WEBVTT - Dear White People... Feat. Van Lathan 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:22.279 Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:24.840 I'm Erica and I'm Nyla. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.160 Happy Wednesday, Happy hump Day, Happy Hemp Day. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:33.120 How are you? I'm okay, it's been quite a week. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:34.639 It's a lot going on. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:36.599 How's your week? 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:37.319 Then? How are you? 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.479 I'm not feeling great, honestly, like I've had the g yesterday. 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.559 I was feeling a little better today. I'm like, I 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:52.480 don't know, I just feel I don't want to say helpless, 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.480 but I do in some ways. I don't not like obviously, 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.880 I know, like there's a lot going on and then 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:00.080 we're empowering ourselves. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.080 But I'm just I don't know. I guess I'm just 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:03.880 worried about the future. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:08.840 But I'm definitely worried about that. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:10.480 Yeah, I'm very worried about the future. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.560 Twenty twenty is relentless. Huh. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:14.959 Yeah, it doesn't let up. 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:21.240 But you know, with everything going on, with George Floyd's 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:26.360 death and so many just so many deaths at this point, 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:27.720 you know, I think. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.440 Our people are at a they're done. I'm done. I'm tired. 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.760 I'm tired too, and like you know, as women like 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.840 what kids, except it's exhausting. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:39.440 It is exhausted. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.200 I don't even know my daughter's vib I don't even 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.760 know how to have these conversations with her right now. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.600 I haven't really, but I don't know. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.760 I wanted to when me and really we're talking about 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:54.160 this this week's episode. I know you guys have probably 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.440 been listening to a lot of podcasts talking about what's 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.800 happening and for us, like for me, my but my 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:04.040 big concern like what I just can't stop thinking about, 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:05.480 and all the people that I've been hitting up are 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.440 like the black men in my life, like are you okay? 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:09.000 You good? 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.160 I love you, I appreciate you, you know, and like 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.520 for this week's episode, I really wanted to have on 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.560 someone who I respect and who I think you know, 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:22.720 is well versed in talking about many many topics including 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.240 you know, what's happening right now. 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.600 So I'm really excited to have you on. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:27.040 Van. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:31.200 Hi, Van, we have a van. This is Van Lathan. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:34.399 You guys know Van if you've been listening to our podcast. 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.359 He was on our podcast last year, we were on 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:38.320 his this year. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.800 He's a friend of good Mom's. Uh so, welcome. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.000 What's up? Why are you always appreciate that? 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.800 Glad you guys are doing well and appreciate the transparency 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:58.280 about the conflicted feelings of of uh, you know, your 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.000 headspace in terms of what's going on right now. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.919 I feel like everyone feels the same way. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:02.800 Yeah. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.280 I mean I FaceTime Van today and I think my 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.000 phone died in mid of, like mid of my despair. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.760 I was like, Van, I'm helpless. He's like, listen, click. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:18.320 I was like, okay, so much that He's like, you 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:19.400 should not feel helpless. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:24.200 I'm like, I know, it does feel helpless. It does 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:28.600 feel it feels like what the fuck I'm honestly, I'm 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.960 just tired, Like I'm exhausted. Being a parent is exhausting 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.799 being a parent to a black child, Like to think 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.040 that you let them out into the world or even 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.240 to expose them to understand the concepts of this life 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.000 that just don't make any fucking sense at all. You know, 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.680 like that is a very hard lesson to teach. That's 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.200 a heartbreaking lesson to have. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:48.160 To teach a child too. 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.160 So and then like, you know, me and Erica are 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.320 from the valley. I would say the majority of our 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:54.040 friends are not. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.360 Black, And what no, not yourself. My majority of my 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.280 friends are not white. I don't really have white friends. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:01.840 You do have white friends. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.880 I have like two white friends. I'm not and I 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.240 love them. I'm just saying, like, speak for yourself. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.680 I do have black friends, but here, like in in 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.920 the valley, in LA, most of my friends are not black. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:12.920 No, I can't. 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:14.840 I can't say most of my friends are black and 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.400 here in this state, in the city, but like across 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.200 the spread of the nation. Yes, I have a lot 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.040 of black friends, but like my closest friends here outside 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:26.920 of you are not black. And honestly, like I I'm 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.200 just I don't want to talk about this topic. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.560 I'm letting you know the next BT Instagram Live takeover. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.279 I need more ship, you say my face. Man, I'm like, 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.640 you don't let me finish. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.680 I'm like, you're on your own island, bitch. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.240 You better not leave me on this island, the San 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:54.560 Fernando Valley island. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:55.040 Bitch. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:05:01.159 You know what it is. First of all, honestly, the 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.479 point is, yeah. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:03.080 Make the point. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.560 I have felt that I don't. I don't really have 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:08.040 a lot. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:12.520 Of patience to discuss these topics with certain people I 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.400 don't like at this point, like just right now, in 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.440 the like these last couple of days, Like, I know 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:17.920 people want to be active and want to have their 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.400 input and people care, but like if you say the 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:26.039 wrong shit to me, I can't be delicate with your feelings. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.160 This week, like I've found myself ignoring a lot of. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.360 Comments just because I don't I can't explain them all. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.680 You know, I don't want to talk about the. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.680 Small businesses that are getting like looted and how sad 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:38.039 that is. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.840 I don't. I can't. I don't have enough. I don't 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:41.640 have energy for it. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.040 So I'm not saying I don't have a lot of 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.480 black friends. The majority of my friends are black, Erica 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:51.800 and Van okay, but here in the valley the people 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.120 I've grown up closest to, and Erica, I don't know 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.000 what the fuck she's talking about her twelve black friends. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.880 I don't know a lot of them. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.560 Cause I don't have friends the three that I have, 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:06.120 and I. 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.039 Don't know if and I know other people not only 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.520 with like the people close to me, but like big 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.359 brands that I'm like some brands that are not saying 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.919 shit that maybe I shop at or just people on 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.600 it's my social you know, who are you know pressing 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.280 those baby hairs down all week, but I ain't said, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.560 you know, love, love all the hip hop culture, love 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:30.520 all the black daddies, no words, crickets. It's bothering me. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.520 It's bothering me. And I'm also I'm questioning, like is 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.400 it trendy right now to be like woke and want 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.280 to be a part of the conversation or is this 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.840 genuine care? Because I'm tired, because I've seen this shit 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:46.680 a lot. It hurts, it's painful, it's hurtful. Like, are 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.680 are you guys just jumping in right now because it's 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.520 convenient because I don't have time for that. Sorry, I 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:53.000 had to get it. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:53.719 Off my chest. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:54.920 Now I get it. 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.400 Like what I'd say, first of all, a couple of things. 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.960 There's a reason why people are their fuses are so 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.840 much shorter in terms of things right now. And one 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.200 reason is that, like, you know, let's say, like we're 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.040 in the game now, this is the game, Like we're 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:15.160 on the biggest stage as a society, as a culture, 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.440 as a group of people, Like we're this is the game. 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.720 Like if you spent your entire life training for the Olympics, 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.520 you can fuck up and practice all you want, right 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.840 you can stumble when you got your skates on, you 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.400 can fall when you're running. You can have the fucking 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.200 javelin go crazy, or the poll vall poll slip out 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.360 of the thing. It's okay, like you're still working towards 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.800 whatever you're working towards. But when you get there and 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:44.960 everybody's watching and the stakes are so high and everybody 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.440 is on edge because what happens in the next couple 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:53.040 of days changes the trajectory of your life. That's when 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.600 you got to be at your best. And I think 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.240 for better or for worse, that's where we are right now. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.720 You want to see the best from people because the 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.760 stakes are so high. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:03.480 This is the. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.320 Olympics of social discourse right now. This is as serious 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.000 as it's going to get, or maybe. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.480 Not maybe maybe not. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.400 Hopefully as serious as it's going to get in our lifetime. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.200 So anyone who hasn't really put the work in and 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:23.360 hasn't practiced and done the work to get to where 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.280 we are now, you don't want to have to explain 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.680 it to them now because we don't have any time 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.480 to explain it to them now. 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.200 Because we got to be active and we need the action. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:38.160 Really, as far as any of the fake activism, I 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:39.880 gotta be honest with you. Of course, there's some of 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.080 that out there. Almost anything that you see from a 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.920 corporation is fake. A corporation does not tell you how 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.640 much they love you by posting something on Instagram. A 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.960 corporation tells you how much they love you with a checkbook. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.720 A corporation is a soulless entity that exists in order 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:03.160 to make money. Everything that corporation does is around money. 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.319 When they want something, they pay for it. So when 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.320 a corporation cares about Black lives matter, When a corporation 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.080 cares about black people, what they do is they will 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:16.240 donate a half a million dollars a million dollars or 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:16.880 something like that. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:17.280 Somewhere. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.560 I think I saw a peloton maybe it was the 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:23.720 bike company. Half a million bucks. That's what you demand 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:27.240 from a corporation. An Instagram posts. They could have an 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.040 intern do that in thirty seconds. That does not matter. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.800 But other than that, like the fake activism, it doesn't 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.960 really bother me that much because there's too much else 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.520 on our plate to be concentrating on it. It's annoying, 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.800 it definitely is annoying. I'm definitely with you, on that 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:44.520 it's annoying. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:45.559 I think it's more. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.360 So like if you want to educate yourself, there's a 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.360 lot of information out there, Like they're so like I 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.439 was sitting here with my friend this morning and one 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.240 of his you know, his white homeboys, called him and said, 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:01.480 I'm on your side. My family is I'm trying to 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.680 explain shit to them. How do I explain shit to them? 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.440 What do I say? How do I say it so 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.200 that it makes sense? And I was sitting here watching 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.000 him try and explain it, and I was increasingly getting 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.000 more irritated. What is there to explode? It was more 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.200 so like it's not our jobs. Like I get it, though, 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:22.280 I get sometimes we have. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.800 To sit back and we have to be like, okay, if. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.319 We want asking for help, they're asking for help, they 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.280 want to learn, Okay, like this is all this is 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:31.959 what we all we could ask for, right. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.160 But at the same time, I'm like you, this just 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:36.800 been going on. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:40.840 First of all, like now because black people and all 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.520 people are looking at you with our arms crossed like nigga, hello, hi, 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.040 are you gonna say something or not? 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:47.680 Again? 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.080 You know, I think this time it feels more it's 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:55.079 very like individual aggressive, you know, Like I've had people, 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.640 some friends call me that I'm like, this is weird, 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.400 like me asking them, I'm a hey, like I get it, 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.480 I appreciate it, but I'm just like, what is it 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:04.640 about right now? 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.640 That was different than all the other times? 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.160 Besides that businesses are getting looted and protested, you know 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:12.840 what I mean. Obviously, I know that we've were at 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.360 a breaking point obviously, but like I just don't I 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.080 don't know. I don't feel like it's my job to 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.520 educate you on why this is fucked up and how 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:23.679 to explain it to your white. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:29.240 Friends, especially when I'm I'm experiencing this like firsthand. These 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.640 are these are like, these are things that I've experienced 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.000 for I'm exposed to my whole life, and now that 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.199 you come in and you want my explanation, I don't 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.440 want to be your token black friend that has to 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.360 explain like basic shit, don't call me. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.120 Yeah, it's up to everybody. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:50.079 It's up to everyone in that situation to determine how 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:51.120 much they want to take on. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.240 Have you gotten those calls and like how are you 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.840 dealing with them? Because I feel like every black person 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.320 has gotten that call. Do you want to go this 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.040 time around. I've never gotten these calls before, ever before, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.600 But this time I'm not getting I mean, we've had 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.040 it on our platform, like like women reaching out who 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:07.920 have black sons or you know, white women and black 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.560 sons and stuff. How do we talk about race with 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.480 our kids? But like not not not. My closest friends have. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.200 Asked me, how do I discuss this? 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:15.920 You know? 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.440 So, how do you deal with that? 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:23.199 Oh, your closest friends, Yeah, I'm assuming are white. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:29.120 Thereby proving my one friend, my one friend. 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.840 I was like, no, you have a white friend friend? 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:32.000 Yo? 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:34.199 Interesting? 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.040 Interesting, No, she said the majority. I said, I don't. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.400 My majority of my friends are not white. They're not, 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.000 she said, the majority. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:49.480 I'm first of all, we look uh no, yeah, of 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:50.600 course I've got those calls. 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.800 I think you know, it's on the case by case basis. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:53.319 Number one. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.640 If there's somebody that I feel like this is fucking 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.480 with me, then you know, getting and my energy, you 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.239 know what I mean. But if it's somebody who actually 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:05.240 has real substantive questions about what we see going on 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.600 in our world, I don't feel like it's my duty 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.200 to do that. I don't feel like I have to 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.640 do it, but most of the time, like I'll let 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.839 somebody bend my ear on it, just because I think 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.080 it's important for people to have the information that comes 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:19.080 from the right sources. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:20.800 But listen, for. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:24.640 Anybody that's tired of explaining shit, I get it, it's 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.520 on you. I think the reason why a lot of 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.080 people are asking questions now is because despite the fact 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.240 that we've been going through this, what you have to 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:38.280 understand is mainstream America looks at this as a significant 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.680 degree of peril that they've never been in before. We've 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.360 seen uprisings, we've seen marches, we've seen protests. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.800 What we haven't seen is the entire country on fire. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.000 At the same time, the very fabric of America kind 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:55.920 of being threatened. Like, for example, right now, you can't 0:13:56.000 --> 0:14:01.960 really tell me or can't demonstrate to me the authority 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:06.480 of the police right now, because what this moment has 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.800 really demonstrated more than anything else is that ninety percent 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.520 of the authority that police have we give to them. Yeah, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:20.520 they're they're they're outnumbered by such a significant degree that 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.760 if one day we were to say we're not listening 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:29.120 to anything that you say, we would lose people. But 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:32.320 at the same time, there would really be nothing that 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.760 they could do. So what people are asking themselves right 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:40.000 now is what have we gotten from the unexplained, unspoken 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.960 social contract that we've signed with the police department. Whereas 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.120 we don't go around fucking things up and we listen 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:47.320 to them, what have we gotten for that? 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.080 And if all we get is death? Then why should 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:50.560 we listen? 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:55.240 And until society is able to answer that fundamental question, 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.200 we're gonna see this continue in some form or fashion. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:08.600 It's true, I agree, can I It's like, how do 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:09.120 I add to this? 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.600 Burn this shit up? I don't like. I mean, I 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.720 went out. I went out this weekend. I went out twice. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.239 I went out in downtown and then I went out 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:19.400 to the action. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.040 In Beverly Hills on Melrose. 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.520 And You're absolutely true, there is nothing. Though they weren't 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.040 doing shit. I had a grand ole time. There was 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.520 a lot of community. I think when I was watching 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.760 the news while Simu is simultaneously driving through the neighborhoods, 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.320 pulling up, getting out. And I will tell you this, like, 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.400 first of all, it wasn't just us. It wasn't just 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.400 black people. There's a lot of Latinos there's a lot 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.600 of like, I saw a mix of everyone. And when 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:49.800 I say, there was just pure love, Like, yo, what's up? 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.000 Black lives matter? You want a shot? Sure, I didn't 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:55.560 pay for it anymore. You want this bottle? 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:56.280 Sure? 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.200 Fuck this shit up? And you know what? 0:15:58.240 --> 0:15:59.680 And I had this conversation with one of my non 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.000 black friends. It was brief because I don't have a 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.080 lot of patience and it was you know about you know, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.720 the small businesses that you know, they may not be 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.120 able to feed their families after this looting. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.120 That could be true, that's a possibility. Probably not. If 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:17.680 you have a business, especially a. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.960 Brick and mortar, you likely have insurance for every item 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:24.040 that's in that place. And unfortunately, I think a lot 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.680 of those business owners and I saw some people of color, 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.840 you know, owned businesses, you know, and when I'm sure 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.240 it was placed there conveniently sometimes. 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.080 La, I mean. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.160 The people whose smaller businesses got fucked up. This issue 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:42.960 may not have been an issue to you at all 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.720 had that not happened to your business, and you may 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.480 not have a good taste in your mouth about it now. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.000 But I give a fuck. 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.120 I don't this this, this this is happening only as 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.000 a cause and effect of other shit happening. And like 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.280 you said, Van, when we don't do anything, we've waited 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.200 around for this. I'm not saying this is like to 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:01.800 be the end all, be all, the fucking solution. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:02.760 But I don't. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.680 I don't have sympathy for anyone because no one has 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.240 had sympathy for me and mine. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:08.919 And every time this shit happens, this is. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:10.920 The first time everybody's all up in arms because it's 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.320 brought to your for your your fucking uh doorst door set. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.880 And I kept hearing repeatedly on the news, this bitch 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.080 kept saying, Ah, these businesses, they haven't sold anything in 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.640 three months, and now look at this. Yeah. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:25.160 I was out there like. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:27.360 I was screaming. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.760 I was howling out the window like a fucking I 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:32.479 was in it to win it, and I and I 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.880 felt I felt good about it, and I felt community, 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.080 and I felt like everybody was there on the same accord. 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.840 We're angry. If you don't want to listen, do you 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.360 hear me now? I saw a sign do you hear 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.920 us now? And I was like, yeah, do you and 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.919 and that and that, and there was police just literally 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.360 standing around when people were taking shit and breaking shit 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.159 and they could do nothing about it. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.800 And it was it dawned on me that that's true. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:54.919 There's power and numbers. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.040 But also the truth of the matter is, which scares me, 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.919 because I'm a fucking conspiracy theorist, is what if they 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:00.520 come and. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.640 Bomb all this shit because they can too, Like. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.840 They have the force and the means to kill a 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.480 great a lot of people, and they've shown us time 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.119 and time again they don't give a fuck. Morality is 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.600 not their main their main squeeze, nor has it ever 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.159 been humanity that doesn't matter. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.800 So I mean, are there There's obviously been. 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:23.040 People planning stuff to like entite, you know, and fake 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.280 looters and all this other shit that exists, and we 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.680 have to be aware of that too. But in the meantime, 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.159 I mean, I don't really feel any sympathy. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:33.600 Oh go, I was gonna say. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.639 I think historically it's been shown that unless you use force, 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:42.360 shit doesn't change. I mean, being quiet, especially when you're 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.320 black or a person of color, sitting back and waiting 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:46.840 for the laws to do. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.080 What they mut that they will has never worked. 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:50.520 I mean, we said we should do that too, but 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:51.080 do it all? 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:56.120 I just mean like money talks and fucking up some shit. 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.960 I inevitably, I hope, I pray, I hope it will. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.439 I hope it'll change something. But when I was saying today, 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.240 like when I was called when I called Van today 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:05.320 and he asked me how I was doing, and I 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.760 told him I felt hopeless, it was more so because 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.000 I felt like I support everything that's happening in the 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.240 streets and the protesting and all those things. I'm just wondering, 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:17.520 like after that, what then, how do we mobilize? 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:17.960 What? 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.879 How do we change the house we didn't build? You 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:22.480 know what I mean? It has to be on them, 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:23.960 like it just has. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.239 To be burnt down to the ground and started over that. 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.760 But also that does they have enough money to rebuild 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:34.080 that shit? Yeah, it's endless. So how do we how 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.240 does it change? Is my question? 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:41.800 Yeah, so little quick hit, little quick history nugget here, 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.840 Like let's say we go way back hundreds of years ago, right, 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.560 you know you have like American colonists. You know, people 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.919 come from Great Britain wherever they come, they settle here 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:58.080 in America, right, fifteen sixteen hundreds they come here to 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.320 sell in America. Well over a couple of generations. Something 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.959 starts to happen. Right, the people that are here on 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:09.520 the mainland of America, they become Americans, like they become 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:13.520 something different than the people that govern them in England. Right, 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.359 there's an ocean separating them. They start to talk different, 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.720 walk different, think different, or want different things than the 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.480 people that were over them, Right, King. 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:24.360 George or whomever. 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.439 That's who the king was when the rebellion started, but 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:29.520 all the kings before then, they start to think different 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:29.840 than them. 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:31.119 What they then. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.000 Start to ask As their culture deviates away from the 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.760 culture that governs them and dominates them, they start to 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.080 ask for more representation for the specific way that they 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.440 look at the world, the specific struggles that they're going through, 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.240 and the specific things that happen in their lives. They 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:50.520 want to be heard. No taxation without representation. That means, Hey, 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.960 we don't want to just pay you and then not 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:57.280 have a voice in what goes on with us. That 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.920 doesn't work for us. If we're paying taxes and we're 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.080 sort of participating in citizenry the way that we should, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:05.800 we want to have a voice that we want to 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:09.880 be protected. So that doesn't happen for them, right, And 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:15.440 skirmishes jump off. But how do those people really make 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.040 their presence felt and begin what would end up turning 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.800 into America. Well, what they do is they take tea 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:27.280 and they dumping into the Boston harbor, right the Boston 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:32.520 Tea Party. They destroy the number one cash the number 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:36.000 one cash money maker of trade between them and Great Britain. 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:40.280 They show that they can economically hurt them, economically cripple them. 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:45.200 They throw things, they destroy stuff. This country was birthed 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:49.520 in rebellion. It was birthed by people who were asserting 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.400 the power and the voice of their own culture after 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:57.200 they were left choiceless. So anyone telling you that what's 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:59.200 happening now is an. 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:03.040 American the foundation of America. 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:09.080 It's literally the most American thing that could possibly exist, besides, 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:14.280 of course, slavery. So in any of this stuff, this 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:18.280 is nothing new. The question becomes, to your point, what 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:19.280 it is that we want? 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:21.080 Well, the first thing that we. 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.199 Have to do is make sure that everybody is listening. 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:26.680 So this is in steps. So now that everyone is listening, 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.639 we have to have number one, a comprehensive review in 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:31.439 policing in this country, whether or not we need to 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:36.000 defund police Department where the money, Whether whether or not 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:39.879 we need to separate police unions from political power in 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.800 this country. All of these structural changes are changes that 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.240 we are going to have to demand, and we're going 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:50.480 to have to pay attention to which group of politicians 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.680 steps up and addresses these concerns. 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:55.399 Now, it doesn't matter to me, It wouldn't matter right 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:56.600 now if. 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:58.720 Trump abolished the police. I'm not prepared to vote for 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:03.879 him no matter what he does. However, the political power 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:08.399 of not just black Americans, because it's not black people 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:15.320 against white people here, it's everyone against racists. So the 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.840 system that we've talked about, to Meela's point, can no 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:19.600 longer stand. 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.760 It's untenable the way we've been living. It can't go on. 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:27.480 It's like over now. 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:34.359 And if people don't really see that movement's being made 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:38.199 in that direction, this will get worse. It's very important 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.800 that Americans understand there's never been a nation that's lasted forever. 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:42.920 Never. 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.160 If we were having this conversation in nineteen eighty nine, 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.080 the Soviet Union was the second most powerful nation in 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:52.119 the entire world. There's never been a nation that's last forever. 0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.200 If you want America, you might have to be willing 0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:57.679 to watch it change and help it evolve. 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.000 And we'll see if the country's well ready to do that. 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:03.119 I think the scariest part, I don't know if we 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:04.920 have leadership that it's willing to do that. 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:07.679 I don't. 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:13.920 I don't have faith in our election process. I don't 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:15.879 have faith in the idea that Trump is not going 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:17.200 to be We. 0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.200 Can't have faith. That's when a system can't exist. 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.560 We can't have faith in a system that's been falsely 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:26.520 presented as a democracy and it's clearly not. Just like 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:30.080 I said, this country is birth and rebellion and then 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:34.000 brought us as slaves and said make us strong and 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.959 give us free labor for hundreds of years, and the 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.720 second that you know, and then like, oh, but we 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.239 gave you freedom, and now you're fine. Now you can 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.560 get educated, Now you're fine. The fact of the matter 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:44.919 is this is this country has been built on the 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:49.000 blood and sweat and tears of anti democracy. Literally one 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.920 third of a human being being looked at as property 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.760 that it's literally been birth on some bullshit. 0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:56.320 And then we're trying to. 0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:00.840 Fix or upgrade a system. But the system needs to disappear. 0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.480 It has to start over. The problem is you're right, 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.840 is their leadership is the leadership in the Black community 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.639 not strongly, no, because the system has made it so 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:11.240 that that to have. 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.439 I think there is leadership in the black community. I 0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.320 just think we are not united. 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:20.199 Really well, leadership won't There won't be successful leadership if 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.600 there's not a united front, if there's not community. But 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:27.440 they've done such a grand job at dismantling our community 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:28.800 and love for one. 0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:30.119 Another and love for ourselves. 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:34.359 That is really where the like it's hard to be cohesive, 0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:34.920 you know. 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.480 I think it's that also paired with just the time 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:38.080 that we live in. 0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.200 Like one of my biggest fears even when before this's 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.240 happened with even with the pandemic or whatever, was that 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:45.679 like nothing would change because we are a society that kind. 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:49.400 Of just like sheeople, where we just like it's we 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:50.520 move on so quickly. 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:52.119 Once it's done, it's done, it's over with. 0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:54.800 Just like just like all of the deaths that have 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.800 happened in our community, they're so important for two weeks 0:25:57.840 --> 0:25:58.720 and then it's over with. 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.640 Like white people, get it out, get it out, get 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:01.920 it out. 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:04.200 Do you make no mistake about it? 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.760 This right here would be different if there were other 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.840 things to do right And I. 0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.080 Think and I think, I think that being at home 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.639 really has highlights. Really why because my question too for myself, 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.600 and I was asking myself, why is this different? Why 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.920 is this different? This isn't the this isn't the first 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.520 time we've seen a black man murdered on camera by 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:27.200 a police officer. You know, this is why is this different? 0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.439 And I think to your point, a lot of it 0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.920 is is because we're home and we actually I feel 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.520 like I think our minds are changing where we are 0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.680 more present people I worry about, like I don't want 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.639 to say the younger generation, like I'm so much older, 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:42.720 but like I don't want it just feels like everything's 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.719 always moving so quickly that I just wonder, like, how 0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.920 are we We have to be relentless with this ship. 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:52.720 We have to and this has like it can't dissipate. 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:55.320 It's hard to be relentless because it's such heavy shit 0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.200 that we're we're exposed to and discussing in our community 0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.320 all the time, and for other people it's like it 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.760 could be a season and then it's passed. We've let 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:04.280 them get it out and let its pass. But for 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.000 us it is it becomes exhausting. But we have no 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.480 choice but to be relentless, just like that conversation we 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:14.320 have with somebody about like Sean, like seeing these images, 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.880 these images of our people being murdered all the time, 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:18.760 how does that trauma affect us? 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:19.800 Absolutely? 0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:20.320 It does. 0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:25.800 But do we have any other option but to continuously. 0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.480 Like let people know the reality. 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.760 Because the truth of the matter is you even still 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.360 have the option to watch the ship all the way. 0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:34.159 To the end or not. 0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:35.639 My other friend was like, yeah, I had to make 0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:37.600 my dad watch the video. I asked him had he 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.320 seen it? He hadn't seen it yet, because they can 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:44.360 people can assume they probably weren't compliant, because that's how 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.000 they think of us, because but. 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:47.480 We all know that not to be true. 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.720 But you have to, like we have to continuously continuously 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.840 go hard or else, and you know what else scares me. 0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:55.240 I don't know if you guys know that this was 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.199 the actual like reunion or like it's fell on the 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:02.400 same date as the Tulsa the Tulsa in Oklahoma where 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.359 there was like black Wall Street, so it was like 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.480 May thirty, first, first and seconds, like the same exact 0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.760 time period, which is very interesting because I think there's 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.000 like a planet that's in the house that's closest to 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.320 the Earth that also was at that time. I'm not 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.000 sure what planet. Someone said it at the barbecue, but 0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:21.119 you know, there was a Black Wall Street in Oklahoma 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.680 that we had our own banks, our own postal systems, 0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:24.760 like our own community. 0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:29.719 Basically we were thriving, and obviously, for obvious reasons, they 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:30.320 didn't like that. 0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.159 They came and killed hundreds of people and bombed the 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.719 city so that it would be hard like that. That 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.000 is really the truth of the matter is is that 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:42.959 community within like becoming cohesive that way is what is 0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.920 scaring them the most. And that's what scares me. The 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.320 more cohesive become, the more we get allies, the more 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.840 they're going to plot against us to do whatever they 0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.240 can to dismantle that. I know it, because we can't 0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.680 trust these people. That's who started slavery, that's who supported 0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:58.480 this dialogue. 0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:00.280 So that's why I think it's that. 0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.760 Important to have a dialogue completely outside of the media, 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:07.000 completely outside of this structure, because it's failed us every time. 0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:12.480 Yeah, what happened in places like Black Wall Street and 0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.440 then Tulsa, and even in Atlanta to a degree with 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.200 the race riots that they had there. Black Wall Street 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.920 was an extermination of an entire community, very intentional one 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.600 done by people who weren't doing. 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:28.000 As well as what they were there was. 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.440 There are incidents like that that happened through violence. And 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.920 then there are just other things ways that Americas maintained 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:41.960 a status quo. Obviously, discrimination, redlining, all of that stuff, 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.400 hiring practices, all of those things, and some of them 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.520 are big, major things, and some of them are little 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.800 bitty microaggressions that you can't quite put your finger on, 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.400 Like we can't reach into people's hearts and change their 0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:54.400 minds about black people. 0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:55.479 And I'm not interested in it. 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:59.040 If you don't, if you don't fuck with me, if 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:02.000 you don't think that I'm great because I'm black, that's fine, 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.160 that's your business. But what you can't do is deny 0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.160 me rights that are guaranteed to me, that my ancestors 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:11.040 bled for and earned more than any other group, that 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.600 I won't stand for. And if I don't have a 0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:19.600 government that respects my sovereignty and my ability to assert 0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:21.840 those rights, and that government has to either change or 0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:26.160 fault So what I would say to anyone is kind 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:32.280 of like, you know it, Like this is advanced citizen 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:33.160 right here in America. 0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.640 You gotta want it bad. 0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.480 Like to a lot of the problems that happened is 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:42.720 that for the last generation, we fail to be engaged citizens. 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.760 We fail to stand up and be counted, not just 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.000 in terms of when there's something that happens like this 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.360 I'm talking about in other things that we should do 0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.760 in terms of being involved what they've there's been a 0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:57.800 narrative that's been handed down to us that there's nothing 0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:01.080 we can do to change our circumstances, just fuck it, right, 0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.080 And I think that we have to hold each other 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.640 accountable for what it is that we want in order 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.600 to have thrive in communities. And when I say thrive 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:14.240 in communities, I mean black communities that have hospitals, banks 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:18.360 and schools, things like that, real self contained communities where 0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.520 we can check up on each other. Right, But in 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.080 order to do that, we're not just gonna be able 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:27.080 to It's not gonna stop at marching or protesting or 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:32.959 what I call punitive economic damage. Punitive economic damage economic 0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.080 damage because people are upset. So this is puted if 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.120 we're not just going out there and going crazy. It's 0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:42.080 not gonna stop there. It's gonna have to continue with 0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:45.800 a structural and mental realignment of what we expect to 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.840 get from the country and what we really should be 0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:49.720 expected to get. 0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:50.280 From the country. 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:54.360 Is more than a lot of people understand what I'm saying, 0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:58.280 more than a lot of people, because there are very 0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.960 few groups, no matter what they say, that can say 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:06.240 that they built America, that they gave America an economic 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.400 heads start to compete with the rest of the world. 0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.440 All of that's do to hundreds of years of free labor, 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.640 and then even after that sharecropping, and then even after that, 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.960 Jim Crow, our ancestors earn it. And if we too 0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:24.200 pussy not pussy, if we're too weak and soft to 0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:28.320 go out there and deliver on their blood sacrifice, then 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:28.920 it's on us. 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:30.760 True, and we got to do that. Now, we got 0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:31.480 to keep doing that. 0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:35.120 I think that's true. 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.280 And I think that's the part that hurts the most 0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.280 because I think I can say I haven't done enough, 0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.160 especially for someone who's a mother, who has a child, 0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.120 who you know, like because it does feel helpless, It 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.480 does feel like we're to start because like you said, 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.640 there's all on so many levels. There's so many levels 0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:55.320 of this shit. You know, on the very you know, 0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.720 like there's people who pretend they're like they're not, but 0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.840 you know, I'm sure and the comfort of their white homes. 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.440 There are comments being said and no one's being corrected. 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.440 I'm sure in the corporate office, if you know, fucking 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.720 Tyrone may be more qualified than Joe, and you know, 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:11.920 Becky might know it, she might not say shit because 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.240 it may jeopardize her job. It takes for every little 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:21.320 It's such a fucking cancer. It feels so huge to demolish. 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:25.120 And it's not even just in the United States. It's globally. 0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:29.920 They've tried to shit on us. They like rape Africa. 0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.120 China is raping Africa. 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.240 As we speak. It's just a global pandemic and it's 0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:36.560 been going on for a long time. 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.360 And I think that's why it even heightens, like just 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.320 because coronavirus exists and now this exists and there's just 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.640 like this heightened like thing. But for black people it's 0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:48.040 like I was, I was chirping off of Corona. I was, 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:52.800 But I'm like, try being black right every day, it's 0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:56.160 you might die. It's Corona every day. So and then 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.160 you add this stress and these levels, you know, and 0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:02.640 it's just an interesting it's very interesting, and I'm over 0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.920 it and I'm ready for it to be over. And 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.160 I honestly feel like by any means necessary, you know, 0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.600 I don't feel like people understand anything but blood or money. 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.600 How do you, like? How are you doing? Man? 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:15.640 Like? 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.479 I cause, like you know, I said, like I checked, 0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.360 I've been checking in on like the black men in 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:19.800 my life. 0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.360 I'm like, how do you feel? 0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.839 How do you how are you? What's your mind? What's 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.280 your mental state? What's your mind? 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.799 Like you know, it's you know what the crazy thing 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:35.279 is is that I'm well, like this is familiar. The 0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.719 disease fucked me up just because I was like, yo, 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.360 like you know, I just didn't handle it well. 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.160 Like I started watching World War Ze. 0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.200 Yeah I did that, you know what I'm saying. 0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.919 And I'm like, I'm tripping with washing. I was washing. 0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:51.880 I washed my hands so much to a point to 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.839 where my skin was cracking, you know what I mean. 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.399 Like I was checking my temperature fifteen times a day, 0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:58.480 the whole nine. 0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:03.959 So that didn't this though, this is familiar, This is the. 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.719 Reality that I already knew that I lived inside of. 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.040 These are contructs that I was already these are walls 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:14.040 that I was familiar with. And also this was something 0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:18.160 that there was no way wasn't going to happen. This 0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:23.279 is inevitability. So what I think my function is right 0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:27.640 now is to make sure that people remember it's okay, 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.520 we're going to get through this, but we gotta be 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.960 ready to see this through to the end. And that's 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:41.760 not necessarily a violent end. Any store owners out there. Obviously, 0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:45.360 my heart goes out to anyone that lost any business, 0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.520 But what I'm telling you is that the issues are 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.360 so much bigger than what you could possibly imagine, and 0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.320 there's so much deeper and the pain is so much deeper. 0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.400 There are things that me and some of my friends 0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.120 are doing in order. 0:35:59.920 --> 0:36:02.920 To make sure that people that need help and relief 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.719 to rebuild after all of this is over will get 0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:11.120 that help. In that relief, private funds, different things, money 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.440 that you can come to. I'll come out there and 0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.719 I'll help you paint over graffiti. I'll do the work 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:20.719 to undo the unrest that just happened. But I'm not 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:25.080 gonna act like what's happening on the streets. America shouldn't 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.600 have been able to see coming, and America shouldn't have 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:31.920 addressed generations ago. Okay, So that's the thing with me 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.839 as far as I'm concerned, I'm okay, Like I'm trying. 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:39.319 I'm trying to not just protect my energy, I'm trying 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.799 to amplify it. I'm trying to stay engaged, trying to 0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.839 stay in and know, and I'm trying to make sure 0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.759 that everybody realizes that as long as we lean on 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:47.800 each other, we won't fall. 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:49.759 But we have to lean on each other right now. 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:54.359 Yeah, I took time out because I realized, I think 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:58.080 as black people, we go through shit so regularly, especially 0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:01.719 in this in this space where it's just a part 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:05.960 of life that we you know, we're dealing with trauma 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:09.360 that we're not even aware of. And it dawned in me, 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.960 like I did have like a therapy thing happened for 0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:13.200 like two months. 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:14.440 Like like a year ago, and I was just like, 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:15.359 I took the. 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:20.880 Time to go and use better help, go and sign 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.240 up for a therapist, go through the thing like even 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:25.880 And I liked it because it gives you the option 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.319 to be like, do you want a woman, someone of 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:32.320 color or LGBTQ issues matter. Are you religious? Are you spiritual? 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:34.880 You know, like these these things that like we probably 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.399 you can choose and not feel uncomfortable about asking because 0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:40.040 it's on the computer and I'm really just taking the 0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.160 opportunity to be like, I may need to talk about 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.240 some shit because it's not healthy to be carrying around 0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.239 this anger and this stress. And it can and it 0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.680 can be directed incorrectly. 0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.560 It bleeds into all the aspects of your life. Yeah, 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:56.920 it starts to bleed into it. I mean all the trauma. 0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:01.200 Like it's so much anxiety. There's so much anxiety. Like 0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.080 even thinking about the conversation I'm gonna have to have 0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:06.600 with Luna and like asking her do you want to 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:07.080 go protest? 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.040 And she's like what is that? And like, you know, 0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.200 protests fight for our rights. 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.600 She's just looking at me like I'm fucking crazy and shit, 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:16.719 but it's just it saddens me, you know, and I'm 0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:18.880 gonna I have to talk to someone to have the 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.919 conversation to figure this shit out, and like you said, 0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.960 it takes leaning in and using the resources and really 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.200 first admitting that this shit hurts and it's not it 0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:29.439 should not be a part of life. 0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:33.839 This is not normal. It's not normal. It's not no. 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.560 And I think I think, you know, we we've I've 0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.719 always been an advocate for therapy, and I think unfortunately 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.400 in our community, I feel like it doesn't feel like 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.439 an option, it doesn't feel like it's affordable, it doesn't 0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.240 feel like we're supposed to be talking about our business. 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.880 But there's a lot to mean to unpack aside from 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:55.200 just daily life shit. The trauma of like seeing people 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:59.520 die daily. Are people die daily? That's for nothing, it's traumatic. 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.160 White people don't see videos of their people dying on 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.080 Instagram and every month. 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.000 And then read comments how people have the privilege you're saying, oh, 0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:11.000 they weren't being they weren't being compliant. 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:12.359 Mm hmm. 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:13.960 That's traumatic for me. 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.359 The fact that you responded this way, that there are 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:18.919 people that are seeing what i'm seeing, watching the same 0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.440 ship that I'm seeing, and you have the fucking audacity 0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.080 and privilege to say some. 0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.480 Ship that it is just not there. That is what 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:26.680 really fucking scares me. 0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:34.240 Yeah, well remember now everyone take breaks, Yeah, take breaks. 0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:38.400 Well, I don't watch It's not like you're not you're not. 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:41.200 You have to take breaks. I'm not. 0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:42.640 I mean, look, I watch. 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:51.120 George Floyd video just because, can you guys hear me? Yeah, yeah, 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.200 I said, I watched George Floyd video after a watch, 0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:56.160 just because it just kept it was just pounding me 0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:57.960 boom boom. 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:02.320 I tried to not watch at first. I can't. I can't. 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.200 I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I already 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.759 know I know how it ends. But then I just 0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:07.920 I had I had to. 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:08.920 I had to. 0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:10.719 Yeah, yeah, I had to. I had to see it, 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.879 and I wish it never happened. But as far as 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.200 the video, I needed to see it. I needed to 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.920 see it to understand, to to to really be engaged. 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:24.000 But you know, Sean Sean, what Sean is doing is 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.120 is uh and what other people that put the videos 0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.120 out and stuff like that, what they're doing is valuable 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.160 work for a lot of people. I know that there 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.680 are a lot of different opinions on on on Sean himself, 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:39.440 but he he, there's valuable work, valuable stuff that people 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:41.120 do as far as putting those videos out. But that's 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.640 not for me, Like my brain doesn't really work in 0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.120 a way that I can ingest all of that. What 0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.160 I just needed to know is where my guns need 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.320 to go in terms of like my my my mental weaponry, 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:56.880 and my physical presence. But I cannot exist in some 0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.759 of the worlds that I exist in and just watch 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.200 black people being destroyed every day. 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.080 I can't do it. I'll freak out. 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.399 Y'all saw I fucking freaked out on the people last year, 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.960 so like like I'll like like. 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.160 I'll freak out. I can't, Like I can't do it. 0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.560 It's like it's not mentally, I don't have the restraint 0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:20.160 and I don't have the Uh really, my my bowl 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.600 isn't that big. I gotta empty stuff out of my 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:28.200 head sometimes. But look, all of this shit should like 0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.240 you guys are mothers, and you guys are very proud, 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.360 and you guys are so it's just fun to watch 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.520 people be loving parents. Like it's always fun to watch 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.040 people love it because at first you get annoyed when 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:40.920 you don't have kids. 0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:44.160 You're like, hey, on the reil, stop it with the 0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:45.000 kiddie bullshit. 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.200 Like it's like it's like whatever, But after a while, 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:53.759 just you do after a while, seeing someone pour so 0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.200 much of their self and their existence into somebody else's 0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:01.640 happiness and somebody else's growth and somebody else's evolution and protection. 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:04.680 You can't help but be enamored with it. 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:06.839 You can't help but be drawn to people who care 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:12.320 that much about somebody else. And that's why it's important 0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.360 for people to really do the work to make a 0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:18.960 better world, because as crazy as it sounds, we've all failed. 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:25.840 If in twenty years it's still hashtags floating around like this, 0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:27.840 this could either be a time in America that we 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:32.160 looked back on, or this could be it and it's 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:32.800 up to us. 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:37.080 And I you know, people always say, you know when 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.200 your parent, like you want to leave your kid to 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.279 a better world, or you worry about the world that 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:45.279 you're leaving them too, And that has that I feel like, 0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:49.640 has been the source of so much anxiety for me, 0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:54.160 Like I'm really scared about that. It's not like oh, 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.319 girls are wearing like thongs on the street, or like 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:00.120 what kind of world am I leaving her too? Like 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.640 people are torking on the camera. It's more like I'm like, 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:05.480 is there gonna be a world? 0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:06.279 Like? 0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:08.239 Am I cool leaving you here? 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:09.759 You might have to come. 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.120 I feel guilty you might have to come, And yeah, 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.480 do I need any more kids, Like I want to 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:17.719 see how this plays out first, Like it's just it's 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:22.280 a scary, scary world, and like yeah, like my anxiety 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.200 has been bigger more than ever, which is why I 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:25.440 take mushrooms now. 0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.840 Yeah, honestly, mushrooms have help. You should try them. I 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.360 try them then, for really you. 0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.520 Should telling me about that. How do you do the mushrooms? 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:37.479 Like what do you I've never I've never taken that before, 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:37.799 Like what do. 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:39.560 You do well them? You can do differently. 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:41.279 You could just crush them up a little and put 0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.200 them in like some yogurt with granola. That's the best 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.400 way because I taste not good. Or you can get 0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:46.880 them in chocolate form, or you can get them in 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.440 little capsules. But however way you get them. 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:50.160 I don't know. 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:54.160 I've just had to kind of like depart from my reality, 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.399 from my reality here, and it's like not that I'm 0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:57.200 like when I take them. 0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.600 I'm like I'm somewhere else. That's not what it is. 0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.440 It's or so like I don't know I'm able to 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:06.200 separate them from my anxiety and still be like Okay, this, 0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:10.200 I'm present, this is what's happening. This is not what's happening. 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.200 This is not important. My anxiety is not me and 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:17.200 like that, but that idea that leaving my child into 0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.640 this world of like not knowing, like are you gonna 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:21.399 It's like. 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:24.600 I don't know, Like I don't even know. 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.360 We have to raise soldiers, but then we have to 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.120 be your soldier in or to raise a soldier, And 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:33.480 that's where we need to start, because nothing will change, 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.879 nothing will change unless we start, and then they won't 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.120 even understand what that means until we start, you know. 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:41.400 There, we just have to do better. 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:46.000 I mean no, I mean no, I mean we gotta 0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:50.319 do us. They gotta do better. We just gotta do us. 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:52.719 And when I say do us, I mean listen, man, 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:55.040 I know that there's a lot of penny bickering that 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:58.640 goes on between black Americans sometimes, and a lot of 0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.839 it has to do with sort of how things have been. 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.680 You know, there's not a lot of slots. We fight 0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:05.040 for the. 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:08.080 Same slots, you know what I mean, if it's you 0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.480 walk into a room like I never forget when I 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:15.319 was at TMZ, there was actually a point where you know, 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:19.640 I had made my sort of identity as the black 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:20.520 guy on the show. 0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.480 And so because I was the black guy on the show. 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:24.200 I never forget. 0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.200 This is one of the moments that I really caught 0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.839 myself because I had made like my first year two 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:30.680 there being a big deal on a TV show or whatever. 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:32.960 I have made my identity as a black guy show. 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:36.400 So whenever another black dude walked into TMZ, I'll be like, 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:40.759 oh shit, Yo, is this nigga better looking? Is he 0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.560 gonna be smarter? Is he gonna be like? 0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:44.360 I don't know. 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:46.160 There's not enough room for both. 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.400 Yeah, there's not enough room. And do you know the 0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.600 way I dealt with that. 0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:58.840 I dealt with that by fiercely combating that and trying 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:02.399 to prop up as much as I could anybody black 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.400 that walked into that office because I could not allow myself. 0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.239 I was around thirty one or thirty two, then thirty two, 0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.360 around forty now, I couldn't allow myself to become the 0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:16.560 nigga that tries to dominate the space wherever he is 0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:17.640 so that no other. 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:19.840 Black people can get in. I had to exercise that 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:20.359 out of. 0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:25.120 Me, because that feeling happens because you don't know if 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.120 somebody's gonna come in and kick you to the bet 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.760 because they're not enough voices, they're not enough people. 0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.120 But we have to get rid of some of that. 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:35.600 As far as us, what we do together and how 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.279 we view each other together, as far as some of 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:41.360 this other structural stuff, it's on them. 0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:42.279 It's on them. 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:46.000 It's on the white American power structure to decide whether 0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.239 or not they want a country or not, whether or 0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:51.120 not they want workers, whether or not they want businesses, 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:55.000 whether they want a copaestic flow and a sharing of 0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:56.960 American wealth if they don't want that, I. 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.040 Do agree with you, But I also think, and I 0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.680 know you say, like we have our own mental like 0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.120 things like like what you what you shared with your 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.120 you know your dynamic when you see him and saw 0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.400 another black man walk into you know, your your workplace. 0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:13.640 I feel like. 0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:19.799 Black people though, like we kind of like we've been 0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:25.360 so taught that we need white things, Like we don't 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:30.479 buy black generally. We don't even when we're told this 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.640 is what can help uplift us, even when we see 0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:37.080 white people killing us, we don't do it. It's like 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.120 a habit. And I don't know how you unbreak that habit. 0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:43.239 I mean, I think you chip away at it, but 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.160 it's like, are our Nigga's gonna stop buying Christian Dior 0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.919 and this and that to support some other luxury black 0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.319 brands to help uplift us and empower us. 0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.640 I don't know. So the white people. 0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:58.880 Are always gonna get our money, I mean not always, 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:00.360 I hope not, but like I don't I don't know 0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:01.239 how that changes. 0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:02.840 They have endless money. 0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:06.040 We have to educate ourselves to recognize how that they're 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:09.240 economics like there they have to like that's where. 0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:09.880 The power lies. 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.320 And if we make excuses to not buy from one another, 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.440 oh you know, you know so and So's customer service 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.200 is poor, this is slow, this is the technology is low. 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:20.480 So I'm gonna have to go with this major brand, 0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:22.279 this major brand, this major brand. It does it takes 0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.400 for us to educate, you know, to be educated in 0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.960 those places. And and I honestly think this all times 0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:29.719 for it to be it could work. 0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:30.680 It should work. 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:35.640 We are excelling at such like black women specifically business owners, 0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:39.160 you know, like just black in corporate America, and the 0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.879 and the rate at which we graduate from college. We 0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:48.920 are blooming even despite clear traps to do otherwise. You know, 0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:52.160 So I think now's the time if anybody. I think 0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:55.000 it's I think you're right. There has to be we 0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.759 at some point we have to make decisions because economically 0:48:57.800 --> 0:48:58.800 is where the shit matters. 0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:01.399 Those they care about their pockets, that's all. They give 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:02.719 a fuck about pockets. 0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:04.560 I mean, because I would love like I mean and 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:06.839 to your point, like we are blooming in spite of 0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:08.759 you know what I mean. So just imagine if there 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:11.359 was none of that, the like. 0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:13.759 Well, that's what's scary for them, And that's what that's 0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.000 what scary for me, is that as they see as blooming, 0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:19.680 best believe they are working up an antidote, like they 0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:22.600 are trying to fight against that blooming. 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:23.160 Because it's power. 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.200 It's powerful, my friend. 0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:29.520 Okay, this is another thing, the black friends that are 0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:31.840 saying dumb shit. I think that might be even worse. 0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.960 That is really the worst of all. I had a 0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:38.240 friend post some shit. I have not called her since 0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:41.480 I don't know where to begin. I am appalled and 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:42.440 shocked and annoyed. 0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:43.200 What is she saying? 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:47.719 I don't something to the effects of, like, if we 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:50.719 want other races to respect us, we have to like 0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:51.520 respect each other. 0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:54.760 Blah blah blah blah blah. 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:59.240 I hate the conversation about like black on black crime 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.279 in amongst the conversation on like police brutality, and like 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:06.600 that shit irritates me. That shit irritates me, And like 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:10.280 even though that's true, they have there are limited places 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:12.759 and spaces for you know, there's always been like five 0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:15.319 black actors as long as we've grown up. Maybe there's 0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:18.040 ten now been in the same type of movies. 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:18.960 And now we're. 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:21.879 Seeing us in different spaces in different ways, and we're 0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:25.080 weird and we could be there's it's just now giving 0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:28.840 letting us have this these spaces. But I just I 0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:37.440 feel like, really though black people genetically are community loving people. Hey, sister, 0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:39.640 what's up you want? You know, like if I go 0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:41.839 to the hood, I'm happy to walk into this. You know, 0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:44.000 even if someone's like you little skinny ass, you want 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:45.520 some get her some call of greens? 0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:46.440 Yes please. 0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:49.000 You know, Jamilla can bring home a white boy like 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.240 you know you brought him that that white boy last week. 0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:52.880 Still he's getting a plate. 0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:56.080 No one's disowning niggas for bringing home white people like 0:50:56.239 --> 0:51:00.879 we are despite everything we've been through, I guarant I 0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:02.319 I just feel like we got a lot of love 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:04.919 to give regardless, and that's crazy that we can even 0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:08.360 exist and thrive and love and feel happy despite but 0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:11.520 like that is really our superpower and like you can't 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:12.920 take that away from us, and you can per you 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:15.800 can try, but like that, I don't. I don't believe 0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:17.120 in that. I refuse to believe in that. 0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:20.840 Yeah, I mean, look, we we come from a place 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:24.080 originally where there's more land than our people, and where 0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.920 those people understood how their relationship with the land uh 0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.840 was important to their existence, and therefore how their relationship 0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:32.600 with each other was important to their existence. 0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:33.279 You know what I mean. 0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:36.560 So you come from a celebratory culture, a culture that 0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:39.560 was advanced in so many different ways in terms of 0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.919 science and art, mathematics, but a culture that celebrated life. 0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.440 And so even throughout. 0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:48.360 Everything that happened to us when we got here in 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:50.640 some wilderness where we didn't understand it, We don't know 0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.160 nothing about the types of lakes and rivers they got, 0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.160 the types of trees, they got, the types of animals 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:55.520 they got. 0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:57.200 We have no clue. We don't know where we are. 0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:57.959 Our diet as. 0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:00.680 Soon as we got settled, diet, same thing, as soon 0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:01.680 as we got settled. 0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:03.640 The first thing that we started. 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.879 To do was try to find a way to give 0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:07.279 thanks for being who we are. 0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:08.719 It's one of the things that we do. 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:11.719 When somebody looks at you and they say that, they're saying, 0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:13.800 thank you for being black, thank you for your beauty, 0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.040 thank you for what everything that you're doing. They appreciate 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:21.239 that that has to be translated into the actual foremotion 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.560 that we need to change some of those things. Like 0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:27.799 you were talking earlier about the designer stuff and all 0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.440 of that stuff, all of that's American. All of that 0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:36.480 worship of excess and all of that worship of luxury brands. 0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:37.319 And all of that prestige. 0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:40.520 That's us trying to in some way show people that 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:41.560 us similarly to. 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.560 The American dream. Yeah, that's all American. 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:49.120 Like the cultures that we came from in Africa were 0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:53.200 much more about sharing. Obviously you had some ridiculously rich people, 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:56.399 but there are much more about sharing. They were much 0:52:56.440 --> 0:53:01.480 more about each one, teach one, and the village itself 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:07.160 way more. All of this this peak capitalism, this vicious 0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:10.439 gangster version of it, that's all stuff we learned here, 0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.480 all of it. And so the reality is that what 0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:15.040 we have to do as a coaches figure out whether 0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:16.200 or not that works for us, or whether or not 0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:20.040 it doesn't. I would say, personally, the way that we're 0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:25.600 gonna build the strongest Black community, it's not by turning 0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:29.520 our backs on capitalism. It's by engaging in capitalism in 0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:32.680 a different way. We just need some solidarity, and I 0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:34.840 think that is coming, not just between black people. By 0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:37.720 the way, when I'm out of these protests, I've seen 0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:43.640 a vast coalition of diversity. The only thing I'll say is, 0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.240 you know, I always worried about the after college syndrome 0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:51.080 because the white kids be the after college syndrome. The 0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:56.120 white kids be down with you all throughout college, and 0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.080 they're right when it's time to go out there and 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:01.880 get a job, they're like, Okay, niggas, I gotta I 0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:03.760 gotta go work at JP Morgan Chase. 0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:06.240 My dad has a friend over. 0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:09.719 There, exactly. 0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:11.600 So I always worry about that. 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.880 But you know, maybe that follows that following. 0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:20.239 That's why I'm looking at my wife friends like Okay, okay, bitch, 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.799 I'll see you. I'm glad you're going go do that, 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.640 write that fight. But how let's see how long you're 0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:27.759 gonna fight this fight? When shit gets real and we 0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:29.360 really need you and we need to we need to 0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.640 call Grandpa and we need to call you know, you 0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:35.000 know your granddaddy that has this and that and then 0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:38.120 you know, like access usual. I want you to really 0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:40.839 use your privilege. Like that's the thing, Like you don't 0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:43.640 don't exercise your privilege just by going to a riot, 0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:46.080 texting me asking me if I'm okay, take me to 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:50.359 Instagram after me like I need anything, you know, all 0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:55.239 that's great. Use your privilege, Use your privilege. That's what 0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:57.640 I want to see. That's really what I want to see. 0:54:57.640 --> 0:54:59.600 That's really what matters to me when I'm when I'm 0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:02.560 when I'm thinking about you know, the people that I know, 0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:09.080 my two white friends, man, I'm just kidding, my only 0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:12.640 two friends. No, just and just and just even celebrities 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.680 and people that have like platforms that are so outraged 0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:20.240 right now, like y'all connected to the to the system, 0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:21.720 to the people that built the house. 0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:27.200 So I don't know what's up. That's how I feel 0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:29.640 about it. Like that's why I'm just like people tell you. 0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:33.240 That that's my biggest issue with like all lives matter, 0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:35.320 we're all on human race. 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:37.040 When I see pull up. 0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:38.920 When I see people put the posting pull up and 0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:42.080 Instagram and shit, and I've seen it multiple times. I 0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:45.600 don't mean just pull up to the fucking protests. I 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:47.799 just want to be clear about that because I. 0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.799 Feel like that's what that's that's what I'm concerned about. 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:53.280 Like people, these white people or whatever, non black people 0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:55.000 show up to the protests, feel like they did their 0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:55.719 due diligence. 0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:57.839 They did what they were supposed to do, and that's it. 0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:02.759 And then outside of that, now, you know, I support you. 0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:04.440 You know there's gonna be a lot of that. 0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:10.840 I mean, it's convenient, ship if you got your blinders on. 0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:14.279 If I'm living my happy white life, ship, fuck if 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.200 I'm gonna be over here stressing myself out, you know, 0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:21.680 I'm over here with Daddy's Daddy's money chilling. I mean, 0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:26.719 it's just it's it's hard being black in America. It's 0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:29.560 even hard being black in America in the valley. 0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:35.000 But remember though, like it's gonna be up to us 0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:37.400 to do the work for ourselves. Anything else is just 0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:42.160 a bonus. So if you have somebody else that like, uh, 0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:44.200 you know, it's gonna it's gonna come with you, help 0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:44.880 you and support you. 0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:50.480 That's great, but like you know what you're gonna have 0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:50.799 to do. 0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:52.560 It's like people that get a trainer and think that 0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:56.080 the trainer is gonna lose weight for them. The trainer 0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.600 is someone that helped guide you. It's it's a it's 0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:02.000 a it's a it's basically an accessory. 0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:04.440 In this it's still gonna be your effort. 0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:06.959 Your mobilization and a change in your mindset is gonna 0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:09.120 get you where you're trying to go. It's good to 0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:11.399 have allies. It's important to have allies. I would even 0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:13.920 say it's necessary to have allies. But you gotta be 0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:15.720 willing to go it alone too, you know what I'm saying. 0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:22.120 Yeah, absolutely, Anyway, all I have to say is vote 0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:23.080 in November. 0:57:23.640 --> 0:57:25.360 I know, like you know. 0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.960 That idea that that's really blended in our community that 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:35.560 your vote doesn't matter that you know, like you said Van, like, oh, 0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:37.960 it just it's just nothing matters. You just kind of 0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:38.640 like go to the wind. 0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:41.720 No, this is how it's always and look it's not. 0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:43.360 We don't have great options. Let's be real. 0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:47.840 We don't have great options, but we have an option, okay, 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:50.920 and that's when we have to take because it's I 0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:53.360 really like it doesn't just start there at the top. 0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:56.000 It does, but like it trickles down, but like that 0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:58.400 needs that. I don't feel like much progress can be 0:57:58.440 --> 0:58:00.680 made as long as Donald Trump as our president. 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.640 Oh god, he's the worst shit ever. Did you see 0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:07.400 him posing with the Bible? Oh my god, it's so 0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:11.040 First of all, he tear gassed peaceful protesters so he 0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:13.280 can get to the church that was burned to take 0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:16.280 several photographs in front of it with. 0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:17.240 The Bible, and he was. 0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:21.480 Like, is this today? 0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:22.400 It was so. 0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:24.960 I don't really watch that. 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:26.959 He used it as like a prop in a set 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:31.640 to be like, and then he used force to move 0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:33.200 the people to take the pictures. 0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:38.000 Well, he's a white supremacist, that's it. Like he's white supremist, 0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:38.320 that's it. 0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:39.320 He's just very dumb. 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:42.320 He's that. But he's also a white supremist, for sure. 0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:46.040 He's dumb. I'm surprised Jesus didn't say, Okay, that's enough. 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:47.080 I got to get back to earth. 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.560 In the moment, In the moment that Donald Trump was 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:50.840 holding up it was such. 0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:53.640 A I have to see this photo. 0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:55.880 God, it's crazy. 0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:59.720 But you know what, more than Donald Trump is just whack. Man, 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:01.240 that picture's wack. 0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.680 He's embarrassing. It's such an embarrassment. 0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:08.440 Yeah, but look man, we're gonna stay courage. 0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:10.240 Were out here on the streets about to get out 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:10.960 here in a second. 0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:12.680 Yeah, thank you so much. 0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:23.440 Appreciate you as happy to have you. Was that. 0:59:24.120 --> 0:59:31.280 I can't stand either one of you, honestly, No, but 0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:32.880 I'll call you later. 0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:37.040 Hit me up. Not ladies, stay safe, staying courage and say. 0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:38.760 You guys are the fan of Van Lathan at Van 0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:42.000 Lathan duh, bye bye bye. 0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:45.480 Well that was Van. That was great. 0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:49.160 Yeah, he always adds you know, he's just he's smart, 0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:50.560 a lot. 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.560 Of perspective to the conversation. And I appreciate his perspective. 0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:58.720 And I don't know, like I I feel like I 0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:02.360 don't sound very optimistic on this episode. I don't mean 1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:04.840 to sound that way. I just feel like today I 1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:13.440 just feel conflicted about where we are in this whole process. 1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:17.800 I definitely feel conflicted. 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:21.720 I definitely I didn't even want to speak too soon. 1:00:22.000 --> 1:00:24.560 I mean, I'm just so tired of talking about this. 1:00:24.920 --> 1:00:28.600 It makes me exhausted, Like it really makes me exhausted, 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:30.680 and it makes me sad, and it makes me feel 1:00:30.680 --> 1:00:32.840 like I'm never doing enough, and. 1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:36.280 So I guess we have to talk about it. We 1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:38.120 have to do it. It's necessary. 1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:42.560 But I feel your hopelessness, but I just don't. We 1:00:42.600 --> 1:00:43.960 can't feel hopeless because that. 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:44.640 Gets I think. 1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:47.320 It's just today I don't really feel like I necessarily 1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:51.600 feel overall like hopeless. I'm you know, I'm generally like 1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:55.040 I can see the bright side on and things, and 1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:55.920 I know that everything. 1:00:56.120 --> 1:00:57.160 I truly do believe that. 1:00:57.440 --> 1:01:03.160 Sometimes not sometimes historically you have to burn shit down 1:01:03.680 --> 1:01:07.040 to the ground. And that doesn't necessarily mean like actually, 1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:10.120 but sometimes it really fucking means that way, Like shit 1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:12.400 has got to just you need us to do over 1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:16.720 and you can't erase slavery and you can't delete what's 1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:19.640 been what's happened, but like there has to be a change. 1:01:19.640 --> 1:01:21.200 We can't. We're we're like this. 1:01:21.320 --> 1:01:25.000 Like, well, you made a really good point over the weekend. 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:26.040 I don't know, you weren't talking to me. 1:01:26.040 --> 1:01:27.960 I don't know. It's just we were having a general conversation, 1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:32.080 which even it's interesting like some even I'm even such 1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:35.200 in a sensitive place where like when we had that conversation, 1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:37.040 like obviously we were amongst. 1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:38.600 Friends but like I just wasn't. 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:40.800 I was just like, please don't want say anything too stupid, 1:01:41.320 --> 1:01:43.640 and I know I can't go into conversations that way, 1:01:43.760 --> 1:01:47.400 but I'm just like, please don't say anything that I'm 1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.920 gonna have to curse somebody out. And that's not just 1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:51.800 like that's just for everybody, because I've like I've had 1:01:51.840 --> 1:01:53.840 even friends that are black say some stuff and I'm like, Okay, 1:01:53.840 --> 1:01:54.680 I'm gonna have to step you know. 1:01:54.720 --> 1:01:56.480 What, though for me, I'm like, please say something so 1:01:56.520 --> 1:01:58.080 i can curse your ass out, because then I'll know 1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:00.920 you don't you don't really you don't really fuck with me. 1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:03.840 Right, That's or it's like I'm just like cringing. 1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:05.919 Hoping, or like if I love you because the people 1:02:05.960 --> 1:02:07.880 everyone that I loved was there, so I would I 1:02:07.880 --> 1:02:09.760 would have, like, you know how, Brand said, it's a 1:02:09.760 --> 1:02:11.200 case by case situation, and I. 1:02:11.120 --> 1:02:11.720 Agree with that. 1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:16.800 I'm not like white people, but I feel like if 1:02:16.880 --> 1:02:19.240 like one of my friends said some dumb shit and 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:21.080 I just felt like, damn, you really just need to 1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:24.240 educate yourself. I give them an opportunity to listen, to 1:02:24.320 --> 1:02:27.320 listen and learn and let's talk about it. But there's 1:02:27.320 --> 1:02:29.080 all but then at the end of it, at the 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:31.800 end of it all though, like there's are certain things 1:02:31.840 --> 1:02:34.120 that like if we're not in line, you gotta go, 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:37.120 you gotta go. Like that's it, You're right. 1:02:37.240 --> 1:02:41.360 But you said, but you said something about America, something 1:02:41.480 --> 1:02:45.640 about Americans and like rebellion and that like, actually, America 1:02:45.720 --> 1:02:49.040 is amongst the most docile of the countries. We don't like, 1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:53.720 there's so much fuckery happening in the White House, within government, 1:02:53.760 --> 1:02:58.200 with legislation, with fucking lobbyists and insurance companies and bullshit, 1:02:58.360 --> 1:03:01.520 so much in moral and ethical ship that is obvious 1:03:01.520 --> 1:03:02.480 and blatant. 1:03:03.120 --> 1:03:06.040 And in media and and and. 1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:09.040 It's we are just cool with it, you know everything. 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:11.160 Everybody's cool with it. And then when we turn up, 1:03:11.200 --> 1:03:13.720 Oh no, we're we're being animals, we're being louders, we're 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:17.160 being like, no, Actually, in other countries, the government, people 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:20.120 overthrow it, overthrow it, they overthrow. 1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:22.280 The bitch, and then they kill the president sometimes or 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:25.200 they exile his ass or he goes to jail. It's 1:03:25.200 --> 1:03:26.800 like we put we put these laws in place that 1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:27.920 the president can't even go. 1:03:27.880 --> 1:03:32.000 To jail, so the laws don't exist. 1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:35.520 Slavery hasn't ended it's just been substituted people with with 1:03:35.600 --> 1:03:38.480 fucking mass incarceration. It still exists. 1:03:38.480 --> 1:03:41.520 It's absolutely They put some special words over and try 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:45.120 to fucking seed it in, but bitch, it exists. 1:03:45.200 --> 1:03:47.320 So you don't give a fuck. The ship has to go. 1:03:47.400 --> 1:03:51.000 It has to And honestly, like I was listening to 1:03:51.000 --> 1:03:54.880 Wheezy's new podcast, and you guys should check out Wheezy's 1:03:54.920 --> 1:03:57.840 new podcast, What's it called Again? For facts sake? For 1:03:57.920 --> 1:04:00.240 fact's sake, And she was talking about how her mom, 1:04:00.280 --> 1:04:03.240 her mom's seventy and she's like her mom, my mom 1:04:03.600 --> 1:04:07.840 had to drink, was from a separate you know, I 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:09.480 had to go to separate bathrooms. 1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:09.760 Had seventy. 1:04:10.160 --> 1:04:10.560 Yeah. 1:04:11.040 --> 1:04:13.760 Yo, I'm just saying to what I'm trying to say 1:04:13.880 --> 1:04:16.000 is the ship it was not that long ago. It's 1:04:16.040 --> 1:04:19.240 crazy because people think that it's like another lifetime ago 1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:20.640 or a century ago. 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:22.520 It's not was not one hundred years ago. 1:04:22.640 --> 1:04:25.200 There's a meme and it shows like a part like 1:04:25.280 --> 1:04:28.160 some of the protests, like during Martin Luther King and 1:04:28.200 --> 1:04:31.400 they put under they're in color and in black and white, 1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:33.240 the same photos, and they said, can you believe they 1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:34.400 put this shit in history books? 1:04:34.400 --> 1:04:36.120 In black and white to make it seem as though. 1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:40.160 It was farther, further away, because because the mind has 1:04:40.160 --> 1:04:42.160 this precise perception. 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:44.200 Of things of when when black went to color, And 1:04:44.240 --> 1:04:48.000 it's just like, I just feel those people. 1:04:49.320 --> 1:04:50.120 Are still alive. 1:04:50.480 --> 1:04:54.960 They're just they're they're police officers, they're politicians, they're the ones, 1:04:55.040 --> 1:04:58.760 they're they're they're the president of the insurance company, they're 1:04:58.800 --> 1:05:02.000 you know what I'm saying, Like they are still among us. 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:04.600 Racism has never died. And like I keep I kept 1:05:04.640 --> 1:05:06.360 saying this meme go around. 1:05:06.040 --> 1:05:06.640 That said, like. 1:05:08.520 --> 1:05:10.720 Racists, like, racism didn't die, it's just now it's being 1:05:10.760 --> 1:05:12.000 televised or something, or now. 1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:14.600 It's being filmed, and it's so true. 1:05:14.720 --> 1:05:17.120 It's like it's never it's never been dead. 1:05:17.200 --> 1:05:19.760 But that's why I don't want to hear that lives matter. Shit, 1:05:19.840 --> 1:05:22.280 I don't want to hear that. Fucking I don't want 1:05:22.280 --> 1:05:25.360 to hear it. That doesn't like race does matter, race 1:05:25.400 --> 1:05:27.960 does exist, or else we wouldn't be having this conversation. 1:05:28.000 --> 1:05:31.600 It's very fucking it's historically mattered. And for you to 1:05:31.760 --> 1:05:36.520 fucking under suggest that it doesn't exist because that benefits 1:05:36.520 --> 1:05:38.240 your comfortability, fuck. 1:05:38.000 --> 1:05:44.400 You, absolutely, I agree. 1:05:44.800 --> 1:05:45.360 Fuck power. 1:05:47.440 --> 1:05:53.840 Uh anyway, Wow, But I will say the first night 1:05:53.920 --> 1:05:56.560 I went downtown, it was a little chaotic. Maybe everybody 1:05:56.560 --> 1:05:58.440 didn't have the same I didn't feel the same amount 1:05:58.480 --> 1:06:00.920 of that much as community as I did when I 1:06:00.960 --> 1:06:02.480 went the second night, when I went. 1:06:02.400 --> 1:06:06.280 Up up but to have the looting go for you, 1:06:08.800 --> 1:06:12.920 I wasn't looting, but we were on the front lines, 1:06:13.520 --> 1:06:14.400 were on the sidelines of. 1:06:14.400 --> 1:06:17.240 The front lines, and we were first of all, I 1:06:17.240 --> 1:06:20.040 felt like it was almost intentional. Literally, we were coming 1:06:20.120 --> 1:06:24.720 back from the beach, and it's they're showing that in 1:06:24.920 --> 1:06:28.120 the intersections with like from the helicopter, but putting the 1:06:28.160 --> 1:06:30.560 intersections in like white writing to so exactly where the 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:33.440 actions is. Then they're like the governor gets on, we 1:06:33.480 --> 1:06:37.160 don't have enough police. Please, it says on the screen, 1:06:37.400 --> 1:06:40.840 small crimes won't be like there's literally it's like small 1:06:40.880 --> 1:06:44.480 crimes won't be in fractured like everyone go yeah, Literally, 1:06:44.480 --> 1:06:47.680 it seemed intentional. I was like, is this a fucking joke, 1:06:47.840 --> 1:06:50.120 because literally the mayor gets on, it's like, we've called 1:06:50.160 --> 1:06:52.960 out forty cops from vntour County forty. You got forty 1:06:53.000 --> 1:06:55.920 to come from into our fucking county He's like, everyone 1:06:56.000 --> 1:06:59.400 just stay inside the curfew. Who's like last God bless 1:06:59.480 --> 1:07:00.000 Los Angeles. 1:07:01.040 --> 1:07:01.720 Oh shit. 1:07:02.360 --> 1:07:06.400 So literally, I was like, we go straight to the action. 1:07:06.640 --> 1:07:08.120 And then when I get out there and I see 1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:10.360 it's mostly kids, girl as teenagers. 1:07:10.440 --> 1:07:13.440 It's like everybody's dressed in black. There's signs, they're spray painting, 1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:18.040 saying you know, fuck fuck, like fuck pig cops. 1:07:18.120 --> 1:07:21.000 It was just, you know, and kids were just literally 1:07:21.000 --> 1:07:23.520 stealing furniture from furniture stores, pulling them in the middle 1:07:23.520 --> 1:07:26.680 of the street, posting up honking. There's kids going to the 1:07:26.680 --> 1:07:28.520 liquor store. Running in the liquor store. You see like 1:07:28.920 --> 1:07:32.640 five car cop cars, sirens rush by, they go by, 1:07:32.640 --> 1:07:33.680 and then nobody stops. 1:07:33.680 --> 1:07:35.520 They like all spurs from the liquor store and they 1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:39.800 just run back in like little roaches. It was hilarious. 1:07:40.120 --> 1:07:41.640 It was great. And I'm like, give me one of 1:07:41.680 --> 1:07:44.280 else bottles. Somebody hand me a bottle of bourbon. 1:07:44.520 --> 1:07:46.440 You know, it's just we got them jumped out the 1:07:46.440 --> 1:07:49.439 car at one point talking asking the kids, hey, where 1:07:49.440 --> 1:07:51.160 are you guys. Finding a lot of them from Compton, 1:07:51.200 --> 1:07:53.040 from East you know, just different parts of LA. 1:07:53.200 --> 1:07:55.240 But all people just saying like. 1:07:55.200 --> 1:07:58.880 Black Lives Matter, and like it was just it seemed 1:07:59.040 --> 1:08:01.080 not I mean, it just it wasn't violent. 1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:02.040 It didn't seem violent. 1:08:02.160 --> 1:08:05.160 Besides obviously the vandalism that was happening, it seemed like 1:08:05.240 --> 1:08:07.560 kids trying to go and get theirs. Honestly, you know, 1:08:07.600 --> 1:08:09.160 we like post them in front of the mouth. 1:08:09.320 --> 1:08:11.440 I mean, I mean, besides the fact that we're in 1:08:11.440 --> 1:08:16.360 a pandemic where they're sending people twelve hundred dollars for 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:20.559 for money, this would be like I just feel like, 1:08:20.640 --> 1:08:22.280 of course the ships, the people are gonna lose shit. 1:08:22.320 --> 1:08:23.760 People need ship right now more than ever. 1:08:23.840 --> 1:08:23.960 Two. 1:08:24.000 --> 1:08:25.000 We're in a bad place. 1:08:25.080 --> 1:08:28.880 People need ship right now. Oh you, oh so you're not? 1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:31.280 Oh you, oh so you're not. 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:34.439 So You're gonna give me hundred dollars for unemployment and 1:08:34.479 --> 1:08:35.960 a six hundred dollars check and I'm just to be 1:08:36.000 --> 1:08:38.240 able to catch up and pay six months left. 1:08:38.360 --> 1:08:40.040 No, I'm gonna go to the I'm gonna go to 1:08:40.120 --> 1:08:41.120 the liquor store of the f store. 1:08:41.120 --> 1:08:43.360 I'm gonna go cops and ship and I'm gonna resell it. 1:08:43.360 --> 1:08:45.400 It's not Gucci for sure. 1:08:45.760 --> 1:08:48.000 I mean, honestly, I head less if I didn't, if 1:08:48.000 --> 1:08:51.960 I didn't feel like maybe someone on TV like that's Jamilla. I. 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:54.879 I was fully encouraging me get everything. 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:56.880 She called me and I was like. 1:08:56.880 --> 1:08:58.679 You better really think about what you want, bitch. 1:08:58.920 --> 1:09:00.679 What do you need? What do we need right now? 1:09:03.080 --> 1:09:03.439 Okay? 1:09:03.520 --> 1:09:06.800 So we did. We got off the phone. She really 1:09:06.880 --> 1:09:07.439 hyped me up. 1:09:07.920 --> 1:09:10.280 Someone had handed me a hard drive from like they 1:09:10.360 --> 1:09:12.040 just handed it to me from outside of the Star. 1:09:12.120 --> 1:09:15.560 I was like, yes, I didn't do anything, but I'm benefitting. 1:09:16.960 --> 1:09:17.920 Then I got on the phone the Airic. 1:09:17.960 --> 1:09:19.519 I'm all Drew said I had a shot te quila 1:09:19.600 --> 1:09:21.479 from some some friends that we met on the corners, Like, 1:09:21.479 --> 1:09:22.800 oh yeah, man, I just got this cool. 1:09:23.240 --> 1:09:24.880 I was like, he just popped it open, so it. 1:09:24.840 --> 1:09:25.360 Was no corona. 1:09:25.400 --> 1:09:27.599 I was like, yes, I know. I was like sure. 1:09:28.120 --> 1:09:29.679 I was like uh huh uh huh. 1:09:29.920 --> 1:09:30.840 He gave us a shot. 1:09:32.439 --> 1:09:35.120 So we Erica gets on the line. Really I called 1:09:35.120 --> 1:09:37.160 one friend. She's like, get out of there, go home. 1:09:37.360 --> 1:09:38.600 I got on the phone the Airic and she's like, 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:40.360 think about everything we need. 1:09:40.600 --> 1:09:40.760 Well. 1:09:40.800 --> 1:09:41.800 I was like, oh my god. 1:09:41.920 --> 1:09:43.200 I was like a murderer. 1:09:43.240 --> 1:09:45.440 I was like, what do we need? We need electronics 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:48.600 and we need what else? Like a sound equipment and 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:50.880 my fake. As I was in the streets, I was like, yeah, 1:09:51.120 --> 1:09:51.840 let me think about it. 1:09:51.880 --> 1:09:53.040 Where can we go next? 1:09:52.760 --> 1:09:55.639 Completely as if I was just about to be about 1:09:55.640 --> 1:09:58.479 that life, popping down some shit so we would drive 1:09:58.680 --> 1:09:59.719 his trashity lingerie. 1:09:59.800 --> 1:10:00.400 I'm like. 1:10:02.840 --> 1:10:05.080 When you have a photo shoot, but people had just 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:07.000 started like popping this shit open, and I'm like, oh, 1:10:08.960 --> 1:10:11.000 we go trashy lunderin and I go inside, I pick 1:10:11.040 --> 1:10:12.080 up the mannequin and I'm. 1:10:11.960 --> 1:10:14.240 Like, I put it down. 1:10:14.280 --> 1:10:15.439 I'm like gotta get out of here. 1:10:15.960 --> 1:10:17.600 I'm not going to chail for laundry, but I'm not 1:10:17.640 --> 1:10:18.080 gonna do it. 1:10:18.640 --> 1:10:21.960 Just walk out. I'm just not good. 1:10:23.680 --> 1:10:26.400 Like literally, my fangs had come out, just like I've. 1:10:26.280 --> 1:10:29.479 Been riding around in the street like screaming out in 1:10:29.520 --> 1:10:32.519 the window, and I was just like following all the 1:10:32.600 --> 1:10:34.760 kids and then my fangs came out, but I'd likely 1:10:34.840 --> 1:10:37.640 I put it down. I gained adult control and I 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:41.160 left that joint without anything. So no, I wasn't looting. 1:10:41.200 --> 1:10:41.400 I was. 1:10:42.040 --> 1:10:42.760 I was out there. 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:46.920 I'm hanging with my with adventure Bay, who's super about 1:10:47.000 --> 1:10:51.080 responsible fun, and he we were like with like tally 1:10:51.280 --> 1:10:53.080 get along with some kids that we didn't know. 1:10:53.120 --> 1:10:55.240 I'm sure they're like, why are these people following us? 1:10:55.760 --> 1:10:58.760 And at one point one of the kids shouted like, 1:10:58.920 --> 1:11:02.000 I don't know how you to breaking some glass glass in. 1:11:01.960 --> 1:11:04.200 His hand and he's like I can see my bone. 1:11:04.240 --> 1:11:05.320 I was like, oh no, I can't look. 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:08.400 He's so my adventure Bay was like do you need 1:11:08.439 --> 1:11:08.920 first aid? 1:11:09.120 --> 1:11:09.880 Do you have first aid? 1:11:10.280 --> 1:11:11.960 In my head like, nigga, you know they don't have 1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:13.679 no first aid, only you have first date. 1:11:14.520 --> 1:11:17.080 Hold on, pull over to the health. These kids that 1:11:17.120 --> 1:11:18.960 we've been following that we don't know, but we think 1:11:18.960 --> 1:11:19.599 we're a part of their. 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:23.120 Posse because we're just like, yeah, yeah. He goes in the. 1:11:23.080 --> 1:11:25.479 Back of the tront gets the first daid out, like 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:27.600 giving him gaze and helping him, asking like where do. 1:11:27.560 --> 1:11:28.200 You guys turn. 1:11:29.640 --> 1:11:29.840 Drive. 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:32.160 Honestly, it was pretty exciting. 1:11:32.200 --> 1:11:33.800 I felt like I was. I mean, it sounds like 1:11:33.840 --> 1:11:35.120 good night to remember it was. 1:11:35.200 --> 1:11:36.439 I felt it was a part of history. 1:11:36.520 --> 1:11:36.840 I was. 1:11:36.920 --> 1:11:39.040 I just it was good to be there. 1:11:39.800 --> 1:11:42.320 I had the opportunity to not be home on my. 1:11:42.280 --> 1:11:45.080 Couch listening to that bitch on ABC talk about the 1:11:45.080 --> 1:11:47.400 people doing the ship saying how violent it was and 1:11:47.400 --> 1:11:49.960 how this it was and how, And when I was there, 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:53.639 I realized it was just really about rebellion and about 1:11:53.680 --> 1:11:56.000 the anger and the anguish and the sadness and that 1:11:56.320 --> 1:11:58.879 together they were just saying, this is where a community 1:11:58.880 --> 1:11:59.280 and whatever. 1:11:59.479 --> 1:12:02.320 It wasn't like it wasn't it wasn't. I it's the 1:12:02.360 --> 1:12:04.280 thing that the news portrays. It's like this all out 1:12:04.280 --> 1:12:06.680 of salt on police office. And then and then they're 1:12:06.720 --> 1:12:08.280 not here to police officers. 1:12:08.320 --> 1:12:10.160 And then I noticed they kept repeating this, like the 1:12:10.200 --> 1:12:12.200 same stores like Gucci Gucci that. 1:12:12.479 --> 1:12:14.960 Seems very urban and black to keep. 1:12:14.800 --> 1:12:18.200 Saying Gucci got locked and Gucchi, Like niggas love Gucci, 1:12:18.280 --> 1:12:20.400 we get it, Okay, we get it. But also the 1:12:20.439 --> 1:12:23.639 surf shop on fucking in Santa Monica got fucking looted, 1:12:23.880 --> 1:12:26.799 all non blacks peeling out. 1:12:26.640 --> 1:12:28.040 Of there with full surfboards. 1:12:28.040 --> 1:12:30.639 Okay, So it's like nobody wanted to cover that ship. 1:12:31.160 --> 1:12:33.599 So it was just interesting to be there and then 1:12:33.600 --> 1:12:36.559 to we were honestly watching it at the same time 1:12:36.720 --> 1:12:38.759 and just see, you know, how they're trying to portray 1:12:38.760 --> 1:12:39.800 the situation when it's not that. 1:12:40.240 --> 1:12:43.040 And bitch Beverly Hills room data was locked down. 1:12:43.040 --> 1:12:45.280 Those niggas were out there just chilling on their cars, 1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:48.200 just posted because that's really what they give to talk about. 1:12:48.360 --> 1:12:51.040 Fucking bel air the right off of Laura Canyon. They 1:12:51.120 --> 1:12:54.599 hired private security, they've they've banned it off of cars 1:12:54.720 --> 1:12:57.080 because they're they're trying to make it like you know, 1:12:57.160 --> 1:12:59.400 and truth you told people are gon probably try and 1:12:59.439 --> 1:13:00.240 run into somehow. 1:13:00.240 --> 1:13:02.040 Is because if your criminal, now is a good time 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:02.920 to be an extra criminal. 1:13:03.080 --> 1:13:06.880 Right, If I'm criminally i'm now. But that's not all 1:13:06.920 --> 1:13:09.000 that's happening. It's not all criminal, you know. 1:13:09.120 --> 1:13:09.599 It's just. 1:13:11.080 --> 1:13:14.160 Be careful of the news that you consume in high 1:13:14.439 --> 1:13:17.160 and how often turn that shit off because it's not true. 1:13:17.040 --> 1:13:20.040 And you just have to be conscious of how you're 1:13:20.080 --> 1:13:21.760 getting fed information. 1:13:21.920 --> 1:13:26.080 These the government owns fucking the radio and major television 1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:27.920 and everything else that we consume. 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:30.600 So use your fucking intuition and your witch shit in 1:13:30.640 --> 1:13:36.280 your brain and go on that right. Sorry, that was 1:13:36.320 --> 1:13:37.120 a Ryan got high. 1:13:37.240 --> 1:13:40.639 No, it's fine, it was good. 1:13:41.160 --> 1:13:47.000 Well, I am excited because we are gonna have ray 1:13:47.040 --> 1:13:49.639 on so you guys, I don't know if you guys 1:13:49.640 --> 1:13:53.960 remember we interviewed Sean King this year actually god, no 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:59.040 was it year? And we interviewed him and his wife, 1:13:59.120 --> 1:14:02.840 Ray King, and they actually started their own podcast, and 1:14:03.040 --> 1:14:04.519 you know, it's all about her. 1:14:04.360 --> 1:14:05.400 Marriage to the movement. 1:14:05.560 --> 1:14:06.800 Yeah, to the movement. 1:14:07.080 --> 1:14:11.000 She's yeah, she imagine being the wife of the biggest activists, 1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:13.479 black activists pretty much, I would say, in the world. 1:14:14.240 --> 1:14:17.799 And she just has a lot of perspective. She's so 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:20.040 so so smart as an educator. And we're having her 1:14:20.080 --> 1:14:21.800 on because I don't know, I feel like it is 1:14:21.840 --> 1:14:25.200 a good time to talk about race and talk about 1:14:25.840 --> 1:14:28.599 how are we talking about how are we having these 1:14:28.600 --> 1:14:30.200 conversations with our kids, because. 1:14:30.040 --> 1:14:31.360 Ultimately they're the future. 1:14:31.880 --> 1:14:33.599 They are Like I think about Irene and I talked 1:14:33.640 --> 1:14:35.280 about that fear of like what I'm leaving her too, 1:14:35.320 --> 1:14:37.559 but also like what am I arming her with? And 1:14:37.600 --> 1:14:39.880 like even white kids, what are we arming white kids with? 1:14:39.920 --> 1:14:42.559 What are white parents? How are white parents how much 1:14:42.600 --> 1:14:45.519 conversation with their kids? Because that is so funny. You 1:14:45.560 --> 1:14:48.400 guys have such a responsibility, you really do. And you 1:14:48.400 --> 1:14:50.400 can drop the ball very easily or you can just 1:14:50.439 --> 1:14:53.639 pick it up right now and make those changes now, because. 1:14:53.439 --> 1:14:56.000 It fucking matters, It really fucking matters, And so. 1:14:56.120 --> 1:14:58.360 I am I mean, And there's a lot of non 1:14:58.479 --> 1:15:01.200 black parents with black children, and that's. 1:15:01.000 --> 1:15:01.519 A whole thing. 1:15:01.560 --> 1:15:03.360 And that's the whole thing too. You don't get to 1:15:03.400 --> 1:15:05.559 miss out on that either. And I care if you 1:15:05.560 --> 1:15:06.360 think he's passing. 1:15:06.439 --> 1:15:09.160 It's vital that you don't think that your kid is passing, 1:15:09.160 --> 1:15:10.720 and that you don't have to have these conversations, and 1:15:10.720 --> 1:15:12.679 that you keep telling your kids that you know race 1:15:12.720 --> 1:15:15.120 doesn't matter, because what will happen is going to be 1:15:15.160 --> 1:15:18.040 this rude, fucking awakening one day and it's not gonna 1:15:18.080 --> 1:15:22.080 feel nice. It doesn't feel good to realize suddenly in 1:15:22.160 --> 1:15:24.880 a jolting way that somebody sees you differently than someone 1:15:24.880 --> 1:15:26.880 else is solely because of it. 1:15:27.040 --> 1:15:32.160 So yeah, I mean, it's it's they're hard, they're different conversations. 1:15:32.200 --> 1:15:34.760 But I'm excited because Ray's coming on. We can ask 1:15:34.880 --> 1:15:36.080 I have a lot of questions. I want to ask 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:39.040 her too, because she has more, she has more experiences 1:15:39.040 --> 1:15:41.120 than anyone. She has to talk to her kids about 1:15:41.160 --> 1:15:43.200 race constantly because of the work that her and her 1:15:43.240 --> 1:15:44.000 husband do, and. 1:15:44.040 --> 1:15:45.320 She's a diversity educator. 1:15:45.520 --> 1:15:48.280 She's she's both like, she's the person we should. 1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:51.360 So tell all your mommy friends, tell your wife friends, 1:15:51.479 --> 1:15:54.200 go tell your wife friends to join a conversation. They 1:15:54.240 --> 1:15:56.160 need to be in this talk more and more than 1:15:56.160 --> 1:16:00.520 anyone honestly. I mean we do too, obviously. But yeah, 1:16:00.640 --> 1:16:02.680 and that's gonna be on Friday. 1:16:02.760 --> 1:16:08.360 At five pm Pacific and in eight pm East Term time. 1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:10.639 Yeah, so if. 1:16:10.479 --> 1:16:14.680 You want to join that zoom zoom, make sure you 1:16:14.720 --> 1:16:18.240 sign up for our Patreon. We're going to be sending 1:16:18.280 --> 1:16:20.440 out a zoom link to all of our patrons. 1:16:20.479 --> 1:16:21.879 This is a patron only. 1:16:21.720 --> 1:16:24.240 Event, so if you are a patron, you're already invited 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:28.840 it and so we will sign out those zoom liek. 1:16:29.400 --> 1:16:33.439 We'll have more information on our Instagram this week. 1:16:33.800 --> 1:16:36.000 And be love you guys, Thanks for tuning in. 1:16:37.040 --> 1:16:39.240 We'll catch you guys next week. Be safe out there, 1:16:40.280 --> 1:16:41.040 fight the good fight. 1:16:42.400 --> 1:16:43.760 Lad laves night bles how