1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Morning. Everybody is dj n V. Charlemagne the guy. We 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: the building. Can come. Consciousness is back, doctor Umar Johnson. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Welcome piece and Pan Africanism. Brothers, glad to be back, 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Glad to have you. Man. First of all, you look slim, brother, 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: You don't You don't slim down a little bit? Oh yes, Uh, 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: I think I have. Um. I didn't do nothing intentional, 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: So let me not sit here and lie. Okay, I 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: guess it's just you know, getting older and wise, I hope. 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: And first things first, man, congrats on the Frederick Douglas 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Marcus Golf Academy. I've been paying attention. I see that 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: you got the building. Yes, so you've been doing renovations 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: on the buildings, the HVAC in all kind of other stuff. 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: We're just about done. Uh. Electric is awaiting a permit. 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: H VAC is awaiting controls. They're actually at the school 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: right now. Plumbing is just about done. They got one 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: more piece. Fire alarm is done. They got to check 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: one more piece to that. The monitoring system is done. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm hoping by the end of the calendar. Yeah, we 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: can at our inspection and have a grand open and 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: in February hopefully, and you you got to get accreditation 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: to nah, Well, your accreditation comes from the state, so 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: it's the state that gives you the license to operate. 24 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: If you want accreditation beyond that, you can seek out 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: professional accreditation bureaus. But that's not legally required. Man, why 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: don't you talk about that more, doctor Umar, especially being 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 1: that they tried to clown you for so long about 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, not out because if you know that your 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: mission is genuine, it's no need to respond to the 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: negativity because that some day the fruit of your works 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: will manifest. You follow my fingers while argue when you 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: know one day they're going to see the school. Talk 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: about the process because it was a long process. Was 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: a very long process, Hurley. Talk about that a little 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: bit and what you had to get through and also 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: getting funding. Yes, so we um took our first donation 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis twenty fourteen. We heard about the Saint 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: Paul's College, which was an HPC you closed. Ever, they 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: wanted two millions, so we tried to raise it as 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: quickly as we can. That was a bit ambitious. We 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: didn't succeed. It was sold to an Asian company unfortunately, 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: and HBCU sold to another race. I think it's a 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: great disappointment for us as a people. So then we 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: just started looking for a day school. So I went 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: to Chicago, Detroit, Florida, Ohio, all over the country. I 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: was just flying looking for a school. And then in 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, I was on loop net, which was my 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: main source of new property, and I saw this campus 49 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: in Wilmington, Delaware that I had heard about but never 50 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: had a chance to see. So I'm on my way 51 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: to Nat Turner celebration August twenty, twenty seventeen the Great 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: North American Eclipse. I stopped, I saw the campus. I said, 53 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: this looks pretty nice. When I got back from that Turner, 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: I had to go to Cuba first to get my 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: EFI initiation. I practiced Europe of Spirituality. Came back from 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: Cuba and I got a chance to go into the 57 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: school and I saw it. I said, we want this school, 58 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: but they wanted two million dollars. We couldn't afford that. 59 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: We only had a half of a million. So I 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: negotiated with them from August of seventeen until February of 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: nineteen and they finally decided to sell us the building 62 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: for the money that we had. So now we got 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: the building. So what's been going on in the past 64 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: three and a half years? Getting contractors who you can 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: trust to help you with it? And contractors were not 66 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: kind to us. Man, They ripped us off, they scammed us, 67 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: they stole out the building. The con is real. The 68 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: con and contractor. I've been dealing with it for the 69 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: last it's very real, brothers. And then finally we had 70 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: our second FDMG festival this past September the tenth, and 71 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, we may have to step 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: outside the African American community to get this done because 73 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: we've been waiting three years for our people to help us, 74 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: not for free. We could afford to pay them, but 75 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: they wasn't being honest with us and straight up. And 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: of course we know that's not all of our contractors. 77 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: We want to be clear. We've met a lot of 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: our decent contractors along the way, but the ones who 79 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: we had to use because they was licensed and certified 80 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: where we are, they didn't really do us right. So 81 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: I said, let's go with some wife folks, and guess what. 82 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Here we are ninety days later, and the white contractors 83 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: have gotten us to the finish line in three months 84 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: versus three years waiting on our own people. It says 85 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: that we need to Frederick Douglas and Marcus Garvie Academy. 86 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: It says that black boys have to be raised and 87 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: trained in how to be black men and how to 88 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: be committed to the black community, because I think as 89 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: a community we've lost our integrity, our honor, our loyalty, 90 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: and our commitment. If I was who I am for 91 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: Black people, for the Mexican American community, that school would 92 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: have been done three years ago. If I was who 93 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: I am to the Asian community, the Anglo Saxon community, 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: the Native American community, that school gets done the first 95 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: year we purchased it. We're not sitting here three and 96 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: a half years after purchase, just now getting to the 97 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: finish line and needing white people to get us there. 98 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: What is the curriculum going to look like? We our 99 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: in addition to your required math, science, language, and social studies, 100 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: we're going to have financial, economic science, critical how to 101 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: do your own taxes, real estate, international investments, business planning. Because, 102 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: as we've talked about before, going to college is not 103 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: automatically a recipe for success, but it is automatically a 104 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: recipe for debt. So for those young men who want 105 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: to go to college, we want to give them that 106 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: ability to do that, but we also want to give 107 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: them other means of making an economic impact and survival 108 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: plan for their lives. So we got financial and economic, 109 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: We have dietary and nutritional how to eat the live 110 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: a lot of your doctor Saby type of information, Doctor 111 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: Layla Africa. Rest in peace to both of them. That 112 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: will be in their agricultural and agronomical We're going to 113 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: teach them how to grow. They have to grow their 114 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: own food in order to graduate. We have to become 115 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: agriculturally self sufficient. In addition to that, spiritual and astrological science, 116 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: I want our young men to understand how African people 117 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: related to God before Abraham, before Jesus, for Muhammed. Those religions, 118 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: and all due respect to all of them, they're only 119 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: Christianity is two thousand years old, Islam is fifteen hundred 120 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: years old, Judaism is about four or five thousand years old, 121 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: but traditional African culture and spirituality is more than a 122 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: quarter of a million years old. We dealt with God 123 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: fall longer from a non Abrahamic tradition than we have 124 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: from an Abrahamic tradition. Nothing's wrong with those, but I 125 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: want our children to understand how we deal with the ancestors, 126 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: how we deal with the earth in the land, and 127 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: so we're going to have that. There will also be 128 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: science of the black family, So that includes science of 129 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: a black man, a black woman, the black child, how 130 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: to be a gentleman, how to take care of your woman, 131 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: how to raise your children, how to be a leader 132 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: in the community. And of course there will be military 133 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: and political science. If I didn't mention that, we do 134 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: want to teach them survival skills, traditional African martial arts, 135 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: both with and without weapons. Understanding the world that we 136 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: live in. Why is Africa the richest continent but in 137 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: the poorest condition while it was Barack Obama made presidents 138 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: and it had nothing to do with America reinventing herself. Okay, 139 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: Why has multiculturalism been used as a weapon against African people? 140 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: So we want to make sure that we are graduating 141 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: well rounded young men who can go anywhere in the 142 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: world and build independent communities. We are a nation building academy. 143 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: We are not college prep. We are not military prep, 144 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: we are not trade school prep. They will be ready 145 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: for any of those. But above all that, we are 146 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: nation building. Can you answer that President Obama question. I'd 147 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: like to know the answer today. Oh, Barack Obama was 148 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: made president for two reasons. Domestically, he was made president 149 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: to force alternative sexual lifestyles onto black children, sexual confusion 150 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: as a means of population control. And internationally, he was 151 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: made president to go to Africa and to force africam 152 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: there to build military basis all throughout the continent. And 153 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: guess what, There's been about six schools in Africa over 154 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: the past year, and every single coup was in a 155 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: country with a United States military base. No coincidence. America 156 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: only practices democracy or the person who wins the election 157 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: has an agenda that is in the interests of America. 158 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Charlotte Man, you can be elected president, but if your 159 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: agenda is not in the interest of the white power structure, 160 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: you will be overthrown. Democracy only lasts as long as 161 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: the person winning the election is favorable to the agenda 162 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: of the powershop. I think you see that all the time, 163 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: especially with the GOP. Saw that in Georgia, right, they 164 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: didn't care if herschel Walker was a terrible candidate. They 165 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: knew that if he got into the Senate, he was 166 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna do the bidding of the GOP who won the 167 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: run off. Warknock one, Okay, here's what I'm gonna say 168 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: to that, and my maternal ancestry is from Georgia. It 169 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: didn't make a difference if Warnock one, It didn't make 170 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: a difference if hoshel Walker won, because both of them 171 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: are candidates who are aligned with two white, racist political parties. 172 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: The Democratic Party don't care about black people. The Republican 173 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: Party don't care about black people. Raphael Warnock hasn't done 174 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: nothing his first term. He's not gonna do nothing his 175 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: second term. And if herschel Walker would have won, it 176 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: would have been the same. One of the things we 177 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: have to do as black people. We have to get 178 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: off this Republican democratic political dichotomy because it does not 179 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: serve us and it wasn't created for our interests. That 180 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: is a white intellectual conversation. Whether you're a Republican or 181 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: a Democrat, our dichotomy is not democracy or republicanism. Our 182 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: dichotomy is freedom or oppression. That's the black dichotomy. Who 183 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: belongs to the Freedom Party, who belongs to the House 184 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: Negro Party? That's it. Look at the Congressional Black Caucus, 185 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: fifty nine African Americans, and more than half of them 186 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: are old enough to be your grandparents. Why do we 187 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: have people in the CBC in their seventies, in their eighties, 188 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: in their sixties. Don't get me wrong. In African culture, 189 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: we believe an old man for counsel and a young 190 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: man for war. But look who we got in DC 191 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: fighting for justice for African people, the senior citizens, and 192 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: we wonder why nothing's getting done because they don't want 193 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: to pass the baton. And this is an issue that 194 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: we have had in the Black community for a long time, 195 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: not just Congressional Black Caucus, black church, black community organization, 196 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: where we don't want to pass the baton to the 197 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: next generation. And why not. Black men and women are 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: seldom given an opportunity to experience real power. So when 199 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: we get a taste of real power, we don't like 200 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: to give it up because we're not used to it. 201 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: That's why you got an hundred year old pastors running 202 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: churches when you got twenty and thirty year old young 203 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: pastors in the same congregation who would never get a 204 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: chance to give a sermon. That's why you see so 205 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: many old leaders in black organizations because they don't want 206 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: to pass the baton, because the old black man's ego 207 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: is bigger and stronger than a young black man's ego. No, 208 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: I want to go back to something you said about Obama. 209 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: You know Obama was opposed the same sex marriage and 210 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: oh when he ran, Yeah, but the power structure told him, 211 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: you're going to support this when you get in there. 212 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: That was the second term. Yes, ye, yes, because the 213 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: agenda had not yet been set. But when the agenda 214 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: was set, he had to carry it out because Obama 215 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: belonged to a white, racist political party. Let me ask 216 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: you question the students that want to attend your school. Yes, sir, 217 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: thank you. Is there anything? What are the qualifications if 218 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: there are any? Uh? Be black? There's really no qualifications. 219 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: If you're gayest trader, doesn't matter if you're mixed or anything. Well, 220 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: a mixed African. For those of us who are revolution 221 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: every Pan African nationalists garviites, a mixed African is considered 222 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: an African. I do not discriminate between a black man 223 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: with a white mother, or a black man with with 224 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: a black mother, or a black woman with a white father, 225 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: or a black woman with a black father. If one 226 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: of your parents is an African, we accept you as 227 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: an African as long as you identify you have to 228 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: be psychologically black, and you also have to be biologically black. 229 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: You understand, But we don't take issue with mixed race. 230 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: Many of the greatest Pan Africanists who ever lived or 231 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: mixed race. There's even some argument that the greatest revolutionary 232 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: of all time in his country to profit and that Turner, 233 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: he may have been a mixed race. His mother may 234 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: have been raped by the slave master. You see, So 235 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 1: we don't take issue over that. On a plantation, you 236 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: had no control how you came into this world. Now, 237 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: with that being said, it's important that black men and 238 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: black women, even if they be mixed race Africans, they 239 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: understand that we will not perpetuate that mistake because it 240 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: does not benefit the black community. So although you may 241 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: have a white parent, you will only produce children with 242 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: someone who looks like you. Be careful drinking that. That's 243 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: called liquid death. Now you should It's water. Look at 244 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: the can. It's water. It's gonna make sure I get 245 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: my brother. Nothing just gives you some bragular water man. 246 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: It's the ciain't hit it now. I think that that's 247 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: I think that's wisk Leifer's water. Actually I think he's okay, Okay, 248 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: wis Kleifer from PA, So that might be okay, Okay. 249 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be careful because you'll know. When brother Malcolm 250 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: went to the Middle East, they poisoned his drink. I 251 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: think Malcolm had to get pumped. They try to kill 252 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: Malcolm in the Middle East. I know you're not, but 253 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: I don't know who else around here. Okay, Johnny Cochrane 254 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: was poisoned, and you know Johnny Cochrane was murdered because 255 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: Johnny Cochrane was on the verge of finding out or 256 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: he was going to determine how much reparations America owes 257 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: African people. Right after that, Johnny Cochrane ends up dead. 258 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: Patrice Lamumba in the Congo first democratically elected Prime Minister 259 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: of the Congo. They poisoned his daughter in trying to 260 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: poison him. The CIA through the two pace. So we 261 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: got to be clear that there is a doctor collar 262 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: that du Muhammad, a leader of the New Black Panther party. 263 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: He may have also been poisoned. So we got to 264 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: be careful about what we eat and what we drink, 265 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: especially me. So what do you think about the study 266 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: of HR forty You know what I mean, because I 267 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: mean that study is the reparations Bill. Yeah, it's the 268 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: reparations bill that's supposed to see and determine you know, 269 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: who gets reparations and how much reparations. Well, let's take 270 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: it a step further. The state of California legislature just 271 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: approved in the past few days a bill that will 272 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: give each African American in the state of California two 273 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three thousand dollars as a reparations paint. 274 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: I think that's a bullish I think Gavin Newson is 275 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: just doing that because reparations is going to be the 276 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: buzzword for twenty twenty four to get black people energized. 277 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: It is, and it's also a trap. Now, first of all, 278 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: the reparations movement comes out of the Pan African This movement, 279 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: we gave birth to reparations. It's not anything new, that's 280 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: our thing, although it's for the whole people, a cash 281 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: payout for reparations is a trap. And the reason the 282 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: cash payout for reparations is a trap is because so 283 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: much of what needs to be fixed in American society 284 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: for African people, will take more than cash to do it. 285 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: In other words, I give d DJ injury two hundred 286 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: and thirty three thousand dollars, or if I take the 287 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: Bob Johnson plan, he said, each American African is do 288 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, right, I give you 289 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Does that stop mass incarceration? 290 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: Does that stop miseducation? Does that stop gentrification? Does that 291 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: stop police genocide? Does that guarantee as access to wealth? 292 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean, in the state of California, what can you 293 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: get with two hundred and thirty three thousand dollars? I'm 294 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: not even sure if that's enough for a house. And 295 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: on top of that, the minute they give you the payment, 296 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: they can reduce the value of the pa AIM through inflation, 297 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: so I can flood the economy with money, so the 298 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: two thirty three is only worth one twenty and about 299 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. And then that's what they're gonna do. 300 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: After they give their reparations to African people. They're going 301 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: to find subsidy programs to give to the LGBTQ, to 302 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: the women, to immigrants, to other people. So at the 303 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: end of the day, what looked like a step up 304 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: for black people would be a step back if I 305 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: was in charge of the reparations. Conversation Number one, control 306 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: of all Black music must only be done through the 307 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: Black community. No non African can control our music. Prince 308 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Biggie Tupac. If the publishing, if 309 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: the marketing, if the promotion, if the recording is not 310 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: controlled by Black people, that has to change. We own 311 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: our own music. Nobody can own self produce, published, promote 312 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: black music but black people. Because music is one of 313 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: America's leading export industries. America makes more money off black 314 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: music than almost anything else that she sells. So if 315 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: we control the music, we have a steady stream of 316 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: global revenue where we can build up Black Wall Street 317 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: in every single city in America for black people. That's 318 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: how much money will be coming in from black music. 319 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: That's one. Two. All Black inventions return to us permanently. 320 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: Everything we invented is a permanent pattern for Africans and 321 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: if you want to use it, you must pay us 322 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: a percentage. The cell phone we invented that Internet. That's ours. 323 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: Helicopter that's ours self lubricating engine, the microphone, the stop 324 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: sign Milwaukee talkie. While those lights on right now because 325 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: a black man named Lewis Latimer wrote a textbook that 326 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: taught China, the UK, Canada, in America how to light 327 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: up a whole city at night. Without Lewis Latimer, you 328 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: don't get street lights at night. You don't get constant 329 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: illumination anywhere in the world. So guess what, anybody running 330 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: lights you're paying Black people. Take back ownership of our music, 331 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: take back ownership of our inventions. Next on the list 332 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: is all the confiscated lands. We had hundreds of thousands 333 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: of acres of land stolen from US between eighteen sixty 334 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: five and Malcolm's assassination in nineteen sixty five. We need 335 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: to put together a research team that's going to investigate 336 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: all the land that was stolen from African people and 337 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: return it back. Since most of our people are dealing 338 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: with homelessness. We have the highest homelessness rate in Black 339 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: America since the sixties. If we can get our land 340 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: back that will go a long way to getting a 341 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: lot of our single mothers in their children off the street. 342 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: In addition to that, America has about ten major exports gold, oil, water, electricity. 343 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: We get a twenty five percent cut permanently. This is perpetual. 344 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: Every time America makes a dollar, we get twenty five 345 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: cents of that dollar as part of the reparations payment. 346 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: American African sixty percent of US make up ten states. 347 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: All ten of the states that represent sixty percent of 348 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: US are seaboarding states. We should automatically control the port 349 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: so we know what's coming in, what's going out, and 350 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: we also get a percentage of that. But here's my 351 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: biggest issue with reparations three one psychological damages. I'm not 352 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: hearing enough of the reparations talking heads discuss enough about 353 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: the psychological damages. You know, you can get far more 354 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: from what you're old psychologically than you can ever get 355 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: for two hundred forty three years of unpaid labor on 356 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: the plantation. The psychological damage is what affects us the most. 357 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Every time you see a black man with a white woman, 358 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: that's psychological damage. Every time you see a black woman 359 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: with a blind wig on the head. That's psychological damage. 360 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: Every time you see a little black boy or girl 361 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: playing with a white doll instead of a black doll, 362 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: that's psychological damage. Where you see a black man take 363 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: the life of another black man, that psychological damage. America 364 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: owes us more for the psychological holocaust than she can 365 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: ever owe for the labor. So we need to talk 366 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: more about that. In addition to that, I don't hear 367 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: nobody talking about the role the a Rabs played in 368 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: the Transatlantic slave trade. I don't hear anybody talking about 369 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: the role that the European Jews played in the slave trade. 370 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't hear nobody talk about the role that the 371 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: Catholic Church played in the slave trade. If we're gonna 372 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: talk about reparations, bring every group that was responsible, those 373 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: who finance the slavesh Nigerians too, Okay, let's talk about that. 374 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: There was participation from some African kingdoms. We know that Dahomie, 375 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: for example, which was popularizing the Lion King movie, the 376 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Woman King movie. There was some African participation. But guess what. 377 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: The Transatlantic slave trade was a European operation. It was controlled, 378 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: it grew, it was financed by Europeans when many of 379 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: the African nations found out what was really being done 380 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: to us. Because in Africa there was no concept of 381 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: chaddow slavery. There was no such thing as owning people forever. 382 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: There was no such thing as perpetual ownership of an 383 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: entire family line or bloodline you understand we had. There 384 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: was no such thing as being dehumanized. European slavery stripped 385 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: African people of our humanity. There's no precedent for that 386 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: in the world before European chaddow slavery. They didn't know 387 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: what they were getting into. They were wrong and can 388 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: be held accountable. But let's not take the onus off 389 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: of the true power structure behind slavery, and that was 390 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: the White Man. Oh Portuguese was in it, the Dutch 391 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: was in it, the Italians was in it, the Germans 392 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: was in it. Who didn't have a hand either in 393 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: slavery outright or colonization that came after it. And when 394 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: you factor in colonization with slavery, you can't possibly blame 395 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: an African nation for that because they suffered during colonization 396 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: as much as we did in slavery. So I reject 397 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: any proposal that wants to make African people more liable 398 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: for slavery than the white people who owned, controlled, expanded 399 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: and benefited. Yeah, they're definitely not more liable. It's just 400 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: like you said, everybody are equally equally. Everybody needs to 401 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: be at the table. Absolutely, But Africa don't owe us reparations. 402 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: They owe us as a people internal reparations, just like 403 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: we owe ourselves as a people internal reparations. Here's what 404 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: I want to say. We are entitled to reparations. We 405 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: will get it. But let us be clear something. Money 406 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: isn't going to fix many of the problems that we have. 407 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: Money isn't going to stop the back and forth accusations 408 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: and tearing down that's going on all over the internet 409 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: between black men and black women. Money not going to 410 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: stop that. Money ain't gonna make the black man love 411 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: the white woman anymore, you understand me. Money is not 412 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: going to remove the self hatred complex that so many 413 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: African people have within us. There's so much that we 414 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: have to do on our own that money cannot buy. 415 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: So anybody who thinks that money is going to reverse 416 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: the psychological holocaust is insane. It does has its place, 417 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: but it is not a panacea for all of our problems. 418 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: And I am of the opinion that if you don't 419 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: change the way we think before we get reparations, if 420 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: you don't build an infrastructure for African people before we 421 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: get reparations, you change nothing else about African people. Damn. 422 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: Can we please talk about Jerry Jones? Yes, posted a 423 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: picture they try to sland there over the summer. I 424 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: guess it was a video of you. I guess ver 425 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: jungle fever in the mall. Okay, let me tell you 426 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: what happened. I thought we talked to him about that. 427 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: Al somebody tried to hack my phone an iPhone. It 428 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: went out, My phone never went out. I call iPhone. 429 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: They say, okay, we have an appointment for you. I said, 430 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm in Philadelphia, Apple closest placed Cherry Hill Mall. Apple Store. 431 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: No problem. I ain't got no phone. I need my phone. 432 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: I go to Cherry Hill. Yes, sir, so I go 433 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: to Cherry Hill Mall. They're working on my phone. It's 434 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: taking forever for my appointment to come up. I said, 435 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: let me find something to do. I go get me 436 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: some suits, go back, get the phone fixed. I'm on 437 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: my way out the mall. I'm done. I see him 438 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: standing in the middle with incense, oils, crystals. I'm into 439 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: all that. I said, okay, this must be a sister. 440 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: Let me go over here. I'm looking through the instance. 441 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: Young white lady come around, She said, can I help you? 442 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: I said this, sh'll stay because I'm like, you know, 443 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: because this was black people's stuff, you know what I mean, 444 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: something like? She said. She had a little foreign accent. 445 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: I said, no problem. So I buy some incense. A 446 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: brother stops by. Can I take a picture? Shore, I 447 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: get a rock? Sister come by? Can I take a picture? 448 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: Some more you've come by? Can I take a picture? 449 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: The white girl started looking at me like, who are you? Like, 450 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: why is everybody stopping asking you for a pitchure? I said, 451 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm doctor, um, I'm a psychologist. She pulls out her phone. 452 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: She said, well, let me see where you are. I said, 453 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: go to YouTube, typing Umar Johnson breakfast club. That's exactly 454 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: what That's exactly what I tok. So she pulls out 455 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: of a phone and she go to john said breakfast club. 456 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: She said, that is you. I said, that's me. Some 457 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: coons at a nearby restaurant are feeling the whole thing. 458 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: But when they posted, they don't post the prelude to 459 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: the conversation. If they would have showed everybody stopping, they 460 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: would have knew she must have been curious about ye. 461 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: They cut that off and they just showed me with 462 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: her phone, like I'm giving her my number? Can I 463 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: get your number? Baby, blah blah blah blah blah. All 464 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: I was doing was confirming that that's who I am. 465 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: Don't you know they went up there and interviewed her. 466 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: You know, all week the people that recorded you Nick 467 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: Ross from you two ran to the Cherry Hill mall. 468 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: They gotta sat down with the snow bunny. Are you 469 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: wanted Doctor Umar's wives? Is what they were trying to 470 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: figure out. And she told the truth though, and I 471 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: appreciate it, but she said all he did was shot. 472 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to know who he was. Everybody was stopping 473 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: to talk to him. He told me to pull out 474 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: go to YouTube breakfast club, and he was just confronted, 475 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: picked up my bag and walked off. They didn't even 476 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: show me walk off. I don't think you realize how 477 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: funny it is. That's like a doctor Umar trap. We're 478 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: gonna set up the incense in the rocks over there, 479 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: snow Bunny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was crazy. But I'm 480 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: glad she was honest because she could have she could 481 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: she could have said he tried to get at you 482 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I think people think you 483 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: hate white people, white people. I have conversations without white 484 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: folks all the time, A raps Chinese, East Indian. I 485 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: have people who watched my work from all over the world. 486 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: I would just stop in the airport by an Asian 487 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: who works for but he caught a security US. He 488 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: came right over too, I'm taking my shoes off and said, hey, 489 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm a big but forty year old Asian man. I'm 490 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: not sure if he was Chinese the Japanese, but he said, 491 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of your work. Keep on doing 492 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Asian had a group of white boys 493 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: run up to me at the airport I was in Dallas, Texas. 494 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Can we take a picture? I took the picture. Why 495 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: do I do that? People say, why do you take 496 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: pictures when white folks stop you? Because it's important for 497 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: the world to know that my agenda is not hate. 498 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: My agenda is African liberation. I'm opposed to white supremacy. 499 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to white people. My priority is my 500 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: own people, but I have nothing against shorts. I'm unapologetically African, 501 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: but the problem is historically any black man who is 502 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: unapologetically African, Malcolm, the Honorable Marcus Garvey, Stokely, Carmichael uh 503 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: He repeat Newton, anybody who was that way, we will 504 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: automatically brand it as auntie. Everybody else that is not true. 505 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: We are Africans. We are the original humanitarians of the 506 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: planet Earth. We have never been against another people. But 507 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm unapologetically committed to my own and white people. You 508 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: just don't. I don't hate nobody. I became a psychologist 509 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: to help people, and in my work I do work 510 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: with all races, but my priority is my own because 511 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: we need them the most. Help. Charity starts at home 512 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: and so therefore I make no apologies about being for 513 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: black people. I make no apologies about saying a black 514 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: man has no business being with another woman Emay Udoka 515 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: and T. J. Holmes. I make no apologies about that 516 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: because we got to save ourselves. No, let's go to jail. 517 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: Let's style you feeding now. And by the way, what 518 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: doctor Umar saying other communities say that, and nobody has. 519 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: Nobody says nothing. Nobody says nothing. Okay, he made Udoka 520 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: and TJ. Holmes. First of all, what they did was wrong. 521 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: You had no business having relations with another man's wife. 522 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: If in fact those women were married, It's wrong. Husband, 523 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: white black purple is wrong. Adultery is wrong, but it's 524 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: even more wrong because you chose to go outside your 525 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: community and do it. It's even more wrong because you 526 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: chose to go into the white power structure and do 527 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: it there. They were not chastised because they committed adultery. 528 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: Celebrities do it all the time. They were not chastise 529 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: for that. They were chastise for because they failed to 530 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: keep in mind that white black men get the white 531 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: women that other white men genuinely do not want. You 532 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: don't get the top of the line white women. You don't. 533 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: You get leftovers. Look at most of our celebrities. They don't. 534 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: They did not marry women who came from the richest 535 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: white families. Black money and white money don't behave the same. 536 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: New black money and old white money have two totally 537 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: different personalities. New black money would jump on any poor 538 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: white girl and make her a billionaire, Tiger Woods, rich 539 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: white woman. Rich white money doesn't operate that way. You 540 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: see the sin of em Udoka and the sin of T. J. 541 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: Holmes is you had an affair with a white man's wife. 542 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: This is a desirable white woman. Somebody loves her and 543 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: is married to her, and you had the audacity to 544 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: take away from her husband being a Negro. That's why 545 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: they had to be sat down. And if I could 546 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: speak with emy Udoka, I would have to ask him. 547 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: On top of all that, you chose a woman from 548 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: the Mormon Church? Was the family is Mormon? The Mormon's 549 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: historically one of the most racist denominations of the Christian religion. 550 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: Did you know they did not ordain black ministers until 551 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight. The most favorite famous leader Brigham Young. 552 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: He said the devil was black, and he also justified 553 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: the enslavement of African people by way of the curse 554 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: of Canaan. Ham was cursed for uncovering his father's nakedness 555 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: and as a result of that curse be the first 556 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: born Canaan. So the Mormon Church and Brigham Young and 557 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: the other leaders said that black people's skin was black 558 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: and eye here was nappy because of the curse of Canaan, 559 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: and that justified our enslavement. He did get done about 560 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: it that deep, but he was just probably hitting something. 561 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: He don't think he was thinking about it. But here's 562 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: my point. If you're going to sleep with a white woman, 563 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: you don't go to the KKK and get one. You see, 564 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: look at the other brother Everett, the young basketball player 565 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: from Louisiana State University. This year, he visited his white 566 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: girlfriend in Boise, Idaho. She takes him to a Mormon wedding. 567 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: She should know better. They didn't let him in because 568 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: he's black. Then he goes whitewater raft and with the 569 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: snow Bunny and three friends, they fall off the raft. 570 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: Now he's an athlete, six foot whatever. She's a white girl. 571 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: She survives. He dies. Nobody looks for his body. It 572 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: was a strange who called the police and said he 573 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: was missing. He turned up dead a couple of days later. 574 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: Another Mormon, Why did his parents let him go visit 575 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: a white girl in Boise, Idaho? And why are you 576 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: going to a Mormon wedding? And eme Udoka, why are 577 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: you sleeping with a Mormon woman When you look at 578 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: the history of the Mormon people. I'm not saying everyone, 579 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: but structurally and systematically they have been against black folks. 580 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: So my goodness, if you're gonna do it, find a 581 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: liberal or something, you don't get a Mormon. It's absolutely 582 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: ridiculous that they did that. But they were wrong in 583 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: what they were doing. But they're being punished, not for 584 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: a doll three, they're being punished for being black men. Yeah, 585 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: him with white women, with t J. Holmes, I think 586 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: that they are about to demonize him in a real way, 587 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: like they even already put out a story that he 588 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: was having multiple affairs. But they're going to get him. 589 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: You are not allowed to touch the white women that 590 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: white men have claimed or considered to be marriage worthy. 591 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: You get the leftovers, our athletes, our celebrities, they all 592 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: got leftovers. They do not get top of the crop 593 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: white girls and email who dons. TJ. Holmes made a 594 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: mistake of messing with women, white women who are untouchable, 595 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: made untouchable by white males. So top of the crop 596 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: white women is married, financial status, or just women that 597 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: are bloodline. Okay, you have to come from one of 598 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: them families with them names. It could also be financial 599 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: as well. You follow what I'm saying. But white men 600 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: determine who those women are, and it's normally a mix 601 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: of income, status and bloodline as well as occupation. You 602 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: follow what I'm saying, they're not poor, they don't come 603 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: from poor means. They're not a first generation millionaires. You 604 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: understand Black men don't generally get those women, and married 605 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: white women are automatically included in that by virtue that 606 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: they've been claimed by white man. I don't ask you 607 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: something doc for you. Have you was seeing an interracial 608 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: relationship that was acceptable to you? No interracial relationship is 609 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: acceptable because we have too many Black women who are unmarried. 610 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: Black women are the largest population on the planet Earth. 611 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 1: If you can't find one in America, get it from Africa. 612 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: If you can't get it from Africa, go to the Caribbean, 613 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: go to Canada, go to Europe. Why would a black 614 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: man need to copulate build a family with anything other 615 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: than a black woman when you have so many black 616 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: women available. It is an exercise in self hatred. There's 617 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: no way to get around it. Do you think Kanye 618 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: was if he had a black woman, things would be different? Oh? Absolutely? 619 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: I think Kim Kardashian used him, and the fact that 620 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: they're making that man pay two hundred thousand dollars a 621 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: month in child support when both he and the wife 622 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: are billionaires are absolutely ridiculous. I think they want to 623 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: break him. I think they want to break him. And 624 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: although I don't agree with the weight in which Kanye 625 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: articulated some of his thoughts, I appreciate the fact that 626 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: he was the first black man since Michael Jackson to 627 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: speak truth to power, to specifically identify certain communities of 628 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: Europeans who have exploited gangster rap, black and attainers and 629 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: other people since its inception, and nobody has called him out. 630 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: He's the first to do it since Michael Jackson. But 631 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: when Michael did it, he wasn't in his prim Kanye 632 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: did it in his prime. I can't give Kanye in 633 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: no respect because I've never seen a black man seek 634 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: more white validation than Kanye. Well, that's the issue. Kanye 635 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: is not choosing a side. One day it's about saving 636 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: our people. The next day, you want to date with 637 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: another snow bunny. One day, it's about helping the old press. 638 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: The next day you're campaigning for Donald Trump. One day 639 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: it's about being independent. The next day, I'm hearing about 640 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: you going into business with some with some white man. 641 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: Make up your mind. I think Kanye is trying to 642 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: figure out where he is, but he got to make 643 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: up his mind because you're too health the skelter. And 644 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: at this point, I'm gonna be honest with you. Although 645 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate Kanye's honesty, I think most of his agenda 646 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: is about Kanye. And I'm gonna say that because when 647 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: I look at our black billionaire class, whether it's Kanye, 648 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: whether it's Oprah, whether it's jay Z, whether Tyler Perry, 649 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: even if he's no longer in that class, none of them, 650 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: Lebron Puffy, none of them have built an independent black 651 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: institution for the black community anywhere in this country. Not one. 652 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: How many lashes would Kanye get, Kanye would probably get. 653 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm still working on Kanye lash count because I want 654 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: to see where he ends up. I need him to 655 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: make up his mind and then stay there, and I 656 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: need him to be a little bit more articulate but 657 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: what he says, because although I think Kanye is on 658 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: the right track, he's not articulating himself well enough. He's 659 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: not controlling his public narrative. So when I do interviews 660 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: like this or any interview, I go out of my 661 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: way to be careful with my wording so nobody can 662 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: try to use it against me later. You have to 663 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: try to control your narrative. And he will get on 664 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: a platform and say some things that he may not 665 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: even believe, just for the shock value. And you're now 666 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: giving the media the opportunity to brand you something that 667 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: you are not. That's worse to me though. If you 668 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: don't if you don't even have no real intention, or 669 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: you don't even know what the hell you're saying, that's 670 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: so anti intellectual. Well, the issue is Kanye. I think 671 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: he's very brilliant, but I also think he's dealing with 672 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: some unaddressed mental health issues. That's true. That is true. 673 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: You say none of them have built the institutions and 674 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: and and I would not put them on the same 675 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: level as a Kyrie Irving because I believe Kyrie is 676 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: one hundred percent genuine in his thinking. I think he's 677 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: very thought out, and I think Kyrie does a good 678 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: job of controlling his narrative. And I think that community 679 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: that tried to destroy him could be accused of being 680 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: hypocritical because Jeff Basos, the one hundred and thirty nine 681 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: billion dollar owner of Amazon, has just issued a statement 682 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: a few days ago they're not removing the DVD. That 683 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: was Jeff bass That was the other That was the 684 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: current CEO of Amazon. Okay, but Jeff Basos is still 685 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: the owner, isn't he He's got a percentage in it. 686 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: But it was the current The first who made that 687 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: statement was the curren CEO. Okay, current CEO Jeff Bezos. Whoever. 688 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: Amazon is not pulling a DVD. They have not been 689 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: accused of being an anti Semitic, They have not been 690 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: accused of being racist. They have not being accused of 691 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: being a hate monger of any other people. So if Kye, 692 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: if Kyrie can be accused, evolve that for sharing a 693 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: video that he was not in. How is it that 694 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: Amazon gets none of the smoke when they said they're 695 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: not going to pull Jonathan Black yesterday and I asked 696 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: the same question he said, and he said, they have 697 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: been giving them the smoke. They wrote the smoke. They 698 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: wrote them letters the same thing. They didn't wrote the letter, 699 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: but they tried to destroy Kyrie's career. Not no damn 700 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: letter but they also said that it's illegal in what 701 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: state in Germany? So that's a country in Germany the 702 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: country to actually have that. I guess so because of 703 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: the denoification of Germany. I forgot how he worded it. 704 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: I think he was saying that did. But Amazon is global, 705 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: that's one contract, so because they can't sell it in 706 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: Germany acceptable. No, they don't want it up period. But 707 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: but you know, but where is the media campaign by 708 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: them to crucify Amazon the way they crucify Kanye Excuse 709 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: me Kyrie for sharing the video that Amazon is making 710 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: millions of dollars off I will say hypocritical, say knocking 711 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: them up. I feel like sometimes we can't be selective moralists, 712 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 1: but sometimes we, as in black people on social media, 713 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: make these stories bigger because if we want it, like 714 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: the breadfall situation Amazon, if we talked about those situations 715 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: like we talk about other things, we would create those campaigns. 716 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: But the white media made Kanye's excuse me Kyrie situation 717 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: an issue. So if you're gonna make it an issue 718 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: for Kyrie, white media making an issue for Amazon, white media, 719 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: I mean the white media did report on it when 720 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: when Adele didn't get the same energy. I think I 721 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: get the same That's a double sting because of what 722 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: we talk about. And anybody anybody who practices selective morality, 723 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: whether you're European Jew, whether you a revolutionary Pan Africanists, 724 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: whether you're a socialist, a Christian or Muslim of Hebrew, 725 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: selective morality's hypocrisy because what I'm saying, if Envy does it, 726 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: it's wrong and he should be punished. If Charlotte Mane 727 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: does it, it's okay. Amazon is still selling it. They 728 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: have yet to be branded by the ADL. Anybody else's 729 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: anti Semitic, that's hypocrisy. That's that's hypocris. That's one of 730 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: the questions I asked Jonathan Greenblad. I said, you know, 731 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: it feels like um when when when we do something 732 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: there's consequences for yes, So I asked them, how do 733 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: you punish that level of white privilege? How do you 734 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: punish it down? They're not going to ton of ships 735 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, white supremacy requires 736 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: commitment and loyalty from all groups of white people. They 737 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: may have their internal differences, but at the end of 738 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: the day, they all agree that black people must be 739 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: kept in their place. The Kyrie and Kanye issue was 740 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: more about suppressing free speech for hetero sexual black males 741 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: than it was about anti Semitism or anything like that. 742 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,479 Speaker 1: Look at Tiffany Cross. She says something on your show. 743 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: They cut her. They made Jalen Rose take back what 744 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: he said about the fact the woman at the heart 745 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: of the email Udoka scandal has never been exposed she 746 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: cheated on her husband. Why is Emay Udoka all over 747 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: the media, but the white woman who cheated on her 748 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: husband is not all over the media. It's a double standard, 749 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: and we are not calling out the double standard. If 750 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: wrong is wrong, it should be wrong for everybody. This 751 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: is not about right or wrong. This is about suppressing 752 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: the First Amendment freedom of speech rights of hetero sexual 753 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: blackmails who do not endorse the European narrative. That's what 754 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: it's not. Get any of that you said. The only 755 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: thing I pushed back on is man, I do not 756 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: like seeing people proper up Kanye was bro because Kanye 757 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: was is the most anti black Negro out here, and 758 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: I do not like when people just why do you 759 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: say that? Why do you say he's so inside about them? 760 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: Look at who he chooses to be with and and 761 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: even when he had those billion dollar companies, what was 762 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: under the hood of those companies, Doctor Uma? Where was 763 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: his black staff? I agree? Where was his black leadership? Agree? 764 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: You know? And that's why right now, as I just 765 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: said a minute ago, I believe Kanye's agenda is what's 766 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: best for Kanye. I don't think it's about what's best 767 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: for black people until he shows me something else. I 768 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: really believe he did what he did to get freed 769 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: of them contracts because he has the brand, in the 770 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: platform and the status now out where he could probably 771 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: make his own sneakers and make his own music and 772 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: probably sell as much, if not more than he did before. 773 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: I believe so. I believe so Kanye is big. Charlemagne's 774 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: a football team, ballas Cowboys. Yes, and the owner Jerry Jones. 775 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: Listen to this. Here's another example of selective morality. How 776 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: is it? Brett Farve and I'm coming to Jerry stole 777 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: about seventy million hours of poor people's money from Mississippi 778 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: to help his daughter's college build a volleyball fiel to something. 779 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: But it wasn't that much. It was up the million, 780 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't seventy it was million doubles, it was millions, 781 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: it was multi millions. Anyhow, he don't get indicted, He 782 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: don't get charged. No charges are being brought against Brett Farve. 783 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: If a black man did the same thing, you and 784 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: I know, he gets crucified. Look at the double standard 785 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: in the select the morality. Now let's come to Jerry Jones. 786 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: It's the same Jerry Jones who never high the black coach. 787 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: Same Jerry Jones, during the Colin Kaepernick protests of twenty sixteen, 788 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: said if any of my players are caught quote unquote 789 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: disrespecting the American flag by taking a knee, They're not 790 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna play on my team no more. This is that 791 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, who never stood up against any of the 792 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: racism in the state of Texas. And he gets caught 793 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: in the picture September ninth, nineteen fifty seven North Little 794 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: Rock High School. And then he commits three lies when 795 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: asked about this picture. He was part of a mob 796 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: to deny a group of African Americans entry into North 797 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: Little Rock High School. He says he was just there 798 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: to be curious. He says neither he nor any of 799 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: the other white boys or people there knew what they 800 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: were going to get into. That's lie number one. Jerry 801 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: Jones had already admitted that his coach told him not 802 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: to go nowhere near that there would be trouble there. 803 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: So how is it you didn't know what you was 804 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: going into and nobody else there knew what you was 805 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: going into when your coach told you it might be 806 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: trouble and stay away from it. That was an absolute lie. 807 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: And then when he was asked whether he regretted being there, 808 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: he never answered the question, where is Roger Goodell? Where's 809 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: the NFL? Why isn't he being given a list of demands, 810 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 1: just like Kyrie was being given a list of demands? 811 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: And check this out to make matters worse, guess what 812 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: else happened. On September nine, nineteen fifty seven, DJ President 813 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: Dwight D. Eisenhower signs the nineteen fifty seven Civil Rights 814 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: Bill creating the Civil Rights Commission within the Department of Justice, 815 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: first act of civil rights legislation since eighteen seventy five. 816 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and arrest of them kids, they knew that 817 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: they were there to repudiate that presidential signing. They were 818 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: also there because what happened five days before that. What 819 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: happened on September fourth, nineteen fifty seven, the Little Rock 820 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: ten trying to get into Central Rock Central High School, 821 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: and Governor Farbs of Arkansas instructed the National Guard not 822 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: to let them in. They were called the N word, 823 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: they were spit on, they were beat on, they were threatened, 824 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,720 Speaker 1: they were terrorized by white folks. Five days earlier, Jerry 825 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: Jones knew exactly what he was going to get into 826 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court just outlaw school desegregation three years earlier, 827 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: on May seventeenth, nineteen fifty four, he knew exactly why 828 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: he was going. He was going to stop black people 829 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: from coming into North f the Rock. Now, Stephen A. 830 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: Smith says, Jerry Jones don't deserve this. He don't deserve 831 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: to be held accountable for his part in supporting one 832 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: of the most racist events in American history, which was 833 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: the desegregation of America schools. He shouldn't be held accountable. 834 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 1: Stephen A. Says, since this happened sixty five years ago, 835 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: he should get it pass. Because Stevenay is probably up 836 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: to one hundred and fifty thousand lashes right now for 837 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: his coning. But listen, if Jerry Jones get it passed 838 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: because he's fourteen, why didn't Matill get it passed? He 839 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: was fourteen? Tommy or Rice Ohio, he was twelve? Where 840 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: his pass at? What about the brother in Gulfport, Mississippi 841 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: two months ago? Jaheen Jalen. I'm forgetting his name shot 842 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: in the head coming out of a dollars store with 843 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 1: his hands up? Where was his past? Tray Vine was seventeen? 844 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: Where was his past? Look at all the young black 845 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: boys who are tried as adults in America's prisons right now, 846 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: serving time in adult prisons under the age of seventeen. 847 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: Where they passed at? Stephen A? Why are we protecting 848 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: privileged white men? And you know what makes it so sad, 849 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones don't even have to defend himself. He got 850 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: black men who will jump up. Did you see Michael Irvin? 851 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: This uncle remus? Michael Irvin says, Oh, he wasn't at 852 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: the front of the line. So because he wasn't at 853 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: the front of the line, he less racist than the 854 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: ones who's at the front. Oh he don't look like 855 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: the guy with the cigarette in his mouth. Jerry Jones 856 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: is a righteous man and a great man. All white 857 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: people worked that way back in the day. This is 858 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: Michael Irvin. All white people work that way back in 859 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: the day. So we're supposed to get Jerry Jones the past. 860 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 1: There's nothing worse. How many lashes for Michael Irvin? Get 861 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: about five thousand lashes for that. No black man should 862 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: ever volunteer himself, stephen A. Smith and Michael Irvin to 863 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: play defense attorney for a white man. Jerry Jones ain't 864 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: thinking about black folks. He has yet to speak up 865 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: on social district justice issues. He is a racist and 866 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: he should be forced to sell the team. But it's 867 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Why because it would take the players 868 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: of the NFL to protest to force them out. And 869 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 1: we already see that our NFL athletes and our NBA 870 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: athletes don't have enough courage. They're more concerned with money 871 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: than they are about the movement. And that's why I'm 872 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: disappointed in Dion saying that I don't think there's no defense. 873 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I don't think there's no defense 874 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: for Jerry Jones, and there's no defense for stephen A. 875 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: Smith and Michael Irvin defending him either. Let that white 876 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: man speak for himself, and I like what you don't 877 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: take off for black people like that, Stephen A. You 878 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,760 Speaker 1: threw Kyrie under the bus, Shannon Sharp, you threw Kyrie 879 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: under the bus. But soon when a white man mess up, 880 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: and Shannon didn't defend Jerry Jones, but Stephen did and 881 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: Michael did soon when a white man make a mistake, 882 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: every every black man in sports media when it be 883 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: defense attorney for white folks, but have no problem throwing 884 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: black athletes under the bus. And I like what Jay 885 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: William said that you know, shout out to Jay William 886 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones would be forced to denounce anti black 887 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: races and he hasn't, and he should discuss what he's 888 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: learned over the passage. He's a privileged white man. He 889 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 1: just as racis now as he was then. Listen, I've 890 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: been studying psychology in my whole life. I got a 891 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: doctorate in it, I got three master's degrees inn and 892 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: I got two certifications in it. You know what they 893 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: tell you in psychology that the human personality is largely 894 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: fixed by the age of five five five, Jerry Jones 895 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: was fourteen. If you're gonna tell me that Jerry Jones 896 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: is fundamentally a different person now at eighty then he 897 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,439 Speaker 1: was at fourteen. Let me know what major critical life 898 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: experiences Jerry Jones went through that transformed the way that 899 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: he thinks nothing at all. People say, well, we gotta 900 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: give him credit. Dak Prescott talking about look at his 901 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 1: resume since then. Look at his resume since then, Dak Prescott, 902 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,959 Speaker 1: he ain't done nothing to help black folks, and Jerry 903 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: Jones ain't thinking about helping black folks. I don't like 904 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 1: when people who say because he didn't hire a black coach, 905 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: because just because he hired a black coach don't mean anything. 906 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 1: I do agree, but at least his shows you are 907 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: at least concerned about how racism looks on your resume. 908 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is not even concerned about how racism looks 909 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: on his resume. How many lashes give for being a 910 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: cowboy fan still like Eagles? Nah, I'm not watching a 911 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: football nor NBA no more. I'm done what I'm officially done. Brother. 912 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: We cannot be for the black liberation struggle and support 913 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: white corporations and systems that systematically practice and defend white 914 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: privilege and white racism against black people what they did. 915 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: The college cabinet, what about them? They just did to 916 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: get it back. They're not protesting, They're not doing nothing. 917 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: They're not doing protests. Okay, okay, show me a rich 918 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 1: athlete who built a relevant independent black institution in this country. 919 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: Give me one, and let me tell you what they are. 920 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: Independent school. Don't give me no charter school, charter schools, 921 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: a public schools. Don't give me no charter schools. School 922 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: built that is public school, but it has its name 923 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: on it. But you know, Lebron speaks up for black issue. 924 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: I didn't ask you about speaking. Let me go back 925 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: to my question. My question was, name me a black 926 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: celebrity or entertainer who has built a relevant independent black institution. 927 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: But cool, I agree with bank, But is that the supermarket, 928 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: the hospital, manufacturing distribute. It's the heart of a community. Charlemagne, 929 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: take care of the major problems we got just because 930 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: Lebron James got in front of a microphone and undid 931 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: what he did a few weeks ago. And I want 932 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: to give Lebron some props. I appreciated his comments about 933 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and comparing that to the way in which 934 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: they tried to castrate Kyrie shout out to Lebron. But now, Lebron, 935 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 1: don't pull a Shannon Sharpen and stephen A. And right 936 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: after you do something positive or say something good, you 937 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: take it back by going right back to the Django character. 938 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: You understand, he got to be consistent. Speech is not 939 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: enough when you're worth billions to who much is given? Envy, 940 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: much is expected if you're a billionaire talking talking, So 941 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: how can y'all co sign Kanye so much? He don't 942 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: do that? Pull back into the black Kanye spoke a 943 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: significant truth to a significant white pot. I agree. I 944 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 1: have infrastructures full of black people making to ask you again, 945 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: what institution that's relevant has been built by a black 946 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: athlete or celebrity this century? I needed? Did you just 947 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: mean school, banking and relevant? Okay? Lebron James started a 948 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: movement against voter disenfranchiseman walk through the streets of Brooklyn, 949 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: walk through the streets of Harlem, walk through the streets 950 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: of the Bronx, walk through the streets of Queens, walk 951 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: through the streets of Staten Island, and asks black people 952 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: what are the top five problems black people have in America? 953 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 1: I promise you voter suppression. Ain't one voter suppression at one. 954 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: Come on, y'all. If we want to solve our problems, 955 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: we gotta get serious. And black athletes have been coning 956 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: for far too long. I'm concerned about money, been making 957 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 1: a difference. We gotta go. But Dion saying, as you 958 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: were talking about Dean saying, everybody's been texting me about 959 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: this all week. Talk to me about Dion before you 960 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: get into it. You know, Charlemagne Gay Donkey to day 961 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: to people that would criticize. And I'm coming right at 962 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. I'm coming right at let's go. 963 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm coming right at more lashes. When Dion Sanders stood 964 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: against Colin Kaepernick's protest in sixteen, I branded him a 965 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: negro pion. He did, yes, he did. He said he did. He. 966 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: I saw him say it out of his mouth on 967 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: an interview. He said he should not have taken that knee. 968 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: It was wrong. Dion Sanders. I put him in a 969 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: nigro peon camp because he didn't stand with Colin Kaepernick. 970 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: When I heard Dion Sanders was taking a job, I said, Okay, 971 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him his black pass back because here. 972 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: You are one of the top five greatest athletes, arguably 973 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: the greatest football player ever, including Tom Brady. Dion could 974 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: go down as great as that. You go to Jackson 975 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: State HBCU. That's impressive. Now I hear all of a sudden, 976 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: you might be leaving. So he's leaving. Stay with me. 977 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: He's wrong, But I have two levels of wrong. I 978 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 1: got a low level and I got a high. I'll 979 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: explain him to you quickly. My low level. If Dione 980 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: told the administration and the students and the players at 981 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: Jackson State that I'm taking his job, but I need 982 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: y'all to know if something better comes along. As soon 983 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: as it comes along, I may be leaving you. If 984 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: he was that transparent, I didn't see that. I played 985 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: the clip nother day, he said on sixty minutes he 986 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: said that. No, he said he may be leaving. He 987 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: did not say he was leaving after three years. No, 988 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: he said that if a power five school comes along, 989 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: I have to entertain it. I would be a fool 990 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 1: not to and has been saying. No. Deon has always 991 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: been transparent and open about what his goals were. That 992 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: is not no, I disagree with you. He told them 993 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: if it comes as way, he would have to entertain it. 994 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: He never said I would leave you that soon. He 995 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 1: never said I can be gone in three years. What 996 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: does it matter, though, I'm gonna tell you why matter. 997 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: I'm about to tell you right now matters because he 998 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: damned wrong. Now, if he told them, if I'm going 999 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: to go back and study some more. But from what 1000 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: I seen him say, he was not that direct. But 1001 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: if he was, if he was, and that's not what 1002 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: I saw, so we disagree there. But if he was, 1003 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 1: he's still wrong. But it's a low level because at 1004 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: least she was transparent and you gave him informed consent. 1005 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 1: They knew you could leave at any time. Okay, still wrong. 1006 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm explaining a minute now. If he didn't tell them that, okay, 1007 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: and I'm hearing from people who know athletes on that 1008 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: team that they were not told it that way. On 1009 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: sixty minute, Okay, he didn't say it that way, Charlotte meane, 1010 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: I saw that he didn't exactly. If he did not 1011 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: do it that way, that automatically means that Dion Sanders used, abused, 1012 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: and exploited HPCU Jackson State just to be given an 1013 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to show predominantly white institutions that he could coach 1014 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 1: if he only used them as a stepping stone to 1015 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: getting a job at a white college. He was dead wrong. That. 1016 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all why this is bigger than football. 1017 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: What case is the Supreme Court reviewing right now, right 1018 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: now against black black students and colleges. Absolutely, the US 1019 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: Supreme Court right now is reviewing whether or not racially 1020 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: conscious admissions in higher education or unconstitutional. And guess who 1021 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: is bringing the suit Asians? But guess who's funding the 1022 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: suit White people with connections to the six conservative justices 1023 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,439 Speaker 1: on the United States Supreme Court bench. So what they're 1024 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: saying is Asians are discriminated against on the basis of 1025 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: the personality aspect of the admissions process at Harvard, in 1026 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: the University of North Carolina, among other universities. By subjecting 1027 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: Asians to that personality assessment, which includes personality background, socio 1028 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: economic status, culture, This that who you are, what you 1029 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: want to be. Asians are being penalized for the high 1030 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: test scores and grades. So what the Asians want, and 1031 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: what the white folks who are funding the Asians want 1032 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: is they want the Supreme Court to say you cannot 1033 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: include race at all as a factor in higher education admissions. 1034 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: If they throw that out, if they say Harvard cannot 1035 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: use the personality assessment portion of the admissions process, the 1036 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: percentage of Asians that get accepted into PWIS goes up 1037 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: by twenty percent, and the percentage of Black students will 1038 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: plummet by at least fifty percent. You know what that means. 1039 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 1: You are watching the gentrification of black children off of 1040 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: the PWI campus. How is this relevant to Dion Sanders. 1041 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: The reason I'm so personally disappointed in Dion is I 1042 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: thought he was there for a movement, not for money. 1043 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,280 Speaker 1: Meaning Dion Sanders the coach of Jackson State. I foresaw 1044 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: a situation where Dion would hire other coaches, other retired 1045 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: black NFL grades, to coach of the HBCUs, and doing so, 1046 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: you track our top tier high school athletes to come 1047 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: to ABCU. Stay with me, Stay with me, stay with me, 1048 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: footballing back. You know, like I know, if you got 1049 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: top tier NFL greats coaching HBCUs the athletes to come in, 1050 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: they was coming for d I. He showed you, He 1051 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: showed you, And there's other ones, and there's other ones 1052 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 1: just as great. So let's say the Georgia Tennessee State. 1053 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,240 Speaker 1: That's one person. We're talking about a system, not an individual. 1054 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,840 Speaker 1: So Don and these other coaches bring all these athletes 1055 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: from high school to play football basketball. So for the 1056 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,399 Speaker 1: revenue of the HBCU goes up, Envy. As a result 1057 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: of the revenue going up, Charlemagne, the school's got more money. 1058 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: They don't have to subject themselves to closure. They have 1059 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 1: to subject themselves to being dependent on white money. You 1060 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 1: got HBCUs at risk of being closed. I read something 1061 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: that said almost a half of them, a half may 1062 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: not survive the decade. So this was bigger than football. 1063 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 1: This was about the survival of the HPCIU. Especially. No, no, no, 1064 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: we've stopped trying to Did you stop trying to get 1065 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 1: celebrities a pass? Charla May? You're blaming an individual. Is 1066 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: you're blaming black men for not being men, but you know, 1067 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: not blaming that's not being man. That was an unmanly moon. 1068 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: Can you admit one thing Beyon could have went down 1069 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: in history? They brought hpc U is chronically underfunded. Of course, 1070 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 1: were they chronicallyunder funded before Deon? Yes? Would they be 1071 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: chronically underfunded after Dion. Yes, absolutely, those reasons that they 1072 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: chronically underfunded because we as black men have not come 1073 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: together to create the funding source to make sure they survived. 1074 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about the government. We have 1075 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: two black one interview them every day. I'm with you. 1076 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: So so you got you got low uh load donor 1077 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: Lodnor alumni donors. Okay, right, going down? Its correct, that's 1078 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: an US problem. He part of us. Why you keep 1079 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: eximpting celebrity one better than that? He's one person? Okay, 1080 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 1: But the point is that one man could have been 1081 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: a catalyst for a movement that would have revolutionized the 1082 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: survival of h Why does the movement stop just because 1083 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 1: he left HPCUS missing the point? No dressed about Frederick Douglas. 1084 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: But if Frederick Douglas would have pulled out, it would 1085 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: have hurt it. The underground Railroad wasn't just about Harriet, 1086 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: but if she would have pulled out, it would have failed. 1087 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,879 Speaker 1: So what wasn't the king before Deon three years ago? 1088 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 1: They were struggling and he could have helped save it 1089 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 1: and for him to pour out of Jackson State the 1090 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: way that he did it before making sure the HPCU 1091 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: system survived to me was selfish. He chose money over 1092 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: the movement. Charlotte Magne and celebrities do it all the time, 1093 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,479 Speaker 1: and y'all want to give him a pass. Nobody getting 1094 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: no pass. I don't care if Deyon Sanders is. He 1095 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 1: had a chance to help and he hurt, and y'all 1096 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: want to condone that because you black celebrities are not 1097 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: committed to the best interests of black Imagine a question. 1098 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 1: Question When Dion was coaching high school kids for several years, 1099 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, when he was talking about we're talking about HPC, 1100 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get there. When he was coaching high school 1101 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: kids for several is you know black kids, when he 1102 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: was opening up Prime Prep Academy that got closed down 1103 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: because they had financial issues. When he went to Jackson 1104 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 1: State for one point two million dollars before years and said, 1105 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: you know what, you listen, y'all take half this salary 1106 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: and go build a better if you go build a 1107 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: better facility for students, and he got to pay back 1108 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 1: three hundred and after all that, I'm still gonna leave 1109 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 1: Jackson State for a super white college that got a 1110 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: one point six black student. But let me finish my 1111 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: point rate no, No, six black students, which means the 1112 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: only blacks on that campus are the athletes. And you're 1113 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna tell me that that's a step up. You sold 1114 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: us out for money, Bro. Can you say it's about 1115 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: money when he showed, when his track record shows he 1116 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: stayed for three years, that was no commitment. His track 1117 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: record shows that if white people give me the money, 1118 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: I'll turn my back on the HPCNY, what do you 1119 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: talk about. That's what he did. That's what he just did. Disagree. 1120 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 1: Come on, man, if he would have stayed there, if 1121 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: Dionne would have stayed there, like I said, he could 1122 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: have brought other black coaches in former NFL grades. They 1123 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: would have raised the revenue of the HPCU, which is 1124 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: so critical now. Why because the Asians are being financed 1125 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 1: by white folks to kick what little blacks are left 1126 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: on the PWI campus off. So that means the critical 1127 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: importance of the HPCU is greater now than it's ever been. 1128 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,439 Speaker 1: So for d on the poor, this right now makes 1129 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: it even worse because you're leaving the HPCU system when 1130 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: you had a chair stop trying to exempt black celebrities 1131 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 1: from accountability to the race celebrities are not above accountability. 1132 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: Stop how many? How many? For fifty thousand lashes for 1133 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 1: d now? No no no, no, no, no, no shut up? 1134 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: More important question, how much you no, no, no, no, 1135 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: how much you're gonna do to an HPCU today. I'm 1136 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 1: building two independent schools. The first and it's Hitta. If 1137 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna be that how much? Let me answer your question? 1138 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: May I yes? First of all, I'm not a multi billionaire. 1139 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: Second of a finish my question? Can I finish my question? 1140 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: I donate to HBCUs on a regular basis. I do, 1141 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 1: But my point is, I'm focused on destroying the school 1142 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: to prison pipeline. I'm building two independent schools black money. 1143 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: Nobody you've interviewed in this studio ever is doing that, 1144 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: not one of them. You understand me. So I'm doing 1145 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: my part, and that's why I can expect Dion Sanders 1146 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: to do his part. And that's why last years also 1147 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: go to Shannon Sharp. Because Shannon Sharp on national television 1148 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: said he didn't even want to go to an HPCU, 1149 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: He wanted to go to a p WI. And every 1150 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: time celebrities try to do something good, black people want 1151 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: to beat him up. I beg your pardner, Shannon Sharp, 1152 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: I know that you don't date black women. You have 1153 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: no loyalty to black women. Now you want to tell 1154 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 1: the world you have no loyalty to the HPCU. If 1155 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: you didn't want to go to Savannah State, you keep 1156 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 1: that to yourself, you nigropin. You don't tell the whole 1157 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 1: world that you didn't want to go to an HPCU 1158 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: and then try to chid the black community for asking 1159 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders to have a little With all that said, 1160 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 1: doctor Duma, what do we do for HBCUs moving forward? 1161 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Because I just told you Black celebrities have to come together. 1162 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Stop buying chains, stop going to clubs and strip joints, 1163 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: stop with all the expensive clothing, stop cooning, and use 1164 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: some of this disposable income that we spend it on 1165 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Christmas gifts right now and come up with a funding source. 1166 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 1: So many celebrities went to HBCUs, why can't they be 1167 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: the catalyst of a black celebrity and grass roots because 1168 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: we should be paying too absolute movement to finance this. 1169 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm simply saying Dion could have been the face of 1170 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: that and what's beginning to be and he allowed himself 1171 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: to get bought up by White. But he loves the blueprint. 1172 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: That's it. I don't want to hear about even left 1173 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: the blueprint by Harriet Tubman saying I'm not gonna help 1174 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: you on the underground railroad. I'm a lead the blueprint, 1175 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Marcus Garvey, I'm not gonna help you with the independence move. 1176 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 1: That's cowardly, liss Man. I'm not. I can't believe. I'm 1177 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 1: not putting because there's enough of us that can keep 1178 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,439 Speaker 1: these programs sustained if we do what we're supposed to do. Okay, 1179 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 1: but we can't do that with people running away like 1180 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders. That was a cowardly move. He was wrong. 1181 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 1: Fifty and how much Shan Shannon keep Conan shann't gonna 1182 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: get about a hundred by now, Steven and ain't getting 1183 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 1: about fifty thousand. Candice Owens needs about two hundred and 1184 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 1: fifty thousand. Last. Yes, she out there doing documentaries on 1185 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter, which is appropriate because they were wrong 1186 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 1: for misappropriating that money. But where's Candice Owen's documentary on 1187 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: the Brett Farve situation or the Jerry Jones situation. My 1188 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: disagreement with my sister she's letting white folks finance her 1189 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: to embarrass up people publicly. No black person should do that. 1190 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 1: And also, I just want to tell you Doctor Marks 1191 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: gonna be on my late night talk show this week 1192 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a hell of a time. N 1193 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 1: I want your listeners please support the Frederick Douglas Marcus 1194 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Golf Academy. Get on your cash app, dollar sign f 1195 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: DMG school, dollar sign f DMG School, Get on your PayPal, 1196 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: PayPal dot me slash f DMG Academy, PayPal dot me 1197 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: slash f DMG Academy, and make sure you subscribe to 1198 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: my video on demand side www dot dotor umar dot tv, 1199 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 1: www dot d r u m a r dot tv. Parents, 1200 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 1: stop getting your children tested for special lad I'm gonna 1201 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: say this and I'm done. In the post COVID error, 1202 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 1: we're seeing a surge of Black children be put in 1203 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: special at the schools are exploiting the miseducation that our 1204 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: children were subjected to during COVID when they were home 1205 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 1: loaning and learning on the laptop, okay, and they're now 1206 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: using these academic losses as a justification for special LD. 1207 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 1: So I'm telling every black mother and father out there. 1208 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 1: If the school asks you to get your child tested, 1209 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 1: you tell the school that the reason my child is 1210 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: behind grade level in reading on math is because they 1211 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: didn't get adequate instruction during COVID. They're not going to 1212 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: special at get them a tutor from that Tighter one 1213 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 1: money and if your child doesn't go to a tighter 1214 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: one school, you dig in your pocket and you pay 1215 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 1: for a tutor. They don't need an i EP, they 1216 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: don't need special lad, they need a tutor. If you 1217 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 1: need to reach me two one five nine eight nine 1218 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: nine eight five eight two one five nine eight nine 1219 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: nine eight five eight. Black celebrities must be held accountable. 1220 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Make sure you watch Doctor with Modern Night on Hell 1221 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 1: of a Week eleven thirty pm on Comedy Centric. I 1222 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: always appreciate you, doctor, Thank you so much, appreciate you. 1223 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 1: All Right, well we gotta take our flick, right, We 1224 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: got to close it out. Man. It's the Breakfast Club, 1225 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 1: my back, It's the Breakfast Club.