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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: studios in between games one and two of the NBA

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Speaker 2: Finals and also the NHL Final.

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Speaker 3: Final.

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Speaker 2: No, people have corrected me that on my updates, and

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Speaker 2: thank you because they're all been very kind as they

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Speaker 2: did it, seriously, seriously. That's how you know they're all

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Speaker 2: Canadian because they've all been very very kind. Wait, it's

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Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup Final. Yes, what I promise you. I've

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Speaker 2: been writing finals. No, no, no, it is the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup Final, and hockey is the Eastern Conference Final,

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Speaker 2: Western Conference Final. I know they play the same amount

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Speaker 2: of games in both sports, but it is definitely singular

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Speaker 2: in hockey.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, so they're adding used to words, but they're

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Speaker 4: taking the S off of this. I don't like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that Canada, That's exactly what is happening.

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Speaker 2: But I will say to the Canadian listeners that I've

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Speaker 2: corrected me. They always been like, yo, love you on

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Speaker 2: the air. Just wants you to know, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm from Louisiana. We ain't doing that around here. It

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Speaker 2: don't sound like that. That's the best I could do.

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Speaker 2: That's the best that I could do there, but I

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Speaker 2: do want to start and the other actually read this

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Speaker 2: article might have been in your outlet, The Athletic about

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Speaker 2: how the Canadian basketball fans we're having trouble trying to

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Speaker 2: get Bars to change the channel to the thunder Pacer series,

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Speaker 2: which has a significant amount of Canadians in said series,

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Speaker 2: with Jay Gilders, Alexander lou Dort, Benedict Mathern and I'm

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Speaker 2: Andrew Nemhart, right and right. So it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of Canada's finals. You talk about the international takeover.

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Speaker 2: Nobody talks about Canada, right, well, because they don't do

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Speaker 2: anything in the Olympics. And speaking of the Olympics, I

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Speaker 2: keep going back to this one moment because the entirety

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Speaker 2: of the summer, the conversation was, Oh my god, can

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Speaker 2: you believe that Jason Tatum is stable to the bench,

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Speaker 2: he can't get up. Coach Steve Kerr should be court marshall.

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Speaker 2: This is international crime that a guy who just won

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Speaker 2: the finals can't play. Yeah, right, that was you know,

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Speaker 2: and then he got to the point of it, was

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Speaker 2: it intentional or was it Steven Jason Tatum should be

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Speaker 2: disrespected by all of that. Right, they won the gold,

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Speaker 2: right they did, if I remember, But there was another

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Speaker 2: guy on that bench. There's another guy on that bench

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Speaker 2: right next to Jason Tatum that nobody seemed to give

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Speaker 2: a good dog on that he was there.

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Speaker 3: That was Tyreesh Halliburt. You know who is going.

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Speaker 2: Through the Eastern Conference Finals now back to back years

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Speaker 2: now in the NBA Finals. And the thing that I

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Speaker 2: think is the most fascinating of it all is in

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Speaker 2: that entirety of that conversation, nobody once said, unless you

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Speaker 2: live in Indiana, said well, Tyresh Halliburton isn't playing either.

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Speaker 3: It was all Jason Tatum, Jason tATu, Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 2: I say that because the NBA hierarchy at the time

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Speaker 2: had Jason Tatum several notches above Tyresh Haliburt, despite the

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Speaker 2: fact that both going to the Eastern Conference Finals that year.

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Speaker 4: So, but you agree with me on that one, Oh

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Speaker 2: Okay. So now we have seen Tyrese Haliburton have a

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Speaker 2: postseason that looks like he is playing the last two

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Speaker 2: minutes of the game on easy mode. How does that

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Speaker 2: change where you viewed him? Where you view him now

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Speaker 2: as opposed to where you viewed him.

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Speaker 4: Then it's interesting because the Pacers two years ago, right,

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Speaker 4: they traded for Halliburton, maybe three years ago, that's a right.

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Speaker 4: And two years ago they realized what they had with him,

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Speaker 4: and we knew he was a good player in Sacramento, right,

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Speaker 4: We knew he was a good.

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Speaker 2: Play three seasons in our four seasons and traded midway

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Speaker 2: through that and then three full seasons in Indiana, and

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Speaker 4: But after about a season and a half, they're like,

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Speaker 4: all right, we got to change our identity to this.

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Speaker 4: We are going to run Halle is going to direct this.

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Speaker 4: We're going to make sure we just run everybody out

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Speaker 4: of the gym. And that was gonna be their identity, right,

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Speaker 4: And so this is all based around Tyre's haliburt. Now,

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Speaker 4: you have plenty of teams that have a player and

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Speaker 4: the Hornets around LaMelo Ball and it doesn't matter. You're

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Speaker 4: the Hawks around Trey Young and it doesn't matter. This matters.

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Speaker 4: Hallie is that guy. I think he's a superstar.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have the commercials and all this stuff. Yet

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Speaker 4: he's got the personality for it. He trash talks, he's clutch,

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Speaker 4: he's got the stats for it. Like all right, you

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Speaker 4: his game. This dude is like the new Steve Nash,

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Speaker 4: Like that's what he is. And he doesn't turn the

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Speaker 4: Like he is having a run that you don't see,

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Speaker 4: You flat out don't see. And to me, if you

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Speaker 4: don't think he's a superstar, that's fine, I'm sorry. He

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Speaker 4: just beat your team. Like that's my reaction.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you on the point of superstar,

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Speaker 2: because I think that we get a lot of labels

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Speaker 2: that throw are not just throwing around. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: you threw that around lightly, but labels get thrown around.

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Speaker 3: It's all prisoner, It's all right now.

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Speaker 2: So how when you say superstar, how do you define

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Speaker 2: superstars in the NBA that he's given moment in time?

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Speaker 4: Is there accolade you have to achieve? How do you

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Speaker 4: define it? I think it's it's got to be a

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Speaker 4: few things, right, accolades matter. He's all NBA, he's all Star.

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Speaker 4: I think success matters. Let his team deep in the

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Speaker 4: playoffs last year, Let him to the finals this year.

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Speaker 2: They might win it.

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Speaker 4: You know, we got to figure that out, but they

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Speaker 4: might win it. I think, you know, accolades. On top

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Speaker 4: of that, No, he didn't play, but he was an Olympian.

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Speaker 4: He's got a gold medal. Sure, right on top of that,

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Speaker 4: Like it's performance. His stats are great, His you know,

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Speaker 4: his clutched stats are great. The narratives about him, the

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Speaker 4: the you know, he had that whole thing, which it

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Speaker 4: but like the whole overrated conversation, because thirteen players voted

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Speaker 4: him the most overrated player. So now we got to hammer.

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Speaker 2: That all the time.

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Speaker 3: It's an overrated story.

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Speaker 3: He gotta be here for the next three hours.

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Speaker 4: But you know, they like, he's got the stories for it,

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Speaker 4: he's got the attention for it. He's a trash talk

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Speaker 4: like they are all these things down the checklist. I

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Speaker 4: think the problem is he plays in Indiana, and that

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Speaker 2: Right because even last year it was and Jalen I

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Speaker 2: I hate to do this. I'm pretty sure it happened.

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Speaker 2: It might have been an AI thing, but I'm ninety

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Speaker 2: ninety sure that happened. It was a year ago, so

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Speaker 2: forgive me. But it was Jalen Brown essentially saying at

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Speaker 2: the end of the sweep last year that like, these

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Speaker 2: guys really pushed us. This did happen. Happened, Like they

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Speaker 2: and that was like, and I know it, it's kind

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Speaker 2: one of those four games were very competitive. But if

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Speaker 2: you can look back the box score, it says four

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Speaker 2: nothing Boston and Boston of course had gone on what's

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Speaker 2: on the process of going on what was then a

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Speaker 2: historic postseason run. So it gets lost in the sands

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Speaker 2: of time, but that that Patriers team was there that year,

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Speaker 2: and even I'll remember that crossing route that they ran

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Speaker 2: But in any event, I say, because I think that

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Speaker 2: one of the things that comes with the superstardom to

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Speaker 2: now this is not no sort of knock at all,

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Speaker 2: but this is a Tyre's Heliburton. If he continues on

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Speaker 2: this path, by this time next year, I will be saying, superstar.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I gotta see this again

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Speaker 2: think that when we had what superstars have to have

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Speaker 2: the wins behind it for me for that to be

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Speaker 2: a thing, Because I think you can make the argument

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Speaker 3: Is a superstar. I think he's a very good player.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think Tyre's Halliburn is what people thought Trey

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Speaker 2: I can I'm with you there, like I'm being the highestist,

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Speaker 2: But I'm watched him out of Oklahoma. They were calling

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Speaker 2: Tray Young really can't shoot from three.

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Speaker 4: He just a lot a lot from far and when

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Speaker 4: they go in it's let me say, he can't shoot.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't make a whole lot of them. Yeah three,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, like this is that. That's the thing. So

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Speaker 4: I would I would go, look, well, you can think

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Speaker 4: whatever you want about the NBA Cup. Since last year's

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Speaker 4: say that, you know, like he dominated that story. I

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Speaker 4: would say he has been the story of the postseason.

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Speaker 4: I'd say that as well. And so to me, you're right,

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Speaker 4: it's been at most a year and a half of this, right,

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Speaker 4: at most a year and a half of this. I

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Speaker 4: to stay. I have no doubts about that. I think

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Speaker 4: this is this is who he is, and this is

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Speaker 4: what they are, and this is the Pacers moving forward.

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Speaker 4: Especially with the way the Eastern Conference looks, with the

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Speaker 4: in the East moving forward. It's, you know, whether they

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Speaker 4: win this championship or not. Where I would say about

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Speaker 4: Halle is and I'm not saying he's the same player.

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Speaker 4: To me, it feels a lot like some of us,

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Speaker 4: myself included back in twenty thirteen. We're like, oh, Steph

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Speaker 4: Currz the greatest shooter of all time.

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Speaker 2: He're like, whoa hold.

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Speaker 4: On, we need a better resume, Like he hasn't been

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Speaker 4: doing that lot. I was like, Okay, we can wait

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Speaker 4: of our eyes adopter verse. Yeah, and it doesn't and

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Speaker 4: it's not a whole like hipster. I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 4: what we see in front of our eyes is not

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Speaker 4: a fluke. This guy is dominating a postseason, and not

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Speaker 4: just from play. From narrative. He had a horrible game one.

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Speaker 4: He was bad. He's the story because he hit that

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Speaker 4: clutch shot. And he hit that clutch shot and no one,

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Speaker 4: no one thought that wasn't going in. And everybody in

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Speaker 4: the in the building the second he got the ball, say,

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Speaker 4: misses that shot, they're down one. He gets the ball.

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Speaker 4: Every one in that building told me, oh that thing,

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Speaker 4: that place was nervous. They was the only time in

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Speaker 4: that game they were nervous.

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Speaker 2: And I mean I was watching the game in the

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Speaker 2: according to the reporting by Ramona Shelbourne, Tom Thibodeau was

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Speaker 2: And it's it's one of those you read it and

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Speaker 2: Right, but then TIB's getting fired ultimately an ishal moment.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, turn the ball of damn get

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Speaker 2: In the playoffs, but maybe they should have been playing

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Speaker 2: in Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: So you could play. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I'll say this, like I don't think Landry

435
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Speaker 4: Shammon's that good. I think he played over his head

436
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Speaker 4: and I don't think he should have got ready to

437
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Speaker 4: Delon Wright can hoop. He's a good veteran player, and

438
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Speaker 4: I do think they look he needs to utilize his

439
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Speaker 4: bench more. And it's funny we got like right before

440
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Speaker 4: the conference finals started, I remember seeing a lot of like, oh,

441
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Speaker 4: I thought Tibbs ran his team into the ground, they

442
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Speaker 4: can't make a deep run and all that, Like that's

443
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Speaker 4: what the conversation was, right, it was like justice for Tibbs.

444
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Speaker 4: And now it's like, oh no, see this is a problem,

445
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Speaker 4: Like we can't be this wishwash like about this, Like yeah,

446
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Speaker 4: it's it's crazy, and so like I'm with you on

447
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 4: all that stuff, like he needed to play his bench more.

448
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Speaker 4: I also don't think that bench is that good. So

449
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Speaker 4: it's it's kind of iffy there. So if you're going

450
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Speaker 4: to replace him, and the name, you know, Jason Kidd

451
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Speaker 4: is a name being thrown around today, like they may

452
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Speaker 4: try to interview Jason Kidd and they would have to

453
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Speaker 4: give compensation to Dallas if that all goes and if

454
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Speaker 4: Dallas agrees to and all this stuff, right, So there

455
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Speaker 4: is that possibility. But the main name that has been

456
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Speaker 4: there for over a month is Michael Malone, New York

457
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Speaker 4: guy rep by Cia, which we know matters to the Knicks,

458
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Speaker 4: matters a lot championship ring. Easy sell. Except here's my

459
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Speaker 4: problem with that one. He just got fired for the

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Speaker 4: same reasons you fired Tips.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Two, I don't think he's a better coach than Tips.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be real hard to run to throw the

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Speaker 2: body Yolkic play in New York.

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Speaker 4: It sure is. You can do it twice a year,

466
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Speaker 4: but that's not good for your team because he's on

467
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Speaker 4: the other team. So that's an issue. Three, Like, I

468
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Speaker 4: don't know what his system is because of what you

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Speaker 4: just said, Like you can you can run some of

470
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Speaker 4: that stuff with Cat, not a lot of it. You

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Speaker 4: can run some of that stuff with O G not

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Speaker 4: a lot of it. Like you can't run none of

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Speaker 4: that stuff with Cat. You can run the ribbleand off

474
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Speaker 4: stuff with them, all right, But that's I mean, but

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Speaker 4: that's like saying I don't even know what the example is.

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Speaker 4: That's like I say, you could do two plus two

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Speaker 4: but a calculus, yeah, you know, like but like some

478
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Speaker 4: of that stuff and like defensively, you know that thing

479
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Speaker 4: wasn't working and they have about the same level of

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Speaker 4: of defensive personnel. Is what is what Denver had, So

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Speaker 4: what's the upgrade there. It's just the pr of saying

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Speaker 4: we hired a championship coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's I don't it's oh great, you won

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Speaker 4: the press conference.

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Speaker 2: You could look at all the the when you know,

487
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Speaker 2: the offshore books put the odds up of who's the

488
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Speaker 2: next coach gonna be. I don't like any of those options, honestly,

489
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Speaker 2: like none of those alone.

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Speaker 4: I think Johnny Bryant is a really bright, good assistant coach.

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Speaker 4: I've I covered him in Utah for a little bit.

492
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Speaker 4: He is one of those next guys. I don't know

493
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Speaker 4: what he runs. I don't know what he's going to do.

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Speaker 4: I think he will be a good head coach someday.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that's gonna be ready. He might come

496
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Speaker 4: in and they win sixty five games. He might come

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Speaker 4: in and they don't make them. You know, they don't

498
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Speaker 4: make it past the playing tournament, Like I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the most fascinating differences between NBA and

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Speaker 2: NFL discourse, and we like you have a general idea

501
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Speaker 2: when the offensive coordinator is doing something crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, he's a great I know he's great

503
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Speaker 4: at talent development. I know he's a great development guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he runs, and I guess with

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Speaker 2: the Knicks, Yeah, I'm just thinking about it.

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Speaker 3: With the Knicks, those guys, a lot of them are

507
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Speaker 3: pretty established.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, though they do have I mean well to the

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Speaker 2: point you gotta get a.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Tyler Kolik or what those guys you know,

512
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Speaker 2: you hear their next beat rider, be like, if they

513
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Speaker 2: could just get one of them? Yeah, all right. Sure.

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Speaker 2: Most of the time, in sports and in life, history

515
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: is written by the winners. This championship makes me feel

516
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Speaker 2: like two instances where the loser actually was the bigger story.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into that in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: over to Steve de Seger for What's trending in the

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Speaker 6: Hello guys, and last Saturday night, the Fox Baseball game

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Speaker 6: was the Dodgers eighteen to two over the Yankees. In

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Speaker 6: the seven games since, LA has eighteen runs total. They

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Speaker 6: continue to leave men on base and lost two to

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Speaker 6: one at Saint lo today and Dodger pitcher Tony Gonsolin

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Speaker 6: goes on the injured list.

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Speaker 2: That is ten.

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Speaker 6: Starting pitchers on the IL for LA. Philadelphia first baseman

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Speaker 6: Bryce Harper went on the injured list with wrist inflammation.

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Speaker 6: Phillies have lost four straight now dropped a two to

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Speaker 6: one decision at Pittsburgh. The Padres are right now half

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Speaker 6: game behind the first place Dodgers in the NL West.

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Speaker 6: Giants are only one game back San Francisco, a three

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Speaker 6: to two winner over the Braves, who lost six straight.

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Speaker 6: The Padres are scoreless at the Brewers in the top

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Speaker 6: of the fourth. Most of the country on Fox seeing

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Speaker 6: a surprisingly high scoring game at Yankee Stadium. It's Boston six'

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Speaker 6: three over The yanks in the top of the fourth

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Speaker 6: And Garrett crochet is the starter and has six strikeouts

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Speaker 6: in three innings For. Boston Ryan yarbo has been great

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Speaker 6: in the rotation for The, yankees But yarborough's allowed six

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Speaker 6: runs eight hits in three and a third so. Far,

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Speaker 6: Earlier cincinnati Swept arizona beat him, twice first in ten

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Speaker 6: innings four to three completion Of friday's suspended, game and

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Speaker 6: then thirteen to one over The. Diamond The cubs And

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Speaker 6: jameson Ty o a six to one winner At. Detroit

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Speaker 6: toronto won its four straight, game five to four At.

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Speaker 6: Nothing At. Washington De gram six and Two White sox

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Speaker 6: four to one Over Kansas city in ten. Innings miami

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Speaker 6: ended a five game losing streak with an eleven to

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Speaker 6: men's Finalist Sunday Kentucky derby Winner sovereignty took The Belmont,

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Speaker 6: stakes beating runner Up Journalism. AGAIN us men's soccer lost

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Speaker 6: an exhibition Against turkey two to. ONE Nba Finals game

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Speaker 6: two Is Sunday Center Zach edy of The grizzlies will

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Speaker 6: reportedly miss the start of next.

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Speaker 2: Season he'll have ankle. Surgery back to, you Thanks Steve

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Speaker 2: Martin Wis And Zach harper comes to you live from

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Speaker 2: The Fox Sports radio. Studios and So zach won't talk

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Speaker 2: with THE Nba finals from kind of a historical lens,

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Speaker 2: here because we had so much time between the ends

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Speaker 2: of the conference finals and The finals that you got

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Speaker 2: to be able.

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Speaker 3: To try to find many different ways take it into.

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Speaker 2: It so prior to this and even still, now The

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma city thunder were prohibitive favorites to win this whole, thing,

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Speaker 2: right ninety seven hundred to win the finals prior To game,

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Speaker 2: one and it was up there with one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest favorites verse underdogs IN nba, history which reminded me

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Speaker 2: of another massive, upset the twenty eleven finals Where lebron

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Speaker 2: and The heatles were shut down BY Jj burray and somebody,

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Speaker 2: else Drk nowitzky and so, on and The dallas Average

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Speaker 2: Shawn stevenson exactly guarded and coached By Rick. Carlisle so

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Speaker 2: we remember that one for the choke Of lebron and

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Speaker 2: the rest of The heatles and so on and so.

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Speaker 2: Forth but it was also again if you look at

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Speaker 2: it from the winning side of things and extras And

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Speaker 2: oo's masterpiece to where you can Guard lebron with somebody

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Speaker 2: who's literally a damn near it's shorter than, him and

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Speaker 2: there'll be no, options, right and there'll be seemingly no.

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Speaker 3: Options and we see that happen to great.

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Speaker 2: Players and that's one of the marks Of lebron's career

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Speaker 2: that he was able to overcome that and then go

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Speaker 2: forth and have the career that he ended up.

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Speaker 3: Happening all, Right so leave that. There the other.

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Speaker 2: One after Watching game, ONE i was reminded again of

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Speaker 2: my favorite basketball player of all, Time happy birthday To

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Speaker 2: Bubba chuck stepping Over Tyron lou in THE Nba, finals

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Speaker 2: and who at that time Was Tyron lou who's now

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Speaker 2: but because at that time that is what he was known,

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Speaker 2: for and that finals and that, moment that moment of

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Speaker 2: irish since stepping Over Tyler, lou you will not see

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Speaker 2: AN Nba playoffs until the remainder until there is no

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Speaker 2: MORE nba without seeing a clip of. That that series

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Speaker 2: was an ass, Whooping, yes it sure. Was they that

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Speaker 2: step over moment was the last moment of happiness In

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Speaker 2: philadelphia in that, series another series kind of defined or

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Speaker 2: moment defined by the. Loser And so WHEN i Watched

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Speaker 2: Andrew nemhard do his, hes he, hes he pounds, Rabble

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Speaker 2: i'm just don't. You WHEN i Watched Andrew nemhard Put

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Speaker 2: Shake Gildas alexander in a bit of a blender hit

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Speaker 2: that step back, THREE i, thought wait a, minute, guys

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Speaker 2: because we just watched the game in Which Shake Gildas

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Speaker 2: alexander had damn it throw with thirty points on thirty.

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Speaker 3: Shots check, invisible J dubb.

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Speaker 2: Invisible, right all This thunder turning the, ball forcing turnovers

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Speaker 2: didn't matter because transition defense all of a sudden was

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Speaker 2: just in. Play, Yeah or was this, Like, yo you

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Speaker 2: just Watched Andrew nemhard Make house Of, highlights and you,

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Speaker 2: know if you just look at the box, score The

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Speaker 2: thunder just missed ninety eight layups this. Game this shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have been.

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Speaker 4: Close, YEAH i, mean because The thunder did everything in

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Speaker 4: that box score aside.

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Speaker 2: From the three point shooting and the. Rebounding they, dominated, right.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the more confounding things you'll.

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Speaker 2: See they.

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Speaker 4: Dominated and much like that that comeback against The knicks

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Speaker 4: In game. One it's, interesting like The thunder didn't just

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Speaker 4: like start missing every shot in that fourth. Quarter they

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Speaker 4: were scoring just they were trading three for, Two yeah for, one,

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Speaker 4: Right Like topping hit a, Three turner hit a, Three

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Speaker 4: three like you, know they were just. Executing Nie SMITH

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Speaker 4: i think hit a three at one. Point The pacers just.

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Speaker 4: Executing they were hitting from from three point range and

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Speaker 4: they hit a lot of corner, threes and so IT

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Speaker 4: i think it would be more towards The Dallas mavericks

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Speaker 4: twenty eleven one in terms of. Competition at the same,

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Speaker 4: Time denver won game one IN okc in the second

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Speaker 4: round and they got smoked by forty three points in

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Speaker 4: the second. Game, yeah now that game that did go,

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Speaker 4: Seven but we, know we know the under can, respond

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Speaker 4: AND i actually think a lot of their offense was

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Speaker 4: well executed aside from the shot. Making and as long

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00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: as you get good, SHOTS i think you have to

648
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: be comfortable in what you. Did it's WHY i don't

649
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: think you Saw shay, really you, know stressed in the postgame.

650
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: Interview you didn't See Mark deagnault stressed in the postgame

651
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 4: interview BECAUSE i think they were comfortable with what they

652
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: got in terms of the.

653
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: Shots it's just about.

654
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: Executing you have to trust your guys to eventually make the,

655
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: shots and SO i think from a game plan, standpoint

656
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: they don't have to change too. MUCH i didn't Like

657
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: i've been at odds with this with a couple of

658
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: people who are very smart about. BASKETBALL i didn't like

659
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: the lineup change to. START i thought that was a. Mistake,

660
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 4: okay other people have been, like that wasn't a.

661
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: Problem they started out the game.

662
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: Well to, ME i think you stick with your, identity

663
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: and your identity for most of this playoff run has

664
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 4: been we Started, hertenstein we Started. CHET i don't think

665
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: the matchups With indiana are so lopsided that you need

666
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: to conform to. THEM i think you need to play your,

667
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: basketball hammer them on the, boards hammer them, inside and

668
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: make them conform to.

669
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: YOU i would that's. EXACTLY i would have done that

670
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: the same.

671
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: Thing and IF i saw the game switch or shifting

672
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: in that, way Then i'm Working wildace in or sure

673
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: maybe more during the rotational. Period i'm having that conversation

674
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: with my big man A. Hartenstein you're gonna start, today

675
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: but it may be a little less than you've, expected

676
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: you know What i'm, saying a. Chat you, know you

677
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: might be out there by. Yourself you guys might be

678
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: out there By BUT i think it did throw Off chet's,

679
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: game as we've seen he was because he was a no,

680
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: show yeah uh in game, one AND i think a

681
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: lot of it had to do with because of the

682
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: fact he.

683
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: Didn't have his big Buddy hartenstein behind.

684
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: Him so Now chet's got to go from playing just

685
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: tall man the big, man and that's a lot Different

686
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: chet not you, know he pretty, tall but he ain't that, big.

687
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: Right and they were worried about him dealing With, sakam

688
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: which Sure siakam is a. Problem he's been great in

689
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 4: this postseason average twenty. Five last, series won The Eastern

690
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: Conference FINALS, mvp much to Tyres hellenburten's.

691
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 7: Surprise if you saw that video with him about to

692
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 7: get one of the, best that's what's so, Funny, like,

693
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 7: yes that could be a matchup problem for, him but

694
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 7: they have so much chemistry with him And hartstein on

695
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 7: the other end of the floor with their kind of, big, big.

696
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 2: You, know.

697
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: Passing i'd sacrifice that and have enough help Like siaka

698
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: puts on the.

699
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: Floor you got. Help SO i THINK i didn't necessarily

700
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: hate the line up, change, uh, schematically but emotionally and

701
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: mentally at that's what my problem. Is that's my. Problem

702
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: AND i think this we run into this sometimes when

703
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: you got the guys who play math versus the guys

704
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: who played, basketball because, okay see for all all of

705
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: the you, KNOW mvp and all of, that they play

706
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: math for, sure and that's they end up taking Like

707
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: boston takes twenty eight threes up.

708
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: Whatever you know What i'm, Saying, well this is what we, do,

709
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: Right AND i think like that.

710
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: One is more you couldn't account for what it meant

711
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: like watching them change, things especially when you've got a

712
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: massive underdog on the. ROAD i think you gotta look

713
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: Like Rick carlisle and that title was, like they're scared of, us,

714
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: absolutely you know What i'm, Saying, like that's what he,

715
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: Said they're.

716
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: Scared look at them changing what they. Do we're gonna

717
00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: go out there.

718
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: And make them feel, it and that's why it's why

719
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: it's a big. Look they weren't gonna be deterred by

720
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: a fifteen point deficit anyway in the fourth quarter based

721
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: on what they've been, doing but, man that shows You

722
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 4: like it reminded me of Another Dallas matters series two

723
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 4: thousand and, seven that first round series against The. Warriors,

724
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 4: yep they changed that lineup early on in that, series

725
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: maybe even the start game, one And Golden state New they're, like,

726
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 4: oh they're afraid of. Us we can bully this. Team

727
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: it's not bullying so, much but they know, That, hey

728
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: they're afraid to run with.

729
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: Us so let's do a sweet. Spot Because tim's got

730
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: fired in part by not using by not making these lineup.

731
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: Adjustments there's definitely a sweet, spot and you, know part

732
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: of hitting that sweet spot is what makes you a great.

733
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: Coach so coming up, next, though there's a quarterback competition

734
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: in The midwest that is almost going to be decided

735
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: before this feels, like before it even. Starts we'll get

736
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: to that just a. Minute martin Wyit Zach harper Five Sports.

737
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: Radio you're listening To Fox Sports Radio.

738
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: Radio coming to your live from The Fox sports radio

739
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: studios As Martin weiss And Zach, harper and we had

740
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: a troubling update in a quarterback competition as the news

741
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: broke On, friday And Anthony richardson was shuffering from soreness

742
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: in the shoulder that he had surgery on at twenty twenty.

743
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: Three i'm gonna Miss, hota he's gonna Miss Minnie. Camp

744
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: hopefully be back for training. Cam only, Problem, Zach he's

745
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: in the middle of a massive quarterback competition and this

746
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: is one of. Those, uh this is a. Competition there's

747
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: a fight between two kids with pool noodles here and.

748
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: Competition But Daniel jones just Shigned he's GOT i think

749
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: fourteen million guaranteed coming his way to be a member

750
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: of The napolis. Cult this might be over four it,

751
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: starts is it? Though, no It's Daniel, Jones.

752
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: Like, LOOK i recognize That Anthony richardson has not had

753
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 4: a good start to his.

754
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: Career, yes, RIGHT i don't think there's any seventeen games,

755
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: PLAYED i think in two seasons.

756
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: And that and not exactly killing. It when he has

757
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: played right it.

758
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: Has it hasn't looked.

759
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: Good BUT i am willing to go down with the ship.

760
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: HERE i think he's.

761
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: GOOD i think he needs to be healthy, obviously, SURE

762
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: i think he needs some.

763
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 2: REPS i think.

764
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 4: He's a good. QUARTERBACK i think he's got good. POTENTIAL

765
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: i think there's something there AND i think with the

766
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: right offensive line to, protect AND i think with the

767
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 4: right coaching to get everything with you, know organized and

768
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 4: moving forward and have weapons and, EVERYTHING i think there's

769
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 4: something there that at no, point even IF i thought

770
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: he didn't have the, POTENTIAL i think he has at

771
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 4: no point WHEN i look At Daniel jones Across that's

772
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 4: the way and, think, oh, oh his job's in. Trouble,

773
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 4: Now i'm with. YOU i do Think Daniel jones is

774
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: gonna win this job to start the. YEAR i think

775
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 4: all this is a, setback AND i, think, look anytime

776
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: it's your, shoulder that is.

777
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 3: Troubling absolutely that is the. Quarterback, yeah that is absolutely.

778
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: Troubling as long as he can get healthy at some

779
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: point early on in this, SEASON i think he will

780
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 4: take that job back because It's Daniel.

781
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: Jones, NOW i agree with you in THAT i don't

782
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: think That Daniel jones is the highest bar to. Clear

783
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: Anthony richardson has the lowest completion percentage since he's coming

784
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: to THE nfl the quarterback with the next lowest completion,

785
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: Percentage Daniel, Jones so there's not the competition is not. High,

786
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: AGAIN i say it's two cheduled pool, noodles not. EXACTLY

787
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: m sixteen's shooting right around the corner at each. Other.

788
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: Right i'm with you on. That there's something. There that's

789
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: why you get picked fourth in the. Draft there's a.

790
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: Lot there's something there for, sure SUPER i, mean built

791
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: like a house on terms right, now much better athlete than.

792
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: Quarterback SO i think in your for you to be,

793
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: Right Daniel jones has to win this job Because Anthony

794
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: richardson has to, learn in my, opinion get a better

795
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: handle on some of the fundamentals.

796
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 3: Of what being quarterback.

797
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: Is, Agreed, yes like you got to be able to

798
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: get those five yard out ten yard. Outs you cannot

799
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: have a sub fifty completion. PERCENTAGE i don't care how

800
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: good you are. Running you, know if you had a

801
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: sub fifty completion percentage and you're built like, that you know,

802
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: what they call you a tight, end, Right and maybe

803
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: that's the.

804
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: Answer you know What i'm.

805
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: Saying BUT i do think that for this to Work

806
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: Anthony richard needs to be on a practice squad to

807
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: be able to get as many reps as he. Can

808
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: AND i do think there's something. THERE i just don't

809
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: know if we'll ever be able to see. IT i

810
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: don't know if we'll AND i think that's a.

811
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: Concern like there was one number that he had that

812
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: was good last year in the time he. Played it

813
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: was yards per per, completion, right had really good yards per.

814
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 4: Completion AND i do like some that can be you,

815
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: know yards after catching. Everything BUT i do think like

816
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 4: he is someone who can make big. Plays but to your,

817
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: point sometimes you just need the easy place.

818
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: More often than. Not, yeah we're gonna need easy. Plays

819
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: But i'll say this About Anthony richardson that if he's

820
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: able to harness essentially what they saw coming out Of,

821
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: florida what we saw watching him At, florida because when

822
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: he put it all together At, florida it was not

823
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: a Like anthon Richards Big. Flord it's, like, oh this

824
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: is a. Project it Wasn't Will levis, right, right you

825
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: know What i'm, Saying like we was a. Project and

826
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: so if he could able to harness some of, THAT

827
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: i do think he's got the type of special athletic

828
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: ability that can raise you from average to. Great but

829
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: he's got to be able to get to average. First

830
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: Josh allen is that had a, slower a smaller hill to,

831
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: climb but he had to get to where he wasn't

832
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: making bone headed mistakes early in his. Career and you

833
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 2: see what came of it, Now Josh, ALLEN i THINK

834
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: i had it much, better as LIKE i, said much

835
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: smaller the mountain to. Climb Anthony, richardson to, me guy In,

836
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: indianapolis feels like if it's gonna happen for, him it's gonna.

837
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: Happen for him on a second. Team and you just

838
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: can't be made of. Glass that's the biggest.

839
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Problem you.

840
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 4: Can't you can't learn the fundamentals and do all these

841
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 4: things if you are getting hurt.

842
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: Constantly that's absolutely. True and, HONESTLY i think a sleeper

843
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: For Anthony richardson next. Year we're gonna talk about them

844
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: in their quarterback situation coming up next because it's the newest,

845
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: edition but a really old.

846
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: Guy you're listening To Fox Sports Radio.

847
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: Radio it's finally. Over thank, god the summer long saga

848
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: finally is finally. Done Martin wis And Zach harper coming

849
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: to you live from The Fox Sports radio studios on

850
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: A Fox sports A. Saturday Aaron rodgers finally flew Into

851
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: pittsburgh after many, delays signs a one, year thirteen point

852
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: six y five million dollar.

853
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 3: Contract it's going back to the number.

854
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: Eight something tells me That Terry bradshaw would not given

855
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: that twelve up if you just pay attention to anything

856
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: To Terry bradshaw has been, saying and To Aaron rodgers's,

857
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: word he said he'd played for ten. Million that ten

858
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 2: million is what's. Guaranteed he's got incentives up to nineteen

859
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: and a half, million and again he's wearing number. Eight

860
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: and the question that our esteem, Producer Ian roddy has

861
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: put on the sheet of paper is Does Aaron rodgers

862
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: move the needle In?

863
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh, zach what is your needle reading of The steelers

864
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: at this?

865
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: Moment this might be a dumb.

866
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 4: Question are we sure he is significantly better Than Russell

867
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 4: wilson at this?

868
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: Point you, KNOW i know the.

869
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: Repue obviously his career is way, better and obviously you

870
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: know what he used to be is way. Better and

871
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: he had a decent year for The. Jets he wasn't.

872
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 4: BAD i just want is he significantly better than What

873
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 4: Russell wilson was last?

874
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: YEAR i will SAY i think he's. Better the level

875
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: of significance to how much better is mitigated by the fact,

876
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: that like When Aaron rodgers news Broke Elon musk And

877
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: Donald trump got in a fight and it Became Aaron

878
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: rodgers just crying right, now like you know What i'm.

879
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: Saying so, like Is Aaron rodgers better at quarterback Than Russell?

880
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: Wilson, yes, yes, Yes but is it so much better

881
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: that you want to be in?

882
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: That you know WHAT i? Mean Like Russell wilson On

883
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: FRIDAY i cut the. Dound he was talking about how

884
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: y'all went out to dinner with the offensive lineman and

885
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks and he just wants to be a leader

886
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: in every. Room Aaron rodgers a week ago was you,

887
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't even get into.

888
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: It but he was Doing he wasn't doing.

889
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: That he was on some podcasts talking, about you know,

890
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: whatever the twenty twenty five version of Kem trail to Steel. Beams,

891
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: sure so is he? Better i'd say, Yes but AGAIN i,

892
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: said there's not that much more juice and that. Squeeze,

893
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: yeah and so all, right so he's. Better let's say

894
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: he plays the full, season which what is he forty? One,

895
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: yeah forty.

896
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: Two he's forty one right. Now, yeah he's.

897
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: Gonna turn forty two during the, season late in the Season.

898
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 4: DECEMBER i don't, know.

899
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: Man, like that's that's old like like that's you, know,

900
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: honestly you, know just knocked up when they're when When

901
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: Leslie man And Catherine heigeler going to the club and

902
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: they See Craig robinson there and she's eight months pregnant

903
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 2: and he, goes y'all just too old and she starts.

904
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 2: Crying she's, no, no, no you're not too old for the.

905
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: World you're just too old for this, club right air

906
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 2: forty two years. Old you gotta you gotta hope at

907
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: least forty more of, them, right, YEAH i. Hope so,

908
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: yeah but a little old in his.

909
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: Club but also ten, millions ten, millions so you know

910
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 4: up to nineteen if you know. Everything, yeah the incentives

911
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: look pretty. GOOD i, MEAN i think it's a good

912
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 4: signing if he's not a. Distraction it's a good. Signing

913
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 4: if he is at least as good as he was last.

914
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 4: Year it's a good signing if he's, healthy, Right, like

915
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 4: these are all good things for The steelers, team which

916
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: was still a pretty good team last, Year LIKE i

917
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 4: remember us talking, about like this was a pretty good

918
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 4: team made the, playoffs made the. PLAYOFFS i just don't,

919
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 4: know like in the in the hierarchy of THE, afc

920
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: will it be good enough to guarantee them the? Playoffs

921
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: which you can't really say that about a few, teams

922
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: right because because of where THE afc. Is but, LIKE

923
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: i think you make the signing, regardless because what was your?

924
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: ALTERNATIVE i think that's WHERE i land. On Aaron rodgers

925
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 4: has never been worse at quarterback than he has. Today,

926
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 4: Yes like this is the worst version Of Aaron rodgers

927
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 4: that you will get from age just do you? Know, kay,

928
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: whatever he'll never be worse than he is right, now

929
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call.

930
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: It so what is also true is that the worst

931
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: version Of Aaron rodgers THAT i can imagine is going

932
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: to be the best quarterback The steels.

933
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: Have had in like the last five, years.

934
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: Easily you know What i'm. Saying the worst version Of

935
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: Aaron RODGERS i can conjure up in my. Brain, now

936
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: maybe he'll come out and look Like Derek carthy and

937
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: maybe that'll. Be but the worst version THAT i can

938
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: physically actually imagine is still going to be the best

939
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Quarterback pittsburgh has had in the last at least.

940
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: Four, years because the alternatives Are Mason Rudolph, Stink Kirk.

941
00:45:54,360 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: Cousins, sure, Yuck i'm, uninterested you know What i'm, Saying

942
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: like every other option is a bad, one, Right Aaron,

943
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: rodgers to be, clear would not qualify as a good.

944
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: Option but in the land of bad, options he may

945
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 4: be the. Best, YEAH i think he's definitely the best

946
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: option of what's.

947
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: Left so to answer your question of moving the, needle he,

948
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: DOES i will say he. DOES i don't know if

949
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: it's for the good reasons Side that remains to be.

950
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: Seen the ratings definitely go, up But i'd say in

951
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: terms of moving the, NEEDLE i think that absolutely. Not

952
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: this is the same story that we're going to, see

953
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: AND i think the best case, scenario The disney movie

954
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: ending of, this, right the feel good story ending of

955
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 2: this is the Seven seedstealers walk into like the like

956
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: Two SEED i don't know, whoever and up the Two

957
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: Seed ravens and upset them won a playoff game and

958
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: get their heads pounded to them By buffalo Or Kansas

959
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: city in the next. Round Mike tomlin can Leave, Pittsburgh

960
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: Aaron rodgers can go off a playoff game. Winner that

961
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 2: to me is the absolute top of the tower ceiling

962
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: for this and everything else is in play beneath. That

963
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: so to move the, needle if winning a playoff game

964
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: loves your, needle WHICH i think everybody In pittsburgh would

965
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: have a resounding.

966
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: No do you Think Mike tomlin's excited about?

967
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: THIS i? DO i, do because here's the thing in

968
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: a situation that the way The Pittsburgh stealers have operated

969
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: for this long entirety of, time it feels Like Mike

970
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: tomlin has way more saying. THINGS i think that In,

971
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: pittsburgh and like in the, facility this was a much

972
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: more foregone conclusion than we assumed in the media that

973
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: like it was LIKE i think that they the way they,

974
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: moved they knew this was. Happening, Yeah and so there

975
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: was no. Urgency there was no urgency, elsewhere and so

976
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: there was more urgency In cleveland surrounding the quarterback conversation

977
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: than there was In. Pittsburgh all that chador to nineteen

978
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: At pittsburgh was a media, creation as we saw in

979
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: THE Nfl. Draft SO i think he's excited because there's

980
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: so so many moments and you go back through primetime

981
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: games and Where rogers was playing The, steelers Where tomlin

982
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: give him a wink And rogers give him a wink

983
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: AND i got you, THERE i got you. THERE i

984
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: think that they. HAVE i think That Aaron, rodgers which

985
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: is the most important part of all of, this besides

986
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: on the personality side of, THINGS i Think Aaron rodgers

987
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: has a.

988
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: Ton of respect For Mike.

989
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 2: Tomlin, yes AND i think over anything that, matters because

990
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: a Guy Aaron rodgers will not allow himself to be

991
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: coached by somebody doesn't.

992
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: Respect we've seen it happen In New. York we saw

993
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: it in the end In Green.

994
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: BAY i think he will be allowed himself to be

995
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: coached By tomlin and that matters a. Lot does he

996
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 2: have enough respect For Mike tomlin to be a distraction

997
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: that can't promise THAT.

998
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: I can't FROM i think he'll probably be doing mcafeel.

999
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 4: Because he also probably doesn't think he's he's being a, distraction,

1000
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 4: right there's a disconnect There.

1001
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah it's everybody else's fault that everybody cares about what

1002
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: he's talking. About that's really what it boys down. To

1003
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: we're all idiots for caring about What Aaron rodgers has to.

1004
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: Say didn't you know what THAT i agree with that

1005
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: we're on the same.

1006
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 8: Side, well, guys they're The steelers over under right. Now

1007
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 8: he said it eight and a half, wins, okay and

1008
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 8: that's actually the same as it was right before he.

1009
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 8: Signed So vegas is telling you they don't think he

1010
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 8: moves the.

1011
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: Needle he doesn't move the. Needle part of me THINK

1012
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 2: i think That vegas baked that. IN i think that's something.

1013
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: TOO i don't think that there was No there's no

1014
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: way in my like The vegas THAT i know is

1015
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: gonna have trouble even With tomlin's impeccable five hundred or

1016
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: better in twenty.

1017
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: Years Mason rudolph though.

1018
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 4: THERE i think in eight and a half wins With

1019
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: Mason rudolph and maybe Like.

1020
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: Mason rudolph could play four, games go two and, two

1021
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: but seventeen games And Mason rudolph come, on bro and

1022
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: whoever the backup is, again Like Skyler, THOMPSON i think

1023
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: The Styler, Thompson Will, HOWARD i, think, Right?

1024
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 5: Will?

1025
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah like that that is a five win quarterback

1026
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: room if they started any more than seven.

1027
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 8: Games so if their ceiling is say nine to ten,

1028
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 8: wins would you then say that it was worth it

1029
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 8: as a? Season like was the season? Successful or should

1030
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 8: they just be trying to tank at this point and

1031
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 8: try to get a?

1032
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i don't have skin in the. Game i'm not

1033
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: A Pittsburgh steelers. FAN i think it that would be.

1034
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: SUCCESSFUL i think that if you ask people who actually

1035
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: like Wore Pittsburgh steelers, jerseys they would say that would

1036
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: be yet another disauccessful.

1037
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: Signing you set us back a.

1038
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: Year it's the. Worst what do you? Think?

1039
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 4: YEAH i don't Think steelers fans will look at that as.

1040
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: SUCCESSFUL i think if, it if it feels better than last,

1041
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: year they'll be. Happier but, NO i Think steelers fans

1042
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 4: are are of the mindset like we should be competing for, championships.

1043
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 8: RIGHT i think they're probably pretty fed up with making

1044
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 8: the playoffs every, year just not doing anything when you make, it.

1045
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 4: Right but would they be happier not making the playoffs

1046
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: and just being kind of? Mediocre not saying happy.

1047
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: Not making the.

1048
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 8: Playoffs BUT i feel like if it sets you up

1049
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 8: for future success to where you can actually win a

1050
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 8: Super bowl in the near, FUTURE i think they'd be

1051
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 8: willing to take a down.

1052
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 4: Year this is WHERE i think you have to just

1053
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: bite the bullet and trade a bunch of future picks

1054
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 4: to go move up in the draft that, too not

1055
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 4: tank and just go do. That AND i get, it, like,

1056
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: oh you can't do. That you can't mess up your

1057
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 4: future and everything.

1058
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: You can go. Get you can go get picks. Now

1059
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: draft draft. Room what's what's the twitter? Against say it

1060
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: again at the draft. Room at the draft. Room this

1061
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: guy is he'll watch. This Caleb, johnson the running back For.

1062
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh tell me what's what's his? Deal just like as a,

1063
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 2: prospect as a prospect BECAUSE i have a further, point

1064
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: BUT i BUT i know that's who they took him

1065
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: in the third. Round.

1066
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 8: Here he's gonna be bodied, Runner he's got some lateral,

1067
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 8: agility he's uh hard to, tackle got some receiving upside

1068
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 8: out of the.

1069
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 2: Backfield SEE i LOVE i love the term receiving upside,

1070
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: Right so he might be able to catch. Right SO

1071
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: i say that because there's one team in THE, nfl

1072
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: to my, KNOWLEDGE i, think just one that lost their

1073
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: their leading pastor their leading receiver and the leading, rusher

1074
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh. STEELERS i think that they upgraded at each

1075
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: one of those. Positions they Lost Russell wilson Got Aaron. Rodgers,

1076
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: again slide, upgrade but but upgrading one the least you'll

1077
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 2: go viral more and that's maybe a, downside but upgrade

1078
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: none the. LESS Dk metcalf is better Than George. Picking, absolutely, YEAH,

1079
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: Dk he's just that's just flat to, me just flat

1080
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: out and think it's. Close And George pick is probably

1081
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: one of the most overrated players in THE.

1082
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 4: Nfl as someone who's had him on his fantasy team

1083
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 4: for a couple of, YEARS i can agree tremendous.

1084
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: Reputation far outstripped for actual. Production And Najie, harris to,

1085
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: me is is very.

1086
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 4: APT i think he is like your replacement levels starting

1087
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 4: Right johnson better than not.

1088
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: SO i think if you look at this, offense if

1089
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: the offensive line is, PASSABLE i think they improved at

1090
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: the number one in every. Position so but move the.

1091
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: Needle did they improve so much that it matters passed

1092
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: the wild card? Round not in my, opinion.

1093
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 4: Especially not With Kansas City, buffalo like you, said Even. Baltimore,

1094
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: like all, right best case, scenario they go out and

1095
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 4: beat one of those teams in the first round and

1096
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: then get smacked in the second round by another one

1097
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 4: of those. Teams, okay, MAYBE i mean maybe maybe if

1098
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: you're A steelers, fan it is That baltimore. Scenario, okay

1099
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: you Beat, baltimore you Beat Lamar, jackson you get smacked

1100
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 4: in the second round by Say. Buffalo maybe you're okay

1101
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 4: with that because you Beat. Baltimore, maybe BUT i think

1102
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 4: your instinct on that was probably more.

1103
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: Correct. Maybe you, know we know That knicks fans were

1104
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: not happy with This Conference finals. Appearance so much on

1105
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: the fire the. Coach what will it take for them

1106
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 2: to be happy next? Year and who's going to be

1107
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: the guy to lead that? Charge Rick? Brunson is that

1108
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: you father son coaching? DEAL i don't. Know nepotism runs

1109
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: rampant in these in these. Sports will outline some of

1110
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 2: the options coming up. Next Martin Weiss Is Zach. Harper

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00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio saturday comes to your live from The

1112
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: Fox Sports radio. Studios hit us with your two cents On.

1113
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: Twitter i'm At Martin weiss Zach is At Tall hoops

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00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: and the internationals players, ANTHEM i choose you by outcast

1115
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: playing right. Now it's exactly the opposite that happened at

1116
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: the exit interviews for The New York nicks With Tom.

1117
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 2: Tibodell it was a big. Party apparently most exit interviews

1118
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: are one on one one guy the star and the you,

1119
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: know the coach or general, manager and what'd you think

1120
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: happened this?

1121
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 3: One they had a whole bunch of people and they

1122
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: know what they, said.

1123
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: Throw them, out like the detergent With Tom, THIBODEAU i

1124
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: do not choose you the mode.

1125
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 3: Metaphors The knicks decided to.

1126
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: Move on From Tom. Thibodeau they're head, coach and this

1127
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: type of move that apparently, important according to the, reporting

1128
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: was happening whether or not things went you, KNOW i

1129
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,959
Speaker 2: put it like, this they probably would have to really

1130
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: go far to be able to, win for him to

1131
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: be able to keep his job on me by far

1132
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 2: like still playing, now they get they were pretty. Close

1133
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: But Draymond green said, this AND i thought about it a.

1134
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: Lot making the finals is not necessarily mean you are

1135
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: a finals worthy, team Right and like just because you,

1136
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: Won like you, know a lot of people will talk

1137
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: about how you look at The Western, conference Maybe, minnesota Maybe,

1138
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: denver maybe In Oklahoma, city all three better than you,

1139
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: know saying would have Beaten New york if they had

1140
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: gotten that. Far so you make this, move And i'll be,

1141
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: honest none of the guys that are immediately jumping to

1142
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: mind or interesting to me at all when you think of,

1143
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: this are any of these guys The, vogels The Mike,

1144
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: malones the.

1145
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: You name.

1146
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 3: Them i'm going to get the list in a.

1147
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 2: Moment any of these guys jumping out to you as

1148
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: potential options? HERE i, think like you, Know, Vogel.

1149
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 4: We've done this, before right With, Vogel, Pacers, Lakers. Sons

1150
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 4: he's a good defensive coach if you have good defensive. Personnel,

1151
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 4: OKAY i don't think he's much of an offensive, coach

1152
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 4: BUT i don't think they run much of an offensive system,

1153
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 4: anyway or want to like it's kind of a lot

1154
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 4: OF i run a little bit of pick and pop,

1155
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 4: here a little bit of a pick and, Roll but

1156
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 4: mostly this is gonna Be Jaylen brownson kind Of io

1157
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: and Or Iso cat or Will i Sow. Og you,

1158
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 4: know there's not a whole lot there in terms of system,

1159
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 4: Anyway SO i don't know that he, would you, know

1160
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 4: he'd be missing out on, much you, know with his.

1161
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: System Frank vogel right now sitting at eleven to one

1162
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: in terms of the. Odds these odds are Per bobada Sports.

1163
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: Books and, yeah who's Spors So Johnny bryant you talking

1164
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: about him, Earlier, yeah he's the favorite of plus two.

1165
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: Forty Kenny atkinson four to, One Mike budenholzer about nine

1166
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: and a half to.

1167
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: One, Well kenny's under, contract, Man, like that's. Crazy i'm

1168
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: just letting you know what the odds, are all right,

1169
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 4: there all?

1170
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: Right you Got budenholzer at nine and a, Half Patrick,

1171
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: ewings same, Story James, Rago Sam, cassel all of those

1172
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: nine and a half to one right now again Along Patrick,

1173
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: Ewing sam To.

1174
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 3: SELL i just said that, too all. Right Chris quinn

1175
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 3: fourteen to.

1176
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: One that's been a long time assist In miami who

1177
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: every single time a coaching vacancy opens, up he is

1178
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: on this. List Jay wright ON tv right, now Former

1179
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: villanova coach fourteen to.

1180
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: One Mark jackson off OF tv right.

1181
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: Now unless you watch that one commercial fourteen to, one

1182
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: and Then mike D'Antoni twenty to. One, now, so out

1183
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: of this, list does anybody here excite you at?

1184
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: All But rego's interesting because he's he's got a good offensive,

1185
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: system and he's a well respected.

1186
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: Assistant he got a little bit of a of a.

1187
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: TRY i think it was In. Charlotte it Wasn't, Charlotte,

1188
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 2: yeah and that was The charlotte team that you. Watched

1189
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: it were, terrible but every so often he'd be, like you,

1190
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: know third, quarter they're not that.

1191
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 4: Bad, yeah exactly like they they. Were they just didn't

1192
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: have a good, team right. Exactly so he was given

1193
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: a tough, job but he was someone he was in

1194
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 4: the running. For he was in the running for The

1195
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 4: cavs job last. Year he's he's he could be a

1196
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: really good. COACH i don't know if he's the type

1197
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: of guy though that would necessarily command that locker room

1198
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 4: the way that you would need him. To Johnny, brian

1199
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 4: AS i said, Earlier i'm intrigued BY i think he

1200
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 4: will be a good head, coach but, AGAIN i don't

1201
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 4: know if he's going to run things on either end

1202
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 4: of the. Floor, uh the way that they need it

1203
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i don't know what he's gonna.

1204
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: Run, Sure Jane wright's not gonna not gonna come coach The.

1205
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: NICK i don't Think Jay writ's job right now is

1206
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: so much easier than coaching The. Knicks and he gets

1207
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: paid not about the. Same but would you make that

1208
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: type of?

1209
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 3: Money, yeah he ain't doing.

1210
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: It did you?

1211
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 8: Guys see what he said when he was asked about?

1212
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: It, no what's?

1213
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 8: That he, Said, oh not another summer of?

1214
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: This.

1215
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 4: Exactly, ALSO i loved, when like earlier in the, week

1216
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 4: Uh Rick patino came out and said he recused, himself,

1217
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 4: like Oh liken't thank goodness That Rick patino's out of.

1218
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 4: There he wasn't gonna coach The necks?

1219
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: Anyway what is?

1220
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: This eighty?

1221
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: Nine that was the one who, said not another summer of?

1222
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: This Oh Dan, hurley should you know?

1223
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 8: What? Not?

1224
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: Right don't even get me, started because then he got

1225
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: with that contract, extension.

1226
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 4: The guy that just used The lakers to get the

1227
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 4: contract sentsion with you kind again second straight. Year that

1228
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 4: guy that Did, hurley the one who just cried about

1229
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 4: the transfer.

1230
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: Portal that's the. Problem he didn't win the championship this.

1231
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: Year we can't get. Enough that's what it. Is it's

1232
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: not another summer of a contract, extension just the, rumors no.

1233
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 4: Extension he saw that they weren't gonna win this, year

1234
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 4: and all of a, sudden it's like this transfer portal

1235
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 4: is out of.

1236
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: CONTROL i hate. This yeah here so, Yeah so to, me,

1237
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: Though i'm looking at this again in these odds or you,

1238
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: know they're obviously just out. HERE i don't know if

1239
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: the answer is even in. Here Sam coulsell intrigues. Me

1240
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: So sam is someone that like people respect as an assistant.

1241
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: Coach obviously was a really good, player, Exactly but he's

1242
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: interviewed a lot over the years and hasn't gotten a.

1243
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: Job and it makes me, wonder is he just one

1244
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: of the worst interviews for a coaching, position BECAUSE i

1245
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: would think by now he would have gotten a. Position

1246
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: he's been an assistant for a long time and.

1247
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 3: He's got do you think he has the? Cachet?

1248
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 4: Yeah LIKE i, mean and people regard him as a good.

1249
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 4: Assistant he's not just on a coaching. Staff he's regarded

1250
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 4: as a very good assistant.

1251
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 2: Coach hey he he says they interviewed for The lakers

1252
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: job at some point in. Time, yeah like he's he

1253
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: gets an interview every time there's one and open it

1254
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: seems like BECAUSE i mean he's got a lot of

1255
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: chips in the uh you, know it's what pelts on the. Wall,

1256
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: yeah one that you he was on The docs bench

1257
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: right when they won that. Championship he was On boston's

1258
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: bench last. Year he's got he's got a lot of.

1259
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 4: Experience he won two championships with With. Houston you, know

1260
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 4: it's a rookie in a in second year, Player LIKE i,

1261
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 4: mean he's he's and he was as cerebral a point

1262
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 4: guard as there is like HE i, mean he knew his.

1263
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 2: Stuff, yeah so that's that's the name that jumps out

1264
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 2: of me BECAUSE i do think, THAT i mean The Budenholzer,

1265
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: Vogel like at this point the shines off if there

1266
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: ever was a.

1267
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 4: Show and, like, LOOK i do Think budenholzer is a

1268
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 4: good regular season, coach but you have to get the

1269
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 4: players to buy into his.

1270
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: System that team's not buying into a. System Yeah i'm

1271
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: not buying that.

1272
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 3: Either and Then Chris, QUINN i don't, know that's another.

1273
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: Thing Like Johnny bryant regarded as a great assistant coach

1274
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 4: prospect of like that guy will be a guy don't

1275
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 4: know what he's gonna.

1276
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: Run so unless you're gonna like make a matchive swing

1277
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: for a guy who's already under. Contract, YEAH i think

1278
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 2: the idea That Sampy sell And Patrick greening had the

1279
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: Same Odorn SAINT i would be betting On Sam Paseel

1280
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: patrick Was knockingning out of this. Exactly that's What i'm,

1281
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: saying and maybe that's the answer that none of these

1282
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: guys are getting this job. Right there has been some

1283
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 2: reporting about guys who are already under contract who were

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01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: not Named Kenny. Atkinson we will get to that coming

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01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: up in just the, moment but First steve De seger

1286
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 2: will update us on everything going on in the world of.

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 3: Sports, steve you're.

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01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: Up hello.

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01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 6: AGAIN Nba Finals game two Is sunday With indiana At Oklahoma.

1290
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 6: City The pacers came back to take the. Opener by the,

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01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 6: Way indiana is in the finals for the first time

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 6: since two. Thousand Guard Tyrese haliburton was born in two thousand.

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01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 6: THREE wnba games for This, Saturday Golden state expansion team

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01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 6: Beat Las vegas easily ninety five sixty. Eight there's An

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01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 6: indiana At chicago game On NETWORK. Tv Caitlin clark still

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01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 6: out with a string quad for What it's, Worth indiana

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01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 6: fifty seven to thirty five At chicago late in the.

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01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 6: Third seattle At phoenix. Tonight pagebackers Of dallas is probable For.

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01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 6: Sunday she cleared concussion. Protocol her team is one and.

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01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 6: Eight the NHL's coach of The year Is Washington Spencer.

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01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,439
Speaker 6: Carbury THE Nhl awards will be held just Before game.

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01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 6: Four Stanley. Cup game three Is monday, Night edmonton At.

1303
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 6: Florida series tied at game. Apiece The steelers officially signed

1304
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 6: Quarterback Aaron. RODGERS a reminder of the UFL's conference finals

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01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 6: here On, sunday including On FOX TV dc At Saint.

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01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 6: Louis live golf return this week in At. Virginia Bubba

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01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 6: watson is two, back tied for. Second Ryan fox Of

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01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 6: New zealand is tied for the one stroke lead at

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01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 6: The Canadian. Open THE Us open is next week At, Oakmont.

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01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 6: Pennsylvania The Kentucky derby Winner, sovereignty took The Belmont stakes

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01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 6: In New york, today beating runner Up journalism. Again Coco

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01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 6: golf won The French open beating number One Arena sabolenca

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01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 6: in three, sets six. Four in the, THIRD us men's

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Speaker 6: soccer lost an exhibition In connecticut two to one Against.

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01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 6: Turkey In College Baseball Super, Regionals Coastal carolina Eliminated auburn

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01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 6: four to one after a tenanting victory over a Late

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01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 6: friday two wins today In cincinnati for The, reds they

1318
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 6: completed a suspended game From friday and Beat arizona in

1319
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 6: ten innings four to. Three then it Was cincinnati thirteen

1320
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 6: to one over The. Diamondbacks currently In Major League baseball

1321
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 6: On FOX. Tv for most of the, country it's still

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01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 6: The Red sox leading At Yankee stadium eight five in

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01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 6: the bottom of the. Six the eight runs came Off

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01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 6: New york Starter Ryan, yarborough who lasted four. Innings padres

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01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 6: still lead At milwaukee won nothing in the top of the.

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01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 6: Seventh The dodgers lost. Again Saint louis beat him two to,

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Speaker 6: one and Pitcher Tony gonsolin goes on THE. Il San

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01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 6: francisco's won four. Straight The giants won three to two Over.

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01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 6: Atlanta The braves have lost six in a. Row victories

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01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 6: For pittsburgh And. Toronto The cubs won six to one At, Detroit,

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01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 6: texas And jacob De grom won five nothing At. Washington

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01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 6: ten inning wins For houston and For, miami which won

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01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 6: eleven to ten in ten At Tampa, bay and The

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 6: White sox were winners for to one Over Kansas.

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Speaker 2: City back to, you coming to you live from he

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1345
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: Okay so When Kenny, atkinson like we talked about The

1346
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: New York knicks head coach under contract currently and as

1347
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: we as a reporter came, out you heard the Email

1348
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 2: udoka also under? Contract how much to do you? Know

1349
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: how much do time change for your? Boy? Email after

1350
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: just what a few years? Ago he was.

1351
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 3: Radio active? Waste then he goes To houston and three, Seed,

1352
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 3: hey you might want to come down. Anyway so he's

1353
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 3: on the.

1354
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: List Jason kidd is on the, list and the one

1355
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: that perked my name our ears immediately Was Jason. Kidd

1356
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: and not even a two pie in the sky with

1357
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: who they Might New york might acquire anything of that.

1358
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: Nature there's too many aprons. INVOLVED i barely. COOK i

1359
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: don't know anything about. It So i'm just gonna deal

1360
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 2: with the roster that they currently. Have If I'm Jason

1361
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: kidd and you tell, ME i could go To New

1362
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 2: york and Leave, dallas tell me If i'm off on,

1363
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: this BUT i Think i'll be on the first name

1364
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: Smoking i'm.

1365
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 4: Gone so the drawback is that that media and that

1366
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 4: pressure is. Real sure that is that is, tough and

1367
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 4: it's not That Jason kidd would be afraid of. It

1368
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 4: it's just there's a hassle in dealing with that that

1369
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 4: is not there In. Dallas at the same, time he

1370
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 4: is currently tied To Nico, harrison and whether it is

1371
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 4: his fault or, not there are a lot of people

1372
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 4: In dallas that think that he is a big part

1373
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 4: of that That luca.

1374
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: Trade and there at the point that the Slim. Charles

1375
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 2: if it's a, lie we're gonna fight on that lie.

1376
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: Exactly it doesn't matter.

1377
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 4: Exactly and so, again whether that's true or, not that

1378
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 4: is there are enough people that, there and especially in

1379
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 4: terms of the fan base WHERE i, like it wouldn't

1380
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 4: shock me if he doesn't want to be tied to,

1381
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 4: that you, know and so if he, decided you, know

1382
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 4: if he talks to The knicks and he, decides, yeah

1383
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 4: you know WHAT i, Do, LIKE i do want to

1384
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 4: Coach Jalen brunson, again this version Of Jalen. Brunson, Absolutely,

1385
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 4: YEAH i can do some things with this. TEAM i

1386
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 4: managed a good enough defense With luca in the, mix

1387
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 4: LIKE i. CAN i can make something work. HERE i

1388
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 4: do think he's a good. COACH i think he's become

1389
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 4: a good. COACH i think that, stint that short stint

1390
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 4: with The lakers as an assistant really helped turn things.

1391
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: AROUND i think he's done a good job In. Dallas

1392
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 4: it's not just that they made the. FINALS i think

1393
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 4: he's legitimately done a good job with like adjustments and defensive,

1394
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 4: stuff and you, know when given the right, PERSONNEL i

1395
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: think their offense has been pretty. Solid, LIKE i don't

1396
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 4: think he's a great. COACH i think he's a good

1397
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 4: coach there and and when he was In, brooklyn when

1398
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 4: he's In milwaukee was not a GOOD i think. Too

1399
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 4: some of that was maturity is the wrong.

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01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 2: Term but to your point about The lakers, STINT i

1401
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: think it also really helped him to go To dallas

1402
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 2: that had at the time a very very prominent Vocal Mark,

1403
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: cuban who was the final say of. Things it seemed

1404
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: like in The milwaukee And brooklyn there was a kind

1405
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 2: of game of thrones around the. Top he saw POTENTIALLY

1406
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 2: i can get into some of, this and maybe the

1407
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 2: basketball suffered as a result of that not being focused

1408
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 2: enough on, it or you, know maybe he just got

1409
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 2: better as a coach as time.

1410
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: Progressed BUT i say.

1411
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: That we didn't see some of that In. Dallas but

1412
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: he honestly maybe regretting right now because.

1413
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah and HE i, mean and he's look and he

1414
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 4: was when he was In, milwaukee he was running some really,

1415
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 4: basic rudimentary stuff both in some, floor. RIGHT i think

1416
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 4: he's learned as a coach how to kind of extrapolate some,

1417
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 4: system some stuff and build and everything and create some

1418
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 4: nuance there within what he asked the team to do

1419
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 4: on both ends of the. Floor and that's the thing,

1420
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 4: is like we always talk about the development of players

1421
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 4: and all this. Stuff coaches development. Too oh, Yeah like

1422
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 4: coaches development is a real thing and we've seen it

1423
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 4: a lot and it's part of the Reason Tom thibodau

1424
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 4: has been such a frustrating thing for people is and

1425
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 4: it's actually the interesting is like when he was In,

1426
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 4: chicago this was all defense all the, time and their offense.

1427
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 3: Sucked, Yep disnick's had a flame they were flame.

1428
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 4: Throwers minnesota. Too his team In minnesota couldn't defend at.

1429
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 4: All that was like when the year they made the,

1430
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 4: playoffs which is the first year since like two thousand and,

1431
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 4: four that team was fourth in THE nba in, Offense

1432
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 4: like you would never think that About Tom thibodau. Team,

1433
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 4: sure and so things kind of, switched and some of that's,

1434
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 4: personnel but what like, whatever like they Switch Jason, KIDD

1435
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 4: i do think like he has developed into a much

1436
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 4: better coach on both ends of the. Floor, now whether

1437
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 4: or not that personnel In New york would match what

1438
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 4: he would want to, DO i have some questions about,

1439
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 4: that BUT i don't think it's a bad. Idea the

1440
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 4: problem is to get a coach that is under, contract

1441
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 4: you have to give something up in a trade that

1442
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 4: is typically a first round. Pick they have one that

1443
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 4: they can, deal that's the twenty thirty two first round.

1444
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 4: Pick i'm guessing it would have to be. Unprotected and

1445
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 4: to now have zero first round picks that you can

1446
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 4: move at any point if you want to make a, Move.

1447
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah you're. OUT i get, that you're out Of, luke,

1448
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: Right but, yeah that's pint of the reason Why i'm,

1449
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: like let's just assume that this is the. Roster, yeah

1450
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: because there's got he's gonna cloth to get, him.

1451
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 4: And all this idea of, like, oh well they may

1452
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 4: be in THE gi honest with.

1453
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: What, yeah that's. PART i didn't want to go all

1454
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: the way, there BECAUSE i do think it is, fascinating

1455
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: Especially i'd reminded recently of the How gianni's Called Jason,

1456
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 2: kidd and then also too That gianni's was not on

1457
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 2: the ball nearly as much Before Jason kid got. THERE i,

1458
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: mean rudimentary, short but also you know sometimes the, Development,

1459
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: yeah give the ball to our best player all the

1460
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: time and see what. Happens a lot of, times good things.

1461
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 2: Do BUT i just keep going back to watching that

1462
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: press conference With Nico harrison saying defense wins championships And

1463
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: Jason kidd looking like he was in a hostage.

1464
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: Situation he was the hostage, like he looked.

1465
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: Miserable he went out there and answered those questions and

1466
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: took those, bullets AND I i put it like, THIS

1467
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 2: i don't know how many basketball people could have been

1468
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 2: consulted on that, trade like because of this the nature

1469
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: of THE, nba, right we didn't hear a look about.

1470
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: THAT i was on the radio forty five minutes before it.

1471
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 2: Happened there was not a single itch that that was gonna.

1472
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: Happen then all of a, sudden it, happens and we

1473
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: think it's. Fake we didn't hear anything about. It so

1474
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: how MANY nba people really knew about it? Beforehand because

1475
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 2: it would have got the shams or to you or

1476
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: to somebody whose job it is to put this stuff out.

1477
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 2: THERE i don't think That Jason kidd knew about this

1478
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: until at least the eleventh. Hour like the like the

1479
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 2: glass slipper was right, There Jason kidd was, LIKE i

1480
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: Guess i'll put.

1481
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 4: It on you know What i'm SAYING i don't doubt

1482
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 4: that he And nico had conversations About. Luca of, course

1483
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 4: what can we do with this? Guy he won't do,

1484
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 4: this he won't do, that. WHATEVER i don't doubt those. Conversations.

1485
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely there's a difference between that and we're gonna trade

1486
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 4: him For Anthony. Davis, yeah you're in a, relationship you

1487
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 4: work on.

1488
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: Things, Yeah i'm not blocking a number just because you

1489
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: know you didn't take the trash. OUT i. Will but

1490
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: so with all of, that knowing That Jason kidd at

1491
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: a certain points in time his career wanted more, Power

1492
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: he's not gonna have it In New, york but at

1493
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: least there may be a level of more communication between

1494
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: He Worldwide west And Leon rose than it would. Be

1495
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 2: but BECAUSE i don't think there was zero come, shake you,

1496
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: know communication about, that you, know and league altering move,

1497
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: Right it's not like we're talking about do you want

1498
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 2: us to sign this guy to attend day or that

1499
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 2: guy to attend? Day, Right this is massive, change and

1500
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: so that's what made me think, that you know, WHAT

1501
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 2: i think it could get.

1502
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 3: DONE i THINK i Think Dad kid probably walking around.

1503
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: Like middle finger to, You, nico get me out of.

1504
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 4: Here AND i think if you, do like you could

1505
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 4: really Talk dallas into that twenty thirty two pick for you,

1506
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 4: know unprotected From New, york that could be worth something.

1507
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 4: Big so, yeah that could, Absolutely like you don't know,

1508
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 4: what you don't know if this nick seem is gonna

1509
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 4: be good in three. Years and that's not a knock on,

1510
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 4: Them it's just this stuff changes so much that in

1511
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 4: twenty thirty, two you you deal a pick that far

1512
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 4: down the, road that's a valuable.

1513
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: ASSET i mean here in The, East Staston tatum got you,

1514
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 2: know Bum wheel And, ACHILLES i Mean Donovan mitchell and

1515
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: Means caves how you feel about, them BUT i mean

1516
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: the super highway to THE Nba finals in The Eastern,

1517
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 2: conference if you can get that thing. Together coming up,

1518
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: next guilty or non, Guilty i'll explain. Next Martin Wife

1519
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: Zach harper coming to you live from The Fox Sports radio.

1520
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 2: Studios you can hit us up On twitter with your two.

1521
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,839
Speaker 2: Cents i'm At Martin, Weiss zach is At Talk. Hoops

1522
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: coming up in just a, Minute i'm gonna tell you

1523
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: Why Bo jackson can inform what is wrong with THE nba.

1524
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: Today we'll do that in about forty. Minutes xactly what

1525
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 2: are you talking? About, yeah what you're TALKING i know

1526
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: that's you, know that's a good. TEASE i got it for, you.

1527
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: Buddy i'm gonna tell you and you, know about the

1528
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 3: end of, this you're gonna be, like.

1529
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 2: Golly, gee he's. Right they steal.

1530
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 8: This but for, now it's not for sports, court all,

1531
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 8: right the sports. Court this is only our second time

1532
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 8: whipping this game, Out So, zach you've been here for

1533
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 8: both of.

1534
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 2: Them so.

1535
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 8: Congratulations Uh, so just to refresh you guys and the

1536
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 8: listeners on the rules. Here the way it works, Is

1537
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 8: i've brought a number of gentlemen from around the sports

1538
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 8: world to the Sports court and they're on, trial and

1539
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 8: you guys are gonna tell me whether they are guilty

1540
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 8: or not. Guilty and if you say not, guilty you

1541
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 8: gotta tell me who is. Guilty all right, it let's jump.

1542
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 8: In first, Up Derrick henry stands.

1543
01:14:59,479 --> 01:14:59,879
Speaker 2: Accused.

1544
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 8: Now Adam sandler reportedly offered a movie role To Derrick

1545
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 8: henry if The ravens running back can rush for two

1546
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 8: thousand yards this, season only if you guys have done

1547
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 8: that IN nfl, history by the, Way So Derrick henry

1548
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 8: guilty or not.

1549
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: Guilty i'm gonna go not GUILTYNC eh pop. Out Anthony

1550
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 2: edwards was in An Adam sandler movie and he didn't

1551
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 2: do nearly the equivalent of rush for two thousand. Yards

1552
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 2: and the reason this all came about is because he

1553
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: was On Dan patrick right And Dan patrick told.

1554
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 3: Him he was, Like i'm a fan of.

1555
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: It two thousand yards is a pretty hard high bar to,

1556
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: climb And i'm the Biggest Anthony edwards fan you'll. Find

1557
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: But anthony rads that go close to what the ever

1558
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 2: of THE nba equivalent is a two thousand yards of a.

1559
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 4: Season disagree because if you make The Minnesota timberwolves relevant

1560
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 4: for good, reasons that is way harder than rushing for

1561
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 4: two thousand. Yards did he come short of two thousand?

1562
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 8: Yards he has rushed for two thousand yards? Before, yeah but,

1563
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 8: no but he he short this.

1564
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 2: Year that's. Guilty? Guilty, yeah he had. One you had

1565
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 2: an extra?

1566
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: Game book, Him book him all?

1567
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 8: Right next Up adam sand Or Adam Adam? Silver getting them? Confused,

1568
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 8: There Adam silver guilty. Keys THE nba fans all over

1569
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 8: the country have taking to social media to complain about

1570
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 8: the lack of, production value and overall aura of THIS Nba.

1571
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 8: Finals so they cite things like how the court used

1572
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 8: to have an actual finals trophy on it and there

1573
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 8: would just be a whole spectacle of the actual event.

1574
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 8: Itself not the case this. Year So Adam, silver guilty

1575
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 8: or not, guilty?

1576
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 4: Guilty book. Him this is so frustrating to. Me we

1577
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 4: didn't see the player, intros we didn't see the national.

1578
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 4: Anthem we don't see anything on the court that were,

1579
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 4: like think about THE Nba. Cup you can't even look

1580
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 4: at the.

1581
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: Court it is so.

1582
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 4: Blinding i've seen more blue courts in red courts than

1583
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 4: my my rods and, cones and my eyes can handle

1584
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 4: so much so THAT i had to look up parts

1585
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 4: of the eyeball to know WHAT i. Was what was

1586
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 4: he an assaulted my cornea? Hurt, yes guilty beyond like

1587
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 4: show me the trophy on the. Court he did that.

1588
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 2: Exactly i'm saying guilty as. Well because here's the THING

1589
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 2: i grew like when we grew up on this, Stuff

1590
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 2: WHEN i was a, kid falling in love with this

1591
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: stuff and crying one of my favorite players would lose

1592
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: and chanting like Jump as a kid in the, WORDS

1593
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: i had no dog in a. Fight there was AN

1594
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 2: nba was million miles. Away it was In.

1595
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 3: Atlanta that was the CLOSEST nba team UNTIL i was growing.

1596
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 2: Up AND i was locked in because of the production,

1597
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: value because of the, story because Of bob Coff to saying.

1598
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 3: It's Michael, Jordan it's The Utah jazz nineteen ninety.

1599
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 2: Eight Pump, pump, pump. Right because of all of, THAT

1600
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 2: i will say this, Though i'm kind of appreciative that

1601
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: this is what it, is because if THE Nba finals

1602
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 2: starts to look at the n season, tournament you might

1603
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: lose me. Forever you just might lose me for you

1604
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 2: just need a trophy on the. Floor but they've gone

1605
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 2: way too far to the. Left now just go back

1606
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 2: to two thousand and, one take a picture and recreate

1607
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: it all.

1608
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 8: Right next, Up terry McLaurin stands. Accused. Now Jordan schultz

1609
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 8: reported a few days ago The commander's wide. Out terry

1610
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 8: McLaurin has grown frustrated with the team over the lack

1611
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 8: of progress on a long term. Extension So terry, McLaurin

1612
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 8: guilty or not, Guilty not guilty to, me not guilty

1613
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 8: to me.

1614
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 2: Too so we've all. Agreed i'll go ahead and take

1615
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 2: it right. Now terry McLaurin was the only reason anybody

1616
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: was going To Washington commanders games FROM covid to. Now All,

1617
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 2: RIGHT i Like terry McLaurin. Is he is NOT i would,

1618
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 2: say a tier one. Guy he's Not, jefferson he's Not.

1619
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 2: Chase but you know, WHAT i put him right there

1620
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: up there with Aman, Ross Saint brown and the likes of. That,

1621
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 2: LIKE i think he may not be a tier one

1622
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 2: when you're ranking, everybody but he's a number one on your.

1623
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 2: Team he got a rookie wide. Receiver pay the, man

1624
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 2: get him in can. Up what are we doing.

1625
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 4: Thirteen tuddies last? Year that's good.

1626
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 2: Enough pay. HIM i.

1627
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 8: Mean it's also the fact that they have a rookie.

1628
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 8: Quarterback Jadon daniel is a second year.

1629
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: Quarterback but second year but at this, point, yeah, second

1630
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: it's about time to keep this thing.

1631
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 3: Roll this is the first we've seen of. This, like

1632
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 3: let's keep it going In.

1633
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 2: Washington the last time you felt was good about your,

1634
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: Team Taylor heineken with.

1635
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 8: The, quarterback all, right one more we got time for really.

1636
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 8: Quick James cook stands accused another contract dispute here with The.

1637
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 8: Bills James, cook running back has basically disconnected himself from the.

1638
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 8: Organization Adam schefter, Reports, So James, cook guilty or not, guilty.

1639
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 2: Not, guilty he should have at least five more touchdowns

1640
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: a year that gets taken from him By Josh. Allen if,

1641
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 2: not he'd be right there at the top of the.

1642
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: Market guilty, man running backs are. Replaceable going, again he's guilty. Now,

1643
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 2: HONESTLY i think about that With saquan And James, cook

1644
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: this touch, PUSH i would be suing THE.

1645
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 3: Nfl my stats will be way higher To.

1646
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 2: Tusch what are we? Doing quarterbacks seeks they can. HELP

1647
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 2: i gotta push this. Guy don't come on, now pay.

1648
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: Me don't listening To Fox Sports Radio.

1649
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 2: Radio that's why they're broadcasting live on From Fox Sports

1650
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 2: radio studios on A Fox Sports, saturday in Between games

1651
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: one and two of THE Nba, finals waiting desperately For

1652
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 2: game two.

1653
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 3: Start i'll tell you What lebron had, Suggested.

1654
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 2: Zach then maybe they should take a month off between

1655
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 2: the playoffs and the regular.

1656
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 3: Season i'm here to tell YOU i think that's a terrible.

1657
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: Idea in, fact take less time off because it feels

1658
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: like it's been forever since game one. Ended, yeah LIKE

1659
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: i don't.

1660
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 4: Think, LOOK i know this is probably this is A tv, thing, Right,

1661
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 4: yes they don't want a game On. Saturday they want

1662
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 4: a game On.

1663
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 2: Sunday. Yeah, Absolutely.

1664
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 4: When we're not traveling between, games it's it's one one night.

1665
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 4: Off that's what it's gotta.

1666
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: Be because the travel Between Oklahoma city And indiana without

1667
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 2: it's gotta be less than a three hour. Flow oh for.

1668
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: Sure BUT i, understand, like, look we gotta oh you

1669
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 2: literally not traveling between games one and.

1670
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 4: Two got, Yeah Like i'm, yeah we're not traveling to

1671
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 4: one and. Right so all, right he had a game On.

1672
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 4: Thursday i'm, sorry you got a game On saturday and

1673
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 4: then you got a game On. Saturday you're traveling To

1674
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 4: indianapolis for for the next. Game, okay we'll give You

1675
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 4: Sunday monday, off but you gotta Play. Tuesday like that's

1676
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 4: what the schedule should.

1677
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: Be you.

1678
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 4: Know i'm sick of The, look this is my issue

1679
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 4: with THE nba and this ratings talk and. Everything Adam

1680
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 4: silver was asked about. IT i believe ON fs. One oh,

1681
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 4: yeah this past, week, right Breakfast ball on Breakfast, ball

1682
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,879
Speaker 4: and he starts like talking about, like, oh if it Was, Steelers,

1683
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 4: packers we'll gon't be talking about small markets blah blah

1684
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 4: for The Super bowl and.

1685
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 2: Everything my issue is with. That what's? That why are

1686
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 2: you praising THE nfl when asked about your? LEAGUE i

1687
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i would. Do let me. Be let

1688
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 2: me let's role. Play, Okay i'll Be Craig carton Or Danny,

1689
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: parkins you pick o think And.

1690
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 4: I'll Be Adam Silver and you asked me about the Ratings.

1691
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: Talk Commissioner Adam. Telbyn we got a opalem With Steddy

1692
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 2: Man indiana in the. FINALS i tell, you there's the

1693
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: forty seventh largest market in the fifty sixth largest. Market,

1694
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 2: uh you should probably just cash it because nobody's gonna watch. It,

1695
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: Right that Was.

1696
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 4: Carton imagine that this piece of paper is one of

1697
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 4: those those guns that shoots money out of. It, Okay

1698
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 4: i'm gonna just fire some money into the air and

1699
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 4: Say i'm. SORRY i couldn't hear you Because i'm still

1700
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 4: thinking about that seventy six billion dollar DEAL i just

1701
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 4: negotiated for the, league when ALL i heard about for

1702
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 4: the last four years is how bad the league is

1703
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 4: in shape because of the?

1704
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 2: Ratings what are you? Like you know what you should be?

1705
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 4: Doing, hey you should be watching Shake gilgers alexand he's THE.

1706
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 4: Mvp no one could guard. Him Tyre's holliburn's most clutch

1707
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 4: player in the. League he's he's led a team to

1708
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 4: the to THE Nba. Finals if you can't sell, that

1709
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 4: you shouldn't be talking. About, OH i really wish people would.

1710
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 4: WATCH i really wish. THIS i really, Said, oh you,

1711
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 4: know THE nfl does such a great job sell your.

1712
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 4: League why are you selling another?

1713
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 2: League So silver was on on The herd earlier in the,

1714
01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: season uh huh and was asked similar question and had

1715
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 2: a similar. Response AND i thought that at that, time

1716
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 2: this is Pre luca, trade this is Pre Jimmy butler.

1717
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 2: Trade this is everybody's going mo the, ratings. RIGHT i

1718
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: thought it was a prescient point to make that if

1719
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: the Super bowl is Between baltimore And, seattle guess what

1720
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna hold.

1721
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 3: It everybody's gonna and you, know we'll be happy about.

1722
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: It but that's the Super. Bowl But i'm just but

1723
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 2: from At game, twenty having that perspective on THE nba,

1724
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 2: Finals i'm with. You in THE Nba, Finals i'm also with,

1725
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 2: you LIKE i don't like the idea of like we're

1726
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,759
Speaker 2: not we shouldn't be comparing right. Now we have actual

1727
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 2: stories that are happening in this league today At game,

1728
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 2: TWENTY i get the, comparison you know What i'm, Saying

1729
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: but after In game ninety five or, whatever we are

1730
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: now like, postseason we should be talking about what's going

1731
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,560
Speaker 2: on in the postseason in in this league because like

1732
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: What haliburton is doing, historic What Shake Kills alexander is,

1733
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: doing while not appealing to my, eye also still. Historic

1734
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 2: that's the. Thing sell your, League and that's the, like

1735
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: that's the issue with THE. Nba it's not, ratings it's

1736
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 2: selling your. League as. THIS i have a theory this

1737
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 2: might be too out for, radio so be. Ready, whoa,

1738
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 2: whoa maybe this might be a fourth. Work it does,

1739
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 2: Okay BUT i think THAT i had a funny thought

1740
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: game one BECAUSE i really think one of the things

1741
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: that actually impacts ratings is, politics like things that are

1742
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 2: like everything, ELSE i think is kind of a built

1743
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: in the times that we are, Now LIKE i don't

1744
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 2: think that will not there will not be hell EVERYBODY

1745
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 2: i know watching the game online that that that literally

1746
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 2: does not count to. Ratings AND i think that's the

1747
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: majority of people that usually discussing the game are not

1748
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: necessarily watching it, on you, know in the in the

1749
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 2: traditional ways that ratings are. Measured i'll put it like, That.

1750
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 3: BUT I i think that the entire conversation ABOUT nba,

1751
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 3: ratings which if you look at THE nfl, ratings they

1752
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 3: have to Client Major League baseball ratings they have the.

1753
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 2: Client the entire conversation ABOUT nba ratings is a dishonest

1754
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: one because it started and the thing THAT i thought

1755
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: you were going to initially with the silver. Things it

1756
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 2: is the first Time i'd ever heard him actually come

1757
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 2: out and say. It but he's, like why do people

1758
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 2: care about our? Ratings and nobody else's, sure and it's

1759
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: all starts from the bubble twenty, Twenty Jacob blake the

1760
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: protests all in The George floyd and the cottage industry

1761
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 2: of blaming the NBA's ratings on the fact that they

1762
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 2: Were the ratings were down in THE nba DURING.

1763
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 3: Covid because people did not want to.

1764
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: Take in what was deemed to be a liberal. Product

1765
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 2: when ratings everywhere were down across every single. Thing and

1766
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 2: so WHEN i laughed WHEN i thought WHEN i Saw

1767
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: game one happening the same day That alon And trump broke,

1768
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,560
Speaker 2: up BECAUSE i felt like this actually could impact the

1769
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: ratings of.

1770
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 3: Games, sure because like right, now we're the people.

1771
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 2: Who are WATCHING tv are literally making decision DO i

1772
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: Watch haliburton VERSUS, Sga DO i Watch trump Versus?

1773
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 9: Musk but on a standard daily, basis you know what

1774
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 9: happened earlier this year in. Election that's why THE nba

1775
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 9: ratings are. Down you make a trade For, luka, doncis

1776
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 9: you make a Trade Jimmy. Butler all of a, sudden

1777
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 9: The warriors And lakers have. Life you know what nobody cares?

1778
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 9: About too many?

1779
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 2: Threes, exactly nobody. Cares no one's talking about how nobody's.

1780
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 2: Watching and to the point of sell your, lead it's not,

1781
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 2: HARD i promise it's. Not On it drives me, nuts

1782
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 2: and it's actually we'll talk about it in the next

1783
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 2: segment of one of the.

1784
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 3: THINGS i think the impact of, that but in here On.

1785
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: Game, two particularly whether or not four million people watch

1786
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,560
Speaker 2: it or twelve million people watch, it we will be

1787
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: two of that, number, Yes and what do you think

1788
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: How the better question almost is how do you phrase,

1789
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: this Does Oklahoma city need to bounce? Act Does indiana

1790
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 2: need to keep the foot on the? Gas like when

1791
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 2: you watch, this if you're producing this, show how would

1792
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,560
Speaker 2: you phrase the question that we need to be?

1793
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 4: DISCUSSING i would, say how Does Oklahoma city shut the?

1794
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: Door?

1795
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 4: Okay because they led for forty seven minutes fifty nine

1796
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 4: second fifty nine point seven, seconds, yep or at least

1797
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 4: you know there were some ties in. There But indiana

1798
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 4: only led for zero point three seconds a second and they.

1799
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 2: Won and you look at the.

1800
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 4: Numbers The thunder took twenty more shots in the, paint

1801
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 4: fourteen more shots inside of four, Feet they took more free,

1802
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 4: throws they filed three fewer. Times they had a fifteen

1803
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 4: point lead in the fourth. Quarter they forced twenty five

1804
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 4: turnovers to a team that does not turn the ball.

1805
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 4: Over this Isn't, minnesota this is you, Know indiana does

1806
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 4: not turn the ball. Over they forced twenty five nineteen

1807
01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 4: turnovers in the first. Half to Get Tyrese haliburn to

1808
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 4: turn the ball over three, times will be like somebody

1809
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 4: else turns it over nine. Times, yeah his sister turnover

1810
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 4: rats like seven to. One, Yeah, LIKE i, mean he

1811
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 4: takes care of the ball better than. Anybody, so but

1812
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 4: the problem is with those twenty five, turnovers they didn't

1813
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 4: score off. Them they were going into that, game they

1814
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 4: were abation about twenty four points off of turnovers from their, opponents,

1815
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 4: right they converted those twenty five turnovers into eleven. Points

1816
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 4: that is a crazy low.

1817
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 2: Number like that's like getting thirty first downs and only

1818
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 2: scoring three points. Exactly like this just from what the

1819
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 2: way you measure, this it just doesn't make. Sense so

1820
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 2: just off the, top all. Right SO i know that

1821
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 2: this is a lot of. People there's probably a lot

1822
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 2: easier for other people than this for. Me but don't, worry,

1823
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 2: Guys i'm here for us non calculator. Folk, yeah twenty five. Turnovers,

1824
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 2: yeah if you just hit layup on all of, those

1825
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 2: that's fifty.

1826
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 3: Points that's fifty. Right, yeah so to get, eleven but

1827
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 3: you hit.

1828
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: One free throw off all, those, right they even one

1829
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: free throw twenty five, exactly so. ELEVEN i don't know

1830
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 2: that people talk about the best offenses in THE nba are,

1831
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: like well like one point three four points per.

1832
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,600
Speaker 3: Possession that's gotta be.

1833
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 2: Like there's one point oh oh whatever point per.

1834
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 3: Possession that's.

1835
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 2: Crazy, yeah it's it's so.

1836
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 4: Low and so you're not going to turn them over

1837
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 4: twenty five times in a game, again, right like you just.

1838
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 4: Not so when you do turn them, over whether it's, ten,

1839
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 4: twelve fifteen, times how do you turn that into twenty plus?

1840
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 4: Points that's how you have to do. IT a couple

1841
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 4: of those turnovers they would turn, over they'd turn right

1842
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 4: back To, indiana, right you can't do. That you have

1843
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 4: to get out and. Run they can't defend the three

1844
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 4: the way they. Did gave up way too many left corner.

1845
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 4: Threes and In, indiana you, know aside from, That Miles

1846
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 4: turner banked in three from the left.

1847
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 2: Side that was when it was, like uh oh, yeah

1848
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 2: that's when it's get a little. Worried.

1849
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 4: Right but aside from that, ONE i thought the three

1850
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 4: point defense was pretty. Poor and then you gotta get check.

1851
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 4: Going you gotta Ge Jalen williams, Going AND i would

1852
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 4: try that. Early you, KNOW i as good As shaye,

1853
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 4: was AND i don't have any problems with the way

1854
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 4: shape played in that. GAME i think he played a

1855
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 4: pretty much flawless game Like. Peebore oh he shot too.

1856
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 4: Much now in fourteen to thirty got to the thruth

1857
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 4: to the line eight, times had thirty eight. POINTS i

1858
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 4: didn't turn the ball. OVER i also think there could

1859
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 4: be an argument like you should have shot.

1860
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 2: More, yeah LIKE i think that it's. AMPRESSION i didn't

1861
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: feel that WHEN i was, Watching BUT i look back

1862
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 2: at the. BOX i looked at how nobody else did.

1863
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 2: Anything maybe you shoot thirty seven things as to.

1864
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 4: Win and it also he hits that final shot they

1865
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 4: win the, game, right they go up, three they start

1866
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 4: playing the foul game of like they foul when they're up,

1867
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 4: three so you can't get a three point, Shot like

1868
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 4: we're gonna extend that game and it's gonna be, painstaking

1869
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 4: but they usually win that. Game so like they the

1870
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 4: everything was set up for The thunder to. Win they

1871
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 4: almost always win that. Game SO i don't know that

1872
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 4: you need to change a whole. Lot you just got

1873
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 4: to shut the, door which is really hard Against. Indiana,

1874
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 4: now if You're, indiana you have to make some. Adjustments

1875
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 4: can't turn the ball. Over you've got to defend the,

1876
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 4: paint win. Better even though you know The thunder missed

1877
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 4: a lot of shots in the, paint you gotta defend

1878
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 4: the paint way. Better and you got to get and

1879
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 4: run because they. Didn't they didn't really. Run but that's

1880
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 4: hard to do against the. Thunder, yeah SO i actually

1881
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 4: short At. Halliburton my. Bad it's nine to. One this

1882
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 4: is the turn Of. Rigion that's seven to. One if

1883
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 4: you are three to, one then you're killing. Store you're

1884
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 4: killing it this regular. Season it's been nine to one this.

1885
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 4: Postseason nine to, two not, ten you know.

1886
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: One good for, you buddy. Salute Maybe i'm wrong about

1887
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 2: this whole superstar, deal BUT i think with This the

1888
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: REASON i asked that is because OBVIOUSLY i consume a

1889
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 2: lot of this type of, stuff AND i saw a

1890
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 2: lot of the framework of the question being what Is

1891
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 2: indian and need to do to keep this? Going or

1892
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 2: what Does okay she needs to do to bounce. BACK

1893
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 2: i think you framed it. PERFECTLY i don't Think okay

1894
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 2: she Needs they could do nothing different except for make your. Layups,

1895
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 2: yeah and then you're in a Good then this is

1896
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 2: a ten point, margin, yeah and not to get Two,

1897
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 2: Vegacy BUT i think that's why you see a ten

1898
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 2: point in to what ten and a half For game

1899
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 2: one line and it's right there again For game, two

1900
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: if they just make, LAYUPS i think it's an entirely

1901
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 2: different scenario. NOW i think also what could be interesting

1902
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 2: About that's the reason WHY i kind of bounced the

1903
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 2: conversation of twenty eleven finals earlier verse the Just iverson

1904
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 2: step over was a two thousand and one. One, yeah,

1905
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 2: okay so two thousand eve vers two thousand and one

1906
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 2: where you had the extras and o's of The mavericks

1907
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 2: and eleven and The lakers just you, know you Had

1908
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 2: iverson incredible performance in the fourth quarter of that game

1909
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 2: to get that game one, win and then you saw

1910
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,799
Speaker 2: zilts from the rest of. It was in part Because

1911
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 2: i'm looking at the way that the thunder just did

1912
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 2: not take advantage of the things that they have consistently

1913
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 2: taken advantage, of and wondering how much did that lineup

1914
01:32:55,320 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 2: change mentally, Impact like we talked about, It carlisle and

1915
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 2: saying The pacers we have a feeling where we got them. Scared,

1916
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 2: yeah how much did it impact when you're missing all

1917
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 2: of those, layups all of those bunnies that it almost my,

1918
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 2: instinct as a guy who has never played a competitive

1919
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 2: moment of basketball that anybody cared. About is that this

1920
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 2: feels like the moment could be too. Big you, say,

1921
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Check Jay dubb got to step? Up is the moment too?

1922
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 2: Big and this is a team that they've had their

1923
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 2: lumps in the, playoffs but, like.

1924
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: Not at this.

1925
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 2: Stage, no not at the. Stage.

1926
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 4: NO i, MEAN i do think it's fair to wonder

1927
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 4: if the moment was too big for, them wasn't too

1928
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:37,640
Speaker 4: big For. Shae shae was great THAT i don't do

1929
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 4: even that misclutch. SHOT i don't think you can then

1930
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 4: go oh he, Choked like, no he did. Enough he

1931
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 4: did enough to win that. Game like everyone else needs

1932
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 4: to step. Up everyone who was not Named shaye shot

1933
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 4: thirty six point seven percent from the.

1934
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 2: Field that's.

1935
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 4: Horrible like everyone else literally needs to step. Up AND

1936
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 4: i think part of the game plan From indiana was all,

1937
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 4: right we're gonna eat about forty points From. Shay we're

1938
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 4: gonna try to shut everybody else, down WHICH i think

1939
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 4: is a good. STRETCH i, agree IT'S i, think AND

1940
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 4: i think that that's what it really reminded me.

1941
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 2: Of you have to REMIND i think it was a

1942
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 2: game five Of Thunder timberwolves that was a very Close timberwolves.

1943
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 2: Win was That game five Or game, four whichever one it.

1944
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 2: Was shay had like fifty some point went. Off, yeah

1945
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 2: and But jade McDaniels and And Neil Keelexanther walker And Don,

1946
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 2: davis all these guys are hitting these open threes and

1947
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 2: and had a decent game that game Of Memory. Sharves

1948
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 2: but it was all of these extra that Was game,

1949
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 2: Four game. Four the others were all the ones that

1950
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 2: were hitting their. Shots it's kind of the FEELING i

1951
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 2: had Watching. Indiana it's, LIKE i don't know If i'm

1952
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 2: counting on fifteen from what we topping from the bench.

1953
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah BUT i do have all, right this is

1954
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 3: a final wrinkle.

1955
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 2: THAT i feel. LIKE i don't know if anybody's talked

1956
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,560
Speaker 2: about it or, not BUT i find it. Fascinating we

1957
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,560
Speaker 2: talk about all summer how these international teams have this

1958
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,560
Speaker 2: cohesion and they because they all play together all the.

1959
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 4: Time and that's why TuS, say might be at risk

1960
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 4: here except talent, still, right which is ultimately why we

1961
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 4: have stuff curiys, Right BUT.

1962
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 2: I do wonder AND i thought about. It it hit

1963
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 2: me last series as Nem, haar As, Nikole Alexander walker

1964
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 2: And alexander were playing at each. Other they've guarded each other, Forever, yes,

1965
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 2: right Them hard And matherin have played with tort And

1966
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 2: sga so, much according to the way that everybody talked

1967
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 2: about it the, summertime WHEN i Saw nemhar guarding him

1968
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: one on, One it's, like, hmm this is interesting BECAUSE

1969
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 2: i bet those guys have played ones more than you

1970
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 2: know What i'm, saying that those guys have been in

1971
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: that exact scenario so much over the off seasons of

1972
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 2: their careers that maybe Them hard knew that IF i

1973
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:55,600
Speaker 2: do this, pound but IF i hit him with this

1974
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 2: move at the hardened move basically that he's gonna bite

1975
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 2: And i'm gonna be open And i'm gonna dot him

1976
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 2: in the.

1977
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 4: EYE i also, think, Respectfully Andrew nemhart is a crazy

1978
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 4: person where he's just LIKE i got this and maybe

1979
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 4: he's about To Leroy.

1980
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 3: Jenkins the better example is on the defensive.

1981
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 4: Side, yeah that's WHERE i THINK i think Them hart

1982
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 4: is is WHERE i think most defenders are afraid of

1983
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 4: Defending shae for various. Reasons some of it's to, whistle

1984
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 4: some of it's just, LIKE i, mean he's got every

1985
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 4: move in the. Book he's so calm. EVERYTHING i don't

1986
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 4: Think nemhart is affected by any of. THAT i think

1987
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 4: he knows he's gonna give up. Points BUT i think

1988
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,640
Speaker 4: he's very comfortable Defending, shae whether he gets scored on or.

1989
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 2: Not did my big thing if you can keep show

1990
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 2: off the free throw. Line it's key free Throw and

1991
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 2: it's also those free, throws especially in the first second.

1992
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 2: Quarter it's very much Like Derrick henry where those three

1993
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 2: yard runs they add up.

1994
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 3: Yea and by the time two thousand. Yards but but

1995
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:51,799
Speaker 3: by the time the fourth.

1996
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 2: Quarter, Comes Will blackman told me, This i'll never forget.

1997
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 2: It he, Said, bro by the fourth, QUARTER i can't

1998
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 2: feel my left.

1999
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 3: SHOULDER i don't want to hit him.

2000
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,799
Speaker 2: Anymore i've been hitting him for three. Quarters it. Hurts

2001
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 2: you know What i'm.

2002
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 4: SAYING i wouldnt want to hit him in the firs.

2003
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 4: Quarter but do you know What i'm.

2004
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,799
Speaker 2: Saying, SO i think that when you See shay walking

2005
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 2: into wide open seventeen footers in That Western conference, finals

2006
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 2: because IF i fouled him, Again i'm gonna be so

2007
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 2: mad at. Myself, yes that is just hard to moralize

2008
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 2: it all, right coming up, Next i'll explain why what

2009
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 2: Bo jackson has to do with THIS nba. Playoffs you,

2010
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 2: LOOK i, know it's, weird it's. Wacky it'll all make.

2011
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 3: Sense Martin Wis's Zach Harper Fox Sports Radio.

2012
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 2: Saturday Martin Wis Zach harper coming to you live from

2013
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:38,360
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2014
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,040
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2015
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2016
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,280
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2017
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,400
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2018
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:51,559
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2019
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,320
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2020
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 2: sure to Preset Fox Sports radio in The iHeartRadio app

2021
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 2: and it will always pop up at the top of your.

2022
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 2: Screen So i've been telling you about, This, zach and

2023
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:05,879
Speaker 2: get it at this On. Twitter i'm At Martin whizach

2024
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 2: is At Talk. Hoops we're gonna do a little At

2025
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 2: Talk football here, too but it Also Talk hoops as.

2026
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 2: Well So Steve hartman was talking about this earlier, today

2027
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: and all you gotta do is put a quarter in

2028
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 2: the man and he'll tell you all the stories about

2029
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 2: His raiders times when he was back there With Al

2030
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 2: davis and his, heyday. Right, Sure so he was telling

2031
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,839
Speaker 2: the story today about How Bo jackson and was drafted

2032
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 2: by The. Raiders nobody expected, it and it made me realize,

2033
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 2: something made me think about, something and it really put

2034
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,799
Speaker 2: a pin on a thought THAT i had had Watching

2035
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 2: Jason tatum celebrate the most RECENT nba. Championship he was

2036
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 2: ridiculed after winning this thing because he almost did a

2037
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 2: highlight reel of everybody else's. Celebrations it was, awful, RIGHT i,

2038
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 2: think just off the top of my, head we saw

2039
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 2: The kobe cradle and the, Shower we saw the anything

2040
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 2: as possible from kg on the.

2041
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 3: Court what do you have any others that just pop?

2042
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 3: AGAINST i guess we'll.

2043
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 2: Never, know right, Again so a ton of these, moments

2044
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 2: and it's been something that we've seen more and more

2045
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 2: and more, of even going back to jobs not finished

2046
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 2: and when you're, in when you have a three to one, lead,

2047
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 2: right all of those moments were iconic moments done by

2048
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 2: others That Jason tatum then kind of mimicked What i'm

2049
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 2: and when he Said Bo jackson, today it made me,

2050
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 2: realize Like Bo jackson is a guy that when you

2051
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 2: look at either one of his individual Careers Major League, BASEBALL,

2052
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 2: nfl he's not even sometimes all are very good in

2053
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 2: either one of them when you look at, that but

2054
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 2: he's undeniable that he had a major impact on the.

2055
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Sport and big part of it Was Bo knows the

2056
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:56,799
Speaker 2: marketing campaign behind because we're seeing things LIKE i astactly

2057
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 2: Remember Bo. JACKSON i will never forget watching him snap

2058
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 2: the bat over his, Knee. Guig we have memories Of

2059
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 2: Bo jackson and his, greatness but at no point was

2060
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 2: he the best player in the. League and no point

2061
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 2: was he he maybe barely a point was he the

2062
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:16,560
Speaker 2: best player at this.

2063
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 3: Position but you know What Bo jackson was and is

2064
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 3: to this.

2065
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 2: Day even with the dot there hunting deer with his

2066
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 2: bow and, arrow Bo jackson was cool as. Hell Bo

2067
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 2: jackson was cool as, hell and a part of the

2068
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:33,560
Speaker 2: reason why was because of the bow nos. Campaign AND

2069
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 2: i think that you you've touched on this in the last,

2070
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 2: Segment adam's over talking about THE Nba in a moment like,

2071
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:47,719
Speaker 2: THIS nba marketing from both its league, partners its shoe

2072
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 2: partners in the league itself is a such a it's

2073
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 2: it's just it's at a big time. Low It's adam

2074
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,560
Speaker 2: won't say an all time, low but it. Is it

2075
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:00,759
Speaker 2: is in a, valley.

2076
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 4: Right we have peaks of. Valleys that's in a, valley.

2077
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 4: Right and to, me WHEN i watch, this you Have Tyrese.

2078
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 4: Halibert no matter how you.

2079
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 2: Feel about, him he should be making you feel.

2080
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 3: Something he's over there doing The Sam.

2081
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 2: Cassell he's over there doing the. Choke he's over there

2082
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 2: doing all of. This and so to, ME i want

2083
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 2: to ask you this on the other side of this,

2084
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 2: break the other time we can go To steve will come.

2085
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:30,560
Speaker 2: BACK i want to ask you WHICH nba players have

2086
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 2: like he, Said tyree, SAID i don't want to do

2087
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 2: it again because they Said i'd be or farming when

2088
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 2: it comes to the.

2089
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 3: CHOKE i get. THAT i think he has LEGITIMATE i knew.

2090
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 4: THAT i knew that explained to, me BUT i did

2091
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 4: ONCE i once it was explained What Aura farming, was

2092
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 4: THEN i didn't you guns still struggle with. That that

2093
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:50,799
Speaker 4: team manager from McNee.

2094
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 2: State i'm with. You i'm with you one hundred percent

2095
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i also struggle with the. Concept BUT i was

2096
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 2: told that my thought wasn't, cool. Right what makes a guy?

2097
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 2: Cool alan. Cool And i've been told now that the

2098
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 2: what makes cool is Now. Aura SO i in the perfect,

2099
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 2: world the perfect, setup which of these players should we

2100
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:11,560
Speaker 2: be pushing to?

2101
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 3: Me Tyre's halliburton is at the.

2102
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 2: Top i'm gonna get your answer coming up after, This but,

2103
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 2: First steve De seger with everything trending around the world of,

2104
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:21,440
Speaker 2: Sports Steve, Europe.

2105
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 6: Hello it's the Pet The padres who had a chance

2106
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 6: to tie The dodgers for first place in THE Nl

2107
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 6: west AND I giants one today they're only at game.

2108
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 6: Back The padres got a two run double top of

2109
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,680
Speaker 6: the ninth to tie their game At milwaukee three to.

2110
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 6: Three Luisa rise with the key. Hit The padres have

2111
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 6: just given up a home run bottom of the Ninth

2112
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 6: milwaukee four to. Three the final Over San, diego still

2113
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 6: a game back of The, dodgers who lost two to

2114
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 6: one At Saint. Louis has mentioned The giants are a game.

2115
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 6: Back San francisco won on a two run home or

2116
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 6: bottom of the ninth By Matt chapman three to two Over.

2117
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 6: Atlanta The braves have lost six in a, row even

2118
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 6: though Starter Bryce elder got a no, decision struck out

2119
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 6: twelve in his eight. Innings The cubs hit five home

2120
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 6: runs and won six to.

2121
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 2: One At.

2122
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:06,680
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2123
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 6: One phillies first Baseman Bryce harper went on the injure

2124
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 6: list with wrist. Inflammation road wins For texas And. Toronto

2125
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 6: road wins in extra innings For miami And. Houston White

2126
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 6: sox Beat Kansas city four to one On FOX. Tv

2127
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,120
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2128
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Speaker 6: to seven over The.

2129
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 2: Yankees In New.

2130
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,759
Speaker 6: York in the bottom of the ninth, inning The mariners

2131
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,600
Speaker 6: got an early three run shot from Cal, raley his

2132
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 6: twenty fifth homer that leads The. Majors mariners lead The

2133
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Speaker 6: angels four too In anaheim bottom of the. Third The

2134
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 6: mets at the end of three are up one nothing

2135
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Speaker 6: at The, rockies and, yes The mets short Stuff Francisco

2136
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 6: lindor is back in the starting lineup. Tonight he had

2137
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,759
Speaker 6: the game winning pinch hit On friday despite the broken.

2138
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,559
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2139
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2141
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 6: Sets golf is the First american to win The French

2142
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 6: open Since Serena williams a. Decade the men's Finalist Sunday

2143
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 6: Kentucky derby Winner sovereignty took The Belmont, stakes beating runner Up. Journalism.

2144
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 6: Again journalism was the only horse who ran in all

2145
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 6: three legs of The Triple.

2146
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 2: Crown this.

2147
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 6: YEAR us men's soccer lost an exhibition Against turkey two

2148
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:18,120
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2149
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 6: At chicago seventy nine fifty. Two Caitlin clark still out

2150
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 6: with the string Quad Angel reese Of chicago four points twelve.

2151
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 6: Rebounds Golden state and expansion team beat Up Las vegas

2152
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 6: ninety five sixty. Eight the NHL's coach of The year

2153
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 6: Is Washington Spencer carbury and The steelers officially signed Quarterback Aaron.

2154
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 6: Rodgers he passed his physical. Mandatory mini camp starts. Tuesday

2155
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 6: by the. Way in college Baseball Super, Regionals Coastal carolina

2156
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 6: Eliminated auburn four to.

2157
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 2: One back to, you, Thanks.

2158
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 3: Steve just like, journalism working triple shift can't win.

2159
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 2: Anything it just sounds so. Right this is where we. Are,

2160
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 2: yeah this is where we are off announcing around the.

2161
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Country hopefully we're. Safe, anyway back to the, conversation AND

2162
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 2: i wanted to put a pin on it before WE

2163
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 2: i get to the bottom of, it BECAUSE i think

2164
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 2: this has been brewing for a, while the lack of

2165
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 2: cool in THE. Nba, yes and if you go back

2166
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 2: TO i know a lot of people have beef with

2167
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 2: The Bubble finals saying it wasn't. REAL i contend that

2168
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 2: had any team but The lakers And Lebron james, wanted

2169
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 2: it would have been just as real as any other.

2170
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:28,680
Speaker 2: Finals but, sure either, Way i'll try that as my

2171
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 2: line of demarcation and maybe it helped my. Argument yanna

2172
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 2: say to The Kopo, FINALS mvp twenty twenty one decidedly not.

2173
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 3: Cool great basketball, Player, yeah makes that jokes.

2174
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 2: Consistently, yes, Right Nicole jokics one of the best we've

2175
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 2: Ever sorry Skip Steph. Curry Steph Curry, FINALS mvp should be.

2176
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 2: Cool should be cool in terms of, marketing like the

2177
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:51,720
Speaker 2: marketing of him should be cool because he's that great

2178
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 2: of a. Player but when you really boil it, down

2179
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 2: if you're looking at the cool factor Of Steph curry

2180
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 2: as a role As chapmans trips and does not the,

2181
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 2: course there's no way that's an. Out there's no. Way all, right,

2182
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 2: Anyway Steph, curry somebody should be, cool, right but has

2183
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 2: kind of been more on the nerdy side of. Things

2184
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 2: this is not a referendum on the. Game game is. Incredible,

2185
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 2: no But i'm talking about under arms your. Shoe, yeah

2186
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 2: you're you're at The Benton boone. Concert, no that's you

2187
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 2: know WHAT i, Mean, LIKE i know Who Benton boone

2188
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:23,679
Speaker 2: is AND i kind of meant To i'm gonna talk

2189
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 2: to right, right but like the idea that he's out

2190
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 2: There moonbeam Ice cream speaks to my. Point Nicola, jokic

2191
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 2: one of the best of this generation has zero interest

2192
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 2: in being cool at. All does that make him? Cool?

2193
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 2: Though maybe if he didn't have the Action i'm not

2194
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 2: even trying to be, jingoistic but maybe if he was

2195
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 2: more of an like maybe if you if we could

2196
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 2: relate to it a little bit. More, Yeah Jalen brown

2197
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 2: has is shown that he'd much rather be, nerd and

2198
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:53,679
Speaker 2: Then Jason tatum did what he did after that, final

2199
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 2: so there was no cool to be, had, Right and

2200
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 2: so NOW i think we are at an apex Of

2201
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 2: it's been five years Since cool won the, finals you

2202
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 2: know What i'm, Saying and even before, then it Was

2203
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 2: KAWHI KD. Kd at that, point very online that was

2204
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,680
Speaker 2: the tweeting Was. COOL i think that was, well but

2205
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 2: it wasn't regarded then as.

2206
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 4: Cool it was regarded as, sad whereas now since then

2207
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 4: it has turned into something that people now.

2208
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 2: EMBRACE i think also to what happened is some of the,

2209
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 2: olders the elders have either grown out or we grew

2210
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 2: up into the. Business. Boy we're, like you, know we've

2211
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 2: tweeted all the. Time it makes perfect sense For katie

2212
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 2: to have A twitter and deal with, it like you

2213
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 2: know What i'm saying as we you, know, SO i

2214
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 2: think that the attitude on that changed a. Bit but

2215
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 2: to that, point do you do you agree with What

2216
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 2: i'm saying here in that If i'm a, KID i

2217
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:42,679
Speaker 2: don't know whose.

2218
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 3: POSTER i have on the wall BECAUSE i Had Allen

2219
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,639
Speaker 3: iris's post on the. WALL i had run our test

2220
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 3: poster on the.

2221
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 2: Wall you know What i'm. SAYING i didn't have like

2222
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 2: The Kobe bryant and the which on the. Poster but

2223
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 2: that's WHAT i was the fan Of Randy, moss like

2224
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 2: the guys who were a little Bit, yeah you know

2225
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 2: What i'm, saying just because those are the guys that

2226
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:04,679
Speaker 2: threw me To Sean kemp Jay. Will, yeah you can't

2227
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 2: tell me that's not having a massive impact on the

2228
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:07,679
Speaker 2: white people view THE. Nba.

2229
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah AND i think part of that is it became

2230
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 4: it became cool or whatever to like not, care, right

2231
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 4: to actively not be. AFFECTED i should, say not that not,

2232
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 4: care but not be, affect n, bothered unbothered, right WHICH

2233
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 4: i think is so corny as like just an, idea

2234
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 4: and so that THAT i think has affected the generation

2235
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 4: where like the all, right they can't be bothered by,

2236
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 4: anything whereas if, you if you do show, emotion Like

2237
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 4: Anthony edwards decidedly, cool absolutely decidedly, cool because he shows

2238
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 4: a personality and in such a there's such a dearth

2239
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 4: of personality now in THE, nba which is it didn't

2240
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 4: used to be that. Way it didn't used to be that.

2241
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 4: Way it used to be there was almost too much personality,

2242
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 4: everywhere and so now he is.

2243
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 2: Dress code so, On Like David stern is, like this

2244
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 2: is exactly THE lea except for the, rating except for

2245
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 2: the ratings and so if you looking at like the,

2246
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 2: options there's not that. Many LIKE i would, Say shay not.

2247
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 2: Cool AND i know he gets some, circles like some

2248
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 2: some buzz in the fashion world of it, all BUT i.

2249
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 3: Agree i've seen.

2250
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 2: The bit about his aura this year AND i just

2251
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: never got. It i'm with, you.

2252
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 4: Guys look go look up His instagram captions where he's

2253
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 4: trying to like spit bars or what it's.

2254
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 2: Not it doesn't.

2255
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 4: Work okay clearly listens To drake and part of it.

2256
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 2: Too with The shay, THING i think back to the

2257
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 2: damn difference between, bowls old commercials and whatever the hell

2258
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 2: him and Chet holgrid do on at AND t Every

2259
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 2: march THAT i don't blame them for. Though that's that's

2260
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 2: just bad, marketing bad. Commercials BUT i think it all

2261
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 2: is symptoms of the, disease, yes for. Sure but the

2262
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 2: problem with that Is shay's, GAME i would. ARGUE i

2263
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:56,680
Speaker 2: know people focus on like the foul stuff when he's

2264
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:57,559
Speaker 2: not doing. That it's very.

2265
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:00,679
Speaker 4: Is he's a bad. Man he like he's got a crazy.

2266
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 4: Handle he's a crazy shot. MAKER i, mean he is

2267
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 4: fun to watch to, me he's fun to. WATCH i

2268
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 4: do get sick of some of the foul stuff from

2269
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 4: time to, time but for the most, PART i love

2270
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 4: watching him kill. Guy, yes like he so it should be,

2271
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 4: marketable it should Be tyrese is, LIKE i guess.

2272
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 2: This is what we.

2273
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 4: HAVE i, mean if we go back to the team

2274
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 4: manager of McNee, state, Sure tyrese is a cool Nerd

2275
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,600
Speaker 4: he talks. Trash he's a nerdy. Dude there was just

2276
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 4: like a social media. Thing compared him to When Steve

2277
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 4: rkle would play basketball right like he just had.

2278
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 2: Like HE i Love, hanny like love the trash.

2279
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 4: Talk where after he eliminated The, knicks he put out

2280
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 4: like a social media video of just his highlights against

2281
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 4: The knicks with with you know fifty CENT i Run

2282
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 4: New york like that whole, thing LIKE i get THE

2283
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 4: I Get money, song like like he like he gets.

2284
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 2: It he gets what that.

2285
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 4: Is and it's NOT i would, say it's not in

2286
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:57,280
Speaker 4: a corny. Way it's a nerdy, way but it's not

2287
01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:59,720
Speaker 4: a corny. Way but if you're looking at guys who

2288
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:03,720
Speaker 4: can win titles and and and be that, PERSON i

2289
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,759
Speaker 4: would Say Jalen brunson is cool because he doesn't really

2290
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:09,640
Speaker 4: have that have a personality.

2291
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 2: In that way, too especially In New york where it's

2292
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 2: hard just about.

2293
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 4: The, business, Right like the job is the. JOB i

2294
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,640
Speaker 4: think that's, Cool, like but there's not a ton of

2295
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 4: dudes that that really do fit that.

2296
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 2: Mold AND i don't know what you do with, that

2297
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 2: like to Even.

2298
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 4: Webby wenby's a nerd and and And wenby's kind of

2299
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 4: corny in the sense of like he's trying to be

2300
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 4: existential AND i get it like, that like that's maybe

2301
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 4: A french. THING i don't, know not you, know not

2302
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 4: trying to be like xenophobic, here but like like he

2303
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 4: comes from a very different culture and he's trying to

2304
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 4: be you, know he's talking about like the wasteland that

2305
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 4: Is Las vegas and, everything and AND i don't doubt

2306
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 4: that this is his real, personality but like we're not

2307
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 4: going to embrace that to.

2308
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 2: The point of AND I i hear you, say not

2309
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 2: trying to be. XENOPHOBIC i do think that there is

2310
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 2: something too The american versus international, players and it is

2311
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 2: not has nothing to do with toughness or. Anything it is.

2312
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 2: Attitude and the thing THAT i will point to every

2313
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:16,440
Speaker 2: point in time, is you, know who's cool who's. International

2314
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 2: luca Freaking danta just about to, say because you know

2315
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 2: why he's cool, though because he walks on the court

2316
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 2: and he will cuts you out in three different. Languages

2317
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,679
Speaker 2: you will let you know exactly how he feels about.

2318
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,719
Speaker 2: You and As, americans that is what we are looking,

2319
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 2: for we want to. Know to your point about being,

2320
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 2: Unbothered luca is, bothered all, Right Anthony edwards is. Bothered

2321
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,639
Speaker 2: Tyre's halliburton is bothered in, there and that's in their own.

2322
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:45,560
Speaker 2: Ways like the unbothered was, like you don't want to

2323
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 2: seem like what the kids now will call you, Know

2324
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:50,759
Speaker 2: i'm not crashing. Out there is a space between crashing

2325
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 2: out and letting everybody Know i'm. Him AND i think

2326
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 2: that when you look at how, like that's a big

2327
01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:00,799
Speaker 2: reason WHY i wanted The timberwolves to make the, PLAYOFFS

2328
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 2: i mean make the finals as a guy who had

2329
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 2: no big rooting interest outside of being An Anthony edwards.

2330
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 3: Fan is because you had WHAT.

2331
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:09,719
Speaker 2: I would call on a VERY pg, level a private

2332
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 2: school versus public school attitude With Anthony edwards Versus Tyrees.

2333
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 2: Haliburton but both of those guys have huge personalities and

2334
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:22,640
Speaker 2: it would shine through whereas The thunder are very spursy

2335
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 2: in that we are actively trying not to tell you

2336
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 2: anything and are proud of. It AND i get that

2337
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 2: that works for, them but for the league in, GENERAL

2338
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 2: i hate.

2339
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 4: It but it's interesting too Because i've seen so many,

2340
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 4: people like people in, basketball people like friends of mine

2341
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 4: that are that don't have it rooting interests against. Them

2342
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:41,719
Speaker 4: throughout this, run have been, LIKE i don't like That thunder,

2343
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:44,439
Speaker 4: team and they can't really figure out. Why And i'm trying,

2344
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 4: to you, KNOW i wrote about the other, day But

2345
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 4: i'm trying to figure it, out and they're, like, yeah

2346
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,680
Speaker 4: some of it's A seattle. Thing some of it, is

2347
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 4: like we find them. CORNY i don't like the draft.

2348
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 4: Picks you know how many draft picks they? HAVE i

2349
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 4: don't like you know what do they else say say

2350
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 4: LIKE i don't like, that you, know the whistle That

2351
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 4: shay gin, so the whistle that they get or, whatever

2352
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 4: like they. Like there's all these, reasons but there's no

2353
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 4: real reason to not like this. Team and, yet you,

2354
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 4: know some of, it say they do that interview, together

2355
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 4: the silent interview, together that's a part of the corniness or.

2356
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 4: Whatever BUT i find it interesting that they're not embraced

2357
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 4: because if you think about, it it is a young

2358
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 4: team with THE mvp who's, unguardable with a lot of you,

2359
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 4: know a lot of young stars in the making that

2360
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 4: play great on both ends of the.

2361
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 2: Floor everything that we talk about in sports of what

2362
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 2: you want to build up is right, there and yet they.

2363
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 2: Don't they're not embraced outside Of, okay see my. TAKE

2364
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 2: i think that legitimately personality, wise they're freaking. Boring and that's.

2365
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 2: Why and in the world where not cool to your

2366
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 2: point and the like watching them, play, sure everything else.

2367
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:53,360
Speaker 2: Snooze everything else is a snooze to the fact that

2368
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 2: ten out of the TWENTY nba fans have no idea

2369
01:54:55,920 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 2: who that coaches right, right and and uh and to

2370
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 2: that point is just in the world where everything is pro,

2371
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 2: wrestling like more and more and more and more things

2372
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 2: seem to be going in pro wrestling's.

2373
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 3: Way it's like nobody has time for this humble nature of.

2374
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 2: THINGS i want to see you talking To Adam sandler

2375
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 2: SAYING i will rush for two thousand yards to put

2376
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 2: me in a. Movie speaking of, THAT i don't know

2377
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 2: if you guys know, this but we are in the

2378
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 2: midst of a kindosere of somebody who just collects movies

2379
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 2: pelts on the wall right, here not just on the

2380
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 2: belt or movies For Zach, harper and we're telling we're

2381
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 2: dealing with The Wilt chamberlain of. Them so WHEN i

2382
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 2: tell you there's nobody better to answer this, QUESTION i

2383
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 2: promise you that is the. Case we'll get to it

2384
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 2: in just a. Minute Martin wis Is Zach Harper Fox

2385
01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 2: Sports radio coming to your line from The Fox Sports radio.

2386
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 2: Studios Martin weiss And Zach harper keeping the seats warm

2387
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 2: For Aaron torres And Jason. Martin they'll join you at

2388
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 2: the top of the, hour but for, now let's go.

2389
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 2: Ahead and, uh AND i DON'T i want to talk

2390
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 2: to you about this because you again have one OF

2391
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 2: i put it like, This so My Mount rushmore podcast Exists,

2392
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 2: cenophobe even THOUGH i don't love the format, change but

2393
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 2: that's the conversation for off air was better in the old.

2394
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 2: Format still up, there just third not second. Anyway cinopho

2395
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 2: is to me one of my favorite podcasts And zach

2396
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 2: host By Zach, harper Meinow assien And Anthony, mays which

2397
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 2: is trying to ascertain whether the movies you actually love

2398
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 2: are good or. BAD i just butchered, That but, no

2399
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 2: that's pretty. Close it's pretty. Close so the idea That

2400
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 2: Adam sandler will Put Derek henry in a movie THAT

2401
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 2: i imagine hits a little different For Zach, harper because

2402
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 2: that is a movie, that without ever seeing, it knowing,

2403
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 2: it knowing anything about, it it would once definitely qualify FOR.

2404
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 2: Centopho if It's Adam, sandler it definitely will exactly. So

2405
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 2: and the qualifications for a centifol movie are under forty.

2406
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 2: Percent Rotten tomatoes are viewers.

2407
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 4: For the audience or the critics score of.

2408
01:56:58,080 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 2: Them that's to be one of. Them so these are

2409
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 2: movies somebody said they were, Terrible, well they'll watch them

2410
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 2: see if they really. Are it's a public. Service BUT

2411
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 2: i wanted to ask you because of that unique situation

2412
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 2: and your a unique expertise, here you'll be able to

2413
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 2: have a running list of the worst and the best

2414
01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 2: athlete cameos in a. Movie Because Derrick, henry to, me

2415
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 2: does not scream, actor, Right Anthony, Edwards oh, YEAH i

2416
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 2: could see. That Derrick, Henry i'm not. Sure so with,

2417
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 2: THAT i Think i'm just gonna let you lay, out.

2418
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 4: So if we're gonna go. Worst, now these may be

2419
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 4: controversial because the movies are, great, okay BUT i think

2420
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 4: the cameos themselves are.

2421
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 2: Terrible.

2422
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 4: Okay so two that came to. Mind Dan marino's terrible In. Aspineur,

2423
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 4: okay here for.

2424
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 2: It he's.

2425
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 4: Terrible it's great as a. Movie even having him as

2426
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 4: the person is great is a great. Idea he's awful in.

2427
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 4: It AND i don't even needs you to, LIKE i

2428
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 4: don't need him to be a good. ACTOR i just

2429
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 4: need him to not be. Bad like he was better

2430
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 4: Selling isoton Or gloves than he was being himself in a.

2431
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 4: Movie he wasn't playing anybody but. Himself. Right the other,

2432
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 4: one it's a great. Movie people love the. CAMEO i

2433
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 4: Think Lance.

2434
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 2: Armstrong is terrible In, dodgeball. Terrible it's one scenes at

2435
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 2: the airport bar he And vince Vond he's.

2436
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 4: Bad he's bad in. It that's like those are those

2437
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 4: are the two worst to? Me the ones that the

2438
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 4: two were the three that come to mind for like the.

2439
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 4: Best obviously maybe The alzheimer Is kream Abdul jabbar In

2440
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 4: airplane like that is like you got to mention that

2441
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 4: off the, TOP i.

2442
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 2: Agree with, that or like that's cannon to me because

2443
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 2: because he was actually like a good.

2444
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 4: Actor, yeah he was, good like and he's been like

2445
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 4: Some Bruce lee movies and stuff like, yeah he, like,

2446
01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 4: yeah he's. Good he was on a he's on an

2447
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 4: episode Of New girl where he was, funny like he

2448
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 4: like he can do it.

2449
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 2: Right the other, ONE i would, say, uh Is.

2450
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 4: Derek jeter and the other guys really, Funny, okay like

2451
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 4: really legitimately. Funny it's just one scene where it's Like

2452
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 4: Mark wahlberg's you, know flashback to where his like career

2453
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 4: went wrong or. Whatever super funny. Scene and then this

2454
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 4: is my personal favorite all Time Mike tyson. Hangover, oh

2455
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 4: like that's the greatest.

2456
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 2: Ever and not only. That talk about a, Rebrand, yes

2457
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 2: a huge.

2458
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 8: Rebrand like what About Michael Irvin The Longest Yard? Terrible

2459
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 8: you didn't like? It, no the remake sucked and he was.

2460
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 8: Bad no offense Of Michael, irvan WHO i, love but

2461
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 8: he was.

2462
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 2: TERRIBLE i could tell. YOU i could confirm what he

2463
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:58,840
Speaker 2: was playing himself for, sure That michael at all times

2464
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 2: of the day at. Night now he was To Michael,

2465
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 2: irvin is exactly like. That jason Tore As martin And

2466
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 2: Erin torre is up. Next we're. Out