Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. The NBA offseason is usually a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You have the draft and then you have free agency,
Speaker 1: and it comes right after the NBA Finals, and typically
Speaker 1: the NBA owns that stretch of June. You're really and
Speaker 1: your competition is baseball, but mid November a lot different,
Speaker 1: a lot more competition, And even if you're not distracted
Speaker 1: or we weren't by football, there's still a lot of
Speaker 1: storylines to grab onto this week. And you have a
Speaker 1: trade already with Chris Paul going to the Phoenix Suns,
Speaker 1: and maybe you get James Harden going to Brooklyn. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're going to have big name free
Speaker 1: agents hitting the market, and we don't have any idea
Speaker 1: who these draft prospects are because there was no NCAA tournament.
Speaker 1: That's usually the coming out party where we get introduced
Speaker 1: to somebody and then we fall in love with them.
Speaker 1: But the college players didn't get a chance to take
Speaker 1: that stage, so their names never took hold. You know,
Speaker 1: the real name that we know is LaMelo Ball, but
Speaker 1: that's basically because of his family, not necessarily because of
Speaker 1: his play. You got a lot of these players who
Speaker 1: played overseas and whoever these guys are, We're going to
Speaker 1: see him soon enough, because the season starts December twenty second.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of hype this week for the draft.
Speaker 1: The season will be here soon enough to keep NBA
Speaker 1: fans quite busy. But the big storyline is James Harden.
Speaker 1: Once out of Houston. They built this team around James
Speaker 1: hard Remember, James Harden didn't want to play with Chris
Speaker 1: Paul anymore, and they ship him off to Oklahoma City
Speaker 1: and send a ton of draft picks with him, because
Speaker 1: you know, James Harden wanted to play with Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 1: So Daryl Morey makes the trade the GM and then
Speaker 1: brings in Russell Westbrook. Now, I don't know if Russell
Speaker 1: Westbrook wants out or they're gonna ship him out, And
Speaker 1: James Harden now wants out as well, So their long
Speaker 1: term odds of keeping Harden are rapidly decreasing. Here. I
Speaker 1: wonder if you have a style that can keep James
Speaker 1: Harden there. You know, he's a ball dominant player, ball hog.
Speaker 1: And if you want to go to Brooklyn, is he
Speaker 1: going to be able to get back to maybe his
Speaker 1: role that he played when he was in Oklahoma City
Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant. It's hard to go from I get
Speaker 1: to shoot as much as I want every single game
Speaker 1: to hey, let's move the ball around a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think winning is the great elixir here. He's thirty
Speaker 1: one years of age. He's looking around to everybody he's
Speaker 1: playing against, and they're all winning. They've all got titles,
Speaker 1: and he once won. Kevin Durant ran into this as well.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City looked around, Hey, if I want to be
Speaker 1: recognized one of the ten great players of all time,
Speaker 1: I gotta win championships. James Harden is nothing more than
Speaker 1: what Michael Jordan was when he first started. He was
Speaker 1: a highlight reel, fun to watch, but there was nothing
Speaker 1: else attached to it. And I think when Phil Jackson
Speaker 1: came in and is able to say to Michael, you
Speaker 1: know your legacy is going to be just one of
Speaker 1: the great scores of all time, why not be one
Speaker 1: of the great winners of all time. I don't know
Speaker 1: if James Harden cares about that. I know Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: cares about his legacy. I don't know if Kyrie does.
Speaker 1: But if you're going to put those three together and
Speaker 1: they understand what their roles are or what they want
Speaker 1: to play. Can they play a Golden State style of offense?
Speaker 1: Would be my big curiosity there. And we'll talk to
Speaker 1: Woas about this because I think it looks like a
Speaker 1: hot mess because you've got a new coach, Steve Nash
Speaker 1: never coached before. Mike D'Antoni is there on the roster
Speaker 1: as an assistant coach, and then you're going to bring
Speaker 1: in James Harden, and you're gonna have Kyrie and Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant and who's running the team. And it feels like
Speaker 1: everybody's going to take their turn and I'm the coach, No,
Speaker 1: you're the coach. I want to be the coach who's
Speaker 1: taken the last shot. All of this, you know James Harden,
Speaker 1: you know he's wanting this, and people make a big
Speaker 1: deal that he turned down a two year extension for
Speaker 1: over one hundred million dollars. He's still going to get paid.
Speaker 1: James Harden has made a half a billion dollars in
Speaker 1: his career. If you look at the Adidas deal that
Speaker 1: he's signed, which is a couple of hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the James Harden shoe looks
Speaker 1: like does anybody? And I know that I'm not in
Speaker 1: their demo. You're going to bring it a guy for
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars. I don't know what Adidas gets
Speaker 1: out of that, but James Harden got paid, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna get paid. Maybe he doesn't get fifty million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, but he's got a half a billion dollars
Speaker 1: right now, and maybe he takes a little less. I
Speaker 1: don't know what Brooklyn is going to give up to
Speaker 1: get James Harden. Can they give Houston enough to bring
Speaker 1: him in? Is that the only destination for him? And
Speaker 1: if I'm the Rockets, I'm not in any hurry to
Speaker 1: help out James Harden at all. Be like, all right,
Speaker 1: you want out? Okay, you got two years left with us, James,
Speaker 1: you help us? How do you help us? Because we
Speaker 1: got to rebuild this entire system. You got a new
Speaker 1: head coach coming in. How do you feel if you're
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook? James wants you. They're gonna trade all these
Speaker 1: picks you get there. Oh, Harden wants out now? And
Speaker 1: then who's gonna want Russell Westbrook? A ball dominant and
Speaker 1: a big salary and he's not as good as player
Speaker 1: as James Harden, but last one out of Houston turn
Speaker 1: the lights off. Yes, I got a few NBA questions,
Speaker 1: all right, First of one, doesn't feel like Russell westbrook'sill
Speaker 1: be playing in China in about two years for seventy
Speaker 1: five million a year. All right, back to this, if
Speaker 1: you're Chris Paul, why would you want to go play
Speaker 1: for the Phoenix Suns when you don't have a ring
Speaker 1: and you're getting older? Where is he gonna go a
Speaker 1: team that has a better chance to win a title?
Speaker 1: But who is taking him? I don't know. It just
Speaker 1: seems like you've got to give me the destination before.
Speaker 1: But doesn' Chris Paul have like eighteen no trade clauses
Speaker 1: where he decides where he goes. Well, you decided to
Speaker 1: go to Phoenix, Okay? I thought Milwauke Milwaukee wasn't interested.
Speaker 1: I think he would have gone to Milwaukee, and so
Speaker 1: he went to Phoenix for a lifestyle move. Do you think, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm a big serious yes, yes, okay, I think it's
Speaker 1: a young team. It's really to me it hinges on
Speaker 1: DeAndre eight and if he becomes a great player, then
Speaker 1: they have a chance. They're not winning a title in
Speaker 1: the next two years. I mean, they're just not. My
Speaker 1: next question is, Okay, if if the Houston Rock has
Speaker 1: tried to trade James Harden to the Brooklyn Nets, what
Speaker 1: could the Nets give up? That's hard and worthy. They're
Speaker 1: not giving up their two star players. A bunch of
Speaker 1: B minus players and draft picks are going to be
Speaker 1: the twenty eight ninth thirtieth pick in the draft. Well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get three starters right away. Caris LeVert is
Speaker 1: a good player. Spencer Dinwiddie is a good player. Jackson
Speaker 1: Allen is a good man. I mean he's a serviceable,
Speaker 1: high energy big man. This reminds me there was a
Speaker 1: great trade years ago where I think Phoenix quired Charles
Speaker 1: Barkley and they sent three starters like Tim las till Lay,
Speaker 1: Tim Perry and look at the depth that the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: seventy six ers have now get him into Barkley. How'd
Speaker 1: that work out? Purpose Well, you also know that you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to You're gonna lose him at some point. Now,
Speaker 1: what do you get in return? I think I would
Speaker 1: hold on to Harden. I'd just say, all right, you
Speaker 1: want him, you gotta really blow us away here. But
Speaker 1: if I'm getting three guys who were going to start,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get some draft picks here, I free
Speaker 1: up some cap space here as well. I don't If
Speaker 1: I get rid of Harden, then I might as well
Speaker 1: get rid of Russell Westbrook. And the fact that the
Speaker 1: Hornets Michael Jordan wants Russell Westbrook. If I'm Houston, I'm like,
Speaker 1: we'll drive him down. We'll hand deliver him down there
Speaker 1: to the Hornets. If Mike wants him, you can have him. Yes, McLevin,
Speaker 1: there's a report the Sixers don't want to give up
Speaker 1: Simmons for Harden. It kind of makes sense, just an age, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it. But but if I'm making the move,
Speaker 1: if and now all that I think this came out,
Speaker 1: and the timing of this came out, probably from Harden's side,
Speaker 1: is let's see or houston side, let's see if we
Speaker 1: can get somebody else interested here, because you if you
Speaker 1: got two takers for Harden, now we can make the
Speaker 1: deal even more enticing. But if I'm the seventy Sixers,
Speaker 1: I would still look at James Harden and pair him
Speaker 1: with Ben Simmons because people, I think, look at this
Speaker 1: and go Ben Simmons, he doesn't play that style. Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons is the perfect teammate. He doesn't have to have
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to shoot, and Joe l Embiide wants
Speaker 1: to shoot. He wants to average thirty points a game.
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons will do all the dirty work for him.
Speaker 1: But I go back to this was a story about
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, and Steph Curry was telling people at the
Speaker 1: All Star Game a couple of years ago that if
Speaker 1: Harden wants to be able to play that team ball like,
Speaker 1: he'd love to be in a style, in a system
Speaker 1: that has that, that embraces that incorporates that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you could create that in Brooklyn, but Durant
Speaker 1: was part of that, and there's part of James Harden.
Speaker 1: That and James Harden when he first started out as
Speaker 1: sixth man in Oklahoma City, was a great off the
Speaker 1: ball offensive player. He didn't have to have it, but
Speaker 1: when he got it, he made Jupey. I don't know
Speaker 1: what legacy means to him. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: cares about this, but it feels like I'm thirty one.
Speaker 1: I want to play with these guys. Maybe we have
Speaker 1: some fun and win a championship here Durant. Durant wants
Speaker 1: to be, you know, the greatest player of all time.
Speaker 1: Like then his mind, legacy is really important. I don't
Speaker 1: know about Kyrie, but it is fascinating that Steve Nash
Speaker 1: is just going in there as the head coach. Yes,
Speaker 1: Kyrie feels more like he would be. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: legacy is just a construct of other people's mind. Why
Speaker 1: would I limit myself to put myself in the box
Speaker 1: of other people's minds when I can just live in
Speaker 1: the stars. Yeah, and by the way, the Earth's flat. Yes, McLevin,
Speaker 1: that's all good until you tweak your mcl I just
Speaker 1: worry poll question or then that's a favorite if they
Speaker 1: get those three favorite to win it all. Yes, let
Speaker 1: me see what happens the rest of you know, the
Speaker 1: offseason here, you know, who are the Lakers getting. Nobody's
Speaker 1: talking about Golden State. I find it. I find it fascinating.
Speaker 1: Or the Miami Heat. Now they haven't done anything. I
Speaker 1: think what Milwaukee did yesterday, they got better. I'm not
Speaker 1: a big Eric Bledsoe fan. I think that they got better.
Speaker 1: Drew Holliday is a good player, two way player for them. Bogdanovich,
Speaker 1: you know, it feels like they're doing some things, and
Speaker 1: I think that it's enough for Yannis to sign that
Speaker 1: Max deal and stay there. I think that's what they're
Speaker 1: trying to do. It may be something that's not necessarily
Speaker 1: for now, but it's for the next couple of years
Speaker 1: that Yannis sees that we have a chance to win. Now,
Speaker 1: I Brooklyn gets James Harden, Yannis Mago, I don't have
Speaker 1: a chance to win here. Why would I stay here?
Speaker 1: But I think he's going to sign that Max steel
Speaker 1: and stay in Milwaukee. Yees see Eric Bledsow, George Hill
Speaker 1: and three first round picks. Yeah, yeah, that's I mean
Speaker 1: that's ultimately five first round picks. Yeah, that's steep, steep.
Speaker 1: But George Hill and Bledsoe won't stay in New Orleans now.
Speaker 1: They've got too many point cards. I mean, it's still
Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball's team as a point card. Yes, m club. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When you say Drew Holiday and one of the Bogdanovitch
Speaker 1: is it just feels like they're adding like more pieces around,
Speaker 1: but not the right like they need a real number
Speaker 1: two or well Middleton is a number two. It's not
Speaker 1: a solid number two that you would have on other teams,
Speaker 1: but you might have maybe a guy who's not a
Speaker 1: solid number two, but you would have solid threes and
Speaker 1: fours as well. And I think that's what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do. Holiday in Bogdanovitch, to go with Middleton, to
Speaker 1: go with Jannis. You know, it's it's a good team,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's a good postseason team.
Speaker 1: There's you know, the Rockets who are a great regular season.
Speaker 1: There are certain teams that are great regular season teams,
Speaker 1: get them in a postseason and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they start to fold in a seven game series.
Speaker 1: We've seen that with Milwaukee now back to back years.
Speaker 1: You can lead the league and wins. Can you win
Speaker 1: when you need to win in the postseason? Do you
Speaker 1: have that style? And it was so simplistic for Miami.
Speaker 1: What did Miami do? They basically said to the Greek freak,
Speaker 1: we're going to set up a wall and you're not
Speaker 1: going to be able to do those coast to coast
Speaker 1: or drive whenever you want to. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Milwaukee goes, hey, wait a minute, what's going
Speaker 1: on here, we're not playing the way we normally do,
Speaker 1: and Miami dusted them off. Yeah, Paul, One thing I'm
Speaker 1: fascinated about it. If you're the GM and the president
Speaker 1: and the ownership of Milwaukee Bucks, do you have a
Speaker 1: conversation with Jannis and his agent before you make this
Speaker 1: monster Yes? Well, but does the conversations Is it like, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're about to make this monstrous trade. Will your client
Speaker 1: be part of this team for the next seven years
Speaker 1: if we make this monstrous trade? And how can you
Speaker 1: trust the answer? And how can you get an answer?
Speaker 1: Because if I'm an agent keeping my options open, if
Speaker 1: I'm honest, I'm keeping options open. But you're making this
Speaker 1: trade based on him being there, which is very awkward.
Speaker 1: I have to include him. If I don't include him,
Speaker 1: that's worse. But I would want the inclusion to get
Speaker 1: work both ways. Well, no, he's not. He has no
Speaker 1: reason to say, Hey, if you do this, I'm signing.
Speaker 1: I think that he for him to sign off on
Speaker 1: that Max deal, he has to approve the roster moves.
Speaker 1: I would if I'm in his position and you want
Speaker 1: me to stay. Hey, we're thinking of bringing in this
Speaker 1: guy and this guy you know he might be best
Speaker 1: friends with Eric Bledsoe or Dante de Vincenzo who got
Speaker 1: traded as well. You just want to make sure that
Speaker 1: you don't upset him. And you say, we're surrounding you
Speaker 1: with people that we think will make us stronger. But
Speaker 1: I would absolutely do a drive by with him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It'd be like us having five year contracts presented to
Speaker 1: us and you are a free agent and we ask you, well,
Speaker 1: you're going to sign a five year contractor yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: why not? Probably? And then I sally. You know Randy
Speaker 1: Scott's hosted this show on a Monday. Yeah, you're working
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Speaker 1: the draft. Is anybody truly a franchise player in this draft,
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk to him about the NCAA Tournament.
Speaker 1: To bubble eze the NCAA Tournament and if you're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. The final four was going to be in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: and if you've been to Indianapolis, you know they did
Speaker 1: a wonderful job with the Super Bowl. You have arenas
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Speaker 1: other arenas around that you needed, you could do that
Speaker 1: as well. But we'll talk to Jay Billis. He'll join us.
Speaker 1: Coming up. Mcloven will have a poll question for us.
Speaker 1: We hope to hear from Kirk Cousins a little bit
Speaker 1: later on as well. Pat Forty, the great college football writer,
Speaker 1: on the college coaches who don't get a mulligan based
Speaker 1: off what's happened with COVID, and there's some big names
Speaker 1: on that list that don't get a mulligan. Yes, Polly,
Speaker 1: by the way I saw some details on the buy
Speaker 1: out for Will must Champ at South Carolina. Yea three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a month for fifty months. I'm no
Speaker 1: math major, but I think that's about three point two
Speaker 1: million a year for four years. So well, good gig. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: the NBA Draft coming up tomorrow night. I also wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to him about the possibility of bubble izing
Speaker 1: the entire NCAA tournament in Indianapolis, and Jay joins us. Now, Jay,
Speaker 1: let me start with the draft coming up here. Is
Speaker 1: there that true franchise driven player talent wise that you
Speaker 1: can go, we can lock in on that guy and
Speaker 1: we can build around. Probably not. There are a couple
Speaker 1: players that I think may fit that description. One is
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards of Georgia. Although he's not yet a finished product.
Speaker 1: His decision making and defense need to improve. But the
Speaker 1: others James Wiseman at Memphis who only played three games
Speaker 1: this year before he got in that you know sort
Speaker 1: of NC double a issue and then wound up saying
Speaker 1: I've just had enough of this. He was supposed to
Speaker 1: sit out like twelve games. After playing the first three,
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not doing this anymore and just walked.
Speaker 1: So we didn't get a chance to see him. But
Speaker 1: he's still Chris. He's got Chris Bosh type ability, except
Speaker 1: he's bigger, seven one and seven six wingspan, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But they're outside of that, Dan, They're a bunch of
Speaker 1: really good players and guys it'll be starters in the
Speaker 1: league and maybe better. But there's no there aren't any
Speaker 1: no brainer picks like we've had in past drafts. I'd
Speaker 1: be fallen in love with somebody. I mean, there are
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys I really like, UM like, I
Speaker 1: really like Tyrese Halibert and Abayowa State. I really like
Speaker 1: Isaac Accoro of Auburn, m you know, guys like that
Speaker 1: on Yaka kong Wu of USC I like a lot,
Speaker 1: but there's nobody like you were asking. I think initially,
Speaker 1: you know, is there anybody there's nobody like Lebron or
Speaker 1: Kyrie or something them. Where do you go? Okay, he's
Speaker 1: the number one pick, for sure, will be an All Star,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But there will be players that
Speaker 1: come out. I'm positive there'll be players that come out
Speaker 1: of this draft that'll be like Draymond Green or you know,
Speaker 1: you name it. I mean a bunch of players that
Speaker 1: have been taken further down in the draft that have
Speaker 1: turned out to be great, whether it's Clay Thompson. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're a whole bunch. We could we could go down
Speaker 1: to name a fifteenth pick that we were probably saying
Speaker 1: at the time, well, you know, could be a starter
Speaker 1: and maybe better. But we weren't. We weren't sure the
Speaker 1: reaction to LaMelo Ball. If he's not LaMelo Ball and
Speaker 1: he's just another name, do we have a different reaction
Speaker 1: to him this high in the draft? Uh? Maybe, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, he drags in some of the stuff with
Speaker 1: his dad a little bit. Uh, you know, a little
Speaker 1: bit of baggage there for some people. But my thing
Speaker 1: with him, Dan is he's ultra talented as a ball
Speaker 1: handler passer. Um, you know, he's got positional size and
Speaker 1: length and all that, but he didn't guard anybody and
Speaker 1: he doesn't shoot it, and those are kind of big deals.
Speaker 1: And he hasn't finished a season in a long time either,
Speaker 1: so he's not had a normal sort of existence for
Speaker 1: a player that does. That's not a bad thing, it's
Speaker 1: just it's just a data point. Um. But he's one
Speaker 1: of those guys that you're going, hey, it could be
Speaker 1: could be really good and then but could be less
Speaker 1: than that. Um. Like, I don't think he's gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: get into the league and not not be a good player.
Speaker 1: But but I think if you're gonna go one, two
Speaker 1: or three, you have some pretty high expectations. How did
Speaker 1: the ball boys not be able to shoot? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good question. I mean, you know, I know you're
Speaker 1: you've always been a great shooter, and um, but you
Speaker 1: know there are there are guys that can't can't shoot,
Speaker 1: and you know, Lonzo's guy. My thing has been, why
Speaker 1: can't somebody fix their mechanics to the point where, um,
Speaker 1: you know, like if the SHOT's not going in, then
Speaker 1: I think you got to you gotta fix the mechanics
Speaker 1: like Reggie Miller is like an example of you know,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have you wouldn't have taught Reggie to shoot
Speaker 1: that way. You know, the zelbo out and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's not classic form. Damn thing went in every time,
Speaker 1: so you're not gonna or Jamal Wilkes, like nobody would
Speaker 1: have told Jamal Wilkes like you need to wrap it
Speaker 1: around your head before you shoot it. But it went
Speaker 1: in every time, so you're not messing with that. But
Speaker 1: if it doesn't go in, I think you have to
Speaker 1: mess with it. And for those guys, ball doesn't go
Speaker 1: in enough. And actually Lonzo was a better shooter than LaMelo.
Speaker 1: LaMelo's got a lower release and doesn't go in near
Speaker 1: the rate that Lonzo's went in. But you got li Angelo,
Speaker 1: the other ball brother, who all he does is shoot.
Speaker 1: He is a great shot. He has you know, great
Speaker 1: range there. It's just kind of baffling that, you know,
Speaker 1: the dad who was there when Nay Smith, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: put up the basket the peach basket, didn't teach his
Speaker 1: kids how to shoot, you know, just a normal jump shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not just on him. I think it's on the
Speaker 1: game I don't know, like it's almost like it's almost
Speaker 1: like shooting was like the golf swing used to be
Speaker 1: years ago, where he didn't mess with it. You know
Speaker 1: that it was something that you left alone and just
Speaker 1: more repetition and I'll get better, But I do think
Speaker 1: there's a mechanics thing to it, but especially if it
Speaker 1: doesn't go in. I mean, the best shooting coach I've
Speaker 1: ever been around is Chip England, who happened to be
Speaker 1: a teammate of mine that duke my freshman year. He
Speaker 1: was a senior and just got a great way about
Speaker 1: him of teaching teaching shooting. But there aren't a lot
Speaker 1: of guys that feel comfortable out there teaching it, and
Speaker 1: that that's unfortunate, especially the lower levels. Minnesota's got the
Speaker 1: number one. Does Minnesota keep the number one pick? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, there's gonna be seems like there's
Speaker 1: going to be more trade activity in this draft, but
Speaker 1: you know, you've been through this drill more than me.
Speaker 1: You know, you always hear about how many trades they're
Speaker 1: going to be, and then there there aren't a ton
Speaker 1: on Draft Ay and other other years you don't hear
Speaker 1: as much and there are a bunch of trades, so
Speaker 1: h you know, look, unless you're in love with somebody,
Speaker 1: it makes sense to trade back. But it's it's only
Speaker 1: if you can get who you want, and then what
Speaker 1: are you going to get in exchange for the pick?
Speaker 1: My sense is in this year's draft, if you've got
Speaker 1: the number one pick, you you you use it and
Speaker 1: if like you know, I don't know if they if
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves like um Anthony Edwards or James Wise, mer
Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball, whatever it is, but it seems like that
Speaker 1: there's a consensus that those are the top three picks.
Speaker 1: What order they going, We'll see, But I think I
Speaker 1: think Edwards is the best overall prospect. With his skill level,
Speaker 1: his body, his athleticism, he has the chance to be
Speaker 1: the best player. Doesn't mean he will be, but he
Speaker 1: has the chance to be. Yeah. I saw an interview
Speaker 1: with him yesterday on ESPN, and I really just he
Speaker 1: sounded mature, He sounded like he was ready for this,
Speaker 1: this big move. We're talking to Jay Billis, ESPN college
Speaker 1: basketball analyst. What did you make of the possible ability
Speaker 1: of bubbleizing March Madness in Indianapolis? Smart move. I think
Speaker 1: it's the only way in the current climate that we're
Speaker 1: facing that we're going to get an NCAA tournament in
Speaker 1: you know you have if you're going to try to
Speaker 1: get a tournament thirteen different venues from the first four
Speaker 1: to the first round, to the Elite eight to the
Speaker 1: final four in Indianapolis, it's not going to work. And
Speaker 1: I think Danny Gavitt and the tournament committee realized that
Speaker 1: and they decided to make the adjustment now so they
Speaker 1: didn't have to make it later. And it's a smart move.
Speaker 1: And look, I think a lot of people might feel
Speaker 1: like I would jump all over this and say, see
Speaker 1: their pros, this is not the time for that. They're
Speaker 1: pros anyway, so it doesn't matter whether they play in
Speaker 1: bubbles or not. But you'll remember at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the pandemic, when we were talking about all this stuff
Speaker 1: that you had a lot of administrators saying, hey, no
Speaker 1: students on campus, no college sports. Well, they backed off
Speaker 1: that in a hurry, and then they were saying, well,
Speaker 1: we can't have bubbles. These are amateurs. They backed off
Speaker 1: that in hurry. We're going to start the season in
Speaker 1: a bubble at the Mohegan Sun. We're going to end
Speaker 1: it in as close to a bubble as you can
Speaker 1: get in Indianapolis with the at least I think it'll
Speaker 1: be in Indiapolis. That's the initial indication for the NC
Speaker 1: Double A Tournament. It's just smart business, like basketball needs
Speaker 1: to have a season this year. It's really kind of
Speaker 1: an existential issue for the NC DOABLEA. That's the only
Speaker 1: revenue they have is the ncable A Tournament. If there's
Speaker 1: not a tournament, the NC Double A is in trouble
Speaker 1: after this season. If we have a tournament, I think
Speaker 1: we get through this and everything's fine. If we don't,
Speaker 1: two years of no revenue and there's a real existential problem.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad they're doing it this way, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad we're moving toward it. And oddly enough, Dan, right now,
Speaker 1: the students going home on almost every campus across the
Speaker 1: country going home like this week, next week, whatever it
Speaker 1: is for Thanksgiving, and they're not coming back. That's the
Speaker 1: best chance we have to get a basketball season in
Speaker 1: because the teams are going to be essentially isolated and
Speaker 1: quarantined on their own campus with no other students, And
Speaker 1: that's the best chance we have. Yeah, I wondered if
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve would have waited till Thanksgiving to start
Speaker 1: their football season with everybody gone. And then you try
Speaker 1: to do it like that or the Big Ten. You know,
Speaker 1: you want to be in the Final four, you want
Speaker 1: to go to a bowl game, but you do want
Speaker 1: to get this season in Pac twelve, probably not going
Speaker 1: to get their season in the Big Ten. Stumbled a
Speaker 1: little bit here, but I do agree with you. Once
Speaker 1: the students go home, you're basically bubble izing your basketball
Speaker 1: team as well. Let me go back to what you
Speaker 1: said about the NCAA. If they don't have March Madness
Speaker 1: over a two year period, what do you think happens
Speaker 1: to the NCAA. Well, it's going to be I think
Speaker 1: there will be a lot of change. I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't have money. It's going to be hard to operate
Speaker 1: on the same level, and hard to keep employees and
Speaker 1: all that other stuff. And I think they just lose
Speaker 1: their grip and college basketball gets to finished. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's any question about that. Now. Is it going
Speaker 1: to go It's not going to go away. But without
Speaker 1: the revenue, I mean, there are going to be so
Speaker 1: many things, so many dominoes that fall in a negative direction.
Speaker 1: I think it gets diminished. And look, I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be diminished going forward a little bit anyway,
Speaker 1: But I think it's I think there's going to be
Speaker 1: a loosening of the grip on college sports and the
Speaker 1: conferences start taking over and we see some changes that
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have anticipated otherwise. Yeah, I still think that
Speaker 1: the Power five it's just going to grab college football.
Speaker 1: They own, they own college football. NC Double A doesn't,
Speaker 1: and you just seceed from the union. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you see the Power five conferences in college basketball
Speaker 1: doing the same. We do love the underdog, We embrace
Speaker 1: the underdog. The underdog gets a chance. In college football,
Speaker 1: the underdog does not. Yeah, I think there's still a
Speaker 1: reluctance to go away from the current NC Double A
Speaker 1: tournament model. That's a big part of keeping everything together.
Speaker 1: And look, there are a lot of the old timers
Speaker 1: like us frankly, but but guys, we know from back
Speaker 1: in the day that when in nineteen eighty four, when
Speaker 1: there was the Supreme Court case, you know, Oklahoma Border
Speaker 1: Region's case that took basically took football away from the
Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA. The NAA used to tell in their infinite
Speaker 1: Wisdom used to tell schools how often they could be
Speaker 1: on television because they thought that they were protecting the gate,
Speaker 1: like the number of spectators that would come to a game.
Speaker 1: They thought that's where all the money was. They didn't
Speaker 1: realize that the money is in television. So, you know,
Speaker 1: that's when the CFA started the College Football Association and
Speaker 1: started negotiating TV contracts and all that. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of people that thought it would have been better
Speaker 1: if if they took football and basketball away from the
Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA and we wouldn't have all the ridiculous issues
Speaker 1: that we have now. I don't know that I agree
Speaker 1: with that, but but there's a real reluctance to take basketball,
Speaker 1: to take the tournament and mess with it because of
Speaker 1: what you mentioned, sort of the you know, the Cinderella
Speaker 1: aspect of it. I think if they took the tournament,
Speaker 1: the Power five just took the tournament and started their
Speaker 1: own tournament. They just started their own tournament. They can
Speaker 1: invite whoever they wanted, But we're going to get to
Speaker 1: a point where the Power five's only going to play
Speaker 1: each other. They're only going to play each other in football,
Speaker 1: and someday they're only going to play each other in basketball,
Speaker 1: because the fans have spoken they don't want to watch
Speaker 1: these early season you know, home game versus directional school stuff.
Speaker 1: They don't go to the games, they don't watch them
Speaker 1: on TV like they used to. They're not consuming them
Speaker 1: the same way they want to watch big shots against
Speaker 1: big shots. And then we'll leave the Cinderella stuff for
Speaker 1: the tournament at the end. Would you want Mark Emirate's
Speaker 1: job as the head of the NCAA. I get asked
Speaker 1: that a lot because I'm so critical of the NC
Speaker 1: double A at times, not all the time. When they
Speaker 1: do a good job, I say so, but and I
Speaker 1: joke about it. But I've served on nc double A
Speaker 1: committees in the past, both when I was in college
Speaker 1: and now. I've always said that I'll help. If there's
Speaker 1: ever a chance I can really help, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: But the one thing I know is because of my
Speaker 1: views on amateurism, I don't have to worry about ever
Speaker 1: being asked to do anything by the inside of the way,
Speaker 1: like even even the stuff they're doing now with name
Speaker 1: image and like this, like there's such ridiculous baby steps.
Speaker 1: You're gonna come on, man, let's just do this I mean,
Speaker 1: why are we taking baby steps on this stuff? It's over.
Speaker 1: You know, you have admitted that they're pros by just
Speaker 1: approaching the subject of name, image and like this, let's
Speaker 1: go and get it over with and they won't pull
Speaker 1: the band aid off and just do it. Were you
Speaker 1: a student athlete at Duke or an athletic student at Duke?
Speaker 1: I was neither, Like I look at it. Here's the
Speaker 1: way I look at it. When I was playing, I
Speaker 1: was a player, and when I was in class I
Speaker 1: was a student. And I don't I don't think there's
Speaker 1: anything wrong with that. We don't. We don't ask anybody
Speaker 1: else what their priorities are. You know, there's no other
Speaker 1: student that you go, okay, now, is academics your first priority?
Speaker 1: Or are you here for being a musician or are
Speaker 1: you spending more time in the Greek system or like
Speaker 1: what are your priorities? You know? It's kind of like saying,
Speaker 1: are you a broadcaster? Husband and father? Are you a
Speaker 1: husband and father broadcaster? Like what's more important to you? Dan?
Speaker 1: Like these are questions that we only ask of athletes.
Speaker 1: I'm a broadcaster first, Jay, what's that? I'm a broadcaster first? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: a nominated broadcaster. Yes, not don't win, but we get nominated. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld had a great, great quote about that and
Speaker 1: comedians in cars getting coffee. He said, like, apparently Seinfeld,
Speaker 1: the number one show didn't win any Emmy's as a show,
Speaker 1: or maybe only one one over that run that they had.
Speaker 1: And his thing was, who cares he goes? He goes
Speaker 1: the job as the award. And I was like, that's
Speaker 1: pretty damn cool. I should have thought of that, the
Speaker 1: job as the award. No, it's not. The job is
Speaker 1: the job. The award is the award. But but you know,
Speaker 1: you have to give yourself some credit, and I give
Speaker 1: myself a lot of credit acting like when somebody else
Speaker 1: wins and we're clapping, acting like we're legitimately happy for
Speaker 1: the winner. There is an art to that, kay, because
Speaker 1: every year when Bob cost Us would win, I had
Speaker 1: to act like, um, I'm a little surprised, but not
Speaker 1: that surprised. You know, you go oh oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you know that somebody's watching you. And then I
Speaker 1: used to start clapping when they were opening the envelope,
Speaker 1: like I just wanted to get ahead of this that Hey,
Speaker 1: ad Dan Patrick's a team. Yeah, Bob cost is one
Speaker 1: of other damn whatever sports jamming. Yeah, it's it's an art.
Speaker 1: That's an art. It's acting is what that is. Jay,
Speaker 1: And that should be an award to the best performance
Speaker 1: by a looser. And the winner is once again, Dan Patrick.
Speaker 1: Have fun tomorrow night, there, Jay, great to talk to
Speaker 1: you is always thank you for your insights. It's never
Speaker 1: as much fun without you. There. Oh, I know, but
Speaker 1: I'm not coming back to the mothership Jay. Well, I
Speaker 1: could come to you. Oh whoa, let me see who
Speaker 1: do I I'd have to get rid of. This would
Speaker 1: be like a James Harden situation. I'd have to get
Speaker 1: rid of probably three dan Ets. Oh I'm worth more
Speaker 1: than three dant Thank you, Jay, Good luck tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's j billis ESPN College Basketball Analys. Be
Speaker 1: sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick
Speaker 1: Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. He's Pat
Speaker 1: forty Sports Illustrated writer covers college basketball. In college football,
Speaker 1: where do we stand with the SEC? This weekend, pen
Speaker 1: Well one game down Texas A and M is not playing,
Speaker 1: which becomes increasingly problematic for them if they hopefully they
Speaker 1: can reschedule because they're a playoff contender and this would
Speaker 1: be two games that they haven't played so far, maybe
Speaker 1: they can get them both in. Everywhere else is kind
Speaker 1: of like hold your breath and see. You know, usually Dan,
Speaker 1: if you have a one week problem, it's a two
Speaker 1: week problem. So we'll see if any of these other
Speaker 1: games are going to get canceled after four of them
Speaker 1: last week. But you know, so far that's the only
Speaker 1: one that's been announced, and how many games we see
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten and that if you missed two games,
Speaker 1: then you're not going to be able to qualify for
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship, I believe. But you know, the
Speaker 1: SEC built in a little bit of breathing space. But
Speaker 1: you know, how much breathing space do you have before
Speaker 1: a game actually gets canceled not postponed. Yeah, we're running
Speaker 1: out of it for sure. There's going to be some
Speaker 1: teams that probably will not play the full complement of games.
Speaker 1: What they've been looking at with some of them is
Speaker 1: trying to schedule them on December nineteenth, which is the
Speaker 1: date of the SEC Championship. But they you know, if
Speaker 1: you're not playing in that you could still play a
Speaker 1: game like for now, I think they are looking at
Speaker 1: Georgia at Missouri on December nineteenth, in a game that, boy,
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs should just be rife with motivation for because
Speaker 1: they'd be out of championship contention, out of playoff contention,
Speaker 1: and get to go play in the coldest town in
Speaker 1: the SEC in a game that doesn't matter at all.
Speaker 1: Are we headed for Florida Alabama SEC title game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's almost inevitable at this point. Like Florida,
Speaker 1: both teams would really have to screw it up. They
Speaker 1: would They'd have to lose twice, most likely because you know,
Speaker 1: they won the head to head against their their closest
Speaker 1: pursuer Alabama blue out Texas at AM Florida blue out Georgia,
Speaker 1: so they would have to lose twice. So yeah, we're
Speaker 1: looking at that, and basically I think that's winner gets
Speaker 1: into the playoff and possibly even loser gets in if Florida.
Speaker 1: If Alabama's undefeated, Florida has what loss in Florida wins,
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance they both go. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if the high comes down to Florida Alabama
Speaker 1: for the SEC title with Kyle Trask and Mac Jones.
Speaker 1: That could it hinge on that. It's entirely possible. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll see where things stand with the rest of the country,
Speaker 1: where Trevor Lawrence is, where Justin Fields is, and even
Speaker 1: more Zach Wilson from BYU is. But yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be that game figures to be a crazy shootout. If
Speaker 1: it's Alabama Florida, you know that that's not going to
Speaker 1: be Pat Dye against Bear Bryant, SEC. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: like forty nine to forty two. So that would be
Speaker 1: a big showcase game for those two quarterbacks. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm overstating this, but you know, Jeans Chiswick
Speaker 1: got that one year honeymoon in Auburn when he won
Speaker 1: a national title. Is ed Orgeron in that one year
Speaker 1: honeymoon period. Is he on a warm seat at all
Speaker 1: at LSU. Well, there's there's definitely some similarities there in
Speaker 1: terms of like the precipitous drop off. I think he
Speaker 1: has recruited too well to for this to be a
Speaker 1: long term situation. You know, they should bounce back, but
Speaker 1: they are really bad this year and they've got a
Speaker 1: lot of other stuff going on there. Obviously, they've they've
Speaker 1: got an NCUBA investigation that includes football, not necessarily for
Speaker 1: anything that happened while the Orgeron was the head coach,
Speaker 1: but they've got that. And then you know, the USA
Speaker 1: Today report this week was very disturbing about the number
Speaker 1: of you know, alleged sexual assaults and other incidents regarding
Speaker 1: women there that some of which in ball football players.
Speaker 1: So things are definitely not trending the right direction for
Speaker 1: at Orgeron. Laughter the year when every single thing went right.
Speaker 1: He's Pat forty Sports Illustrated writer covering college basketball college football,
Speaker 1: had a column yesterday where you're not giving mulligans to
Speaker 1: some of these coaches based off what's going on with COVID.
Speaker 1: Run down the list of those coaches who don't get mulligans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously Will must Champshire didn't. He's out, And even if
Speaker 1: it's going to cost South Carolina thirteen million dollars for
Speaker 1: him to leave, Jim Harbaugh is not getting a mulligan. Now.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna get fired? No, but you know, are
Speaker 1: the chances very strong that he and Michigan both just
Speaker 1: look at each other and say, yeah, we tried, but
Speaker 1: it's time to move on. Yeah, I think that's that's
Speaker 1: likely to happen. James Franklin does get a mulligan. We'll
Speaker 1: see about Clay Helton at USC, right. I mean they're
Speaker 1: two and oh, but they're the luckiest two and oh
Speaker 1: in the country, so I don't know, you know, what
Speaker 1: his chances are there. I'm trying to think who else
Speaker 1: I had on the list here. But you know, obviously
Speaker 1: the mulligan aspect comes into play because to do people
Speaker 1: want to pony up that kind of money when they're
Speaker 1: losing that much money, and so some coaches have gotten,
Speaker 1: you know, a pass. I think on having bad seasons
Speaker 1: this year. If Indiana beats Ohio State this weekend, what
Speaker 1: level of upset is that. I think it's pretty dark major.
Speaker 1: And that's not to say the Indiana isn't good. I
Speaker 1: mean they are. They're four now and they're legit. This
Speaker 1: is their defense is playing better than anytime in the
Speaker 1: twenty first century. Michael Pennox is a great quarterback, their
Speaker 1: receivers are outstanding. But still across the board, they don't
Speaker 1: have Ohio States talent, they don't have Ohio States experience.
Speaker 1: In these situations, there's just nothing from a you know,
Speaker 1: thirty five thousand foot view, there's no reason for Indiana
Speaker 1: football to walk into Columbus and beat Ohio State. So
Speaker 1: it would be it would be a major upset. It
Speaker 1: would be a complete upheaval of Big ten hierarchy and orthodoxy.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll happen, but they can stay in
Speaker 1: the game with him. Yeah, Vegas has him twenty one
Speaker 1: point underdogs. We'll talk to Indiana's head coach on the
Speaker 1: program tomorrow. NCAA looking into bubble izing the entire march
Speaker 1: madness in Indianapolis. Your initial thoughts, I like it. I
Speaker 1: think it's a good idea. I think it's a good solution.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a great national tournament coast to coast,
Speaker 1: but let's be real about the circumstances here. And I
Speaker 1: think if you if you feel like this is the
Speaker 1: best way to get the tournament done, you do it.
Speaker 1: And India is the perfect place for it. I mean
Speaker 1: it's not only NCUBA headquarters, but it's a basketball city.
Speaker 1: It's a really centralized downtown. It's they've got tons of
Speaker 1: venues to use, whether it's high school gyms, I've got
Speaker 1: you know, most of the biggest high school gyms in
Speaker 1: the country, or whether you expand a little bit and
Speaker 1: go down to Assembly Hall or over to Mackey Arena.
Speaker 1: You know, depending how big they're radius, they want for this.
Speaker 1: But you know, the bigger issue for the NC Double
Speaker 1: is just getting there, getting the seasons started. It's difficult
Speaker 1: having some of these events has been proven to be
Speaker 1: really complicated and arduous, and so we'll see how many
Speaker 1: games they could even get in getting this thing off
Speaker 1: the ground before we get to having a tournament at
Speaker 1: the end. Well, I think that these schools are going
Speaker 1: to be helped out once Thanksgiving roles around and all
Speaker 1: the students leave campus and then basically you're bubbleizing basketball
Speaker 1: team on campus. I think that that will help. The
Speaker 1: question is when you travel, you know, are you going
Speaker 1: into a campus where nobody is on campus there or
Speaker 1: how are you able to schedule these games? But I
Speaker 1: think keeping your team safe will be a whole lot
Speaker 1: easier in the next week or so, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: If you if you talk to coaches, either football or basketball,
Speaker 1: they're like, please just let us get to this point.
Speaker 1: Where as weird as it sounds, please let us have
Speaker 1: a deserted campus with just our our athletes here, you know,
Speaker 1: and get all these regular students out of college. But
Speaker 1: that's what they all want for that very reason. To
Speaker 1: socializing ends the you know, the parties are reduced and
Speaker 1: you're not traveling into other places where you're going into
Speaker 1: a forty thousand student campus. Safe travels, Pad. As always,
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time. Thanks for joining us. Hey, my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Dan. That's Pad forty sports illustrated writer covering
Speaker 1: college basketball and football. Thanks for listening to The Dan
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Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Kirk d Cousins the Vikings quarterback last
Speaker 1: night through for two hundred ninety two yards, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one interception. By the way, that that interception should not count, Kirk,
Speaker 1: because that's not your fault. We want to come up
Speaker 1: with a new stat. Okay, and Paula, you want to
Speaker 1: give Kirk the stat? Yeah, a new stat to protect quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: It's called RCI Receiver complete you know, caused the interception RCI.
Speaker 1: What do you think, RCI? And because that's not your
Speaker 1: fault for that interception? Yeah, you know, you just hope
Speaker 1: that people have a trained eye and understand that as
Speaker 1: they evaluate, and usually the people inside the league do,
Speaker 1: but outside the league not so much. But that's okay.
Speaker 1: Will you endorse our CI if we come up with
Speaker 1: a new stat for quarterbacks receiver caused interception, I will
Speaker 1: throw my full weight backing behind it. Yeah. What time
Speaker 1: did you get home last night? I got to my
Speaker 1: house at three am and I probably fell asleep about
Speaker 1: three fifteen three thirty. Have you seen the kids central time?
Speaker 1: Have you seen the kids this morning? Uh? No, they
Speaker 1: headed off to run some errands with with mom, and
Speaker 1: uh I slept in until about an hour ago and
Speaker 1: then got up and wanted to join you. Well, what happens,
Speaker 1: you know, when do you get interrogated by the family
Speaker 1: on after a game? Uh? That's a good question. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of text messages last night late. I
Speaker 1: try to respond to as many as I can and
Speaker 1: then um, uh, you know, my wife when I get home,
Speaker 1: she wakes up and she wants to talk about the game,
Speaker 1: and then uh, you know, I'll probably get a few today,
Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, the interrogation usually happens right away. How
Speaker 1: do you explain this that you don't win on Monday night?
Speaker 1: You haven't won on Monday night? You know it is
Speaker 1: it is statistically just a kind of a unique thing
Speaker 1: because you look back and and uh, you know, I've
Speaker 1: played well in a lot of those games. Um, but
Speaker 1: you know, for whatever reason, we just didn't get to
Speaker 1: win in nine of them, nine straight. So great to
Speaker 1: get to win last night. But you know the nature
Speaker 1: of miny night football and a lot of primetime games
Speaker 1: as you're playing really good football teams. You know, a
Speaker 1: few of those years we were playing teams that either
Speaker 1: ended up in the Super Bowl or won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So you know, going into those games, it's not like
Speaker 1: we were favored to win or win in a blowout,
Speaker 1: and so it was just good to get that one
Speaker 1: last night, for sure. What is the development with Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook that he's sort of taken that next step into
Speaker 1: greatness not a good running back, a great running back. Well,
Speaker 1: I think first of all, he's got a lot of ability.
Speaker 1: I mean, he back in twenty seventeen as a rookie
Speaker 1: before he tore his knee. He was having an outstanding
Speaker 1: year and got off to a great start in eighteen,
Speaker 1: my first year with the Vikings, I think he missed
Speaker 1: like ten games and for the sixth that he was healthy,
Speaker 1: he was really special. And then, uh, you know last year,
Speaker 1: you know, because he stayed healthy all year, was finally
Speaker 1: recognized as an All Pro player this year, just the
Speaker 1: same way I think, you know, Rick Dennison, our old
Speaker 1: line coach, Gary Kubiaker offensive coordinator. I think they're doing
Speaker 1: a really good job, you know, with with how they
Speaker 1: designed the run game week in and week out to
Speaker 1: give him a great opportunity if you can invest in.
Speaker 1: They were stocks, Dalvin Cook or Justin Jefferson. Which stock
Speaker 1: would you invest in? Which one's a little cheaper right now?
Speaker 1: He is? Justin might be a penny stock that you
Speaker 1: can invest in right now. Dalvin's you know, he's like
Speaker 1: Apple or Google. Now Justin's the real deal as well. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's so great when you draft a first
Speaker 1: round pick, when you hit on it, you know, you
Speaker 1: never know, you know, you go through the league now
Speaker 1: nine years you know that after the draft you're kind
Speaker 1: of still suspicious of your first, second, third round pick,
Speaker 1: you say, let's just get to OTAs, let's actually see him,
Speaker 1: Let's see him in real ball in preseason games, and
Speaker 1: then we'll decide, you know, if, if, if they're worthy
Speaker 1: of that status. And Justin, uh, you know, certainly is
Speaker 1: shown he was worthy of that first round pick. And
Speaker 1: it makes a big difference for our offense. But why
Speaker 1: is it tougher for receivers? It feels like to be
Speaker 1: able to for them to established themselves where they can
Speaker 1: wash out. I mean, it's it's usually one or the other.
Speaker 1: But what is it about that position in the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's tricky to put your finger on because you you
Speaker 1: evaluate the college tape and and you know, you feel
Speaker 1: like you got the guy, and then you still don't
Speaker 1: quite know. I think in the NFL there's so much
Speaker 1: more man coverage. The defensive backs really, you know, are
Speaker 1: really clued into covering you like a glove. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, in college you may play a lot of
Speaker 1: zone and you know, until you get the NFL, it's
Speaker 1: hard to know if you can really defeat man coverage
Speaker 1: time and again. But um, you know, Justin's just a
Speaker 1: natural receiver. Tracking the football. Catching the football comes naturally
Speaker 1: to him, and he's been really, really good after the catch,
Speaker 1: So I've been thrilled with what he's been able to
Speaker 1: do for us, just as a rookie. It's a rookie
Speaker 1: allowed to tell you they're open in the huddle. Well,
Speaker 1: shame on me if I'm not asking, you know, for me,
Speaker 1: I always want to get feedback. So you know, I'm
Speaker 1: asking the old line, what snap count do you want here?
Speaker 1: Based on how you feel the D line is playing
Speaker 1: receivers tight ends? You know, what routes do you think
Speaker 1: can get you open? What technique are you being played with?
Speaker 1: Do you think you have this route? Do you think
Speaker 1: you have that route? Are you ready for a double move?
Speaker 1: And obviously the Adam Dealins and Justin Jefferson's of the
Speaker 1: world are always open and they're going to always tell
Speaker 1: you what you want to hear. But so you have
Speaker 1: to have a discerning gear. But yeah, I'm always asking,
Speaker 1: hopefully and if not, they'd better be telling me what
Speaker 1: they want and what they think they can do to
Speaker 1: help us explain the snap count because it feels like
Speaker 1: every snap count is the same count where the quarterback
Speaker 1: just like claps his hands or something. We're seeing this
Speaker 1: in college in the pros is there it used to be.
Speaker 1: Now Aaron Rodgers is pretty good at drawing you off,
Speaker 1: But I don't know how many other quarterbacks are you
Speaker 1: going at a different count? Yeah, it's a great question.
Speaker 1: We probably carry a half dozen snap counts a game,
Speaker 1: so whether that's going you know, really quickly, whether that's
Speaker 1: drawn it out, or anything in between, you know, and
Speaker 1: using code words, dummy counts, you know, ways to try
Speaker 1: to one moment, what I say is live, the next
Speaker 1: play what I say is dead. Just trying to keep
Speaker 1: a defense from being able to tee off and in
Speaker 1: their ears back. But yeah, the clap of the hand
Speaker 1: has been a really good technique that's really started in
Speaker 1: college and has made its way to the NFL. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great way because you can you
Speaker 1: can bring your hands together and not clap them and
Speaker 1: to the defense it looks like you are and so
Speaker 1: they have to show what they're gonna do. So it's
Speaker 1: a very effective way to snap the ball if you're
Speaker 1: in the shotgun. Lamar Jackson said recently that he was
Speaker 1: playing in a game where he went to the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and the defense was basically calling out what
Speaker 1: the play was going to be. How often does that happen?
Speaker 1: Where it happens? Yeah, certainly, certainly, Yeah, it happens. I
Speaker 1: mean you you know, the question is can they still
Speaker 1: stop it? You know there are times where the linebacker'll
Speaker 1: say they're running right here and it's third and two
Speaker 1: and you still get the first down. So uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the ball still has to be snapped and you still
Speaker 1: got to go make the tackle. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: teams watch film, they study all week long. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's our full time job. So they're going to guess
Speaker 1: right or have an idea, you know, and you just
Speaker 1: have to hope it's not every play. Do you have
Speaker 1: a tell? Have you been told you have a tell
Speaker 1: with certain you know like pitchers that they'll they'll have
Speaker 1: a tell and hitters right, we'll pick up something. But
Speaker 1: have you ever been told that, hey, you're given this
Speaker 1: away or you do this on running play or passing play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's another great question one that I'm kind of always asking,
Speaker 1: Like during training camp and we're practicing against our defense.
Speaker 1: You know, Coach Zimmer, our head coach, is a defensive
Speaker 1: you know, has a defensive background. So I'm always asking them, Hey,
Speaker 1: do I have a tell you know, is there anything
Speaker 1: in my snap count that's given away that the ball
Speaker 1: is not going to be snapped or is going to
Speaker 1: be snapped or anything with you know, my body language
Speaker 1: suggests run pass. So yeah, you're always asking, but I
Speaker 1: haven't gotten a lot of feedback of anything convincing that
Speaker 1: that tells that. Certainly, your opponent is not going to
Speaker 1: tell you if they find one. What is it like
Speaker 1: to go to the line of scrimmage now and you
Speaker 1: can actually hear the opposing team breathing. It's odd, it's
Speaker 1: the world we're living in twenty twenty. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm calling the play last night and I'm at times
Speaker 1: whispering in the huddle because I don't want to defense
Speaker 1: to hear. I mean, they're standing there five yards away
Speaker 1: just staring at me, and I'm always you know, maybe
Speaker 1: to a fault, but I'm you know, worried they're gonna
Speaker 1: read my lips. I'm worried they're gonna study who I'm
Speaker 1: talking to and say, oh, he's talking to the receiver
Speaker 1: so they're throwing the ball, or he's talking to the
Speaker 1: old line so they're running the ball. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to kind of play that game within
Speaker 1: the game, playing and play out. Anybody talks to you
Speaker 1: last night, Kalo Max say anything, Yeah, Bear's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they talked throughout the game. They played with a a lot
Speaker 1: of energy. They're a good defense. Hicks likes to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit that yeah, yeah, no, he was having
Speaker 1: fun and uh, well wait, how do you know he's
Speaker 1: having fun. He's just got a big smile on his face.
Speaker 1: You know, during TV time outs, he's talking to our team,
Speaker 1: to Dalvin and actually one of our reserve lineman, Brett Jones,
Speaker 1: played with him in college in Canada, so he was saying,
Speaker 1: make sure you say hi to Brett Jones for me.
Speaker 1: So he's just talking the whole game, you know, all
Speaker 1: in good fun. Oh so there's no smack talk that
Speaker 1: goes both ways, you know, I mean it's uh, it
Speaker 1: can get heated too. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know, when the games that over, you shake hands
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you know you're great players and you're
Speaker 1: a great defense for a reason. And we got to
Speaker 1: see him again in December. So you know, you don't
Speaker 1: want to to, you know, say anything too too strong.
Speaker 1: You're a religious person. You ever said to somebody, hey,
Speaker 1: watch your language on the field. That's a great question.
Speaker 1: Uh No, I don't think I've tried to parent anybody
Speaker 1: on the field, but sometimes, you know, if I feel it, guys,
Speaker 1: you know, not getting back to the huddle. That's really
Speaker 1: what I get paranoid about. Is you know, I got
Speaker 1: a play clock to operate with. I only got forty
Speaker 1: seconds to call the play. So if you're gonna go,
Speaker 1: you know, chatter with a player not getting the huddle,
Speaker 1: I can't call the play. That gives me less time
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. So I scolded Dalvin one
Speaker 1: time last night for not getting in the huddle fast enough.
Speaker 1: But I could see that where somebody's gonna say, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna rip you're bleeping the head off, and and you say, hey,
Speaker 1: clean up. Yeah that's yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's gonna go. Boy,
Speaker 1: that's great trash talking. What did he say to you?
Speaker 1: He said that's not nice. Yeah, you don't want to
Speaker 1: let him, you know, see them getting your head at all.
Speaker 1: So you uh, you just say you know nothing, or
Speaker 1: or just kind of smile and wave, I know you
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Speaker 1: on loan from ESPN Senior NBA Insider part of ESPN's
Speaker 1: exclusive NBA Draft coverage this Wednesday, starting at seven thirty Eastern.
Speaker 1: WOAJ also hosting a new three part narrative podcast series
Speaker 1: called The Jannis Draft on the events leading up to
Speaker 1: the twenty thirteen NBA Draft, available everywhere. Podcasts are streamed
Speaker 1: and downloaded in wods. Joining us now, WOJ, let me
Speaker 1: start there. Did the Bucks do enough yesterday to keep
Speaker 1: Jannis long term? I don't know Dan if that question
Speaker 1: has been answered yet, but they certainly made that team better,
Speaker 1: and that was a directive from ownership from Jannis. They
Speaker 1: knew they weren't good enough. They've been a very very
Speaker 1: good regular season team. They have not shown they've been
Speaker 1: built for the playoffs. They those are two impactful players.
Speaker 1: In Drew Holiday in bad Yanovic, I would say this
Speaker 1: about janis when players come to this crossroad about staying
Speaker 1: or going, signing or leaving, and generally, in my experience,
Speaker 1: there are guys who are looking for reasons to leave,
Speaker 1: and there are guys who are looking for reasons to stay.
Speaker 1: And I believed all along Jannis has been a player
Speaker 1: who has been looking for reasons to stay. You look
Speaker 1: at his life and how just I think the things
Speaker 1: that are important to him. Loyalty is a big part
Speaker 1: of it and feeling people did right by him. That's
Speaker 1: a theme throughout his entire life. So I there certainly
Speaker 1: was a lot of enthusiasm within the Bucks last night
Speaker 1: into this morning. They're excited not just that it makes
Speaker 1: a team better, but that they've given Yannis, given Yannis
Speaker 1: reasons to want to stay. I think there's a high
Speaker 1: confidence level that they put themselves in position. But he
Speaker 1: still has to sign that contract. So this podcast is
Speaker 1: called the Jannis Draft. It's based on the events leading
Speaker 1: up to the twenty thirteen NBA Draft. When I go back,
Speaker 1: I'm still shocked that the Dallas Mavericks didn't end up
Speaker 1: with Jannis because Donnie Nelson is always so good at
Speaker 1: finding these players overseas. How did Milwaukee? Did Milwaukee just
Speaker 1: stumble into Jannis? Milwaukee did not stumble into them. They
Speaker 1: had scouted him extensively. John Hammond Jeff Waltman, who was
Speaker 1: their front office at the time, went to see him.
Speaker 1: They were at fifteen. The team that had essentially shut
Speaker 1: down the draft process with his agent, Alex Ratzis was Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and they had picks going into draft. They ended up
Speaker 1: with sixteen and seventeen. They had brought him in for
Speaker 1: a visit. They snuck him into Atlanta right before he
Speaker 1: went to New York for the draft, but Milwaukee was
Speaker 1: a spot ahead of them. But Dallas is interesting because
Speaker 1: Donnie Nelson has such a history with international players, going
Speaker 1: back to Dirk and the Lithuanian national team and obviously
Speaker 1: driving Force and bringing Don Chech to He loved the Honis.
Speaker 1: In fact, Mike Procopio, who's in the podcast, was in
Speaker 1: that room, their draft room that night. He remembers Donnie
Speaker 1: Nelson comparing the Honis. He reminded him of doctor Jay.
Speaker 1: That was the name he used in the draft room
Speaker 1: that night. But at the time, Mark Cuban and the organization,
Speaker 1: they were determined to get Dwight Howard in free agency.
Speaker 1: He was the big free agent. They were trying to
Speaker 1: create more cap space, and by moving down in the draft,
Speaker 1: they were able to create more space. And they're another
Speaker 1: team that in the honest Draft in the story, you know,
Speaker 1: lives with the regret of passing on, you know, a
Speaker 1: generational player in what was one of the worst drafts
Speaker 1: in recent history. Remember Anthony Bennett went number one in
Speaker 1: that draft. Oh boy, I saw a tweet this morning
Speaker 1: and it says that Harden wants the Nets, but Kyrie
Speaker 1: doesn't want James Harden. Separate fact from fiction here. First
Speaker 1: of all, is Harden actively trying to get out of
Speaker 1: Houston and is Brooklyn the only destination? If that's true,
Speaker 1: Harden is actively trying to get out of Houston to
Speaker 1: go to Brooklyn. His focus right now is on one team,
Speaker 1: that's the Nets. That's not my reporting, certainly on the
Speaker 1: Kyrie piece. I don't have information that he's not on
Speaker 1: board with this. I certainly know Kevin Durant is very
Speaker 1: enthusiastic about it. The two teams have been in contact
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and Houston, but I'm told there hasn't been any
Speaker 1: real substantive talk about a trade. Remember the Rockets, because
Speaker 1: Harden has two years left on his deal, they have
Speaker 1: some time on their side. They don't have to rush
Speaker 1: into anything different than the Anthony Davis situation in New
Speaker 1: Orleans when he was in the final year of his contract,
Speaker 1: when he was able to ultimately push the trade to
Speaker 1: the Lakers. How does this work in Brooklyn? Well, I
Speaker 1: think the question there's two questions here. How hell bent
Speaker 1: is Harden on getting there? Will he It's easy when
Speaker 1: you're in the offseason, you're not in training camp, you're
Speaker 1: not playing games to live with this hanging over you.
Speaker 1: It's different when your players coming to work every day.
Speaker 1: You saw that in Minnesota with Jimmy Butler. Jimmy made
Speaker 1: it hard for everybody to exist. It couldn't go on
Speaker 1: forever like that. I don't know that that's how James
Speaker 1: will approach this. Those are different personalities, different people, but
Speaker 1: also from Brooklyn. They don't have to have James Harden,
Speaker 1: and I Sean Marks's track record as an executive, I
Speaker 1: don't I think he's always shown great restraint in doing deals.
Speaker 1: The idea of a you know, the kind of deal
Speaker 1: the previous regime did with the Celtics with multiple picks
Speaker 1: and multiple pick swaps going out into infinity almost that's
Speaker 1: not his style. I think there is the potential for
Speaker 1: a restrained offer for Harden, but I don't imagine that
Speaker 1: the Nets are gonna go at it. Would go at
Speaker 1: it with desperation. They don't have to have them, but
Speaker 1: having them and the three of them, it's something you've
Speaker 1: got to look at. And I do think they're gonna
Speaker 1: look at it, and I are looking at it, but
Speaker 1: There's a big difference between that and getting to a
Speaker 1: place where you have a deal. Yeah, if I'm the Rockets,
Speaker 1: I'm in no hurry right now. I don't know what
Speaker 1: are they doing with Russell Westbrook. Well, they're more active
Speaker 1: and trying to seek out trades with Westbrook. They're different
Speaker 1: players and there's different values on them around the league.
Speaker 1: Right now, you know Westbrook right now, I'm not aware
Speaker 1: of any traction anywhere on a possible deal. I think
Speaker 1: it's very likely that both Westbrook and Harden are back,
Speaker 1: are still on the roster, certainly for the start of
Speaker 1: training camp in early December. We're talking to Adrian Wojanowski,
Speaker 1: ESPN senior NBA Insider Part of the Draft Coming Up
Speaker 1: also has a new three part narrative podcast series called
Speaker 1: The Jannis Draft The events leading up to the twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen NBA Draft. Give me what the Lakers are doing
Speaker 1: right now? Well, they're certainly excited they were able to
Speaker 1: land Dennis Shrewder in a deal. They're waiting to see
Speaker 1: what happens with Rajon Rondo. I think there's a market
Speaker 1: for him where he can make more money potentially in
Speaker 1: free agency than is available for him. With the Lakers,
Speaker 1: and you know, Contavious Caldwell Pope is going to be
Speaker 1: an interesting one. They want to keep him. Think he's
Speaker 1: looking for a payday with them. And I think with
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, it is just a matter of how long
Speaker 1: of an extension or a new deal is he going
Speaker 1: to do with the Lakers. Does he get on the
Speaker 1: same contract timeframe in a short deal with Lebron or
Speaker 1: does he go and extend longer than that. But obviously
Speaker 1: Davis will be back in La Chris Paul deal, you know,
Speaker 1: I know he wins. I know he's at a stage
Speaker 1: in his career. Of Milwaukee I always felt was going
Speaker 1: to be a better landing spot. I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: to win a championship maybe, but Phoenix almost felt like
Speaker 1: a lifestyle situation as well. Give me the logic with
Speaker 1: Phoenix bringing in Chris Paul. This is an organization that
Speaker 1: needs credibility. They've needed leadership. I think they they really answered,
Speaker 1: they really started to fill that leadership credibility void by
Speaker 1: hiring Monty Williams last year. You saw the impact Williams
Speaker 1: had on that team. That's an organization I think we've
Speaker 1: lost Wode's probably that is an organization. Yes, it is
Speaker 1: actually right. Maybe he's gotten another call. Oh, very possible, yes,
Speaker 1: my club. Maybe it's a Brooklyn area code came in.
Speaker 1: He just had to drop it immediately. What'd be great
Speaker 1: if he didn't even say hold on, he just goes.
Speaker 1: Remember when we had Brian Cashman on the Yankees GM,
Speaker 1: and I said, what if George Steinbrenner calls, He goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I hang up on you, like there was not even
Speaker 1: any I don't even know if he says goodbye. I
Speaker 1: just think it's basically, oh, I'm so take that other
Speaker 1: call there. But Fritzie working on getting a wods back there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Chris Paul situation, you know, Phoenix probably looked at
Speaker 1: what they did in the bubble where they went eight
Speaker 1: no and went, you know, we we can compete with
Speaker 1: all of these teams. And then you bring in Chris Paul.
Speaker 1: All right, I mean he wins, but what is he
Speaker 1: thirty four thirty five? Would you were just just on
Speaker 1: the precipice of telling something really important about Phoenix tried
Speaker 1: to send the other called a voicemail and I hug
Speaker 1: you up there, that wasn't a Brooklyn I should know
Speaker 1: how to work a poe. That wasn't a Brooklyn area
Speaker 1: code calling right, No, that was a good Western. I'll
Speaker 1: leave it at that Western. Okay, Yeah, we don't take
Speaker 1: those phone calls. Nobody wants here from Indiana. Um so, Paul,
Speaker 1: they think this is legitimate here with what they can do,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, this is an organization. Yeah, they need
Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs. They have been so bad
Speaker 1: for so long and rutterless. And to have someone like
Speaker 1: Chris Paul for Devin Booker for DeAndre and those are
Speaker 1: players who have been a part of a lot of
Speaker 1: dysfunction there previous to Monty Williams arrival and losing in
Speaker 1: bad habits that come from that. Chris Paul brings just
Speaker 1: a competitive spirit, a leadership and let's he's still playing
Speaker 1: at a very high level at thirty five years old,
Speaker 1: given that he's got a couple of years left on
Speaker 1: the deal, the fact that Robert Sarver is going to
Speaker 1: pay that contract, I think it's a no brainer. I
Speaker 1: think it's unique to Phoenix. That's just they need to
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs. They need to show that they're
Speaker 1: a real NBA organization. Again, it's a great NBA market
Speaker 1: It's got great history and Phoenix a great fan base,
Speaker 1: and they deserve better than what they've had for a
Speaker 1: very long time under Starver. I think this for them
Speaker 1: was a step they absolutely had to make. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a great deal for them. I must be
Speaker 1: in the minority here, but I am sounding the bugle
Speaker 1: of what about Golden State is a title contender? And
Speaker 1: it just feels like when we talk about the West,
Speaker 1: Golden State doesn't is not in the picture. What am
Speaker 1: I missing here? Woaj Well? I think just the fact
Speaker 1: that they were out of sight and out of mind
Speaker 1: for a year and Durant left, and but you come
Speaker 1: back and Steph Curry and Clay Thompson and certainly Draymond
Speaker 1: and Andrew Wiggins, who you kind of forget it was
Speaker 1: traded there just prior to the season shutting down. And
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a chance at the top of the
Speaker 1: draft here to get you one of the elite players
Speaker 1: in this draft. And that's going to be somebody either
Speaker 1: they're going to keep and try to develop, or maybe
Speaker 1: if they don't use that player in a trade on
Speaker 1: Draft night, later on that big player starts banging the
Speaker 1: drum to get out of somewhere and that pick the
Speaker 1: Warriors make ends up in a larger deal down the road.
Speaker 1: But yeah, listen, this Warrior team is still going to
Speaker 1: be very formidable in the West. Like that. They're they're
Speaker 1: not going away. Do you have an idea of who
Speaker 1: that name who would want to get out of a
Speaker 1: place to end up at Golden State is wo No.
Speaker 1: But I think the whole league is going to wait
Speaker 1: and see what happens with Bradley Beale. He has made
Speaker 1: it very clear he is right now he is in Washington,
Speaker 1: that he is committed to staying there. He signed a
Speaker 1: short deal last year. But they've got to continue to
Speaker 1: have improve in Washington. They've got to show him that
Speaker 1: there's a pathway to being a contender in the East again.
Speaker 1: But Beale is the one everyone's launching. I have Tommy
Speaker 1: Shepherd and Ted Leons is a lot of credit in Washington.
Speaker 1: A year ago, when Shepherd took over, you would have
Speaker 1: thought Beale was on the way out, and he has
Speaker 1: shown him a lot of promise with trying to piece
Speaker 1: together that organization again. And so Beale has been very loyal.
Speaker 1: He wants it to work in Washington. So right now
Speaker 1: he's not available. He has told them I'm want to
Speaker 1: I want to be here now. But that's still going
Speaker 1: to be addressed over the long term. Every team in
Speaker 1: the league with love for Badley beal to be out
Speaker 1: on the trade market. But that's not the case. Now.
Speaker 1: What's the wildest rumor you've heard in the last week
Speaker 1: or so? Oh unkind None come to mind, None that
Speaker 1: are I think what is going to be really interesting, Dan, though,
Speaker 1: is the financial impact of this pandemic and the loss
Speaker 1: of revenue around the league. How many teams out there,
Speaker 1: how many owners are really going to be willing to
Speaker 1: spend and really push it financially here in the short term.
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about last season being the Asterix season.
Speaker 1: I wonder about this year with the pandemic and the
Speaker 1: potential of the virus costing team games just like happens
Speaker 1: in baseball, or players being out. We took for granted
Speaker 1: in the bubble everyone was going to stay healthy. How
Speaker 1: many teams actually play seventy two regular season games this year,
Speaker 1: how many key players are missing in those and you're
Speaker 1: playing without fans and all those things. This is the
Speaker 1: year more than that bubble championship where things could get
Speaker 1: a little out of whack, and as teams are again
Speaker 1: putting together their payrolls and teams, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of teams suffering financially in this who you just may
Speaker 1: see be less than competitive, less than aggressive in free
Speaker 1: agency and around the draft. Owners like Steve Balmer the
Speaker 1: Lakers make a lot of money with that local TV
Speaker 1: deal that doesn't go away with no fans in the arena.
Speaker 1: How does it impact all these teams as they put
Speaker 1: rosters together in trying to win this title. Weach good
Speaker 1: luck with the podcast and of course the NBA Draft
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. We appreciate your time as always, thanks for
Speaker 1: having me as always, good so, Adrian Woodsnarowski, ESPN Senior
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