be someone else, And I'm with you. You realize 123 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: the value of having someone who not only can just 124 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: snap the ball and get it cleanly to the quarterback, 125 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: especially shotgun snaps, but can break the huddle, look at 126 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: the defense and say all right, we're good with the 127 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: play call we have, or Nope, this isn't going to work. 128 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: We need to check out of what we have and 129 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: go to this other play. 130 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not sure it was so much 131 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: his ligaments or tendons as him just smearing some protein 132 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: on that leg injury. I think that's what got him through. 133 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: He has a real affinity for protein and now he 134 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: can afford a lot of protein yield to Frohold. But 135 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: to your point, wasn't it the first year Rodney Hutson 136 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: showed up Kyler Murray after a game there was a 137 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: big touchdown pass. Kyler Murray directly credited the center for 138 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: making the read in the front seven identify and here 139 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: comes the blitz, some sort of double barrel or inside blitz. 140 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: Rodney Hudson called it out save Kyler's backside a and 141 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: then b enabled him to find a receiver downfield. Just 142 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: the credit that Kyler gave to the center for making 143 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: that big chunk throw touchdown happen was remarkable, and you 144 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: you realize the importance. And that's the way it works 145 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: in the NFL. You can be an inch away from 146 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: making a play. Guess what, you either make it or 147 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: you don't. And sometimes it is those inches that determine things. 148 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: And it can be the football IQ of a center 149 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: that can be all the difference in the world. Not 150 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: to mention he got all those snaps a year ago. 151 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: Next to Will Hernandez, he seems to have a real 152 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: relationship and respect for Evan Brown, the strength in the 153 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: weight room, this sort of experience he has in the league. 154 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: So you like to think the interior of that Cardinals 155 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: o line is stout, and let's face it, that's all 156 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: that's true important when you don't have a quarterback who 157 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: stands six foot six. One of the most striking things 158 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: about going to Indianapolis was Joe Flacco. That dude is 159 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: every bit of six foot six. He is like a statue. 160 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: He's Ben Roethlisberger in that pocket, and you realize how 161 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: he's still able to play at age thirty nine, just 162 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: stands back there like Peyton Manning and he's just able 163 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: to fire the ball. Last year's NFL Comeback Player of 164 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: the Year. So okay, you know, not everyone can be 165 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: big Ben with pass rushers dripping off you as you 166 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: complete a chunk throw down the field. And for that 167 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: reason and more, youel to fro Holt and then interior 168 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 2: line are ultra important for this Cardinals offense. 169 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: And I think the athleticism of those interior players along 170 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: the offensive line has become something that more teams are 171 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: looking forward or looking for because how many times do 172 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: we see yeah, the guard polls. But froeh Holt brought 173 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: it up earlier on Wednesday, the center is pulling as well. 174 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: So when you have that mobile quarterback, you also have 175 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: to be able to slide the pocket one way or 176 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: the other. So, stationary quarterback, could you just block the 177 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: guy in front of you? That's not the case anymore, 178 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: especially with how many mobile quarterbacks there are across the league. 179 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: You know what's remarkable is when I was spending most 180 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: of this month going back to some of the Cardinals 181 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: games late last season on TV and practicing the all 182 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: play by play right, trying my best to be Paully 183 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: Pash and failing miserably when I was watching it because 184 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: I'm always there on the field and I'm on the 185 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: radio side. You go back and watch the games and 186 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 2: you have the overhead shot, the TV shot, you realize, 187 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: to your point, how often yelled A Froholt was downfield, 188 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: James Connor chunk run, Michael Carter making dudes look stupid 189 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: at Pittsburgh and at Philadelphia, And how often seventy two 190 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: is out front leading the way. Seventy six is out 191 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: front leading the way. So not only do you have 192 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: to be really good at what you do, you have 193 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: to fit the system. And Drew Petsing wants these guys 194 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: to get out on the move. There's gonna be times 195 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: where they go thirteen personnel and it's gonna be cram 196 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 2: at vertical, and there's gonna be other times where they're 197 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: pulling in the trap blocks and they're getting a little 198 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: more exotic, if you will, And yelled to Froholt. Not 199 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: only has the strength a wait, you know, workout warrior, right, 200 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: but he does have that athleticism to get to the 201 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: second level and get downfield. And it was amazing how 202 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: often he was throwing a block against a linebacker or 203 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: dB downfield that got James Connor some extra yards. 204 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: So now you've got three fifths of your projected starting 205 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: offensive line under contract for next season. Paris Johnson yelled 206 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: Defroholtz and Jonah Williams. I would hope whether that's before 207 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: the start of the regular season or at some point, 208 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: I would hope will Hernandez is next. He's scheduled to 209 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: be a free agent. We know what he is capable 210 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: of doing. Just that physicality and the impossible to move 211 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: player as far as how he plays on that line. 212 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: And then Evan Brown it's a one year deal. Who 213 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: knows what that potentially could be. And remember you drafted 214 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: Isaiah Adams this past year, and you've got John Gaines 215 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: who knock on woods, stays healthy, and you see what 216 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: he's all about. But that offensive line, it doesn't they 217 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: we don't get a lot of the attention unless something 218 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: bad happens. But when you do have a solid offensive line, 219 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: well nothing else can happen unless they do their job, 220 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: whether that's the pass game or the run game. So 221 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: you lock up someone who deserves it because he showed 222 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: you talking about fold what he was capable of doing 223 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: last season. All right, let me give you my take 224 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: here hit zoom out on the entire month of August 225 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: so far, and you can agree or disagree, And I 226 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: know you will. Came into camp a little uncertain about 227 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: the D line, feeling like it would be better after 228 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: watching the D line and drills, after watching the D 229 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: line against the Colts against guys like Quentin Nelson and 230 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: their starting right tackle, and I feel a lot better 231 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: about the D line. Conversely, after watching the month of August. 232 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: I feel a little more uncertain about the Cardinals. 233 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: O line, and it's just because we haven't seen them. 234 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: We just haven't seen the Cardinals O line get any 235 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: meaningful snaps in games. 236 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: Zero zero, right, I mean the five projected daughters have 237 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: not played together in the preseason. 238 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: There you go, and so now you take some of 239 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: these drills or are they going against D lineman one 240 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: on one in space? It really caters to the defender. 241 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: It really caters to the D linemen. It's not five 242 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: guys working together in unison and you know it, here 243 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: comes a trap block or a double team and you're 244 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: springing you a nice crease for a running back. That 245 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: doesn't happen. Li the'se drills inevitably more often than not. 246 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: Even Quentin Nelson didn't look all that good, and he's 247 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: a six time Pro Bowl or three time All Pro 248 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: just because of the nature of the drill. So I 249 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: am more curious, I guess going into Week one than 250 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: I was going into camp about this Cardinals offensive line, 251 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: if that makes sense, Just because we haven't seen a 252 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: lot of them, and in the absence of any visibility, 253 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: you start to wonder, Okay, what are they going to 254 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: be all about because Evan Brown is new, Jonah Williams 255 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: is new. 256 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: Are they proven? 257 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: Yes? But you want to see them mesh and come 258 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: together in a game. 259 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: And then and you hope this doesn't happen. But the 260 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: depth and do we see what kind of depth they 261 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: have at the offensive line because Kelvin Beacham, yeah, you 262 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: projected to be your swing tackle. But outside of that, 263 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: who can you really count on? Who really has a resume? 264 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I can give you a bunch of names 265 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: that I would hope take that step forward, but there 266 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: are a lot of young names on that list. So 267 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that we've seen in these first 268 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: two preseason games, Paul, is the depth. And to your point, 269 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: opposing defensive lines have looked better than the Cardinals offensive 270 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: lines have looked through these first two preseason games. But 271 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: it is preseason, and those five offensive linemen that we 272 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: saw against the SATs and against the Colts, knock on 273 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: with those five players and multiple because we saw a rotation, 274 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: They're not going to be on the field together as 275 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: a unit at all this season. 276 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: I mean, as much as I love Big Mo Marquis Hayes, right, 277 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: and I'm leading the fan club and you know, the 278 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: parade and the whole deal. He doesn't have any regular 279 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: season action, so you're right, there's a lot of unproven guys. 280 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: Calvin Beacham, that's the opposite. Dude has thirteen years in 281 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: the league. He's literally played every single position, I think 282 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: accept center, maybe even did take some snaps of center. 283 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: So you feel real good about plug and play with 284 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: Calvin Beacham. Beyond that, there's a lot of talent, but 285 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: there's a lot of youth. You know, Christian Jones. We 286 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: saw what happen in Indianapolis with the three straight holding 287 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: calls and they got flagged for a fourth. Okay, yes 288 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: some of them were ticky tack. Yes he probably learned 289 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: a lesson. He has potential, but are you regular season ready? 290 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: And based on the performance of the second and third 291 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: team offensive line so far in the preseason, allbe a 292 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: going against ones in a lot of cases, especially the 293 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: opener against the Saints. Yeah, you wonder you know, as 294 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: a unit they left some plays out there. Now individually, 295 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: since how many olignment are you keeping? 296 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: Nine? Maybe potentially ten, potentially ten at least nine, because 297 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: what here are you doing with Isaiah Adams and Christian Jones. 298 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: You know those guys. I think you know, tackles are 299 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: in such demand in the league. If even though Christian Jones, 300 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: you know, day three pick, guess what, I think he 301 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: gets snapped up just based on his experience and his 302 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: measurable soul in Isaiah Adams, as much as he might 303 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: need to maybe get in the weight room, you know, 304 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: and get in that squad rack and really work from 305 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: year one to year two, not only like a Zach 306 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: Allen did as a round three pick a few years ago, 307 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: and it was night and day from year one to 308 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: year two. You're not letting him hit the street, not 309 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: as a round three pick, I don't imagine. So I 310 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: am curious how they construct that old line room come 311 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: final cuts. 312 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: You brought up two draft picks in Isaiah Adams and 313 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Christian Jones. Let's expand this conversation to the entire twelve 314 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: player draft class as far as what we thought in 315 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: April and now what we think coming into the last 316 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: preseason game and week one, and I think, yes, there's 317 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of an unknown because we haven't seen 318 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: him catch a pass yet. But Marvin Harrison Junior, I 319 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: think we're all on the same page that everyone is 320 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: just excited to see eighteen on the football field. He's 321 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: capable of being wide receiver one. That's why he was 322 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: drafted with the fourth overall pick. He should come in 323 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: and make an immediate impact. The other first round pick, 324 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson, we continue to hear, and we heard it 325 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: again earlier on Wednesday from his teammate LJ. Collier. Darius 326 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: Robinson continues to impress to the point now, Paul, I'm 327 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: almost I want to. I don't know if scared is 328 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: the right word, but I'm a little hesitant now because 329 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: I worry like this has the potential to be a steal. 330 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: You're not a steal when you're a first round pick, 331 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: but someone late in the first round that potentially could 332 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: have a major impact not just this season but for 333 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: years to come for the Cardinals on that defensive line. 334 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: Dare I say for the first time since Kalais Campbell 335 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: and maybe even be a better as far as production 336 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: wise than Kalais was when he wore the Cardinals uniform. Yeah. 337 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: If the Bills have been listening and paying attention to 338 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: Cardinals camp and all the media, they have to realize 339 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: something's going on with Daris Robinson because when players speak 340 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 2: in such reverence about a rookie, they're impressed and they 341 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: know and it happened early in camp. There was a 342 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: buzz going around the locker room. And then you see 343 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: what he did against the Colts, and then you see 344 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: the fact he didn't play in preseason game number two. Okay, 345 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: they've seen enough time to unleash the young rookie. The 346 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: question is where and how he's so versatile. You have 347 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: a need off the edge. Nick Rowlis will dial anything 348 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: and everything up depending on the situation. So all right, 349 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: I think you know there could be passing situations where 350 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: you use more the quickness. In terms of interior D line, 351 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: you sub guys out. I could see him over the 352 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: nose in the A gap. I could see him three technique. 353 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: He's very comfortable at the five, he says, so very 354 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: curious how they use him. I will say this, I 355 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 2: think as part of a deep rotation, which the Cardinals 356 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: proved they love to use a year ago, there's gonna 357 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: be some fresh legs that the Bills offensive line is 358 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: going to have to deal with. I mean, if you're 359 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: rolling with Justin Jones and Ball Nichols out of the gate. 360 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: And then you come up with LJ. Collier and Roy 361 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: Lopez and they have Darius Robinson and Dante Stills. So 362 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: there's six guys you're rotating in and if they're each 363 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: giving you around, you know, I don't know, do the 364 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: math thirty snaps apiece and every single snap is one 365 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: hundred percent, then okay that that should prove to be 366 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: pretty problematic for NFL offensive linemen. But as far as 367 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 2: Darius Robinson goes what we've seen in camp, you can't 368 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 2: help but wonder what does that mean? Because if there 369 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: was one position that man you wanted them to nail 370 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: was defensive line. To your point, that was a serious need. 371 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Obviously. A year ago, Callier called Darius Robinson a freak, 372 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: a straight out baller, and mentioned that playing in the 373 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: SEC has prepared Darius for the NFL. Because I believe 374 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: it was your question to call you about, all right, 375 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: what is what is Darius gonna learn? That you know 376 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: l J but he doesn't as a rookie, and it 377 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: was basically, no, he's good. He's ready to go right now, 378 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: which I think speaks not only to the athleticism and 379 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: the skill Seid, but what we've heard also as far 380 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: as just the football IQ, I mean he has immersed 381 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: in that playbook and studying film to where maybe he 382 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: studies a little bit too much because as he mentioned, 383 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: that's all he's got time to do. Or what else 384 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: is he going to do but watch film? 385 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: It's me Or when you look at the All SEC 386 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: first team and you look at d line and you 387 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: see anyone other than Alabama, Georgia, LSU. To make that 388 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: first team All SEC is not only an accomplishment, but 389 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: to do it from Missouri that means you balled out. 390 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: That means you dominated. That means you had the respect 391 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: of everyone else in the conference. And I get the sense, 392 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: just you know, the times we've interviewed Darius Robinson, I 393 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 2: get the sense that he's been curious himself. He's almost 394 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: finding out himself, Oh I am really equipped for this league. 395 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: That guess what, the NFL might not be that much 396 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: of a leap from the SEC. And I think maybe 397 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: he's proved to himself a little bit this month when 398 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: he goes against Quintin Nelson and wins. Oh wait a minute, 399 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: what am I capable of in this league? And I 400 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: tell you this much, it's certainly peaked everyone in the 401 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: curiosity around the Cardinals. 402 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: A lot of excitement on both first round draft picks. 403 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: Still a little bit of an unknown with second round 404 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: cornerback Max Meltain. I would expect him to be on 405 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: the field on Sunday, at least initially. He missed that 406 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: first preseason game played against the Indianapolis Colts. But is 407 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: he corner number two right now? I would say he's 408 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: corner number three behind STARLINGE. Thomas. But there is some 409 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: upside there. You just haven't seen it. And I think 410 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: losing that practice time during Cardinals camp at State Farm 411 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: Stadium really might have set him back a little bit 412 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: as far as being all right here I am week one. 413 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: It might he might be more of a rotation guy 414 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: and then a assume that spot opposite Sean Murphy Bunting. 415 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: You want to make sure too, he's not a liability 416 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: in terms of annoying the system, because once you get 417 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: to the regular season, there's so many checks in variations 418 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: off the initial call, and you have to be in 419 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: sync with Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson and what they're 420 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: barking out in Kaiser White. So you got to get 421 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 2: him some more game reps in the preseason, I would agree, 422 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: and make sure he's not a liability mentally. We all 423 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: remember a certain opener years ago against New England where 424 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: there was a rookie corner who blew a call and 425 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: that ended up being the difference in the game because 426 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: it was a huge fifty yard touchdown pass that shouldn't 427 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: have happened because it was a mental error. So once again, 428 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: you have to prove yourself the trust factor with the coaches. 429 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: But I mean Max Melton against Marvin Harrison junior. Honestly, 430 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: I've seen Max Melton do a lot better job against 431 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior than most of the Colts corners did 432 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: in those one on ones. 433 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are going to help one another out as 434 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: far as the whole cliche, iron sharpens ire as far 435 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: as getting those getting each of them ready for that 436 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: particular week. 437 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: So you know the other question with corner and you 438 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: get into the draft Elijah Jones, so all right, look, 439 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: he's got all the measurables, has the size, he was 440 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: close in a couple of plays so far in the preseason, 441 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: also got whistled for a flag, So he's a curiosity 442 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly where he is at. There hasn't 443 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: been a lot of talk about him, but again, a 444 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: nearly six foot two third round corner, you got to 445 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: find a place for him on the final fifty three 446 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 2: because that sort of pedigree in those measurables, somebody will 447 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: snap him out. 448 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: And the other three third round picks we touched on, 449 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: Isaiah Adams maybe more of a development as far as 450 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: an immediate impact player. But Trey Benson is the RB 451 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: two or part of that running back rotation behind James 452 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: Connor and then tied end Tip Ryman. Who is going 453 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: to have a role. It's just a matter of okay, 454 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: is it more blocking or And we saw it a 455 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: lot during training camp. He was involved in that pass game, 456 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: but is he going to be given that opportunity at 457 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: least early on in the season. 458 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: You know, he had a good week in Indianapolis talking 459 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: to some of the coaches, I think he had a 460 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: good game against the Colts, So you know, he might 461 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: have flattened out that whole learning curve, might have flattened 462 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: out maybe the first week going into the Saints game. 463 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 2: And he's probably one of those guys who had some 464 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: nerves right. Xavier Thomas said on the first kickoff of 465 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: the Saints game the preseason opener, his legs were shaking. 466 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: Trey Benson's like. 467 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: Oh Jesus that Tyron Matthew Right, guys sort of had that. 468 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 2: But then once they got that out of their system, 469 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: I think tip Ryman really did start to excel and 470 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 2: start to ascend again in Indianapolis. And there's no doubt 471 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: if They're gonna keep only three tight ends, and I'm 472 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: hard pressed to see them keep a fourth if they do. 473 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: I don't think that players on this roster right now. 474 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 2: Tip Ryman is gonna be a huge part of this offense. 475 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: And you hear Trey Benson rave about some of the 476 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: blocks he threw against the Colts in the game. 477 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: Does he become more of a sixth offensive lineman or 478 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: a blocking tight end and then you see him flash 479 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: across the middle because I would like to see him 480 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: given that opportunity to catch them passes because he does 481 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: have good hands show it at Illinois, but it wasn't 482 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: asked to be a part of the pass game. I 483 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: think with the Cardinals he is going to be asked 484 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: to be a part of that passing game. So that's 485 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: the first three rounds. Now, let's get to Day three 486 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: picks and rounds fourth through seven. And the two players 487 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: in particular that I do think one I like their future, 488 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: but how much do we see early on this season? 489 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: And that is Dadrian Taylor Demerson Rabbit, the fourth round 490 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: safety out of Texas Tech, and then outside linebacker Xavier Thomas, 491 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: fifth round out of Clemson. I love what I have 492 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: seen from both of those players so far, especially in 493 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: the preseason. Question is, though, Paul, as far as safety position, 494 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: you're not replacing Buddha Baker, You're not replacing Jalen Thompson. 495 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: Is there a role defensively for Rabbit right now? Or 496 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: does he become more of those the guy loses his 497 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: shoe is like Nick Rowlis likes to say, and all 498 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Okay, Rabbit's got to go in for 499 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: a series or a quarter. 500 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: Well, and if you're going dime and you have six dbs, 501 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 2: then maybe he's that guy. But even in nickel right now, 502 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: Garrett Williams goes inside to the slot and then that 503 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 2: outside corner is either Starling Thomas or Max Melton. So 504 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: I'm with you, he's gonna star on special teams. You know, 505 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: his tenacity, his instincts, his speed, his ability to finish 506 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: is going to be well served on special teams. But 507 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: he's a lock to make this team. And you saw 508 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: you saw his ability, especially with that interception against the Colts. 509 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: What's interesting is how Jonathan Gannon likens him to a 510 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: Buddha Baker, a jail In Thoms similar style of safety, right, 511 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: seek and destroy, that sort of guy with a lot 512 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: of athleticism. Xavier Thomas, Okay, not only is he a lock, 513 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure he isn't the best pass rusher 514 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: on this team. And like we talked to Kyle Vanabosch 515 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: about this week on the Red Sea Report, he will 516 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: have a role. 517 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: There will be blood. 518 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: He's going to be out there, how much in what situations. 519 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: You know, he's still a work in progress in the 520 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: run game. So obvious rundowns maybe not, but obvious passing downs. 521 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 2: Here comes fifty four and I think he's coming off 522 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: the edge wide nine, maybe like a seven, but I 523 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: mean you get when he gets a lineman in space, 524 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: look out. Because he has something that exceeds every other 525 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: pass rusher on this team right now, and that is 526 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: elite speed off the edge. 527 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: Not going up against first team offensive lineman a little 528 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: bit against the New Orleans Saints, but for the most 529 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: part second and third team players. But in these two 530 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: preseason games, according to Pro Football Focus, Xavier Thomas forty 531 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: pass rush snaps, eight pressures most among rookies, two sacks, 532 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: and a pass rush win rate better than twenty two percent. 533 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: And you hear people talk, well, what's that mean. Well, 534 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: anything better than twenty percent win rate on your pass 535 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: rushing attempts is very, very good. So you can't fault 536 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: any of these players as far as who they're going 537 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: up against in the preseason. So what are you doing 538 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: with those reps, with those opportunities? And it's hard not 539 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: to be impressed with fifty four just because third down situation, 540 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: obvious passing down. Certainly send in Xavier Thomas and just 541 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: go get that quarterback. I could certainly see that Week one. 542 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love the point that KBB made about 543 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: their different body types. You're gonna throw at tackles. Zavian 544 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 2: Collins at nearly six y five two to sixty plus, 545 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: way different than Dennis Gardek, the Tasmanian Devil, Way different 546 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: than Victor d. Mukagi, who continues to win, by the way, 547 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: hasn't been able to finish this preseason, continues to win. 548 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: He's like the Raging Bowl. And then Xavier Thomas right 549 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: with the speed and the footwork. So at least you 550 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: can throw a variety of pass rush styles at these tackles, 551 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: and maybe as the game wears on, you know, as 552 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: opposed to an offensive line wearing down a defensive line, 553 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 2: maybe all these different sort of pass rushing styles can 554 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: wear on the tackles. 555 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: The other three draft picks Christian Jones, offensive lineman in 556 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: the fifth round, Tejon Palmer, the wide receiver out of 557 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: UAB sixth round selection, and cornerback Jaden Davis seventh round 558 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: pick out of Miami. Think again, Christian Jones and Isaiah 559 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: Adams third round versus fifth round, but I think they're 560 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: still in the developing category. And to be honest, I 561 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: haven't seen much of Tejon Palmer. He's flashed a couple 562 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: of times. And then Jayden Davis being that third corner 563 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: of the three drafted. You like the measurables of both 564 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: Palmer and Davis. It's just real tough to make that 565 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: initial fifty three man roster, but certainly if they have 566 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: done enough during the time here, could certainly see themselves 567 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: on the practice squad to keep that development. 568 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, practice squad for both. I would think if you're 569 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 2: looking for another rookie beyond Christian Jones to make this 570 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: fifty three, it's Xavier Weaver. That's the guy you're looking at. 571 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: The undrafted runn that's your guy out of Colorado. Saying 572 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: Craig not the only one saying it at this point. 573 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: The Polypig skin break up playeric camp, We'll see. I 574 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: don't know. All I know is he had a thirty 575 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: seven yard kickoff return. He's looked really good and then 576 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: he has made contested catches and we had a chance 577 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: to talk to JG before the Colts game. He's impressed. 578 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. He is a more polished 579 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: route runner that maybe coaches had anticipated. He's a four 580 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: to four guy. He plays fast, he gets good separation, 581 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: and he has just sort of a swag and a 582 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: confidence about him. And I tell you what, he is 583 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: a following. He has a lot of fans from his 584 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: college days at Colorado and elsewhere. He is a big 585 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: following and a lot of believers on social media who 586 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: are definitely pulling for him. So he's definitely one of 587 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: the first names I'm going to go to when the 588 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: final fifty three comes out. 589 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: Listed at six foot ways one hundred and sixty nine. 590 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: Now this is this is when he weighed in initially, 591 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: so I'm guessing he's put on some pounds because he 592 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: is going to need to fill out that frame in 593 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: order to sustain a full seventeen game regular season, whether 594 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: that's on the active roster or the practice squad. I'll 595 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: say this though about Weaver as far as potential fifth 596 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: or sixth wide receiver, but seeing him on special teams 597 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: on punt return, on kick return, as far as being 598 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: the potential back up to Greg Dortch or DJ Dallas, 599 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: because that's where these free agents are going to have 600 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: to make their mark, be a special team's ace in 601 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: order to make sure you're active on game day to 602 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: potentially have an opportunity to play on offense or defense. 603 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Do we know that Greg Dortch is 604 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: going to be a regular return man. That's fair now 605 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: that he's in the regular rotation at receiver. Dertsch is 606 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: another guy who look, I mean you can only take 607 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: so many hits the risk reward of putting him back there. 608 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: If Xavier Weaver has proven DJ Dallas is phenomenal. Obviously 609 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: in the return game, Mario Demurcato has done it, Michael 610 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: Carter has done it. So if you're going to keep 611 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: you're keeping four maybe five running backs, you justify that 612 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: via special team, especially if you're only keeping three tight ends. 613 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure Greg Dortch, as talented as he is, 614 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: as much as he loved to try the new kickoff format, 615 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: because they know he really wants a piece of that action. 616 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 2: He thinks that caters to his game and his skill set. 617 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. 618 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: That they put him out there when you have some 619 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: other guys who are capable, and then you don't want 620 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: to risk your starting slot receiver. 621 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fair point to make. I do think 622 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: you'll see him on punt return, maybe not so much 623 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: on kickoff return, because bottom line is on punt return, 624 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: it's find someone who can field the punt first and foremost, 625 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: and then the second thing is, okay, can you get 626 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: up field for you know, however many yards, seven, eight, 627 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: nine yards. But the big thing is secure the football 628 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: because that's why Patrick Peterson for so many years was 629 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,479 Speaker 1: just tossed out there on a given possession because they 630 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: needed to make sure the offense got the foot pawn, 631 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't dropped or the ball went behind you and 632 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're starting from inside your own 633 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: ten yard line. 634 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they punt returns during camp. There's always one day 635 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: one practice where they try and compete and see how 636 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: many footballs you can catch in a row and hold 637 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: on to them. Pat p set the record with seven. 638 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: He actually he had six. He's juggling six and he 639 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: caught the seven. So if you have those sort of 640 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: ball skills, it's amazing how you'll find your way on 641 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: it in the field because coaches they want to trust 642 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: the guy who's fielding the punt. 643 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: By the way, would this note that feel free to 644 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: use Paul on the pregame huddle on Sunday because thankfully 645 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: you're back in the radio booth during pregame coverage because 646 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: Dave Passion Ron Woofley are now handling play by play 647 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: and color duties. You'll be on the sideline on Sunday 648 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: in Denver. By the way, if you check the weather 649 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: and what it might be. Ah, I'm not talking about it. 650 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: Supposedly it's ninety plus sunny, middle of the afternoon. I'm 651 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: gonna make a few phone calls. Are old pal Vic Lombardi. 652 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna work on that for me. Let me ask 653 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: you this, as far as weather that you would prefer 654 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: Thursday in Indianapolis during that practice where it poured or 655 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: right hot and humid on the sideline, I e. Miami. 656 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: You know what, that's a tough one because one of 657 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: the worst sideline gigs has been Jacksonville in September and 658 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: over twenty years, we've done that twice and that was 659 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: no fun, I can tell you that much. And they 660 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: always put the visiting team in the direct sun. So 661 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I didn't necessarily mind the rain 662 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: all that much. It would have been a lot better 663 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: if I was actually equipped only twenty years as a 664 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 2: sideline guy, and I left my rain gear back in 665 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: the hotel, so that was really right. But yeah, that's 666 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: a tough one on both fronts. You know, it's pre 667 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: season football. We can't have either scenario. It's just not 668 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: worth it. I mean, come on now, and by the way, 669 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: the marathon gig that you pulled not once but twice 670 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: during the preseason. I think we owe you a stake 671 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: to come full circle here. 672 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: Agree. I appreciate that, by the way, before I had 673 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: a point to make before you got sidetracked here. But 674 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: here's the stat that you can use. I don't know 675 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: if you saw it or not. Pro Football Focus Day 676 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: three picks in the preseason. Okay, Rabbit the highest graded 677 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: Day three pick and it's not even close. Wow, eighty 678 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: eight point eight is his PFF grade highest among Day 679 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: three picks. Now, people have a love affair love hate 680 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: relationship with PFF. I a Justin Pugh. What are they 681 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: seeing versus what Rabbit is actually supposed to be doing. 682 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: But because it's good news, I'll throw it out there that, yes, 683 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: number one among all Day three picks is Rabbit. 684 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: Well translation, it confirms what we've seen. He jumps off 685 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: the film. Has he been one hundred percent in all 686 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: his assignments, We don't know, But we do know that 687 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: if he has messed something up, he has the recovery 688 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 2: speed and that's sometimes just as critical as anything. And 689 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: so with that sort of ability, they're gonna find a 690 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: role for him for him somehow, some way, it's sort 691 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: of like Xavin Collins, right, the freak that is Zavin Collins. 692 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: They have used him in some of those third down 693 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: passing situations over the nose, mugging the egg gap, you know, 694 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: sort of you know, faking that he's gonna come with 695 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: the blitz and then he's got deep center on a 696 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: cover three and he'll just sprint upon the snap all 697 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: the way to deep center to be the safety valve. 698 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: So there's kind of crazy stuff you can dial up 699 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: when you have those sort of athletes, and Rabbit is 700 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: one of those athletes. 701 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: Now, he has been fun to watch and you can 702 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: watch him potentially coming up on Sunday. Not quite sure 703 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: who will or who will not play, but the Cardinals 704 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: final preseason game is on Sunday. One point thirty is 705 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: the kickoff nine to thirty pre game coverage on the 706 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio network. We'll let Paul go to figure 707 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: out the weather for Denver and figure out whether he 708 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: needs to, I don't know, bring a hat or extra 709 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: sunscreen or change a clothes with him on this trip. 710 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 2: And they'll remind me the elevation is five and eighty feet, 711 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: so we're closer to the sun and it'll actually be 712 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 2: more intense with the sun factor and all that kind 713 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 2: of the UV's great. 714 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: That's great. 715 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you Denver for reminding us you're a mile high. 716 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: Paully prep he's on his way, Denver. 717 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: Lookout. On that note, we'll put a lit on. This 718 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by Hundai, probably partner 719 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals has always special thanks to our 720 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Mamahundra, our associate producer Cody Fincher. For 721 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: Paul Calvic, I'm Craig Rayelou. We'll talk to you next 722 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: time here on Cardinals Cover two.