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Speaker 3: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: This he is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Windstuck

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Speaker 3: where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton,

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Speaker 3: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon.

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Speaker 4: Gross Big Dory mony, You look alive at Tostitos Championship.

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Speaker 5: Plows outside the Ford Center at Starr in Frisco, Texas,

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Speaker 5: where the sixty degrees, the high is sixty two, the

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Speaker 5: low is thirty six.

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Speaker 6: The fall has finally come. He is Shannon, That is Nate,

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Speaker 6: This is Kurt. In the back is Chris. I am

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Speaker 6: Salt and Pepper Poppy to other. We make Hanging with

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Speaker 6: the Boys the sports talk equivalent people.

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Speaker 7: When we speak, brought to you each and every day

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Speaker 7: by wing Stop.

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Speaker 5: Where I guess who's back, Flavor gets it.

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Speaker 6: We showed yourself to be worthy of coming back.

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Speaker 7: Randon cooks the number two guys, how is Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 5: Kurt?

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Speaker 1: It's good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I had a good time, good food, good family, all that.

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Speaker 5: All four of the kids there.

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Speaker 7: You put five following him for six years, Nate.

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Speaker 1: That was yours, man, Man, I'm good man. Yeah, odoga okay,

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Speaker 1: wait we'll get there in a minute. Jesse, how was you?

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Speaker 7: Jesu give us a minute, I said, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying. Oh my god, Jess, I'm gonna jump on

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Speaker 1: with your boys. It was good man. You know what.

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Speaker 6: We three of us here, four three of us, well,

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Speaker 6: two of us on this show. Work on Thanksgiving? Look

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Speaker 6: you work on Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: You got right?

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Speaker 7: Stories right? Yeah you Yeah, I was work nothing.

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Speaker 6: No, I was working.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't working.

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Speaker 6: I have mine on on Wednesday. So it was good.

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Speaker 6: And of course worked the game on on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: But I'll go you worked that game. Yeah, yeah, I like.

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Speaker 1: I like how you say that.

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Speaker 6: We get to work the game.

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Speaker 1: That's a privilege.

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Speaker 6: That's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not only for the Cowboys, for all employees.

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Speaker 7: Congratulations to Josh this week.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Joosh had the score twenty seven seventeen.

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Speaker 7: Cowboys, So good job, Josh.

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Speaker 5: I missed it by I missed you by one point four. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: did we, Jess your stat of the week?

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Speaker 6: It came true again, did it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: One do Robinson did not.

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Speaker 5: Have seventy five yards no Ard do you have a touchdown? Nope,

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Speaker 5: no touchdown, So you hit both of them.

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Speaker 7: There you go. The Street Lives Live on Streets Night.

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Speaker 7: All right, Nate, overall thoughts on the game, and then

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Speaker 7: you can.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, just make it to the

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Speaker 1: ten out with you. I just like when I do

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Speaker 1: Dog Person Out. I liked it. He did okay for

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Speaker 1: the thirty snaps he did, he did okay. All right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's all I want to say.

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Speaker 7: That's it.

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Speaker 5: No other thoughts go oh yeah, man, overall thoughts on

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Speaker 5: the whole game, Oh yeah, good, bad, indifferent?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I just want to say this, for every

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Speaker 1: game that the Cowboys win from this point on, how

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Speaker 1: many they half left. If we can get three out

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Speaker 1: of three out of five, you screw your draft pick

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Speaker 1: up on Micy.

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Speaker 6: Mike is getting closer. Freaking Mike, just get it closer.

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Speaker 7: So you you think he wins three out of five,

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Speaker 7: you get through out of five.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's better give Philly a run for

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Speaker 1: the money. They beat us in overtime or something like

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Speaker 1: that about seven points.

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Speaker 7: So that'd be five out of the last seven.

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Speaker 1: Man, Yes, sir, come on, freaking Mike.

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Speaker 6: there is a path. There is a path that freaking

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Speaker 6: Mike could come back, right right. The only way that

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Speaker 6: I would be fully on board or freaking Mike coming back.

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Speaker 7: I want to hear this Mark this Chris.

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Speaker 6: The only he has to be the walk around head coach.

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Speaker 6: The only way I agree, or well, not that I

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Speaker 6: to bring someone in here of the younger variety, someone

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Speaker 6: who is For example, if the Miami Dolphins continue to

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Speaker 6: bring theoretical, just theoretical, just theoretical. You want to keep

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Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy. Give me, Mike McDaniels that your OFFICEI.

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Speaker 6: You gotta give me something like that where where they

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Speaker 7: So you go with him staying as long as you

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Speaker 7: have a innovative I need I need.

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Speaker 6: I need that part the innovation. I need the innovation.

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Speaker 6: I need the creativity. I need the flat out stealing

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Speaker 6: they're they're gonna be a couple coordinators that or or

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Speaker 6: So I wouldn't be mad if you brought back Mike

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Speaker 6: Zim Defensively, there's something about like I want fresh ideas

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Speaker 6: his own. Now you can now the players that you

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Speaker 6: And I do think what we're seeing in the last

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Speaker 6: And I think you see a little bit more now

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Speaker 5: Feel like Jesse has grown because of this show, and

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Speaker 5: he has grown as a person, and he's open and

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Speaker 5: this show. And I thank you date for opening his

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Speaker 6: But if you're not giving me what I want, I'm out,

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Speaker 6: clean house.

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Speaker 1: What your butt your but what is your butt? Le's think?

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I ride with you?

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Speaker 6: Boy got my back.

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Speaker 2: I like what you're thinking. I'm not sure it's going

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Speaker 2: to happen, But I don't think Macarthy's going to give

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Speaker 2: nice win.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, good way to.

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Speaker 2: Spin Thanksgiving joining a victory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you feel it?

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Speaker 7: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Not really sounds bad. Stop feel like I'm coming down

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Speaker 5: The weather, the weather changing it finally got here, and

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Speaker 5: I think it's jacked everybody up.

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Speaker 7: So all right, question for you guys on is Cavante.

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Speaker 5: Turpin now no longer just a return specialist and a

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Speaker 5: gadget guy. Is he a legitimate two slash three receiver?

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Speaker 1: No, No, he's my three receiver. He's your number three.

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Speaker 1: It's just it. I'm going with just on that. Man.

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Speaker 1: Uh he's having he's having success, and I'm glad he

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Speaker 6: What about Yeah, he's more four to me. Yeah. The

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Speaker 6: one thing that he has that is just paramount in

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Speaker 6: straight line speed. He's not like shifty breaking people down,

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Speaker 6: to run routes. But it's always a comparison of well,

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Speaker 6: you see small and you see fast, you think Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he's Tyreek Hill. I think the I

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Speaker 6: think the speed is there, but he's not the play

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Speaker 7: No, Like, very few.

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Speaker 6: Are not, you know what I'm saying. I do think

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Speaker 6: He doesn't catch well over the shoulder, he has small hands,

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Speaker 6: he wants to jump to catch everything, doesn't have really

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Speaker 6: design him to get open, you know what I'm saying. Like,

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Speaker 6: because of the limitations that you have, right. You don't

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Speaker 6: throughout the game. But to say that he's an he's

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Speaker 7: Do you think he could get there?

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Speaker 5: Do you think there's things that he can work on

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Speaker 5: fundamentally to get him because he's probably he's your most

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Speaker 6: No, the speed is a major bonus, major bonus.

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Speaker 5: One little misstep and he's by you like he's the

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Speaker 1: The reason he can be my number three guy is

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Speaker 1: because of that speed Jessy's talking about. Because you know,

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Speaker 1: I've listened to other shows. Until the Cowboys become elite,

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Speaker 1: which they're not, I always stack you against elite players

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Speaker 1: like you've named the elite player, uh Tyr Hill Not no, sir,

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Speaker 1: don't get it confused. No, I take ten of these

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Speaker 1: little guys over there to get Tyreek Hill. So you

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Speaker 1: can't when it comes to elite. Here on this team

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Speaker 1: right now, for who we are and what we're doing,

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Speaker 1: he's doing a super job. Yes, But when we play

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, we play teams of that ILK. Now, let's

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Speaker 1: see how everybody stack up. And I think that's what

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Speaker 1: you're trying. That's what you're saying, right, jess Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when it's comes time to stack up with the dogs.

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Speaker 6: Because to be the number three me mean that when

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Speaker 5: Dependable right to get that that level of Do you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fourteen snaps, he had five targets.

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Speaker 7: It's too much and whatever. Offensive guys the same way.

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Speaker 6: See, like when you say Tobert had fifty five snaps

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Speaker 7: But that's what works for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mama, Just Nate said, no, sir. You can hear

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Speaker 1: But I mean maybe if they can save Mike, then

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Speaker 1: they even better wins.

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Speaker 5: What do you think about Brandy Cook's return, About what

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Speaker 5: you expected? Had that had that that route that he

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Speaker 5: loves to run, dragging.

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Speaker 1: Him across the cross that's that's his thing.

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Speaker 7: That's his thing, got his wings.

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Speaker 6: I mean, to have the veteran knowledge like that's so critical,

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Speaker 6: especially when you don't have a lot good going for you.

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Speaker 6: Having a guy who understands now, I thought he ran

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Speaker 6: a horrible route earlier in that game. He had a

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Speaker 6: slant route in the goal line. The guy was off

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Speaker 6: covers and he comes off and he's like patting his

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Speaker 6: feet and I know the timing of it all that

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Speaker 6: he needs to come underneath that. But it was just

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Speaker 6: a bad route. It looked bad and almost got intercepted.

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Speaker 6: But having that veteran knowledge on the field, it just helps.

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Speaker 6: It just helps for a guy to know where to be,

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Speaker 6: when to be, and is dependable like he had that

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Speaker 6: third down catch. I don't to not bring up back

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Speaker 6: in the conversation, but even Brandon Cooks is a smaller guy,

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Speaker 6: understood down in distance, understood what he was supposed to

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Speaker 6: be out on the sticks, has good enough hands to

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Speaker 6: be able to reach out make that catch and get

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Speaker 6: the first down. I don't believe to Cavante would have

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Speaker 6: that skill. I think he tries to either body catch

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Speaker 6: it jumps and now it gets caught up in the air.

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Speaker 6: Fourth down, you know what I'm saying, and now they

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Speaker 6: gotta kick it. So just having that type of knowledge

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Speaker 6: in the game offensively, it doesn't always show up in

475
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Speaker 6: the numbers, right, but it's it's games are alway. You

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Speaker 6: hit coaches and players saying time and time and time

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Speaker 6: and time again. The game comes down to about three

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Speaker 6: or four plays in the game. Now you never know

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Speaker 6: when they're going to happen until hindsight gives you twenty twenty,

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Speaker 6: that Brandon Cooks catch was one of those plays. When

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Speaker 6: you go back and watch the game, you don't have

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Speaker 6: that play. You now find yourself in a different sitution,

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Speaker 6: possibly playing someself in a different situation. But because you

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Speaker 6: have that, that also helps you out. And again it

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Speaker 6: may be one play here or one play there, but

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Speaker 6: when you look at it at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: he goes, those two plays really helped our football team

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Speaker 6: win the game. And without him, I don't know if

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Speaker 6: we get those plays.

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Speaker 1: Because that fourth and one that was ugly right before

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Speaker 1: the half, I was I was dreading. Now then we

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Speaker 1: kept that I was dreading because it turned into three

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Speaker 1: for them because they stopped playing the field position game.

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Speaker 1: They punted and we punted, and they was closer and

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Speaker 1: they got the field goal. I'm saying to myself, why

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Speaker 1: didn't we just punt that ball? Our defense was playing? Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you'll never know what you know, what

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Speaker 1: can transpire?

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Speaker 11: Bo.

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Speaker 5: Can we agree on Wednesday before this game was played

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Speaker 5: that these were two of the worst teams in the NFL?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Bill Parcell says, you are what your records?

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Speaker 7: The record is two of the worst teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: This is from Sports Business Journal.

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Speaker 5: He weers The Giants Cowboys game on Thanksgiving delivered the

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Speaker 5: most watched broadcast of the twenty twenty four season, and

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Speaker 5: the you know, there's been some great games this year,

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Speaker 5: some great matchups with some great storylines, and the fourth

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Speaker 5: highest ratings of any Turkey Day game ever with thirty

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Speaker 5: eight point five million viewers. The broadcast topped out at

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Speaker 5: forty one point two to eight three million from six

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Speaker 5: to six fifteen. Eastern Fox Sports projected this is mind blowing.

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Speaker 5: Projected the Thanksgiving game as the most watched telecast on

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Speaker 5: any network since Super Bowl fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 7: Two of the worst teams in the league going into

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Speaker 7: this game.

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Speaker 6: Shout shout out the shout out to Tech Shrimp and

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Speaker 6: then shout out to Jerry Jones for saying we will

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Speaker 6: play the three point thirty game on Thanksgiving as seeing

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Speaker 6: contract for life. We're not moving off that spot. That

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Speaker 6: is the perfect time most families dinner is getting served,

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Speaker 6: almost done.

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Speaker 7: It's perfect time.

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Speaker 6: You then came back from that walk with your cousin.

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Speaker 5: You get them extraviews, you know what, You get them

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Speaker 5: extra views because you put it on the TVN and

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Speaker 5: you pass out, pass out, so you just let it

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Speaker 5: play and you get the views off that. I mean,

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Speaker 5: but that's a little bit unbelievable, you know, that's you

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Speaker 5: would think that's kind.

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Speaker 7: Of a throwaway game and whatever. But I mean, that's

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Speaker 7: two big markets Unbelieva's very true. Two big markets unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Let's take a break and then come back and talk

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Speaker 5: about the defense, because I want to get y'all's opinion on, like,

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Speaker 5: does the game look completely different to y'all when mics

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about the number when we come back. In

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Speaker 5: move on to the defense, couple couple of little things

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Speaker 5: on the offense, Real quick, Rico top one hundred yards

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Speaker 5: for the.

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Speaker 6: First time, right, first time? Twenty six games is crazy, unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: Six games.

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Speaker 7: He's now averaging kurt what four and a half yards

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Speaker 7: per carry?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: After that, game and then said, I have to pull

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Speaker 7: the stat.

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Speaker 1: Every time we rushed over nineteen carries we won, right,

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think that's right.

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Speaker 7: And then your boy, Sexy Dexy, he got handled this game.

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Speaker 6: You you made a point last week date and I

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Speaker 6: watched the entire game and it was there you said,

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Speaker 6: a guy like brock Hoffman, if you can get under

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Speaker 6: his skin, on the Decha Lauren's skin and make him

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Speaker 6: want to fight you and forget about playing football. And

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Speaker 6: that's what I like about brock Hoffman.

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Speaker 1: He's nasty. Did he did? He talk.

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Speaker 6: Man a couple of situations where after the whistle those

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Speaker 6: two guys are still going at it.

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Speaker 1: And you can get decks dex Dex is down for

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Speaker 1: some some after ball talk, but some after whistle talk

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Speaker 1: he is down for it. He just carried right on

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Speaker 1: to the next play.

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Speaker 5: Are we getting I think there's for the first time

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Speaker 5: this season a little hope right like it's you're getting

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Speaker 5: on a little bit of a roll. Is all that

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Speaker 5: going to come crashing down this week? Or do you

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Speaker 5: think they got a little momentum and they're getting the

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Speaker 5: right people back at the right time and there's actually

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Speaker 5: something to build on and finish the season strong.

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Speaker 2: I think they're building some momentum, They're feeling better, getting

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Speaker 2: more confidence. Now, this is gonna be a different beast

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Speaker 2: than the Giants. Yeah, but they're struggling to beagles.

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Speaker 5: So they're not struggling putting up points, which that's my

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Speaker 5: big worry this week.

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Speaker 1: And when they're putting up a per game about about twenty.

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Speaker 6: Eight twenty eight points when they win, thirty one points

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Speaker 6: when they lose, Wow, points when they lose, they got

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Speaker 6: it flip.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, wow, that's interesting.

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Speaker 5: So defensively, is this a completely different team defensively when

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Speaker 5: Mike is on the field.

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just one guy makes that big of a difference.

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Speaker 2: Right, Your turnovers go up and the pressures.

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Speaker 7: Like that's it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: That's what.

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Speaker 6: I don't care what coach you have. I don't care

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Speaker 6: what scheme you run. I don't care what city you're in.

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Speaker 6: I don't care what your team logo is. I don't

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Speaker 6: care who your team general manager is, owner, president or

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Speaker 6: any of that. This and every other professional league is

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Speaker 6: run by players. When you get a special talented player,

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Speaker 6: it changes everything. When the Dodgers got show Heyo Tani,

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Speaker 6: all of a sudden, other guy's numbers started going up.

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Speaker 6: When you go and get a Lebron James, all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden, the team total wins start going out. When

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Speaker 6: you add special talent in the mix. There's nobody on

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Speaker 6: that defense, nobody including thirteen, that can consistently, one on

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Speaker 6: one go get his. I don't have to be scripted,

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Speaker 6: I don't have to be schemed. I don't have to

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Speaker 6: be tricked. We ain't gotta run no games. You ain't

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Speaker 6: gotta run those. You gonna line me up on anybody

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Speaker 6: at any given time, and I can go get mine.

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Speaker 6: When you have that, that is that is the ultimate separator.

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Speaker 6: That's why there is guys who meant That's why there's

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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes that make a half a billion dollars and

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Speaker 6: we're probably about to make more. That's why you have

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Speaker 6: guys like Justin Jefferson. That's why you have guys that

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Speaker 6: are separators, because there's there's some times where you don't

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Speaker 6: even have to do anything. Them being there is enough.

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Speaker 6: And I think you're seeing that with this defense. Now

665
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 6: that Mike is coming back, all of a sudden, Osa's

666
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 6: being dominant. Uh John to Blake, give me another one,

667
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 6: of the names of the guys up front. OSHA's being dominant,

668
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 6: Golston is playing good. What's the Carl Lawson, Carl Lawson,

669
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 6: Carl Lawson. I think it was Osa and and and

670
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 6: and Carl Lawson. Since October, they have the highest two

671
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 6: pressure rates on quarterbacks from the defensive linement position. That

672
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 6: that ain't That ain't by coincidence. That ain't by coincidence

673
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 6: because all eyes when when that offensive line, that offense

674
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 6: breaks the huddle, all eyes are saying, where is number eleven?

675
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 6: And now once we find number eleven, he's gonna get action.

676
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 6: He's gonna get double and triple teams, and lines are

677
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 6: slotting to him, and backs are coming over there and

678
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 6: all the other kind of stuff. So now you leave

679
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 6: opportunity for other guys to win. So, yeah, this defense

680
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 6: is different because there's a difference maker out there.

681
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: And I think they've put in a few more tackle

682
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: in stunts games, they'll put in a few more movements,

683
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, with with with with Mike or not just

684
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: and that's helped freeing guys up too, because you'll see

685
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: some time where the tight end is in there to help,

686
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: but he coming down on a tackle stunt and that

687
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: and that, and it just throws them all off. I

688
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: mean you can see the tight end going down, you

689
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: can see the tackle going down all sudden, they just

690
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: running all through them, running in each other, and both

691
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: guys come free. You know. So I just, uh, we

692
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: may not like as old school players and fans, we

693
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: may not like the podcast, but like I keep trying

694
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: to tell a lot of people who coming up with

695
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: a lot of great ideas, this is your problem, this

696
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: is your baby. That's right. You're gonna have to pamper

697
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: this for real, I mean is wrong because you you

698
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: you know you, mister Jones, see the value in this

699
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: kid in a whole lot of ways. Uh, This coaching staff,

700
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: if they could just slow him down a little bit.

701
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: He's he's bought into a lot of the defensive philosophers,

702
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: but they just getting my My my ultimate thing is

703
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: next year, if he if he just matures to understand

704
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: that he can really take over games. I'm talking about

705
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: running pass it don't make a difference. He can really

706
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: really just take over games.

707
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 6: Because I see, I don't think he's ever going to

708
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 6: be able to take take over games in the run game.

709
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 6: It's just not big enough and that's the that's the part,

710
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 6: and this should this should be noted because we're seeing

711
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 6: what Micah has done in the last couple of wee

712
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 6: thinks he has five or six sacks in the last

713
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 6: four weeks and he back five weeks. He's been back.

714
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 6: But this is to be noted. Normally we see Micah

715
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 6: numbers do this ladies December, those four games that he

716
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 6: missed because of the high Now, I will never, ever, ever,

717
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 6: ever wish injury on any player for any team, no

718
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 6: matter what. But you can't not skip over the fact

719
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 6: of him being out those four weeks and his body

720
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 6: not getting beat up. While the ankle is healing, the

721
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 6: other parts of the body's healing too, and so now

722
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 6: you have a much fresher Michaeh Parsons, which is helping

723
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 6: this defense down. It's unfortunate that the help is the

724
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 6: record is too far gone for that help that's coming

725
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 6: now to matter in the sense. But you're seeing he

726
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 6: looks fresh, he looks fresh, he looks energetic. He don't

727
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 6: look where now And people sometimes ask me like, well,

728
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 6: what is the solution, and I'm like, there is it.

729
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 6: He's two hundred and forty five pounds and unless you

730
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 6: move him back to linebacker and he's you. You can't

731
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 6: run into three hundred and twenty and thirty pound dudes

732
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 6: and playing. You know, he's been clocked this year as

733
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 6: a defensive tackle at times because the way they do

734
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 6: a little different stunts. But he's dealing with double team.

735
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 6: He's dealing with six hundred pounds of double team, sometimes

736
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 6: eight hundred pounds of double triple teams. When you throw

737
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 6: a tight end or a running back in there over

738
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: a seventeen game period, for a guy two hundred and

739
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 6: forty five pounds, two hundred and fifty pounds, it is

740
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 6: impossible for him not to break down. There's nothing you

741
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 6: can do. He cannot have a practice. It doesn't matter

742
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 6: if he's going to play sixty snaps sixty five snaps

743
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 6: and he's playing them in the trenches. The physical human

744
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 6: body will not be able to hold up and for

745
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 6: him to be as effective as you need him to

746
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 6: be down the stretch dealing with those type of monsters

747
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 6: in the interior.

748
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: And you know the amazing thing about it is, and

749
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: I know these they can't do it today. They'll get

750
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: flagged or they'll get fed ex check on Tuesday. But

751
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: guy like him, I'll just be waiting at one time

752
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: for him to come knifing down in there the ribs.

753
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit it right in the side of his chin,

754
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: but in front of my helmet, I'm gonna bust him

755
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: red in his chin, slow him down a little bit,

756
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: two or three. I'm just gonna look at him because

757
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna stagger. He ain't big enough. I was there

758
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: in thirty found you gonna stagger, and I'm you taller

759
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 1: than me, so I got there. So I'm just saying

760
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: with Jess, I'm just added to see they do that. Now,

761
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a check said.

762
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a check deduction. Yeah, it's gonna be

763
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 6: a fine.

764
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, mister Newton, who's your favorite charny?

765
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 6: But but did you see about that? You see him,

766
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 6: You see him now, and it's like man's on he's

767
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 6: on a tear right now. Yeah, Yeah, he looked fresh.

768
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 6: The rest of the guys are kind of worn down.

769
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 6: So now he's got an opportunity to go out there

770
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 6: and be fresher, be lighter, be faster, be more aggressive,

771
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 6: and it's helped his defense significantly. But again It's to

772
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 6: be noted that when you miss those games, his body

773
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 6: is is healed. It's not as beat up as it

774
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 6: normally would have been had he played those games. And

775
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 6: now we got into late November and December, and now

776
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 6: he don't have that gidea up. You don't have that

777
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 6: extra stuff.

778
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 5: We talked about that several weeks ago. Could it be

779
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 5: a blessing in disguise with him and Tank and some

780
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 5: those guys that you know have health issues missing that

781
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 5: we didn't know the season was gonna You know, we

782
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 5: weren't going to be in this position, but you know,

783
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 5: it looks like that helped him out a little bit.

784
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 7: Talk before we get out of here. One Jesse about

785
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 7: Overshown's number.

786
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: Tell everybody what that's about.

787
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 5: But let's talk about the I want to know from

788
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: a player's perspective, the contagiousness of having fun playing football

789
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 5: and the energy. Like if you go back and watch

790
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 5: Jameis Winston last week when they were playing in the snow,

791
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 5: they did the NFL did a miked up with him

792
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 5: and it was so good they put out I don't

793
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 5: know if y'all watched it.

794
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 7: It was a thirteen minute clip.

795
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: Because there was so much in the dude is do different?

796
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 5: He was walking around eating snow, Like if you didn't

797
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 5: watch it, go it's worth the thirteen minutes.

798
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: It's small town in Alabama, good right outside of the

799
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: Crison Tide Home, Broun tusc outside of Yeah, man, But

800
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: he was just having.

801
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 7: So much fun.

802
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 5: And I think there's a lot to be said for

803
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 5: lifting everybody up around you. And energy is contagious. Talk

804
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 5: about that as a play. I mean, you guys had Mike,

805
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 5: you guys had Dion, you had Charles with you know,

806
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 5: if you're overshown, if you watching him as fun, yeah,

807
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 5: it makes me want to tune in, even if they're losing,

808
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 5: just to see what he's doing.

809
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 7: I can't even.

810
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 5: Imagine playing with him and going how fun is this?

811
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 5: You see Cavante and you know you never know what's

812
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 5: gonna happen with him. You see some of these young

813
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 5: guys like, that's got to be a spark, right, that's

814
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 5: got to help you.

815
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 6: I tell I tell Everson every time I see him,

816
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 6: And this is back and forth in that we have

817
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 6: and I say, I can tell what type of teammate

818
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 6: you are by how your former teammates greet you. Yes,

819
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 6: I can tell. I can tell if you walked into

820
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 6: a room with former teammates, I can tell how good

821
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 6: of a teammate you were by the way that they great.

822
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 6: If they just fish bump you, yeah, they say, hey,

823
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 6: what's up, dog, what's going on? Well, okay, but when

824
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 6: they go full out.

825
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 7: They going to hug you.

826
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 6: You were a good teammate. You were a good teammate.

827
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 6: Go watch a Jamis Wasston game when he's playing against

828
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 6: the team that he formerly played for, Guys wait around

829
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 6: to talk to him, to hug him, to talk to him.

830
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 6: That is a mark of a great teammate. So and

831
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 6: that's what you could tell. That's who he is. That's

832
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 6: not a facade, And ain't for the camera. That's not

833
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 6: just because I know I'm miked up or whatever. Everywhere.

834
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 6: When Jamis goes and plays the Saints, when Jamis goes

835
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 6: and plays the Bucks, when he goes any team that

836
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 6: he was on, guys are waiting for him after the

837
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 6: game to hug him and to speak to him. That's

838
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 6: a mark of a good court. That's a mark of

839
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 6: a good teammate. And that's Jamis. And you know those

840
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 6: type of guys are rare. You don't have a bunch

841
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: of those guys in your locker room. You have some

842
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 6: good guys, but there's sometimes you have locker room you're

843
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 6: just like.

844
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 5: And that energy is contagious right on the field off

845
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 5: the field, yeah.

846
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 6: Because you just know that you know what this dude,

847
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 6: what you're getting. And sometimes, like we talked about it

848
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 6: in training camp, the dog days of training camp, or

849
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 6: when you when you're in the latter parts of the

850
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 6: season and it's dragging along, he's grind you know what.

851
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Hey, we're tired, we're hurt, we're battle with bruise.

852
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 6: But here comes Jamis. Hey, fellas, get we get to

853
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 6: do this, We get to go out here. Get up dumb,

854
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 6: and he says something you'd be like, man, you know what,

855
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 6: come on, doll, you're right, let's go and he can

856
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 6: lift the spirits up of guys.

857
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 7: Tell us before we get out of here about the

858
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 7: Overshown zero and.

859
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 6: The yeah story, you know, Overshown wanted to wear zero.

860
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 6: He wore zero at Texas and he was trying to

861
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 6: wear zero and he told the story at training camp

862
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 6: before and he's like, man, you know, I was trying

863
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 6: to get zero, but they told me nah, And they

864
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 6: told him now because Rowdy wears double zero. Now, I

865
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 6: think it's just zero.

866
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: Is just zero?

867
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 6: Is it double zero?

868
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Just zero?

869
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 6: Anyway, Rowdy wears the number and they told him he

870
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 6: couldn't have it because that was Rowdy number. I think

871
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 6: that's row. I don't think Rowdy should get you know,

872
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 6: but I think he's done enough. But interesting tweet from

873
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 6: one uh damarve On Overshown. He tweeted this out two

874
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 6: days ago. He said, either I'm going to wear zero

875
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 6: or the next contract will. Either way, I'm getting it,

876
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 6: and he had the markers going up and so he

877
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 6: he didn't say contract. He wrote like a note with

878
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 6: a pencil on it. I'm assuming that means contract. You

879
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 6: need the right contract. So he says, either way, I'm

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Speaker 6: getting it. So whether you give him zero now or

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Speaker 6: you're gonna give him the zeros later, either way, Damaran Overshown,

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Speaker 6: I think he should be zero, double zero says he's

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Speaker 6: not even like do zero, like give the man he

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Speaker 6: would look really good. Yeah he does, he would. He will.

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Speaker 6: I think, Jerry, if you want to sell jerseys, if

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Speaker 6: you if you're waiting to to do this thing is

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Speaker 6: a way to sell jerseys. I think next season maybe

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Speaker 6: in it during training camp or however you let make

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Speaker 6: a big deal, you know, be at camp and get

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Speaker 6: into an argument with rowdy and just ripped his number

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Speaker 6: off and give it to give it to uh to Marveon.

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Speaker 6: But the Marion should be winging zero.

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Speaker 7: I think that.

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Speaker 5: I think when he said that he was when Jerry

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Speaker 5: said that he was joking.

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Speaker 6: You guys realize that, right, But that's what the Marveon

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Speaker 6: said that in the interview.

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Speaker 5: When because the media asked you about that, and he

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Speaker 5: was just kind of like, I mean, rally.

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Speaker 7: Wear zero and he was just you know, that's Harry,

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Speaker 7: kind of like Chris, do some research. Don't get us

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Speaker 7: in trouble, but go do some research.

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Speaker 6: I can give you some research. But I'm gonna be

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Speaker 6: on this there.

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Speaker 5: All right, we'll come back in your office, all right, fellas,

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Speaker 5: good stuff.

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Speaker 7: We actually went over. Yeah, we were going to be early.

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Speaker 7: Sorry Nate, Sorry, good seeing you guys.

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Speaker 6: Feel better? My boy? Oh man, what is going.

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Speaker 1: To be mus and eggs?

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Speaker 5: Only one pump today, Miller like whiskey and all the

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Speaker 5: over the county.

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Speaker 1: That's why, that's why you don't make it from you drinking,

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Speaker 1: quit drinking.

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Speaker 5: I have kind of slowed down and almost stopped. Thank

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Speaker 5: you very much, Chris, thanks for keeping us on their jazz.

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Speaker 1: And Josh, you ain't looking drank.

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Speaker 7: Keeping him company tomorrow. Let's take some phone calls.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back.

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Speaker 7: Want hanging with the boys.

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