1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Bucky back with you, Buck? How you doing, man? Great? 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: I'm great. Let's go closer to the preseason really kicking 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: off in earnest So yeah, I'm excited. Yeah. We have 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game last week. Now everything gets 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: growing here. Uh, the season is just beginning, and we 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: have a full slate of preseason games this weekend, which 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna have you covered with our three episodes a week, 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: so we'll be recapping these games, talking about some of 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: these breakout players. A lot of stuff we want to 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: get to today though, Buck, We've got some kind of 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: breaking news as we've got this morning going here, two 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: big storylines we're gonna get to in just a moment. 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: We're also gonna get a chance to talk about some 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: some guys we can't wait to watch in the preseason, 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: some breakout candidates, and even gonna mix in a little 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: dark horse super Bowl contenders. Here. Are you ready to roll? Man? 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean I do like that. Let's do it all right. 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Let's start with a couple of news items that just happened. 21 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Um the first one, man, you hate to see this, 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: but McKay Beckton, it looks like he's probably gonna miss 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: the season. Buck serious knee injury, the same leg as 24 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: the other injury, but it's a little different, uh this time. 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: So you hate to see that. I know much was 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: made about is he gonna be the left tackle, the 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: right tackle? They announced right at the beginning, Coach sala 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: he was going to be the right tackle, George Fan 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: on the left getting himself back into shape. And we 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: know when he's healthy and on the field, he can 31 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: be a dominant player. But unfortunately it's gonna be tw 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: years in a row where he pretty much misses the 33 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: whole season. Buck. Yeah, really unfortunate. Uh, it's unfortunate for 34 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: the Jets. Is unfortunate for Beckton. For the Jets, it 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: certainly impacts their quarterback, their franchise quarterback, because no matter 36 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: what we thought, eventually McKay Beckton was going to work 37 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: his way into the lineup, high end player, player that 38 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: had a lot of expectations and hopes in terms of 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: helping to rebuild this offensive line. So now he's not available, 40 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: and then from McKay Beckton, you talked about for the 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: second year in a row, he's going to miss significant time. 42 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: And as we think about being a franchise player, a 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: pillar for the or the foundational piece for this rebuilding project, 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: he hasn't been there. And so you just wonder, when 45 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: you're the Jets, how long before you have to really 46 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: think about moving on in terms of, Hey, we love 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: the player, but it's been unfortunate. We have to at 48 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: some point have someone that could be a cornerstone player 49 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: at that position. Uh, little man not what anyone who 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: works in the team wants to see. And hopefully he 51 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: can have a full recovery and come back and be 52 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: the player that we thought he could be when he 53 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: was coming on a Louis. This brings up interesting scouting 54 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: nugget though. When you look at a guy like Elijah 55 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Vera Tucker who had played tackle and who had played 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: guard um at USC you have somebody like that, look 57 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: you can you know it might sign Dwayne Brown as 58 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: we're recording this, maybe as you're listening to it or 59 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: watching it, they already have that done. But that that's 60 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: an option. You go get a veteran guy, um you 61 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: drafted somebody in Max Mitchell who's kind of a swing 62 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: tackle um out of Louisiana. Can you can he plug 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: in there as a rookie. Maybe it's a little early 64 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: for him, but those are options. The thing you gotta 65 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: remember when you get guy that's versatile that's played both 66 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker, if you're if your next best lineman 67 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: as an interior guy, you can always kick Vera Tucker 68 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: out there. To write Tackle so and scouting. When you're 69 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: in those meetings, Buck and you're talking about a guy 70 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: having four and five position flexibility, it's it's for things 71 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: like this. It absolutely is for situations like this, and 72 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: that's why we love guys who play multiple positions, particularly 73 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: on the ofensive line. And as we think about the 74 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: composition of the offensive line, you want to think about 75 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: the first eight. In that first eight meaning the starting 76 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: five and the three backups, those backups need to have 77 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: some flexibility when it comes to being able to play 78 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: multiple spots because in instances like this, that versatility allows 79 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: you to put the best five on the field. So 80 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker becomes a very valuable piece because maybe 81 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: you have that conversation with are you more comfortable playing 82 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: inside like you're doing. Now, do you have the ability 83 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: to go outside. Let's see what it looks like. Who's 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: the next person up that are an interior player than 85 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: an outside of player. All of those conversations will ultimately 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: determine the decision that you make when it comes to 87 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: putting the best five out there when you have the 88 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: season opener. Yeah, I think about it from a quarterback standpoint, 89 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: I would probably prefer to have Vera Tucker stay at 90 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: guard and then I'm rock solid up the middle with 91 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: him and Lake and Thomason as your two guards. Um 92 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: a government center spot, you feel like you're pretty solid inside, 93 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: you can help out a right tackle. There's only probably 94 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: three to five, you know, solid right tackles in this league. 95 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: Almost every team has to has to cover up for 96 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: that guy. I'd rather account for a little bit of 97 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: an issue there than to have an issue inside. You 98 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: get beat inside, it's over. So I would imagine very 99 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Tucker probably gonna stay inside and hope that one of 100 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: these other guys, maybe it's Dayne Brown, that comes in 101 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: and solves that problem. We're gonna have some more jets 102 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: here in just a little bit. Another news the item 103 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: Roquan Smith, the Bears in a in a organization searching 104 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: for some positive news not getting it here. Um arguably 105 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: their best defensive player, one of the best linebackers and football. 106 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: He's been looking for a contract extension. They aren't close, 107 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: and now he comes out today in the notes app. 108 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: By the way, nice nicely done in the notes app 109 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: on his iPhone. He's requested to trade your thoughts on 110 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: that one. Well, my thoughts are, man, Uh, it's a 111 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: delicate balance when you are a new regime coming coming in. Uh, 112 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: you want to take horror line stances because you're trying 113 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: to establish the culture. You're trying to establish the culture 114 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: in every form and aspect of the organization, from how 115 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: we perform on the field, how we get go about 116 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: our business in the off season, how we deal with 117 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: contract snaff foods and situations. And this is Ryan Poles 118 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: and Matt ever Flew is taking a hard line stance 119 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: on how they want to get it done. Now, what 120 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: you don't want to happen is one of your best 121 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: players you have to move on from because it doesn't 122 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: fit with how you're doing business. But at the end 123 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: of the day, if you're the Bears, and this is 124 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: a rebuilding project. Sometimes there can be some casualties. You 125 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: don't want it to be one of your best defenders. 126 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: But if you can't get on the same page with him, 127 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: you move on. You you look you, you take it 128 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: to the studs, and then you build it back up. 129 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: That's a choice that Ryan Poles and met you flus 130 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: up to me. Yeah, I don't think I'm I'm I'm 131 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: granting this request. If I'm the Bears, you know, hopefully 132 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: they come to a reasonable conclusion to this thing. Get 133 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: a contract that everybody's happy with. But you know you're 134 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: starting off new regime. You can make case. Oh you 135 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: trade him, you get some draft capital, kind of get 136 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: this rebuild going. I feel like this team needs some positivity. 137 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: You need some goodness. You think about eber Fleus in 138 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: his defense, the importance of that linebacker position and what's 139 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: asked of them. Think about obviously, uh the artists form 140 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: that known as Darius Leonard, Jack Leonard, his importance there 141 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: with that Colts team. Roquan Smith can do a lot 142 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: of those types of things. And I just don't think 143 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna get fair value for an off the ball linebacker. 144 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: You know, if you auction him off to the rest 145 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: of the league. I don't know that there's a big 146 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: track record of parting with high picks for off the 147 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: ball linebacker. So I don't think you're gonna get the 148 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: value you want if you want to go that route. No, 149 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't think you get a value, and you're you're 150 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: really taking a valuable in my mind, a valuable chess 151 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: piece that should have been a perfect fit for this defense. Uh. 152 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: We talked about Shaquille Leonard and what he was able 153 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: to do for the Colts and how they were able 154 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: to play as an ultible old linebacker, running and chasing 155 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: and making a bunch of plays. There's no reason why 156 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: Rokuan Smith shouldn't been able to line up in that 157 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: same position and make a ton of plays. Um, look man, 158 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: this is posturing and all this other stuff. At the 159 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: end of the day, though, something has to be made. 160 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: And if the Bears don't want to, they don't have 161 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: to because the hold out and trade requests, all that 162 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: stuff is in the Bears favor, all the punitive stuff, 163 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: the the money that you he has to show up 164 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: and play, and so you would like to negotiate and 165 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: try and get a thing done that works for both sides. 166 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: But in the day, Brokewan Smith has the option to 167 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: either playing for the Bears or setting out and losing 168 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: a ton of money. Man, We've said with the Bears, 169 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: you know all offseason, this is about getting a chance 170 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: to evaluate your young quarterback and justin fields. Now they 171 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of weapons around him on the 172 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: perimeter on offense. And now if you traded ro Kuan Smith, 173 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: you're not getting anything's gonna help you this year. You're 174 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: getting future picks. So now not only don't have all 175 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: the pieces offensively, I'm gonna weaken the defense, so he's 176 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: gonna be chasing even more points than he would have 177 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: been otherwise. It's it's a tough spot for a young 178 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: quarterback to be in. So look, maybe it happens. I 179 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: know some people of of throwing Brandon Staley and the 180 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: Chargers out there because of his history with ro Kuan Smith. 181 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: Maybe that's something they would do. I mean, they've got 182 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: the whole Derwin James contract they've got to get figured out. 183 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: I can't imagine they're gonna take on ro Kuan Smith 184 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: and and try and get that contract paid. And we 185 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: still have to take care of Derwin. Um, I just 186 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: don't see that one happening. And maybe a great fit, 187 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, scheme wise, and plug right in there with 188 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: your tranquil I just I think they've got other priorities 189 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: at this point in time with Chargers. Yeah, absolutely, Um, 190 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: it would be a great fit, But I don't think 191 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: this is one that that can happen. And so look, 192 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: we got a couple of weeks before we have to 193 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: get to business when it comes to playing football in 194 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: the regular season opening. Hopefully before that time they can meet, 195 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: they can reach an agreement on whatever it is, and 196 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: be new contract coming in, how they're gonna handle the 197 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: next few years all that. But something has to do, 198 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: Something has to happen before we get to the regular season. 199 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: All right, buck, let's talk some breakout candidates here, guys 200 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: were looking at in the preseason that I think we're 201 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: gonna generate some buzz. And I'm not just talking about 202 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: media buzz. I'm talking about our buddies and the personnel 203 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: departments around the league. We're always in contact and you 204 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: know those texts are coming. You're gonna you're gonna see 205 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: that text about whom I was a little low on 206 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: that guy or this guy jumped off the screen. Who 207 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: do you like, Let's go to the NFC West. You 208 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: already alluded to, Uh, we can go to that division 209 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: because it's loaded. But the KNSI the Chiefs. All the 210 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: conversation around the Chiefs has been about Tyreek Hill and 211 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: what the Kenzie the Chiefs offense is going to do 212 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: without an explosive playmaker like Tyreek Hill. Well, we talked 213 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: about it leading up to the draft. Scott Moore is 214 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: a guy that is terrific with the ball in his hands. 215 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: He not only is terrific as a catcher run specialist, 216 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: he can take the top off the defense. He can 217 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: do so many things on the perimeter that he to 218 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: meet is a natural fit to d into that spot. 219 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: I know they have Nicole Hardman, but I think with 220 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: a strong preseason, Scott Moore is going to earn a 221 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: ton of opportunities to touch the rock and be a 222 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: big part of this offense. You know, one of the 223 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: things I think about the Chiefs in that offense, you 224 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: mentioned sky More and we talked about what they lost 225 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: with some of that speed and explosion. As with Tyreek Hill. 226 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, Marcus Valdez Scantling can give you some of 227 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: the vertical stretch. He doesn't have all the change of 228 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: direction explosiveness. Nobody does that Tyree kill does. But one 229 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: area I think they'll be better. When you talk about 230 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: sky More and Juju Smith Schuster, these are tackle breakers buck, 231 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: So you get the ball in their hands, they're gonna 232 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: challenge your second or you get those guys in the ground. 233 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: They're not easy tackles. No, that's certainly not easy, uh 234 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: to bring down. And when we think about this game 235 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: and everyone wants to know, how is this offense going 236 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: to change? DJ, I think you kind of gave us 237 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: a little peek at what's going to happen. More of 238 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: those quick rhythm throws, more of those short crossing routes 239 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: where guys are running across the field, horizontally breaking tackles, 240 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: picking up games. I don't think it would be the 241 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: vertical offense that we've seen in the past, but I 242 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: believe they can be just as effective because I still 243 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: believe this is a fast offense, and fast guys in 244 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: space can give people problems if you take bad angles. 245 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Teams switched. You saw it last year, right to everybody 246 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: play too high against Kansas City Chiefs we're gonna keep 247 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: the ball in front. So I think that Brett Veach 248 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: and Andy Reid got together and said, Okay, if they're 249 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: gonna keep everything in front, we need guys that can 250 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: do stuff with the ball in their hands after the catch. 251 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: If we're not gonna be able to play over the top, 252 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: if we've got to play underneath, let's stress the defense. 253 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: Let's challenge a defense and get some guys that are 254 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: tough to bring down. I think they've done that. I 255 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: like your pick there of Sky More as somebody to 256 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: watch their uh in the preseason. Also, real quick before 257 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: we move on to mind brings me to your point 258 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: that you mentioned with your time in Green Bay and 259 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: always pursuing guys with return value and return skills because 260 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: of the importance of run after catch. Obviously you were 261 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: there with Andy Reid. Yeah, and he certainly understands that 262 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: in values that you look at the guys that we're 263 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: talking about, all of them have some kind of return experience. 264 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: I think the only one that I don't know for 265 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: sure has at is MVS. But Judice Schuster, Um, Scott Moore, 266 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: Nicole Harmon, all those guys are to riffing with the 267 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: ball in the hands. I believe this offense is going 268 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: to be a little more quick rhythm, get the ball out, 269 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: look for the running backs to be involved in the 270 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: screen game. But I do expect Scott Moore after the 271 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: preseason to be one of the guys that we're talking 272 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: about being a big part of this offense. In two 273 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: are you on offense, I'm gonna go defense. I'm gonna 274 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: go to the Dallas Cowboys. And we talked about him before, 275 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: but Sam Williams is an edge rusher. Randy Gregory's gone, 276 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have to fill that void. We've kind of speculated, Okay, 277 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: maybe Michael Parsons gets a little more work off the edge. 278 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: I know Dan Quinn said there's going to be some 279 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: games where, yeah, they're gonna cut Michael Parsons loosen and 280 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: let him do that for an entire game. But Sam 281 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: Williams is going to give them the flexibility to keep 282 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: Mica off the ball because he's such a dynamic rusher. 283 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: And we talked about it had some off the field issues, 284 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: that's why he fell on the draft. But I don't 285 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: know that either one of us are surprised with all 286 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: of the all the note righty. He's getting during training camp, 287 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: all the buds that he's creating. This guy is a 288 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: nightmare buck. We saw him in a couple of All 289 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: Star Games and uh now he's gonna be a problem, 290 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: especially when you have so much attention going to the 291 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: other side, so much attention. And what I love about 292 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: the pick Sam Williams first quickness, his explosiveness only enhances 293 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: the speed that we are ready to see on this 294 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defense. Um, he is one of the guys 295 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on because he could be that 296 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: next guy that you look up and he has ten 297 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: sacks owner his rookie season because he is so terrific 298 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: coming off the ball and you have an opportunity him 299 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: and you bring Anthony Barry and Michael Parisons. You have 300 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: all these stand up, move around guys who have athleticism 301 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: and playmaking ability. This defense. They have pieces that are 302 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: really intriguing and I like, and they need this defense 303 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: to play because offensively, it appears that they've taken a 304 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: step back and we'll see what that looks like for 305 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys as preseason gets underway. I'm looking forward 306 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: to their joint practice with the Chargers. Those would be Uh, 307 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: the will be fun to watch with all the talent on. 308 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: Those two rosters were out there at the Chargers just 309 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: the other day. If you missed that episode, I encourage 310 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: you to go back and listen to it, as we've 311 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: got a chance to visit with some of their top 312 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: players as well as their general manager Tom Tolesco. All Right, 313 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: we hit on a couple of rookies. We're gonna take 314 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: a quick break. We're gonna come back and hit on 315 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: some more rookies that we are stoked to watch here 316 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: in the preseason. We'll be back right after this. All right, Buck, 317 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: this is the time where we get to see these 318 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: rookies on NFL field for the first time. It's it's 319 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: equally thrilling and scary. Right when you evaluated these guys, 320 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: you think you know what you're gonna get. Uh, Sometimes 321 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: you're pleasantly surprised, and sometimes it's a little bit of 322 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: barre your head under your pillow and cry yourself to 323 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: sleep because they don't look good. But give me a 324 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: rookie that you are fired up to watch here in 325 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: the preseason. All of the his clips, Derek Stingley appears 326 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: to be the guy that we saw his freshman season. 327 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: He looks like a monster on the perimeter when you 328 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: see him playing one on one and just the ability 329 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: need a shadow in space, to be able to stab 330 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: and rock with receivers at the line of scrimmage. He's 331 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: displaying all of that already for the Houston Texas. But 332 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: now I want to see Kenny take what he's already 333 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: impressed us with all the practice field. Can he put 334 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: it on tape in games? Because if he does that 335 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: in the preseason, we now will have any better understanding 336 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: of why I love you. Smith was like, this is 337 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: like they have to be a cornerstone for this defensive project. 338 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: He's talented, man, I just want to see if it's real. Yeah. 339 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we've always set it through the draft process. 340 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: If you get the best version of Derek Stingley, you 341 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: might get the best player in the entire draft. He's 342 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: got that type of ability, and it sounds like from 343 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: the practice reports he's delivered. So I'm excited to see 344 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: that one. He was the first corner taken in the draft. 345 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: The guy that was right behind him is gonna be 346 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: on my list, and that's a sauce gardener to me. 347 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: With the Jets. Wait, hold on, wait a second. Stingly 348 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: went before, he went before Sauce, right, refresh my memory, Buck, 349 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: he went through, he went through, and Sauce went four. 350 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: That might start losing my mind. I just want to 351 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: make sure giving anything that's not factually correct here. But 352 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watch all these Jets rookies. There's 353 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: four of them, three first round picks, high second round pick. 354 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardener, the first one up the corner. The length um, 355 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: the competitiveness wasn't challenged a lot at Cincinnati. Uh, He's 356 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: gonna get challenged. I think that starts here in the preseason. 357 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: I think he's got some good work working against Elijah 358 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: Moore and and and all the talented receivers they have 359 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: with the Jets. I'm gonna get to one of them 360 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: here in just a second. But Buck getting a chance 361 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: to see a mod Sauce Gardener. I'm anxious to see 362 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: that length in that size and how well it plays. Yeah, 363 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm exious to see it too, because this is so 364 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: different in terms of their style of play. But in 365 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardener, you're getting a long range e corner, a 366 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: guy who appears to be a perfect fit in this 367 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: defense based on the success that we saw with the 368 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: likes of Richard Sherman and some of the other long 369 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: players that played in this defense. This guy is long, 370 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: he has great ball skills, he's tough, he's tenacious when 371 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: he comes to his approach. I love everything about Sauce Gardener, 372 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: so I'm really excited to see him play as well. Yeah, 373 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I cheated, right. You only got to 374 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: is one name, and I said Jets top four picks, 375 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: so it's a four to one swap. So I'm gonna 376 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: see the floor to you on Garrett Wilson. I'm fired 377 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: up and see him. What are you looking forward to 378 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: seeing with the former Buckeye? Gary Wilson is de route 379 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: running ability and how quickly can he becomes the number 380 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: one receiver? Alijah Moore is out there on the outside. 381 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: Corey Davis is another guy. But King Garrett Wilson supplanted 382 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: those guys and become Zach Wilson's best friend in the 383 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: passing game. Terrific route running, big time playmaker. We've talked 384 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: about it over and over and over again. The guys 385 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: that are popping in this league are the guys that 386 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: are terrific in terms of being able to use the 387 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: skill and talent and technique as route runners to create 388 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: separation consistently. He has all the tools in the toolbox 389 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: to be a next guy, the next guy to really 390 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: popping explode. At this level, he can go play above 391 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: the rim too. I mean, I think that's something we 392 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: saw throughout his time there at Ohio States. So that 393 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: ability to go up and get it for his young 394 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: quarterback and Zack Wilson, that'll be big. The third first 395 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: rounder Jermaine Johnson. I went back and was looking through 396 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: my notes, Buck, this is my ninth overall player. Think 397 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: about where they got him, trading back up into the 398 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: bottom of the first round. Speed to power, he checks 399 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: those boxes. We saw him at the Senior Bowl. Nobody 400 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: had an answer for him there on the practice field, Buck, 401 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: But this is this is somebody with Karl Lawson healthy 402 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: on the other side. You look at the depth that 403 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: they have everything I've been told from guys that have 404 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: been out there with the Jets, this is the deepest 405 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: D line group they've had in a very long time. 406 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: Keep everybody fresh, Jermaine Johnson, that speed to power is 407 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a problem, Yes, speed is gonna be a problem. 408 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: And remember this, Robert Sello was a decorded in San 409 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: Francisco and San Francisco could just bring him in waves, 410 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: passed Russ rushing forward, knocking you around. Jamaine Johnson is 411 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: a guy who has the talent to be able to 412 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: do so. We saw last year in Florida State. He 413 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: dominated it, took over games at times. If he can 414 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: just kind of give the Jets some of that to 415 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: go with the rest of the guys that they have upfront, yeah, 416 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: the Jets defense will improve and it improve in a 417 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: hurry with Johnson making contributors at the lot of scrimmin 418 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: All right, that fourth high pick, top of the second round, 419 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: they come and they get Brief Hall, running back out 420 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: of Iowa State. Thought he was the best back in 421 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: the draft. That was kind of a debate, right, and 422 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: it was. It was a two man race there when 423 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: you think about Breece Hall, but Buck, I I love 424 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: Michael Carter, I love his game. I think Breece Hall 425 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: is gonna be the Bell Cow. And I'm talking this 426 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: year like right now. Yeah, man, He's kind of funny 427 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: because this would be a bad word for a New 428 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: York jest fan, but his patience is eerily similar to 429 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: Levan Bill in the hole. Young is early young, Yeah 430 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: young live that old, that boxing Levian Young, Livian Bill 431 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: that was able to be RB one wide receiver to Breese, 432 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: all this outstanding catching the ball out the backfield, can 433 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: run between the tackles. There's a lot to love about 434 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: his game. And then we think about having the combination 435 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: of resol Michael Carter behind Zach Wilson, with the young 436 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: guys outside and developed quickly, this core can be a 437 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: probably the a f C East for a long time. Yeah, 438 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: they're still holds that just jet roster. They're not complete. Man, 439 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: that skill position group compared to what they were a 440 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: couple of years ago to where they are now, it 441 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: is a very very talented group. Can't wait to watch 442 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: those guys in the preseason again. Uh, be sure to 443 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: stay with us here. I'll move the sticks as we 444 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: go through the preseason because we're gonna have everything covered 445 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: for you. The buzz we're hearing talking to buddies around 446 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: the league. What we see with our own two eyes. 447 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: Buck's gonna be out Jags, I'm gonna be out at Chargers. 448 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: We've got Chargers Rams this week Jags. Who the Jags 449 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: have Cleveland? Is that who they got Cleveland? We get 450 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: to see maybe did Shaun Bosson debut with his new team? 451 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: Get a chance to see him get some preseason action 452 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: since we won't see him for parts of the regular season. 453 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: We know that, so it should be fun. It should 454 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: be a great opportunity to see how good the Browns are, 455 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: how good they could be with number four in the mix, 456 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: but also to see kind of where are also cant 457 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: you vone Walker pick? We left off the Hall of 458 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: Fame game. It was really exciting to watch him in 459 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: flashes they see if you can put another solid performance together. Yeah, 460 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a team there in Cleveland that you 461 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: know has Super Bowl aspirations, are very talented roster. I'm 462 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: gonna see the Charger played the team who won the 463 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year in the Rams. All right, Buck, 464 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: It's it's never too early, right if we're gonna talk 465 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: super Bowl. I know we've played all of one preseason game, 466 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: but I think it's fun to kind of look at 467 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: that team. Maybe that's uh, you know, just below that 468 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: top tier that people think have a chance to to 469 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: chase the title here. So I've got mine, I know 470 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: you've got yours. Can I lead us off here? Yeah? 471 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: Go ahead. I saw them talking about this on Good 472 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: Morning Football the other day and they were laughing about 473 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: remember you know at that flashback when Jimmy Garoppolo through 474 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: like five picks in a row at training camp practice 475 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: and people wondered how in the world the forty Niners 476 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: are gonna get a first down? And that year they 477 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: went on to be in the Super Bowl, actually had 478 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: to lead in the Super Bowl, couldn't close it. And 479 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: you've you've seen some of these reports about Trey Lance, 480 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: Oh you know he missed this through, he missed that throw. 481 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: When people what people maybe on the outside, I don't 482 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: know what they're giving full appreciation to. This is one 483 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the NFL with from everything 484 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: I've been told from people who been making all the 485 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: rounds that Nick Bosa is in you know, he's always 486 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: been in great shape and he's he's since he's stepped 487 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: in the league, has been one of the most dominant players. 488 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: But he's on another another planet right now. Um So 489 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: with the defensive talent they have, I don't get carried 490 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: away about Trey Lance missing a throw here there. This 491 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be an explosive offense. You're gonna add his 492 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: legs into the mix, which is gonna make the run 493 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: game go. And I think he's gonna have time to 494 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: grow into this. Don't get carried away game one, two, three, four. 495 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna see tray Lance get better and better. And 496 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: I think this is a team buck. All they need 497 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: is a ticket to the tournament with a pass rush 498 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: and and the ability to run the football and tray 499 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: Lance getting better as the year goes along. I'm gonna 500 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: take the forty niners. Is my dark horse super Bowl contender. 501 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: Oh look at that, Look at you stepping out on 502 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: the wild side. There are a lot um There are 503 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: a lot of things that give the nine as a 504 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: chance to be that team that you're talking about as 505 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: a dark horse contender. One of their defense is outstanding upfront. 506 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa is a one man wrecking crew. But then 507 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: you think about the other guys that he's playing around 508 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. That helps Damiko Rice has 509 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: also shown an ability to really muddy the game up 510 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: for a onus, So I like that honors. The big 511 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: thing is when you play good defense and you can run, 512 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: it gives you a chance. But now the expector is 513 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: trade Lens his ability to add a dimension to the 514 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: whether as a runner or as a deep all passer. 515 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: If he can just find his way and I don't 516 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: think he needs to be a low If he finds 517 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: his way to be a solid, consistent quarterback, this offense 518 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: has a chance to go from good to great with 519 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: him at him. Yeah, I think a boy Fred Warner 520 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: and all those other pieces on that defensive front man 521 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: um and that front seven, they've they've got a they've 522 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: got a talented group and they get after you. So look, 523 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: it's not an easy division, um, But I think it's 524 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: it's kind of compelling that we both are picking dark 525 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: horse contenders and we both land on the NFC. Yeah, 526 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean I'm going I don't I don't know if 527 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to see t A. But I 528 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: made my artistic debut and so I saw that better 529 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: than I could do. I mean, so I'm going with 530 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: the Saints. I'm going with the Saints as a team 531 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: to watch as a dark words contended because number one, defensively, 532 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: they're terrific. Dennis Allen has done a great job of 533 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: really assembling a defense, and they create problems too. I 534 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: think offensively, they really upgraded the weapons on game and 535 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: James Muston has plathoro Uh playmakers to throw to Michael Thomas, 536 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry. You think about Cristal Lovey coming over, you 537 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: always have Alvin Kamar coming out of the backfield. That 538 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 1: is a problem. They can stretch you so many different ways. Um, 539 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be problematic for a defensive coordinated to come 540 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: up with the plan to do it. But I think 541 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: maybe the most important reason why they can emerge as 542 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: a dark horse contender they have no fear. They have 543 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: no fear of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the Tampa 544 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: Buccaneers are gonna be one of the teams that you 545 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: have to knock off on the way to the Super Bowl. 546 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints have dominated this series since Tom 547 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: Brady has been there, particularly in the regular season. That 548 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: that that lack of fear, that lack of not being 549 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: spooked by the Boogeyman TV twelve, that gives them a 550 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: chance when they get into the tournament to go far. 551 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: I like the Saints. I like how they're how they're 552 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: looking at how their position head into the season. Yeah, 553 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: that's one of the more bizarre things. The Bucks can't 554 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: beat them, maybe him in the postseason, but outside of that, 555 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: they have not been able to beat the Saints. You know, 556 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: when I look at when I look at that group, 557 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: and to me, I think Michael Thomas is a key. 558 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: You know, if they get him back and healthy and 559 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: he's what we remember him being, that just adds a 560 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: whole another element. Because we talked about number one white out. 561 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: It's third down, red zone. You know where the ball 562 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: is going, you can't do anything about it. And when 563 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is healthy and he's right, that's that's what 564 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: he is. Um. Everybody the state even know where the 565 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: ball is going. You can't do anything about it. Um. 566 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a key element for them going forward. 567 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting we both go NFC because 568 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: a f C, I feel like there's dan you know, 569 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: nine ten teams that are like Super Bowl contenders, so 570 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: a little bit easier fight to get there. On the 571 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: NFC side, this year, yeah, this year is different. NFC 572 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: is loaded, is loaded with quarterback play. It's literally hash 573 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: rushers on that side. The NFC is a little different, 574 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: so it doesn't doesn't surprise me. That surprised me that 575 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: you picked the night is like it wo to say, 576 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: so I'm not not surprised at all. It they came 577 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: from the NFC is dark Horse. I'm gonna I'm gonna 578 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: give you a musical question here real quick as we 579 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: get ready to wrap this up. Okay, So I like, 580 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: I've got I'm trying to find stuff to put on 581 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: the on the shelves right, so he just moved. I'm 582 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: just getting stuff out of boxes. I still have a 583 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of work to do. But one 584 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: of the additions, which I've got some comments on, is 585 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: the globe. So that globe. People think, oh, you know, 586 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: you've got a globe for your office. It's my It 587 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: was like literally my son who's now fourteen, and he's like, 588 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: I can't have this globe in my room anymore. So 589 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: he outgrew the globe, but not me. No, I bring 590 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: in the globe. The globe has its resting place, is 591 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: it right here? I'm looking at right there. So every 592 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: time I see the globe, buck, I think about the 593 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: old song. Do you remember the song? I've been around 594 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: the world and I yeah, yeah, And who sings that song? 595 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you, I'll give hold on, I'll give you, 596 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: I'll give you twenty. But you tell me, there's no 597 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: way you have this club in your bag? Who sings 598 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: that song? You got no shot you know the song though, God, 599 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: I kidder, you don't know. Its zero chance you got this. 600 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: Lisa Stansfield, Lisa Stansfield. I think climbing. I think climbing 601 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: behind the glass and maybe had a shot at that 602 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: I was brecking my brown who yeah, No, there's no way. 603 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: There's nobody, nobody else back there. Kali. No Bill, I 604 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: mean no, Bill wasn't even a thought in his mother's 605 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: mind at that point in time when this song came out. 606 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: So that's, uh, he's not gonna know that one. But anyways, 607 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: that's all right. We'll get you. We'll get your easier 608 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: music question on the next move, the six, which we 609 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: have coming up, because we got three episodes a week. 610 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: We're in the middle of the season. We're rolling here, um, 611 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: so you'll have us to listen to and watch and 612 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: you can find us digitally. By the way, the bill, 613 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: jump in my ear and tell me where people can 614 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: find the show. Visually. Um, if they're just listening to 615 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: the pod right here, where can they find these We 616 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: got so NFL YouTube, NFL dot com, and the NFL 617 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Plus app right or just the NFL app where you've 618 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: got access to everything on there. So if you want 619 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: to watch the show in the NFL Fast channel, okay, 620 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: there's another option. So if you want to see this 621 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: globe and some emergy shows and we got you covered, um, 622 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for us to appreciate 623 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: you guys hanging with us. We'll catch next time right 624 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: here on, move the sticks