Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joining this Friday morning by Derek Brown and
Speaker 1: my Pat Fitz Morris Bellas it's a key questions show.
Speaker 1: Before we dive into the show, we want to do
Speaker 1: a quick recap of Thursday night football, as we often do.
Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers, thirty six Seahawks twenty four. In this one,
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Actually sure what the single biggest takeaway is.
Speaker 1: There were kind of two that I wanted to highlight
Speaker 1: that I'll ask you guys about. One of them is,
Speaker 1: obviously the running back situation for San Francisco. Jordan Mason
Speaker 1: did leave the game. He came back in for a
Speaker 1: play and then left again. Didn't play pretty much the
Speaker 1: entire second half. We did get a very long run
Speaker 1: to close it out from Isaac Garendo on the San
Speaker 1: Francisco side.
Speaker 2: He didn't do a.
Speaker 1: Ton prior to that. Is he a priority add for
Speaker 1: you guys next week? Are you waiting to see what happens?
Speaker 1: You know with some of the injury updates for Mason,
Speaker 1: How are you approaching this backfield right now?
Speaker 2: Debro?
Speaker 3: I think Grenda needs to be at the top of
Speaker 3: the list. I think Patrick Taylor is definitely going to
Speaker 3: be involved. But if you want the upside play if
Speaker 3: Mason wordem is time, which we can't discount. He tried
Speaker 3: to come back in the second half, got one carry.
Speaker 3: If everybody bet Jordan Mason rushing overs like me, you
Speaker 3: would have liked to see one more carry for Jordan Mason,
Speaker 3: but it didn't happen. So I think Grindo showed exactly
Speaker 3: what you want out of the type of handcuff like situation,
Speaker 3: Like he has the big play opportunity and the ability.
Speaker 3: You know, we can debate on raw talent for days,
Speaker 3: but he does have that straight line speed. If you
Speaker 3: give him a crease, he could take one of the
Speaker 3: house and he almost did it last night. So Grindo
Speaker 3: needs to be picked up everywhere.
Speaker 1: But people, Fitz, do you agree that Grendo needs to
Speaker 1: be picked up even if let's say we get good
Speaker 1: news on Jordan Mason in the coming week and it
Speaker 1: seems like he's going to play in week seven, do
Speaker 1: you still think Garendo needs to be rostered even though
Speaker 1: in that scenario he's really a backup to a guy
Speaker 1: that's already you know, serving as a backup.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a workload in a Kyle Shanahan offense for running
Speaker 4: back is like a golden ticket. It is a willy
Speaker 4: want a golden ticket for fantasy. And you know, Isaac
Speaker 4: Garndo playing behind a guy who now probably isn't going
Speaker 4: to be healthy by next week. So yeah, I do
Speaker 4: think he's a priority AD. And I was entertained by
Speaker 4: Isaac Garendo being on Twitter today asking EA Sports not
Speaker 4: to give him, not to dock him in his speed
Speaker 4: rating because he chose to go down inside the five
Speaker 4: yard line.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I thought he chose to go down when I was
Speaker 1: watching that live, and then I saw some people on
Speaker 1: Twitter that were saying like the Seahawks were dumb for
Speaker 1: tackling him. I know the Seahawks did kind of dive
Speaker 1: whichever defender was and kind of bring him down a bit,
Speaker 1: but it looked to me like he was sliding on purpose.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did get tripped up, so it was a
Speaker 4: little vague and hard to tell, but to me, it
Speaker 4: looked like he kind of did take a dive inside
Speaker 4: the five and then they went on and scored the
Speaker 4: touchdown anyway, so you might as well just the end
Speaker 4: up exactly the question.
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 1: Fits on the Seahawks side. Kenneth Walker, somebody I was
Speaker 1: really high on in August. So I have a lot
Speaker 1: of places, you know, not the best running day fourteen
Speaker 1: for thirty two. He did get a touchdown, which helped.
Speaker 1: But I want to bring up the pass catching eight target.
Speaker 1: It's caught all eight of them, just thirty seven yards.
Speaker 1: But that is a real difference maker in PPR and
Speaker 1: half FPR leagues, and I saw I think it was
Speaker 1: rich Reebar friend of the show, was tweeting last night
Speaker 1: how it just really raises the floor and there's like
Speaker 1: a case for Walker as RB one rest of the season.
Speaker 1: I don't think he said he had him there, but
Speaker 1: like with pass catching like this, you can at least
Speaker 1: build that case for a guy like Walker. Do you
Speaker 1: feel the same way Fits just seeing the pass catching
Speaker 1: last night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pass catching add that to the mix with Kenneth Walker,
Speaker 4: to the explosiveness he gives you as a runner, and
Speaker 4: we are talking about a top five fantasy back, So
Speaker 4: very exciting what we saw from him in the passing game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, deep Row, did you think.
Speaker 3: I remember a time boys when people on Twitter said
Speaker 3: that Kenneth Walker didn't have hands and that he probably
Speaker 3: couldn't catch a football. So it's really nice to see
Speaker 3: the pass catching up side. I mean, honestly, this makes
Speaker 3: a matchup proof. You're telling me he's gonna get He's
Speaker 3: got eight targets in each of the last two games.
Speaker 3: He's had at least thirty six receiving yards in each
Speaker 3: last three games. Yeah, I mean, he's matchup proof regardless
Speaker 3: if he's not gonna get it done on the ground,
Speaker 3: and we've seen he can do that because he's one
Speaker 3: of the best rushing talents in the NFL. If he's
Speaker 3: not doing that, if he's getting this type of pass
Speaker 3: game usage. Right now, I've got him as RB four
Speaker 3: in my rest of season rankings, but I think the
Speaker 3: conversation for him starts at RB two. I think he's
Speaker 3: firmly in the same conversation as Breeze Hall and Derek
Speaker 3: Henry right now.
Speaker 1: Interesting game for the for the passing attack for Seattle
Speaker 1: because they had to throw a lot because they're trailing
Speaker 1: for most of the game. So Gino did get over
Speaker 1: three hundred yards, but it wasn't a good Geno day,
Speaker 1: and so a lot of receivers struggled because of that.
Speaker 1: You know, JSN.
Speaker 3: Metcalf getting a sixty yard touchdown white stupid penalty.
Speaker 1: That was DK Metcalf three catches on eleven targets just
Speaker 1: forty eight yards, and we missed out on a fifty
Speaker 1: yard touchdown on an irrelevant penalty.
Speaker 4: We also sign out on the short touchdown where his
Speaker 4: big toe was over the line. Man to day, if
Speaker 4: you were a DK Metcalf investor.
Speaker 3: Yeah that is over like me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we're worried about him long term,
Speaker 1: but that was unfortunate. But by the way, like I've
Speaker 1: been saying this for years, I don't think legal shift
Speaker 1: penalties should exist. I don't think legal formation penalties should exist.
Speaker 1: I think as long as the eleven guys are lining
Speaker 1: up on the right side of the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: I don't care where people stand, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it should be something that the NFL litigates. I've said
Speaker 1: that for a long time, and I said that especially
Speaker 1: so last night as a DK Metcalf manager.
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Speaker 2: Before we jump into.
Speaker 1: This week's questions, let's check in with Colin Coward and
Speaker 1: his over under picks for the Fantasy Over Under Challenge.
Speaker 1: Time now for the Week six Over Under Challenge. This
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Speaker 1: am joined by Colin Coward to talk through some of
Speaker 1: our favorite player picks for this week's slate. Hard to
Speaker 1: believe it's already Week six. The offseason weeks seem to
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Speaker 1: well by heading to fantasypros dot com Slash Challenge. All right, Colin,
Speaker 1: let's start, as always with the quarterbacks, and we'll start
Speaker 1: with CJ.
Speaker 5: Stroud.
Speaker 1: He's QB eleven so far in the season, seventeen fantasy
Speaker 1: points per game on DraftKings so far, has not finished
Speaker 1: higher than QB seven in any week. He's having one
Speaker 1: of those years to my eye, where when you watch him,
Speaker 1: he clearly has it right. We know he's good, but
Speaker 1: the box scored on aren't always there. Now he's facing
Speaker 1: a New England pass defense that's allowing just seven point
Speaker 1: six yards per attempt this season, seventh worst in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, what do you make of Stroud in this matchup?
Speaker 3: Do not like it?
Speaker 6: New England's played people tough. He doesn't have Nico Collins.
Speaker 6: It changes everything. He struggled without Joe Mixon. You know,
Speaker 6: you take this young quarterback, you put him on the road,
Speaker 6: you send him up north. I think I think New
Speaker 6: England's not a very good team. They may be the
Speaker 6: league's worst team, but they've got spirit. They fight. I
Speaker 6: think defensively they're pretty solid. I think Drake May is
Speaker 6: a better version than Jacoby Brissett at this point, a
Speaker 6: better option. I don't like this for CJ.
Speaker 2: Shroud.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask, do you think could you
Speaker 1: see the defense maybe kind of stepping up even more
Speaker 1: so and feeling galvanized by the quarterback change and getting
Speaker 1: kind of the young hot shot rookie in there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you see it with interim coaches. Watch
Speaker 6: the Jets play really inspired football against Buffalo.
Speaker 2: It's the substitute.
Speaker 6: Teacher rule where everybody loves the substitut you know they
Speaker 6: want to impress. My take is New England Drake May
Speaker 6: will play pretty well and the Jets will with the
Speaker 6: interim coach as well.
Speaker 2: The other quarterback. I wanted to hit on Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: Obviously, coming off of a huge game, He's just QB
Speaker 1: sixteen on the season on DraftKings. Scoring was QB one
Speaker 1: last week thirty five point four fantasy points. Obviously, throwing
Speaker 1: for five hundred yards helps a lot with the fantasy scoring.
Speaker 1: He now gets to go up against that Carolina pass defense.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this matchup for Cousins?
Speaker 6: Well, it's a divisional game and Kirk's coming off the
Speaker 6: best game of his career, so I think people are
Speaker 6: overvaluing the moment. Generally speaking, in division rivalry games, I
Speaker 6: would take the underdog, especially when the underdog is at home.
Speaker 6: So I think I think Carolina is a team that
Speaker 6: if they get healthy offensive lineman back watch out. They
Speaker 6: may go into this game undermanned up front. But I don't.
Speaker 6: I think Kirk Cousins by low sell High is not
Speaker 6: going to throw for five hundred yards. I think it's
Speaker 6: a bit of a sell here off that amazing Thursday
Speaker 6: night football performance.
Speaker 1: Let's look at some running backs here. Derrick Henry, the
Speaker 1: age of this wonder has been awesome. I was very
Speaker 1: aggressively drafting him in fantasy this year, just I loved
Speaker 1: the fit with the Ravens, and there were some people
Speaker 1: fading him given the age, but that has proven to
Speaker 1: be the incorrect thing to do. He's RB two on
Speaker 1: the season, over twenty fantasy points per game on DraftKings.
Speaker 1: He's now going up against this Commander's rush defense allowing
Speaker 1: over five yards per carry on the season, third worst
Speaker 1: in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Do you like Henry this week?
Speaker 6: I think Baltimore is the better team, and I think Washington.
Speaker 6: I really do buy Washington. But Lamar Jackson may have
Speaker 6: played his best game as a pro. So whenever a
Speaker 6: player does that, I think they scale back. And I
Speaker 6: also think they don't. They don't want to make Lamar vulnerable.
Speaker 6: This team's offensive line. I think they're gonna go back
Speaker 6: and forth this year. Lamar game, Derrick Henry game, Lamar game,
Speaker 6: Derrick Henry game. I think this is Dereck Henry game.
Speaker 6: So I think he'll flourish here.
Speaker 1: It's a good point because just in the last two weeks,
Speaker 1: you know, Week four, it was a Derek Henry game
Speaker 1: against Buffalo. Week five o Lamar Jackson game. So we
Speaker 1: think we're going back to the ground with the Ravens
Speaker 1: this week. The other running back I wanted to hit
Speaker 1: on Jamiir Gibbs at Dallas. He's RB nine on the season,
Speaker 1: fifteen Fantasy points per game. Facing a Dallas rush defense
Speaker 1: that has allowed six hundred and seventy five rushing yards
Speaker 1: so far the season, ninth worst in the NFL. We've
Speaker 1: seen them get run over a few times the season.
Speaker 1: Derek Henry was one of the running backs who has
Speaker 1: done that before. So do you like Gibbs And then
Speaker 1: also do you think this could be more of a
Speaker 1: David Montgomery game versus Gibbs coming out of the by
Speaker 1: or where we see more of a split like we've
Speaker 1: seen so far.
Speaker 6: Well, it's a big game because remember Detroit lost to
Speaker 6: Dallas on that kind of iffy officiating call, and then
Speaker 6: Dan Campbell sort of emotionally, he's a bit of a
Speaker 6: firework show, went for it. Probably shouldn't have. I think
Speaker 6: this is a big game for Detroit. You know, you
Speaker 6: play the Cowboys, and you know it used to be
Speaker 6: we only watched Detroit on Thanksgiving. This is gonna be
Speaker 6: the most watched game of the weekend. And I think
Speaker 6: the amazing thing about Jared Goff's perfect night was that
Speaker 6: he only threw eighteen times. I think Ben Johnson has
Speaker 6: figured out over the last two weeks what am I
Speaker 6: doing run the ball? So I like both backs to
Speaker 6: have good games. And I also think this is a
Speaker 6: team that is trying to establish an identity. I thought
Speaker 6: they were a little cute early. I think they're getting
Speaker 6: back to what they are physical now. I think they
Speaker 6: double down on that.
Speaker 1: A couple of wide receivers to wrap things up today.
Speaker 1: One of them in a game we've already hit on
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin going up against the Ravens on the other
Speaker 1: side of that one. He's wide receiver twenty four on
Speaker 1: DraftKings so far this season, possibly due for a breakout game.
Speaker 1: He does lead the Commanders in targets, catches, yards long
Speaker 1: as catch and receiving touchdowns, so he's been involved. He
Speaker 1: hasn't had that huge blow up quite yet. And this
Speaker 1: Baltimore pass defense has been got at times this year,
Speaker 1: you know, particularly last week. Joe Burrow looks amazing against them. Now,
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin might not be Jamar chasevil Good, but he's
Speaker 1: pretty good, and this defense has struggled against top level receivers.
Speaker 2: What do he expect from McLaurin this week?
Speaker 6: I think this is a lot of points. I think
Speaker 6: Baltimore's favored by almost a touchdown for a reason, but
Speaker 6: I still think Washington, even if they're in a losing cause,
Speaker 6: they're they're gonna flex. I mean, this has the classic
Speaker 6: backdoor cover feel where Baltimore is clearly the better team,
Speaker 6: but Washington outplayed a little bit, comes firing back until
Speaker 6: proven otherwise. I think Jaden Daniels, Terry McLaurin, and Washington
Speaker 6: are gonna score a lot of points. Now, Baltimore is
Speaker 6: gonna move the ball on this defense, but that's good
Speaker 6: because that means Washington gets more possessions and often more quickly.
Speaker 6: So I think this is a shootout, and I think
Speaker 6: McLaurin will flourish.
Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated by that matchup. I think it is
Speaker 1: the highest total of the week. It was last time
Speaker 1: I checked. And you know, stylistically, like the Ravens defense
Speaker 1: wants you to throw to the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: Jane Daniels likes to throw to the sideline. Plus, like
Speaker 1: I know, they're kind of downplaying the Daniels and Lamar,
Speaker 1: you know, similarities at least the quarterbacks are in press conferences.
Speaker 1: But you know Washington wants him to come out and
Speaker 1: have a good game, So I think they're gonna throw
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited to watch that one.
Speaker 1: The last wide receiver here, Stefan Diggs, also in a
Speaker 1: game he already hit on talking about Stroud. He's of
Speaker 1: course going up against the Patriots as well. Wide receiver
Speaker 1: fifteen a little over ten fantasy points per game on
Speaker 1: DraftKings this season.
Speaker 2: No Nico Collins.
Speaker 1: As he already mentioned, Tank Dell has struggled so far
Speaker 1: this year, so could this be a big Digs game.
Speaker 6: I don't think Houston's gonna move the ball much. The
Speaker 6: Texans are kind of a fascinating team. I think because
Speaker 6: we were so excited that we got another star quarterback
Speaker 6: that we all kind of fell in love with them.
Speaker 6: But they're still really young, and now they're young and
Speaker 6: beat up. I do think if Nico Collins doesn't play, However,
Speaker 6: I do think c J. Stroud believes he's going to
Speaker 6: develop this relationship. So I'm going to roll the dice
Speaker 6: here and say the one member of the Texans I
Speaker 6: think plays well is Stefan Diggs. I think c J.
Speaker 6: Stroud realizes if I'm going to beat Kansas City, if
Speaker 6: I'm going to beat Buffalo in the playoffs, if I'm
Speaker 6: going to beat these top AFC teams like Baltimore, We're
Speaker 6: going to have to have multiple weapons. And I think
Speaker 6: this is the classic. Hey, it could be. It could
Speaker 6: be a choppy, ugly game. I want to develop my
Speaker 6: relationship with Diggs, who I still like. By the way,
Speaker 6: I don't think he's disruptive. I think he's impatient. I
Speaker 6: think after about three years he's like Davonte Adams, he
Speaker 6: gets over it. But I don't think Davonte or Stefan
Speaker 6: Diggs are disruptive players. You know, I don't think they're
Speaker 6: too They're outspoken, but they're very, very good players. In
Speaker 6: the first two years they're at a place they're highly productive.
Speaker 6: So I think you'll have a good afternoon.
Speaker 1: I know you didn't necessarily say we got like over
Speaker 1: our skis on Strat or anything. I know we both
Speaker 1: like him. But do you think that maybe the shine's
Speaker 1: coming off? Bobby Slowan got a little bit just in
Speaker 1: talking about this offense.
Speaker 6: No, I think young quarterbacks are very reliant on run support.
Speaker 6: Look at Caleb Williams in the last two weeks when
Speaker 6: DeAndre Swift's had some crevices, it's like a different quarterback.
Speaker 6: His completion percentage last two weeks is seventy one percent.
Speaker 6: And I just think as good as c J.
Speaker 5: Stround was.
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes admitted the light went on year three. Crowd's terrific,
Speaker 6: but one of the reasons he was terrific. Laramie Tunzel,
Speaker 6: you know run game multiple receivers. Well, now you're taking
Speaker 6: Nko out, and now you're taking Joe Mixon out. Well,
Speaker 6: he's still a young quarterback. You can do that with Mahomes.
Speaker 6: Now you can do that with Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow.
Speaker 6: So I just think young quarterbacks need help. And I
Speaker 6: think Slowok's fine. Some are criticizing him, but I think
Speaker 6: Bobby's proven he can coach. I just think the kid
Speaker 6: needs more of his top stars.
Speaker 2: Thanks again for hopping on, Colin.
Speaker 1: Remember everybody to head to fantasypros dot com slash challenge
Speaker 1: to play along all season long. All right, guys, let's
Speaker 1: start off with the London game, which we have another
Speaker 1: one of this week, Another early fun start for the
Speaker 1: folks on the West Coast.
Speaker 2: This time it's Jaguars at Bears.
Speaker 1: Technically, you know, at Bears they are the home team,
Speaker 1: while it really should be the Jags. I guess, given
Speaker 1: how often they play in London. And I want to
Speaker 1: ask you, guys, which of these players, coming off of
Speaker 1: his best game of the season, is most likely to
Speaker 1: stay hot in Week six? Caleb Williams quarterback for the Bears,
Speaker 1: or take Bigsby running back for the Jaguars, Deebro, what
Speaker 1: do you think.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Caleb. If there's any get
Speaker 3: right alicks or in the NFL right now, it's either
Speaker 3: facing the Indianapolis Colts defense or facing the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3: And we're seeing more and more upside and better play
Speaker 3: out of Caleb Williams. So going against a pass defense
Speaker 3: that's allowed the second most passing yards per game and
Speaker 3: the most fantasy points via passing, Yeah, Caleb is knocking
Speaker 3: on the door of QB one rankings for me this week?
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? Fits? Where do you have
Speaker 2: them ranked?
Speaker 5: I do?
Speaker 4: I have Caleb rank QB twelve, So he's a low
Speaker 4: end QB one for me. And the Jaguars have given
Speaker 4: up the most fantasy points per game to opposing quarterbacks
Speaker 4: twenty three point one. They're giving up eight point one
Speaker 4: yards per attempt, and we've got Caleb probably feeling pretty
Speaker 4: good about things after his best performance I think to
Speaker 4: date this season, best fantasy performance. Also, like I like
Speaker 4: Tank Bigsby, so, but you know, like they're not going
Speaker 4: to marginalize Travis Etn He's going to have a role
Speaker 4: in this offense and It's not a bad matchup for
Speaker 4: Tank this week. It's not as if the Bears have
Speaker 4: been lights out against the run.
Speaker 5: But I do worry.
Speaker 4: About the possibility that Tank can be game scripted out
Speaker 4: in certain circumstances because he he did a twenty eight
Speaker 4: yard catch last week. That was his second catch in
Speaker 4: twenty two NFL games. He just we were just talking
Speaker 4: about the value that Kenneth Walker's pass catch and gives
Speaker 4: him no pass catching value really for Tank, and that
Speaker 4: makes his value fragile week to week. If the Jaguars,
Speaker 4: who have not been a good team, fall behind by
Speaker 4: multiple scores all of a sudden, you're looking at a
Speaker 4: scenario that's really bad for Tank because you don't know
Speaker 4: what he's going to get as far.
Speaker 5: As touches if the Jags fall behind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, I mean, it was the clear like
Speaker 1: outlier so far in the season last week for Tank,
Speaker 1: so you know he hasn't done it much. It was,
Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, kind of an outlier for
Speaker 1: Caleb as well. In terms of the final line. It
Speaker 1: was the first time he's finished inside the top twelve
Speaker 1: amongst quarterbacks was Week five. He's QB six. His next
Speaker 1: high is finished. Besides that was QB fourteen. Everything else
Speaker 1: is in the twenties or the thirties, so you know,
Speaker 1: it hasn't been this amazing fantasy start to the season,
Speaker 1: but you know, he's definitely I feel like he's anecdotally
Speaker 1: looking better. And by the way, the you know, the
Speaker 1: friendly matchups are going to continue. Caleb has a buy
Speaker 1: next week, but then after that is Washington, so he's
Speaker 1: in a really nice stretch of defenses that are really
Speaker 1: appealing for fantasy.
Speaker 2: Deebro, did you mention where do you have Tank ranked
Speaker 2: this week?
Speaker 3: I've got Tank. He was knocking on the door of
Speaker 3: RB two status, probably in the high RB three range.
Speaker 3: Where you at Tank pigs B I've got him an RB.
Speaker 3: I've got him an RB twenty nine right now, he's
Speaker 3: floating in that high end RB three range.
Speaker 2: That's about consensus.
Speaker 1: He's RB twenty seven in ECR but in that same
Speaker 1: kind of late twenties range. Let's go to the next
Speaker 1: question here, and this is just a super fun matchup.
Speaker 1: Commanders at Ravens, two of the most prolific offenses in
Speaker 1: football this season, both in terms of the actual scoring
Speaker 1: and in terms of some of the advanced stuff like
Speaker 1: with Dvoa. Like by any metric you look at, these
Speaker 1: are two of the best offenses in football. We're obviously
Speaker 1: expecting tons of scoring in this one. Most of the
Speaker 1: players in this game that we would ever be considering
Speaker 1: starters are pretty clear starters for fantasy. So I just
Speaker 1: want to kind of take a second to play Devil's
Speaker 1: Advocate and make you guys pick one player each to
Speaker 1: make the case to fade in fantasy this week relative
Speaker 1: to where they're ranking, even though we I know we're
Speaker 1: probably starting most of these guys fits. I'll start with
Speaker 1: you here, which one player are you playing Devil's Advocate
Speaker 1: for and fading this week?
Speaker 4: Well, gosh, the easy answer would be a Baltimore tight end, right, Like,
Speaker 4: that's not going too far out of line to fade
Speaker 4: a Baltimore tight end, And it would probably be Isaiah
Speaker 4: likely since he hasn't had more than three targets in
Speaker 4: a game since that huge Week one showing against the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: But uh no, worm, I Am not going to take
Speaker 4: the easy way out on this one. I'll give you
Speaker 4: a real answer. Like Terry McLaurin, he could smash against
Speaker 4: this Baltimore defense that has been really giving it up
Speaker 4: through the air. But he's only averaging seven point two
Speaker 4: targets a game, which is not a big number for
Speaker 4: a guy who is the number one receiver and the
Speaker 4: alpha on his team. Hasn't been a huge amount of
Speaker 4: passing volume for Washington, although they've been very efficient. And
Speaker 4: you know, like I know the Ravens have really given
Speaker 4: it up in the passing game, but like, I don't
Speaker 4: hate their outside cornerback duo of Marlon Humphrey and Brandon Stevens.
Speaker 5: I think those guys are pretty decent.
Speaker 4: And PFF has both of those guys graded as top
Speaker 4: forty cornerback. So theoretically, I could see a scenario where
Speaker 4: maybe Terry McLaurin just has sort of an okay game
Speaker 4: and doesn't smash. But and by the way, we're calling
Speaker 4: this the DMV matchup, is that right? I learned that
Speaker 4: from you on the Start Sit show the other day.
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean we're going to wait in a long line
Speaker 4: to watch this game. It just means, is what is
Speaker 4: DMV again?
Speaker 1: No, it's the geographical area around it. So it's like
Speaker 1: DC Maryland Virginia is like the most common wavy. There
Speaker 1: are people who will say that well, Baltimore doesn't count
Speaker 1: as a DMV. You have to be closer into DC.
Speaker 1: It's it's actually somewhat of a debatable definition, but it's
Speaker 1: roughly DC and the surrounding areas in Maryland and Virginia
Speaker 1: are known as as the DMV. I brought this up
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and ericsonafits are like, what the heck?
Speaker 3: I still I'm scratching my head over here.
Speaker 1: Like what I had forgotten that I was talking of
Speaker 1: you who didn't spend their whole lives in the DMV,
Speaker 1: and I just you know, used it off. And but
Speaker 1: that is what's referred to. It is not the Department
Speaker 1: of Motor Vehicles. That I can assure you.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I'm really interested by the McLaurin picked.
Speaker 1: So the Ravens, like the defense has been good against
Speaker 1: non elite receivers. It's been you know, we saw in
Speaker 1: the Buffalo game, right, like Buffalo is a good offense
Speaker 1: led by a superhuman quarterback. But they didn't have that
Speaker 1: like true alpha on the outside, and the Ravens were
Speaker 1: able to shut them down. The guys who have torched
Speaker 1: them were Rashi Rice in Week one and DeVante Adams
Speaker 1: in week two, and you know Brock Bowers as well.
Speaker 1: You know Jamar Chase t Higgins in week five, CD
Speaker 1: lamp to a degree in week three. So the question
Speaker 1: is is, like, does Terry McLaurin kind of rise to
Speaker 1: that level of receiver. I think he's really darn good.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's DeVante Adams or Jamar Chase, So
Speaker 1: I'm really curious to see how they do that. The
Speaker 1: other thing, too, is like the Ravens defense is built
Speaker 1: through the spine. Typically you did mention the outside corners,
Speaker 1: who I think are a little underrated fits, but like
Speaker 1: they want people to be thrown in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field too, and the commanders, like Jaye Daniels wants
Speaker 1: to throw, you know, down the sideline, Like he wants
Speaker 1: to throw to the outside more so than a lot
Speaker 1: of rookie quarterbacks do. So it's really kind of a
Speaker 1: fascinating like clash of styles. The Ravens, you know, and
Speaker 1: the Ravens on offense like to go through the middle
Speaker 1: of the field.
Speaker 2: You know, that's where Lamar is most comfortable.
Speaker 1: So two very different quarterbacks in that respect in terms
Speaker 1: of where on the field they like to throw deepro
Speaker 1: what do you expect out of both McLaurin and also
Speaker 1: who would be your fade.
Speaker 3: I think m lauren's gonna have a good game, But
Speaker 3: you know, I understand playing devil's advocate here because you know,
Speaker 3: we want to pick somebody that everybody's probably high on
Speaker 3: for this segment. And while I don't have the cold
Speaker 3: water to throw on McLaurin, I do have a guy
Speaker 3: to throw cold water on. I think the easy name
Speaker 3: here for is Brian Robinson. Considering the Ravens their their
Speaker 3: secondary has been bad. Their run defense remains elite. They're
Speaker 3: allowing the fewest rushing yards per game right now for
Speaker 3: the lowest explosive run rates. So Brian Robinson Junior for me,
Speaker 3: would be the low hanging fruit. But I'll bring them
Speaker 3: save Flowers here, considering I know the Commander's secondary is
Speaker 3: not amazing. They are playing better, But the case to
Speaker 3: be made against say Flowers is simply Baltimore runs it
Speaker 3: down their throat. Derrick Henry has a smash game. They
Speaker 3: don't have to throw a bunch. Washington might. But again
Speaker 3: that's the way that Zay Flowers. If he fails this week,
Speaker 3: it's because Lamar gets done on the ground, and so
Speaker 3: does Derrick Henry, and there's not much scoring, much less
Speaker 3: like negative game script to be had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point.
Speaker 1: If you look at these two teams, like both can
Speaker 1: throw the ball, both can run the ball, both are
Speaker 1: not great against the pass. The one unit that is
Speaker 1: kind of like really built to stop the other is
Speaker 1: the Ravens run defense. It's the one point where they're
Speaker 1: not kind of on the same level between these two
Speaker 1: teams right now, at least through five weeks. So I'm
Speaker 1: really curious toe how that pans out. We talked about
Speaker 1: this a bit on the Thursday show Debro, so I'm
Speaker 1: curious to get your opinion. You know, what the Commanders
Speaker 1: have done has been really like particularly in the running game.
Speaker 1: And obviously it's such a huge benefit to have a
Speaker 1: guy like Jayden Daniels that makes just everything easier in
Speaker 1: the running game. Do you think the Ravens defense, I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody has faced a mobile quarterback more than the Ravens
Speaker 1: defense have in practice in the last half dozen years.
Speaker 1: Do you think that gives them an advantage over a
Speaker 1: team like you know, the Commanders in a quarterback like
Speaker 1: Jayden and Daniels, not that they're the exact same player,
Speaker 1: but just they're not going to be shell shocked by
Speaker 1: seeing a quarterback who's crazy fast and crazy athletic because
Speaker 1: they see it every day.
Speaker 3: I think in the way of, like, you know, setting
Speaker 3: a QB spy handling the rushing utility, I believe so.
Speaker 3: But I also think there's something to be said. And
Speaker 3: I'm not tossing shade at Lamar here. I love Lamar,
Speaker 3: but I think there's something to be said also for
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels' ability as a passer. And if we want
Speaker 3: to talk about who the better passer is, I think
Speaker 3: you can make a case for Jade Daniels. So I
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of similarities there as far as
Speaker 3: the rushing utility. But I still think that there's a
Speaker 3: lot of differences there because I know it sounds like
Speaker 3: I'm being hyperbolic. I know Lamar's is a multip but
Speaker 3: we're not. We're not doing Devil's Advocate anymore. Okay, you
Speaker 3: don't need to make something up. I'm not making anything up. Man.
Speaker 3: Anybody push back against me. How does Jane Daniels not
Speaker 3: an amazing passer? And you can make the case he's
Speaker 3: a better passer than Lamar.
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels is really good. I don't think he's a
Speaker 2: better passor than Lamar.
Speaker 3: Well, of course you're not going to say it. I
Speaker 3: would like to hear.
Speaker 2: I'm allowed to have opinions. There you are, But are
Speaker 2: you allowed to have opinions.
Speaker 1: That are non pro ram But my opinion of that
Speaker 1: a rookie who's played five games is not a better
Speaker 1: passer than a two time NFL MVP.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's because of being a homer.
Speaker 1: But Daniels is really good. That's not to fake Daniels
Speaker 1: like he's he's he's better than I expected.
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 1: I will say that like full stop, like very definitively.
Speaker 1: This is a really fun game. Like I said, we're
Speaker 1: kind of fading just to paint the narrative, but like
Speaker 1: start everybody in this game. The total is fifty one
Speaker 1: and a half. Do you guys like the over of
Speaker 1: the under fits?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 4: I never like betting totals. I never go over with
Speaker 4: totals over fifty. Just too many ways for it to
Speaker 4: be short circuited. You know, someone goes in a long
Speaker 4: eighty r driving then fumbles at the three yard line,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, the over is looking horrible.
Speaker 4: So I just I tend not to bet any NFL
Speaker 4: game over if it's got a total fifty or higher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with it's a year. I think there are
Speaker 3: easy paths to this game scoring a lot and still
Speaker 3: hitting the under, and that just the easiest. The way
Speaker 3: that this game fails is just straight up from play volume.
Speaker 3: Washington's not running fast as an offense Baltimore. Look, if
Speaker 3: you give him a chance to slow down and run
Speaker 3: the ball with Derrick Henry, they will do that. So
Speaker 3: I think that's the easy path to an underhere.
Speaker 2: Life's too short to take the under.
Speaker 1: This is the most fun matchup of the week. It's
Speaker 1: the most fun quarterback matchup of the week. I don't
Speaker 1: care what the number is. Just take the over, because
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're sitting there and this is like
Speaker 1: a thirty eight to thirty five game on Sunday afternoon
Speaker 1: during the witching hour, you're gonna be kicking yourself, like
Speaker 1: obviously it is. He's the two best offenses in football
Speaker 1: to degree this season. All right, let's go to the
Speaker 1: next question. We went a little long on that one.
Speaker 1: Cardinals at Packers Doantavian Wicks fits he let everybody down
Speaker 1: in week five was the most popular kind of we
Speaker 1: have a wire pickups start right away, auto smash guy
Speaker 1: of the week didn't pan out or going back to
Speaker 1: that well in week six.
Speaker 5: It depends.
Speaker 4: Is Romeo Dobbs going to play and more important, is
Speaker 4: Christian Watson gonna play? It It sounds as if Dobbs
Speaker 4: will play, you know, suspended for a game after going
Speaker 4: a wall from practice a week ago. He is back
Speaker 4: at practice. Christian Watson also back at practice rather unexpected.
Speaker 4: Deebro and I were talking about this before the show.
Speaker 4: We both tend to think he's going to not come back.
Speaker 4: And even if Dobbs and Watson both play, Wicks is
Speaker 4: going to get some snaps, but he's probably not going
Speaker 4: to have the sort of snaphare he would have if
Speaker 4: Watson was out. The last two games, Wicks has played
Speaker 4: around seventy five percent seventy six percent of the offensive
Speaker 4: snaps when everyone is healthy for the Packers a wide receiver,
Speaker 4: he's been close sort of fifty percent, So that's kind
Speaker 4: of important, just you know, like more opportunities. Obviously, I've
Speaker 4: got him just inside the top thirty a wide receiver
Speaker 4: as of now, but if Watson plays, I'll probably have
Speaker 4: Wis closer to mid thirties late.
Speaker 5: Thirties in the wide receiver rankings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have this new tool, the are they Playing
Speaker 1: tool on Fantasy Pros. It does give a pretty decent
Speaker 1: chance for Christian Watson. That's just based on seeing limited
Speaker 1: practice both day, you know, Wednesday and Thursday. That's all
Speaker 1: the information we have as at the time we're recording this,
Speaker 1: So it gives it. It gives Watson about an eighty
Speaker 1: one percent chance of playing. I want to see what
Speaker 1: happens Friday before I kind of really operate under the
Speaker 1: assumption that Watson will be playing. I tend to lean
Speaker 1: towards him not Our tool does disagree with that, though, Deebra,
Speaker 1: what are you doing with Wis this weekend? And let's
Speaker 1: say let's assume that Watson doesn't play, because I think
Speaker 1: if Watson plays and Dobbs on the field, like I think,
Speaker 1: it's not.
Speaker 2: Really much of a question at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Agree, But let's let's assume that the pat is there
Speaker 1: again similar to the way it was in Week five.
Speaker 2: Are you starting to don Davian Wickx this way?
Speaker 3: I am starting Dontavian Wicks, and I agree with FITZI.
Speaker 3: I don't think Watson plays this week. I think the
Speaker 3: tool will project more in that direction. Considering the other
Speaker 3: part about it is, and this is, you know, the
Speaker 3: tool is built off of AI and the and the
Speaker 3: data and things like that. We also had to factor
Speaker 3: in that the Packers are conservative with injuries. So because
Speaker 3: he's practicing and stuff like that, things that you know
Speaker 3: can be captured and can't be captured. I do think
Speaker 3: the Green Bay usually leans a little bit more on
Speaker 3: the conservative side. So I think that Watson doesn't play.
Speaker 3: So looking at Wicks, I think this is the floplag game.
Speaker 3: I think this is the game that we thought we
Speaker 3: were getting last week with Dantavian Wicks, that we get
Speaker 3: it this week. And so right now I've got Dantavian
Speaker 3: Wicks as a mind wide receiver twenty four and rankings.
Speaker 3: I understand everybody got burned. The other thing about it
Speaker 3: is if he converts that what was it, FITZI, a
Speaker 3: fifty three yarder that maybe he takes for a touchdown.
Speaker 3: If he converts that last week, then everybody is singing
Speaker 3: praises and the Dantavian Wicks narrative is totally different. So
Speaker 3: one play making that big of a difference between everybody
Speaker 3: being like, Ah, yeah, why you told me to start
Speaker 3: him versus Oh, I'm so glad I started him. Yay,
Speaker 3: he had a good game. Like I'm not gonna push back,
Speaker 3: like I'm not gonna go too far in one direction
Speaker 3: about saying Wicks had a terrible game, because there were
Speaker 3: other factors that led to that game, ie the Rams
Speaker 3: changing up their entire cornerback rotation and then playing better
Speaker 3: because of it. So how we were projecting that game
Speaker 3: versus how it ran out is different, And there are
Speaker 3: some factors that even you know we're projecting. We're looking
Speaker 3: at numbers and stuff. Teams do things and change things up. Obviously,
Speaker 3: when you're a bottom three pass defense, you need to
Speaker 3: And looking at this match of this week, I don't
Speaker 3: care that the Cardinals can roll out whoever they want
Speaker 3: to at cornerback, pull a practice squad guy, take sign
Speaker 3: free eight, do whatever you want to. Even their current starters,
Speaker 3: none of them can hang with these Packers wide receivers.
Speaker 3: They're all not great. So I think this is the
Speaker 3: game this week for Wicks that we thought we were
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Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's go to Texans Patriots. The Drake
Speaker 1: May Era kicks off this Sunday. How does this impact
Speaker 1: the Patriots? For fantasy purposes? Is May himself playable if
Speaker 1: you're desperate?
Speaker 3: Debro May is not playable. And I know that people
Speaker 3: are gonna hate that. Like I just I can't say
Speaker 3: this clear enough. I cannot stand what the Patriots are
Speaker 3: doing to Drake May in this matchup. I cannot stand
Speaker 3: the fact that after five weeks and we have proven
Speaker 3: that the offense is not good enough, the scheme is
Speaker 3: not good enough, and the offensive line is not good
Speaker 3: enough to support a conducive environment for Ricky quarterback. After
Speaker 3: five weeks of proof, this is a bad team in
Speaker 3: a bad situation. This is the week that the Patriots
Speaker 3: decide they're going to start Drake May when they have
Speaker 3: fielded an offensive line that has allowed the second highest
Speaker 3: pressure rate and the sixth lowest time to pressure, and
Speaker 3: you face a Houston d line that is fourth and
Speaker 3: pressure rate. All I can say is good luck for
Speaker 3: Drake May. I'm sorry that the Patriots are doing this
Speaker 3: to you. I'm sorry to the fan base that this
Speaker 3: is happening. And this lowers the floor and ceiling for
Speaker 3: every skill player in this offense right now. And this
Speaker 3: is not a hate against Drake May. This is a
Speaker 3: terrible matchup and he is being put into a horrible situation.
Speaker 1: I fully agree. I love Drake May the player, and
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about his future. I do not understand
Speaker 1: picking this game as the one like it. Really, I'm
Speaker 1: not the first person to say this, but really just
Speaker 1: feel like they just kind of succumb to fan pressure that.
Speaker 3: Works out well for rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's a bad decision, Like I really,
Speaker 1: I really don't don't get it fits.
Speaker 2: What do you think is this scenario?
Speaker 1: Where are we downplaying like this is a really talented
Speaker 1: guy and maybe he does help some of these skilled
Speaker 1: players and make a move the needle at least on fantasy,
Speaker 1: even if not make them all superstars. Or are we
Speaker 1: just kind of fading everything here.
Speaker 4: I am not nearly as aggrieved about the decision to
Speaker 4: plug May into the lineup as you guys are. I
Speaker 4: know our friend Matt Harmon had a long rant about this,
Speaker 4: like there is no perfect time. I mean, you could
Speaker 4: give him an entire red shirt rookie year, but I
Speaker 4: don't think the Patriots were ever going to take the
Speaker 4: Packers plan on that the Packers always had Brett Farvar
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers to have the luxury of red shirting their
Speaker 4: rookie quarterback, and obviously with Jacoby Burssett, Patriots kind of
Speaker 4: want to speed up the timetable a little bit. As
Speaker 4: for starting him, I don't think it would be completely
Speaker 4: crazy to plug Drake May into your lineup, and in fact,
Speaker 4: in the Fantasy pros Content team league, I am going
Speaker 4: to be starting Drake May against the Welsh this week
Speaker 4: because I really cut corners at the quarterback position. Look,
Speaker 4: May's passing numbers against the Texans probably are not going
Speaker 4: to be pretty, and I agree like I do not
Speaker 4: want to start to Mario Douglas, Jalen poll, Can Hunter,
Speaker 4: Henry any pass catcher for the Patriots. But Drake May
Speaker 4: is a willing and able runner, and we saw that
Speaker 4: at the University of North Carolina, where in his two
Speaker 4: seasons as a starter, he averaged eleven point four rushing
Speaker 4: attempts per game and forty four point one rushing yards
Speaker 4: per game. And bear in mind that in the college game,
Speaker 4: sack yardage counts again a quarterback's rushing yardage, so he
Speaker 4: probably would have been up over fifty rushing yards a game.
Speaker 4: A rookie quarterback making his first start in the NFL
Speaker 4: is going to be confused by a lot of what
Speaker 4: he sees. Like he's gonna see coverages that just completely
Speaker 4: flummex him. Easiest thing for him to do is just
Speaker 4: tuck the ball away and run. And while it's highly
Speaker 4: doubtful that May is going to get two hundred passing
Speaker 4: yards in this game, I could see him going for
Speaker 4: forty or fifty rushing yards easily. And in fact, like
Speaker 4: I have hammered, hammered rushing overs on Drake May, if
Speaker 4: he rushes for like twelve yards, I'm gonna be eating
Speaker 4: Chef boyard out.
Speaker 5: Of the can on Monday morning. Boys.
Speaker 4: So but if it's a fifty yard rushing day for
Speaker 4: Drake May, Lobster Thermidor on Monday, you're gonna you're gonna.
Speaker 5: Get paid well done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I get I get your point about
Speaker 1: like there's no perfect time to do this. At the
Speaker 1: same time, I look in this three week stretch Miami, Houston, Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: why pick Houston? Like, if you wanted to start him
Speaker 1: right around this, you know, in this kind of first
Speaker 1: half of October, I'd much rather he started against Miami
Speaker 1: or Jacksonville than the Texans defense.
Speaker 2: I guess this is all my point.
Speaker 1: It just seems like a particularly difficult one going up
Speaker 1: against Amiko Ryans. But maybe I love the player, so
Speaker 1: maybe he will surprise and be good. I want to
Speaker 1: go to the next question because it's basically the same
Speaker 1: one the Spencer Rattler era kicks off this Sunday. How
Speaker 1: does this impact the Saints for fantasy purposes? Is Rattler
Speaker 1: himself playable if you're desperate? So basically the same question
Speaker 1: before a different rookie quarterback fits, I'll start with.
Speaker 2: You this time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm worried here, and I like Rattler and took
Speaker 4: him in a couple of Dynasty rookie drafts in the spring,
Speaker 4: but I think his debut could be pretty rough, even
Speaker 4: against a Buccaneers pass defense that was completely frickasied by
Speaker 4: the Atlanta Falcons the last time we saw them. Rattler
Speaker 4: did not probably did not get the same sort of
Speaker 4: reps in training camp Drake May would have gotten because
Speaker 4: Drake May was the clear and obvious succession plan in
Speaker 4: New England, whereas Rattler was, you know, kind of brought in.
Speaker 5: I think just.
Speaker 4: Basically to back up Derek Carr this year. So I
Speaker 4: have Rattler ranked QB twenty seven out of twenty eight
Speaker 4: starting quarterbacks, sorry A M.
Speaker 5: O'Connell.
Speaker 4: And I have Chris o Lave and Rashid Shaheed ranked
Speaker 4: his wide receiver fours this week. And I've I have
Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara like I'm docking him. I've got him outside
Speaker 4: the top five at running back. I'm just not optimistic
Speaker 4: about the Saints offense this week.
Speaker 1: Rattler did say that he wants to pepper Chris Lave
Speaker 1: with targets, which you know, the volume could be enough
Speaker 1: to keep a lot of higher than that, as long
Speaker 1: as the level of plays reaches at least a bare minimum.
Speaker 4: He's not doing seven on seven's in practice. Man, this
Speaker 4: is going to be a different story.
Speaker 2: They are.
Speaker 1: By the way, Drake may and Spencer Ratler are back
Speaker 1: to back in ECR QB twenty six and QB twenty seven,
Speaker 1: so they're both right there in our Fantasy Pro only
Speaker 1: our staff rankings. Bo Nicks separates the two goes May
Speaker 1: Nix then Rattler in QB twenty five, QB twenty six,
Speaker 1: QB twenty seven deeper. What do you think about Ratler
Speaker 1: in terms of what you expect that of him this
Speaker 1: week and what he could mean for guys like Shaheeda Lave.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna sound like the wet blanket for both
Speaker 3: these rookie quarterbacks. I just I don't really understand why
Speaker 3: you're starting Rattler over Jake Hayner, who is the backup
Speaker 3: last week and went into the game. It feels like
Speaker 3: a front office thing like I don't know why Jake
Speaker 3: Hayner doesn't get the start, but because again, like Rattler's
Speaker 3: probably had hardly any practice time, go back to training camp,
Speaker 3: working as the QB three on the roster, he's gotten
Speaker 3: no reps, and all of a sudden, like you're gonna
Speaker 3: give him what starter reps starting early this week and
Speaker 3: think that's gonna really catch him up and build rapport
Speaker 3: with these wide receivers. Now, I I it's rough man.
Speaker 3: I'm with FITZI on this one. And before kirk Cousins
Speaker 3: diced up this secondary, we have to understand that before
Speaker 3: that game, this secondary allowed the fourth lowest passer rating
Speaker 3: in CPOE and the fifth lowest arts per attempt. So
Speaker 3: kirk Cousins changing massively, changing the math there for how
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers pass defense looks for the entire season, as
Speaker 3: far as season long stats really has to get brought up.
Speaker 3: And Todd Bowles loves to blitz everybody eighth highest blitz rate.
Speaker 3: You're telling me he's not going to turn up the
Speaker 3: heat and blitz the ever loving crap out of Spencer
Speaker 3: Rattler behind a banged up offensive line. Again, this is
Speaker 3: if I'm the Bucks. You blitz the ever living hell
Speaker 3: out of him, You stop the run, and you force
Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler to beat you, and I don't see it happening.
Speaker 3: So yes, I'm with FITZI I'm dropping. Shaheed and o'
Speaker 3: lobby are going to be in that wide receiver three
Speaker 3: slash four area code. I think that both of them
Speaker 3: can get volume, but again we have to go back
Speaker 3: to the target quality that they're going to receive. I
Speaker 3: don't know if the volume is going to be enough
Speaker 3: to overcome that.
Speaker 5: Can I go ahead? Oh?
Speaker 4: Sorry, let me add one more thing about this game,
Speaker 4: like Taysom Hill dealing with fractured ribs. I know he's
Speaker 4: listed as questionable for this game. If he plays, I
Speaker 4: want to use him at TID because I think they
Speaker 4: will give him a lot of work if he is
Speaker 4: able to suit up for this one, like he would
Speaker 4: be inside my tight end one range if he plays.
Speaker 1: That's actually kind of along the lines with what I
Speaker 1: was going to follow up with, which is, what are
Speaker 1: you doing with just the running game in general for
Speaker 1: the Saints. Do you think that, you know, the Bucks
Speaker 1: defense is going to be so owned in on the
Speaker 1: running game that it's going to be very difficult for
Speaker 1: you know, guys like Kamara to do anything or are
Speaker 1: you still kind of ranking him because he's gonna be
Speaker 1: so much volume you'd think with a rookie quarterback in
Speaker 1: his first start.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm docking him.
Speaker 4: I've got him RB seven, but there's under no circumstances,
Speaker 4: am I sitting Alvin Camara?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: I Where where's he at? An worm? Because I can
Speaker 3: tell you I'm definitely gonna below consensus.
Speaker 5: He's like three or four.
Speaker 2: I want to go he's at four.
Speaker 3: We got him an RB ten right now. I think
Speaker 3: with the workload he still deserves, you know, And actually
Speaker 3: that's a little bit too kind to him. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: drop him the RB a lot.
Speaker 1: And by the way, we're giving him an eighty one
Speaker 1: percent chance to play on the are they playing tool
Speaker 1: with his hip injury limited practice on?
Speaker 3: In the rankings, I have Josh Jacobs. I have James
Speaker 3: Connor above him, and surprisingly enough because I know this
Speaker 3: will probably raise some eyebrows, but the matchup is awesome.
Speaker 3: I have Tony Pollard to head up in Kamara this week.
Speaker 1: I think that's justifiable given everything. I think you're right,
Speaker 1: it will raise eyebrows, but I can see the I
Speaker 1: can see the logic there. Let's go to the next question.
Speaker 1: Brown's at Eagles coming off the buy. It looks like,
Speaker 1: as of the last time I looked at practice reports,
Speaker 1: Philly was going to be getting back its top two
Speaker 1: receivers in AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith. Where are we
Speaker 1: ranking those guys plus Jalen Hurts with the Eagles returning
Speaker 1: something closer to full strength? I mean, I'm something we're
Speaker 1: starting them, obviously, but how aggressively are we ranking these
Speaker 1: guys in their first game back?
Speaker 3: Deepro Jalen Hurts is QB three, behind only Lamar and
Speaker 3: Jaydeon Daniels. I've got AJ Brown as a where are
Speaker 3: you at?
Speaker 2: AJ? Brown?
Speaker 3: I got them at wide receiver five for the week,
Speaker 3: and Devonte Smith is at tighten nineteen. I think the
Speaker 3: only player out of that passing game that I'm worried
Speaker 3: about are fading because of the matchup and both their
Speaker 3: star receivers being back this week is Dallas Goddard. So
Speaker 3: Goddart is probably going to be just because of the
Speaker 3: state of the position, a low end tightened one. But
Speaker 3: I'm not really high on his prospects this week. But
Speaker 3: all the rest of the guys, I mean, we shouldn't
Speaker 3: be scared of the Cleveland Brown's defense at this point.
Speaker 3: Their offense Kansas Saint drives, They're going to be out
Speaker 3: there a ton, Their cornerbacks are kind of banged up.
Speaker 3: I think this is a really good, sneaky, get right
Speaker 3: spot for the Philly offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would pretty much like to avoid Goddard if it's
Speaker 1: at all possible. Just whenever Brown and Smith are both
Speaker 1: on the field generally fits.
Speaker 2: What are you doing with the passing game? Kind of
Speaker 2: all systems go here?
Speaker 5: Yep, this as usual. Jalen Hurts QB three, A J.
Speaker 4: Brown wide receiver five and Devontai Smith wide receiver nineteen
Speaker 4: a perfect match with Debra. Did they still have that worm.
Speaker 4: Is that totally opaque reference for you? The newlywed game where.
Speaker 2: The translucent reference.
Speaker 1: I am satly aware of it, but it's I've never
Speaker 1: watched it.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, they the newlyweds had to match answers they
Speaker 4: what they were asked a series of questions do they
Speaker 4: know their spouses?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: You know, and like had to see if they match correctly.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been to like weddings and rehearsal
Speaker 1: dinners where they do variations of it between the couple
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Speaker 1: I I didn't really watch TV during the weekdays. I
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Speaker 1: be like a certain level of sick to skip school,
Speaker 1: and that level of sick was usually I was like
Speaker 1: falling asleep in my bed and passing out all day
Speaker 1: if I was there.
Speaker 3: So you never pulled the thermometer on the light bold
Speaker 3: trick form never know, No.
Speaker 2: I really liked it.
Speaker 1: I like never wanted to miss school, and if I did,
Speaker 1: it was because I was actually feeling really unwell. My
Speaker 1: dad's a teacher, so like that was just kind of
Speaker 1: ingrained in me. I guess, but I you know.
Speaker 2: You see your friends at school, like, I think school
Speaker 2: gets a batter. I think school's kind.
Speaker 3: Of your parents ran a very very efficient booth camp. Okay,
Speaker 3: you will be a sports media guide, you will go
Speaker 3: to school, and you will like it.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they still to this day understand what
Speaker 1: I do for a living. So maybe not the sportsman.
Speaker 3: Considering everything, like you you tweet.
Speaker 1: And talk about football and somebody actually pays you for it.
Speaker 1: This is like a side gig, right, Like, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is this is the job. Let's go to the
Speaker 1: next question here, Chargers at Broncos. Are the Chargers worth
Speaker 1: starting against what has been one of the best, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the best defense in the NFL so far the season,
Speaker 1: or any Chargers were starting in this one coming off
Speaker 1: there by debro JK.
Speaker 3: Dobbins ish, I just he's a flex play, a low
Speaker 3: end RB two probably, I mean really an RB three,
Speaker 3: but I mean he's in play only because of the volume,
Speaker 3: but outside of that, knew you're sitting all your chargers
Speaker 3: this week.
Speaker 2: What do you think fits?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Where am I going to give you credit?
Speaker 4: You were ahead of the curve on this a few
Speaker 4: weeks ago when you sort of recognize that the Broncos
Speaker 4: is having one of the best defenses in the NFL,
Speaker 4: and I was kind of I lightly pushed back and said, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: let's see a few more games before we declare that.
Speaker 4: I'm ready to declare that Vance Joseph has just done
Speaker 4: a fantastic job with this unit.
Speaker 5: But there are two chargers.
Speaker 4: I think I would be willing to start j Dobbins,
Speaker 4: and as Debro mentioned, purely volume play. I've got him
Speaker 4: RB eighteen. But yes, the Broncos ranks sixth in DVOA
Speaker 4: against the run and have a lot of the tenth
Speaker 4: fewest Fantasy points to running backs. But Dobbins has averaged
Speaker 4: seventeen point seven touches a game over his last three games,
Speaker 4: so that's a pretty safe volume floor to at least
Speaker 4: get him as in your lineup as a flexer a
Speaker 4: RB two, And then I would be willing to play
Speaker 4: Lad McConkie, Like if the Broncos have shut down cornerback
Speaker 4: Patrick certain Junior follow Quinton Johnston around, Justin Herbert might
Speaker 4: look to take advantage of the easier matchup, not necessarily
Speaker 4: an easy matchup, bit easier for McConkie against Broncos slot
Speaker 4: corner g Jikwan McMillan, who's yielding a seventy percent catch
Speaker 4: rate and zero point twenty seven Fantasy points per route
Speaker 4: into his coverage according to PFF.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Deebra, what do you think about Lad McConkie this week.
Speaker 1: I typically like rookie receivers coming off their bye week,
Speaker 1: you know, especially talented, like kind of high level rookie receivers,
Speaker 1: So that's appealing to me. What do you think about
Speaker 1: the matchup for McConkey.
Speaker 3: I think the matchup's fine. I think looking at McConkie,
Speaker 3: he's going to get the most volume out of any
Speaker 3: of these guys especially, and it's tough to know who
Speaker 3: that the Broncos are going to stick certain on. My
Speaker 3: guess would be Quentin Johnston, but again that's that's you know,
Speaker 3: they give Johnston enough respect, they might just not shadow
Speaker 3: anybody but you have to also. I mean, either way
Speaker 3: it goes, you're going to bump down both those guys
Speaker 3: because either Palmer or Johnston is going to get shadow
Speaker 3: coverage or at least have to deal with certain for
Speaker 3: half the game. So I do think the target volume
Speaker 3: is there for mconkey. So I mean it's a good call.
Speaker 2: Buff.
Speaker 3: It's like just straight up in a PPR league, He's
Speaker 3: going to get the volume if he scores, Bro, especially
Speaker 3: if they're a negative game script, then yeah, he could
Speaker 3: pay off.
Speaker 1: Let's go to that Lions Cowboys game I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta was tight end one in our expert consensus
Speaker 1: draft rankings this season. He's You've been tight end eighteen
Speaker 1: on a per game basis so far, and if you
Speaker 1: take out week one, it's even worse, tight end thirty
Speaker 1: one per game on the season since Week two. That's
Speaker 1: behind Mark Andrews. Even coming out of Detroit's bye week.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna finally see Sammy ballgame get going again? Deebro,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you as the Laporta guy.
Speaker 3: I could see an okay game for him. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's a smash spot for him. I mean, Dallas
Speaker 3: versus tight ends. Yeah, you could make a case. Okay,
Speaker 3: they've allowed or they're tied for the fourth most receiving touchdowns,
Speaker 3: but over the middle of the field that can easily
Speaker 3: be on on Ros Saint Brown time their sixteenth and
Speaker 3: yards per reception. I think it's an oka matchup, but
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a smash matchup. Like I think
Speaker 3: Laporta is probably somewhere in that mid to low end
Speaker 3: tight end one range this week, So I don't think
Speaker 3: this is like the get right spot for Sammy ballgame.
Speaker 1: One of our player debates debro on the Thursday show
Speaker 1: was Sam Laporta versus Tucker Kraft.
Speaker 2: Who would you like in that one?
Speaker 3: Geez, I'll take Craft in that one. But I think
Speaker 3: it's close. I think they're in the same area code.
Speaker 2: They're back to back in ECR tight end five and
Speaker 2: tight ends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I've got Craft as tight end five
Speaker 3: and I got Laporta's tight end six right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Fits.
Speaker 1: We talked a bit about this when we talked about
Speaker 1: Laportera versus Craft, but like even setting the Craft part
Speaker 1: of the equation aside, like, do you think this could
Speaker 1: be the week where we see Laporta get going again.
Speaker 4: I don't know, worm it's weird. He is averaging three
Speaker 4: point five targets a game and Laporta has not seen
Speaker 4: more than five targets in any game this season. A
Speaker 4: part of it is that Ben Johnson just wants to
Speaker 4: run the ball on people's throat this year. He is
Speaker 4: not messing around. And in the Lions three wins, they're
Speaker 4: three and one. In the three wins, they're only averaging
Speaker 4: twenty three pass attempts. So like, if they get a lead,
Speaker 4: they are running the ball. And they are road favorites
Speaker 4: against the Cowboys, so if they get a lead here,
Speaker 4: probably not going to see a lot of passing volume
Speaker 4: four GoF So as of now, I've got Laporter ranked
Speaker 4: higher than Craft. I've got him tight end five and
Speaker 4: Craft tight end six. I think I'm gonna flip flop
Speaker 4: those two.
Speaker 5: But who knows.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe the Cowboys will perk up Sam Laporta because
Speaker 4: when he faced the Cowboys last year he had a
Speaker 4: season high twelve targets, seven catches for eighty four yards.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, maybe he'll see that Dallas star
Speaker 4: and get fired up.
Speaker 3: The other factor here is if Dallas gets drawn bland
Speaker 3: back this week. I don't think that he plays in
Speaker 3: this game, but if he does play in this game,
Speaker 3: that also would push some volume to Sam Laporta in
Speaker 3: a wait. But because again avoiding the outside corners for Dallas,
Speaker 3: it blained his back.
Speaker 1: Do you think, Debro, that we've discussed enough in this
Speaker 1: first month of the season the disappointment Sam Laporta has been.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of conversation has been tight
Speaker 1: end is a disappointment. Oh, you shouldn't have gotten early
Speaker 1: on tight end because of guys like Mark Andrews and
Speaker 1: Kelsey and also Sam Laporta. I feel like there hasn't
Speaker 1: been like Laporta was number one tight end in most
Speaker 1: people's rankings. I know it wasn't for years u a
Speaker 1: Trade McBride, but in general he was the consensus tight
Speaker 1: end one like with a bullet, like by a mile.
Speaker 1: And he's he hasn't just been a disappointment relative to
Speaker 1: that standing. He's been downright bad again tight end thirty
Speaker 1: one since week two on a per game basis. So
Speaker 1: are we like kind of discussing enough what a level
Speaker 1: of disappointment? I mean, not that he's fallen off a
Speaker 1: Cliff in his career. He's still so young, it's only
Speaker 1: a second year player. But it's been really bad compared
Speaker 1: to what we expected.
Speaker 3: It has been, and I think some of the Sam
Speaker 3: Laporta as far as like the being the letdown, I
Speaker 3: think that has gotten lost in the conversation because I
Speaker 3: think all the spotlight, and deservedly so, I think instead
Speaker 3: of so much of the attention on Detroit being on
Speaker 3: Sam Laporta being a letdown for fantasy, I think instead
Speaker 3: of us talking about that and that being leading the conversation,
Speaker 3: we've been giving a lot more shine to Jamison Williams
Speaker 3: and his I mean, he's in the midst of a
Speaker 3: breakout season, so I think that it's it's twofold. I
Speaker 3: think the JMO breakout season is what has hurt Sam
Speaker 3: Laporta immensely. But also we haven't discussed that enough because
Speaker 3: we've been giving so much shine to Jamo. But honestly, rightfully.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Before we get to the key question for Sunday Nights matchup,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys about your Uber Eats
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Meals of the Week debro. What must Order
Speaker 1: food gets you reaching for your Uber Eats app for
Speaker 1: great game day deals. When you think of New York.
Speaker 3: I think Fitzie and I might be handholding on this one,
Speaker 3: but for good reason. It's the one oh one, dude.
Speaker 3: And I don't care if this is breakfast. I don't
Speaker 3: care if it's brinner. It's gotta be bagels, and it's
Speaker 3: gotta be cream cheese and smoke locks on. There's I mean,
Speaker 3: I think this is easy.
Speaker 4: Fitz Yeah, I mean a bagel with cream, cheese and
Speaker 4: locks from a New York deli is an A plus
Speaker 4: breakfast for sure, but also another a plus option from
Speaker 4: a New York deli. And my my dad's from New York.
Speaker 4: So I was introduced to this by my grandfather. The
Speaker 4: pastrami sandwich in a good New York deli. I mean,
Speaker 4: the first time I ever went into a deli with
Speaker 4: my grandpa ordered asami sandwich at his urging, I could
Speaker 4: hear angels singing.
Speaker 1: That's actually a great call, because I'm not a big
Speaker 1: pastrami guy, but I did. I went to Kat's Delicatessen
Speaker 1: when I was in New York many years ago, and
Speaker 1: you know, I had to go for kind of that
Speaker 1: classic pastami style and it.
Speaker 2: Was it was very good.
Speaker 1: I'm not a cream cheese and locks guy. I'm just
Speaker 1: a cream cheese and that's it guy on my bagels,
Speaker 1: which are good. But guys, the ANSWER's pizza. It's New
Speaker 1: York style pizza. It's it's far superior to Chicago style
Speaker 1: deep dish style pizza barely qualifies as pizza fits you
Speaker 1: are a Midwest guy, what's your take on New York
Speaker 1: versus Chicago pizza?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Well, New York pizza is amazing and like, there's no comparison.
Speaker 4: But look, the Chicago deep dish like that is trash.
Speaker 4: But Chicago tavern style thin crossed. Chicago tavern style thin
Speaker 4: cross is fantastic, but the dishes casts are all man.
Speaker 1: It's only the last couple of years I learned that
Speaker 1: there even is such a thing as like Detroit style pizza.
Speaker 2: Like all these Midwest cities have their own.
Speaker 4: Still, the sauce goes on top of the cheese. Detroit
Speaker 4: style is good. It's it's got a real like caramelized crust.
Speaker 4: It's actually really tasty. I will odd.
Speaker 3: Intrigued.
Speaker 5: We're going to be in Las Vegas early next year, Debro.
Speaker 4: I will take you to a place that serves some
Speaker 4: mean Detroit style pizza. You will be done done thanking
Speaker 4: me done.
Speaker 1: So there, there you have it. Our Uber Eats Sunday
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Speaker 1: reason we talked about New York it's Bengals at Giants.
Speaker 1: We did get word and it was kind of trending
Speaker 1: this direction anyway, but we got word during this recording
Speaker 1: Neighbors is going to miss another game with the concussion.
Speaker 1: So quickly before we get into my key question for
Speaker 1: the game, like the rest of season, are you guys
Speaker 1: starting to get a little concerned about just how long
Speaker 1: this is taking or once he's back, you know he'll
Speaker 1: be back and you're not gonna.
Speaker 2: Be worried at all.
Speaker 3: To you, bro, I'm not worried at all. I think
Speaker 3: the concussions and this kind of speaks to the severity
Speaker 3: of some Once these guys start ramping up, then you
Speaker 3: can kind of see symptoms kind of come back. I
Speaker 3: think this is more of Okay, he's out this week.
Speaker 3: I think that he returned to practice is good, so
Speaker 3: I project that he will be back for next week.
Speaker 3: So and again, this is kind of one of those
Speaker 3: things like once they clear concussion symptoms. I mean, guys
Speaker 3: are full ramped up, playing one hundred percent. So I'm
Speaker 3: not willing to kind of dock the resk of He's
Speaker 3: an outlook for elite neighbors right now.
Speaker 2: Same optimism fits.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Same.
Speaker 4: I'm bummed out about it because I have my Milik
Speaker 4: neighbors on a ton of teams. But I'm also not
Speaker 4: going to be the old man who gets mad at
Speaker 4: Melik neighbors for having gone to a Travis Scott concert
Speaker 4: the other night, and.
Speaker 5: Like, what's he doing? He's got a concussion, why is
Speaker 5: he going to concerts?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like, didn't expect him to miss two
Speaker 4: games after getting the concussion in a Thursday night game.
Speaker 4: But you know, hopefully we see him back in week seven.
Speaker 4: I think we will.
Speaker 1: It's it's like in Seinfeld, when Elaine sees David Putty,
Speaker 1: She's like, but I broke up with him, and Jerry's like,
Speaker 1: and yet he continues to live like, yo, oh, he
Speaker 1: had a concussion, and yet he continues to go out
Speaker 1: and lose.
Speaker 3: It's fine Steinfeld again. I don't know if I've ever
Speaker 3: heard of it.
Speaker 1: Can't do this again, Debra, we don't. We don't have
Speaker 1: time to correct you.
Speaker 2: And all your wrongness.
Speaker 1: The actual question I wanted to ask about the Giants.
Speaker 1: We had quite the coming out party for Tyro and
Speaker 1: Tracy Junior in Week five. The Bengals run defense did
Speaker 1: do pretty well against Derrick Henry all things considered, until
Speaker 1: that long run in overtime, but they pretty much bottled
Speaker 1: him up.
Speaker 2: You know, up until that point.
Speaker 1: Do we think Tracy can take advantage of what had
Speaker 1: been a pretty poor rush defense in the prior four
Speaker 1: weeks before that Week five performance against Henry deebro, what
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean either one of these I think Singletary is
Speaker 3: is trending the play and whoever is going to be
Speaker 3: the Giants starting running back, so Singletary's back, I think
Speaker 3: he gets the same roll back or if it's Tracy.
Speaker 3: Either one of these guys are going to be definitely
Speaker 3: a top twenty four play, but looking at my rankings
Speaker 3: right now, probably a top fifteen play because the matchup
Speaker 3: is fantastic, and yes, this really just comes down to it. Okay,
Speaker 3: right now, if you want to stop Baltimore, try to
Speaker 3: stop Baltimore, you stop the run. The Giants are passing
Speaker 3: the ball better than Baltimore is, and I think there's
Speaker 3: more to be said about, you know, the duplicity of
Speaker 3: that offense. So I'm not saying Daniel Jones is playing
Speaker 3: quarterback better than Lamar, but I think that there are
Speaker 3: more weapons or ways to try to stop or it's
Speaker 3: harder to stop the Giants right now.
Speaker 1: So you, like you, I think Singletary comes back because
Speaker 1: he is trending that way for sure. Eighty six percent
Speaker 1: chance to play on our Are they playing tool?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 1: You don't think like the kind of the cats out
Speaker 1: of the back with Tracy and like they're going to
Speaker 1: need to keep giving him more work.
Speaker 2: You think like it'll just go back to Singletary.
Speaker 3: I think it's I mean, it's a veteran who's played
Speaker 3: really really well as the starter. It's not like he
Speaker 3: was struggling. He has been good yet and I don't
Speaker 3: think that, you know, regardless of if you want to
Speaker 3: talk about Okay, a guy is not going to lose
Speaker 3: his job due to injury and coming back to this
Speaker 3: and he had to clear workhorse role. If he's healthy
Speaker 3: enough to play, I think he gets the roll back.
Speaker 2: Yep. What do you think about Tracy this week? Fits well?
Speaker 4: I mean I do think that after maybe Singletary was
Speaker 4: operating as sort of this like underrated workhorse early in
Speaker 4: the season, maybe now they do carveoute a role for
Speaker 4: Tyrone Tracy every week. And certainly they're not going to
Speaker 4: kick Singletary to the curb because he and Brian Dable
Speaker 4: have this long history going back to their days in
Speaker 4: Buffalo together. But I'm ranking Singletary RB twenty four and
Speaker 4: Tracy RB thirty eight, and I'm really excited by what
Speaker 4: we saw from Tyrone, Tracy and Deebro. I know he
Speaker 4: was a guy you liked a lot coming out of
Speaker 4: Purdue this year for a guy who only made the
Speaker 4: switch from wide receiver to running back a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago. Like he was decisive with his running last
Speaker 4: week in Seattle and also ran really powerfully, forced four
Speaker 4: missed tackles last week, had fifty six rushing yards after contact,
Speaker 4: and finished with forty seven rushing yards over expected in
Speaker 4: that game. According to Next gen stats, So really impressive performance.
Speaker 4: I do think he is going to have some sort
Speaker 4: of role going forward. And yeah, I'm pretty excited about
Speaker 4: what we saw from Tyrone Tracy last week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was definitely if you compared his college,
Speaker 3: that was the biggest or one of the biggest knocks
Speaker 3: that I had him about him as a prospect was
Speaker 3: he just looked like a guy who was still learning
Speaker 3: to adjust to the position, like trusting your blocks, following
Speaker 3: your blocks, the vision, things like that, and Dave Ball
Speaker 3: talked about that in the postgame presser. So we've really
Speaker 3: been working on him with again playing running back and
Speaker 3: so seeing not only as decisive as he was, but
Speaker 3: the vision improved for Tree, which that's what you want
Speaker 3: to see. Like he needs reps and he's gotten reps
Speaker 3: and they've worked on it a lot. So he was
Speaker 3: very impressive last week.
Speaker 1: We'll move to our final question here before we do,
Speaker 1: I do want credit for not taking the bait on
Speaker 1: Debro's ludicrous statement that the Giants passing game without Molik
Speaker 1: Neighbors is somehow more threatening than Baltimore's passing game.
Speaker 2: So I want credit that I didn't bring that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I quarterbacks, you know, going through dropbacks,
Speaker 3: going through progressions, doing more than you know, operating in
Speaker 3: a Todd Monkin screen only offense. I'll make that bet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how the Ravens beat the Bengals with screens only.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bill's at Jets.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has been either QB one or QB nineteen
Speaker 1: or lower in every week this season, no in between.
Speaker 1: Which Allen are we getting in Week six against a
Speaker 1: Jets defense that now has a new coach with.
Speaker 2: Robert Sala outfits.
Speaker 4: I'll start with you here, oh man, Josh Allen was
Speaker 4: so hard to rank this week. I initially slotted him
Speaker 4: like QB five or QB six, but now I've got
Speaker 4: him all the way down at QB nine. It's just
Speaker 4: he does not have enough weapons in the passing game
Speaker 4: right now. If Khalil shakirro doesn't play, and it looks
Speaker 4: like he's probably not gonna play, Dalton Kin Kate has
Speaker 4: been disappointing.
Speaker 5: Just isn't doing anything after the catch at all.
Speaker 4: It seems I would love to see Keon Coleman get
Speaker 4: more snaps out of the slot.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm begging for Keon Coleman big slot usage,
Speaker 4: and they're just lining him up outside and having him
Speaker 4: run this really limited rowtree, which is just disappointing to see.
Speaker 4: Then it's Mac Hollins, Curtis, Samuel Marquezveldez Scantling yuck. So
Speaker 4: plus it's a tough defensive matchup. I mean, we know
Speaker 4: the Jets have cornerbacks who can really cover, so Alan
Speaker 4: is going to have to do some damage as a
Speaker 4: runner to put up Fantasy numbers this week. You know, like,
Speaker 4: I think you're starting him, but man, my expectations are lowered.
Speaker 2: What do you think Debro again QB one or QB
Speaker 2: nineteen or worse?
Speaker 3: In every game I'm over here squeaking, as Fitz tells
Speaker 3: me is ranking because again we're we have not compared
Speaker 3: this and we have not talked about this prior, but
Speaker 3: we are hand holding. He is QB nine in my ranks,
Speaker 3: I think low end QB one.
Speaker 2: And you want to.
Speaker 3: Talk about weapons, and really, I mean it's multiple things.
Speaker 3: It's not only Okay, Shakir is banged up, probably doesn't play.
Speaker 3: It's the usage of this offense. James Cook is also
Speaker 3: banged up and maybe doesn't play. So you know, downgrading
Speaker 3: the weapons as well as a tough matchup as well
Speaker 3: as the way the Buffalo wins this game is by
Speaker 3: running the ball. So yes, Josh Allen and the legs
Speaker 3: and the rushing utility necessitates that he still remain at
Speaker 3: QB one, but I'm not high on his passings prospects
Speaker 3: this week. He really needs to get a rushing touchdown
Speaker 3: maybe two to probably still be a QB one this week.
Speaker 3: And that's I know that's tough for Bill's fans to hear,
Speaker 3: but it's the reality.
Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with quick where you are you making
Speaker 1: him rest of season? Not just for this week, but
Speaker 1: in your rest of season rankings. Josh Allen is QB
Speaker 1: what debro huh?
Speaker 3: Right now, I've got to make QB three. I like
Speaker 3: the only two guys I've got over him A Lamar
Speaker 3: and Jane Daniels. But I think like you can, you
Speaker 3: can make the case that Josh Allen could be a
Speaker 3: mid or low end QB. Like if you were to
Speaker 3: tell me he was QB seven or QB eight, and
Speaker 3: people's ranks and they had Jamen Hurt, c. J. Stroud,
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, Jordan Love just to name a few I
Speaker 3: wouldn't push back at all about that, so I think
Speaker 3: it's just it's fluid, you know. I think the other
Speaker 3: thing that we haven't discussed here is what if DeVante
Speaker 3: Adams gets traded at the Buffalo. I don't think we
Speaker 3: can truly rule that out, and I think that would
Speaker 3: change the the math here massively for Josh Allen rest
Speaker 3: of season.
Speaker 2: It's the same question rest of season for Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: I have him QB two right now, behind only Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4: But Jadan Daniels versus Josh Allen is a really interesting debate.
Speaker 4: And right now I'm giving Josh Allen. I'm practicing veteran
Speaker 4: deference here, but I don't know if that's the right call.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll wrap up there fun stuff today. Thank
Speaker 1: you everybody for tuning in for our Week six preview.
Speaker 1: Best of luck in your matchups this week. For fits
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