Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're partying like it's twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal in the Chris Westling podcast studio with my
Speaker 1: friend Patrick Claybon, Nick Shook in Cleveland, and Yes, super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty nine is set and it looks a whole
Speaker 1: lot like Super Bowl fifty seven.
Speaker 3: Chiefs Eagles.
Speaker 1: I guess we were always leading to this point, Patrick Claybon,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, He's inevitable and the Eagles are too good
Speaker 1: to be stopped.
Speaker 3: It's a rematch.
Speaker 4: It's a rematch, and of course it's Jalen Hurts lock screen.
Speaker 4: All these things that we're going to talk about from
Speaker 4: the Eagles having that disappointment, they're at super Bowl fifty seven.
Speaker 5: It's all coming back.
Speaker 4: The Eagles got there in a fashion that didn't leave
Speaker 4: a lot to you know.
Speaker 5: We'll talk about that.
Speaker 4: But this game between the Bills and the Chiefs a
Speaker 4: classic delivered once again Shook.
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely delivered. It's very fitting of this Bills in
Speaker 6: Chiefs rivalry. And I think we have to wait to
Speaker 6: find out just a moment to see how it ended.
Speaker 3: Yes, we know how it ended.
Speaker 1: We know how they all and what I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do is let any little minor rooting interests because we're
Speaker 1: all professionals here. We're not rooting for our picks. We're
Speaker 1: not rooting for something to just change. We're not rooting
Speaker 1: for our producer Eric Roberts. Okay, maybe maybe we are
Speaker 1: a little bit. But what we are seeing, especially in
Speaker 1: these Bills Chiefs playoffs games, and especially tonight in the
Speaker 1: AFC Championship at Arrowhead was excellent and everything that you
Speaker 1: could want in a conference championship.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Kansas City.
Speaker 7: I'm minute thirty five to go in the game.
Speaker 5: Chiefs lead thirty two to twenty nine. Long Counties are
Speaker 5: gonna throw it.
Speaker 7: They throw in the left flat cut.
Speaker 8: It's some JP run at the thirty first off the
Speaker 8: left sideline.
Speaker 3: I love you, saman Ja Pam.
Speaker 8: I remember when Brett Beach told me they picked him
Speaker 8: off into.
Speaker 3: Game at eighteen yards.
Speaker 5: I poured water on my head.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means, but I like it.
Speaker 3: It's the Samase p Ryan revenge game. What is he
Speaker 3: getting revenge for?
Speaker 1: I don't know, being stuffed in a major spot in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and then getting the ball for a
Speaker 1: different team years later.
Speaker 3: That's the revenge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he comes back, and that's why Mitch Holtzs's head
Speaker 4: was apparently on fire and he had to extinguish it.
Speaker 5: Not sure about that. We're gonna have to deal with
Speaker 5: that call, just like all of them, I guess, But.
Speaker 4: It was it was coming down to that moment where
Speaker 4: you wondered if the Kansas City Chiefs were gonna throw
Speaker 4: the ball. I felt like we're sitting there watching the game,
Speaker 4: Greg that the ball was gonna.
Speaker 5: Be in Mahomes' hands.
Speaker 4: If it was not absolutely lock solid an opportunity to
Speaker 4: throw the ball for the first down, he was probably
Speaker 4: gonna run it. Soma JP Ryan came across the field
Speaker 4: wide open like backs in the flat wide opened a
Speaker 4: lot late in that game, and that was a problem
Speaker 4: for the Kansas City Chiefs defense continually over the course
Speaker 4: of these sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds crazy, shook, but it's the little things
Speaker 1: in the last few minutes. It's the game management, and
Speaker 1: I think when you look at the two sides and
Speaker 1: how these fourth quarter drives ended on offense for each team,
Speaker 1: and the decision making for Andy Reid to throw the
Speaker 1: ball there like you did before they got the previous
Speaker 1: first down where Pacheco ends up going on abounds. It's
Speaker 1: total faith, it's total confidence in exactly what you're gonna
Speaker 1: do and everyone executing what you're gonna do. And I
Speaker 1: can't say the Bills really had that. There were times
Speaker 1: in this game I was like, are they hiding Josh Allen?
Speaker 1: And of course Josh Allen had his up, so he
Speaker 1: had his downs, and he did a lot of great
Speaker 1: things late in this game. And yet the Chiefs just
Speaker 1: the whole playbook, everything is open to them when it
Speaker 1: matters the most.
Speaker 6: And especially in clutch situations. That is the Chiefs m
Speaker 6: is going to the flats. I think back to the
Speaker 6: corn dog play in the Super Bowl last year. I
Speaker 6: think about the two plays that they ran where they
Speaker 6: actually ran the wrong direction one time two Super Bowls
Speaker 6: ago to beat the Eagles, one of those touchdown catches
Speaker 6: with Sky Moore. I think about the quick out to
Speaker 6: Tyreek Hill Chad Henny throws it on fourth down to
Speaker 6: beat the Browns and the divisional round back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 7: This is who the Chiefs are.
Speaker 6: So once again it was fitting that this time it
Speaker 6: was samajp Ryan in the flat for a huge first
Speaker 6: down to ice it for them. But it's all about
Speaker 6: what led up to that. It's about the Bills and
Speaker 6: their fourth down and five decision. It's about the fact
Speaker 6: that the Chiefs got down the field and we're able
Speaker 6: to take the lead. It's the back and forth affair
Speaker 6: that was the second half that made this such a
Speaker 6: great game that we're going to get into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you bringing up all those old plays. I
Speaker 1: think it's so natural when you're watching this Chiefs team
Speaker 1: to think about their long run that it's not all
Speaker 1: in a vacuum. And we will talk about this game
Speaker 1: shortly in a vacuum and kind of back up all
Speaker 1: those fourth down and fourth quarter decisions.
Speaker 3: But just from a big.
Speaker 1: Picture standpoint, I am struck by back to back weeks
Speaker 1: them beating Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, the two best
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL this year, and thinking about this
Speaker 1: stretch that these two teams specifically have had and how
Speaker 1: they've been shaped by the Chiefs. It's so unique that
Speaker 1: the Ravens have the most wins over a seven year
Speaker 1: stretch not to make a super Bowl. I mentioned all
Speaker 1: week how the Bills have made at least the divisional
Speaker 1: round five straight years, average of twelve wins a year,
Speaker 1: top five and point differential five straight years, and yet
Speaker 1: no Super Bowl appearance out of that. We actually have
Speaker 1: not really seen sustained excellence at this high level be
Speaker 1: pushed back over and over and over again.
Speaker 3: I know the Patriots did it.
Speaker 1: Somewhat, but not at this level, and that to me
Speaker 1: more than anything, because every year is different, every game
Speaker 1: is different. But more than anything, Mahomes, Read Spagnolo, Chris Jones,
Speaker 1: those four guys coming together finding a way to beat
Speaker 1: these truly great teams every single year, it's just remarkable.
Speaker 4: And the similarities, there's parallels for all these guys. Right,
Speaker 4: you have Patrick Mahomes, He's had Texas Tech. They're throwing
Speaker 4: the ball a whole lot. You know, he goes up
Speaker 4: against these teams where you know, we have the bene
Speaker 4: for the hindsight looking back, it's like, Ah, Texas Tech.
Speaker 4: You know, they gave Baker and Oklahoma a run, but
Speaker 4: he didn't really, he didn't really show up in the
Speaker 4: big moments. And Andy Reid is over there in Philadelphia
Speaker 4: and Ah, you know they were good, but in the
Speaker 4: big moments they didn't. He didn't really Spags had their
Speaker 4: run with the Rams. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 4: if he could get it done. But together, right, it
Speaker 4: tells the story of how those narratives collectively don't make
Speaker 4: any sense. And you've got Spags in position to have
Speaker 4: players like Chris Jones, players that have come through Trent McDuffie,
Speaker 4: like all of these guys that just make these plays
Speaker 4: because they have that talent and they have the ability
Speaker 4: and the wherewithal as well as the the cachet to
Speaker 4: send five, to send a corner blitz on fourth and five, right,
Speaker 4: to make these calls to throw the ball on third
Speaker 4: and nine, because that's Andy Reid, like, okay, Like if
Speaker 4: I mess up, if the play doesn't work out, where
Speaker 4: are you all going to do to me?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Like I'm Andy Reid right, so and do it And
Speaker 1: it all starts, of course though with Mahomes, and I
Speaker 1: think these last two weeks have been really excellent Mahomes games.
Speaker 1: His first five scrambles, I believe tonight all hit for
Speaker 1: first down.
Speaker 3: His success rate was through the roof.
Speaker 1: And it's the decision making, but it's also some great
Speaker 1: throws down the field to Worthy to Marquise Brownie, he
Speaker 1: didn't catch them all. But it's funny shook because if
Speaker 1: you if you look at like the last six weeks
Speaker 1: of the season, for instance, actually Patrick Mahomes has been
Speaker 1: out playing Josh Allen and has been out playing basically everyone.
Speaker 1: He's gotten back to the Patrick Mahomes that you want
Speaker 1: to see right when it matters.
Speaker 3: Of course, of course he has.
Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody knows that better than me.
Speaker 6: When I have to hear from people up you know,
Speaker 6: in my mentions the whole season.
Speaker 7: Mahomes doesn't even deserve to be in the top ten.
Speaker 7: You're not watching the game. Well, now, guess what.
Speaker 6: You've been forced to watch the game because there was
Speaker 6: two games on and one of them included him, and
Speaker 6: you all watched it, and you saw exactly what he's
Speaker 6: been doing over the last seven weeks, which is finding
Speaker 6: ways to lead his team to victory.
Speaker 7: That is a mark of excellence.
Speaker 6: It's not five hundred passing yards, but it's a mark
Speaker 6: of excellence. And in key moments like that, he goes
Speaker 6: on a bootleg and he's got a guy to dump
Speaker 6: it off to, he's got a running back to dump
Speaker 6: it off to, he's got worthy crossing the field that
Speaker 6: he throws two to set him up for the field goal.
Speaker 6: He's got all these situations where he could make a mistake,
Speaker 6: he could throw an errant pass, he could take a sack,
Speaker 6: which he did take a sack a couple times today,
Speaker 6: and you know it doesn't matter because he delivers, because
Speaker 6: he's been there before, and he's one of the best
Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the NFL. And he's the leader of a
Speaker 6: team that is having so much success that we are
Speaker 6: now not only comparing them to the Patriots, some are
Speaker 6: even considering them to have a better run than the Patriots.
Speaker 6: I mean, let's think about it. There's two teams that
Speaker 6: have stood in their way over since twenty nineteen. It's
Speaker 6: been the Cincinnati Bengals and the Champa Bay Buccaneers in
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 6: Otherwise, they've been here and I don't care if you're
Speaker 6: tired of it.
Speaker 7: You have to appreciate excellence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think of like specifically in this game,
Speaker 1: for instance, that worthy catch that he made that was
Speaker 1: so insane where he pulls the ball away. That was
Speaker 1: a crazy throw by Mahomes as he in the throw
Speaker 1: didn't end up getting that much attention, but as he's
Speaker 1: getting hit. There was another play where he just stayed
Speaker 1: very composed in the pocket before hitting on what was
Speaker 1: ultimately like a good blitz call by the Bills. So
Speaker 1: I thought he played really well. Now, Patrick, you mentioned
Speaker 1: the fourth down stop. Let's go back and talk about that.
Speaker 1: The Bills have the ball down three late in the game.
Speaker 1: They get the ball back with what three minutes and
Speaker 1: thirty seconds to go down three. At that point in
Speaker 1: the game, I thought it was a minor mire cle
Speaker 1: that the Bills had the ball in this position only
Speaker 1: down three. They forced the field goal after a big
Speaker 1: first down sack on Mahomes to get the field goal.
Speaker 1: And for all the mistakes at the Bills I thought
Speaker 1: made today, they'd fumbled a bunch of times, they missed
Speaker 1: two two point conversions, they had a fourth down stop
Speaker 1: earlier in the fourth quarter. Here they were with a
Speaker 1: chance to win the game. They get a quick first down,
Speaker 1: then they're almost at midfield the forty seven yard line.
Speaker 1: They get five yards on a third and ten to
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. They decide to go for it on fourth
Speaker 1: and five. Let's listen to the call, and.
Speaker 9: He brings Khalil Shakira and marsha orbet motion now peels
Speaker 9: back to the left.
Speaker 3: Since you're chasing Jeff Tallen, he.
Speaker 8: Throws it up for Crafts and the passes inter playing
Speaker 8: into playing off the arm of the would be receiver
Speaker 8: Tulgent Jentiede Chan Sau City has the second fourth down
Speaker 8: stop in this half.
Speaker 5: And it was a great call by Spags.
Speaker 4: It was a tough one for Osaire's Torrence, who ultimately
Speaker 4: wound up blocking nobody. Trip McDuffie blitzed from the corner.
Speaker 4: The only people that got blocked on the play were
Speaker 4: George Carloftis and Chris Jones, because both Trip McDuffie and
Speaker 4: Justin Reid came right through on Josh Allen and the
Speaker 4: Bills on Bill Barmell pointed it out on Blue Sky
Speaker 4: Shout out to Blue Skuy earlier tonight. The Bills had
Speaker 4: that fourth and two in Week eleven where they ran mesh.
Speaker 4: Josh Allen had a twenty six yard touchdown run, so
Speaker 4: they're essentially running a similar mesh here, but there's two
Speaker 4: guys directly on Josh Allen. Seconds after the ball is snapped.
Speaker 4: Brian Cook, though for the Chiefs, runs to cover grass
Speaker 4: instead of Dalton Kincaid setting up a great opportunity and
Speaker 4: incredible that Josh Allen even saw him. But Kinkaid picks
Speaker 4: up the ball late and it hits the surf. It's
Speaker 4: just a tough one.
Speaker 6: I have issues this play, okay issues from the perspective
Speaker 6: because look, it blows my mind. And I watched this
Speaker 6: with the Chiefs a lot in key situation and Steve
Speaker 6: Spagnolo is going to have his defense show blitz and
Speaker 6: nine times out of ten that blitz is coming. It
Speaker 6: might not be coming from the guys you expect, but
Speaker 6: there is going to be a blitz coming. So why
Speaker 6: on earth are you leaving Josh Allen in an empty backfield.
Speaker 7: As soon as I.
Speaker 6: Saw him go in orbit motion, I was like, they're
Speaker 6: cooked because that blitz is coming and they don't have
Speaker 6: enough guys to pick that up and they're not going
Speaker 6: to pass it off in time. So as soon as
Speaker 6: he gets a snap and the blitz is in his
Speaker 6: face and he panics, you know, the whole play is
Speaker 6: blown up. Why and mesh is run correctly. There are
Speaker 6: guys open, but he has no time to find them
Speaker 6: because you didn't prepare for what everybody on Earth who's
Speaker 6: ever watched the Chiefs play football knows is coming yea
Speaker 6: which is going to be a blitz. It's gonna be exotic,
Speaker 6: it's gonna be an overload. Give him some help. Leave
Speaker 6: a running back back there to at least pick somebody up.
Speaker 1: But that's I hear you, and that's all true, and
Speaker 1: yet so much goes into that. It's two defensive backs
Speaker 1: that are blitzing on that side, it's McDon So they
Speaker 1: only sent five. It felt when Patrick showed me the
Speaker 1: dots and the coaches film angle, which he has on
Speaker 1: his next gen stats like pro what's shot out in
Speaker 1: g Yeah, you know, I thought seven guys were blitzing
Speaker 1: on that that they sent zero like they did. Actually
Speaker 1: on third down, Tony Romo did a great job. They
Speaker 1: sent the house on third down. They got it out
Speaker 1: of Allen's hands. Amari Cooper almost broke that tackle. I
Speaker 1: think to pick up more yards didn't happen. So they
Speaker 1: only sent five, but two of them are defensive backs.
Speaker 1: Bolton's dropping out. I think a defensive lineman was dropping
Speaker 1: out there. And it's also in the context of a
Speaker 1: game where they actually didn't blitz much. They only blitzed
Speaker 1: eighteen percent of the time, about the same as the Bills,
Speaker 1: and they got so much more pressure on Sunday night
Speaker 1: forty six percent pressure rate by the Chiefs, almost double
Speaker 1: what the Bills got, the exact opposite of what happened
Speaker 1: the first time, where they blitzed like crazy, didn't get
Speaker 1: much pressure, and that the Bills won with four There
Speaker 1: were so many games within a game that I thought
Speaker 1: the Chiefs won tonight, which is why if I was
Speaker 1: a Bills fan, this one kills you. But I actually
Speaker 1: do think the better team won tonight. I felt like
Speaker 1: the Bills almost stole one at the very end, and
Speaker 1: it The last thing I want to say about that
Speaker 1: play is why it's so much can go into one
Speaker 1: football play for all of that that we just said,
Speaker 1: Nick like Josh Allen got the ball there like he
Speaker 1: saw got an open guy. Yeah, and it hits Kinkaid
Speaker 1: right in the hands. And in another world where Kinkaid
Speaker 1: just makes that it's not an easy catch because that's
Speaker 1: it thinks like coming down a little differently than most
Speaker 1: passes would be. In another world, that's the NFL film's moment.
Speaker 1: They they go to the super Bowl because of that,
Speaker 1: because it was a great play by Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: No, there's an incredible play, but it's tough to build
Speaker 4: the whole plane out of gas making those plays. Because
Speaker 4: there was another empty backfield play on the on the
Speaker 4: in the red zone earlier tonight where they emptied the
Speaker 4: backfield again and it's like, well, it's it's got to
Speaker 4: be Josh like this is and and he runs it
Speaker 4: and he and he ultimately gets it. But it's it's
Speaker 4: asking a lot for for a dude that is carrying
Speaker 4: the team. He's taken a lot of punishment these collective
Speaker 4: third and one, fourth and ones. He's just getting blasted.
Speaker 4: And I know he's big and he can take it,
Speaker 4: but it just seems like you could make things a
Speaker 4: little bit easier on him, not to say that he
Speaker 4: can't do it, because he can clearly do it. He
Speaker 4: had the ball in Dalton Kink's hands. But it feels
Speaker 4: like it's asking a whole lot from a guy who
Speaker 4: can do a whole lot. But it's still it's twenty
Speaker 4: two guys out there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I don't want to take you know, I
Speaker 6: don't want to criticize Joe Brady for this too much.
Speaker 6: I think that the moment at times made him coach tight.
Speaker 6: But I also love the speed option call on the
Speaker 6: goal line that produced the James Coke touchdown. I thought
Speaker 6: it was executed flawlessly, and you know, the effort by
Speaker 6: Cook to get across the goal line when he's getting
Speaker 6: hit by two guys was fantastic.
Speaker 7: It was a great call in that situation. I just
Speaker 7: felt like in.
Speaker 6: Some spots now Grant, they got built out when Alan
Speaker 6: finds that Curtis Samuel open in the back of the
Speaker 6: end zone for a touchdown. But the third down play
Speaker 6: call before that, which is just a fade of the
Speaker 6: corner the en zone to Keion Coleman against Tete McDuffie,
Speaker 6: It's like, what are you doing here? Like lean on
Speaker 6: your strikes here there. It was an up and down game.
Speaker 6: I understand high pressure.
Speaker 1: Towan doesn't have throw that ball either. Patrick, you're putting
Speaker 1: your head on your your hands there.
Speaker 5: Well, it just felt like a wasted down.
Speaker 7: It did. It's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: Why are you reducing My issue with the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: at times was the Bills had a stirring drive to
Speaker 1: come out of halftime. Twelve plays eighty yards, only one
Speaker 1: pass the whole time, and that was a little dump
Speaker 1: off to who was it knocks on the goal line
Speaker 1: or whatever to set up uh the eventual touchdown. It's
Speaker 1: all James Cook all the time, and I just thought
Speaker 1: he was having an incredible game. Thirteen for eighty five
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns and then forty nine yards through the
Speaker 1: air doesn't show how good he was. It was only
Speaker 1: on sixteen touches he was their best player, and there
Speaker 1: wasn't There wasn't enough James Cook to me on the
Speaker 1: last couple drives of the gaming, including even when they
Speaker 1: got down close. I'm just like, I know, you want
Speaker 1: to do the touch push all these times. Why not
Speaker 1: just hand the ball off to James Cook. He's popping
Speaker 1: seven every time you give him the ball.
Speaker 6: Steve Spagnolo is over there pleading with his defense. We
Speaker 6: have to stop the run so much that sideline reports
Speaker 6: are relaying this to us. We have to stop throwing.
Speaker 6: We don't have an answer. Sixteen touches in total, it's
Speaker 6: not enough. Like that's just poor game, you know, game script.
Speaker 6: It's poor decision making within the flow of the game.
Speaker 6: And I think that that's gonna be one of the
Speaker 6: reasons why when the Bills, you know, get back on
Speaker 6: that plane back to Buffalo. They're gonna be thinking, man,
Speaker 6: we left something out there. It's not just that fourth
Speaker 6: down play. We left something out there. We should have
Speaker 6: rolled the hot hand a little.
Speaker 3: Bit more so.
Speaker 1: They failed twice on two point conversions. One was on
Speaker 1: a Toush push, which I mentioned, one was on a
Speaker 1: pass by Josh Allen, and they actually got stuffed three
Speaker 1: different times on Toush pushes, including the fourth down in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Sean McDermott spoke after the game about
Speaker 1: all those unsuccessful plays.
Speaker 10: Well, it's been our best play all year year, you know,
Speaker 10: at water inside of one yard, and you know we
Speaker 10: won some of those. But but to your point, they were,
Speaker 10: they're doing a good job, and I thought, overall, you know, maybe,
Speaker 10: you know, maybe we could have disguised it.
Speaker 3: Maybe not.
Speaker 10: But at the end of the day, we have confidence
Speaker 10: in Josh and and our offensive line to get those
Speaker 10: and they've been getting them all year.
Speaker 3: But they they had part of the broadcast.
Speaker 1: I really thought this was a case where someone listening
Speaker 1: to the broadcast should have helped out the Bills coaches.
Speaker 1: The fact that Jim and Tony were talking about that
Speaker 1: the Bills always run it to the left, that the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were very prepared for it, that they practiced that
Speaker 1: all week, and then they stuffed it twice at that
Speaker 1: point going for a third time, which is the time
Speaker 1: that was on fourth and short. The Bills are driving
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, like it's not working today. Was
Speaker 1: your most successful play all season, and that is something
Speaker 1: that I think maybe McDermott over the years has been
Speaker 1: criticized about maybe not being as flexible and changing what
Speaker 1: your game plan. I know that's maybe more Joe Brady
Speaker 1: making that decison, but in that moment, it was maybe
Speaker 1: a bad spot Bill's fans, if they have one thing
Speaker 1: to complain about. It did look like Alan probably got it.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't surprised they didn't overturn it.
Speaker 4: In the event that when we can't see the football
Speaker 4: and somehow Josh Allen has decided to cover it in
Speaker 4: an organ that's inside of his body and behind it.
Speaker 5: I would say he didn't get it.
Speaker 4: But looking at the camera that was down the line,
Speaker 4: which was our I mean normally in the situations like
Speaker 4: oh we don't have the camera, it's tough to look
Speaker 4: down the line and say he didn't get the first
Speaker 4: down there. But you know, Kansas City was prepared, and
Speaker 4: I understand going to the well when it's been successful,
Speaker 4: because them going left wasn't something that just popped out
Speaker 4: like in Week thirteen, Like this is something that's been
Speaker 4: consistent there the entire season. It's worked the entire season.
Speaker 4: But Kansas City made the place tonight, especially the one
Speaker 4: where Chris Jones has Josh Allen low and I'm not
Speaker 4: sure if it was Bolton diving over the top, like
Speaker 4: they just they got an eight and got those stuffs.
Speaker 1: They forced a fumble on that one, right and they
Speaker 1: Josh Allen recovered the fumble. A crazy stat in this game.
Speaker 1: There were six fumbles in this game. Guess how many
Speaker 1: of the Bills recovered all six?
Speaker 4: I'll six, Wait, so counting counting the one that didn't
Speaker 4: count because of the penalty. Like Mahomes got yeah, got stripped.
Speaker 4: Every time the ball hit the round to the Buffalo,
Speaker 4: Bills got on top of him.
Speaker 1: And I was saying, maybe that was why I was
Speaker 1: feeling like they were a little lucky to be in
Speaker 1: this game, because I don't think Josh Allen played his
Speaker 1: best game. He made enough big plays that you can't
Speaker 1: say like he had a bad game, but he was
Speaker 1: not under control and making clearheaded decisions. I think like
Speaker 1: he had for most of the season. He could have
Speaker 1: easily had three turnovers in this game, or more like,
Speaker 1: if you were just add up all the like turnover
Speaker 1: worthy plays, like, it could have been four or five total.
Speaker 1: So he got very lucky not to have them, and
Speaker 1: then we'd be talking differently. I'm glad we're not having
Speaker 1: those conversations. But that's part of the reason why I
Speaker 1: feel like ultimately the Chiefs were better in this game.
Speaker 1: Another reason why is they took advantage when they did
Speaker 1: get the stop, So they get the fourth down stop
Speaker 1: on Josh Allen in the fourth quarter. That's with twelve
Speaker 1: to fifty five left in the fourth quarter. Five plays
Speaker 1: fifty nine yards later, they are in the end zone.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to the go ahead score by Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Now they go to a flipbon set first down play.
Speaker 3: Mahomes keeps it on an RPO at the five.
Speaker 7: It's a league plot.
Speaker 8: He goes into the NS on this hid touchdown Joe City.
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes a sixteen.
Speaker 8: Yard run, his second rushing touchdown of the.
Speaker 3: Game, such a good play call.
Speaker 1: Nick right on Twitter believes that the only design runs
Speaker 1: that they've called since Mahomes injured himself earlier in his
Speaker 1: career and they vowed to, you know, never call quarterback
Speaker 1: sneaks again. Were in the Super Bowl against the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers and two plays tonight, one on a previous
Speaker 1: fourth down and then that touchdown. He also scrambled to
Speaker 1: start that drive. Juju gets involved and then Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: pounds it down their throat and so the marriage between
Speaker 1: the play calling. He also hits the two point conversion
Speaker 1: that was the other play I was trying to think
Speaker 1: about earlier where I thought he was very patient in
Speaker 1: the pocket. That was not an easy play to make
Speaker 1: to wait with the pressure coming. Like, it's just the
Speaker 1: marriage of the play calling and the running at the
Speaker 1: perfect moment for the Chiefs to take advantage and get
Speaker 1: that score with Mahomes, like they only break it out
Speaker 1: when they absolutely need to.
Speaker 3: Shook.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's a product of continuity and familiarity
Speaker 6: with the Chiefs because what I saw between these two teams,
Speaker 6: I thought, you're absolutely right that the Chiefs were the
Speaker 6: better team and deserved this win more than the Bills did.
Speaker 6: But the difference between these two teams in terms of
Speaker 6: body language, performance, execution, everything else was one team that's
Speaker 6: been there before, is comfortable being there and knows how
Speaker 6: to win it, has done the job, and the other
Speaker 6: team that is so desperate to win it that they
Speaker 6: play tight wo in situations like that, you call a
Speaker 6: designed run for Mahomes that you never really do because
Speaker 6: you know he picks up yards on scrambles when he
Speaker 6: improvises and everything else, but you trust him enough because
Speaker 6: he's proven it to you enough over the years. You
Speaker 6: all know each other so well that you trust him
Speaker 6: to do that get that job done, and he gets
Speaker 6: it done.
Speaker 7: And that's the true mark of a champion.
Speaker 6: This is why the Chiefs have been here and why
Speaker 6: they're so hard to beat is because of plays in
Speaker 6: situations like that.
Speaker 4: And it's just a skill set that he unveils when
Speaker 4: he needs it. Like tonight was the second highest scramble
Speaker 4: rate in Mahomes' career. Wow, Like of all the times,
Speaker 4: I mean, this dude has played sixty two games since
Speaker 4: January of twenty twenty two, because they have all these
Speaker 4: playoff games, this is the highest mark since that spam,
Speaker 4: but the second highest scramble rate in his entire career,
Speaker 4: seventeen point four percent of the dropbacks, where even if
Speaker 4: there wasn't necessarily a play to make because you have
Speaker 4: to cover the whole field with him, there's so much
Speaker 4: trouble all over, even if Hollywood's dropping the ball, but
Speaker 4: he's you know, when he needs to, he can do it,
Speaker 4: Like however you want it, he can do it.
Speaker 3: Right. Remember that stat everyone was trying out again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick mentioned it on the previous show with me
Speaker 1: that everyone just kept hammering that stat.
Speaker 3: There's only three teams that didn't score more than thirty
Speaker 3: points this year, the Raiders, the Patriots, and the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Well, they scored more than thirty tonight in the AFC Championship.
Speaker 1: They got it to thirty two. And the first half
Speaker 1: of this game, to me, was so telling. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's maybe I'm just a sucker for first impressions, because
Speaker 1: the Bills did a great job coming back. But the
Speaker 1: first half of this game, for Josh Allen's first few
Speaker 1: plays to be design run Okay, cool statement of intent
Speaker 1: gets it six or seven yards, then near interception should
Speaker 1: have been intercepted. And then the very next play probably
Speaker 1: should have been intercepted to the flip side. Mahomes gets
Speaker 1: the ball and suddenly it's twenty seven and they're running
Speaker 1: the Alex Smith offense. It was four RPOs, a play action,
Speaker 1: and a bootleg.
Speaker 3: He wasn't even dropping back.
Speaker 1: And then Kareem Hunt, who, by the way, took so
Speaker 1: much advantage of those twenty five days off more than
Speaker 1: any other chief. This is the Kareem Hunt that they
Speaker 1: had in weeks four and five or whenever he joined
Speaker 1: and had a lot of juice. Suddenly he's totally back.
Speaker 1: He's way better than Pacheco. He is easily their best
Speaker 1: running back, and he gave them a big spark tonight.
Speaker 1: And I was just thinking that game plan early was
Speaker 1: so creative and so surprising, I think for the Bills.
Speaker 1: And they end up scoring three touchdowns in four possession. Now, granted,
Speaker 1: the one possession of the first half they didn't score
Speaker 1: was a fumble because Mahomes maybe isn't quite as good
Speaker 1: as Lamar and Josh Allen at those rbos and he
Speaker 1: fumbles the ball.
Speaker 3: But otherwise it was pretty it was pretty darn brilliant.
Speaker 4: And I think that offensive explosion put Buffalo in position
Speaker 4: where the ball was getting put into dangerous spots and
Speaker 4: the fumbles happened to know Buffalo recovers those.
Speaker 5: But like your your.
Speaker 4: Big offensive play was a seeing eyeball that mccollins makes
Speaker 4: like a career, career level play and beats Trip McDuffie
Speaker 4: on what leads to.
Speaker 3: Shout out to mccollins.
Speaker 4: I love mccollins, great mcollins season, but those are the
Speaker 4: type of plays that the Bills didn't need back in
Speaker 4: the win at home in Buffalo. They needed tonight, and
Speaker 4: so like things had to be a little bit more
Speaker 4: risky for Buffalo tonight.
Speaker 1: We've given some love to Jared Cook James Cook rather uh,
Speaker 1: never want to confuse your cooks. I learned tonight, By
Speaker 1: the way, Cooks, James Cook's middle name is Dalvin, I
Speaker 1: learned tonight, and Dalvin's middle name is James. So shout out,
Speaker 1: shout out to the Cooks, because you are two of
Speaker 1: the smoothest running backs I've ever seen, and your brothers
Speaker 1: and that's pretty cool. Let's listen to the touchdown call
Speaker 1: because that was an incredible play.
Speaker 11: Split backs with Gilliam and Cook on his left and
Speaker 11: right knocks out on the right.
Speaker 3: Other receiver on the other side, it's.
Speaker 11: A pitch blade to Cook, dives reaches for the end
Speaker 11: zone and he's got it.
Speaker 7: He is in for the touchdown.
Speaker 3: What an amazing.
Speaker 11: Effort by Cook, who is back in the kitchen for
Speaker 11: his second touchdown of the game. Nice he went airborne
Speaker 11: and stretched his arm as far as it would go
Speaker 11: to reach the goal line.
Speaker 3: Shout out to James Cook. That was a ridiculous effort.
Speaker 1: If they didn't get that one another failed fourth down
Speaker 1: on the goal line, it just felt like, man, are
Speaker 1: they ever gonna get it done? And shout out to
Speaker 1: this Bills team because we've talked a lot of about
Speaker 1: the negatives tonight. They did fall down big at Arrowhead.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen did have the drive in under two minutes
Speaker 1: for a touchdown going into halftime to make the score
Speaker 1: way better. He did have the fourth quarter drive after
Speaker 1: they were stopped on fourth down the Chiefs, you know,
Speaker 1: get that lead that we just talked about with Mahomes
Speaker 1: and he answered right away, this Bill's team had a
Speaker 1: ton of heart and there really was I think more
Speaker 1: than the some of their parts. And I think even
Speaker 1: though they lost this game and they weren't totally clean.
Speaker 1: They showed that tonight like they've still were right there
Speaker 1: and had every reason to fall out of this game,
Speaker 1: and they kept coming back on offense. So just just
Speaker 1: a little Bill's appreciation.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to.
Speaker 1: Eric at this point, we've waited long enough. Are you
Speaker 1: Are you trying to are you trying to hear me
Speaker 1: spin anything positive?
Speaker 3: At this point?
Speaker 12: I mean, this is how it always goes, man, It's
Speaker 12: I mean, I thought I did think we were gonna
Speaker 12: pull it out.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 12: We got the ball back down by a field goal,
Speaker 12: and I thought I And that's how it goes. It's
Speaker 12: happened to me plenty of times with this team. Thirteen seconds.
Speaker 12: It's not the first time I've gotten text from friends
Speaker 12: like a family member has died in my family's.
Speaker 3: It just happens.
Speaker 12: It's Mahomes is the dragon, and he's ruining my life
Speaker 12: and the life of many Bills fans around the world.
Speaker 5: It feels that way, like it feels I mean, but
Speaker 5: you can't like it's not real. I know it's not real.
Speaker 5: They're not magic. There were so many there were chances,
Speaker 5: and it's.
Speaker 6: Just yeah, that's the thing that's the thing is like,
Speaker 6: they get the ball down three and a friend of
Speaker 6: mine who's a diehard Bills fan, I texted her and
Speaker 6: I was like, if your king's gonna go take his throat,
Speaker 6: he's gotta go do it.
Speaker 7: Right now and they and they didn't like. And that's football.
Speaker 12: It's like this, the moment was there and you come
Speaker 12: up short, and I almost it comes back to things
Speaker 12: like would you rather get blown out?
Speaker 3: Would you rather get your heart ripped out? Last second?
Speaker 12: I don't know which would be worse at this point,
Speaker 12: Like what do I want to be involved for four
Speaker 12: quarters and have that chance and like it's there for
Speaker 12: me or just not even be involved? Yes, I mean
Speaker 12: I don't know you do yes, But it's happened to
Speaker 12: me multiple times now, Like.
Speaker 1: He's turning twenty nine years old in May, and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say it doesn't. It is brutal to lose
Speaker 1: late in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Over and over.
Speaker 1: It's it's an maybe there's no better or worse in
Speaker 1: terms of pain, but you still got that guy and
Speaker 1: you still got that team, so that that part's good.
Speaker 3: In no way do I think that this is the end.
Speaker 3: Are We're done?
Speaker 12: Like Josh Allen is a badass quarterback and he will
Speaker 12: will the Bills to something at some point, I hope,
Speaker 12: And it's just may not happen while Mahomes is standing
Speaker 12: upright on the other sideline.
Speaker 4: Well, there's there's an opportunity to surround. We were just
Speaker 4: talking about the talent level on this roster as a whole,
Speaker 4: and you look at some of these other postseason contenders
Speaker 4: and the spots where they are successful where they don't
Speaker 4: necessarily have Josh Allen, Right, Like you talk about pieces
Speaker 4: of that that Texans team in a pass rush in
Speaker 4: the secondary, or the Ravens and that in the defense,
Speaker 4: the way that they got better, and like the plays
Speaker 4: that like Isaiah Likely was making, or like Mark Andrew's
Speaker 4: doing spots in the game, Like so much of this
Speaker 4: Bills team just comes down like seventeen doing it even
Speaker 4: when James Cook is having this generational type game and
Speaker 4: there's just there's gotta be more for the team around him.
Speaker 4: And that's why I think it feels like this team overachieved,
Speaker 4: Like based on the total roster of the team, like
Speaker 4: they overachieved. It was an incredible success to be where
Speaker 4: they were with this opportunity and so much of that
Speaker 4: goes on seventeen and I think like the whole Rings
Speaker 4: conversation kind of clouds people and makes it makes it
Speaker 4: tough for people to enjoy this because it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: we need we need Josh to win one, or we need,
Speaker 4: you know, justin Herbert or Lamar to win one so
Speaker 4: that they can be good and we can appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Like no, like we yeah, but it's it's also for them,
Speaker 1: you know, even if you take all that out of that,
Speaker 1: if you root for him as a human, you want
Speaker 1: him to have that feeling you want him because because
Speaker 1: that's what he is playing for, is to finish it off.
Speaker 1: He's playing for other stuff too, but he is playing
Speaker 1: for that. And the thing that I think is going
Speaker 1: to be difficult for him is I don't think he'll
Speaker 1: think he played his best tonight.
Speaker 3: I really don't.
Speaker 1: I think you go back to that first drive that
Speaker 1: he was a little skittish on. There was a few
Speaker 1: times tonight where he misses wide open receivers, one with
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel crossing over the middle. There was another one
Speaker 1: early in the game where he just misses an open guy.
Speaker 1: He dirts one a little bit and I just thought like,
Speaker 1: it wasn't his cleanest game. So you always want your
Speaker 1: best players to play the best in the biggest of spots.
Speaker 1: He talked after the game, it's a little sad to
Speaker 1: listen to, but let's listen to it.
Speaker 2: It's not fun, but to beat the champs, you had
Speaker 2: to beat the champs.
Speaker 3: He had to beat the champs, and we didn't do
Speaker 3: it tonight.
Speaker 6: He's right, they're the bully on the block. And this
Speaker 6: isn't the movie Friday, at least not yet.
Speaker 4: But the way we remember things is funny, right, because
Speaker 4: Mahomes had had a screen to worthy that was going
Speaker 4: to be six and he threw them an absolute bounce pass. Yep,
Speaker 4: it just kind of gets wiped away because because the
Speaker 4: Chiefs went like, these guys are incredible, and sometimes the
Speaker 4: results don't don't reveal the greatness of the players that
Speaker 4: we're watching. And I just hope, like for Eric's sake,
Speaker 4: for everybody that's watching the Buffalo Bills and they have
Speaker 4: their blue on tonight and they're sad, like there was
Speaker 4: so much to enjoy about this football team that like.
Speaker 3: The journey was fun. I hope, I hope you.
Speaker 1: I hope you had fun with the journey, and yes,
Speaker 1: the the journey for this Chiefs team will continue. We'll
Speaker 1: have a couple of weeks to talk about it. Jordan
Speaker 1: rod reeg the athletic coming down with me to New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Nick Shook coming down to New Orleans, gonna try to
Speaker 1: He's gonna be busy right in and covering.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, like an old noir film.
Speaker 5: Is like Shook in his hotel room, just like yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Chris Jones. Nate Tice had a stat
Speaker 1: in the first half of this game. He was not
Speaker 1: double team down eleven snaps of the first half and
Speaker 1: he got seven pressures out of those eleven snapstball player.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's literally one of the best defensive players
Speaker 1: in the history of NFL. Postseason football, maybe I don't
Speaker 1: even need to put postseason there, but postseason its next level.
Speaker 1: If you just stack up the moments the games that
Speaker 1: he has changed to.
Speaker 5: Effect should have a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1: Winning I personally don't think there's anyone who's who's stacked
Speaker 1: up as many plays as him in the last twenty years.
Speaker 1: So I threw this out there and I got a
Speaker 1: lot of like Aaron Donald back or ty Law, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, they had they had a season, or
Speaker 1: they had runs, and Donald was pretty dominant whenever he
Speaker 1: got the chance. But just because Jones is there every
Speaker 1: time he gets so any chanced, it dont to high.
Speaker 1: Towers made a lot of really game changing plays, but man,
Speaker 1: he is incredible. I also wanted to give just before
Speaker 1: we go, like a shout out to to Xavier Worthy,
Speaker 1: that rookie that they traded up for with the Bills,
Speaker 1: uh in the first round where everyone was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, wow, the whole league.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna let Xavier Worthy go to the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: aren't you.
Speaker 3: I mean it kinda kind of came true, Like yeah, he.
Speaker 7: Took all season, but yeah he was.
Speaker 4: He was like putting his foot in the ground and
Speaker 4: getting in the end zone on that last like crosser
Speaker 4: away from having I think a perfect game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like his suddenness to like he looks like Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson in the Smooth Criminal video. He's just like stopping
Speaker 1: and going backwards and going forwards. He's unreal. He's a
Speaker 1: contested catch. God, he didn't have one all season and
Speaker 1: now he's doing it every single week.
Speaker 7: Bodes well for their next matchup.
Speaker 4: They stopped using him as a go merchant and started
Speaker 4: having him play football.
Speaker 7: Wait you mean you can run round?
Speaker 3: Sweet uh man.
Speaker 1: If there's anything else we think we want to say,
Speaker 1: we still have a whole other half of the show
Speaker 1: to go. Eric has been begging me to take a
Speaker 1: break for a while.
Speaker 3: Just I could see it in his eyes.
Speaker 1: He's telling me the time this has been a painful stretch.
Speaker 3: So let's move on from AFC.
Speaker 1: We'll be back talking NFC after the break.
Speaker 9: He's got Barkley to his left hand, off Barkley scudder
Speaker 9: step running to the right.
Speaker 11: Barkley will take it air touchdown, Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: They are lighting up the lynch.
Speaker 9: They have the Eagles running away from the Commanders. Say
Speaker 9: Kwan Barkley third touchdown up the day, Philadelphia could chaste it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're going back to iron Eagle the bird
Speaker 1: on the NFC Championship recap that.
Speaker 3: Was on Westwood one.
Speaker 1: And yes, that was Saquon Barkley's third touchdown of the
Speaker 1: day that got it to forty eight points.
Speaker 3: The Eagles got wild.
Speaker 1: And they dropped a fifty burger on the Commanders in
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Final score fifty five to twenty three.
Speaker 1: I love a consistent storyline, Shook and you can set
Speaker 1: your one today you get You can set your watch
Speaker 1: to this running game with Saquon Barkley. The very first
Speaker 1: carry of the game was a touchdown and yeah, by
Speaker 1: the end, they were just pouring it on. This running
Speaker 1: game has been the eighth Wonder of the world this
Speaker 1: whole season. And they're going to be playing in Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty nine against the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: What do you think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can set your watch to him hitting a
Speaker 6: big play early. You can sit your watch to him
Speaker 6: closing the game with a big play. He was one
Speaker 6: yard short of finishing it off with a touchdown. Sets
Speaker 6: up Jalen Hurts. But what you couldn't set your watch
Speaker 6: for was the Eagles putting fifty five points on the board.
Speaker 6: This is a team that we've just hemmed in hot
Speaker 6: over the last two weeks ago. They can't put points
Speaker 6: on the board, then their offense isn't explosive outside of Saquon.
Speaker 3: What do they do?
Speaker 6: Can they beat the Commanders? Can they keep up with
Speaker 6: Jayden and Daniels well double Nickel later looks like they can.
Speaker 6: And it was because of the collective team effort. It
Speaker 6: wasn't just Saquon even though he was fantastic average almost
Speaker 6: eight yards per carry on the ground. It was Jalen
Speaker 6: Hurts and his bad knee with two toush push touchdowns
Speaker 6: and another one with Saquon leading the way. It was
Speaker 6: Shipley Will Shipley getting involved late in the game when
Speaker 6: it really didn't matter anymore. Is aj Brown catching a
Speaker 6: touchdown pass? They were firing on all cylinders. This is
Speaker 6: the Eagles, I think, at their peak offensively, where Hurts
Speaker 6: doesn't have to throw for three hundred yards but they
Speaker 6: can still rack up four hundred and fifty yards of
Speaker 6: offense and cruise to a victory against a very familiar opponent.
Speaker 7: Who had a great season but learned that.
Speaker 6: When you don't win in the turnover margin, you usually
Speaker 6: lose in the playoffs, as they did today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those five turnovers that they love in the game
Speaker 4: where they come back and win. Jaden Daniels throws a
Speaker 4: touchdown with six seconds on the clock to beat the
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett led Eagles at that point. Late, they turned
Speaker 4: the ball over here and the Eagles made them pay
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 3: But every time, I think, because coming into.
Speaker 5: The game right there's the concerns.
Speaker 4: We go back a few weeks, it's like, what do
Speaker 4: we need to work on pass game? The Eagles struggle
Speaker 4: in the pass game. The run rate is high. I
Speaker 4: never thought that Jalen Hurts forgot how to throw the ball,
Speaker 4: like when the offense is operating and this is rotating
Speaker 4: two centers. By the way, neither one of them was
Speaker 4: healthy throughout this game. As Dickerson is snapping the ball,
Speaker 4: then Jurgons is out. Jurgens comes back in because Dickerson
Speaker 4: like can't move. He actually had a holding call. They
Speaker 4: called back a touchdown because he just couldn't get to
Speaker 4: the guy who got across his face.
Speaker 5: There h third down, Jalen.
Speaker 4: Hurts, third and five goes to Saquon first down, third
Speaker 4: and four, AJ Brown four yard touchdown. There was the
Speaker 4: fourth and five money to AJ Brown thirty one yards
Speaker 4: on Marshawn Lattimore, like consistently when they needed plays in
Speaker 4: the passing game. They were explosive there and they showed
Speaker 4: that they've had this in the bag the whole time.
Speaker 4: They go up against the defense that's frankly overmatched. No
Speaker 4: day Ron Payne in this game, which I think had
Speaker 4: a huge impact especially in their ability to stop the run,
Speaker 4: but when they needed to, the talent disparity was just
Speaker 4: too glaring on offense for the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you shouted that out with Hurtz. So
Speaker 1: he ends up with a ninety four percent success rate
Speaker 1: or no, he was in the ninety fourth percentile in
Speaker 1: terms of EPA for play in this game.
Speaker 3: According to Shiel Kapadia.
Speaker 1: He was twenty for twenty eight, two forty six and
Speaker 1: four total touchdowns, three of them on the ground.
Speaker 3: And I thought.
Speaker 1: Aj Brown's sequence in the middle of this game was
Speaker 1: as important as just about anything. There was the touchdown
Speaker 1: that's a that's a one on one play against sand Restill,
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a great ball by Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: but also AJ Brown just totally beats him.
Speaker 3: He's an underrated route runner gets the touchdown.
Speaker 1: That was after the sand Restill dumb penalty, which was
Speaker 1: part of a succession of dumb plays by the Commanders,
Speaker 1: ultimately dumb penalties turnovers. There was also right in the
Speaker 1: middle of that quarter a fourth down where the at
Speaker 1: midfield where the Eagles decide to go for it and
Speaker 1: they throw a go ball to aj Brown and that's
Speaker 1: that's just like, that's what they did against the Giants
Speaker 1: earlier in the season. I remember in a very similar
Speaker 1: situation late in the first half and like a one
Speaker 1: score game, and that was just trusting their best players.
Speaker 1: And that includes Jalen Hurts to do what he does best,
Speaker 1: which is throw a go ball, like in theory, a
Speaker 1: low percentage play on fourth down, and they trusted him.
Speaker 1: He trusted the look after passing on it earlier, learned
Speaker 1: from that mistake. AJ Brown goes and gets it, goes
Speaker 1: six for ninety six. So as good as Saquon was,
Speaker 1: and he was awesome as always, and yeah, as good
Speaker 1: as Will Shipley was late, like, the passing game was
Speaker 1: a huge factor in them.
Speaker 3: Scored eight touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Nick, that's the most touchdowns in a playoff game this
Speaker 1: entire century. Eight touchdowns, I mean, they would eight touchdowns
Speaker 1: and eleven drives. That is that is extremely difficult to
Speaker 1: do in the NFL.
Speaker 7: Seven rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 6: That ties for the most rushing touchdowns in a postseason
Speaker 6: game in NFL history. If you wow me, the final
Speaker 6: score of the game, in which I already know, I
Speaker 6: already know that wasn't today go ahead?
Speaker 3: Great because I saw it.
Speaker 1: I saw it, but I think I could have guessed it.
Speaker 1: It was seventy three to nothing against this same Washington crew,
Speaker 1: biggest blowout and can you imagine making the championship game
Speaker 1: and losing seventy three to nothing because that so proud
Speaker 1: was what happened to the lowly Chicago Bears.
Speaker 7: And it was also nineteen forty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a long time before at War. Like
Speaker 3: a lot was going on there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, a lot was going on. But you know
Speaker 7: what else is going on?
Speaker 6: As Aj Brown proving himself to be one of the
Speaker 6: most trustworthy go ball guys and one of the most
Speaker 6: trustworthy go to guys in key spots on that play
Speaker 6: that you just described. As soon as Hurts drops back
Speaker 6: and he throws it up. As soon as I watch
Speaker 6: the ball ark in the air and I look down,
Speaker 6: I go, oh, that's Aj Brown.
Speaker 7: That's gonna be caught.
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, he had a step on Latimore, didn't matter.
Speaker 6: Latimore could have been draped all over and he's still
Speaker 6: going to catch the ball. He's one of the most
Speaker 6: trustworthy guys in those situations. And that's what makes this
Speaker 6: Eagles offense so scary. They have a great offensive line.
Speaker 6: They have a dynamite running back in Saquon Barkley. They
Speaker 6: have two awesome receivers in Brown and DeVonta Smith. They
Speaker 6: have a great tight end Dallas got it. And at
Speaker 6: one point, I think it was when Hurts rushed for
Speaker 6: a touchdown, they had a sequence where they're going to Smith,
Speaker 6: They're going to god It, They're going to Brown, They're
Speaker 6: going all over the field, and then it's Hurts on
Speaker 6: the keeper and Barkley throwing the block to get him
Speaker 6: to the edge for the touchdown. Where I think Tom
Speaker 6: Brady said, we have so many different they have so
Speaker 6: many different guys. Who's going to beat us? Well, you
Speaker 6: can't be don't beat us, don't let got it be,
Speaker 6: don't let Brown beat us. Oh wait, there's Jalen Hurts
Speaker 6: to beat us. Like when their offense is humming, they're
Speaker 6: extremely scary and the commander's learned that today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's listen to Saquon beating them as a
Speaker 1: blocker from.
Speaker 9: The non She'll we looking for more purses on long
Speaker 9: left side.
Speaker 5: The fun cuts it to the outside touch down. The
Speaker 5: Eagles were piling it on.
Speaker 9: Philadelphia doing the gritty and they open up a thirty
Speaker 9: three fifteen lead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the moment where it felt over. That
Speaker 1: wasn't the only highlight block Saquon had. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was him getting leverage on Frankie Luvu and totally you know,
Speaker 1: walling him out of the play on it where he
Speaker 1: literally is like the full back on that play. He
Speaker 1: also planted Bobby Wagner into the ground on a blitz
Speaker 1: pick up.
Speaker 3: What can't this man do?
Speaker 4: And it's when when we say blitz pick up, you
Speaker 4: kind of imagine like the running back stepping up and
Speaker 4: pick this was this was a Saquon attacking Bobby Wagner.
Speaker 5: It felt almost excessively violent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could hear the pop on the on the broadcast,
Speaker 4: and it gave Jalen the time that he needed to
Speaker 4: to make plays where like Davante's Smith had six yards
Speaker 4: of average separation in this game, Like normally you're seeing
Speaker 4: backs and tight ends with that level of separation.
Speaker 1: Wow, but it's targets, but he goes four for forty five,
Speaker 1: crazy efficient, got her seven out of eight targets for
Speaker 1: eighty five. Aj Brown six for eight targets for ninety six.
Speaker 1: Just so efficient. And let's actually listen to Nick Sirianni
Speaker 1: talking about his guy Jalen Hurts after the game.
Speaker 13: It's amazing how much.
Speaker 5: Doubt there is. Something.
Speaker 13: I can't quite comprehend it because you know, it doesn't
Speaker 13: look like people think it should look like. But the
Speaker 13: but the guy has been clutch. He's won a ton
Speaker 13: of football games. But they but you ran for this
Speaker 13: many yards. We don't care how we win.
Speaker 5: We don't. We don't care.
Speaker 13: If we rush for three hundred and passed for one
Speaker 13: and we win, great, If we rush rush for one
Speaker 13: and passed for three hundred, great, who cares. We've just
Speaker 13: continued to win. He's just continued to win.
Speaker 3: And I think.
Speaker 13: The the criticism is, yeah, whatever, he just wins.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out who is eighty two because
Speaker 1: he's on the current roster Ania Smith uh And if
Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube, you'll see that Sirianni had Kelly
Speaker 1: Green Eagles jersey on of eighty two.
Speaker 3: I don't Mike Quick is has to be the answer,
Speaker 3: little Love.
Speaker 4: I got it a former Bachelor Franchise star Clay Harber.
Speaker 6: It's got to be Mike Quick You know where he
Speaker 6: fits in my late night comfort viewing lately has been
Speaker 6: The Bernie mac Show on Netflix. Nick Sirianni looks like
Speaker 6: he belongs in Bernie Max's den with his friends playing.
Speaker 7: Card yeah, cloking cigars.
Speaker 3: It could be Lja Smith.
Speaker 2: The Chief.
Speaker 3: I looked it up. It could be Tory Smith.
Speaker 5: Briefly, I'm looking at the same list, Tom Scott.
Speaker 1: It was definitely not Lja Smith the like Joe the
Speaker 1: number fourteenth tight end getting drafted in fantasy leagues in
Speaker 1: two thousand and five. When I was doing rankings back then,
Speaker 1: I thought Hurts was really ready for the moment. He
Speaker 1: was one hundred percent healthy by my eyes. I'm sure
Speaker 1: he didn't feel that way. But what I mean to
Speaker 1: say is that when he cut and ran forward, it
Speaker 1: was good. When he ran, and when he made a
Speaker 1: couple throws on the run, it looked quite good. And
Speaker 1: there were some people saying, like, oh, he didn't look
Speaker 1: great when he was running laterally, that's like what he
Speaker 1: looks like normally. So I thought he looked great. It's
Speaker 1: always been a story how Jalen Hurts kind of processes
Speaker 1: the game, and I think it's fair in terms of
Speaker 1: him holding the ball. There was a play early in
Speaker 1: this game where he has a hard count, he sees
Speaker 1: them coming on the Blitz, he sees the coverage, he
Speaker 1: points it out. I don't know if he changes it,
Speaker 1: but he knows exactly what he's going to do, and
Speaker 1: he hits Godard for a big game right afterwards. So
Speaker 1: he used that hard count to kind of outsmart see
Speaker 1: what was going on, make it happen. He used to
Speaker 1: be criticized for his struggles against the Blitz. That's been
Speaker 1: mostly good this year, but a little up and down lately.
Speaker 1: Seven for thirteen for one hundred and sixteen yards today
Speaker 1: against Blitz, whereas Jayden Daniels struggled against the Blitz in
Speaker 1: an otherwise good game two for six twenty nine yards. Patrick,
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Jaden Daniels in his first Championship Game appearance.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be his last. I don't want
Speaker 1: to put too much pressure on it, but I have
Speaker 1: a feeling we'll see him at some point again here.
Speaker 4: No, especially because I don't know if the Commanders are
Speaker 4: going to, especially under Dank Quann, have a defense that
Speaker 4: is as overmatched as they were, especially today giving up
Speaker 4: any touchdowns on eleven drives. That's saying we've already talked
Speaker 4: about that, but Jayden just puts so much pressure on
Speaker 4: so many different parts of your team. Where the Eagles
Speaker 4: had a great, great plan in spectacular execution, and even
Speaker 4: that was still very close to thirty points. I mean,
Speaker 4: they they get behind, they're pressing, the Eagles were sustaining drives.
Speaker 4: Looking back, thirty points feels easy. You know, he had
Speaker 4: he did have the turnover, but he's changed the expectations
Speaker 4: so much by just howell spectacular he's been. Where there
Speaker 4: was clearly the Diammy Brown fumble right loses you an opportunity.
Speaker 4: The McNichols fumble loses an opportunity. Could he have played better, yes,
Speaker 4: But I mean it's nitpicking at this.
Speaker 1: I think so because even that interception was with five
Speaker 1: minutes left in the game, and that it actually kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of how I say that he has
Speaker 1: good misses, Like that's a good interception at that point
Speaker 1: in the game. It's a long down and distant situation.
Speaker 1: You're giving your guy a chance to make a play
Speaker 1: and the game's over at that point. Anyways, to lose
Speaker 1: three fumbles Diammy Brown, Jeremy McNichols and Austin Eckler were
Speaker 1: just those were just absolutely killer to me. I'm losing
Speaker 1: track of which one was which, But the Zach Bond
Speaker 1: one was the first one, right him coming over. As
Speaker 1: they're holding up so many force fumbles, it's hard to
Speaker 1: keep track.
Speaker 6: The Bond one was on Eckler when he got up afterward,
Speaker 6: I think Bond who knocked it out?
Speaker 3: So that was the third one? That was the third
Speaker 3: third one?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, But I want to go back to Daniels
Speaker 6: real quick, because I think that those who like scan
Speaker 6: the stat sheet and look at the final score and want,
Speaker 6: you know, oversimplified topics for daytime talk shows are going
Speaker 6: to try to pin this on the quarterback because it's
Speaker 6: the easiest way to disseminate information to the viewership, Right,
Speaker 6: Jane Daniels is the only reason they were in this game.
Speaker 3: Yes, they didn't.
Speaker 7: They don't have a running game. They haven't had a
Speaker 7: running game for a long time.
Speaker 6: He dropped back fifty five times through the ball forty
Speaker 6: eight times, and on that first drive alone that they
Speaker 6: only get a field goal out of, they have to
Speaker 6: convert fourth down like three times, and he's doing it
Speaker 6: every time. He's putting defenses in conflict. He's making it
Speaker 6: hard to where they have to guard the whole cover
Speaker 6: the whole field because he's able to scramble.
Speaker 7: He's throwing accurate passes.
Speaker 6: In the middle of the first quar They're losing the game,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, I don't know if they can come
Speaker 6: back because the momentum is already in the eagles favor.
Speaker 6: But Jane Daniels is definitely built for this moment. He's
Speaker 6: handling this really well. It's just that he can't also
Speaker 6: account for his defense, you know, in them being leaky
Speaker 6: and his teammates turning the ball over. So I don't
Speaker 6: have any negative things to say about him.
Speaker 7: Coming away fa this game.
Speaker 6: I thought he was the best part of their entire performance,
Speaker 6: and he's got a bright future. It's just a bumber
Speaker 6: in a good season that ends short of the ultimate goal.
Speaker 5: I mean, that place was in full throat.
Speaker 4: Everything is going there, ready to party on Broad Street,
Speaker 4: and he put the fear of God in the entire building. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what was it, eighteen plays? It's constant, and I thought
Speaker 4: they were going to go for another fourth down.
Speaker 5: I'm honestly surprised that they didn't.
Speaker 1: I thought I think he blinked a little bit. They
Speaker 1: kicked a thirty four yarder on a fourth and two
Speaker 1: after an eighteen play opening drive, and I thought that
Speaker 1: moment actually was dan Quinn blinking a little is like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to push our luck here, when in reality,
Speaker 1: if in some world where they were going to win
Speaker 1: this game, which would have not include did three lost fumbles? Uh,
Speaker 1: I think they got to go for that and keep
Speaker 1: getting sevens.
Speaker 6: You know, I think they regretted that quickly too, because
Speaker 6: then they run the fake punt.
Speaker 1: They were down fourteen three, like yeah, like eight scripts later,
Speaker 1: big punt. Literally five minutes later, they were down fourteen three.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering at what point, So, how many players are
Speaker 4: you scripting at the start of the.
Speaker 3: Game, supposedly like ten to fifteen.
Speaker 4: I think it's so I'm wondering if you're getting down
Speaker 4: to that fourth down and it's like, all right, well
Speaker 4: you got Cliff Cliff when we got all four for two,
Speaker 4: he's upside down.
Speaker 1: There were a couple plays where I thought Cliff got
Speaker 1: a little too cute, and I think that's to the
Speaker 1: Eagles defensive credit that as Tom Brady kept pointing out,
Speaker 1: like everything's hard against this defense, and I know what
Speaker 1: he meant was they are it is kind of the
Speaker 1: prototypical Vic Fangio defense that they're gonna make you earn it.
Speaker 3: There wasn't a ton of separation.
Speaker 1: You're getting first downs, like three downs at a time,
Speaker 1: and how to go down the field like that, and
Speaker 1: that is difficult to just continue doing. But I did
Speaker 1: think they blinked and then you fumble what it was
Speaker 1: the kickoff and you give up the quick touchdown to
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, and suddenly, after another six play drive by
Speaker 1: the Eagles or your defense you know, has no resistance,
Speaker 1: you're down fourteen to three. It was a great job
Speaker 1: though by the Eagles, I mean by the Commanders to
Speaker 1: respond with their own another long field goal drive. They
Speaker 1: do get a stop rare in this game. It was
Speaker 1: actually a missed field goal by Jake Ellie, a long
Speaker 1: field goal, but they did, you know, make him kick
Speaker 1: that long field goal. He missed it, and it was
Speaker 1: the one moment of the game where you thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe it's gonna be back in fourth.
Speaker 3: Let's go to the second quarter. Jaden Daniels, here's Daniels.
Speaker 9: He's recol throws over the middle, Terry mccouran clot it
Speaker 9: at the thirty till it's meet at the twenty.
Speaker 8: Cuts away for ten fucking me a dude, touchdown judge
Speaker 8: down one a dad seventeen.
Speaker 5: Well another legacy moment in the playoffs. Listen splee out
Speaker 5: season life down Texas a terrible color waiting on the
Speaker 5: slab run.
Speaker 1: Oh that is so good, uh for I guess the
Speaker 1: last time, at least after a game this season. We
Speaker 1: still have our calls of the year to come, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure Bram and London will be featured there. But
Speaker 1: it was great to great to hear them one last time.
Speaker 1: And uh to brand Wimstein's credit, I mean he was
Speaker 1: so strong on the show that I was commanders pilled
Speaker 1: after that.
Speaker 3: I was just like, I think he's right, I think
Speaker 3: they will win.
Speaker 4: And then look at this card, I mean, why why
Speaker 4: would why would they think anything else? And all all
Speaker 4: credit to an offense in a spectacular season. Uh, you know,
Speaker 4: from the best rookie quarterback season I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Get me too, it's now past RG three would have
Speaker 1: been my answer, and it's past no question he was asked.
Speaker 3: Jaden was asked to do more.
Speaker 1: He kept it going into the playoffs, and his rate
Speaker 1: of improvement throughout the courses, he was just outstanding. He
Speaker 1: also led them in rushing today, by the way, six
Speaker 1: for forty eight. That play, though that McLaurin made was
Speaker 1: rare thirty six yard er. He had only fifteen the
Speaker 1: rest of the day. I have some crazy quinyon Mitchell's
Speaker 1: stats facing Terry McLaurin, which was I believe most of
Speaker 1: his snaps thirty six out of the forty eight snaps.
Speaker 1: He only gave up one reception on four targets for
Speaker 1: seven yards in an interception. So Cliff not beating the
Speaker 1: accusations here of leaving his guy on one side of
Speaker 1: the field, because if you saw that touchdown, he's on
Speaker 1: the right side there with the Slay and they don't
Speaker 1: really travel in terms of Mitchell and Slay. But that
Speaker 1: was the matchup, and you don't blame him for thinking
Speaker 1: that's a good matchup again anyone, Terry McLaurin. But that's
Speaker 1: twice now that that quinnyon. What a season and he
Speaker 1: gets a trademark interception there at the end. All right,
Speaker 1: we got more to talk about with this game. We'll
Speaker 1: be back after the break, Nick, I thought their defensive
Speaker 1: stars all showed up. Josh Sweat had a nice day,
Speaker 1: three quick pressures, Zach Bond with that forced fumble, a
Speaker 1: fumble recovery, twelve tackles, Mitchell with a really good game.
Speaker 1: I mean, this group they have stars, but they also
Speaker 1: play really well together. I thought they flew to the
Speaker 1: ball to the point where the fumbles almost didn't feel
Speaker 1: like luck. Really, it just felt like they were almost
Speaker 1: inevitable because every time someone was getting tackled hard and
Speaker 1: they were swarming.
Speaker 6: Yeah, even Jordan Davis had a sack, and you know
Speaker 6: he's often overshadowed by his former Georgia teammate Jeleen Carter,
Speaker 6: and yet they both made a difference today. I think
Speaker 6: that today was an example of what the Eagles gonna
Speaker 6: be at their peak on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 6: you know, with takeaways, being opportunistic defensively, but just like
Speaker 6: you said, flying to the football, it felt like every
Speaker 6: time there was a loose ball, there were a crowd
Speaker 6: of Eagles around it ready to jump on it. And
Speaker 6: you could say like, oh, that's just the way the
Speaker 6: games go, and the football gods are against the Commanders.
Speaker 7: Now this is a good defense.
Speaker 6: This is guys that are playing well within the scheme
Speaker 6: that is directed by Vic Fanjo, who's got decades of experience,
Speaker 6: and they're all peaking at the perfect time. And then
Speaker 6: you compliment that with the offense, the dominance on the
Speaker 6: ground with Saquon Barkley, the ability to move the football
Speaker 6: through the air, and that's how you get a blowout
Speaker 6: like this, and that's what makes them scary for anybody
Speaker 6: left in their way, which of course is the Chiefs.
Speaker 6: But on a day like today, you take a moment
Speaker 6: to celebrate that because it's rare that teams execute this
Speaker 6: well in all phases, and they did.
Speaker 1: It's the same formula as twenty seventeen and twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: you know, two season and then the twenty three you know,
Speaker 1: it happened in the playoffs for the Egles. I don't
Speaker 1: think they were quite as strong on the defensive line
Speaker 1: that season, so I don't think the formula was quite
Speaker 1: there for me. But it's all about drafting, developing, and
Speaker 1: then signing offensive lineman and defensive lineman and and and
Speaker 1: yes they're extremely talented roster were what were we doing
Speaker 1: before the game, before we started, we were comparing the
Speaker 1: Bills and the Eagles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were trying to figure out how many non
Speaker 4: Josh Allen Bills we would take and put on this
Speaker 4: Eagles team.
Speaker 1: In terms of starting positions, right in a trade. That's
Speaker 1: crazy because the Bills are one of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the league. And yet I rolled through them all
Speaker 1: and I'm and there's some positions that are even There's
Speaker 1: certainly positions where the Bills have a great player like
Speaker 1: James Cook, He's just not as great as the Eagles
Speaker 1: great player. But I like had to go down to
Speaker 1: like well, backup tight end Dawson Knox, I'd take over
Speaker 1: Grant Calcultara. Like that's how loaded this team is. But
Speaker 1: to finish, uh, my point I started with was was
Speaker 1: the lines, and that's what they've always been about in
Speaker 1: this Howie era. And their lines right now, their four
Speaker 1: down linemen that started all had at least three pressures
Speaker 1: and quick I mean sweat and and Jalen Carter had
Speaker 1: had three quick pressures I believe eats. And then the
Speaker 1: offensive line is so freaking good that they can have
Speaker 1: their center not even be available for the start of
Speaker 1: the game because he's not healthy. So they have Lannon
Speaker 1: Dickerson move over step in, but he gets hurt. And
Speaker 1: then Jurgens, who is hurt, you know, comes in after
Speaker 1: halftime and they all make it look seamless and protect
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts great, and run the ball great.
Speaker 4: And they're still they're still running brotherly shoves right with centers.
Speaker 4: They can barely move, which I was concerned about, but
Speaker 4: you know, they make it work. Mackay Beckton comes over
Speaker 4: and you know, the story out of New York was,
Speaker 4: you know, this is an abject failures and he was
Speaker 4: consistent all season long, Like one, had a huge block
Speaker 4: on the Saquon run to the right side and then
Speaker 4: touchdown where they just He's got so many dudes that
Speaker 4: can make plays in the benefit of getting two guys
Speaker 4: to come in as rookies, and it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I hope they contribute. Quinnon split at an all pro level,
Speaker 4: like not just late in the season, like middle and late.
Speaker 1: They took the Britagene with a nice pass breakup. Had
Speaker 1: had six tackles in this game.
Speaker 3: He was good.
Speaker 4: So the places like they needed to improve, they improved
Speaker 4: in free agency and in the draft like that they
Speaker 4: got hits where they needed to and that's what I'm
Speaker 4: gonna win.
Speaker 6: I would agree with you on that, and I'm sure
Speaker 6: we'll do that in the next week, two weeks ahead.
Speaker 6: But ever since the Chip Kelly exile of Howie Roseman
Speaker 6: ended and he moved back over to his rightful side
Speaker 6: of the building, he's been the best general manager in football.
Speaker 6: He has consistently constructed a winner. He has overseen a
Speaker 6: Super Bowl champion, a team that got to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 6: a change in head coaching regime, a quick rebuild, a
Speaker 6: fluid rebuild, a quick turnaround. He has taken big swings
Speaker 6: in the draft that nobody saw coming, and they've pretty
Speaker 6: much all paid off. And you know, I like how
Speaker 6: you brought up the difference between their most recent Super
Speaker 6: Bowl team in this one, the depth and the defensive line.
Speaker 7: He knew that was a weakness. They were a veteran
Speaker 7: leaden group that year.
Speaker 6: They're going to get in Lyndval Joseph, you know, the
Speaker 6: year after, and they're relying on guys like Javon Hargrave
Speaker 6: and everything else. They go and resupply. They go to Georgia,
Speaker 6: where they've got the best defensive players in college football.
Speaker 7: Get them repeatedly they don't care.
Speaker 6: Bring them all here because they're good, blue chip players
Speaker 6: and they're all playing well and they're all succeeding as
Speaker 6: a result. You got to give them all the credit
Speaker 6: in the world for doing that and then being aggressive
Speaker 6: and free agency and saying, you know what, we will
Speaker 6: top the Giants offer just enough to get you out
Speaker 6: of New York in over to Philly, Saquon and add
Speaker 6: another piece and maybe the final piece of this puzzle.
Speaker 7: We'll see if it ends up being a Super Bowl
Speaker 7: winning puzzle.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Georgia Bulldogs. Let's listen to one of them,
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith after the game talking with our friends Stacey
Speaker 1: Dale's for NFL Network on Complimentary Football.
Speaker 2: Man, just offense and defense working together. Man one hand
Speaker 2: washes the other. Special teams is the soap in between. Man,
Speaker 2: That's what I love about it. Hey, man, those guys
Speaker 2: we all play our hearts out every game, and then
Speaker 2: that's what I just want to see, you know, God
Speaker 2: smiling and happy out of this.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Nolan again, just because I like the
Speaker 1: vibe that he's bringing and I like it when guys
Speaker 1: swear man just grit.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: We talk about man, if they don't score, they don't win,
Speaker 2: and you know they put up some points. But man,
Speaker 2: we go out there and play defense with prime man
Speaker 2: and that's what I love about Philly and it's just
Speaker 2: like the city that we live in.
Speaker 3: Man, we played defense tough and hard knows. That's right.
Speaker 3: I hope they had that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I wasn't live on NFL networks so
Speaker 1: they didn't have to bleep it. Good job, Noan Smith
Speaker 1: and that entire defense which could get a big addition
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Brandon Graham asked after the game
Speaker 1: in the locker room by some reporters about whether he
Speaker 1: could possibly return. This has been bubbling up in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: leading up to this week. Know for instance, Zach Berman
Speaker 1: has mentioned it on his podcast, and Brandon Graham said
Speaker 1: he had a meeting on Monday morning with the medical
Speaker 1: staff the Eagles, and we're going to see what happens.
Speaker 1: We're going to see what happens after some tests, and
Speaker 1: so there's a chance that they could get an extra
Speaker 1: pass rusher who would be a great, a great bonus,
Speaker 1: nice team and has a nice history in Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: which Tom Brady's in attendance for this time. Tom won't
Speaker 1: be on the field, but you know Tom will be
Speaker 1: there in the booth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he'll make some mentions of that. Of that particularly,
Speaker 4: we got a Nick Foles shout out yes, Tom, referencing
Speaker 4: the ball.
Speaker 3: He handled that well.
Speaker 1: At first, Kevin Burkhart brought up that Nick Foles was there,
Speaker 1: and there was like a protracted, awkward silence, which happens
Speaker 1: pretty often in Tom Brady broadcasts, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, you're not going to just take this poorly,
Speaker 1: are you. And then he made a good so it
Speaker 1: was a human moment where he said he's just jealous
Speaker 1: that Nick caught his pass and Tom Brady did not
Speaker 1: catch it.
Speaker 4: It's all because he was trained in the crucible of
Speaker 4: the most discussed celebrity roast of all time.
Speaker 1: For some reason, that was the most points by the
Speaker 1: way shuck in a conference championship game ever, not by
Speaker 1: the Eagles, but but combined the total of seventy eight points.
Speaker 4: Look at that NFC East teamwork working together to accomplish
Speaker 4: a goal NFC beast.
Speaker 3: So you say you're already leaning one way.
Speaker 6: I do like that.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are an extremely credible opponent. I guess that's obvious,
Speaker 1: but the Chiefs feel so inevitable that and I know
Speaker 1: it didn't happen this way last year, but even the
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers felt a little inevitable to me, And
Speaker 1: of course it wasn't inevitable.
Speaker 3: Sports are never inevitable.
Speaker 1: It went to overtime, and they were a really good
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers team, And yet this Eagles teem the
Speaker 1: way they're coming in with all this talent. Uh, the
Speaker 1: opening line out in the Desert was one and a
Speaker 1: half for the Chiefs. That is sounds just about right
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs would be slight favorites, but not heavy favorites.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's not the one that America was rooting for.
Speaker 1: I feel like people wanted the Bills certainly today, and
Speaker 1: if the Ravens had made this game, they would have
Speaker 1: wanted the Ravens. But it's a hell of a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and I do think the Eagles are much better representative
Speaker 1: from the NFC than the Lions would have been or
Speaker 1: any of the other teams that could have possibly made it.
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles' highest ceiling is so much higher
Speaker 1: than the others, and in their base we've seen this
Speaker 1: year is pretty darn good.
Speaker 6: I don't know, ye, Marty spin it's a clash of
Speaker 6: the Titans. I think that the only weakness in this
Speaker 6: matchup is Kellen Moore. That's the only thing that concerns
Speaker 6: me about the you know, I mean, Vic Fangio just
Speaker 6: did a great job defensively with a team that's extremely talented.
Speaker 6: They're going against an offense that's methodical but can also
Speaker 6: catch you by surprise sometimes. And you know what Spags
Speaker 6: brings on that defensive side against this Eagles offense. It's
Speaker 6: gonna be a hell of a Battle're gonna have the
Speaker 6: next two weeks to talk about it. I'm fired up
Speaker 6: about it, and I think that it's the Super Bowl
Speaker 6: that we deserve, even if people are tired of the Chiefs, because.
Speaker 7: Look, let's face it, I know we're tired.
Speaker 6: We were tired of the Patriots when they were winning, right,
Speaker 6: But you have to acknowledge and appreciate greatness when it's
Speaker 6: in front of you. And this is an incredible run
Speaker 6: and maybe the Eagles will be the team that dethrones
Speaker 6: the Chiefs and everybody will be happy. But we'll find out.
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, that's one of the best
Speaker 3: Super Bowls I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I don't need to go through the whole like Andy
Speaker 1: Reid against the Eagles thing all over again. Although it
Speaker 1: is kind of a thing, it's a thing. It's hard
Speaker 1: to ignore. It's a different Andy Reid now. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Andy Reid going for fourth down, by the way
Speaker 1: on his own forty yard line, having a sense of
Speaker 1: where they were in the game. I know, like, we're
Speaker 1: not talking about that game anywhere, but I thought that
Speaker 1: was the most Andy Reid has found fourth down religion
Speaker 1: than any moment of his entire career. It was a
Speaker 1: subtle moment and that came it was on his own
Speaker 1: forty I was actually stunned Andy Reid was going to
Speaker 1: go for it. And you mentioned Howie and all the
Speaker 1: great jobs. I mean that he's done. How about that
Speaker 1: analytics department. They've invested more in analytics, and that's what
Speaker 1: tells you to invest in those big offensive linemen and
Speaker 1: defensive linemen.
Speaker 3: That's part of the strategy.
Speaker 1: And the head of their analytics department, Alec Halliby, getting
Speaker 1: it done. Didn't get a job in this GM cycle,
Speaker 1: but they're building up that team. I mean, he'd be
Speaker 1: a great candidate one of these years because this team
Speaker 1: just they keep getting it done to the point where
Speaker 1: everyone's coping them.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to Hannaby, like out there in the
Speaker 4: lab cooking up the algorithms for fourth downs and all
Speaker 4: the machinations and the beakers are bubbling, and then the
Speaker 4: paper spits out to Andy Reid and he's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're gonna run the play we always run.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, And yeah, you know you don't need numbers.
Speaker 6: I can tell you right now without all the numbers.
Speaker 6: And I very much appreciate analytics. It always starts and
Speaker 6: ends in the trenches. You could have came to me
Speaker 6: for that.
Speaker 4: We're going to have We're gonna have fifteen rolls to us, right,
Speaker 4: He's gonna we're gonna have option in the flat and
Speaker 4: he could run it and you can pass it and just.
Speaker 7: Give him one hot That's all I ask.
Speaker 5: And I'm Brady and I'm thinking Vic Fangio is is
Speaker 5: gonna have a plan.
Speaker 3: That love it. It's a great matchup, Yes, and sports
Speaker 3: is not inevitable.
Speaker 1: When when Madison Keys won one of the most stirring
Speaker 1: sporting championships I've ever seen at the Australian Open, over
Speaker 1: the week, and I thought of the very rant that
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybond made last week about how the people who
Speaker 1: say you couldn't do it, that they never could do it,
Speaker 1: that they don't have the championship medal inside of them,
Speaker 1: that they never pay for their sins in the end.
Speaker 1: And I know people listening don't follow Tennis close into shill.
Speaker 1: This was the ultimate version of that. A person who
Speaker 1: had been dismissed so many times as a choker that
Speaker 1: at this point they were completely ignored as even a
Speaker 1: real candidate to do something not only one, but one
Speaker 1: with one of the greatest runs of excellent play against
Speaker 1: the best possible field ever. So if that's possible, we
Speaker 1: could absolutely get Kellen Moore in a one and a
Speaker 1: half point underdog.
Speaker 3: Eagles team to dethrow these Chiefs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Alnis Wady to become the new head coach of
Speaker 5: the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 7: Look you gets on the plane of New Orleans, dammit.
Speaker 1: Yes, shout out to Shout out to Kellen Moore, Shout
Speaker 1: out to the Saints. We're gonna talk a lot about
Speaker 1: all the coaching machinations.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we have a new Cowboys coach.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Pete Carrollson back in the NFL and he's
Speaker 1: a Raiders coach. What we're gonna do all that on
Speaker 1: Monday show? I just felt like that deserves its own conversations. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we will be doing a show on Monday with
Speaker 1: the Great Night Tights of Yahoo Sports. But wow, it
Speaker 1: has been so fun doing these shows. We've got one
Speaker 1: more from the super Bowl, but this is the last
Speaker 1: one in the Chris Wesleyan podcast. Do you for the year,
Speaker 1: Thank you Patrick for your service, Thank you Shook from Cleveland.
Speaker 1: And Yes, when Super Bowl fifty nine is set, I
Speaker 1: think we finally did it.
Speaker 3: Football's back.