Speaker 1: Yo, what's that in the yard. It's Mario. Check me
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Speaker 1: My man, come on a long time, man, even though
Speaker 1: you've been doing this ship too long, you already know.
Speaker 2: Man, you man, I'm so good, bro, I'm so blessed, man,
Speaker 2: I'm so I'm just I'm lit right now.
Speaker 3: I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: It's a lot going on, team winning, we were moving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've been love working. It's the output
Speaker 1: of music, thank you. You've been putting out music, consistently,
Speaker 1: putting out quality music, which you've always done throughout your career.
Speaker 1: But I just, you know, I feel like you've just
Speaker 1: been on your ship bro, the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: Like, no, definitely, it's definitely been like a you know,
Speaker 2: a building brick brick by brick process, you know, to
Speaker 2: a bigger picture that we have in terms of just
Speaker 2: like read resurfacing the brand fully you know of Mario.
Speaker 1: Do you kind of look at like what happened because
Speaker 1: I feel like when I think of the pandemic, I
Speaker 1: think of verses, and when I think of verses, I
Speaker 1: think of a few things. I think a Jadakiss showing
Speaker 1: people that you really got to be able to rap, right,
Speaker 1: And then I think about you showing people, no, you
Speaker 1: got to be able to sing if you can hang
Speaker 1: with me, like for real scene like you you smoked
Speaker 1: the Marion and that versus respectful because Mario's a legend,
Speaker 1: but you smoked them. Obviously you gotta hear records, but
Speaker 1: you also were like there's no antics involved. Like I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say, raw, bro, it's raw. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's talent the same way I came in
Speaker 1: the game. You know what I'm saying, the same one.
Speaker 2: I'm just refined, you know what I'm saying, the same
Speaker 2: young dude y'all fell in love with singing justin friend
Speaker 2: and break my head. You're like, yo, why why park kid?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It's just refined, man, And
Speaker 2: I think Versus just really gave me a platform to
Speaker 2: remind people what that frequency is.
Speaker 1: You look at that moment, it's kind of like because
Speaker 1: you were of course at the time you were still
Speaker 1: doing your thing, But like, do you think that that
Speaker 1: was a very pivotal moment in terms of just reminding
Speaker 1: people like, hey, don't forget I'm here, Like.
Speaker 2: Of course, because it's so many eyes anytime you get
Speaker 2: you know, I think it was the biggest versus like
Speaker 2: in terms of viewers ship.
Speaker 1: I think it was the biggest one.
Speaker 2: And I mean anytime time you get that many people
Speaker 2: in one space and you're able to shine, it's a
Speaker 2: big look for you, and it shifts like people's awareness
Speaker 2: of what you're up to, you know, even though they
Speaker 2: know who you are.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just awareness thing.
Speaker 2: But I think it was like, yeah, it put me
Speaker 2: back into a mental space of art, like it's like
Speaker 2: now it's time to like really dive in and start
Speaker 2: getting back to the.
Speaker 1: Music, you know.
Speaker 3: And then since then it's just been you know, ongoing.
Speaker 1: Has your creative process throughout the years changed in terms
Speaker 1: of like when you're in the studio, how you're writing,
Speaker 1: maybe the environment you're in like that was it evolved
Speaker 1: like to where you are now for example with main one.
Speaker 2: Right for you outside it's I don't even know what
Speaker 2: was it like a Friday or Saturday, like me, Andy, Dre, London.
Speaker 1: The whole gang was there. It was a great time.
Speaker 2: It was it was we outside, Tiger was outside, and
Speaker 2: then we literally just go back to the studio.
Speaker 1: Mike's in the room, WAPs everywhere.
Speaker 2: If you listen to his second verse, you're going to
Speaker 2: hear like girls laughing. It was just And normally when
Speaker 2: I record, I'm in a booth or sometimes I have
Speaker 2: it out there because I engineered myself. But like when
Speaker 2: I'm working with people, I'm like, I don't need my
Speaker 2: shit to sound spectacular, so I'm you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put my shit in the booth. But it was just
Speaker 2: one of them, and that those types.
Speaker 1: Of moments show you that you don't have to be perfect.
Speaker 2: Perfection is what you focus on after you get the votes,
Speaker 2: and you need to perfect it, but like the actual
Speaker 2: creative process does not have to be perfect.
Speaker 1: I feel like something just magic. Magic is magic. Some
Speaker 1: artists outthink themselves for your process. I've been there and
Speaker 1: then we don't get the music right and then it
Speaker 1: never comes out, and then that's different. Still don't have
Speaker 1: the detox.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's funny. That's different though, Like I
Speaker 2: understand that. It's like you want to when you're talking
Speaker 2: about somebody like Dre, Like that's like that's a lot
Speaker 2: of pressure, Like you want to make sure you're doing
Speaker 2: your best, your best work right, and especially if you're
Speaker 2: not releasing consistently, it gets harder and harder. The longer
Speaker 2: you wait to release, the harder it gets to pick
Speaker 2: that perfect record or that perfect project. And so I've
Speaker 2: just been taking chances lately and just having fun. I
Speaker 2: just feel like I'm having fun again, like most important.
Speaker 1: Funny probably got into it. It's just fun exactly now
Speaker 1: it's been it's been dope to see for you.
Speaker 2: We've been getting singles. Yeah, is there an album on
Speaker 2: the way. It's definitely an album on the way. Okay,
Speaker 2: I haven't started it yet. I mean I got over
Speaker 2: two thousand and three thousand records in a hard drive,
Speaker 2: but Jesus, I don't feel like I started on the
Speaker 2: album yet. Like the Tupac of R and B with
Speaker 2: your unreleased ship.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I was just my boy. My DJ was telling me.
Speaker 2: He was like, YO, just send me all your records
Speaker 2: and let me put together an.
Speaker 1: Album, Like let me seek with I was like, that
Speaker 1: could be fun. Actually, I could be fun.
Speaker 2: That could be dope, you know what I'm saying. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't started on the project yet. So
Speaker 2: there's gonna be one more single after this one, and
Speaker 2: then there's gonna be tour single, another single, tour, one
Speaker 2: more single, and then a project. Like I'm really sit
Speaker 2: down to work on music, so tell me about the tour.
Speaker 2: So the tour. Neo hit me a couple of months ago,
Speaker 2: you know, He's like, I'm doing this tour. He's one
Speaker 2: of my last major projects. I'm putting out on a tour.
Speaker 2: I want you to be on this Champagne and Roses
Speaker 2: tour with me. I was like, all right, it's a
Speaker 2: short tour. It's short and sweet, but it's fired me
Speaker 2: and him and Robin think. I feel like we all
Speaker 2: have overlapping audiences for sure, And I just feel like
Speaker 2: it's a lot of classics records being sung on that tour,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's a great army tour.
Speaker 1: So and all all of you guys that think are single, right, No, No,
Speaker 1: it's actually the opposite. I don't know. Outside though, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to, like I don't know Neo's business, but
Speaker 1: I know we got divorced recently. And then I think
Speaker 1: Robert Man, Neo. Man. All I'm saying is that those
Speaker 1: those listen, those backstage outside, man, we outside and it's lit.
Speaker 1: Life is good man.
Speaker 2: I think like I think when it comes to like
Speaker 2: being an artist and being in relationship, I'm private with
Speaker 2: my ship. I just I don't want people to see
Speaker 2: when I fuck up.
Speaker 1: So you're private, you're in a committee.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that I'm private with my life
Speaker 2: because if I fuck up.
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody to know. I respect that, and
Speaker 1: then I'm not about to put me on like trade
Speaker 1: room or whatever. Well you have to have that. Did
Speaker 1: you see God bless the soul man shot out a
Speaker 1: little meat man he got costs ring cam which I
Speaker 1: won't suck up. Did you see like cheat h Did
Speaker 1: you see what happened with little meetings man? He had
Speaker 1: to see the invisible groceries. I saw the invisible groceries. Man.
Speaker 2: I think that somebody what happened was because this happened
Speaker 2: to me before.
Speaker 1: What happened was somebody.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Photo shop the groceries out
Speaker 3: of his hand.
Speaker 1: You're probably right, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had a grocery and like listens like nah man to
Speaker 1: find groceries, Like maybe he had a candy bar in
Speaker 1: his pocket that he was helping that young lady obviously
Speaker 1: his cousin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Summer Walker Man's he's a legend. She's
Speaker 2: she's fired me. She's a young goat. You know, he
Speaker 2: doing his thing. It's it's stuff out here.
Speaker 1: I don't know you I love Yeah. I watched it
Speaker 1: a few times. I haven't watched it. I haven't gotten
Speaker 1: into it. I don't watch a lot of TV like
Speaker 1: that so fun. I ain't got no watch TV like you.
Speaker 1: All Right, it's hard.
Speaker 2: For me to like sit and binge watch anything. Bro
Speaker 2: right now, I'm like so like in this mode of
Speaker 2: like all right create Yeah, just like just working literally
Speaker 2: on the road all the time. Every weekend I'm out
Speaker 2: of tail. If I'm not out of town, I'm like
Speaker 2: doing some other ship to prepare for something else.
Speaker 1: Like it's just you know, I don't really have time
Speaker 1: to watch TV. What's the last show you did? Binge watch?
Speaker 1: The last show I did been watched? Was you? I
Speaker 1: like crazy ship? Some crazy shit.
Speaker 2: I like twisted dark ship that has something some beautiful
Speaker 2: like silver lining in between it.
Speaker 1: I just like that because it's not my life. Have
Speaker 1: you ever been you level obsessed with a female in
Speaker 1: your life every time?
Speaker 2: Well not, I'm a I'm an obsessive type of dude.
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna lie like I like, I obsessed over what
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: Not unhealthy, unhealthy. You're not like out here murdering people.
Speaker 2: Nah, get away with it. But if like, at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, I'm obsessive about what I like
Speaker 2: for sure guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's a that's a wild show. And then
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy if you ever I don't know
Speaker 1: if any of your female friends are into these true,
Speaker 1: true detective type shows like The Fucking First, Like my
Speaker 1: wife is into these murder mystery like documentary shows that
Speaker 1: are on Hulu. Yeah, it's all that gets played at
Speaker 1: my house. And I just feel like it's always women
Speaker 1: getting away with killing their husband, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: are you what are we doing here? Are you trying
Speaker 1: to apply something? What's what the fuck's going on here?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's crazy. So obviously you
Speaker 1: and Tiger recorded this together. Yeah, yeah, we was. We
Speaker 1: was in a lab, Wayne getting involved. Where's the Wayne?
Speaker 1: Do you send it out? Obviously? Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we were just discussing different different features and bro
Speaker 2: Ak is like, yo, ship, what about Wayne?
Speaker 3: And I was like, Yo, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna text him because I was like, I just
Speaker 2: wanted it to feel like I wanted somebody gody on it.
Speaker 2: You feel like me and Tiger cool, like I want
Speaker 2: somebody if we do a third person, that got to
Speaker 2: be something like.
Speaker 3: I could goat gotta be a goat and man, So
Speaker 3: I text Wayne, I send it to him. Man, shit,
Speaker 3: he sent it back like four five days and it
Speaker 3: was up from there.
Speaker 1: That's a great turnaround. Yeah, I think it was. Was
Speaker 1: it longer than that? It's about four five days.
Speaker 2: I don't think he like, I think he's just so
Speaker 2: he impossible with this ship, like you mean, he's just
Speaker 2: I don't even think he writes lyrics now, he just
Speaker 2: goes he's one of them guys.
Speaker 1: Was this a swapper? Did you have to pay Wayne
Speaker 1: Hawes that work? Man?
Speaker 2: You know, business is business, but it's also love involved,
Speaker 2: you feel me?
Speaker 1: So he could use you on the Carter seventeen or whatever.
Speaker 1: Be fire Carter, I'll be down for sure. We're waiting
Speaker 1: on the Carter six. Let's go Carter fial talent. We
Speaker 1: all shot too. Weezy Man. Talk about your writing process though,
Speaker 1: are you writing down? Are you going in? Are you
Speaker 1: doing the melody first, plugging the lyrics later? This My
Speaker 1: writing process varies.
Speaker 2: It depends, like if I'm on the depression, I'm working
Speaker 2: with another artist, I'm moving. However, as you move, like
Speaker 2: if we're moving fast, we write like we like with
Speaker 2: this record, we were just going back and forth onlines,
Speaker 2: back and forth, back and forth like older versions of
Speaker 2: the record. There's different We're singing and he's rapping in
Speaker 2: different places, like it's a different but we's going back
Speaker 2: and forth with this record. But usually I do my
Speaker 2: melodies first, like I do. I like to do my
Speaker 2: melody all the way through. It might have some words
Speaker 2: here and there for like just something some spitball shit,
Speaker 2: But most of the time I do my melodies first
Speaker 2: and then I go back and then get the lyrics. Oh,
Speaker 2: I might just live with the melody for a minute,
Speaker 2: let it sit, and then let the concept come.
Speaker 1: I mean, the melody is like really like low key
Speaker 1: the most important part where it comes a hit record,
Speaker 1: Like you're not humming the lyrics, you're humming the melody.
Speaker 2: You definitely humming the melody. But what you say hit,
Speaker 2: you didn't say timeless record.
Speaker 1: So you're right. It's a difference between a hit and
Speaker 1: a timeless record. Like I mean, like, the lyrics are
Speaker 1: very important, but the melody has to be there otherwise,
Speaker 1: you know, Cannabis would be like the biggest artists of
Speaker 1: all time because he's a lyrical assassin. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Not good what you're saying.
Speaker 2: The melodies definitely definitely important for sure, But I feel
Speaker 2: like hits is like you could have a hit that
Speaker 2: don't have the greatest lyrics, but it's a hit for
Speaker 2: right now.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you're a little drunk after the club. Little little
Speaker 1: little whiskey. They could happen. It's happened at me at least.
Speaker 2: Yea that happens to me in the past. I stopped drinking.
Speaker 2: I stopped drinking four months ago.
Speaker 3: Happens in the past, but it's still it still work out.
Speaker 1: But it works enough. You just you just gotta have it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Your shit gotta be feel me, so that even when
Speaker 2: it ain't all the way, it's still doing well.
Speaker 1: Not everyone's blessed like that, but everyone's at the doubt
Speaker 1: like you, sir.
Speaker 2: At the same time, it's like it's like, yo, I
Speaker 2: promise you like I never I don't think I ever
Speaker 2: tried anything that makes me last long, and no ship
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: But you never had a gas station pill or a honeypacker. Nah, bro,
Speaker 1: shit scare me. I'm like, what have you? Take one
Speaker 1: of them shits and your ship is fucked up for life.
Speaker 1: I've never had one either, just like it just looked colorful,
Speaker 1: and they just look like some I got this friend,
Speaker 1: his name is Silvan Marshall, and he always has these
Speaker 1: blue rhino pills everywhere we're seeing them ships. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: also kind of looks like a blue rhino. Oh, he's
Speaker 1: right there. That's Sylvan crazy crazy. No, I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask you what made you stop drinking?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Ship?
Speaker 2: Just knowing this run was about to go in and
Speaker 2: I was going out all the time, And you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So like, I look at it like
Speaker 2: I have to sacrifice. I can't do everything. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's hard to say no too because
Speaker 2: you're doing Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Because I
Speaker 2: have to preserve myself. I mean, I know the run
Speaker 2: I'm trying to go on. I like the goals, so like,
Speaker 2: I just like, you know what, I'm gonna cut this out.
Speaker 2: I got my other little little tricks that I do,
Speaker 2: But like the drinking part, I.
Speaker 1: Could have no moracle. And then also it's like, obviously
Speaker 1: I was a lot of calories. It's like unneeded, bro,
Speaker 1: And you're about to feel like shit the next day,
Speaker 1: and you're about to go on the road. You want
Speaker 1: to be a fucking straight, chiseled up br for the road.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely about to get right, but I just like
Speaker 2: I feel like shit the next day.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Some people can go crazy like that and be like, Nigga,
Speaker 2: we're up at nine o'clock. Tell me about your relationship
Speaker 2: with psychedelics, man, I have a long standing relationship with
Speaker 2: plant medicine. I don't like to disrespect them my calling
Speaker 2: them psychedelicska because some people take that role.
Speaker 1: I call it plant medicine, plant medicine.
Speaker 2: I just respect. I feel like there's so many different
Speaker 2: healing properties in plant medicine. You talk about shrooms, you
Speaker 2: talk about paod I, d MT all day. I definitely
Speaker 2: think it's not something you take every day.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Shrooms you can, but sometimes you micro those every day,
Speaker 2: right Proctive the other ones is like, you're not gonna
Speaker 2: do d every day. If you want to sit with
Speaker 2: yourself and you want to kind of see yourself in
Speaker 2: super present moment outside of time and space. Like for me,
Speaker 2: I think taking plant medicine reminds you where you who
Speaker 2: you are, beyond the physical.
Speaker 1: Right and and therapy. It could also be therapy.
Speaker 2: It's deep therapy, deep therapy with yourself that nobody else
Speaker 2: can help you with. You just have to be ready
Speaker 2: to face yourself. Honestly speaking, I wish that my mother
Speaker 2: would have taken ayahuasca or some of these plant medicine.
Speaker 1: It would helped it with her addiction. I'm sure one
Speaker 1: thousand I feel the same way about people known that
Speaker 1: I would have. That's something I definitely would have. There's
Speaker 1: people in my life who like I was growing up with,
Speaker 1: like my family members, and I'm like, damn, like if
Speaker 1: I had to, you know, I got family members of
Speaker 1: overdose and been through all.
Speaker 2: That shit too, So it's like damn, Like I just think,
Speaker 2: right now, even if you don't take medicine, right now
Speaker 2: is the time to just expand your horizons as a being.
Speaker 2: You know, we are faced we in a spiritual war
Speaker 2: right now, so it's time to like really tap in
Speaker 2: with yourself on a whole other level. Because life ain't
Speaker 2: gonna get easier if you don't start to understand who
Speaker 2: you are.
Speaker 1: Well, they just decriminalized it in Oakland, San Francisco, obviously, Oregon, Washington, Canada,
Speaker 1: but I think the whole state of California's coming soon.
Speaker 1: I think therapeutic geta therapeutic purposes because people who have
Speaker 1: PTSD been in the military.
Speaker 3: Shout out to all the veterans, man, they could really
Speaker 3: get some one of my home.
Speaker 1: There's even like MDMA therapy, you know, so there's definitely
Speaker 1: a lot. Like I have a friend of mine who
Speaker 1: is probably the biggest degenerate I top five I've ever
Speaker 1: met in my life. And this dude did he went
Speaker 1: to Malibu and he did two days of ayahuasca. Wow,
Speaker 1: And it was like it was almost like a he said,
Speaker 1: it was like thirty years of therapy, Yeah, wrapped up
Speaker 1: in a two days. Because that's the what happens is
Speaker 1: that we hold so much trauma in our and our
Speaker 1: tissue and our poems and where because with vibrational beings,
Speaker 1: these things sit there and they don't leave until we
Speaker 1: work them out, and they're suppressed.
Speaker 2: You don't even you might not even know they even
Speaker 2: know they're there, right, and so when you do these
Speaker 2: plant medicines, what happens is it goes in and literally
Speaker 2: vibrationally breaks things up and opens you up, opens your
Speaker 2: pineal gland, opens you up so you can see and
Speaker 2: fill everything. That's why some people they have trips that
Speaker 2: are like not as good because they're purging all of
Speaker 2: this shit right that they've been holding on for years
Speaker 2: and years and even past life traumas and all this
Speaker 2: type of shit.
Speaker 1: So it's really it's not a joke, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's not People think it's like a party thing,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, this is like some real medicine
Speaker 1: for real. Like it's some medicine for real, exactly exactly
Speaker 1: like I think of, like I just betting all shit
Speaker 1: going on and all these people over these I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: if they would just legalize some of this shit, it
Speaker 1: would like change a lot of people's lives, because I
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing with addiction is like the withdrawals,
Speaker 1: getting people off shit, getting people like disconnected.
Speaker 2: People want to people want that numbness. Some people want
Speaker 2: the numbness. Some people just want to do it for
Speaker 2: creative purposes. Some people are addicts to it some people.
Speaker 2: I just think people would like to sometimes have some
Speaker 2: type of escape.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the old news to me in
Speaker 3: my opinion.
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree too. Listen, I'm nobody. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm watching a cartoon. I feel like they're preparing
Speaker 1: us for something a little bit though.
Speaker 2: But the Hebrew word for leon is a being of light,
Speaker 2: is even involved being, you know, So it's like we
Speaker 2: are aliens.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like if you if you understand what's happening, if
Speaker 2: you really study. I mean all of this to make
Speaker 2: people just want to study everything, study everything you can
Speaker 2: so that you'll see that this movie that they're trying
Speaker 2: to play for you is not real, and this shit
Speaker 2: is all bullshit, and it's just I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: just so obvious.
Speaker 3: We are aliens, we're here.
Speaker 1: What do you think is you're calling Mario outside of music.
Speaker 1: I'm talking twenty thirty years from now if we could
Speaker 1: remember you.
Speaker 2: Not saying I don't believe in other entities that have
Speaker 2: been here and are here in the other off planet.
Speaker 3: But I don't believe how they're trying to depict. They
Speaker 3: actually downgrading what's actually happening.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They're giving us the diet version.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, they're giving us the sugar. You want
Speaker 1: to tap.
Speaker 2: Into off planet energies, you can do that yourself. You
Speaker 2: don't need the government to do it.
Speaker 1: Just get to my washings. Have you done DMT? Yes? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's it? Fun? Is fifteen minutes right there?
Speaker 2: Like eight minor least of eight to ten minutes. I
Speaker 2: was having sex. While I was doing it, I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna lie. I was like fully awake, like I'm bro.
Speaker 1: Sex on GMT. Yes, what's that like? Super? Like you're
Speaker 1: you don't really feel the physical act of it.
Speaker 2: But because it's your your body is not really you
Speaker 2: don't feel your body right, you feel everything you everything
Speaker 2: is just there's no separation, wow from what I experienced.
Speaker 2: And yeah, but I was still very much so in
Speaker 2: my body and very much so in my life body.
Speaker 1: So it's just like, yeah, I've I've yet. It was interesting,
Speaker 1: I've yet to do DMT. I'm a little i haven't
Speaker 1: done it in a while. I'm a little intimidated because
Speaker 1: I have a friend who does it, and he'll do
Speaker 1: it once or twice a year and he freebases it,
Speaker 1: so he does it like where he does it. I've
Speaker 1: been there when he did it, and I got sketched.
Speaker 2: I think that when you take plant medicine, depending on
Speaker 2: where you are spiritually, where you are awareness wise, and consciously,
Speaker 2: it's going to.
Speaker 1: Affect you different every time. Yeah. So he like was
Speaker 1: gone for like about fifteen minutes and came back and
Speaker 1: was like what he remembered because he's like, there's just
Speaker 1: too much shit coming in for me to like really
Speaker 1: remember everything. But it was like it felt like I
Speaker 1: was going for like six months and it was like
Speaker 1: going to work and living a life like in fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes I was like, this is crazy, Like I don't
Speaker 1: want to be somewhere for six months. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: anytime now that I do anything. I always said intentions now,
Speaker 1: but I do. I think intention is important because even
Speaker 1: if you're going if you're if you're doing it psilocybin,
Speaker 1: your intention is important because you could be if you're
Speaker 1: at the club and you're drinking and you're like, let's
Speaker 1: do some shrooms while I'm drinking whiskey shots and to
Speaker 1: keep every time, it's chemistry.
Speaker 2: Every time you're doing different things, you're adding a different
Speaker 2: vibrational response to it. Yeah, you're changing the state of
Speaker 2: it by mixing it with something else, so you want
Speaker 2: to have a different reaction. It's just like when you
Speaker 2: walk in certain rooms, your energy can shift the room
Speaker 2: based upon your because everybody has to macnt it Fiel
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty degrees around them and whatever's in
Speaker 2: that field. It could be the person you was with
Speaker 2: last night, it could be it's so much shit going on.
Speaker 1: You gotta be selective for you let around you man.
Speaker 2: Or maybe you want that energy and you want to
Speaker 2: use that energy. I just think you just have to
Speaker 2: be aware. Whatever you're calling about whatever you want to happen,
Speaker 2: good or bad, whatever it's your world, do as you will.
Speaker 1: But you know, just know, speaking of the question, I
Speaker 1: was asking you, what do you think your calling is
Speaker 1: that's outside of music? My calling like just you know,
Speaker 1: if we're talking about I mean, I think it's to
Speaker 1: connect with like minded individuals who.
Speaker 2: Know who they are and has a sense of awareness
Speaker 2: above whatever's being you know, presented to them, so that
Speaker 2: you can create solutions for humanity. We can create solutions
Speaker 2: for humanity that may not be easy to do. I
Speaker 2: think that there's definitely a calling for all soul families
Speaker 2: right now. Like your soul family could be people that
Speaker 2: you meet or run into and y'all just feel like
Speaker 2: this connection with each other that's like protective or like yo,
Speaker 2: like I just trust this person, Like we have same
Speaker 2: ideals in life.
Speaker 3: We may be in different fields.
Speaker 2: I got got friends who are in completely different fields
Speaker 2: of music that I connect with that are just you know,
Speaker 2: incredibly powerful people and have special gifts you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, of healing or they may be great at
Speaker 2: you know, connecting, connecting the dots when it comes to
Speaker 2: solutions for neighborhoods or or inner cities.
Speaker 1: It's just so much.
Speaker 2: And so I think right now the soul families are connecting,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Outside of us getting money
Speaker 2: and hustling like whatever it is your your superpowers are,
Speaker 2: there's people out there that supposed to be on your
Speaker 2: team to do whatever it needs to be done when
Speaker 2: the time is I I think over the next few years,
Speaker 2: we're going to see a lot of shifts in consciousness,
Speaker 2: right and because right now the everything is splitting, Like
Speaker 2: so realities are completely splitting to whereas though you can
Speaker 2: be living your chosen reality and another person can be
Speaker 2: living their chosen reality and they will not overlap, and
Speaker 2: y'all can be.
Speaker 1: In the same space.
Speaker 2: Facts you feel me And so when you understand that,
Speaker 2: you really can live the life you want to live
Speaker 2: and not worry about being affected by all this shit
Speaker 2: because it's not real.
Speaker 1: I think too, like your story is very relatable to
Speaker 1: what a lot of young men and kids are going
Speaker 1: through in today's world because addiction levels and having parents
Speaker 1: that you know, my son went through that. You know,
Speaker 1: my son's mom was fucking dope fiend out for sure,
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, but I feel like you have a
Speaker 1: story that like a lot of people can like pull
Speaker 1: like real inspiration from like that, Hey, like you know,
Speaker 1: shit could be bad, but like that doesn't mean that,
Speaker 1: like you know, you still can't get to it, like
Speaker 1: you can. You got to overcome. You can overcome your surroundings,
Speaker 1: you can overcome your trauma, you can overcome your heart.
Speaker 2: You're meant to overcome it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like you meant to overcome everything that you you see
Speaker 2: or witness as a struggle or something that's trying to
Speaker 2: hold you down. I don't think anything is trying to
Speaker 2: hold us down that is in the unsame room. It's
Speaker 2: the things that are in the same realm quote unquote
Speaker 2: that's actually trying to hold you down and make you
Speaker 2: think a certain way. Because everything that you can't see
Speaker 2: is actually working for you.
Speaker 1: That's real. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You got you know what I'm saying, You got allies
Speaker 2: that you can't see. And I think that that when
Speaker 2: you think like that and you feel like that, you
Speaker 2: believe that you're gonna get that support, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I feel like I've always believed that,
Speaker 2: even growing up, I always believe that I was born
Speaker 2: with that in me. So that's why I feel like
Speaker 2: I've been able to sustain without family, without you know,
Speaker 2: certain people that were protected.
Speaker 1: I always felt protected. I still do.
Speaker 2: Even feel like I got an army around me at
Speaker 2: all times that you can't see.
Speaker 3: I just I feel it. I know it's there for you.
Speaker 1: I gotta ask which version, because you obviously have one
Speaker 1: of the biggest records of all time. Do we like
Speaker 1: the remix to Let Me Love You or the YOG?
Speaker 1: Which one are you taking?
Speaker 3: I mean, I like the O G.
Speaker 1: I like them both both. You know I'm an OG guy,
Speaker 1: But I mean, listen, Jada kiss on the reads killed him.
Speaker 1: It was t I Jada is classic. I was like
Speaker 1: with Jada was happening on all the R and B
Speaker 1: remixes this shit.
Speaker 2: Jada still he wanted the Coders Man, he wanted a
Speaker 2: coldis on this shit.
Speaker 1: I'm I like the OG Do you feel like? Because
Speaker 1: there was like this big discussion, which I didn't think
Speaker 1: was necessarily a fair one understood what did he was
Speaker 1: doing because I think Diddy is an R and B head,
Speaker 1: and didd he's also working on R and B album,
Speaker 1: so I understand why he said R and B was dead,
Speaker 1: But I mean, obviously I don't agree with him. I
Speaker 1: don't even think he might all the way agree with
Speaker 1: himself on that. But do you feel like R and
Speaker 1: B's finally kind of because now when I listen to
Speaker 1: the radio or I play songs on the radio, listen,
Speaker 1: but like you know, I think of a song last year,
Speaker 1: like money Longs record is like a that's a real
Speaker 1: R and B record that like went top forty, that
Speaker 1: went like rhythm like that to me, like is like
Speaker 1: a sign of like, okay, like R and b's kind
Speaker 1: of coming back in terms of like it being more
Speaker 1: popular music, not to say it's ever gone anywhere, especially.
Speaker 2: You mean the actual popularity of it. There's so many
Speaker 2: different styles of R and B there.
Speaker 1: Is, there's like sub genres of R and B.
Speaker 2: Sub genres, and I don't think it's ever really died.
Speaker 2: I think, like you said, it's just what's what became popular.
Speaker 1: It's I mean quo too, right.
Speaker 2: The play listens and the radios were more condensed, so
Speaker 2: you had everything kind of playing in the same spaces,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But then as as the
Speaker 2: digital crusade happened, earlier. When you start to compartmentalize things,
Speaker 2: now you put this in this compartment, it makes it
Speaker 2: easier for one genre to stand in front, right. So,
Speaker 2: but also it's just a lot more hip hop than
Speaker 2: being you know what I'm saying, pushed. But I think
Speaker 2: a lot of the conversation about R and B being
Speaker 2: dead was just to create dialogue.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was. I think that's just like,
Speaker 1: I think that's really what is doing. And it worked,
Speaker 1: and I'm happy he did that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He's a pioneer, He's a goat in this shit. So
Speaker 2: who better to do it?
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Speaker 1: you had to make an R and B supergroup with
Speaker 1: two other singers, who would you put in your supergroup?
Speaker 1: One album? Your T T what was the T t
Speaker 1: G T T G G? How many? How many genuine?
Speaker 1: Two more? Three? Three? You gotta pick two other guys
Speaker 1: to be in a supergroup.
Speaker 3: With crazy.
Speaker 1: Bro. That's crazy, Like I'm mad to say Usher and
Speaker 1: c B. I mean, that's that's crazy. I'm mad have
Speaker 1: to say that this is like, I mean, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: those are the two right answers.
Speaker 2: We say R and B and then like generations like
Speaker 2: I feel like that's like Usher is gonna grab a
Speaker 2: little bit older than me. Yeah, CB's gonna grab mine
Speaker 2: and younger. And then I'm like in the middle grabbing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But it's the text, the
Speaker 1: voice text in the jail verse from R Kelly. Listen,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to see you.
Speaker 2: I bump his ship every fucking day, every fucking day.
Speaker 1: I am very listen. I am not ashamed to say
Speaker 1: I can separate.
Speaker 2: The art from the art comes to an artist who
Speaker 2: has been able to make every type of song and
Speaker 2: have every type.
Speaker 1: Of Half on a Baby.
Speaker 2: Man, Come on, man, I believe I can fly to
Speaker 2: half on a Baby to you know, he's just the goat.
Speaker 1: He's but you know, listen, it's him a rusher because
Speaker 1: I went to Usher show in Vegas. Have you seen
Speaker 1: his Vegas show? Of course, I'm just talking about But
Speaker 1: but you can't compare them to Bro.
Speaker 2: You can't compare Usher R Kelly in terms of being
Speaker 2: the goats of R and B because R Kelly his
Speaker 2: pen I agree his.
Speaker 1: R Kelly's got the greatest pen ever. Probably he wrote
Speaker 1: for Michael Jackson and wrote for hit like Baby, making
Speaker 1: songs pop records like a big record like but you
Speaker 1: know what, you know what R Kelly never got though,
Speaker 1: I don't know he never got like an o MG.
Speaker 1: He didn't really participate in that. He didn't come out
Speaker 1: in at time. Nobody I was gonna think about it
Speaker 1: right well, listen, I mean Usher came out ninety four weeks. No,
Speaker 1: but R Kelly was not. He was not incarcerated in
Speaker 1: twenty ten when every R and B artist was doing
Speaker 1: shitty ed M songs. Do you remember that era? Right?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: That don't count as cheap cold ship.
Speaker 3: I don't think it counts.
Speaker 1: Like when Neo and Pittbull were putting.
Speaker 2: Out I can't world, we can't have the Darby conversation
Speaker 2: at that point.
Speaker 1: That's out. So listen, I agree with you for this.
Speaker 1: I think R. Kelly is the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: But by king, in my opinion, I think when you
Speaker 1: factor in everything, okay, I give I gotta get it,
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be Usher. He gave me
Speaker 1: my flowers that the show shows. I just think Usher
Speaker 1: is like a like amazing. Not only is he got
Speaker 1: the classics, but he also they entertainment. Because I've seen
Speaker 1: ur Kelly live when I was a little kid. I
Speaker 1: saw him and I saw him in nas and it
Speaker 1: was great. It's different. I don't know, I think, but
Speaker 1: it was got to categorize it. I feel like R.
Speaker 1: Kelly was more like he was like more like when
Speaker 1: you watched him live, it was like kind of like
Speaker 1: watching a rapper. He had background dances right like as
Speaker 1: a performer, no fucking skates. Chris Brown's out here for superstar.
Speaker 1: He's a performer. He's like he's a pop R and B.
Speaker 1: He's an R and B superstar. We're talking about just
Speaker 1: R and B music. I have to crown R Kelly.
Speaker 1: I have to. I respect that, and I agree, and
Speaker 1: it's a lot. I mean, it's so many great artists.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think the three names that I
Speaker 1: mean and this is just speaking of somebody who was
Speaker 1: born in nineteen eighty seven. But then you got a
Speaker 1: crow CYB too. I got to listen. I was going
Speaker 1: to say the three Chris Brown usher ain't R Kelly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a Crowsey B Man Like he's a Aliol
Speaker 1: I think he's the most alien talented artist him ever.
Speaker 1: I think it's him and it's Jamie Fox because I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking talent. I'm not talking about music. I just
Speaker 1: mean talent inside of a human being. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Chris Brown can paint a mural on a building. He
Speaker 1: can dance, Yeah, maybe all time great dancer, him and
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. He could sing, he could write, he could
Speaker 1: wrap his ass off, he could act ish you know,
Speaker 1: he was all right, and then he could hoop, he
Speaker 1: could I mean, I mean listen. Then it's Jamie Fox
Speaker 1: who can do all that. And he's one of the
Speaker 1: greatest standup comedians of all time. Yeah, he's one of
Speaker 1: the greatest actors ever. Like, it's a lot of it's
Speaker 1: a lot of talent in our culture. Bro, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of talent. It's crazy. Would you would you ever
Speaker 1: do a biggest resident show residency show one day?
Speaker 2: Yes, I definitely would, for sure, because I just feel
Speaker 2: like there's so many pockets that I can go into.
Speaker 2: You know, I've done Broadway, I've done acting, I've toured,
Speaker 2: I mean, and when it comes to doing residencies, you
Speaker 2: really have time to put together a show and perfect it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like a real entertainment show. And when it comes to that, like,
Speaker 2: I love that space. So I definitely would and I
Speaker 2: would incorporate all of my talents in one.
Speaker 1: Show for sure. Can you tell me how how nervous
Speaker 1: were you the first time back in the day, because
Speaker 1: I was just talking to my boy and we were
Speaker 1: trying to go where we were talking about how Roxy
Speaker 1: and Big Tig are very slept on in terms of
Speaker 1: when we talk about the best host of in part
Speaker 1: because everyone says agam free and I'm like Roxy and
Speaker 1: Tick did their thing too. But how nervous were you
Speaker 1: the very first time going on one O six in Park?
Speaker 1: He said nervous? Like were you nervous? Like? What was
Speaker 1: that day like? Pulling up to one O six in Park?
Speaker 2: I think it's more anxious because it's your peers, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like one O six in.
Speaker 2: Part, I felt like I was going back to high
Speaker 2: school and seeing all my peers. You go in to audience,
Speaker 2: they got people your age.
Speaker 1: It was like he was in the crowd. It's like you.
Speaker 1: It feels like a party, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't nervous.
Speaker 2: It was just more anxious like and exciting and ship
Speaker 2: because it is like I don't even know if they
Speaker 2: have they don't have shows like that.
Speaker 1: They don't like I just watched a random performance pop
Speaker 1: up on my story of Ship was fun. Man.
Speaker 3: It was when you when you went to one O six,
Speaker 3: it was like a reunion.
Speaker 1: It was like an event. Do you remember when Genuine
Speaker 1: performed and they had to tate him and he was
Speaker 1: like that little as stage they did all of that
Speaker 1: stag like a little bigger than this table, right, crazy
Speaker 1: Man's classic. So main one is out, It's going crazy,
Speaker 1: It's featuring Tiger, It's it's featuring Lil Wayne. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna have any sort of obviously, like you got three
Speaker 1: thousand unreleased songs, so that's you know, it's crazy Jesus uh,
Speaker 1: you already have the next single? Pick though? Nah No,
Speaker 1: I don't have an pick.
Speaker 2: I like to stay fresh, bro, Like I'm going in
Speaker 2: the lab and cooking for that.
Speaker 3: But these next few shows I'm probably lacking in it.
Speaker 1: Just would you ever reunite with the Yeo Scott start
Speaker 1: here for sure?
Speaker 2: I talked to Scott to week back. We got records
Speaker 2: that could possibly be something. You know what I'm saying already,
Speaker 2: But we definitely tap him back in for sure.
Speaker 1: I'll just talk to a lot of cigarettes smoking that session,
Speaker 1: Scott Scott's he'll smoke down them SIGs and then he's
Speaker 1: a he's a you know what's crazy?
Speaker 2: Were he in the studio with me? He don't really
Speaker 2: he already smoke, he's but he don't. He'll go outside
Speaker 2: of the studio. No, no smoke outside cigarettes like that.
Speaker 1: I see him smoking weed. I don't smoke, and he'll
Speaker 1: smoke cigarettes. I don't see him smoked cigarette. George is
Speaker 1: sweetheart man, He's a great guy. Yeah. I can't wait
Speaker 1: for them to make the movie about his life Crazy
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be fucking sane.
Speaker 2: I don't even want it to be a movie. I
Speaker 2: wanted to be like an HBO Max original.
Speaker 1: It's so many legendary. I want fifty cent to be
Speaker 1: the executive producer. Like the Scott Storage story, I could
Speaker 1: be fire because he had sex with everybody first. Everybody
Speaker 1: like ray J did not hit it firstologies got Storage
Speaker 1: right away. Say some shit. So look the singles going crazy.
Speaker 1: Is there gonna be anything, uh visual wise coming with
Speaker 1: video just came out video just right now, So yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going up and then obviously album on the way.
Speaker 1: What made you get back with the major because you're
Speaker 1: obviously back, You're you're with Epic, which you know, you
Speaker 1: in a different capacity.
Speaker 2: You know, it's more like a partnership and really just
Speaker 2: you know, Sylvia Zeke, you know what I'm saying. We've
Speaker 2: been talking about, you know, working for a minute, and
Speaker 2: my business partner and d a K. Three sixty five management,
Speaker 2: like we we decided to collectively go there because you know,
Speaker 2: we've just been putting I just put a lot of
Speaker 2: working on the ground, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 2: just like learning the business aspect of this ship for
Speaker 2: like the last seven years in the independent space, right,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I just felt like it was time to
Speaker 2: have an addition to the team. I love it and
Speaker 2: I like the I like the house over there. I
Speaker 2: like who's there. You know what I'm saying, Except for.
Speaker 1: Yah, yah, y'all need to put some gloves on. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a good run. I'm excited now.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for you, man. But look the singles out,
Speaker 1: go crazy, go support it and then, uh, make sure
Speaker 1: you get tickets to go watch you Neo and Robin Thick. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: on tour up. It's going on. That's gonna be a
Speaker 1: fun content. Should be a lot of ladies in there.
Speaker 1: It has been every show. Yeah, every show. Go run
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