WEBVTT - Introducing Hit Parade from Slate: "What’s 1984 Got to Do with It Edition Part 1"

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey there, it's justin Richmond. I want to take a

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<v Speaker 2>moment to share a podcast with you that I think

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<v Speaker 2>you'll enjoy. It's called Hit Parade, a show from Slate

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<v Speaker 2>about chart topping hits and what makes a song a smash.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hosted by pop chart analyst and our friend Chris Malanfi.

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<v Speaker 2>Twice a month, Chris tells tales from more than half

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<v Speaker 2>a century of pop chart history through storytelling, trivia, and

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<v Speaker 2>song snippets. Peters Sex how artists you love or hate

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<v Speaker 2>dominated the airwaves and shaped your memories forever. Today, we're

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<v Speaker 2>sharing one of our favorite episodes with you, What's nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four got to do with It? Edition. In the episode,

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<v Speaker 2>christ Dice Sex eight reasons why nineteen eighty four was

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<v Speaker 2>awesome for pop fans and walks us through all twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years of the year's number one hits, from Jump to

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<v Speaker 2>Hello karm a Chameleon to Caribbean Queen, Let's Go Crazy

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<v Speaker 2>to Like a Virgin. And when you're done listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, make sure to go check out part two

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<v Speaker 2>on Hip Parade's feed and go give the show a

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<v Speaker 2>follow so you never miss another one.

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<v Speaker 3>Now here's Chris.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Broken Record fans. Chris Molanfi here. I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 4>to share with you one of hip Parade's most popular

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<v Speaker 4>episodes from the last few months, our exploration of what critics,

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<v Speaker 4>chart fans, and pundits call the greatest year in pop

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty four. What you're about to hear is part

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<v Speaker 4>one of the episode, in which I run down all

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<v Speaker 4>of the factors that made nineteen eighty four an exceptional year,

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<v Speaker 4>from dance music to the Second British Invasion to hair

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<v Speaker 4>metal and hip hop. And there's a whole lot more

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<v Speaker 4>in part two, where we walk through all twenty of

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<v Speaker 4>the number one hits from nineteen eighty four. So when

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<v Speaker 4>you're done listening to Part one, make sure to find

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<v Speaker 4>Hip Parade wherever you listen to podcasts and continue the

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<v Speaker 4>story with Part two. Okay, let's get in the time machine,

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<v Speaker 4>hairspray our bangs, put on some legwarmers, and head back

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<v Speaker 4>to the year when doves cried, feet were loose, and

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<v Speaker 4>girls just wanted to have fun nineteen eighty four. Welcome

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<v Speaker 4>to hip Parade, a podcast of pop chart history from

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<v Speaker 4>Slate magazine about the hits from coast to coast I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Chris molanfy chart analyst, pop critic and writer of Slate's

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<v Speaker 4>Why Is This Song? Number One series on Today's Show

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<v Speaker 4>forty years ago this week, this was the number one

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<v Speaker 4>song in America, an improbable comeback by a regal, statuesque

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<v Speaker 4>singer who'd fought hard to return to the center of

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<v Speaker 4>the pop conversation. For the woman who came to be

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<v Speaker 4>known as the Queen of rock and roll, the late

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<v Speaker 4>summer of eighty four gave her the first and only

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<v Speaker 4>Hot one hundred chart topper of her career, Tina Turner

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<v Speaker 4>with What's Love Got to Do With It?

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<v Speaker 1>Love to Do It?

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<v Speaker 5>By the Hot Man hog at Me Brother.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a question you maybe haven't considered in all the

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<v Speaker 4>dozens of times you've probably heard What's Love Got to

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<v Speaker 4>Do With It? What is this song? How would you

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<v Speaker 4>classify it? Given Tina Turner's background, you might call it

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<v Speaker 4>rhythm and blues, but Turner preferred to call herself a

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<v Speaker 4>rock singer. Critics note that the songs versus have the

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<v Speaker 4>lilts of reggae or calypso music, but by the way

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<v Speaker 4>way it was first offered to and recorded by a

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<v Speaker 4>white British New wave band. We'll get to them later.

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<v Speaker 4>Tina's recording charted on Billboard's Pop, R and B, Rock, Dance,

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<v Speaker 4>and Adult Contemporary charts. Basically, this is a song for everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>I would call What's Love Got to Do With It?

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<v Speaker 4>Nineteen eighty four music. It represents everything that made that

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<v Speaker 4>year of pop legendary. The hits of nineteen eighty four

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<v Speaker 4>were admirably hard to classify. Bands from the world of

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<v Speaker 4>rock were playing with dance music, funk, even synthesizers job job,

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<v Speaker 4>while artists who were classified as R and B were

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<v Speaker 4>rocking harder than ever. Veteran acts who had been around

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<v Speaker 4>for a decade or more were, like Tina Turner, trying

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<v Speaker 4>new tricks, and a new generation of upstarts were upsetting

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<v Speaker 4>the status quo. Sleek dance music was back, even though

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't call it disco anymore. A new wave of

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<v Speaker 4>teen pin ups were grabbing for pop's brass ring bye Bye,

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<v Speaker 4>and of course, thanks to the dominance of MTV, videos

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<v Speaker 4>made the charts more colorful than ever. Ben Today, on

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<v Speaker 4>Hip Parade, we will travel back four decades to a

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<v Speaker 4>year that's been called the greatest in chart history. What

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<v Speaker 4>made nineteen eighty four so exceptional. Why did rockers and rappers,

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<v Speaker 4>punks and popsters, divas and dream boats all produce some

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<v Speaker 4>of their best work? And why forty years later are

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<v Speaker 4>we still missing that moment?

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<v Speaker 5>Another break down this long distance Lines and Nights.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a time when some of the most innovative

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<v Speaker 4>music wasn't the province of hipster's crew or crate diggers.

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<v Speaker 4>It was power rotated on the radio, like, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>the top hit of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what.

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<v Speaker 5>Wine doves crime.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's where your hit parade marches today. The week

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<v Speaker 4>ending August fourth, nineteen eighty four, when Princes When Doves

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<v Speaker 4>Cry was in its fifth and final week at number

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<v Speaker 4>one on the Hot one hundred, on its way to

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<v Speaker 4>being named Billboard's top hit of the year. It's rare

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<v Speaker 4>that any year's biggest hit is also its best, but

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<v Speaker 4>that's the kind of year nineteen eighty four was still

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<v Speaker 4>the gold standard for chart fans four decades later. So

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<v Speaker 4>join me as we recall a time when rain was purple,

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<v Speaker 4>feet were loose, the reflex was a lonely child, and

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<v Speaker 4>girls just wanted to have fun. Stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back with more from this episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Hit Parade.

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<v Speaker 3>After the break, We're back with hit Parade.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Canadian pop star Corey Hart with Sunglasses at Night,

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<v Speaker 4>a number seven hit in the summer of nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 4>In September of twenty fourteen, thirty years after this song

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<v Speaker 4>was a hit, and ten years ago this month, Rolling

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<v Speaker 4>Stone magazine ran a special commemorative feature ranking of the

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred best singles of nineteen eighty four, and Sunglasses

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<v Speaker 4>at Night was the song they ranked in one hundredth place,

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<v Speaker 4>which is about right. Corey Heart's American breakthrough single isn't

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<v Speaker 4>the most devastatingly brilliant hit of eighty four, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>a bop and it is of its time, a very cheeky,

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<v Speaker 4>kitchy and melodramatic synthpop jam. Maybe all that said, Sunglasses

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<v Speaker 4>at Night still gets played on classic hits radio stations

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<v Speaker 4>to this day and has racked up more than one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and thirty two million streams on Spotify. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is the nineteen eighty four hit that Rolling Stone ranked last.

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<v Speaker 4>It should also be noted that the magazine hasn't done

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<v Speaker 4>similar commemorative countdowns for other years of pop. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>when they published their twenty fourteen feature, Rolling Stone boldly

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<v Speaker 4>titled the Countdown one hundred best singles of nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 4>four Pop's greatest year?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, here's the song they ranked all the

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<v Speaker 4>way up at number two, Madonna's Borderline. Bet you've heard

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<v Speaker 4>that one on the radio recently too. Rolling Stone's countdown

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<v Speaker 4>is a great read, we'll link to it on the

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<v Speaker 4>Hit Parade show page, and a good argument starter. The

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<v Speaker 4>biggest argument might be over that title pop's greatest year?

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<v Speaker 4>Aren't there other candidates? By the way, three years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>on this very podcast, we at Hip Parade made the

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<v Speaker 4>case for the music of nineteen seventy one, a year

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<v Speaker 4>of greatness from Janice Joplin, The Stones, sly Stone, Rod

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<v Speaker 4>Stewart and Carol King.

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<v Speaker 5>And It's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to Night?

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<v Speaker 5>Do we really jatindergain?

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<v Speaker 4>To be clear, rolling Stone called nineteen eighty four pop's

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<v Speaker 4>greatest year, not rock's greatest, R and B or rap's greatest. This,

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<v Speaker 4>I think is defensible. As I said at the top

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<v Speaker 4>of our show, nineteen eighty four was a big year

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<v Speaker 4>for pop as a centralizing force. Rock plus R and

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<v Speaker 4>B plus dance plus country plus hip hop all found

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<v Speaker 4>a place on the radio in eighty four, and nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four was an unbeatable year for the pop single,

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<v Speaker 4>So naturally, chart nerds like your hip parade host hold

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<v Speaker 4>it in a high esteem.

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<v Speaker 6>Let the music play. It moves from thirteen to ten

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<v Speaker 6>in our countdown of the forty biggest, Shannon at number nine,

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<v Speaker 6>here's Cindy Lauper with girls just want to have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just cop to it as someone born in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>seventy one who became a teenager in nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 4>my bias is undeniable when it comes to both of

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<v Speaker 4>those years. So of course I think nineteen eighty four

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<v Speaker 4>was a great year for pop. But before I provide

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<v Speaker 4>more objective reasons why it might not just be me

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<v Speaker 4>and the staff of Rolling Stone claiming this, there's one

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<v Speaker 4>more debate we need to address that does often come

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<v Speaker 4>up in these pop nerd discussions. Was nineteen eighty four

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<v Speaker 4>the great year? Or was it actually nineteen eighty three?

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<v Speaker 4>That's the beasts. In a recent installment of his online column,

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<v Speaker 4>radio consultant Sean Ross pulled programmers, critics, and chart fans

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<v Speaker 4>over whether they preferred the hits of nineteen eighty three

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<v Speaker 4>or eighty four. Ross took it as a given that

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<v Speaker 4>this two year duopoly was the high water mark of

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<v Speaker 4>Contemporary Hits Radio or CCHR by just under a two

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<v Speaker 4>to one margin. Ross's police preferred nineteen eighty four, but

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<v Speaker 4>there was a strong eighty three contingent.

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<v Speaker 5>Sweet Teams as.

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<v Speaker 4>I could just as easily have done this episode about

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<v Speaker 4>eighty three. It really was an amazing year, the moment

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<v Speaker 4>when the second British invasion took hold, with Duran, Duran, Eurhythmics,

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<v Speaker 4>Culture Clubs, Spandau Ballet, Madness, Edie Grant and Dexy's Midnight

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<v Speaker 4>Runners all scoring their first American hits, major chart comebacks

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<v Speaker 4>for Donna, Summer Marvin Gay, Elton John and David Bowie

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<v Speaker 4>put on Red, the peak year for Michael Jackson's streak

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<v Speaker 4>of hits from Thriller, a late nineteen eighty two album

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<v Speaker 4>that totally dominated eighty three, as well as the pop

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<v Speaker 4>breakthrough of Prince. What made nineteen eighty three exciting was

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<v Speaker 4>the upsurge before the cultural wave crested. The truth is

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the nineteen eighty four music we'll discuss

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<v Speaker 4>in this episode was actually released in eighty three. Big

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four hits by Madonna, Cindy Lauper, Lionel Ritchie, Duran, Duran,

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<v Speaker 4>the Pointer Sisters, yes Zz Top and Billy Idol, among

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<v Speaker 4>many others, emerged from the cauldron of eighty three. So

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<v Speaker 4>in a way, you can think of nineteen eighty four

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<v Speaker 4>on the charts as at least two years rolled into one.

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<v Speaker 4>The movements that were bubbling up earlier in the decade

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<v Speaker 4>finally coalesced. As I argued in our nineteen seventy one

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<v Speaker 4>episode of Hip Parade. Seventy one was when the music

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<v Speaker 4>of the sixties came into full artistic fruition. Similarly, the

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<v Speaker 4>innovations of nineteen eighty two and eighty three bloomed into

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<v Speaker 4>full flower in nineteen eighty four. So I'm now going

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<v Speaker 4>to run down a list of eight reasons why nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four ruled, and the first reason will take us

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<v Speaker 4>back before nineteen eighty three or eighty two. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>we need to go back to just before the eighties began.

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<v Speaker 4>Reason one for the awesomeness of nineteen eighty four overcoming

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<v Speaker 4>the disco backlash, as we have discussed in several prior

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<v Speaker 4>Hit Parade episodes, nineteen seventy nine was a turning point

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<v Speaker 4>for dance music on the charts and in the popular consciousness.

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<v Speaker 4>In the wake of Chicago's menacing Disco Demolition Night in

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<v Speaker 4>July of seventy nine, disco became a dirty word. The

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<v Speaker 4>music did not actually die. Disco acts like Donna Summer

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<v Speaker 4>and production teams like Sheikh's, Nile Rogers and Bernard Edwards

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<v Speaker 4>continued to score hits into the nineteen eighties, but a

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<v Speaker 4>backlash to the culture of disco turned the charts away

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<v Speaker 4>from anything perceived as to dance oriented or black derived.

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<v Speaker 4>In the first few years of the nineteen eighties, the

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<v Speaker 4>hit parade pivoted toward light balladarie, country crossover, and yacht rock,

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<v Speaker 4>but by nineteen eighty two and eighty three, as new

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<v Speaker 4>wave synthpop began emerging on the charts, the sound of

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<v Speaker 4>this so called new pop was essentially disco in another guise, like,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, ABC's top twenty hit The Look of Love

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<v Speaker 4>Looks and the overwhelming chart success of Michael Jackson provided

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<v Speaker 4>a new model for black music that drew from disco

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<v Speaker 4>production styles but felt more modern. By late eighty three

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<v Speaker 4>and early eighty four, dance music, which is what we

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<v Speaker 4>called it. Then pop fans were careful never to say

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<v Speaker 4>the other five letter D word was doing better on

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<v Speaker 4>the charts than it had since nineteen seventy nine. Sleek

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<v Speaker 4>club styles were finding their place on the radio, like

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<v Speaker 4>the electro dance music of the Pointer Sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>The.

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<v Speaker 4>Explosive freestyle of Shannon, and of course, the nuveaux postdisco

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<v Speaker 4>of a newcomer named Madonna. All discussions of what made

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty four great have to start with the disco

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<v Speaker 4>backlash and the comeback from the backlash, because this informs

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<v Speaker 4>virtually everything that brought pop music back to life, even

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<v Speaker 4>if no one was saying the word disco, dance, music, production, tropes,

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<v Speaker 4>and black informed styles were infecting all manner of hit music,

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<v Speaker 4>not just club music or R and B, but also

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<v Speaker 4>straight up rock like zz Top UK, synthpop like Bronski Beat,

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<v Speaker 4>and even metal. This nineteen eighty four Motley Crue hit,

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<v Speaker 4>their second single ever to make the hot one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>is basically disco slowed down and rocked up. To all

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<v Speaker 4>of this. Erzat's disco from Madonna to Motley Crue came

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<v Speaker 4>packaged with glossy music videos which brings us to another

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<v Speaker 4>development that happened a few years before nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 4>that reached its apotheosis that year. Reason two for the

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<v Speaker 4>awesomeness of nineteen eighty four. The peak of first wave MTV.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Holy mo, it's not funny.

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<v Speaker 3>You was scared? Weren't here? Oh Listen't that scared?

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<v Speaker 4>This is scared, you could say. Nineteen eighty four kicked

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<v Speaker 4>off in spirit on December tewod nineteen eighty three, when

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Jackson's cinematic thriller video, directed by John Landis and

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<v Speaker 4>modeled after his horror film and American Werewolf in London,

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<v Speaker 4>premiered on MTV. Jackson's clip gave the fledgling video channel,

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<v Speaker 4>which had launched just two years earlier, its highest ratings ever.

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<v Speaker 4>Jackson and MTV were good to each other. When Thriller

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<v Speaker 4>the Song was issued as a single in January nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four, a full fourteen month after Thriller the Album

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<v Speaker 4>came out, It became the LP's record seventh top ten single,

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<v Speaker 4>peaking at number four on the Hot one hundred in

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<v Speaker 4>March of eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not.

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<v Speaker 4>You can divide early MTV history into before Michael Jackson

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<v Speaker 4>and after Michael Jackson. Legend has it that the channel

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<v Speaker 4>largely refused to play videos by black artists before CBS

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<v Speaker 4>Records threatened to withhold all of their videos unless MTV

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<v Speaker 4>played Jackson's early nineteen eighty three hit Billy Jean. By

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty four, MTV was regularly rotating clips by Jackson, Prince,

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<v Speaker 4>Donna Summer, and Lionel Richie Oh. But MTV was also

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<v Speaker 4>reinventing rock bands that had been around four years as

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<v Speaker 4>video stars. The Cars, the Boston new wave rockers who

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<v Speaker 4>released their debut album back in nineteen seventy eight, were

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<v Speaker 4>rebooted in nineteen eighty four by their shimmering pop album

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<v Speaker 4>Heartbeat City and its string of kitchy videos. Their special

0:26:50.916 --> 0:26:55.076
<v Speaker 4>effects heavy clip for You Might Think Not only made

0:26:55.196 --> 0:26:59.076
<v Speaker 4>that song a top ten hit, the video upset Michael

0:26:59.156 --> 0:27:03.116
<v Speaker 4>Jackson's Thriller for Video of the Year at the first

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<v Speaker 4>MTV Video Music Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>When the phrase.

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<v Speaker 4>Similarly, Huey Lewis and the News, a San Francisco band

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<v Speaker 4>that had been around since nineteen seventy nine, played a

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<v Speaker 4>brand of unpretentious barroom rock and roll. Nothing about the

0:27:37.476 --> 0:27:41.356
<v Speaker 4>band was hip, Indeed, These were the guys who years

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<v Speaker 4>later recorded a song called Hip to Be Square. But

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<v Speaker 4>for their LP Sports, the telegenic Huey Lewis and his

0:27:50.716 --> 0:27:55.716
<v Speaker 4>band recorded a string of high concept, comical and plot

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<v Speaker 4>heavy videos. They and they were rewarded with four straight

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<v Speaker 4>top ten singles on the Hot one hundred, Heart and Soul,

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<v Speaker 4>I Want a New Drug, the Heart of Rock and Roll,

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<v Speaker 4>and if This is It.

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<v Speaker 5>The Never, If This is It.

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<v Speaker 1>It.

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<v Speaker 4>By the time If This Is It cracked the Hot

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred in the summer of eighty four, the Sports

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<v Speaker 4>LP had topped the Billboard album chart and sold five

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<v Speaker 4>million copies. Videos transformed Huey Lewis's career, and they arguably

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<v Speaker 4>spurred rock acts of all kinds to up their game

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<v Speaker 4>to make songs worthy of video treatment. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 4>bands that had benefited the most from the rise of

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<v Speaker 4>the music video in America were British New Romantic and

0:29:11.676 --> 0:29:15.996
<v Speaker 4>New Wave bands, who, starting in nineteen eighty two and

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<v Speaker 4>eighty three, went from curios in America to video superstars.

0:29:30.716 --> 0:29:35.636
<v Speaker 4>By nineteen eighty four, these bands, led by video demigods

0:29:35.756 --> 0:29:40.716
<v Speaker 4>Duran Duran, were also chart conquerors in America. As the

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<v Speaker 4>year began The band's Union of the Snake was lodged

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<v Speaker 4>in the top three on the Hot one hundred. But

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<v Speaker 4>what made eighty four doubly exciting was that not only

0:29:52.276 --> 0:29:57.116
<v Speaker 4>were these UK acts still innovating, the US acts had

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<v Speaker 4>been taking notes. Reason three for the awesomeness of nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four, the second British invasion and America catching up.

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<v Speaker 4>As we discussed in our British Invasions episode of Hit Parade.

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<v Speaker 4>By the spring of eighty four, forty percent of the

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<v Speaker 4>Hot one hundred was British acts, fueled in America by MTV.

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<v Speaker 4>The UK's post punk, new romantic and synthpop movements redefined

0:30:26.716 --> 0:30:30.396
<v Speaker 4>the cutting edge of cool, as personified by acts like

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<v Speaker 4>synth soul duo Eurythmics. Here they are with their ghostly

0:30:35.356 --> 0:30:38.436
<v Speaker 4>number four hit here comes the Rain Again.

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<v Speaker 5>Comes flying on my head like a memory flying on

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<v Speaker 5>my head, you emotion.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, just for comparison, here's another number four hit from

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<v Speaker 4>just a couple of months later, American Laura Brannigan with

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<v Speaker 4>her ghostly synthpop hit self Control. It's not a copy

0:31:06.876 --> 0:31:11.236
<v Speaker 4>of Eurythmics or really any specific act. In fact, it's

0:31:11.276 --> 0:31:14.396
<v Speaker 4>a cover of an Italian pop song, but you might

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<v Speaker 4>say that Team Brannigan was taking notes on British new

0:31:18.956 --> 0:31:32.156
<v Speaker 4>wave can Take. Or further down the chart that same summer,

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<v Speaker 4>here's a top twenty hit from British duo Wang Chung

0:31:36.396 --> 0:31:52.356
<v Speaker 4>their lush technopop bop dancehall Days, which doesn't sound far

0:31:52.476 --> 0:31:56.356
<v Speaker 4>removed from this top twenty hit from a few months earlier,

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<v Speaker 4>Ray Parker Junior's lush techno pop ballad I just can't

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<v Speaker 4>get over loving you.

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<v Speaker 3>When I do your name.

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<v Speaker 1>I give.

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<v Speaker 3>Does I do.

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<v Speaker 5>Loving you?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't?

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<v Speaker 4>Or a few spots further down the chart, here's British

0:32:19.436 --> 0:32:24.996
<v Speaker 4>progressive rock veterans Yes with their quirky Cacoffinus electro rock

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<v Speaker 4>track Leave It, a number twenty four hit in the

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<v Speaker 4>spring of eighty four. About six months later, here's a

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<v Speaker 4>number twenty three hit by American guitarist Lindsey Buckingham, veteran

0:32:46.836 --> 0:32:53.156
<v Speaker 4>of Fleetwood Mac, with his quirky Cacoffinus electra rocker Go Insane.

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<v Speaker 4>So say, in short, let's call this positive Transatlantic peer pressure.

0:33:07.676 --> 0:33:11.036
<v Speaker 4>Three years of British acts setting the bar for hip,

0:33:11.236 --> 0:33:15.036
<v Speaker 4>smart mass appeal pop had rubbed off on the Yanks.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody was bringing their a game. So by nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 4>it had become expected that a British blue eyed soul

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<v Speaker 4>group like Culture Club would blend guitars, synthesizers and clattery

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<v Speaker 4>sound effects on a hit like miss Me Blonde.

0:33:34.476 --> 0:33:39.996
<v Speaker 1>You miss Me and miss Me and miss Me Blood.

0:33:42.316 --> 0:33:43.076
<v Speaker 5>You Miss Me.

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<v Speaker 4>But the same week that song was climbing into the

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<v Speaker 4>top ten. Right next to it were Americans Daryl Hall

0:33:50.196 --> 0:33:53.916
<v Speaker 4>and John Oates with their own blend of guitars, synths

0:33:53.996 --> 0:34:09.876
<v Speaker 4>and clatter. Adult Education and the Ruboffs weren't just happening

0:34:09.956 --> 0:34:16.236
<v Speaker 4>across borders. They were happening across genres. Reason four for

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<v Speaker 4>the awesomeness of nineteen eighty four. Everybody was crossing over.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's play a little name that tune. Here's the intro

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<v Speaker 4>to a song that broke on the Hot one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>in December nineteen eighty four. It would eventually peak at

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<v Speaker 4>number two. Who's the artist? Sounds like moody new wave

0:34:46.916 --> 0:34:52.996
<v Speaker 4>guitar rock. Is it Duran, Duran? The Police Tears for Fears. Nope,

0:34:53.236 --> 0:35:05.396
<v Speaker 4>it's R and B singer Billy Oshan with Loverboy the

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<v Speaker 4>a song that, by the way, was co written and

0:35:16.276 --> 0:35:20.636
<v Speaker 4>co produced by famed rock producer Robert John mutt Lang,

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<v Speaker 4>who'd also produced hits earlier in eighty four for The

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<v Speaker 4>Cars and def Leppard. Let's play again? Whose dance floor breakdown?

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<v Speaker 1>Is?

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<v Speaker 3>This?

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds like hard electro funk club music, right, So who

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<v Speaker 4>is this? Chic the Gap band Rick James Guess again,

0:35:57.316 --> 0:36:01.156
<v Speaker 4>it's British punk turned pop star Billy Idol. With his

0:36:01.356 --> 0:36:05.396
<v Speaker 4>Fall eighty four hit Flesh for Fantasy. It made the

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<v Speaker 4>top thirty not only on the Hot one hundred, but

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<v Speaker 4>also Billboards Rock Tracks and dance disco chartssh rash. At

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<v Speaker 4>a time when popular music was coming out of a

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<v Speaker 4>very segregated period in the seventies and early eighties, with

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<v Speaker 4>rock and R and B and disco staying in separate lanes,

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<v Speaker 4>the hits of nineteen eighty four were all over the

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<v Speaker 4>genre map. Virtually no one was staying in their lane,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it was Lionel Ritchie who wrote and recorded a

0:36:51.436 --> 0:36:55.636
<v Speaker 4>straight up country song called Stuck on You that made

0:36:55.676 --> 0:36:58.356
<v Speaker 4>the pop and R and B Top ten and even

0:36:58.436 --> 0:37:03.516
<v Speaker 4>the country charts Top twenty five, an unprecedented chart crossover

0:37:03.676 --> 0:37:04.316
<v Speaker 4>at the time.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the feeding down, deep and massole. Then I just

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<v Speaker 5>came use guess.

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<v Speaker 1>A mon.

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<v Speaker 4>Or Pat Benattar. She'd spent years building a reputation as

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<v Speaker 4>the leading woman on album rock radio. She kicked off

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty four with a post disco club rock hybrid

0:37:30.036 --> 0:37:34.196
<v Speaker 4>whose video featured Benatar leading a troop of dancers in

0:37:34.276 --> 0:37:46.236
<v Speaker 4>a syncopated shimmy. The number five hit Love is a Battlefield.

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<v Speaker 5>That is a bed.

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<v Speaker 4>Or Bruce Springsteen, who, as we discussed in our Springsteen

0:37:58.316 --> 0:38:02.676
<v Speaker 4>episode of Hit Parade, wrote cover me for disco Queen

0:38:02.876 --> 0:38:06.756
<v Speaker 4>Donna summer. Bruce wound up keeping it for himself, but

0:38:06.996 --> 0:38:11.876
<v Speaker 4>maintained its torchy millow dry. The florid operatic rock song

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<v Speaker 4>was a number seven hit for Springsteen and the East

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<v Speaker 4>Street Band in the fall of eighty four. There were

0:38:30.676 --> 0:38:35.396
<v Speaker 4>also improbable team ups. A year after Michael Jackson topped

0:38:35.396 --> 0:38:38.836
<v Speaker 4>the charts with guitarist Eddie Van Halen on Beat It,

0:38:39.196 --> 0:38:43.116
<v Speaker 4>his brothers The Jacksons upped the ante by teaming with

0:38:43.236 --> 0:38:47.956
<v Speaker 4>the Stones, Mick Jagger, Mick and Michael Yowled over a

0:38:47.996 --> 0:38:51.636
<v Speaker 4>hard guitar riff on the number three summer eighty four

0:38:51.756 --> 0:39:13.396
<v Speaker 4>hit State of Shock, and Phil Collins, who'd been adding

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<v Speaker 4>Earthwind and Fire's horn section to his tracks for years.

0:39:17.716 --> 0:39:21.276
<v Speaker 4>He finally returned the favor by teaming up with E

0:39:21.636 --> 0:39:27.516
<v Speaker 4>WF singer Philip Bailey. Their duet Easy Lover, which exploded

0:39:27.556 --> 0:39:32.396
<v Speaker 4>with collins booming rock drums and Bailey's fluttery soul vocals,

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<v Speaker 4>went to number two on the Hot one hundred, number

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<v Speaker 4>three R and B, and number five on the Album

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<v Speaker 4>Rock chart. And I haven't even mentioned Prince, whose guitar,

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<v Speaker 4>vocals and very persona obliterated genre boundaries all over nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four. We'll talk more about him a little later.

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<v Speaker 4>In the twenty first century, genres increasingly seem like quaint

0:40:31.876 --> 0:40:36.356
<v Speaker 4>relics of a bygone time, and artists record in whatever

0:40:36.476 --> 0:40:40.316
<v Speaker 4>idiom they like, from Lil naz X to Steve Lacy

0:40:40.676 --> 0:40:44.636
<v Speaker 4>Taylor Swift to Post Malone, Beyonce to Shaboozi.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Eighties, this kind of promiscuous genre mixing was revolutionary, and

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty four was ground zero for all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>More in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>After the break, we'll be back with the conclusion of

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<v Speaker 2>part one of what's nineteen eighty four got to do?

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<v Speaker 2>With the edition from Hip Parade, We're back with the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of this episode of Hip Parade.

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<v Speaker 4>Besides all this crossover between genres, there was one genre

0:41:32.596 --> 0:41:35.556
<v Speaker 4>that really went out of its way to become more

0:41:35.676 --> 0:41:41.076
<v Speaker 4>accessible in nineteen eighty four. Reason five for the awesomeness

0:41:41.116 --> 0:41:58.596
<v Speaker 4>of nineteen eighty four Metal goes pop. Okay, hold on

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<v Speaker 4>to your hairnet, I Chris malanfy am about to say

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<v Speaker 4>something nice about bon Jovi. Runaway, their debut single, a

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<v Speaker 4>number thirty nine it in April nineteen eighty four, is

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<v Speaker 4>a really good song, maybe because it sounds the least

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<v Speaker 4>like a bon Jovi song on it. John bon Jovi

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<v Speaker 4>fronted a group of Journeymen session musicians he never played

0:42:24.196 --> 0:42:40.876
<v Speaker 4>with again. Runaway was emblematic of glam metal in nineteen

0:42:40.996 --> 0:42:44.916
<v Speaker 4>eighty four, and yes, as we discussed in our Hit

0:42:44.996 --> 0:42:49.236
<v Speaker 4>Parade episode about bon Jovi, they really were considered metal

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<v Speaker 4>at that time. After they began topping the Hot one hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of years later, the term hair metal was coined.

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<v Speaker 4>This brand of metal was frothy, catchy, laced with hooks,

0:43:02.036 --> 0:43:07.436
<v Speaker 4>and piled with synthesizers. Van Halen, whose LP nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 4>four was the year's top charting hard rock album, did

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<v Speaker 4>as much for the synthesizer that year as any techno pop.

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<v Speaker 5>Act Yeah You de Sile pure Ses.

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<v Speaker 4>But even when nineteen eighty four metal avoided synths and

0:43:31.436 --> 0:43:36.476
<v Speaker 4>stuck to guitars, it was shamelessly catchy. Like everything else

0:43:36.556 --> 0:43:39.956
<v Speaker 4>that year, metal was helping to define the bounds of

0:43:40.116 --> 0:43:56.596
<v Speaker 4>mass appeal pop. Van Halen scored three top twenty hits

0:43:56.636 --> 0:44:01.956
<v Speaker 4>in eighty four, including aleweight and Panama, and a massive

0:44:02.076 --> 0:44:05.836
<v Speaker 4>number one hit that we'll discuss later. But they were

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<v Speaker 4>not alone. They were joined in the top forty that

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<v Speaker 4>year year by Germany's Scorpions with the number twenty five

0:44:12.956 --> 0:44:27.796
<v Speaker 4>hit rock You Like a Hurricane. La band Rat with

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<v Speaker 4>their metallic love song Round and Round. The single reached

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<v Speaker 4>number twelve, and their LP Out of the Cellar went

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<v Speaker 4>top ten and double platinum. And the garish, flamboyant and

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<v Speaker 4>deliberately cartoonish Twisted Sister. Their music videos featuring bugs, bunny style,

0:45:00.716 --> 0:45:07.316
<v Speaker 4>comic violence against parents and principles, made Twisted Sister MTV stars.

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<v Speaker 4>But it must also be said that their number twenty

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<v Speaker 4>one hit We're Not Gonna Take It, written by outspoken

0:45:15.076 --> 0:45:20.116
<v Speaker 4>Twisted Sister frontman d Snyder, was a heartfelt, melodic and

0:45:20.396 --> 0:45:34.036
<v Speaker 4>stirring anthem god, so even the most meat and potatoes

0:45:34.156 --> 0:45:37.476
<v Speaker 4>rock bands were going the extra mile. In eighty four,

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<v Speaker 4>on the other end of the spectrum, America's most cutting

0:45:42.316 --> 0:45:48.556
<v Speaker 4>edge new genre was infiltrating the zeitgeist. Reason six for

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<v Speaker 4>the awesomeness of nineteen eighty four hip hop culture becomes

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<v Speaker 4>pop culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Faith, physic, dreams of Passage.

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<v Speaker 4>By eighty five four, hip hop had existed for over

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<v Speaker 4>a decade since DJ cool Hirk's legendary nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 4>Wreckroom Party, and rap had been a recorded medium for

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<v Speaker 4>more than four years since nineteen seventy nine's Rappers Delight.

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<v Speaker 4>The full pop breakthrough of rap was still a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years away, but you could feel it getting closer.

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<v Speaker 4>At the start of the year, Melly Mill's irresistible anti

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<v Speaker 4>drug jam Whitelines was something like a phenomenon, bubbling under

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<v Speaker 4>the Hot one hundred and peaking just outside the top

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<v Speaker 4>forty on the R and B chart. Famously, the first

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<v Speaker 4>rap group to break into the top ten on the

0:47:07.716 --> 0:47:11.836
<v Speaker 4>Hot one hundred would be run DMC with their Aerosmith

0:47:11.916 --> 0:47:16.716
<v Speaker 4>cover Walk This Way. That wouldn't happen until nineteen eighty six.

0:47:17.316 --> 0:47:21.836
<v Speaker 4>But in eighty four, run DMC were already making waves

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<v Speaker 4>with their self titled debut album and a string of

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<v Speaker 4>black radio hits, including the rock rap fusion rock Box

0:47:31.356 --> 0:47:34.916
<v Speaker 4>a number twenty two R and B hit No Bright.

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<v Speaker 1>The xnog Babe Manders, Up and Down, Slow Bay For.

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<v Speaker 4>And In the summer of eighty four, Brooklyn rap troupe

0:47:48.316 --> 0:47:53.556
<v Speaker 4>Nucleus scored a national hit with their zany electro funk

0:47:53.676 --> 0:47:58.116
<v Speaker 4>classic jam On It. It reached number fifty six pop

0:47:58.436 --> 0:48:02.676
<v Speaker 4>number nine R and B, remarkable for a rap single

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<v Speaker 4>on an independent label, and speaking as a native Brooklyn Nite,

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell you jam On It was as huge

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<v Speaker 4>on the radio that summer as anything by Madonna or Duranduran.

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<v Speaker 1>Screen.

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<v Speaker 4>The way you could tell hip hop culture was really

0:48:33.956 --> 0:48:39.316
<v Speaker 4>going overground was how elements of the culture scratching, rapping,

0:48:39.396 --> 0:48:44.356
<v Speaker 4>and especially breaking, were infecting middle of the road. Nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four, pop Records actress and pop star Irene Kara,

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<v Speaker 4>one year passed her number one hit Flashdance, What a Feeling,

0:48:54.716 --> 0:48:59.276
<v Speaker 4>returned to the top ten with the single Breakdance. As

0:48:59.396 --> 0:49:03.516
<v Speaker 4>guileless as this song was, it probably did more to

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<v Speaker 4>introduce breaking to middle America than most rap singles did,

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<v Speaker 4>and famously, nineteen eighty four was the year breaking hit

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<v Speaker 4>the big screen. Canon Films released two back to back

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<v Speaker 4>teensploitation dance movies in eighty four, in quick succession, the

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<v Speaker 4>hit Breakin and the insta sequel Say It with Me Now,

0:49:39.876 --> 0:49:45.196
<v Speaker 4>break In two Electric Boogaloo. The first Breakin generated a

0:49:45.236 --> 0:49:49.596
<v Speaker 4>top ten hit from electro soul duo Ollie Brown and

0:49:49.676 --> 0:49:54.556
<v Speaker 4>Jerry Knight. Ollie and Jerry's Breakin' There's No Stopping Us

0:49:54.796 --> 0:50:12.556
<v Speaker 4>reach number nine in August of eighty four, but possibly

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<v Speaker 4>rap's biggest pop culture moment of eighty four came on

0:50:17.236 --> 0:50:20.396
<v Speaker 4>a single by An R and B Veteran.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck a con chuck a kon chuck a kN chacka.

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<v Speaker 3>Kan chuck.

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<v Speaker 4>Chuck chaka cohns. I Feel for You was a cover

0:50:34.196 --> 0:50:38.076
<v Speaker 4>of a song by Prince, with guest harmonica playing by

0:50:38.196 --> 0:50:43.916
<v Speaker 4>Stevie Wonder and samples of Wonder's early hit Fingertips, punctuated

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<v Speaker 4>most famously by rapping from Mellie Mill and up to

0:50:48.556 --> 0:50:52.196
<v Speaker 4>the minute scratching and hip hop style production.

0:50:59.876 --> 0:51:10.196
<v Speaker 3>Cha co Let Me tell You What's One to be?

0:51:10.516 --> 0:51:13.836
<v Speaker 4>I Feel for You reached number three on the Hot

0:51:13.876 --> 0:51:16.836
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and number one on the R and B

0:51:17.076 --> 0:51:21.876
<v Speaker 4>chart In November eighty four, Shaka Khan's biggest pop hit ever,

0:51:22.116 --> 0:51:26.956
<v Speaker 4>served as a mainstream ambassador to hip hop culture. Rap

0:51:27.196 --> 0:51:31.036
<v Speaker 4>was also becoming famous for beefs. The dis records Ro

0:51:31.196 --> 0:51:35.276
<v Speaker 4>San Rock San and Rock San's Revenge also dropped in

0:51:35.396 --> 0:51:38.756
<v Speaker 4>late eighty four, but the biggest beef of the year

0:51:38.956 --> 0:51:43.996
<v Speaker 4>happened in the pop world between two female newcomers. It

0:51:44.076 --> 0:51:49.476
<v Speaker 4>was concocted entirely by the media, yet even there something

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<v Speaker 4>positive emerged. Reason seven for the awesomeness of nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Cindi Lauper plus Not Versus Madonna. Cindy Lauper and Madonna,

0:52:16.836 --> 0:52:21.236
<v Speaker 4>two dance pop singers nurtured in New York's downtown arts

0:52:21.276 --> 0:52:26.236
<v Speaker 4>and club scene, released their solo debut LPs She's So

0:52:26.516 --> 0:52:32.076
<v Speaker 4>Unusual and Madonna, respectively, just weeks apart in the second

0:52:32.196 --> 0:52:36.636
<v Speaker 4>half of nineteen eighty three. By nineteen eighty four, both

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<v Speaker 4>LPs were spinning off strings of hits. Because the patriarchy

0:52:56.556 --> 0:53:01.956
<v Speaker 4>won't allow two accomplished women to coexist without trying to

0:53:02.076 --> 0:53:05.676
<v Speaker 4>start a fight. By mid eighty four, the press and

0:53:05.796 --> 0:53:10.396
<v Speaker 4>the music industry positioned Cindy Lauper and Madonna as would

0:53:10.476 --> 0:53:14.836
<v Speaker 4>be rivals. As we discussed in our Lapper episode of

0:53:14.956 --> 0:53:20.516
<v Speaker 4>Hip Parade, neither woman actively engaged in this imagined rivalry.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that the media even called it a catfight

0:53:24.556 --> 0:53:39.996
<v Speaker 4>was depressing. But here's the thing, this was a happening.

0:53:40.436 --> 0:53:43.996
<v Speaker 4>Not since the early sixties girl group era had two

0:53:44.076 --> 0:53:49.516
<v Speaker 4>women launched careers simultaneously and had this much chart impact

0:53:49.676 --> 0:53:52.676
<v Speaker 4>out of the box. By the end of eighty four,

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<v Speaker 4>Lauper became the first woman to pull four top five

0:53:57.036 --> 0:54:00.836
<v Speaker 4>hits from a single album, the number two hit Girls

0:54:00.996 --> 0:54:04.716
<v Speaker 4>Just Want to Have Fun, the number one Time after Time,

0:54:05.116 --> 0:54:09.236
<v Speaker 4>the number three Shebop, and the number five hit All

0:54:09.276 --> 0:54:26.676
<v Speaker 4>Through the Night. Madonna's success took, believe it or not,

0:54:27.156 --> 0:54:31.116
<v Speaker 4>a bit longer to get rolling. Holiday was only a

0:54:31.196 --> 0:54:35.996
<v Speaker 4>number sixteen hit, Borderline a number ten hit, But by

0:54:36.116 --> 0:54:40.316
<v Speaker 4>the time Lucky Star reached its peak in October of

0:54:40.396 --> 0:54:55.916
<v Speaker 4>eighty four, Madonna had kicked off a six year streak

0:54:56.276 --> 0:55:01.596
<v Speaker 4>of sixteen consecutive top five hits, a still unbroken Hot

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred record, and she matched Lauper's daring from the start.

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<v Speaker 4>Just weeks after Cindy Peak with her ode to the

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<v Speaker 4>Joys of Female Masturbation, she bop Madonna dropped her meditation

0:55:29.596 --> 0:55:34.916
<v Speaker 4>on Reinvigorated Virginity. We'll get to that song in more

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<v Speaker 4>detail a bit later in the show. I choose to

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<v Speaker 4>remember the Cindy Madonna confluence of nineteen eighty four as

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<v Speaker 4>a next level moment for women on the charts, rather

0:55:53.916 --> 0:55:59.116
<v Speaker 4>than a rivalry. Two great artists, each with totally original

0:55:59.196 --> 0:56:03.996
<v Speaker 4>pop persona, were dropping first rate bops every few weeks.

0:56:04.436 --> 0:56:24.676
<v Speaker 4>As the meme says, why not both when they broke

0:56:24.916 --> 0:56:29.196
<v Speaker 4>in eighty four. Madonna was over twenty five years old,

0:56:29.596 --> 0:56:34.796
<v Speaker 4>Lauper thirty years old, fairly mature for brand new pop stars.

0:56:35.356 --> 0:56:38.796
<v Speaker 4>But they were both kids compared with some of the

0:56:38.876 --> 0:56:43.316
<v Speaker 4>year's big hit makers, which brings up one last X

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<v Speaker 4>factor about the year. Reason eight for the awesomeness of

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty four, Old dogs learn new tricks. As I

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<v Speaker 4>said at the top of our show, Tina Turner pulled

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<v Speaker 4>off a major comeback in nineteen eighty four, becoming a

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<v Speaker 4>bigger hit maker than she'd ever been at the ripe

0:57:15.596 --> 0:57:19.916
<v Speaker 4>old age of forty four, and she was in good company.

0:57:20.316 --> 0:57:24.556
<v Speaker 4>A wave of pop veterans scored major hits in eighty four,

0:57:25.076 --> 0:57:29.116
<v Speaker 4>not just keeping up with the whipper Snappers, but totally

0:57:29.236 --> 0:57:34.756
<v Speaker 4>reinventing themselves. You might say Tina Turner wasn't the only

0:57:35.036 --> 0:57:54.956
<v Speaker 4>elder superstar with legs. Legs. Zz Top's first ever top

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<v Speaker 4>ten hit in the summer of eighty four, peaked just

0:57:58.516 --> 0:58:03.596
<v Speaker 4>as the Bearded Texas Trios members turned thirty five. As

0:58:03.636 --> 0:58:07.836
<v Speaker 4>we discussed in our Legacy Hits episode, after spending the

0:58:07.876 --> 0:58:13.276
<v Speaker 4>seventies as electric blues craftsmen, zz Top rebooted themselves on

0:58:13.436 --> 0:58:19.356
<v Speaker 4>their Eliminator album as electro dance rockers, retrofitting their guitar

0:58:19.516 --> 0:58:25.196
<v Speaker 4>crunch with sequencers and synthesizers, and they rebooted themselves as

0:58:25.396 --> 0:58:30.916
<v Speaker 4>MTV stars in a series of cheeky videos. Or let's

0:58:30.996 --> 0:58:45.916
<v Speaker 4>consider a very different but just as senior rock band Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>They'd been recording since the late sixties. In nineteen eighty four,

0:58:52.756 --> 0:58:57.036
<v Speaker 4>as Chicago's members were all between thirty five and forty,

0:58:57.396 --> 0:59:02.796
<v Speaker 4>the horn inflected troop went multi platinum with Chicago seventeen

0:59:03.276 --> 0:59:07.596
<v Speaker 4>their most hit packed LP. Ever, four of its hits

0:59:07.676 --> 0:59:10.636
<v Speaker 4>cracked the top twenty, and two of them reached the

0:59:10.676 --> 0:59:15.316
<v Speaker 4>top five, including the number three hit Hard Habit to Break,

0:59:16.276 --> 0:59:21.756
<v Speaker 4>and those were just the groups. Veterans soloists were also scoring.

0:59:21.956 --> 0:59:39.516
<v Speaker 4>In eighty four, David Bowie, who had just turned thirty seven,

0:59:39.956 --> 0:59:42.796
<v Speaker 4>kept up his hot streak that he'd kicked off the

0:59:42.876 --> 0:59:46.796
<v Speaker 4>year before on the Let's Dance LP with his glossy

0:59:46.956 --> 0:59:51.516
<v Speaker 4>eighty four single Blue Gene, a number eight hit in November.

0:59:52.316 --> 0:59:56.916
<v Speaker 4>Even some of the apparent young'uns were older than they looked.

0:59:57.316 --> 1:00:01.196
<v Speaker 4>Two men who both turned thirty five in nineteen eighty

1:00:01.236 --> 1:00:05.836
<v Speaker 4>four had each just recorded his biggest, most hit packed

1:00:05.876 --> 1:00:11.316
<v Speaker 4>album ever. Lionel Ritchie, whose CA slowed Down LP produced

1:00:11.476 --> 1:00:33.196
<v Speaker 4>five top ten hits, including two number ones, and Bruce Springsteen,

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<v Speaker 4>who's born in the USA, would produce a record seven

1:00:37.556 --> 1:00:41.636
<v Speaker 4>top ten hits across nineteen eighty four, eighty five and

1:00:41.796 --> 1:00:42.756
<v Speaker 4>eighty six.

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<v Speaker 5>USA US.

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<v Speaker 4>For Bruce, the only bad news was none of those

1:00:57.636 --> 1:01:00.956
<v Speaker 4>seven hits reached number one on the Hot one hundred,

1:01:01.556 --> 1:01:04.876
<v Speaker 4>but several veterans did go all the way on the

1:01:04.916 --> 1:01:08.876
<v Speaker 4>big chart, along with avatars of the new pop from

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<v Speaker 4>George to Madonna, Duran, Duran to Wham. Let's spend part

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<v Speaker 4>two of this show walking through all of these number

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<v Speaker 4>one hits coming up. In part two, we take a

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<v Speaker 4>spin through the twenty songs that reached number one on

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<v Speaker 4>the Hot one hundred in nineteen eighty four. They embody

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<v Speaker 4>all the hallmarks that made eighty four pop's greatest year.

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<v Speaker 4>They were cinematic and charismatic, ballads and bops, old school

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<v Speaker 4>and next wave. And the only artist who repeats is

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<v Speaker 4>let's call him the kid who maybe was just too bold.

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<v Speaker 4>Broken Record listeners, thanks for listening to part one. You

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<v Speaker 4>can listen to part two right now. Just find Hit

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<v Speaker 4>Parade in your favorite podcast app. Thanks to everyone at

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<v Speaker 4>Broken Record or the chance to share this look at

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<v Speaker 4>an amazing year for pop. Our show was written, edited,

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<v Speaker 4>and narrated by Chris Molanfy That's Me. My producer is

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin Bendis. Derek john is Executive producer of Narrative Podcasts,

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for listening, and I look forward to leading the

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<v Speaker 4>hit parade back your way. Until then, keep on marching

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<v Speaker 4>on the one. I'm Chris molanfy