1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Heard around the world on the I Heart Radio app, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Apple Podcast or wherever you'll get your podcast, it's Cannabis 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Talk one oh one with Blue. I got into cannabis 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: in two thousand ten doing medical cannabis under the Medical 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Marijuana Access Program, and what I learned really quickly is 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: that like, we can't actually get the medicine to the 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: patients in the form of flower at the quantities that 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: are required the patients. Those who need cannabis the most, 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: they need high quantities of cannabinoists and for that we 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: need extracts. But there's a missing link right now. When 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: we take cannabis extracts and cannabinoid extracts and we distill 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: them down to you one or two molecules, it's not 13 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: doing the full job of the planet. And as someone 14 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: who made this slipants for for a good while there, 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: I understood that when patients got the flower they had 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: a different effect than when they got th HC distolate. 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: So that brings me to our next and last discussion 18 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: with Dr John McKay from Synergistic Technologies. Talk to Mickey, 19 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: come on out here. I know you're tired, but I 20 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: gotta seat for you, sir. Yeah, and I'm at Dr 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: McKay at ken Mett. We took a walk and said 22 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Dr McKay, will you have a coffee with me. It's 23 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Sally Muffins from Cannabis Talk one on one community Outreach, 24 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: And I said, Dr McKay, I'm exploring this, so it's 25 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm finding out about some good stuff. I'm finding out 26 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of bad stuff. And one of the things 27 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: I found out about in the United States is Delta 28 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: eight and Dr McKay was kind enough to school me 29 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: on those facts. So I want to introduce Dr McKay first. 30 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Noe'll bring out Mark from here five. Dr McKay, tell 31 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: the people watching who you are, and and maybe close 32 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: by what you told me about some extracts that we 33 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: might not really like. Oh so on that On that side, 34 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: it's hard to know which ones people like and stuff. 35 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: But I would say that on my career, I have 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: a a PhD in synthetic chemistry UM organic UM, I 37 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: have a a a thirty four ft r v N 38 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: and I've been doing nothing but cannabis extractions since UM. 39 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: So on that side, it's kind of like breaking bad. 40 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: I have all the different requisites that got the organic 41 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: I got the testing equipment, So on that side, that's 42 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: what you have. So if you took breaking bad and 43 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: you use tonguks and instead of barium and borons they 44 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: used the bees for that, then it would be raking wind. 45 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: On my side, what I've seen is on the synthetic 46 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: side is being able to see all the different cannabinoids 47 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: because we see them as organic molecules, and so over 48 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: that time, seeing these organic molecules has been the important 49 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: part for me because I can see what the plants 50 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: can do, and so on that side, I can also 51 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: see all the different products that can come from from that. 52 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: So think about it. Like I think I've mentioned you earlier, 53 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: is is if you're making sugar and you're trying to 54 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: crystallize sugar, you're warming up the sugar. Then at that 55 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: point in time, I hope there's not ghost behind me. 56 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: So that point in time, you're you're you're gonna start 57 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: to burn the sugar. You're just gonna start to make 58 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: it a brown And and the same thing happens with 59 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: maple syrup. Maple syrup is is a perfect um one. 60 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm a Vermonter, he's a Canadian. I don't like Canadian 61 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: maple syrup, it's it's substandard. And so but if you're 62 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: taking that same thing, you're you're do the same thing 63 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: with maple syrup, you will find it browns and browns. 64 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: And that's what you're gonna do if you're trying to 65 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: make maple candy. So now you bring yourself to cannabis. 66 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: And the cannabis plant makes very very very specific compounds. 67 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: It's an enzyme, it makes very specific compounds. And what 68 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: happens is when people are starting to do organic chemistry 69 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: and they start to make things like Delta eight or 70 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: Delta ten. Those are breakdown products and there's at least 71 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: four or five products that that can can be made from. 72 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: And so I brought up another tool and he's not 73 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: talking about me, folks, No, I'm not talking about you, 74 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: and that it's not a Canadian tool. And so it 75 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: says what would what would an acorn? What would an acorn? 76 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: What would a unicorn do? So every time that you're 77 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: doing that quick change and trying to make Delta eight, 78 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: it's got four different compounds that it can make and 79 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: it has no idea. So every time this clicks, it 80 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: comes up with a different answer. Every time you're taking 81 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: a Delta eight, it's making a whole bunch of different um, 82 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: different decomposition products. And that's why when they're saying, oh, 83 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I have Delta eight, there's nothing wrong with making pure 84 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: Delta eight. But if you have Delta eight, then you 85 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: have what's the other You should always make sure before 86 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: you close the pin and stick it into your hand 87 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: that that that the pen is not actually making a 88 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: mark on you. And that's me and that's what I do. 89 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Dr McKay um. You know, I 90 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: do have a follow up, but I'll wait to introduce 91 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: our next guests and then I'm gonna follow up and 92 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: ask you more details about those cannabinoids, their compositions, and 93 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: how you would describe them to us. Now, the next 94 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: person I want to pain into the conversation as we 95 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: discussed full plan extracts getting away from these um what 96 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: I call boutique or synthetic really cannabinoids is Mark Buzo 97 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: from Pure five. And when I heard about Mark's product, guys, 98 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was real. I actually thought that 99 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: somebody was trying to pull one on me. But luckily 100 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: it turned out to be a dear friend and someone 101 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: who is very well engaged in the cannabis industry and 102 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: while educated on it as well. And Mark and his 103 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: team sat down with me and they educated me so 104 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: I could actually understand that what I was producing up 105 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: in Canada was a cannabinoid product, whereas what they're producing 106 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: down here is a cannabis product and a plant extract. 107 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: So Mark, take it away, tell us well who you 108 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: are and what Pure five is. Thank you, thank you, 109 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: thank you for that great introduction. And I really like 110 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: your description because, uh, it really makes a difference good 111 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: evening everybody, how you're all doing. Everybody doing good. We've 112 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: been here for a while and um, you know, trying 113 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: to make things happen. So my name is Mark Vozo. 114 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: I've been doing extractions for oh a lot of years, 115 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: and um, when I first got involved in this industry, 116 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: I started to see that there was um like half 117 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: the picture that wasn't there. I just like was putting 118 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: the puzzle together, right, I mean that's what us engineers do, 119 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: right we we we you know, use logic, and the 120 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: logic told me that the cannabinoids seem like it was 121 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: something easy to get. Everybody had, you know, distalates. We 122 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: had a lot of cannabinoids, but the tirrpenes were really 123 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: interesting to me, right because the tirpenes, to me, which 124 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: I've learned and found, is you know, the prescriptive action, right. 125 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: The prescriptive action is what we're looking for out of cannabis, right. 126 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: And I like to say that the the cannabinoids is 127 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: the power with that prescriptive action is driven by the 128 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: tirpenes of the plant. And guess what, not everybody was 129 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: talking about tirrpenes that much because they can't get them 130 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: that easy, right, They're hard to get right. So um, 131 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: So that was what really intrigued me the most, right, 132 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: and that's what I really wanted to kind of study 133 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: and understand and try to deliver what what what? What? 134 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: What was the most difficult part? Right, that's the challenge, 135 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: kind of like playing golf anyway, Um, we got some 136 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: good background music, it's very good. So. Um. As as 137 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: I started to grow through the industry, I started to 138 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: work with Dr George stan Chev and Dr George stan 139 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Chev has Um created an extraction platform and our companies 140 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: called Pure five Extractions. And his platform was really done 141 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: with the botanicals. Uh. It comes from a long history 142 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: of herbs and and various uh plants, right, and different 143 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: types of oils, so you know, essential oils basically, And 144 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: then he adapted that to the cannabis world, and um, 145 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: I was very intrigued. He did more in the CBD side, 146 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: right in the hemp in the hemp world. So I 147 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: took the platform and started engineering cannabis on it, and 148 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: we make amazing products. It's just the full spectrum oils. 149 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: The straine specificity, right, that's something that's really not uh 150 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: defined yet in the industry when it comes to extracts. Right. 151 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: We have a lot of information on the on the 152 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: internet about every strain in a flower form. Now, how 153 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: much of that really applies to the oils, right, That's 154 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: where the disconnect comes into the industry. Right, So I 155 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: kind of see what I'm doing and what I've been 156 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: doing as kind of a bridge right from that gap 157 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: that's in the marketplace where we can't express the flour 158 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: in oil in a in a true form, in a 159 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: pure form. Right, That's that's that's the key. So so 160 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: you know what, what what stood out for me about 161 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: your statement was the opening part is when we talk 162 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: about cannabino, it's it really is like the the the 163 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: power if you like the up and down? For me, 164 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: how high do you get? But when we talk about 165 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: the turbines and the full planet is what kind of 166 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: hot do I get? Oh? Yeah, it's absolutely Now we're 167 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: going into Do I get an uplifting you know, medicine? 168 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: Do I get a time nighttime sedative? Do I get 169 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: something for focus? Do I get something to to reduce 170 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: my anxiety? And those are really not determined necessary but 171 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: by the effect. So on that, no, Doc, I want 172 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: to give it back to you to to discuss for 173 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: us what what you taught me in our in our 174 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: introduction about this conversation, and that the differences in those 175 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: classifications and how you would denote these different things. So 176 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: the biggest thing to take on that one is is 177 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: it's what I used for best. So a lot a 178 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: lot of people ask me what is what's the best extraction? 179 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: And the best extraction I break it down to be 180 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: being botanical integrity. You don't want to ruin the botanical 181 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: integrity of the plant, matter what plant it is, and 182 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: then from there because you can modify it afterwards. And 183 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: and E stands for extraction efficacy, So making sure that 184 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: it's clean and pure and and effective. And then S 185 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: is for safety and T is for testing with modern technology. 186 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: So when we're talking about the testing, then it what 187 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: I would be saying about the tyrpenes, the alkaloids and flavonoids, 188 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: all the other compounds that are within a cannabis plant. 189 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: You are making sure that you're extracting so that you're 190 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: getting as many of those compounds out as you can 191 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: based on what your need is. So when we were 192 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: talking before about the tyrpenes, so there's a good study 193 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: that was done um in California originally and then over 194 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: in um um Um trying to remember the university will 195 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: come to me on the over by Maryland. But um, 196 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: as you go back through, they had three different mixtures. 197 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: They had a mixture with a high and a low 198 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: t HC. So you had a high th HC low cbd, 199 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,239 Speaker 1: so a fourteen to one you had a wonder one, 200 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: and then you also had a one to fifteen, so 201 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: you had it the other way. But the tyrpenes were 202 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: identical in their in their um amount and the people 203 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: that they interviewed they each had this very similar experience. 204 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: They all had the same experience but the cannabinoids doesn't 205 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: mean that that's having the same experience on your body 206 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: and metabolism. Now you flip it around, and it was 207 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Ethan Russo and Mark Lewis who did that, and so 208 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: you flip that around and now you say, let's make 209 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: the tyrpenes wildly different and let's keep the carnabinoids a 210 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: one to one. And what happened was they had wildly 211 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: different experiences, so as we were talking about before, having 212 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: those tyrpenes in their own in their own world. So 213 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: the aromatic I mean, the therapy has been done for 214 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: decades and they've known about these small molecules in their 215 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: individual effect. And then you add on to that the cannabinoids. 216 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: So that's the increasing part. So let's talk about extracting 217 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: those exactly, Mark, how do we how do we take that? 218 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: And let's say I have a plant that maybe test 219 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: south at sometimes or some but because of the strange consistency, 220 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: I know I may more or less get those cons 221 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: consistent turping profiles that doctors told us about. How do 222 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: we extract that and and what's the key to that? 223 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: Will be right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one. 224 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back. To cannabis talk one oh one. Okay, so 225 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's testing that type of thing that's 226 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: really going to translate into how much you're gonna get, right, 227 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: And if you take into what John just said earlier 228 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: about the study, right, it's the terpenes that's gonna make 229 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: any difference if you can capture that, right. So the 230 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: best way to do that is obviously, UH hydrocarbons is 231 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: what the industry has been using. Right, We've we've been 232 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: using hydrocarbons, and you know UH and alcohols right is 233 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: UH and and c O two and then we do 234 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: uh rosin presses. So there's a whole different way everybody 235 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: approaches how to satisfy your requirement there, right, So, um, 236 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: the way I do it is actually using our one 237 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: four A gas it's a liquefied gas extraction, right, which 238 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: is a true hydrocarbon that's UH that has two fluorine atoms, 239 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: so it's it's non explosive, it's got a really great 240 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: gas profile, and it allows us it's non polar, right, 241 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: it's nonpolar gas, so we can get the full tirpene 242 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: profile out of the plant. To me, the most important 243 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: part is the tirpene profile, because if you can if 244 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: you can extract that and you can maintain the tirpene 245 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: profile right, then you can do a lot of expressions 246 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: in the products, right, That's where all the expressions of 247 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: the products come from. So I don't I don't know 248 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: if that answered your question. It does? I mean what 249 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: I want to know and maybe I'll go to you first, 250 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: Doc on this note is this, how can we and 251 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: I still want to follow up on your our our 252 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: thirty two thirty R for us to explain to the 253 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: audience that may be watching, like what that exactly entails, 254 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: because when I think about the refrigerant and those types 255 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: of um uh mechanisms, I'm thinking about something that is 256 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: pulling a molecule with actually touching the products. So I 257 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: think of that is pulling heat without actually touching the 258 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: air that it's pulling it from. But Doc, I want 259 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: to ask you, how can we relay that to like 260 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: what we would consider traditional or typical extraction methods and 261 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: what the difference might be there. So maybe you could 262 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: take us through what a what a distal it is 263 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: that that I brought up at the beginning, and then 264 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: how does this differ from that. Okay. So so the 265 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: first thing to do that you'll always start off with, 266 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: and that is is formulation centric. It depends on what 267 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: on what you're trying to make and what your what's 268 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: your your need is for that compound. So the difference 269 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: between a yellow cake and a an angel food cake, 270 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: those are two very significantly different products, and they're made 271 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: with different parts of the egg. One that you have 272 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: just the egg yolk that's the yellow the other one 273 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: you can't have any egg yolk at all. You have 274 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: to have it, you know, come up at a certain fluffiness, 275 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: and then you start to add material to it. So 276 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: when I'm taking those products, if I'm making a tincture 277 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: or if I'm making something that's gonna later be a vapin, 278 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make something that's later gonna be a gummy 279 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: or or or or a beverage. Each one of those 280 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: has a different type of material that I'm going to extract. 281 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: So now I moved to this segment here backing up 282 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: and from there that's the solvent. So it doesn't matter 283 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: to me what the solvent is. And your key thing 284 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: is like dissolves like and so oil and water they 285 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: don't go together um any any part of some of 286 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: those different materials CEO two versus water. You have all 287 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: those different missabilities, So you're trying to find something that 288 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: has the same solubility as what you're trying to separate out. 289 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: Then you move from there to the genetics. So if 290 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm going through a process and i'm and I'm trying 291 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: not to get myself to distalate, So a discilate is 292 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: is a fine product. It's you're now you've now concentrated 293 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: to and from there. But before that, you you had 294 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: less um, you had less purity. So I walked yourself 295 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: through sugar. You have brown sugar, you have dark brown sugar, 296 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: you have maple sugar, and then you have pure white sugar. 297 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: But then you start to add in all the other 298 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: impurities and salt, not impurities, but other parts of that, 299 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: and now you have yourself molasses. And so molasses has 300 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: a different state and you use it for different things 301 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: versus the white sugar. So it doesn't matter what the 302 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: solvent is here in this part. It matters about do 303 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: you know how to regulate that solvent so you're able 304 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: to pull it off. So you have one thirty four 305 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: A one thirty four A is tetrafloral e thane. And 306 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: when you have f thane versus propane versus bututane, it's 307 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: a number of carbons. It's just that you have fluorine 308 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: atoms instead of a hydrodyme, so it's a modified hydrocarbon. 309 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: C O two is a whole different molecule. It's it's 310 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: being able to be adapted at different pressures and temperatures. 311 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: You have water, you have ethanol, you have so many 312 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: other compounds. But I would say where the future is 313 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: going is not the individual extraction, it's the hybrid. So 314 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: the hybrid for me is making coffee. Ah making coffee. 315 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: So you do this every single day. So you take 316 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: the beans, you take them out of the fridge there 317 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: stored who would have thunked that, and you grind them 318 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: up and then you grind them up and then you 319 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: put them into some sort of part and then you 320 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: put them into a filter of some sort. And somewhere 321 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: along the way you now take your ethanol and you 322 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: pour it through the water so that you can make 323 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: your first morning cup of coffee. So you have ethanol 324 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: and calf. Oh wait no, you don't know. You don't. 325 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: That's right. You do it with water. I forgot. So 326 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: you have the hot water that was someone else's story, 327 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: and you have the hot water, and you go back 328 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: through and you have the caffeine. I implore people to 329 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: do the following experiment, and I mentioned it the other 330 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: night in my class I teach up at Baker Seal College, 331 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: and I said the following. Take a twelve pot, you know, 332 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: filter the typical filter type of coffee maker, and you 333 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: pour the hot water, and the hot water goes through, 334 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: and you take that first cup and you you put 335 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: it aside, put it aside, and now you make the 336 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: rest of the coffee, and you drink that rest of 337 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: the coffee, and you take that taste. And then you 338 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: take a taste of that first cup, and you know 339 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: what you're gonna taste petroleum. It's gonna be all the 340 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: oils that came off the bean. So there was a 341 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: woman who came the next day and said, I did 342 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: it to my husband. I'm just thinking this cannot be 343 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: a good thing. And she said, the first thing he 344 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: did is he almost spit it out because it was 345 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: so bitter with it. And that's what you're doing, the 346 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: same thing with and ladies, if you're watching, I mean, 347 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it to anyone, go ahead and 348 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: do it to your husband to forget you know what 349 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: I mean. So don't try this at home. But if 350 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna try it, better be at home. So when 351 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: you're doing the caffeine, same thing as happening. You're taking 352 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: off the very first volatile or most soluble compounds, and 353 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: those are your tyrpenes. They're very soluble, they're they're nonpolar 354 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: because they're just carbons and hydrogens until you move into 355 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: this into the oxygenated ones, and so those are terpenoids. 356 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: And so as you move that through, the very first 357 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: thing that comes off of the tyrpeenes, and that's where 358 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: you have to be careful. You have to do good science. 359 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: So a lot of the science I call it BS 360 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: bad science. Everyone else is going to be something else, 361 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: but it's bad science. I've heard other other definitions, but 362 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: that's a good one. Now I finally know what Well 363 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: for Canadians, you know, I'm sorry, you know, just didn't translate. 364 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, doc. Well, let me ask you this, doc, 365 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: and I want to pass it back to Mark. On 366 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: this note, you said that the future presents us with 367 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: the potential for hybrids and that there will be some 368 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of more conventional method that maybe everyone can use. 369 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: Is this something that we could simplify so that folks 370 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: can really even ever take their own plants that they're 371 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: used to strain, they love, They even want to buy 372 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: the flower from their local god and extracted in a 373 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: meaningful method that is not that at home do it yourself, 374 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: but kind of dangerous extraction that we have been taught before. 375 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: Does the future present an accessible way to extract using 376 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: g S good science? Oh, there's some gs. So if 377 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: you go back through I would say that if it 378 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: was a home type of thing, then I would invest 379 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: in uel style ethanol reclamation equipment. There's actually one made 380 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: up in Canada outside of Toronto. That's a very good aduct. 381 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: There's one made in Colorado. And so what it does 382 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: is it allows you to extract the cannabis with something 383 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: that we call ever clear here in the United States. 384 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: You just put it in the freezer, you make sure 385 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: it's nice and cold, and if you're watching, that's great alcohol. 386 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: Am I correct? No? What is ever clear is like 387 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: depends on which state, which state, But you buy it 388 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: and it's just alcohol and and a little bit of water, 389 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: but it's not grain alcohol and so because that has 390 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: heptane in it and other things. So you take that 391 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: and then you you do a very nice um um 392 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: extraction there and then you you take it and reclamate it. 393 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: Not on your stove, but a U L listed one 394 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: that reclamates it. It's got a vacuum and it holds 395 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: it back here and that and now you have that 396 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: oil that would have everything in it, and that would 397 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: be a full plant product. That would be a full 398 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: plant product, include in chlorophyll. There's nothing wrong with chlorophyll. 399 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: So looking at store and see how expensive chlorophyll is. 400 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: So Mark, let me ask you this then and then 401 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: we'll kick it up ended with one more question for you, 402 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: Dr McKay. And if you guys see my my background. 403 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: Right now, we're just wrapping up the BDB day. I 404 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: want to take a moment to thank you guys for 405 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: being on the show with us, but also make sure 406 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: you guys understand what's gonna go down tomorrow the biggest 407 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: event cannabis has ever seen, the Burning Trees Festival here 408 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: at at Atlantos Stadium. So Dr McKay described a fancy 409 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: machine that I can buy right now. It's a Canadian consumer. 410 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: It would be great if I had that or a a 411 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: newhere to get it, and I probably will find a 412 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: doc as soon as I get back up home. But Mark, 413 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: considering that same notion of full plant extract and availability 414 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: of products that are clean and healthy for the consumer 415 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: and a full plant, what if I don't have all 416 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: the those mechanisms and all those tools, or I'm not 417 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: even able to afford something like that. I've seen products 418 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: that you've helped folks create that are accessible our full plant, 419 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: and there they don't involve any trouble whatsoever. So what 420 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: do you see as the future and how you guys 421 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: are trying to contribute to making full plant cannabis at 422 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: high doses like what I described at the beginning for 423 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: medical patients that don't know how to roll a joint 424 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: or physically can't, what can we look forward to that's 425 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: going to be out in the market or available in 426 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: the near future that does provide access to full plant medicine. Okay, Well, 427 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: that's a that's a great question, and I love I 428 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: love the way you articulate these questions too. It's really 429 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: good because Ali has a really good understanding actually of cannabis. 430 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: If you can't tell, right, I spoke quite a bit, 431 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: thank you. I do understand how it feels very very well. 432 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: So anyway, UM, to kind of specifically answer your question, Okay, 433 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: full spectrum oils, let's talk about that, right, So, as 434 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: a most cannabis users probably don't know a lot about 435 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: full spectrum oils. They they're not marketed, right, It's not 436 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: marketed as full spectrum. Now you go over to the 437 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: CBD world and everything's full spectrum. They bastardized it. I mean, 438 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: if you had more than one cannabinoid, it's full spectrum. 439 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: So um, you know, I think that the multi cannabinoids 440 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: paired with the tirpene profiles in its purest format is 441 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: what's gonna drive the consumers. And that's what they're gonna like. 442 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: And um, that's that's what I'm bringing to the market. 443 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: And that's and and and the experience that I find 444 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: from the consumers is pretty overwhelming, right because it's it's 445 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: it's a high like you smoked flour in an oil 446 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: in an oil format, and and ultimately that's what people 447 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: are looking for, right, they're looking for that format and 448 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: when you talk about it in a medicinal manner. Okay, 449 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: that's where I think, you know, go back to what 450 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: John was saying earlier. Right, let's start with the goal 451 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: of what we're trying to accomplish. Do we have a 452 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: product here for daytime, for night time? Do we have 453 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: something for Alzheimer's. Do we have something for you know, 454 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: for swelling of the ankles? You know, I mean, I'll 455 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: tell you what, man, I've been in this industry about 456 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: six or seven years, and I never realized that people 457 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: will pay anything for pain relief. They will pay anything. 458 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: That's the pharmaceutical industry. Oh my god. Well yeah, let's 459 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: but they could be constructed a little different. Right, So 460 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: we're the anti pharmaceutical industry here and give you natural remedies. 461 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: And people are amazed at these products work, you know. 462 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I get people in tears when their pain 463 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: goes away. And that's one of the reasons why I 464 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: like to do what I do, because you know, obviously 465 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: you're you're you're solving people's problems, You're you're changing people's lives. Uh. 466 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: In some cases, we're extending people's lives because of these 467 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: full spectrum extracts, you know, uh, and and they they 468 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: really do work, and so so eventually at this point, 469 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: maybe this isn't something in the far off future, something 470 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: we have to you know, and can they get this? 471 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: Where do they find it? Right? Right? Right? Right? You 472 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: know that's the thing, you know, I saw earlier in 473 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: the panels. They're talking about the multi state operators and 474 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: these big guys and all the money that controls the 475 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: industry and so forth, and you know there's some disconnect there, right, 476 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the the end user should be 477 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: the ones trying to tell us what we want, what 478 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: we want, But then again maybe they don't know what 479 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: they want? Right, So how do we bridge that? How 480 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: do we make it change in this industry so that 481 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: you know that what's the next buzz word? Right? Okay, 482 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: let's call it full spectrum oil? Right fs O? F 483 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: all the accuratum. Does anybody walk into a dispensary and 484 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: ask for fs O? I don't know. I don't do 485 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: a lot of dispensary shopping, you know, but if you 486 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: walked in and asked the bud tender, do you have 487 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: any full spectrum oils? It? Maybe in a vape in 488 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: a tincture, you know, I mean, I don't know. I 489 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: don't know, Okay, So I'll end it on this no 490 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: doc with one last question for you. So we've talked 491 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: about this too it. We've talked about full spectrum oil, 492 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: we've talked about full plant products, and you on our 493 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: planning meeting for this brought something to life for me 494 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: that I didn't even know about until you mentioned it, 495 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: because I've only really ever had amber maple sah made 496 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: in the wonderful province of Quebec in the great country 497 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: you have, Canada, And you said to me, while there's 498 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: something we could actually learn from maple syrup and the 499 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: grading of maple syrup and what has been established over 500 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: a period of time in an industry that we would 501 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: all consider alive and well and traditional. And by the way, 502 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: maple serup is extremely expensive, guys. A barrel of maple 503 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: syrup costs you more than a barrel of oil last 504 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: time I checked. And we're all complaining about oil prices 505 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: and gas perus. I mean, wait till you try to 506 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: ship maple syrup to the United States. Ladies and gentlemen 507 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: at the Cannabis Talk one on one office. I almost 508 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: got I mean I almost got in trouble for for 509 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: for the shipping on my visa. And so what can 510 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: we learn dr from an industry that is well established 511 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: that you think we need to implement in cannabis. That's 512 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: my last question for you. We'll be right back with 513 00:30:48,800 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk 514 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: one oh one. So I'll go back to a little 515 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: bit before the last question, and that is how much 516 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: is something that you're doing at home? And so there 517 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: are products out there. I like UM. I have a 518 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: lot of different things I use. I use the Ardent 519 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: out of UM Boston Chanel, I can't remember Chanel's last name, 520 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: but Ardent and within that product, very inexpensive product. It 521 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: allows you to take flour and decarboxylated and then take 522 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: the flour and move it to the next one in 523 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: place and m C T oil in and then she 524 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: has recipes that allow you to do that and that's 525 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: a nice that's a nice part. There's also a company 526 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: in Colera and then the the getting rid of the yatanol. 527 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: It's only like a three or four d dollar product 528 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: that allows you to have a small vacuum at the 529 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: same time being able to take off that ethanol really well. 530 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: And that's a U L product. And that's that's how 531 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: the Colorado. And then a little cell to analyzer analyzer 532 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: extractor which is about five thousand dollars that you can 533 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: put a few ounces in whether it's lavender or cannabis 534 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: or hamp or whatever. So and then back to maple syrup. 535 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: So maple syrup Number one thing. Maple syrup. One thing 536 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: it has is is you have to know which tree, 537 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: the great Canadian maple tree that is that would be 538 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: one of the trees that I would choose if I, 539 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, didn't want a high quality maple syrup. But 540 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: if I but out of Vermont, I wouldn't be a 541 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: sugar grove. And so what you would have is you 542 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: choose the different ones and you stick the tube into 543 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: the tree at the right time of the year. You 544 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: don't stick the tube into another tree. You don't stick 545 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: it into a BArch tree, you don't stick it into 546 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: an oak tree. You stick it into a sugar maple tree. 547 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: And because of the capillary action that happens within that 548 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: specific grind, the sap is going up in out and 549 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: then you pull it off and now you have to 550 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: filter it, and it drives itself down to this little 551 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: place that now you have this light nice um oven 552 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: and so you're heeding it to a certain temperature slowly 553 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: but surely, and the water goes away and slowly but 554 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: surely it's left with a concentrate. This sounds familiar. And 555 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: then what you have to do is you have to 556 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: have the different colors and you have to have the 557 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: color that matches that, but also have the specific gravity 558 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: of what that maple syrup. It has to have meat 559 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: very very specific conditions. And that's what you have to have. 560 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: Is you're moving towards cannabis, and it should be that 561 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: I have this much of the turpins. They should be 562 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: reported how much do I have, how much do I 563 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: have of the cannabinoids, and how much do I have 564 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: of unknown for example. But each one of those has 565 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: it has a different color. And so that's the part 566 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: that maple syrup is very much similar. So you can't 567 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: just there, I will tell one more story. You can't 568 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: just say Canadian maple syrup is the best, because there's 569 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: also is thatways telling me that I am I am? 570 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: And Vermont has the highest strictness as far as standardization. 571 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: They have the highest rules that you can't call it 572 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: a Vermont maple syrup unless it has that. One day 573 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: in nineteen about nineteen ninety one or so, um, my 574 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: mom had called my house in Colorado and through the 575 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: conversation found out that we didn't have any maple syrup 576 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: in the house. And you would have just said, you know, 577 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: one of your grandchildren has been killed. But she's she 578 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: went into a panic. We gotta get Uncle Orman. Uncle 579 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: Orman has to get us some maple syrup. She meatly 580 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: Federal expressed out maple syrup to my house so that 581 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: we would not be without maple syrup. That's what I 582 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: did when I moved to America, did you I you 583 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: ps myself some great Canadian maple syrup. But you know 584 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do next. When I shaved saved the 585 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: international shipping, I'm gonna go ahead in order some Vermont 586 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: maple syuh and I'm gonna take better care of myself 587 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: and what I put in my body, because that's one 588 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: of the things I continue to learn here. And I 589 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: haven't completely you know, let go of my Canadian ways. 590 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: But what I'll come back to you. It is this 591 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: what Dr McCage just pointed out, and I don't know 592 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: if everyone understood the importance of that. He said that 593 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: Vermont has the highest standards. So I might say something 594 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: is top shelf, but if my standard first top shelf 595 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: is actually down here, well we might not be dealing 596 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 1: with top shelf. And so I have got to raise 597 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: the bar, and so do we have. And this is 598 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: my last question for you, Dr McKay. I do want 599 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: to take a moment to say thank you, thank you 600 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: so much for joining us, thank you for staying with us, 601 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: and and you know, through everything that uh A live 602 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: event offers, making sure that we were able to still 603 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: give this a content to the community. So I do 604 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: want to take a moment to thank Synergistic Technologies you 605 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: Dr McKay. And what is the institute? So along the way, 606 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: what we did is we decided to make an institute 607 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: for more live training and being able. So it's a 608 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: Dr McKay um Institute of Extraction Technology. So we're really 609 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: focused on helping people extract with live instruments, whether it's 610 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: eth and all CEO to on f A, teaching them 611 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: all the different modes. Well, I wouldn't invite anyone watching 612 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: this to make sure that you guys check that institute 613 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: out so that you can get your cannabis extracts to 614 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: be as good as Vermont's maple ceremony. What a great 615 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: standard you go, And so I'll end my discussion with 616 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: you Mark on this. How do I differentiate I'm a 617 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: consumer looking for my medicine? How do I differentiate between 618 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: a patented genetics that Doc Gray has or something that's 619 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: full plan extract from one of Hendrick's farms trains from 620 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: a distelle that d mnsos offer. What is what am 621 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: I looking for? And what can you tell us as 622 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: our last guide before we leave here for tonight on 623 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: what consumers can can look to or the extracts that 624 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: they can use to get those strange specific effects rather 625 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: than just a black and white product. Great question. I 626 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: love your questions. Okay, So there's some I'll call them 627 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: maybe myths or misunderstandings that people have, Like when they 628 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: look at oil, they you know they can? You can? 629 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: You have senses, right. The reason we call ourselves pure 630 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: five is because it's pure across all five senses. So 631 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: I encourage people to use all five sensors when they're 632 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: trying to determine what's the difference or what is good 633 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: and what is what is not. I won't say bad, 634 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: just not as good, not acceptable. So here's here's the 635 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: here's the first one. What is the color of pure hop? Right? 636 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: So there you go, maple syrup extra again. So everybody 637 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: thinks that the clearer their oil is, the cleaner it is, right, Well, no, 638 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: it's highly refined, okay, the more refined it is, okay, 639 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: And that means it's further away from the plant profile period. 640 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: So you know, when you talk about manufacturing and trying 641 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: to do things in large volume and you're trying to 642 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: you know, create consistency and all these kind of things 643 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: that we do as humans and dry for perfection and everything. 644 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: They you know, they have certain ways that they you know, 645 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: refine the product down and add things back to the 646 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: product later, right like that, That's the one thing that 647 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: really bugs me. It's adding terpenes from botanical sources. And 648 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: then also what you said earlier about the levels okay, 649 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 1: or John was saying earlier about the levels of the tirpenes, right, 650 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, would you 651 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: want oil with levels of tirpenes that's higher than what 652 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: you would smoke in your joint. No, I'd want the 653 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: same thing that that Doc Gray grew. I want the 654 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: same right, that's right. The strains that I've come to 655 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: know and love. The blueberry strain, is this something that 656 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: smells their taste like blueberry. It's something that DJ is 657 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: short created and it the finished product doesn't smell so 658 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 1: much like blueberties as the plant itself does, right, right, 659 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: right right. It's like, where do you get your information? 660 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: So a mem m e m e is where do 661 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 1: you get your information? So as I always say, you know, 662 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: the start of the movie is a few good men 663 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: you can't handle the trols, And so when you're going 664 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: back through, where's your man? Where is your information coming from? 665 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: That that when that one was free? I know I 666 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be talking. But that's not like, No, 667 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: we love it, We love it. You know. It's like, 668 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: and so do you recommend a particular type of extract 669 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: that we can give consumers before we finish out? Everyone 670 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: watching this show like do we go for hashy? Do 671 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: we go? We definitely don't want to go for this 672 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: solid I think that's the least pure we can get, 673 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: not least pure, but the least representation of the furthest 674 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: away from the plant representation. Yeah, you know what, maybe 675 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: I should say it like this, it's the most sanitized 676 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: or like sanitized, that's a good word. I like, the 677 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: most refined is this? But what is the most complete 678 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: extract that I could that I could get? Okay, well, 679 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean a lot of these rosin presses 680 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: and rosin hash and bubble hash and things like that. 681 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: You know, Um, they're gonna be representative of the of 682 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: the flower as long as but there's an art to that, right, 683 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: there's a technique to that, and not everybody's art is 684 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: the same. And how long do you leave it in 685 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: the wash? And you know, and and then at the 686 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: end everybody wants to put it into edibles now and 687 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: oh whoa, we have to decarb it to put it 688 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: in the edible. So you know, they're going through a 689 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: lot of process, even though it's manual and kind of 690 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: non intrusive in some ways, right, because they're just using 691 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: heat and pressure and water right as a solvent, so 692 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: you know, more of a carrier as a carrier. Yeah, 693 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a does a house move because 694 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: it was soluble in the hurricane right right? So as 695 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: so as we end, now, is there anything that you 696 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: guys want to leave anyone viewing this? Yeah, you know what, 697 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a little plug. I know you've been 698 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: pushing there, so listen. I'll tell everybody thank you. Okay. 699 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: So you know I produced these highly pure crude extracts, okay, 700 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: and literally with very little post processing to those, we 701 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: can smoke them, we can make products, we can enjoy them. 702 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: So I had to come up with a way to 703 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: figure out to give customers or consumers a way to 704 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: identify with the differentiation. So we developed a standard and 705 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: we call it the Pure Botanical Extraction the PBX standard. 706 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: So if anybody wants to start to look for something 707 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: or try to understand what's the differentiation in the market, 708 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: highly pure, close to the as close to the plant 709 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: as possible, straine specific type extracts p b X is it. 710 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: That's the future. That's what I'm that's what I'm driving. Amazing. 711 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for that mark. I want to thank you 712 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: Dr McKay again for making town Forest mark. Thank you. 713 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: We'll see that p b X stamp on a bunch 714 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: of Oh yeah, baby, we're getting there, California getting some growth. 715 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: I will say one more thing, So if you're if 716 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: you're going out there for the concentration, like Mark was 717 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: talking about, the key thing to do is get yourself 718 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: a large family pack of M and m's, because I 719 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: already have that in the car. So when you do 720 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: the Eminem's and you and you realize that the plant 721 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: parts are the green you take out the greens because 722 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: that's what you're doing for the concentration. But you're not 723 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: changing anything about the blues and the browns and the 724 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: other ones because they had a certain percentage. But you're 725 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: taking the percentage out. You want to talk about units. 726 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: And then when you're going to the second process, perhaps 727 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 1: there are lipids that you don't want and those might 728 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: be the yellow ones, So you take out the yellow 729 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: So now you haven't changed the key parts of what 730 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 1: you're trying to provide through that medicine. So when I 731 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: talk about the concentration, I like to talk about Eminem's 732 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: and take out those and by the time you're done, 733 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: you can have a couple of the red ones. I'll 734 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: let you have a couple of the red Ones while 735 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: you're working because I am Canadian after also, right is 736 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: That's why I did it. Thank you so everybody, thank 737 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: you very much for tuning in and watching it along 738 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: and following along. Mark, thank you again. Dr McKay, thank 739 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: you again. And we are completing the can X pdb 740 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: X ball. I want to thank our host Game Day, 741 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: can X and the City of Atlanto. I'm Ari my 742 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: offense from Cannabis, the world's number one source for everything cannabis. 743 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: We will see you tomorrow at the Burning Trees Festival. 744 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: Here behind me, it's about to kick off and on 745 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: Saturday August we are going to so the biggest part 746 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: of the cannabis industry has ever seen. This is a 747 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: party with cannabis sales, Cannabis Consumption featuring Ludicris, Buster Rhymes 748 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: and Mr Exz Exhibit along with his brand Napal. Thank 749 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: you everybody for tuning in and remember if no one 750 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: else loves you, we do. Thank you for listening to 751 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,959 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one on the I Heart Radio app, 752 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: Apple Podcast or where every get your podcasts. M m 753 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: HM