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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices.

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Speaker 2: I'm Erica and I'm Nyla.

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Speaker 3: Happy Wednesday, Happy hump Day, Happy Hemp Day.

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm okay, it's been quite a week.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: How's your week?

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Speaker 4: Then? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm not feeling great, honestly, like I've had the g yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I was feeling a little better today. I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, I just feel I don't want to say helpless,

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Speaker 3: but I do in some ways. I don't not like obviously,

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Speaker 3: I know, like there's a lot going on and then

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Speaker 3: we're empowering ourselves.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just I don't know. I guess I'm just

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Speaker 1: worried about the future.

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Speaker 2: But I'm definitely worried about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very worried about the future.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty is relentless. Huh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't let up.

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Speaker 3: But you know, with everything going on, with George Floyd's

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Speaker 3: death and so many just so many deaths at this point,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think.

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Speaker 1: Our people are at a they're done. I'm done. I'm tired.

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Speaker 3: I'm tired too, and like you know, as women like

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Speaker 3: what kids, except it's exhausting.

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Speaker 2: It is exhausted.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know my daughter's vib I don't even

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Speaker 1: know how to have these conversations with her right now.

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Speaker 1: I haven't really, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to when me and really we're talking about

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Speaker 3: this this week's episode. I know you guys have probably

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Speaker 3: been listening to a lot of podcasts talking about what's

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Speaker 3: happening and for us, like for me, my but my

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Speaker 3: big concern like what I just can't stop thinking about,

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Speaker 3: and all the people that I've been hitting up are

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Speaker 3: like the black men in my life, like are you okay?

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Speaker 1: You good?

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Speaker 3: I love you, I appreciate you, you know, and like

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Speaker 3: for this week's episode, I really wanted to have on

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Speaker 3: someone who I respect and who I think you know,

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Speaker 3: is well versed in talking about many many topics including

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Speaker 3: you know, what's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to have you on.

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Speaker 4: Van.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Van, we have a van. This is Van Lathan.

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Speaker 3: You guys know Van if you've been listening to our podcast.

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Speaker 3: He was on our podcast last year, we were on

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Speaker 3: his this year.

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Speaker 1: He's a friend of good Mom's. Uh so, welcome.

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Speaker 5: What's up? Why are you always appreciate that?

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Speaker 6: Glad you guys are doing well and appreciate the transparency

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Speaker 6: about the conflicted feelings of of uh, you know, your

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Speaker 6: headspace in terms of what's going on right now.

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Speaker 5: I feel like everyone feels the same way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I FaceTime Van today and I think my

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Speaker 3: phone died in mid of, like mid of my despair.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Van, I'm helpless. He's like, listen, click.

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so much that He's like, you

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Speaker 1: should not feel helpless.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I know, it does feel helpless. It does

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Speaker 4: feel it feels like what the fuck I'm honestly, I'm

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Speaker 4: just tired, Like I'm exhausted. Being a parent is exhausting

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Speaker 4: being a parent to a black child, Like to think

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Speaker 4: that you let them out into the world or even

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Speaker 4: to expose them to understand the concepts of this life

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Speaker 4: that just don't make any fucking sense at all. You know,

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Speaker 4: like that is a very hard lesson to teach. That's

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Speaker 4: a heartbreaking lesson to have.

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Speaker 2: To teach a child too.

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Speaker 4: So and then like, you know, me and Erica are

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Speaker 4: from the valley. I would say the majority of our

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Speaker 4: friends are not.

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Speaker 1: Black, And what no, not yourself. My majority of my

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Speaker 1: friends are not white. I don't really have white friends.

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Speaker 2: You do have white friends.

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Speaker 3: I have like two white friends. I'm not and I

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Speaker 3: love them. I'm just saying, like, speak for yourself.

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Speaker 4: I do have black friends, but here, like in in

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Speaker 4: the valley, in LA, most of my friends are not black.

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Speaker 1: No, I can't.

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Speaker 4: I can't say most of my friends are black and

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Speaker 4: here in this state, in the city, but like across

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Speaker 4: the spread of the nation. Yes, I have a lot

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Speaker 4: of you are not black. And honestly, like I I'm

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Speaker 4: just I don't want to talk about this topic.

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Speaker 5: I'm letting you know the next BT Instagram Live takeover.

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Speaker 1: I need more ship, you say my face. Man, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you don't let me finish.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you're on your own island, bitch.

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Speaker 4: You better not leave me on this island, the San

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Speaker 4: Fernando Valley island.

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Speaker 1: Bitch.

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Speaker 2: You know what it is. First of all, honestly, the

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Speaker 2: point is, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Make the point.

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Speaker 2: I have felt that I don't. I don't really have

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Speaker 4: Of patience to discuss these topics with certain people I

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Speaker 4: don't like at this point, like just right now, in

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Speaker 4: the like these last couple of days, Like, I know

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Speaker 4: wrong shit to me, I can't be delicate with your feelings.

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Speaker 2: This week, like I've found myself ignoring a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Comments just because I don't I can't explain them all.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to talk about the.

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Speaker 4: Small businesses that are getting like looted and how sad

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Speaker 4: that is.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I can't. I don't have enough. I don't

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Speaker 4: So I'm not saying I don't have a lot of

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Speaker 4: black friends. The majority of my friends are black, Erica

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Speaker 4: and Van okay, but here in the valley the people

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Speaker 4: I've grown up closest to, and Erica, I don't know

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Speaker 4: what the fuck she's talking about her twelve black friends.

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Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: Cause I don't have friends the three that I have,

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Speaker 4: Don't know if and I know other people not only

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Speaker 4: with like the people close to me, but like big

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Speaker 4: brands that I'm like some brands that are not saying

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Speaker 4: it's my social you know, who are you know pressing

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Speaker 4: those baby hairs down all week, but I ain't said,

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Speaker 4: you know, love, love all the hip hop culture, love

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Speaker 4: all the black daddies, no words, crickets. It's bothering me.

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Speaker 4: It's bothering me. And I'm also I'm questioning, like is

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Speaker 4: it trendy right now to be like woke and want

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Speaker 4: genuine care? Because I'm tired, because I've seen this shit

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Speaker 4: a lot. It hurts, it's painful, it's hurtful. Like, are

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Speaker 4: are you guys just jumping in right now because it's

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Speaker 1: Off my chest.

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Speaker 5: Now I get it.

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Speaker 6: Like what I'd say, first of all, a couple of things.

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Speaker 6: There's a reason why people are their fuses are so

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Speaker 6: much shorter in terms of things right now. And one

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Speaker 6: reason is that, like, you know, let's say, like we're

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Speaker 6: in the game now, this is the game, Like we're

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Speaker 6: on the biggest stage as a society, as a culture,

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Speaker 6: as a group of people, Like we're this is the game.

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Speaker 6: Like if you spent your entire life training for the Olympics,

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Speaker 6: you can stumble when you got your skates on, you

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Speaker 6: of the thing. It's okay, like you're still working towards

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Speaker 6: whatever you're working towards. But when you get there and

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Speaker 6: everybody's watching and the stakes are so high and everybody

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Speaker 6: you got to be at your best. And I think

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Speaker 6: for better or for worse, that's where we are right now.

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Speaker 6: You want to see the best from people because the

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Speaker 6: stakes are so high.

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Speaker 5: This is the.

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Speaker 6: Olympics of social discourse right now. This is as serious

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Speaker 1: Not maybe maybe not.

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Speaker 6: Hopefully as serious as it's going to get in our lifetime.

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Speaker 6: So anyone who hasn't really put the work in and

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Speaker 6: we are now, you don't want to have to explain

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Speaker 5: Because we got to be active and we need the action.

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Speaker 6: Really, as far as any of the fake activism, I

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Speaker 6: gotta be honest with you. Of course, there's some of

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Speaker 6: that out there. Almost anything that you see from a

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Speaker 6: corporation is fake. A corporation does not tell you how

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Speaker 6: much they love you by posting something on Instagram. A

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Speaker 6: A corporation is a soulless entity that exists in order

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Speaker 6: When they want something, they pay for it. So when

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Speaker 6: a corporation cares about Black lives matter, When a corporation

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Speaker 6: I think I saw a peloton maybe it was the

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Speaker 6: bike company. Half a million bucks. That's what you demand

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Speaker 6: from a corporation. An Instagram posts. They could have an

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Speaker 6: intern do that in thirty seconds. That does not matter.

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Speaker 6: But other than that, like the fake activism, it doesn't

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Speaker 6: it definitely is annoying. I'm definitely with you, on that

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Speaker 6: it's annoying.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more.

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Speaker 3: So like if you want to educate yourself, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of information out there, Like they're so like I

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Speaker 3: I'm on your side. My family is I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: What do I say? How do I say it so

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Speaker 3: more irritated. What is there to explode? It was more

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Speaker 3: so like it's not our jobs. Like I get it, though,

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Speaker 3: I get sometimes we have.

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Speaker 1: To sit back and we have to be like, okay, if.

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Speaker 3: We want asking for help, they're asking for help, they

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Speaker 3: want to learn, Okay, like this is all this is

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Speaker 3: what we all we could ask for, right.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm like you, this just

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Speaker 1: been going on.

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Speaker 3: First of all, like now because black people and all

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think this time it feels more it's

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it, but I'm just like, what is it

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Speaker 5: But listen, for.

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Speaker 6: At the same time, the very fabric of America kind

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Speaker 5: And if all we get is death? Then why should

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Speaker 6: And until society is able to answer that fundamental question,

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Speaker 3: It's true, I agree, can I It's like, how do

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Speaker 2: Burn this shit up? I don't like. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: I went out in downtown and then I went out

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Speaker 2: In Beverly Hills on Melrose.

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Speaker 4: And You're absolutely true, there is nothing. Though they weren't

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Speaker 4: Black lives matter? You want a shot? Sure, I didn't

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Fuck this shit up? And you know what?

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Speaker 4: And I had this conversation with one of my non

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Speaker 2: That could be true, that's a possibility. Probably not. If

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Speaker 4: Brick and mortar, you likely have insurance for every item

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Speaker 4: The people whose smaller businesses got fucked up. This issue

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Speaker 2: But I give a fuck.

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Speaker 4: I don't this this, this this is happening only as

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Speaker 2: But I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't have sympathy for anyone because no one has

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Speaker 2: And every time this shit happens, this is.

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Speaker 4: The first time everybody's all up in arms because it's

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Speaker 4: And I kept hearing repeatedly on the news, this bitch

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Speaker 1: I was out there like.

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Speaker 2: I was screaming.

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Speaker 4: I was howling out the window like a fucking I

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Speaker 4: We're angry. If you don't want to listen, do you

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Speaker 2: And it was it dawned on me that that's true.

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Speaker 4: But also the truth of the matter is, which scares me,

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Speaker 2: Bomb all this shit because they can too, Like.

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Speaker 4: They have the force and the means to kill a

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Speaker 2: So I mean, are there There's obviously been.

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Speaker 4: People planning stuff to like entite, you know, and fake

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Speaker 3: I think historically it's been shown that unless you use force,

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Speaker 1: What they mut that they will has never worked.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we said we should do that too, but

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Speaker 3: I just mean like money talks and fucking up some shit.

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Speaker 3: I inevitably, I hope, I pray, I hope it will.

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 1: How do we change the house we didn't build? You

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Speaker 2: To be burnt down to the ground and started over that.

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Speaker 1: But also that does they have enough money to rebuild

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Speaker 5: George or whomever.

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Speaker 5: What they then.

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Speaker 6: in rebellion. It was birthed by people who were asserting

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Speaker 6: the power and the voice of their own culture after

445
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 6: they were left choiceless. So anyone telling you that what's

446
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 6: happening now is an.

447
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Speaker 1: American the foundation of America.

448
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 6: It's literally the most American thing that could possibly exist, besides,

449
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 6: of course, slavery. So in any of this stuff, this

450
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 6: is nothing new. The question becomes, to your point, what

451
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Speaker 6: it is that we want?

452
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Speaker 5: Well, the first thing that we.

453
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Speaker 6: Have to do is make sure that everybody is listening.

454
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 6: So this is in steps. So now that everyone is listening,

455
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 6: we have to have number one, a comprehensive review in

456
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Speaker 6: policing in this country, whether or not we need to

457
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Speaker 6: defund police Department where the money, Whether whether or not

458
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Speaker 6: we need to separate police unions from political power in

459
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Speaker 6: this country. All of these structural changes are changes that

460
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Speaker 6: we are going to have to demand, and we're going

461
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Speaker 6: to have to pay attention to which group of politicians

462
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Speaker 6: steps up and addresses these concerns.

463
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Speaker 5: Now, it doesn't matter to me, It wouldn't matter right

464
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Speaker 5: now if.

465
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Speaker 6: Trump abolished the police. I'm not prepared to vote for

466
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Speaker 6: him no matter what he does. However, the political power

467
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 6: of not just black Americans, because it's not black people

468
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 6: against white people here, it's everyone against racists. So the

469
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 6: system that we've talked about, to Meela's point, can no

470
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Speaker 6: longer stand.

471
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Speaker 5: It's untenable the way we've been living. It can't go on.

472
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Speaker 5: It's like over now.

473
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Speaker 6: And if people don't really see that movement's being made

474
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Speaker 6: in that direction, this will get worse. It's very important

475
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Speaker 6: that Americans understand there's never been a nation that's lasted forever.

476
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Speaker 5: Never.

477
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Speaker 6: If we were having this conversation in nineteen eighty nine,

478
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Speaker 6: the Soviet Union was the second most powerful nation in

479
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Speaker 6: the entire world. There's never been a nation that's last forever.

480
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Speaker 6: If you want America, you might have to be willing

481
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Speaker 6: to watch it change and help it evolve.

482
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Speaker 5: And we'll see if the country's well ready to do that.

483
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Speaker 3: I think the scariest part, I don't know if we

484
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Speaker 3: have leadership that it's willing to do that.

485
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Speaker 1: I don't.

486
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Speaker 3: I don't have faith in our election process. I don't

487
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Speaker 3: have faith in the idea that Trump is not going

488
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Speaker 3: to be We.

489
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Speaker 2: Can't have faith. That's when a system can't exist.

490
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Speaker 4: We can't have faith in a system that's been falsely

491
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Speaker 4: presented as a democracy and it's clearly not. Just like

492
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Speaker 4: I said, this country is birth and rebellion and then

493
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: brought us as slaves and said make us strong and

494
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Speaker 4: give us free labor for hundreds of years, and the

495
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Speaker 4: second that you know, and then like, oh, but we

496
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 4: gave you freedom, and now you're fine. Now you can

497
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Speaker 4: get educated, Now you're fine. The fact of the matter

498
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 4: is this is this country has been built on the

499
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Speaker 4: blood and sweat and tears of anti democracy. Literally one

500
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Speaker 4: third of a human being being looked at as property

501
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 4: that it's literally been birth on some bullshit.

502
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Speaker 2: And then we're trying to.

503
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Speaker 4: Fix or upgrade a system. But the system needs to disappear.

504
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: It has to start over. The problem is you're right,

505
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: is their leadership is the leadership in the Black community

506
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 4: not strongly, no, because the system has made it so

507
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Speaker 4: that that to have.

508
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Speaker 3: I think there is leadership in the black community. I

509
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Speaker 3: just think we are not united.

510
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Speaker 4: Really well, leadership won't There won't be successful leadership if

511
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Speaker 4: there's not a united front, if there's not community. But

512
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 4: they've done such a grand job at dismantling our community

513
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Speaker 4: and love for one.

514
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Speaker 2: Another and love for ourselves.

515
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Speaker 4: That is really where the like it's hard to be cohesive,

516
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Speaker 4: you know.

517
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Speaker 1: I think it's that also paired with just the time

518
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Speaker 1: that we live in.

519
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Speaker 3: Like one of my biggest fears even when before this's

520
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: happened with even with the pandemic or whatever, was that

521
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 3: like nothing would change because we are a society that kind.

522
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Speaker 2: Of just like sheeople, where we just like it's we

523
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Speaker 2: move on so quickly.

524
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Speaker 1: Once it's done, it's done, it's over with.

525
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Speaker 3: Just like just like all of the deaths that have

526
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Speaker 3: happened in our community, they're so important for two weeks

527
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Speaker 3: and then it's over with.

528
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Speaker 1: Like white people, get it out, get it out, get

529
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Speaker 1: it out.

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Speaker 5: Do you make no mistake about it?

531
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Speaker 6: This right here would be different if there were other

532
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Speaker 6: things to do right And I.

533
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Speaker 3: Think and I think, I think that being at home

534
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 3: really has highlights. Really why because my question too for myself,

535
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Speaker 3: and I was asking myself, why is this different? Why

536
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Speaker 3: is this different? This isn't the this isn't the first

537
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Speaker 3: time we've seen a black man murdered on camera by

538
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Speaker 3: a police officer. You know, this is why is this different?

539
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Speaker 3: And I think to your point, a lot of it

540
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Speaker 3: is is because we're home and we actually I feel

541
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Speaker 3: like I think our minds are changing where we are

542
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Speaker 3: more present people I worry about, like I don't want

543
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Speaker 3: to say the younger generation, like I'm so much older,

544
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: but like I don't want it just feels like everything's

545
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 3: always moving so quickly that I just wonder, like, how

546
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Speaker 3: are we We have to be relentless with this ship.

547
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: We have to and this has like it can't dissipate.

548
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Speaker 4: It's hard to be relentless because it's such heavy shit

549
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 4: that we're we're exposed to and discussing in our community

550
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Speaker 4: all the time, and for other people it's like it

551
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 4: could be a season and then it's passed. We've let

552
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: them get it out and let its pass. But for

553
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: us it is it becomes exhausting. But we have no

554
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: choice but to be relentless, just like that conversation we

555
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: have with somebody about like Sean, like seeing these images,

556
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 4: these images of our people being murdered all the time,

557
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 4: how does that trauma affect us?

558
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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

559
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: It does.

560
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Speaker 4: But do we have any other option but to continuously.

561
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: Like let people know the reality.

562
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: Because the truth of the matter is you even still

563
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 4: have the option to watch the ship all the way.

564
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Speaker 2: To the end or not.

565
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Speaker 4: My other friend was like, yeah, I had to make

566
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Speaker 4: my dad watch the video. I asked him had he

567
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: seen it? He hadn't seen it yet, because they can

568
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 4: people can assume they probably weren't compliant, because that's how

569
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Speaker 4: they think of us, because but.

570
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Speaker 2: We all know that not to be true.

571
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Speaker 4: But you have to, like we have to continuously continuously

572
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: go hard or else, and you know what else scares me.

573
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys know that this was

574
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Speaker 4: the actual like reunion or like it's fell on the

575
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Speaker 4: same date as the Tulsa the Tulsa in Oklahoma where

576
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: there was like black Wall Street, so it was like

577
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Speaker 4: May thirty, first, first and seconds, like the same exact

578
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: time period, which is very interesting because I think there's

579
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: like a planet that's in the house that's closest to

580
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: the Earth that also was at that time. I'm not

581
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: sure what planet. Someone said it at the barbecue, but

582
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: you know, there was a Black Wall Street in Oklahoma

583
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Speaker 4: that we had our own banks, our own postal systems,

584
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Speaker 4: like our own community.

585
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 2: Basically we were thriving, and obviously, for obvious reasons, they

586
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: didn't like that.

587
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 4: They came and killed hundreds of people and bombed the

588
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Speaker 4: city so that it would be hard like that. That

589
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: is really the truth of the matter is is that

590
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Speaker 4: community within like becoming cohesive that way is what is

591
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: scaring them the most. And that's what scares me. The

592
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: more cohesive become, the more we get allies, the more

593
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 4: they're going to plot against us to do whatever they

594
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 4: can to dismantle that. I know it, because we can't

595
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: trust these people. That's who started slavery, that's who supported

596
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Speaker 4: this dialogue.

597
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Speaker 2: So that's why I think it's that.

598
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 4: Important to have a dialogue completely outside of the media,

599
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: completely outside of this structure, because it's failed us every time.

600
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Speaker 6: Yeah, what happened in places like Black Wall Street and

601
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Speaker 6: then Tulsa, and even in Atlanta to a degree with

602
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 6: the race riots that they had there. Black Wall Street

603
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 6: was an extermination of an entire community, very intentional one

604
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 6: done by people who weren't doing.

605
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 5: As well as what they were there was.

606
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Speaker 6: There are incidents like that that happened through violence. And

607
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 6: then there are just other things ways that Americas maintained

608
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 6: a status quo. Obviously, discrimination, redlining, all of that stuff,

609
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 6: hiring practices, all of those things, and some of them

610
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 6: are big, major things, and some of them are little

611
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 6: bitty microaggressions that you can't quite put your finger on,

612
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 6: Like we can't reach into people's hearts and change their

613
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 6: minds about black people.

614
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 5: And I'm not interested in it.

615
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 6: If you don't, if you don't fuck with me, if

616
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 6: you don't think that I'm great because I'm black, that's fine,

617
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 6: that's your business. But what you can't do is deny

618
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 6: me rights that are guaranteed to me, that my ancestors

619
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 6: bled for and earned more than any other group, that

620
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Speaker 6: I won't stand for. And if I don't have a

621
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Speaker 6: government that respects my sovereignty and my ability to assert

622
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 6: those rights, and that government has to either change or

623
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Speaker 6: fault So what I would say to anyone is kind

624
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 6: of like, you know it, Like this is advanced citizen

625
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Speaker 6: right here in America.

626
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 5: You gotta want it bad.

627
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 6: Like to a lot of the problems that happened is

628
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 6: that for the last generation, we fail to be engaged citizens.

629
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Speaker 6: We fail to stand up and be counted, not just

630
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Speaker 6: in terms of when there's something that happens like this

631
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 6: I'm talking about in other things that we should do

632
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 6: in terms of being involved what they've there's been a

633
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 6: narrative that's been handed down to us that there's nothing

634
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 6: we can do to change our circumstances, just fuck it, right,

635
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 6: And I think that we have to hold each other

636
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 6: accountable for what it is that we want in order

637
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 6: to have thrive in communities. And when I say thrive

638
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 6: in communities, I mean black communities that have hospitals, banks

639
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 6: and schools, things like that, real self contained communities where

640
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 6: we can check up on each other. Right, But in

641
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 6: order to do that, we're not just gonna be able

642
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 6: to It's not gonna stop at marching or protesting or

643
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 6: what I call punitive economic damage. Punitive economic damage economic

644
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 6: damage because people are upset. So this is puted if

645
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 6: we're not just going out there and going crazy. It's

646
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 6: not gonna stop there. It's gonna have to continue with

647
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 6: a structural and mental realignment of what we expect to

648
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 6: get from the country and what we really should be

649
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 6: expected to get.

650
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 5: From the country.

651
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 6: Is more than a lot of people understand what I'm saying,

652
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 6: more than a lot of people, because there are very

653
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 6: few groups, no matter what they say, that can say

654
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 6: that they built America, that they gave America an economic

655
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 6: heads start to compete with the rest of the world.

656
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 6: All of that's do to hundreds of years of free labor,

657
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Speaker 6: and then even after that sharecropping, and then even after that,

658
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 6: Jim Crow, our ancestors earn it. And if we too

659
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 6: pussy not pussy, if we're too weak and soft to

660
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 6: go out there and deliver on their blood sacrifice, then

661
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 6: it's on us.

662
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 5: True, and we got to do that. Now, we got

663
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 5: to keep doing that.

664
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Speaker 2: I think that's true.

665
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Speaker 4: And I think that's the part that hurts the most

666
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: because I think I can say I haven't done enough,

667
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: especially for someone who's a mother, who has a child,

668
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: who you know, like because it does feel helpless, It

669
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: does feel like we're to start because like you said,

670
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: there's all on so many levels. There's so many levels

671
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: of this shit. You know, on the very you know,

672
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: like there's people who pretend they're like they're not, but

673
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure and the comfort of their white homes.

674
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 4: There are comments being said and no one's being corrected.

675
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: I'm sure in the corporate office, if you know, fucking

676
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: Tyrone may be more qualified than Joe, and you know,

677
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: Becky might know it, she might not say shit because

678
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: it may jeopardize her job. It takes for every little

679
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: It's such a fucking cancer. It feels so huge to demolish.

680
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: And it's not even just in the United States. It's globally.

681
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 4: They've tried to shit on us. They like rape Africa.

682
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: China is raping Africa.

683
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: As we speak. It's just a global pandemic and it's

684
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: been going on for a long time.

685
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 4: And I think that's why it even heightens, like just

686
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: because coronavirus exists and now this exists and there's just

687
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: like this heightened like thing. But for black people it's

688
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: like I was, I was chirping off of Corona. I was,

689
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: But I'm like, try being black right every day, it's

690
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: you might die. It's Corona every day. So and then

691
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: you add this stress and these levels, you know, and

692
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: it's just an interesting it's very interesting, and I'm over

693
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: it and I'm ready for it to be over. And

694
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: I honestly feel like by any means necessary, you know,

695
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: I don't feel like people understand anything but blood or money.

696
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: How do you, like? How are you doing? Man?

697
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 5: Like?

698
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 3: I cause, like you know, I said, like I checked,

699
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 3: I've been checking in on like the black men in

700
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: my life.

701
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you feel?

702
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 3: How do you how are you? What's your mind? What's

703
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 3: your mental state? What's your mind?

704
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 6: Like you know, it's you know what the crazy thing

705
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 6: is is that I'm well, like this is familiar. The

706
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 6: disease fucked me up just because I was like, yo,

707
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 6: like you know, I just didn't handle it well.

708
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: Like I started watching World War Ze.

709
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah I did that, you know what I'm saying.

710
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm tripping with washing. I was washing.

711
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 6: I washed my hands so much to a point to

712
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 6: where my skin was cracking, you know what I mean.

713
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 6: Like I was checking my temperature fifteen times a day,

714
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 6: the whole nine.

715
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 5: So that didn't this though, this is familiar, This is the.

716
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 6: Reality that I already knew that I lived inside of.

717
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 6: These are contructs that I was already these are walls

718
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 6: that I was familiar with. And also this was something

719
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 6: that there was no way wasn't going to happen. This

720
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 6: is inevitability. So what I think my function is right

721
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 6: now is to make sure that people remember it's okay,

722
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 6: we're going to get through this, but we gotta be

723
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 6: ready to see this through to the end. And that's

724
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 6: not necessarily a violent end. Any store owners out there. Obviously,

725
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 6: my heart goes out to anyone that lost any business,

726
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 6: But what I'm telling you is that the issues are

727
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 6: so much bigger than what you could possibly imagine, and

728
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 6: there's so much deeper and the pain is so much deeper.

729
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 5: There are things that me and some of my friends

730
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 5: are doing in order.

731
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 6: To make sure that people that need help and relief

732
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 6: to rebuild after all of this is over will get

733
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 6: that help. In that relief, private funds, different things, money

734
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 6: that you can come to. I'll come out there and

735
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 6: I'll help you paint over graffiti. I'll do the work

736
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 6: to undo the unrest that just happened. But I'm not

737
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 6: gonna act like what's happening on the streets. America shouldn't

738
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 6: have been able to see coming, and America shouldn't have

739
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 6: addressed generations ago. Okay, So that's the thing with me

740
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 6: as far as I'm concerned, I'm okay, Like I'm trying.

741
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 6: I'm trying to not just protect my energy, I'm trying

742
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 6: to amplify it. I'm trying to stay engaged, trying to

743
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 6: stay in and know, and I'm trying to make sure

744
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 6: that everybody realizes that as long as we lean on

745
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 6: each other, we won't fall.

746
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 5: But we have to lean on each other right now.

747
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I took time out because I realized, I think

748
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: as black people, we go through shit so regularly, especially

749
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: in this in this space where it's just a part

750
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: of life that we you know, we're dealing with trauma

751
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 4: that we're not even aware of. And it dawned in me,

752
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: like I did have like a therapy thing happened for

753
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: like two months.

754
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: Like like a year ago, and I was just like,

755
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: I took the.

756
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: Time to go and use better help, go and sign

757
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 4: up for a therapist, go through the thing like even

758
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: And I liked it because it gives you the option

759
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 4: to be like, do you want a woman, someone of

760
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 4: color or LGBTQ issues matter. Are you religious? Are you spiritual?

761
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: You know, like these these things that like we probably

762
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 4: you can choose and not feel uncomfortable about asking because

763
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: it's on the computer and I'm really just taking the

764
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: opportunity to be like, I may need to talk about

765
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 4: some shit because it's not healthy to be carrying around

766
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: this anger and this stress. And it can and it

767
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: can be directed incorrectly.

768
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: It bleeds into all the aspects of your life. Yeah,

769
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: it starts to bleed into it. I mean all the trauma.

770
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: Like it's so much anxiety. There's so much anxiety. Like

771
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: even thinking about the conversation I'm gonna have to have

772
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: with Luna and like asking her do you want to

773
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: go protest?

774
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: And she's like what is that? And like, you know,

775
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: protests fight for our rights.

776
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 4: She's just looking at me like I'm fucking crazy and shit,

777
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: but it's just it saddens me, you know, and I'm

778
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: gonna I have to talk to someone to have the

779
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 4: conversation to figure this shit out, and like you said,

780
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: it takes leaning in and using the resources and really

781
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: first admitting that this shit hurts and it's not it

782
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 4: should not be a part of life.

783
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: This is not normal. It's not normal. It's not no.

784
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: And I think I think, you know, we we've I've

785
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: always been an advocate for therapy, and I think unfortunately

786
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: in our community, I feel like it doesn't feel like

787
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 3: an option, it doesn't feel like it's affordable, it doesn't

788
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 3: feel like we're supposed to be talking about our business.

789
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: But there's a lot to mean to unpack aside from

790
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: just daily life shit. The trauma of like seeing people

791
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: die daily. Are people die daily? That's for nothing, it's traumatic.

792
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: White people don't see videos of their people dying on

793
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: Instagram and every month.

794
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: And then read comments how people have the privilege you're saying, oh,

795
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: they weren't being they weren't being compliant.

796
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

797
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: That's traumatic for me.

798
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 4: The fact that you responded this way, that there are

799
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 4: people that are seeing what i'm seeing, watching the same

800
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: ship that I'm seeing, and you have the fucking audacity

801
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: and privilege to say some.

802
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: Ship that it is just not there. That is what

803
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: really fucking scares me.

804
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, well remember now everyone take breaks, Yeah, take breaks.

805
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 5: Well, I don't watch It's not like you're not you're not.

806
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: You have to take breaks. I'm not.

807
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I watch.

808
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 6: George Floyd video just because, can you guys hear me? Yeah, yeah,

809
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 6: I said, I watched George Floyd video after a watch,

810
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: just because it just kept it was just pounding me

811
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 6: boom boom.

812
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: I tried to not watch at first. I can't. I can't.

813
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I already

814
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: know I know how it ends. But then I just

815
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: I had I had to.

816
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: I had to.

817
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I had to. I had to see it,

818
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 6: and I wish it never happened. But as far as

819
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 6: the video, I needed to see it. I needed to

820
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 6: see it to understand, to to to really be engaged.

821
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 6: But you know, Sean Sean, what Sean is doing is

822
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 6: is uh and what other people that put the videos

823
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 6: out and stuff like that, what they're doing is valuable

824
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 6: work for a lot of people. I know that there

825
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 6: are a lot of different opinions on on on Sean himself,

826
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 6: but he he, there's valuable work, valuable stuff that people

827
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 6: do as far as putting those videos out. But that's

828
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 6: not for me, Like my brain doesn't really work in

829
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 6: a way that I can ingest all of that. What

830
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 6: I just needed to know is where my guns need

831
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 6: to go in terms of like my my my mental weaponry,

832
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 6: and my physical presence. But I cannot exist in some

833
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 6: of the worlds that I exist in and just watch

834
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 6: black people being destroyed every day.

835
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: I can't do it. I'll freak out.

836
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 6: Y'all saw I fucking freaked out on the people last year,

837
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 6: so like like I'll like like.

838
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 5: I'll freak out. I can't, Like I can't do it.

839
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 6: It's like it's not mentally, I don't have the restraint

840
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 6: and I don't have the Uh really, my my bowl

841
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 6: isn't that big. I gotta empty stuff out of my

842
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 6: head sometimes. But look, all of this shit should like

843
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 6: you guys are mothers, and you guys are very proud,

844
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 6: and you guys are so it's just fun to watch

845
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 6: people be loving parents. Like it's always fun to watch

846
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 6: people love it because at first you get annoyed when

847
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 6: you don't have kids.

848
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: You're like, hey, on the reil, stop it with the

849
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 5: kiddie bullshit.

850
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 6: Like it's like it's like whatever, But after a while,

851
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 6: just you do after a while, seeing someone pour so

852
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 6: much of their self and their existence into somebody else's

853
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 6: happiness and somebody else's growth and somebody else's evolution and protection.

854
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: You can't help but be enamored with it.

855
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 6: You can't help but be drawn to people who care

856
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 6: that much about somebody else. And that's why it's important

857
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 6: for people to really do the work to make a

858
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 6: better world, because as crazy as it sounds, we've all failed.

859
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 6: If in twenty years it's still hashtags floating around like this,

860
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 6: this could either be a time in America that we

861
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 6: looked back on, or this could be it and it's

862
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 6: up to us.

863
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: And I you know, people always say, you know when

864
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: your parent, like you want to leave your kid to

865
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: a better world, or you worry about the world that

866
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: you're leaving them too, And that has that I feel like,

867
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: has been the source of so much anxiety for me,

868
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: Like I'm really scared about that. It's not like oh,

869
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: girls are wearing like thongs on the street, or like

870
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: what kind of world am I leaving her too? Like

871
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: people are torking on the camera. It's more like I'm like,

872
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: is there gonna be a world?

873
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 4: Like?

874
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: Am I cool leaving you here?

875
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: You might have to come.

876
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: I feel guilty you might have to come, And yeah,

877
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: do I need any more kids, Like I want to

878
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: see how this plays out first, Like it's just it's

879
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 3: a scary, scary world, and like yeah, like my anxiety

880
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: has been bigger more than ever, which is why I

881
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: take mushrooms now.

882
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, mushrooms have help. You should try them. I

883
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 4: try them then, for really you.

884
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 6: Should telling me about that. How do you do the mushrooms?

885
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 6: Like what do you I've never I've never taken that before,

886
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 6: Like what do.

887
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: You do well them? You can do differently.

888
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 4: You could just crush them up a little and put

889
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: them in like some yogurt with granola. That's the best

890
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: way because I taste not good. Or you can get

891
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 4: them in chocolate form, or you can get them in

892
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 4: little capsules. But however way you get them.

893
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

894
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: I've just had to kind of like depart from my reality,

895
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 3: from my reality here, and it's like not that I'm

896
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: like when I take them.

897
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm somewhere else. That's not what it is.

898
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: It's or so like I don't know I'm able to

899
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: separate them from my anxiety and still be like Okay, this,

900
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: I'm present, this is what's happening. This is not what's happening.

901
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: This is not important. My anxiety is not me and

902
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: like that, but that idea that leaving my child into

903
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: this world of like not knowing, like are you gonna

904
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 3: It's like.

905
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I don't even know.

906
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 4: We have to raise soldiers, but then we have to

907
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: be your soldier in or to raise a soldier, And

908
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 4: that's where we need to start, because nothing will change,

909
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 4: nothing will change unless we start, and then they won't

910
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 4: even understand what that means until we start, you know.

911
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 7: There, we just have to do better.

912
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 6: I mean no, I mean no, I mean we gotta

913
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 6: do us. They gotta do better. We just gotta do us.

914
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 6: And when I say do us, I mean listen, man,

915
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 6: I know that there's a lot of penny bickering that

916
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 6: goes on between black Americans sometimes, and a lot of

917
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 6: it has to do with sort of how things have been.

918
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 5: You know, there's not a lot of slots. We fight

919
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 5: for the.

920
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 6: Same slots, you know what I mean, if it's you

921
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 6: walk into a room like I never forget when I

922
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 6: was at TMZ, there was actually a point where you know,

923
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 6: I had made my sort of identity as the black

924
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 6: guy on the show.

925
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 5: And so because I was the black guy on the show.

926
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 5: I never forget.

927
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 6: This is one of the moments that I really caught

928
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 6: myself because I had made like my first year two

929
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 6: there being a big deal on a TV show or whatever.

930
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 6: I have made my identity as a black guy show.

931
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 6: So whenever another black dude walked into TMZ, I'll be like,

932
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 6: oh shit, Yo, is this nigga better looking? Is he

933
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 6: gonna be smarter? Is he gonna be like?

934
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 5: I don't know.

935
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: There's not enough room for both.

936
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's not enough room. And do you know the

937
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 5: way I dealt with that.

938
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 6: I dealt with that by fiercely combating that and trying

939
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 6: to prop up as much as I could anybody black

940
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 6: that walked into that office because I could not allow myself.

941
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 6: I was around thirty one or thirty two, then thirty two,

942
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 6: around forty now, I couldn't allow myself to become the

943
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 6: nigga that tries to dominate the space wherever he is

944
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 6: so that no other.

945
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 5: Black people can get in. I had to exercise that

946
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 5: out of.

947
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 6: Me, because that feeling happens because you don't know if

948
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 6: somebody's gonna come in and kick you to the bet

949
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 6: because they're not enough voices, they're not enough people.

950
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 5: But we have to get rid of some of that.

951
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 6: As far as us, what we do together and how

952
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 6: we view each other together, as far as some of

953
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 6: this other structural stuff, it's on them.

954
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 5: It's on them.

955
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 6: It's on the white American power structure to decide whether

956
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 6: or not they want a country or not, whether or

957
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 6: not they want workers, whether or not they want businesses,

958
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 6: whether they want a copaestic flow and a sharing of

959
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 6: American wealth if they don't want that, I.

960
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: Do agree with you, But I also think, and I

961
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: know you say, like we have our own mental like

962
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: things like like what you what you shared with your

963
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: you know your dynamic when you see him and saw

964
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: another black man walk into you know, your your workplace.

965
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: I feel like.

966
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: Black people though, like we kind of like we've been

967
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: so taught that we need white things, Like we don't

968
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,479
Speaker 3: buy black generally. We don't even when we're told this

969
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: is what can help uplift us, even when we see

970
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: white people killing us, we don't do it. It's like

971
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: a habit. And I don't know how you unbreak that habit.

972
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you chip away at it, but

973
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: it's like, are our Nigga's gonna stop buying Christian Dior

974
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 3: and this and that to support some other luxury black

975
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: brands to help uplift us and empower us.

976
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. So the white people.

977
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: Are always gonna get our money, I mean not always,

978
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 3: I hope not, but like I don't I don't know

979
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: how that changes.

980
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: They have endless money.

981
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 4: We have to educate ourselves to recognize how that they're

982
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 4: economics like there they have to like that's where.

983
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: The power lies.

984
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 4: And if we make excuses to not buy from one another,

985
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 4: oh you know, you know so and So's customer service

986
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 4: is poor, this is slow, this is the technology is low.

987
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna have to go with this major brand,

988
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 4: this major brand, this major brand. It does it takes

989
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: for us to educate, you know, to be educated in

990
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: those places. And and I honestly think this all times

991
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 4: for it to be it could work.

992
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: It should work.

993
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 4: We are excelling at such like black women specifically business owners,

994
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: you know, like just black in corporate America, and the

995
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 4: and the rate at which we graduate from college. We

996
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: are blooming even despite clear traps to do otherwise. You know,

997
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: So I think now's the time if anybody. I think

998
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: it's I think you're right. There has to be we

999
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 4: at some point we have to make decisions because economically

1000
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 4: is where the shit matters.

1001
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 2: Those they care about their pockets, that's all. They give

1002
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: a fuck about pockets.

1003
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: I mean, because I would love like I mean and

1004
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 3: to your point, like we are blooming in spite of

1005
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So just imagine if there

1006
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: was none of that, the like.

1007
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 4: Well, that's what's scary for them, And that's what that's

1008
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: what scary for me, is that as they see as blooming,

1009
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: best believe they are working up an antidote, like they

1010
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: are trying to fight against that blooming.

1011
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: Because it's power.

1012
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: It's powerful, my friend.

1013
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: Okay, this is another thing, the black friends that are

1014
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: saying dumb shit. I think that might be even worse.

1015
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: That is really the worst of all. I had a

1016
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 4: friend post some shit. I have not called her since

1017
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: I don't know where to begin. I am appalled and

1018
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 4: shocked and annoyed.

1019
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: What is she saying?

1020
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: I don't something to the effects of, like, if we

1021
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 4: want other races to respect us, we have to like

1022
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 4: respect each other.

1023
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.

1024
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 4: I hate the conversation about like black on black crime

1025
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 4: in amongst the conversation on like police brutality, and like

1026
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: that shit irritates me. That shit irritates me, And like

1027
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 4: even though that's true, they have there are limited places

1028
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 4: and spaces for you know, there's always been like five

1029
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 4: black actors as long as we've grown up. Maybe there's

1030
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: ten now been in the same type of movies.

1031
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: And now we're.

1032
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 4: Seeing us in different spaces in different ways, and we're

1033
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 4: weird and we could be there's it's just now giving

1034
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 4: letting us have this these spaces. But I just I

1035
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 4: feel like, really though black people genetically are community loving people. Hey, sister,

1036
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: what's up you want? You know, like if I go

1037
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 4: to the hood, I'm happy to walk into this. You know,

1038
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: even if someone's like you little skinny ass, you want

1039
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: some get her some call of greens?

1040
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: Yes please.

1041
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: You know, Jamilla can bring home a white boy like

1042
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 4: you know you brought him that that white boy last week.

1043
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: Still he's getting a plate.

1044
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: No one's disowning niggas for bringing home white people like

1045
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 4: we are despite everything we've been through, I guarant I

1046
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 4: I just feel like we got a lot of love

1047
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 4: to give regardless, and that's crazy that we can even

1048
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 4: exist and thrive and love and feel happy despite but

1049
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: like that is really our superpower and like you can't

1050
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 4: take that away from us, and you can per you

1051
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 4: can try, but like that, I don't. I don't believe

1052
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: in that. I refuse to believe in that.

1053
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, we we come from a place

1054
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 6: originally where there's more land than our people, and where

1055
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 6: those people understood how their relationship with the land uh

1056
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 6: was important to their existence, and therefore how their relationship

1057
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 6: with each other was important to their existence.

1058
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

1059
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 6: So you come from a celebratory culture, a culture that

1060
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 6: was advanced in so many different ways in terms of

1061
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 6: science and art, mathematics, but a culture that celebrated life.

1062
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 5: And so even throughout.

1063
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 6: Everything that happened to us when we got here in

1064
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 6: some wilderness where we didn't understand it, We don't know

1065
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 6: nothing about the types of lakes and rivers they got,

1066
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 6: the types of trees, they got, the types of animals

1067
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 6: they got.

1068
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 5: We have no clue. We don't know where we are.

1069
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:57,959
Speaker 2: Our diet as.

1070
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 6: Soon as we got settled, diet, same thing, as soon

1071
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 6: as we got settled.

1072
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 5: The first thing that we started.

1073
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 6: To do was try to find a way to give

1074
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 6: thanks for being who we are.

1075
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 5: It's one of the things that we do.

1076
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 6: When somebody looks at you and they say that, they're saying,

1077
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 6: thank you for being black, thank you for your beauty,

1078
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 6: thank you for what everything that you're doing. They appreciate

1079
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 6: that that has to be translated into the actual foremotion

1080
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 6: that we need to change some of those things. Like

1081
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 6: you were talking earlier about the designer stuff and all

1082
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 6: of that stuff, all of that's American. All of that

1083
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 6: worship of excess and all of that worship of luxury brands.

1084
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 5: And all of that prestige.

1085
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 6: That's us trying to in some way show people that

1086
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 6: us similarly to.

1087
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 5: The American dream. Yeah, that's all American.

1088
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 6: Like the cultures that we came from in Africa were

1089
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 6: much more about sharing. Obviously you had some ridiculously rich people,

1090
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 6: but there are much more about sharing. They were much

1091
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 6: more about each one, teach one, and the village itself

1092
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 6: way more. All of this this peak capitalism, this vicious

1093
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 6: gangster version of it, that's all stuff we learned here,

1094
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 6: all of it. And so the reality is that what

1095
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 6: we have to do as a coaches figure out whether

1096
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 6: or not that works for us, or whether or not

1097
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 6: it doesn't. I would say, personally, the way that we're

1098
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 6: gonna build the strongest Black community, it's not by turning

1099
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 6: our backs on capitalism. It's by engaging in capitalism in

1100
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 6: a different way. We just need some solidarity, and I

1101
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 6: think that is coming, not just between black people. By

1102
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 6: the way, when I'm out of these protests, I've seen

1103
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 6: a vast coalition of diversity. The only thing I'll say is,

1104
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 6: you know, I always worried about the after college syndrome

1105
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 6: because the white kids be the after college syndrome. The

1106
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 6: white kids be down with you all throughout college, and

1107
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 6: they're right when it's time to go out there and

1108
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 6: get a job, they're like, Okay, niggas, I gotta I

1109
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 6: gotta go work at JP Morgan Chase.

1110
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 2: My dad has a friend over.

1111
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: There, exactly.

1112
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 5: So I always worry about that.

1113
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe that follows that following.

1114
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: That's why I'm looking at my wife friends like Okay, okay, bitch,

1115
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 3: I'll see you. I'm glad you're going go do that,

1116
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 3: write that fight. But how let's see how long you're

1117
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 3: gonna fight this fight? When shit gets real and we

1118
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 3: really need you and we need to we need to

1119
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: call Grandpa and we need to call you know, you

1120
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 3: know your granddaddy that has this and that and then

1121
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: you know, like access usual. I want you to really

1122
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 3: use your privilege. Like that's the thing, Like you don't

1123
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: don't exercise your privilege just by going to a riot,

1124
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: texting me asking me if I'm okay, take me to

1125
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 3: Instagram after me like I need anything, you know, all

1126
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 3: that's great. Use your privilege, Use your privilege. That's what

1127
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 3: I want to see. That's really what I want to see.

1128
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: That's really what matters to me when I'm when I'm

1129
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 3: when I'm thinking about you know, the people that I know,

1130
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: my two white friends, man, I'm just kidding, my only

1131
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: two friends. No, just and just and just even celebrities

1132
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: and people that have like platforms that are so outraged

1133
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 3: right now, like y'all connected to the to the system,

1134
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 3: to the people that built the house.

1135
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know what's up. That's how I feel

1136
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: about it. Like that's why I'm just like people tell you.

1137
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 2: That that's my biggest issue with like all lives matter,

1138
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: we're all on human race.

1139
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: When I see pull up.

1140
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 3: When I see people put the posting pull up and

1141
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 3: Instagram and shit, and I've seen it multiple times. I

1142
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: don't mean just pull up to the fucking protests. I

1143
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 3: just want to be clear about that because I.

1144
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: Feel like that's what that's that's what I'm concerned about.

1145
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 3: Like people, these white people or whatever, non black people

1146
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 3: show up to the protests, feel like they did their

1147
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: due diligence.

1148
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: They did what they were supposed to do, and that's it.

1149
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: And then outside of that, now, you know, I support you.

1150
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: You know there's gonna be a lot of that.

1151
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 4: I mean, it's convenient, ship if you got your blinders on.

1152
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 4: If I'm living my happy white life, ship, fuck if

1153
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be over here stressing myself out, you know,

1154
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 4: I'm over here with Daddy's Daddy's money chilling. I mean,

1155
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 4: it's just it's it's hard being black in America. It's

1156
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 4: even hard being black in America in the valley.

1157
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 6: But remember though, like it's gonna be up to us

1158
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 6: to do the work for ourselves. Anything else is just

1159
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 6: a bonus. So if you have somebody else that like, uh,

1160
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 6: you know, it's gonna it's gonna come with you, help

1161
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 6: you and support you.

1162
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 5: That's great, but like you know what you're gonna have

1163
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 5: to do.

1164
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 6: It's like people that get a trainer and think that

1165
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 6: the trainer is gonna lose weight for them. The trainer

1166
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 6: is someone that helped guide you. It's it's a it's

1167
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 6: a it's a it's basically an accessory.

1168
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 5: In this it's still gonna be your effort.

1169
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,959
Speaker 6: Your mobilization and a change in your mindset is gonna

1170
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 6: get you where you're trying to go. It's good to

1171
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 6: have allies. It's important to have allies. I would even

1172
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 6: say it's necessary to have allies. But you gotta be

1173
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 6: willing to go it alone too, you know what I'm saying.

1174
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Anyway, all I have to say is vote

1175
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: in November.

1176
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: I know, like you know.

1177
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 3: That idea that that's really blended in our community that

1178
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: your vote doesn't matter that you know, like you said Van, like, oh,

1179
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: it just it's just nothing matters. You just kind of

1180
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 3: like go to the wind.

1181
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: No, this is how it's always and look it's not.

1182
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: We don't have great options. Let's be real.

1183
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: We don't have great options, but we have an option, okay,

1184
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 3: and that's when we have to take because it's I

1185
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: really like it doesn't just start there at the top.

1186
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: It does, but like it trickles down, but like that

1187
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: needs that. I don't feel like much progress can be

1188
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: made as long as Donald Trump as our president.

1189
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: Oh god, he's the worst shit ever. Did you see

1190
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: him posing with the Bible? Oh my god, it's so

1191
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 4: First of all, he tear gassed peaceful protesters so he

1192
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: can get to the church that was burned to take

1193
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 4: several photographs in front of it with.

1194
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: The Bible, and he was.

1195
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: Like, is this today?

1196
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: It was so.

1197
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't really watch that.

1198
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 4: He used it as like a prop in a set

1199
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: to be like, and then he used force to move

1200
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: the people to take the pictures.

1201
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: Well, he's a white supremacist, that's it. Like he's white supremist,

1202
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: that's it.

1203
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: He's just very dumb.

1204
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: He's that. But he's also a white supremist, for sure.

1205
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 5: He's dumb. I'm surprised Jesus didn't say, Okay, that's enough.

1206
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 5: I got to get back to earth.

1207
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 6: In the moment, In the moment that Donald Trump was

1208
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 6: holding up it was such.

1209
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: A I have to see this photo.

1210
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 5: God, it's crazy.

1211
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 6: But you know what, more than Donald Trump is just whack. Man,

1212
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 6: that picture's wack.

1213
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: He's embarrassing. It's such an embarrassment.

1214
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, but look man, we're gonna stay courage.

1215
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 5: Were out here on the streets about to get out

1216
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 5: here in a second.

1217
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much.

1218
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: Appreciate you as happy to have you. Was that.

1219
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 3: I can't stand either one of you, honestly, No, but

1220
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 3: I'll call you later.

1221
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 5: Hit me up. Not ladies, stay safe, staying courage and say.

1222
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: You guys are the fan of Van Lathan at Van

1223
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Lathan duh, bye bye bye.

1224
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: Well that was Van. That was great.

1225
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he always adds you know, he's just he's smart,

1226
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 3: a lot.

1227
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: Of perspective to the conversation. And I appreciate his perspective.

1228
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: And I don't know, like I I feel like I

1229
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: don't sound very optimistic on this episode. I don't mean

1230
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 3: to sound that way. I just feel like today I

1231
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 3: just feel conflicted about where we are in this whole process.

1232
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: I definitely feel conflicted.

1233
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 4: I definitely I didn't even want to speak too soon.

1234
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just so tired of talking about this.

1235
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 4: It makes me exhausted, Like it really makes me exhausted,

1236
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: and it makes me sad, and it makes me feel

1237
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 4: like I'm never doing enough, and.

1238
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: So I guess we have to talk about it. We

1239
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: have to do it. It's necessary.

1240
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: But I feel your hopelessness, but I just don't. We

1241
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 4: can't feel hopeless because that.

1242
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: Gets I think.

1243
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 3: It's just today I don't really feel like I necessarily

1244
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: feel overall like hopeless. I'm you know, I'm generally like

1245
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: I can see the bright side on and things, and

1246
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 3: I know that everything.

1247
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: I truly do believe that.

1248
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes not sometimes historically you have to burn shit down

1249
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: to the ground. And that doesn't necessarily mean like actually,

1250
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 3: but sometimes it really fucking means that way, Like shit

1251
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 3: has got to just you need us to do over

1252
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: and you can't erase slavery and you can't delete what's

1253
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 3: been what's happened, but like there has to be a change.

1254
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: We can't. We're we're like this.

1255
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 4: Like, well, you made a really good point over the weekend.

1256
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, you weren't talking to me.

1257
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's just we were having a general conversation,

1258
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 4: which even it's interesting like some even I'm even such

1259
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: in a sensitive place where like when we had that conversation,

1260
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 4: like obviously we were amongst.

1261
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: Friends but like I just wasn't.

1262
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 4: I was just like, please don't want say anything too stupid,

1263
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 4: and I know I can't go into conversations that way,

1264
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 4: but I'm just like, please don't say anything that I'm

1265
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 4: gonna have to curse somebody out. And that's not just

1266
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 4: like that's just for everybody, because I've like I've had

1267
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 4: even friends that are black say some stuff and I'm like, Okay,

1268
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to step you know.

1269
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: What, though for me, I'm like, please say something so

1270
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 3: i can curse your ass out, because then I'll know

1271
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 3: you don't you don't really you don't really fuck with me.

1272
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: Right, That's or it's like I'm just like cringing.

1273
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 3: Hoping, or like if I love you because the people

1274
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 3: everyone that I loved was there, so I would I

1275
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 3: would have, like, you know how, Brand said, it's a

1276
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 3: case by case situation, and I.

1277
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: Agree with that.

1278
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 3: I'm not like white people, but I feel like if

1279
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 3: like one of my friends said some dumb shit and

1280
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: I just felt like, damn, you really just need to

1281
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: educate yourself. I give them an opportunity to listen, to

1282
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 3: listen and learn and let's talk about it. But there's

1283
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 3: all but then at the end of it, at the

1284
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: end of it all though, like there's are certain things

1285
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: that like if we're not in line, you gotta go,

1286
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: you gotta go. Like that's it, You're right.

1287
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 4: But you said, but you said something about America, something

1288
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 4: about Americans and like rebellion and that like, actually, America

1289
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 4: is amongst the most docile of the countries. We don't like,

1290
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 4: there's so much fuckery happening in the White House, within government,

1291
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 4: with legislation, with fucking lobbyists and insurance companies and bullshit,

1292
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 4: so much in moral and ethical ship that is obvious

1293
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 4: and blatant.

1294
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: And in media and and and.

1295
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: It's we are just cool with it, you know everything.

1296
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 4: Everybody's cool with it. And then when we turn up,

1297
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 4: Oh no, we're we're being animals, we're being louders, we're

1298
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 4: being like, no, Actually, in other countries, the government, people

1299
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 4: overthrow it, overthrow it, they overthrow.

1300
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 3: The bitch, and then they kill the president sometimes or

1301
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 3: they exile his ass or he goes to jail. It's

1302
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: like we put we put these laws in place that

1303
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 3: the president can't even go.

1304
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 4: To jail, so the laws don't exist.

1305
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 2: Slavery hasn't ended it's just been substituted people with with

1306
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: fucking mass incarceration. It still exists.

1307
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 4: It's absolutely They put some special words over and try

1308
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 4: to fucking seed it in, but bitch, it exists.

1309
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: So you don't give a fuck. The ship has to go.

1310
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 3: It has to And honestly, like I was listening to

1311
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 3: Wheezy's new podcast, and you guys should check out Wheezy's

1312
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: new podcast, What's it called Again? For facts sake? For

1313
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: fact's sake, And she was talking about how her mom,

1314
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 3: her mom's seventy and she's like her mom, my mom

1315
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 3: had to drink, was from a separate you know, I

1316
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 3: had to go to separate bathrooms.

1317
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: Had seventy.

1318
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1319
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: Yo, I'm just saying to what I'm trying to say

1320
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 3: is the ship it was not that long ago. It's

1321
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 3: crazy because people think that it's like another lifetime ago

1322
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 3: or a century ago.

1323
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: It's not was not one hundred years ago.

1324
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 4: There's a meme and it shows like a part like

1325
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 4: some of the protests, like during Martin Luther King and

1326
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 4: they put under they're in color and in black and white,

1327
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 4: the same photos, and they said, can you believe they

1328
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 4: put this shit in history books?

1329
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: In black and white to make it seem as though.

1330
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 4: It was farther, further away, because because the mind has

1331
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 4: this precise perception.

1332
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 3: Of things of when when black went to color, And

1333
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 3: it's just like, I just feel those people.

1334
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: Are still alive.

1335
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 3: They're just they're they're police officers, they're politicians, they're the ones,

1336
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 3: they're they're they're the president of the insurance company, they're

1337
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like they are still among us.

1338
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: Racism has never died. And like I keep I kept

1339
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: saying this meme go around.

1340
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: That said, like.

1341
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 3: Racists, like, racism didn't die, it's just now it's being

1342
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 3: televised or something, or now.

1343
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: It's being filmed, and it's so true.

1344
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: It's like it's never it's never been dead.

1345
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 4: But that's why I don't want to hear that lives matter. Shit,

1346
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear that. Fucking I don't want

1347
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 4: to hear it. That doesn't like race does matter, race

1348
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 4: does exist, or else we wouldn't be having this conversation.

1349
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 4: It's very fucking it's historically mattered. And for you to

1350
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 4: fucking under suggest that it doesn't exist because that benefits

1351
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 4: your comfortability, fuck.

1352
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: You, absolutely, I agree.

1353
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: Fuck power.

1354
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 4: Uh anyway, Wow, But I will say the first night

1355
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 4: I went downtown, it was a little chaotic. Maybe everybody

1356
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 4: didn't have the same I didn't feel the same amount

1357
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 4: of that much as community as I did when I

1358
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 4: went the second night, when I went.

1359
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: Up up but to have the looting go for you,

1360
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 2: I wasn't looting, but we were on the front lines,

1361
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: were on the sidelines of.

1362
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 4: The front lines, and we were first of all, I

1363
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: felt like it was almost intentional. Literally, we were coming

1364
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 4: back from the beach, and it's they're showing that in

1365
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 4: the intersections with like from the helicopter, but putting the

1366
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 4: intersections in like white writing to so exactly where the

1367
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 4: actions is. Then they're like the governor gets on, we

1368
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 4: don't have enough police. Please, it says on the screen,

1369
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 4: small crimes won't be like there's literally it's like small

1370
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: crimes won't be in fractured like everyone go yeah, Literally,

1371
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 4: it seemed intentional. I was like, is this a fucking joke,

1372
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 4: because literally the mayor gets on, it's like, we've called

1373
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 4: out forty cops from vntour County forty. You got forty

1374
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 4: to come from into our fucking county He's like, everyone

1375
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 4: just stay inside the curfew. Who's like last God bless

1376
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 4: Los Angeles.

1377
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: Oh shit.

1378
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 2: So literally, I was like, we go straight to the action.

1379
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 4: And then when I get out there and I see

1380
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 4: it's mostly kids, girl as teenagers.

1381
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 2: It's like everybody's dressed in black. There's signs, they're spray painting,

1382
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: saying you know, fuck fuck, like fuck pig cops.

1383
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 4: It was just, you know, and kids were just literally

1384
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 4: stealing furniture from furniture stores, pulling them in the middle

1385
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 4: of the street, posting up honking. There's kids going to the

1386
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 4: liquor store. Running in the liquor store. You see like

1387
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 4: five car cop cars, sirens rush by, they go by,

1388
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 4: and then nobody stops.

1389
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: They like all spurs from the liquor store and they

1390
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: just run back in like little roaches. It was hilarious.

1391
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 2: It was great. And I'm like, give me one of

1392
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: else bottles. Somebody hand me a bottle of bourbon.

1393
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 4: You know, it's just we got them jumped out the

1394
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 4: car at one point talking asking the kids, hey, where

1395
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 4: are you guys. Finding a lot of them from Compton,

1396
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 4: from East you know, just different parts of LA.

1397
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: But all people just saying like.

1398
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 4: Black Lives Matter, and like it was just it seemed

1399
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 4: not I mean, it just it wasn't violent.

1400
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 2: It didn't seem violent.

1401
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 4: Besides obviously the vandalism that was happening, it seemed like

1402
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 4: kids trying to go and get theirs. Honestly, you know,

1403
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 4: we like post them in front of the mouth.

1404
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, besides the fact that we're in

1405
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 3: a pandemic where they're sending people twelve hundred dollars for

1406
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 3: for money, this would be like I just feel like,

1407
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 3: of course the ships, the people are gonna lose shit.

1408
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: People need ship right now more than ever.

1409
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: Two.

1410
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 2: We're in a bad place.

1411
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: People need ship right now. Oh you, oh so you're not?

1412
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: Oh you, oh so you're not.

1413
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: So You're gonna give me hundred dollars for unemployment and

1414
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 3: a six hundred dollars check and I'm just to be

1415
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: able to catch up and pay six months left.

1416
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna go to the I'm gonna go to

1417
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: the liquor store of the f store.

1418
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go cops and ship and I'm gonna resell it.

1419
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 7: It's not Gucci for sure.

1420
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I head less if I didn't, if

1421
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 4: I didn't feel like maybe someone on TV like that's Jamilla. I.

1422
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,879
Speaker 7: I was fully encouraging me get everything.

1423
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: She called me and I was like.

1424
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 3: You better really think about what you want, bitch.

1425
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: What do you need? What do we need right now?

1426
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 2: Okay?

1427
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 7: So we did. We got off the phone. She really

1428
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 7: hyped me up.

1429
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 4: Someone had handed me a hard drive from like they

1430
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 4: just handed it to me from outside of the Star.

1431
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 7: I was like, yes, I didn't do anything, but I'm benefitting.

1432
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 7: Then I got on the phone the Airic.

1433
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 4: I'm all Drew said I had a shot te quila

1434
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 4: from some some friends that we met on the corners, Like,

1435
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 4: oh yeah, man, I just got this cool.

1436
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 7: I was like, he just popped it open, so it.

1437
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 4: Was no corona.

1438
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, I know. I was like sure.

1439
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 7: I was like uh huh uh huh.

1440
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: He gave us a shot.

1441
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 4: So we Erica gets on the line. Really I called

1442
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 4: one friend. She's like, get out of there, go home.

1443
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 4: I got on the phone the Airic and she's like,

1444
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 4: think about everything we need.

1445
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 6: Well.

1446
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god.

1447
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: I was like a murderer.

1448
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,440
Speaker 3: I was like, what do we need? We need electronics

1449
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 3: and we need what else? Like a sound equipment and

1450
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 3: my fake. As I was in the streets, I was like, yeah,

1451
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 3: let me think about it.

1452
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: Where can we go next?

1453
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 4: Completely as if I was just about to be about

1454
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 4: that life, popping down some shit so we would drive

1455
01:09:58,680 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 4: his trashity lingerie.

1456
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: I'm like.

1457
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 4: When you have a photo shoot, but people had just

1458
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 4: started like popping this shit open, and I'm like, oh,

1459
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 4: we go trashy lunderin and I go inside, I pick

1460
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 4: up the mannequin and I'm.

1461
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 7: Like, I put it down.

1462
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: I'm like gotta get out of here.

1463
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 7: I'm not going to chail for laundry, but I'm not

1464
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 7: gonna do it.

1465
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: Just walk out. I'm just not good.

1466
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 2: Like literally, my fangs had come out, just like I've.

1467
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 4: Been riding around in the street like screaming out in

1468
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 4: the window, and I was just like following all the

1469
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 4: kids and then my fangs came out, but I'd likely

1470
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 4: I put it down. I gained adult control and I

1471
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 4: left that joint without anything. So no, I wasn't looting.

1472
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 3: I was.

1473
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: I was out there.

1474
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 4: I'm hanging with my with adventure Bay, who's super about

1475
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 4: responsible fun, and he we were like with like tally

1476
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 4: get along with some kids that we didn't know.

1477
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 7: I'm sure they're like, why are these people following us?

1478
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 4: And at one point one of the kids shouted like,

1479
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 4: I don't know how you to breaking some glass glass in.

1480
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: His hand and he's like I can see my bone.

1481
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, I can't look.

1482
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 7: He's so my adventure Bay was like do you need

1483
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 7: first aid?

1484
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: Do you have first aid?

1485
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 4: In my head like, nigga, you know they don't have

1486
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 4: no first aid, only you have first date.

1487
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 7: Hold on, pull over to the health. These kids that

1488
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 7: we've been following that we don't know, but we think

1489
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 7: we're a part of their.

1490
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: Posse because we're just like, yeah, yeah. He goes in the.

1491
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 4: Back of the tront gets the first daid out, like

1492
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 4: giving him gaze and helping him, asking like where do.

1493
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 7: You guys turn.

1494
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 3: Drive.

1495
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: Honestly, it was pretty exciting.

1496
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: I felt like I was. I mean, it sounds like

1497
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: good night to remember it was.

1498
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 2: I felt it was a part of history.

1499
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: I was.

1500
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: I just it was good to be there.

1501
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 7: I had the opportunity to not be home on my.

1502
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 4: Couch listening to that bitch on ABC talk about the

1503
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 4: people doing the ship saying how violent it was and

1504
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 4: how this it was and how, And when I was there,

1505
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 4: I realized it was just really about rebellion and about

1506
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 4: the anger and the anguish and the sadness and that

1507
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,879
Speaker 4: together they were just saying, this is where a community

1508
01:11:58,880 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 4: and whatever.

1509
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't like it wasn't it wasn't. I it's the

1510
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 3: thing that the news portrays. It's like this all out

1511
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 3: of salt on police office. And then and then they're

1512
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 3: not here to police officers.

1513
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 4: And then I noticed they kept repeating this, like the

1514
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 4: same stores like Gucci Gucci that.

1515
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 7: Seems very urban and black to keep.

1516
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 4: Saying Gucci got locked and Gucchi, Like niggas love Gucci,

1517
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 4: we get it, Okay, we get it. But also the

1518
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 4: surf shop on fucking in Santa Monica got fucking looted,

1519
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 4: all non blacks peeling out.

1520
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 2: Of there with full surfboards.

1521
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 7: Okay, So it's like nobody wanted to cover that ship.

1522
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 4: So it was just interesting to be there and then

1523
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 4: to we were honestly watching it at the same time

1524
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 4: and just see, you know, how they're trying to portray

1525
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 4: the situation when it's not that.

1526
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 7: And bitch Beverly Hills room data was locked down.

1527
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 4: Those niggas were out there just chilling on their cars,

1528
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 4: just posted because that's really what they give to talk about.

1529
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 4: Fucking bel air the right off of Laura Canyon. They

1530
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 4: hired private security, they've they've banned it off of cars

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01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: because they're they're trying to make it like you know,

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01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 4: and truth you told people are gon probably try and

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01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 4: run into somehow.

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01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 7: Is because if your criminal, now is a good time

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01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 7: to be an extra criminal.

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01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 4: Right, If I'm criminally i'm now. But that's not all

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01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 4: that's happening. It's not all criminal, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's just.

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01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 4: Be careful of the news that you consume in high

1540
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 4: and how often turn that shit off because it's not true.

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 7: And you just have to be conscious of how you're

1542
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 7: getting fed information.

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01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 4: These the government owns fucking the radio and major television

1544
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 4: and everything else that we consume.

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01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 7: So use your fucking intuition and your witch shit in

1546
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 7: your brain and go on that right. Sorry, that was

1547
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 7: a Ryan got high.

1548
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: No, it's fine, it was good.

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01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: Well, I am excited because we are gonna have ray

1550
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 3: on so you guys, I don't know if you guys

1551
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 3: remember we interviewed Sean King this year actually god, no

1552
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 3: was it year? And we interviewed him and his wife,

1553
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 3: Ray King, and they actually started their own podcast, and

1554
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 3: you know, it's all about her.

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01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: Marriage to the movement.

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01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, to the movement.

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: She's yeah, she imagine being the wife of the biggest activists,

1558
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 3: black activists pretty much, I would say, in the world.

1559
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 3: And she just has a lot of perspective. She's so

1560
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 3: so so smart as an educator. And we're having her

1561
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 3: on because I don't know, I feel like it is

1562
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 3: a good time to talk about race and talk about

1563
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 3: how are we talking about how are we having these

1564
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: conversations with our kids, because.

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01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: Ultimately they're the future.

1566
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 3: They are Like I think about Irene and I talked

1567
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: about that fear of like what I'm leaving her too,

1568
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 3: but also like what am I arming her with? And

1569
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: like even white kids, what are we arming white kids with?

1570
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 3: What are white parents? How are white parents how much

1571
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 3: conversation with their kids? Because that is so funny. You

1572
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 3: guys have such a responsibility, you really do. And you

1573
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 3: can drop the ball very easily or you can just

1574
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 3: pick it up right now and make those changes now, because.

1575
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: It fucking matters, It really fucking matters, And so.

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01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 4: I am I mean, And there's a lot of non

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01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 4: black parents with black children, and that's.

1578
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 5: A whole thing.

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: And that's the whole thing too. You don't get to

1580
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: miss out on that either. And I care if you

1581
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: think he's passing.

1582
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 4: It's vital that you don't think that your kid is passing,

1583
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 4: and that you don't have to have these conversations, and

1584
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 4: that you keep telling your kids that you know race

1585
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 4: doesn't matter, because what will happen is going to be

1586
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 4: this rude, fucking awakening one day and it's not gonna

1587
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 4: feel nice. It doesn't feel good to realize suddenly in

1588
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 4: a jolting way that somebody sees you differently than someone

1589
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 4: else is solely because of it.

1590
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, it's it's they're hard, they're different conversations.

1591
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 3: But I'm excited because Ray's coming on. We can ask

1592
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 3: I have a lot of questions. I want to ask

1593
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 3: her too, because she has more, she has more experiences

1594
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 3: than anyone. She has to talk to her kids about

1595
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 3: race constantly because of the work that her and her

1596
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 3: husband do, and.

1597
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: She's a diversity educator.

1598
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 7: She's she's both like, she's the person we should.

1599
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 3: So tell all your mommy friends, tell your wife friends,

1600
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 3: go tell your wife friends to join a conversation. They

1601
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 3: need to be in this talk more and more than

1602
01:15:56,160 --> 01:16:00,520
Speaker 3: anyone honestly. I mean we do too, obviously. But yeah,

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01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 3: and that's gonna be on Friday.

1604
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 4: At five pm Pacific and in eight pm East Term time.

1605
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if.

1606
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 3: You want to join that zoom zoom, make sure you

1607
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 3: sign up for our Patreon. We're going to be sending

1608
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,440
Speaker 3: out a zoom link to all of our patrons.

1609
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:21,879
Speaker 1: This is a patron only.

1610
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 3: Event, so if you are a patron, you're already invited

1611
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 3: it and so we will sign out those zoom liek.

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Speaker 3: We'll have more information on our Instagram this week.

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Speaker 7: And be love you guys, Thanks for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you guys next week. Be safe out there,

1615
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: fight the good fight.

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Speaker 3: Lad laves night bles how