1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Hey, Casey, what's up Millie? 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 2: Not much? How are you good? 3 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: How's your Valentine's Day? 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Ooh you got me? I got you already, I got 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: my assh. So it was great because I kind of 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: planned a little something, a little special. So there is 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: a special event. I don't know if you've ever heard 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: of this movie. It's called Snow and it's from nineteen 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: ninety eight, and it's an indie kind of romance, kind 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: of like a before Sunset style movie. And it's made 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: by a filmmaker named Eric Tretbarr and it was filmed 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. It's a very like Minneapolis movie. And it 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: premiered on the new Sundance Channel when back in like 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: around nineteen ninety eight, when like the Sundance Channel was around, 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: they started premiering like indies on there. Oh, and this 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: was kind of early on in that, and so it 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: was kind of a big deal. So like Redford came 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: to the Twin Cities for the premiere and it kind 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: of got This movie kind of got lost to time 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: a little bit. It never really had a release, it 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: was never in theaters. It was on the Sundance Channel though, 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: and so they did a re scanning of it, like 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: a four K re scan recently, and so they did 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: a twenty fifth anniversary screening of the movie in Minneapolis 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: at the Parkway Theater. The director was there and there 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: was act the actors from the movie are there, and 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: it was like this amazing event and I just like, 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: there aren't that many like indie I like finding like 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: the indie films that were like made in Minneapolis, and 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: it was just like a really cool experience. And it's 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: like a very kind of like it's the Eric Trepptbar. 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: He's kind of from the punk scene in the nineties, 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: and so it had like a lot of it's a 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: lot of like musicians that are in the movie, and 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: it was like really cute and charming and and you know, 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: it reminded me just of like a little bit of 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: like the optimism of the nineties, and it was just 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: kind of it's kind of twee, but like really good. 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: And yeah, I was just like really impressed by the 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: whole thing. And it was like this really cool event 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: at the Parkway Theater. And right next to the Parkway 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: Theater is this place called the Creekside Supper Club. I 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: won't get into what a Midwestern supper club is if 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: you don't know what that is, but it is a 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: specific type of restaurant. A lot of them are in Wisconsin, 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: but they're a lot in Minnesota too, And it's kind 47 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: of like a steakhouse, but it's a little more like 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: a choch key kind of quirky type of steakhouse. I 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: don't know how else to explain it. There's sort of 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: a tradition of this type of steakhouse in the Midwest. 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: And so we had dinner next door to this the theater, 52 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: and we went to this gala and it was very 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: romantic and I really crushed it. 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: I really lovely, lovely, case. 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, thank you. How is your Valentine's Day? 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you. I went to see the Emerald 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Finelle film quote Weathering Heights, end quotes. 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: I don't like that it's in quotations. I noticed that too. 59 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: Well. I've seen an interview where she talks about why 60 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: she did it that way. It's basically like absolving her 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: from being faithful to the original book, which I'm like, 62 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: well played, I get it. So I'm not sure if 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: you know this, Casey, but the nineteen thirty nine version 64 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: of Weathering Heights, of course, the film adaptation based on 65 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: the Emily Bronte novel. It stars Sir Lawrence Olivier and 66 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Merle Oberon. Fucking love that movie destroys my ass. Like 67 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: I've seen it, like it'll come on TV once in 68 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: a while, like on TCM or something, and I just 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: ball like at the end of that movie, I am 70 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: my fucking eyes out, and I just love the feeling 71 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: of the like kind of gothic romance and the whole 72 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: like and oh my god, it's crazy. So quite obviously, 73 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I got to watch this remake. 74 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: And if you look at the poster, the poster of it, 75 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: and this is the one that's like it's like on 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: a white background, is so crazy looking. It kind of 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: looks like a it's either like a hammer movie or 78 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: some like bad eighties like made for TV movie, And 79 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm like really really obsessed with it. 80 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: I don't know, Millie, you have really tapped into something here, 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: because I've seen that trailer a lot lately in the 82 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: theaters and I'm like, damn, I want to see this movie. 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: That looks incredible, like the style that she has chosen 84 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: for this movie. It reminds me of like kind of 85 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: eighties gothic movies like the Company of Wolves if you 86 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: ever seen that movie, where it's like very clearly on 87 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: a set, but like dramatic and kind of like gauzy 88 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: filters on the camera. I don't know, there's something about 89 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: it that I really like, the visual direction of the movie. 90 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, it looks like you, oh my god, it 91 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: looks like a bad Dracula movie or something. 92 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: You're just like, it's like dark shadows as kind of. 93 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Yes, So listen. I I was like, you nailed it 94 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: on the design. I'm like, I don't know what happened here, 95 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: but you got me. And on top of that being 96 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: it's a wathering heights well excuse me a quote wathering 97 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: heights end quote adaptation. So I saw that. I will 98 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: not reveal anything more than that because I feel like 99 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I want to maybe do a longer 100 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: piece about it, if you know what I'm saying, do 101 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: on the show. Maybe maybe, But I'm just telling you 102 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: I saw it, and cool. Yeah that's what I did 103 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: for Valentine's Day? Isn't it perfect for Valentine? 104 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: Very perfect, very perfect. 105 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: Well, on that note, let's talk a little bit about February, 106 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: largely because we are doing an episode that is a 107 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: celebration of Black History months. 108 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 2: Yes, we are, and we're doing. 109 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: A movie that. Well, it's timely because this director has 110 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: a new movie coming out. 111 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: I know, I just saw the trailer. Looks great, looks. 112 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: Great, and it had been a minute really since or 113 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: did he do a movie before this? 114 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: It was called he had a TV show like a 115 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: kind of a short. I don't know what do you 116 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: call that, like a mini series? I guess yeah. It 117 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: was called like I'm a Virgo, okay, and it's like 118 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: with a giant. It looked interesting. I just never saw it. 119 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean neither. But but this movie that we're 120 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: doing this week, which is twenty eight teams Sorry to 121 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: Bother You, directed by the filmmaker Boots Raley, that this 122 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: movie was that I would say, I will say it 123 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: was a sensation when it came out. I knew a 124 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: lot of people that love this movie, including my blow 125 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: my hair back, and we wanted to revisit it because, well, 126 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: namely one because Boots is a new movie coming out, 127 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: but second sort of just going back and we watching 128 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: something that it didn't come out that long ago. It's 129 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: been what nine years? Eight years? 130 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, it's been eight years, Oh my god. 131 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: And so that's probably going to be a large part 132 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: of the episode, is talking about just you know, having 133 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: seen it again in our thoughts, but also just wanting 134 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: to celebrate black creatives, black filmmakers, black artists as you 135 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: do this month. And I was actually curious, Casey, like, 136 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: what is your opinion about the current statewide here's a bit. 137 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: Why don't I just ask you this big question? What 138 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: is your opinion on the current state of filmmakers as 139 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: it relates to black filmmakers. 140 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me just have an answer, a nice tidy, 141 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: twenty second sound by the answer here. You know, like 142 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: all filmmakers, I think it's really difficult for creative ideas 143 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: to get into movies, especially ones with budgets. Yeah, and 144 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: I think black filmmakers have to deal with that, But 145 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: they also have to deal with a lot of other 146 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: social issues. And I think some of these studios are like, well, 147 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: we want the black filmmaker to make a movie about 148 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: how difficult it is to be a black person, And 149 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: maybe black filmmakers don't always want to make a movie 150 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: about the struggle and I'm not saying that Sorry About 151 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: You isn't about the struggle, but it is an insanely 152 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: creative film that feels so unique in that it was 153 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: allowed to get made. You know, it's not a somber, 154 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: you know, three and a half hour epic about the 155 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: slave trade. You know, it is a vibrant, loud, confident, 156 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: visually stunning, creative, goofy movie that is really unique and 157 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: so and I think we've seen a lot of black 158 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: filmmakers lately be the ones who are making more creative, 159 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: interesting films lately. I think of people like Ryan Kugler, 160 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: Jordan Peel, Nia DaCosta just directed twenty eight years later 161 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: The Bone Temple, which I'll talk about more because I 162 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: sawt this week, and I just I think it's black 163 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: filmmakers are doing such incredible work right now and they 164 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: should be celebrated. And they're doing some of the most 165 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: unique work out there right now. So a lot does 166 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: that cover somewhat of what you. 167 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: You did it? I I you know, personally, I think 168 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: it's amazing that Sinners, the Ryan Coogler film that came 169 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: out last year, is has the most nominations this year 170 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: at the Oscars. That'll be interesting to see how that 171 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: plays out, to be honest, because of the Golden Globes, 172 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: it was kind of interesting. I mean that movie was 173 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: nominated a lot, but it didn't win a lot, and 174 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: I just was kind of like, hmmmfully hopefully that's It's 175 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: weird because sometimes, you know, the Golden Globes and the 176 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Oscars like really sync up, and sometimes they totally don't. 177 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. 178 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: But this also happens with movies. Sometimes at the Oscars. 179 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: They'll be like a movie that gets nominated for like 180 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: ten Academy Awards, but it's not necessarily the front runner 181 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: and it loses like all of them. Yeah, Like that 182 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: happens a lot, so I'm kind of worried that's going 183 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: to happen. It certainly deserves Oscars, but I'm like, you know, 184 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: when I think about like the Best Picture of the 185 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: Year or like the Best Actors of the Year, there 186 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: are some I would put above sinners, but it has 187 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: to win something, you know. But I just don't know 188 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: if it's gonna like just because it was nominated for 189 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 2: that many Oscars, I don't think that necessarily means it's 190 00:10:58,720 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 2: going to like win that many. 191 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, So as a filmmaker, would you rather be 192 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: nominated a ship Ton and not win or would you 193 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: rather be nominated once and win? No, it doesn't make 194 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: any sense, doesn't you won? That's what you want, right. 195 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: I would want Yeah, I'd want to I'd want to win, definitely. 196 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting too because like just a few 197 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: years ago, a movie like Sinners wouldn't have gotten nominated 198 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: at all because it is a genre picture exactly, that's 199 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: what empires. So like I root for it in that 200 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: regard as well, because I like when like genre movies 201 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: like uh win the top honor, you know, but it's 202 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: been happening more often lately, so kind of cool. 203 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, shit substance and whatever, like it's. 204 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: That got nominated. Yeah, I mean that was sort of surprising. 205 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: It kind of wants to be too, but you know what, 206 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: like I'm here for it. I'm like, let's put some 207 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: fucked up ship in these Oscar ballots'. 208 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 2: But so, but I feel like Sinners though, just to 209 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: touch upon that, I feel like it such an event 210 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: film this year. I feel like people really went to 211 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: the theaters multiple times to see it. I think it 212 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: is like pure cinema. It's an original, interesting idea that 213 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: has a big budget and we just don't get to 214 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: see that, you know. So uh yeah, well interesting, interesting time. 215 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome talking about Sorry to Bother You. 216 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: We are going to do a little bit of that. 217 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: What else are we doing this episode? 218 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna answer some emails. We got some good emails. 219 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: There's some grapes, groups and grits, and there's some film advice, 220 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: so we'll touch upon both. Great. 221 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: All right, Well, stay tuned, everybody. You are listening to 222 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: Deer Movies. I love you, I love you, and I've 223 00:12:44,480 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: got to love me to check the books. Hello you, 224 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: Hello you, Oh you, you're listening to deer Movies. I 225 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: love you. This is a podcast for those who are 226 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: in love with the cinema. My name is Millie to Cherco, my. 227 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: Name is Casey O'Brien, and Happy. 228 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: Black History Month, everybody. We got a great little episode 229 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: for you today. We're going to talk about Sorry to 230 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: Bother You from twenty eighteen, directed by Boots Relei and Yeah, 231 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: I can't wait to dig in. 232 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: Yes, but we have kind of a special fun announcement 233 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: at the top of the show. We're gonna do something 234 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: with our show that's exciting. We're gonna do an episode 235 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: of and maybe this will be something we continue on forever. 236 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: But we're going to dedicate a whole episode to kind 237 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: of some listeners stories if we get enough good ones, 238 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: that is, and we want people to call in and 239 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: tell us a story off our prompt, which we'll review 240 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: in a moment. But keep these stories under two minutes people, 241 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: if you can, because it's kind of long. But anyways, Millie, 242 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: what's our prompt for this Listeners Stories episode that we're planning? 243 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: So Casey and I want to hear about your movie 244 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: theater date stories. And they could be good or bad. 245 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: Just make them compelling and rich. 246 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: They can be graphic, they can be hot, or they 247 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: can be horrible and embarrassing. You know, we want just 248 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: interesting movie theater date stories. Please. 249 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: Maybe you met your spouse at this movie screening, or 250 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: maybe your partner was murdered at a scratting. 251 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: You feel comfortable sharing that story on the pot. We'll 252 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: listen and we will comfort you. 253 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Maybe your partners bloated after a firecracker was lit in 254 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: mad Max Periosa, Now I listen. We want them all 255 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: we don't want people to be murdered. But also, you know, 256 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: like send us bad ones and good ones and we'll 257 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: take them all. So and what's how do you do that? 258 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so just record record a voice memo on your 259 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: phone and email it to dear Movies at exactlyrightmedia dot com. 260 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: Please try to keep it under two minutes if you can, 261 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: you know, do a few rehearsal recordings before you send 262 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: that final cut in. 263 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be amazing. And we can't wait to 264 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: hear them. It's gonna be the entire episode if we 265 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: can get it. 266 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do it. 267 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait to get these me too. 268 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled. 269 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: Are you gonna say that my nails look great? Oh? 270 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: They do look great? What color are those? Okay? Looks 271 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: like good? 272 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: So this is I wanted blue velvet nails. Ooh so 273 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: and this is I don't know if this is on 274 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: the internet, this is just what I want. But they're 275 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: intog And then I got him to put a matte 276 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: topcoat versus a shiny topcoat. Oh cool, And now they 277 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: just look like Dorothy's dress and blue velvet the movie 278 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: David Lynch. 279 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, it looks like it. I can see it. 280 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: I get. 281 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: I get really into nails when I'm grieving. Ah, and 282 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: I feel like the world is going through a bunch 283 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: of crap. I'm going through crap. You're going through crap. 284 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what, maybe per perk this 285 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: up a little bit as if I get some nails. 286 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know, Thank thank you. I just figured 287 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: you're a man. You need to comment on how great 288 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: my nails are. 289 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is hard on the zoom, I know, but 290 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: I was doing a little business were you're trying to 291 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: get I was kind. 292 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Of notice, this is kind of notice. 293 00:16:54,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: A hand. Uh there, very good. Yes, they look great. 294 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Millie. Let's open the film diary. 295 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 3: Yo. 296 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: Thing is so actually it's not big. 297 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: Mine isn't either, pamphlet sized again, but there is something. 298 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: Do you want to go first? Please you sure? 299 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: I feel like you watched your movie on the Criterion Jam. 300 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: I had to guess, well, no shit slock of course. 301 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: So my movie I mentioned it already. I saw twenty 302 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: eight years Later The Bone Dimple. This movie ripped. It 303 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: was awesome. I thought it was great. I loved twenty 304 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: eight years Later, which came out last year. And that 305 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: was directed by Danny Boyle. I mentioned this already. Nia 306 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: DaCosta directed this latest one, and she's an amazing director. 307 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: I met her before. She was on a previous podcast 308 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: I produced called Switchblade Sisters. She was really nice. She's 309 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: the only guest that asked for a hug. I just 310 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: remember that, and I was like, oh, okay, sure, I 311 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: love it, And she was really cool. So I cheer 312 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: for her always. And yeah, I thought this was awesome. 313 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: It's the most violent and the most scary of the 314 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: twenty eight zombie movie franchise. I would say it is gnarly, 315 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: and it's really good and sweet. And I thought it 316 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: was awesome. It's awesome, and I mean, I love zombie movies, 317 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: so does my wife. But it's hard to make. There's 318 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure to make a good movie when 319 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: you're the like, you know, Danny Boyle has directed the 320 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: last one, and then you're expected to just pick up 321 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: the sequel the next year and have it be good. 322 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: So I that was great. 323 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: Great. It feels like you've been watching a lot of 324 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: bone blank movies lately, Is that true? 325 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: That's true. I watched bone Lake was that last week? 326 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Something like that recently. 327 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm watching a lot of Bone movies. What am 328 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: I gonna watch next? Monkey Bone with Brendan Frasier. That's 329 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: a movie, right, it's a movie. I've never seen it 330 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: better or for worse? Uh, MILLI, what do you got? 331 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I was like Cruise in the 332 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: old Criterion channel, and I noticed that they had Elaine 333 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: Mays a New Leaf from nineteen seventy one under this. Okay, 334 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: there's this theme. 335 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that they. 336 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: Called fresh Starts, which is basically like, I don't know, 337 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: it seems like a New Year's themed theme with a 338 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: bunch of movies that are all about like people who 339 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: want new love or something like that. Yeah, And I 340 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: was kind of like, Okay, Sleepless in the Seattle, Perhaps 341 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: Alice doesn't live here anymore? Sure? Starting over with our 342 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: mad Bert Reynolds. Sure. And then I was like, oh, 343 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: a New Leaf by Elaine may I'm like, I don't 344 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: know if he wants a fresh start Walter Mathou's character. 345 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: Have you seen this movie, by the way. 346 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: I have not, Okay, I'm ashamed to say. And I 347 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: like Elaine May. 348 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: Well here's the tea. I haven't seen it either, which 349 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: is why I watched it, and now that I know 350 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: what I know about it, I was like, is this 351 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: a fresh start? I'm curious? But anyway, that's just me 352 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: being I'm being a finicky programmer. I suppose Yeah, it's 353 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: well and I've definitely played it fast and loose when 354 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: it comes to shit like this. Sure, I far being 355 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: from me to. 356 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 2: Come freeze a new leaf sounds like a fresh start, 357 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: you know, like title wise, it fits, but maybe the 358 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: movie doesn't quite fit well. 359 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a brant reference to the 360 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: idea that the Elaine May character, who plays a botanist, 361 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: is a holding a leaf in a lot of this movie, 362 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: So maybe that's what it means. But the movie is 363 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: ostensibly about Walter Mathow. He's this kind of like trust 364 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: fun baby who like loses his money and then is like, fuck, 365 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: how do I get my money back? I guess I'm 366 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: going to date this like extremely nerdy rich woman and 367 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: then try to murder her at some point. 368 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: Oh that's dark. 369 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's dark, but it is actually like a very 370 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: interesting film. There's a lot of history about it. I mean, 371 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: this was Elaine May's first film that she directed, and 372 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: then she had issues with the final cut of it 373 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: because it wasn't her vision and it's just there's a 374 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: lot of drama, and so yeah, I had always heard 375 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: about this movie and I was like, I gotta watch it. 376 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: I love Walter Mathow, I love he's a craggy hotty. 377 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: So I was like, this is great and it's a 378 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: very charming movie. It plays so differently than I thought 379 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: it was gonna play when I had heard about it 380 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: for all these years. But I liked it so much 381 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: that I went out to my local bookshop, Acapella Books, 382 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: and I bought the biography that the writer Carrie Krogan wrote, 383 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: which is called mis May Does Not Exist, The life 384 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: and work of Elaine May, Hollywood's hidden genius. So now 385 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm I can't wait to read more about it. I 386 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: got to watch The Heartbreak Kid again because I haven't 387 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: seen that forever and that is really hard to find. 388 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: I had to get it's a Minnesota movie, is it really? Yeah? Okay, 389 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: family's from Minnesota. 390 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: I had to I had There were nefarious ways that 391 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: I had to get that film, but I have it. 392 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to go down this path. But anyway, 393 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: a new leaf, that's what I'm logging and technically, yes, 394 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: I did watch quote Wuthering Heights end quote Yes, but 395 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm not logging it because we're putting a pin on it. 396 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: Does that mean yes? Okay? Cool? 397 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: Did I tell you about the time I saw Elaine 398 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 2: May in person? 399 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: Oh? 400 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: When so I was eating dinner with my family at 401 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: Musso and Franks and Hollywood love it. And my mom's 402 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: always like, if you see a celebrity, tap your forehead, 403 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: that's our sign. Like I'll be like, there's a celebrity there, 404 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: and she's like, where, where's a celebrity I want to see? 405 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: Like that that has happened a lot when she visited, 406 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: and so I was like, we came up with this signal. 407 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: So it's like, calm down, and this is the night 408 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: of the Governor's Ball. We were reading at Frank A 409 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: Musso and Frank's and which is this famous steakhouse in 410 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: Hollywood If you don't know, it's there's a scene in 411 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: Once upon a Time in Hollywood in there with Al Pacino, 412 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: Leonardo DiCaprio, and Brad Pitt. It's great. It's a whole thing. 413 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 2: So we're in there in walks in in a tuxedo, 414 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: Bill Murray with Elaine May on his arm, and she's 415 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: carrying an oscar because she won an honorary oscar at 416 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: the Governor's ball. The oscar is in the restaurant. He's 417 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: going around glad handing in the restaurant and I'm like, 418 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: there's a Laine May. And meanwhile, Trisha's the first one 419 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: to see Bill Murray walk in and she starts hitting 420 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: her forehead and my Mom's like, where, where where, And 421 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: I'm like, Bill Murray's right there and Elaine May and 422 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: so that was very exciting. 423 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: That's exciting. Wow, that's a good. 424 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: Citing, good celebsiting. Anyways, let's close up the diarya get 425 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: out here, get out. 426 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: All right. 427 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: Now, it's time for a main discussion on Sorry to 428 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: Bother You from twenty eighteen, Written and directed by Boots Riley. 429 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 2: This is a dark comedy. It's surreal. It's standout actors 430 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 2: include Lakeith Stanfield, Testa Thompson, Steven Young, Armie Hammer, Danny Glover. 431 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: Famous quotes Sorry to Bother You slash stick to the script. 432 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: Millie. 433 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: What's your personal connection to this movie? 434 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I mean, I thought this movie 435 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: was the coolest movie when it came out, I thought 436 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: it was super fun. Just a little side note. When 437 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: I was in college, I worked at my college radio 438 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: station and I had a radio a couple of radio 439 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: shows actually, and I would I remember when so Boots 440 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Rally was in a hip hop group called the Coup 441 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: Maybe Still Is. I don't know if there Still is Okay, 442 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: but one of their albums, Still this album had come 443 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: out and I played it a lot on my radio show. 444 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: So I knew him as a musician before I knew 445 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: that he had directed a film, and so I was 446 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: excited by that though, and I was like, cool, this 447 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be cool because you know their music is 448 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: really political and so it's like, oh, this could be 449 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: like a really cool thing. And yeah seeing it. Big 450 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: fan of Lakeith Stanfield, big fan. I don't know what 451 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: your thoughts are on at him, but he's. 452 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 2: I like Lakeith Stanfield too. Yeah, he's like a like 453 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: a cartoon. He could play goofy. I mean he kind 454 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: of is like this tall, kind of droopy goofball guy. 455 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, he's great. I think he's a great 456 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: actor and I thought he fit in this movie so well. 457 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a big fan of his on Atlanta 458 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: The Donald Glover Show. So I was like, oh man, 459 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: this is gonna be great. 460 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's always a good slacker, Like he is 461 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 2: a good slacker. 462 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got kind of this like, you know, very 463 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: like is it laconic? He's like a very laconic kind 464 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: of actor when he talks. And I love that. But yeah, 465 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: that's it. I mean I was just excited to when 466 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: it came out and then I saw it, loved it. 467 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: So what about you? 468 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, when I saw this, it really blew my mind. 469 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: I mean it was just so vibrant and creative and 470 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 2: funny and political. And you know, we talk a lot 471 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: about like we get annoyed that movies are too on 472 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: the nose. Well, this is on the nose. You know 473 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: exactly what it's talking about, but it's doing it in 474 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 2: such a creative, fun way, you know what I mean. 475 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of subtext in this movie at all, right, 476 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: but it's it's done in such a cartoonish grand way 477 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: that I love. Yeah. So uh, and I mean we're 478 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 2: going to spoil this movie. It's eight years old. I 479 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: think we've passed. 480 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 4: The time spoiled eight Yeah, because there's a hard left 481 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 4: turn in this movie that I did not know about 482 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: at all, and we can. 483 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: Get into it later. Let's get into the movie. So 484 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: our main character is Cassius Green. He goes by cash. 485 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: This is Keith Stanfield. He's kind of a disgruntled slacker 486 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: living out of his uncle's garage in Oakland. He's got 487 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: a hot artist girlfriend named Detroit played by Tessa Thompson, 488 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: and it doesn't not a lot else going on. So 489 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: he gets a job as a telemarketer at this company, 490 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: Regal View, and he's selling encyclopedias and he's having a 491 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: hard time selling to people over the phone until an 492 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: older fellow working at the telemarketer place named Langston played 493 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: by Danny Glover, he tells him, you got to use 494 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: your white voice to sell, and he figures out a 495 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: white voice, which the white voice is voiced by David Cross. 496 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 2: It's very clearly a different person. Yeah, And when he 497 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 2: embodies this white voice, he becomes a huge success and 498 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: he starts selling a bunch of becomes a huge successful seller. 499 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 500 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: One thing in this movie is this company they call 501 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: that's called worry Free, which is supposed to be kind 502 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: of like Amazon and it's this huge corporation that sells stuff. 503 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: But also like they now have housing where you can 504 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: like sign a life time contract and like not get paid, 505 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: but like have housing and food for life. But you're 506 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: like living in a barracks basically. But it's like advertised 507 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: as a good thing and it's essentially slavery. So that's 508 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: kind of a thing that's going on throughout this movie. Now, 509 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: we just talked about working on Commission. Yeah, not that funny, 510 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: and they're doing that very thing in this movie. 511 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Remember when I said that it sucks asked to 512 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: work on Commission? That's this is exactly what I was 513 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: talking about. 514 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: I mean, could you imagine being a telemarketer? I really couldn't. 515 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: I think it would kill me on the inside. I would. 516 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: I couldn't even last one day, I don't think. 517 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean shit, When I was like doing phone banking 518 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: for the Sierra Club when I was living in Los Angeles, 519 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: it was even I mean even like, listen, if you 520 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: have to call anyone on the phone cold at this 521 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: point in our timeline, it is not going to be fun. 522 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: Well I was going to say, no one picks up 523 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: the phone anymore. It's like, how is that even a 524 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: thing that happens. And this does sort of feel like 525 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: an ant like everything feels old in this movie, even 526 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: though it is modern day. But it's like that is 527 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: sort of a concept that I feel like doesn't exist 528 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: in the way that it did in the past. 529 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Well and like and to that end, doesn't it now 530 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: feel like a pyramid scheme to be like, oh you 531 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: have to This is how you make money is by 532 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: calling people who don't even want to pick up the phone. 533 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: And now iPhone has a thing where you can just 534 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: have them leave, like a statement of intention for the 535 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: phone call. Do you have this on your phone where 536 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: if a number comes up and it's unknown, there's this 537 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: thing that pops up to this be like, so what 538 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: do you call them? This woman about? 539 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: Oh really, you don't have this on your iPhone? I 540 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: guess I wasn't aware of it. 541 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: I think it's it's like a switch you can toggle. 542 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: I use it because right now I think I've been 543 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: getting so many weird robocalls because of my I just 544 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: bought a house, so you know, of course now everyone's like, yeah, 545 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, going hamd what about your extended warranty? What 546 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: about this? 547 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: And so I got so much in the mail about 548 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: that so much like fraud stuff, you know, fraudulent. 549 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I turned it on and I'm like, oh man, 550 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: this is crazy because it's literally like it just sends 551 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of like sending phone calls to like this 552 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: purgatory where they're like, what do you want? And then 553 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: it pops up on my phone as kind of like 554 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: a voicemail, and then you can actually pick up in 555 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: midstream if you want to, Like it's like, oh okay, 556 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: if it's like my dad's neighbor calling me about something, 557 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: that I can pick up and talk to them. But 558 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: then if I don't pick up, it just goes to voicemail. Anyway, 559 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: That's how bad it's gotten to call people at this point, right, Yeah. 560 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: And so to me, it is so fucked to have 561 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: a job where you're like born to lose basically, and 562 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: this is coming from somebody I spent. I've had a 563 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: lot of jobs people, a lot of jobs in my life, 564 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of different types of jobs, and working for 565 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: Commission sucks and this movie is proof that it sucks. 566 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: And the idea that it's racist that he has to 567 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: put on a white voice in order to succeed is 568 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: proof again of how shitty it is to work on 569 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: commission for phones. And the one thing that I will 570 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: say that is really fun about this movie is there's 571 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: kind of a sequence at the beginning where he's making 572 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: phone calls, and it's like the movie basically shows you 573 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: the like it's kind of this like visual representation of 574 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: the phone call where la Keith Stanfield's character just immediately 575 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: kind of erupts into the person's house. 576 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he like physically drops into the person's house. It's 577 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: not just like showing him talking in the office. It's 578 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: like he's physically in the person's house trying to talk 579 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: to them. You know. 580 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really fun. That felt kind of like 581 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: like a monkey's episode or something. 582 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, I know absolutely, it's very I mean, 583 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: this movie is za certainly. 584 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, have you ever worked Okay, 585 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: I know you said that you've never worked as a telemarker, 586 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: but have you ever worked in a place that was 587 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: a phone based job in like a call center? 588 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: No, not at all. I have a very little I 589 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: have very little phone confidence. I feel like I don't 590 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: like calling people. I don't like getting phone calls TRD 591 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: for me, Well, it's great and I never had a 592 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: job that required it. 593 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: Well, that's crazy because you have a perfect voice for phones. 594 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: Well, I do have a perfect white voice. I was 595 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: gonna say I should have been I could have been 596 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: cast as one of the white voices in this movie. 597 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: I I will have to agree with you. 598 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: One funny thing. You know how they're always like the 599 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: best caller of all time, the best employee, Hal Jamison, 600 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: And they show this guy like on plaques. You know, ah, 601 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: you know that guy? Yes, So that is the production 602 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: designer for this movie. And he's also done everything everywhere, 603 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: all at once. His name is Jason Kisvarde and he's 604 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: married to my friend kel From and she was like 605 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: a set dresser on this movie. I think she was 606 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: on this one, but also on every everything, everywhere, all 607 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: at once. But they do kind of have similar kind 608 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: of visual thing. But that I just want that's the 609 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: set designer or that's the production designer in the movie. 610 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy cool. 611 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: Some little tidbit there. This movie did make me like 612 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 2: miss the camaraderie of like working a shitty job and 613 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: then going out for drinks afterward. 614 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, what do you do to drink alone? Drink 615 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: a martini alone. 616 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I go into a closet with a hanging light 617 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: bulb and I just drink a martini alone, like. 618 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,959 Speaker 1: Chug it back, Gibson, speed like my coat? Am I right? 619 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: Like Millie to Chericho, Jesus Christ, what a fucking nightmare. 620 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like the scene in the King 621 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: of Comedy when he has like, you know, he's talking 622 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: into his like he's putting on like a fake talk show. 623 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: That's sort of me every now complaining about me, Yes, 624 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: complain about Millie. Uh okay. Moving on, a fellow telemarketer, Squeeze, 625 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: played by Stephen Young, he starts trying to organize a union. 626 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: But while that's happening, you know, Cash is kind of interested. 627 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: But Cash is also moving up the ranks and he 628 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 2: gets promoted. He gets to go to the second floor 629 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: and he gets to take the gold elevator, and that's 630 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 2: where they're selling the real shit. That's where the real 631 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: money is. And he finds out that regal view on 632 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: the second floor where the the big boy callers are. 633 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: They're selling weapons of mass destruction and human beings like 634 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: slave trade type stuff and worry Free that Amazon company. 635 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: I had talked about previously is their biggest client. So 636 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: Cash is like, I can't do this. But then they 637 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: show him how much the money is and it's a lot, 638 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 2: and so he puts away you know, his morals and 639 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: decides to start selling you know, weapons of mass destruction. 640 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 2: But while that's happening, the bottom floor dweller tark telemarketers 641 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: are on strike and Cash he becomes a scab. He 642 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 2: starts breaking the picket line and he gets hit in 643 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: the head with a coke can. He becomes like memified. 644 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: So he's got like this bloody bandage on his head, 645 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 2: but like he's memed on the internet and on TV 646 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 2: of him getting hit in the head with a coke cane. 647 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: I thought something kind of interesting in this movie was 648 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 2: like it felt very much like Oakland versus San Francisco. Yeah, 649 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: you know, you know San Francisco's kind of known as 650 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: like the white techie city. In Oakland is you know, 651 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: more diverse and having a harder time. And I feel 652 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: like there's a lot of this is a very Oakland movie. 653 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot about kind of going to 654 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 2: the other side. I don't know where his like fancy 655 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: apartment is that he gets he moves out of the 656 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: garage into like a fancy white apartment, but it seems 657 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: like that's in San Francisco. 658 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know what's interesting too about movies like 659 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: this is, you know, tell me part of what is 660 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: Cash's plights? I think at the beginning, especially as it 661 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: references to his girlfriend, is like he lives in a garage. 662 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: He lives in Terry Crus's garage, and basically it's his apartment. 663 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: And then the automatic garage Doorg comes flying up all 664 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: the time and it's like, hey, I'm naked in here. 665 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: Why is this? You know? And it's basically like, Okay, 666 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: he drives a shitty car, he lives in a garage. 667 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: Then when he starts making that bank, he like transfers 668 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: to a nice I don't know, I'd call it kind 669 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: of a Michael Fastbender and shame type of apartment. It's 670 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: like a kind of high risy perfect description, thanks very much. 671 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: And it's all white and it has like all white 672 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: bedding and all white furniture. And I'm always like, what 673 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: is the impulse for rich people to live in all 674 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: white spaces? 675 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? I do think it's like you do need to 676 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: be rich to live in such a white space because 677 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 2: it needs to be cleaned constantly or else that to 678 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 2: look disgusting, you know, But that's what I think. 679 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: But is it? What is it about? There's got to 680 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: be papers written on this. There's like a psychology of 681 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: like rich people that are like I don't want anything, 682 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: Like having possessions means you're poor. Yeah, having yeah, having 683 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: things that are any color but beiese and white means 684 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: you're poor. And what does that mean? Like psychologically I. 685 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: Suppose, but so fascinating. Yeah, I don't really I don't 686 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: know the answer to that. 687 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: H Well, I guess this is what really underscores Cash 688 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: being a scab sellout then, is because he's got this 689 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: all white apartment. To that end, can I talk about Squeeze, 690 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: Yes you can. Stephen Young's character Squeeze Squeeze. Stephen Young 691 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: is a cutie patuity m hatty boomblattie. And I forgot 692 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: that he was in this movie right too, And so 693 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 1: what I was like, Oh, fuck Stephen Jones in this movie. 694 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about his character. So he's kind of 695 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: the like shitster. Yeah, he wants to unionize, He's trying 696 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: to get everybody on board. He's basically like, these people, 697 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: you know, aren't paying us enough and we want benefits, Like, 698 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: let's fucking unionize, right, get together. I don't know how 699 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: you feel about the work grump or the work shitster. Yeah, 700 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: but I've always been deeply attracted to those folks. 701 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 2: Wow, the grump. That's interesting. Do you where do you 702 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: think that comes from? 703 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: Because I working sucks? Yeah, And then this is a 704 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: maybe this is a larger point I'm trying to make 705 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: about maybe this movie and just the culture of work, 706 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: because I think in my brain, I've always thought and 707 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: internalized that work sucks, and that like having a boss sucks, 708 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: and you're never gonna be besties with your boss. You're 709 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: always gonna work for the quote unquote man, there is 710 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: no there is no way around it, even if you 711 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: make it free to have sodas, even if you have 712 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: like fun time outings, even if your boss is trill 713 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: and your age and cool or whatever. It's like just 714 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: the inherent nature of capitalism and working is always gonna suck. 715 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: And I'm always gonna bitch and I'm always gonna want 716 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: to take time off and. 717 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 718 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying yes, And so I think 719 00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: for me, part of what I love about the grumpus 720 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: that they're in camaraderie with you on this point, Like 721 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: they're basically like, Yo, let's go smoke a cigarette, bitch 722 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: and complain about our fucking bosses. I love that person. 723 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm that person, and I'm saying this when I work 724 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: for people who are extremely nice and cool and friends 725 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: and things like that. But I don't care. It is 726 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: the joy of life to complain about work, like with 727 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: your co workers, absolutely, with a beer or a cigarette 728 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: or a fucking secret DM in a. 729 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 2: Zoom like something, yeah, yes, yes, yes. 730 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: Why would you work if you couldn't blow off steam 731 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: in any kind of way, Like if you just showed 732 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: up every day and be like, oh my god, I'm 733 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: obsessed with this. 734 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 2: Job and I love it all and I love come on, oh, 735 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean, talking shit is one of the joys, and 736 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 2: it's a bonding experience above all else, you know, talking 737 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: shit about other people, your job, it's it's vital. Yeah, 738 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 2: I think it is it. Have you ever been in 739 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 2: a situation where you're like talking shit and you're talking 740 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: shit with someone and they are like, I don't really 741 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: like to talk about people behind their back. 742 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: Oh, it happens, more like it happened to me the 743 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: other day. 744 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 2: It did. These people should be executed, dude, dude. 745 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: I I was blowing off some steam and I did. 746 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: It's always weird when you would do it to somebody 747 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: that you're just kind of hanging out with. For like, 748 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: I went to lunch with somebody I'd never gone to 749 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: lunch with before, and I was like, oh, well, they 750 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: got to be cool because they want to hang out 751 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: with me. And then I kind of went on a 752 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: little tangent and they were like, oh, that's interesting. I'm 753 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: really sorry to hear that. I'm really sorry that that 754 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: should have been your experience. Like no, no, no, no, no, 755 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be like, fuck, yeah, bitch, that's exactly 756 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: how I feel. Let's fucking complain about it. I was like, 757 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: oh shit, wow, yeah, so it is. It's hard when 758 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: you get your door slammed in your face like that. Yes, 759 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: it's the worst, and then you feel like you're like, oh, 760 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: I fucked up. I said too much the same. 761 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: I guess I'm the worst person on the planet. 762 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't I love my job like they love 763 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: their job? But back to the Stephen Youwton character. I 764 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: think because he is a shitster and he's trying to unionize, 765 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: I would not only want to hang out with him, 766 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: but I would have the biggest crush on him, Like 767 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: he's he's our Eric Brockovich. Okay, I love him. 768 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 2: And he's cute, so yes, you know I love him 769 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 2: in this movie. But I also love Jermaine Fowler's character 770 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: in this movie. He's like, he's like the good time guy. 771 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 2: And I love when him and uh like Keith get 772 00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: into like a compliment. 773 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: Off and oh my god. Love. 774 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 2: He's like, what's up with you? What's up? And he's like, 775 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: you smell really great. I hope you have a great 776 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 2: day I have. I hope you have a blessed day. 777 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 2: It's like he's like, wow, yeah, I hope you haven't 778 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 2: had a better day, like getting each other's. 779 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: Succeed you know. Yeah, it's really funny. Also, he calls 780 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: what he's talking about La King's Danfield's character as being 781 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: like a scab. He calls him, I should be saying 782 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: this on Black History, but I'm He calls him the 783 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: ariana grande of disloyal n words, yes, which I thought 784 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: was good a great line. 785 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: But anyway, that's a great line. Yes, there's a lot 786 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 2: of good lines in this. Yeah, it's very funny. Moving on, 787 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 2: Cash is on the ounce with his friends and his 788 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: girlfriend Detroit, but he attends he attends a party by 789 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: Worry free CEO Steve Lift, played by the canceled Army Hammer. 790 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 2: He plays a villainous character in this so I didn't 791 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 2: mind seeing him, which is maybe not the right take, 792 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 2: but that's how I felt about it. This party is 793 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,919 Speaker 2: awkward and horrible, but Steve Lift wants Cash to work 794 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 2: for worry Freeze since he's done such a good job 795 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: at Regal View. So while Cash is looking for the 796 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 2: bathroom and here we go spoiler alert, big left turn here. 797 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: While he's looking for the bathroom, he discovers the horrible 798 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 2: secret about the company Worry free They are creating half human, 799 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 2: half horse mutant people to become stronger, more efficient workers, 800 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 2: and Steve Lift wants Cash to become one of these 801 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 2: new race of creatures in order to kind of lead 802 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 2: and control them. Like Cash says in the movie, He's like, 803 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 2: you want me to be the Martin Luther King of Equisapiens. 804 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 2: So Lift also reveals that like, how you become an 805 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 2: equisapian one of these half human half horse people, is 806 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 2: by snorting this medicine. And like two seconds earlier, he 807 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 2: gave Cash cocaine to sniff, and Cash was like, did 808 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 2: you just give me the thing to turn me into 809 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 2: a horse? And he's like, no, no, that was cocaine. But 810 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 2: you're kind of like, was it though? Anyways, a little 811 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 2: ambiguity there, but this was this really? I mean this 812 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 2: really were you prepared for such an insane twist right there? 813 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, dude, of course, I. 814 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: Of course is a horse. Of course, of course, yes. 815 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 2: I was disgusted by the disgusted. 816 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: I understand that this is an artistic choice that boots 817 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,479 Speaker 1: rarely chose to make. But I was like, I really 818 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 1: did not need to see the horse sticks. 819 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: But you do, though, but you do because it comes. 820 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: Up uh disturbing at best. I yeah, I was shocked 821 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: by this. I mean it was like, not I did 822 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: not see that coming. What's ever? And then somehow was 823 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: like I was like, oh, this is Armie Hammer is 824 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: doing this. Okay, now it makes sense because he feels 825 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: like I mean, I don't know how much anybody really 826 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: knows about Army Hammer like outside of LA. 827 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,879 Speaker 2: But his family owns like a lot of LA. Yeah, 828 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 2: the Hammer Museum. He's a huge rich like kid. The 829 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 2: Hammer is like a name you see around. 830 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. And so for some reason I was like, oh, 831 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: this is actually exactly what I think him and his 832 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: family do, like like people of his ilk I think 833 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: is what I mean, meaning like these blue blooded, like generational, 834 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: wealthy white people, you know, who's who own a lot 835 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 1: of things in you know, towns and cities and whatnot. 836 00:47:54,719 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: Do they get into this weird, fucked up bioengineering shit. Yeah, sure, 837 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I think. And so it was funny 838 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, well, this track's because his 839 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: character seems to be that person. Yeah, and he is 840 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: playing this person too, which is hilarious. 841 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was. It was good casting for 842 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 2: like an evil tech billionaire guy, yes exactly. So uh yeah, 843 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 2: fucking gross disturbing, Yes, it kind of comes. You know. 844 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 2: It's interesting because Detroit. Tessa Thompson's character is an artist 845 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 2: and she's like a real punk rock artist. But Cash 846 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 2: points out, He's like, you're selling only your art to 847 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 2: rich white people, and also you have a white voice, 848 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 2: which is funny because the white voice of Tessa Thompson 849 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 2: is Lily James, who Tessa Thompson was in a movie 850 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 2: with Lily James called Little Woods that came out in 851 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and that was directed by Nia DaCosta, who 852 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 2: just did twenty eight years later The Bone. It was 853 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 2: all full circle and she hugged you and she hugged me. 854 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 2: But I just think that's so interesting. It's just like 855 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 2: even the most punk rock artist person, it's like we 856 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 2: have to circle at the teet of the rich white people, 857 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 2: you know, we all have to like there's just no escaping. 858 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think that's kind of the I 859 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: think it tracks that Boots Riley would put that message 860 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: in a film that he made, because yeah, he's making 861 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: political art, political songs, and I'm sure at a certain point, 862 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: you know, has thought about the idea of what you 863 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,760 Speaker 1: have to do as a black artist in order to 864 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: be successful, and who you have to sell shit to 865 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: and who you have to change and who you have 866 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: to change yourself into in order to have that success. 867 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: And it's funny because this movie is obviously about that, 868 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 1: but then this movie actually he became successful. So I'm 869 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: kind of like he wrote a movie in critique of that, 870 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: but then the movie itself has become its own, and 871 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: it was like a meta narrative or something within white 872 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: cenophol culture or whatever Hollywood to the point where it's like, well, 873 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, how did he I wonder if like this 874 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: it was kind of like a prophecy or something. I 875 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: don't know how to describe it. But because this movie was, 876 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: like I thought a lot of people really got into 877 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: this movie, like more than it being sort of like 878 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: a political kind of artsy indie film, I think it 879 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: went beyond that for sure, and I'm just curious as 880 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: to I'm sure there's interviews about it, but you know, 881 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: like how he navigated that success? 882 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it is interesting because you want him 883 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 2: to have success, and you want artists to have success 884 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 2: based off their like very authentic art. But then like 885 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,720 Speaker 2: what does that mean? Yeah, I don't know, it's interesting. 886 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think that's like a thing that 887 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Peele does really well too, is talking about like 888 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 1: black art and selling out and white audiences and things. 889 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just obviously a perspective that is interesting, 890 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't. 891 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 2: Know, just yeah, all right, let's get to the end here. 892 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 2: Cash has quit Regal View and he's back protesting and 893 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 2: striking with his buddies. He's going on TV. He's showing 894 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 2: the video of the horse the Equisapiens and nothing. It's 895 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 2: not working. People are like, Armie Hammer's cool for doing this, 896 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 2: Steve Lift, he's the man for doing this. So it 897 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 2: doesn't too much good. But then there's a huge protest 898 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 2: outside of Regal View and a brawl and the swat 899 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 2: team comes in and things are turning kind of violent 900 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 2: and Cash gets thrown in a police car or like 901 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 2: a police swat vehicle, and things are looking grim for 902 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 2: our heroes. But then the Equissapiens come to rescue and 903 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 2: free everyone, and they save the day. And then Cash, 904 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 2: you know, he's out of a jo or he's I think. 905 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 2: He goes back to being a telemarketer again. At the 906 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,439 Speaker 2: bottom floor. He moves back into his uncle's garage. Things 907 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 2: are kind of he's back with Detroit. Things are all 908 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 2: fine until he discovers he's turning into an equisapien. Oh 909 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 2: my goodness, gracious, and he goes back to Armie Hammer's 910 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 2: house with a group of equisapiens and we assume he 911 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 2: obliterates him. So that's it. I mean, you wrote this down, 912 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 2: but this movie holds up. It feels even more prescient 913 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 2: and more relevant today than ever before. You know it. 914 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 2: It's even kind of amazing as it came about eight 915 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 2: years ago. I'm like, this could have come out today. 916 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 2: We're talking about the same shit. 917 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I God, this movie is extremely fun and. 918 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 2: Creative, very fun. 919 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: I truly enjoy it like more, maybe even a little 920 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: bit more than I did back then, which is saying 921 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: a lot. 922 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 2: I think I did it. When I saw it the 923 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 2: first time, I thought it was kind of unwieldy and 924 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 2: kind of like, oh where are we going? Because it 925 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 2: really takes you on all these different turns. But after 926 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 2: seeing it a second time, I didn't feel that way, 927 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 2: and I enjoyed it more than this time than even 928 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 2: the last time, and I liked it last time. Yeah. 929 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited for his new movie. I love Boosters. 930 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 1: It looks great. 931 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 2: There's a great cast, fabulous, yes, and I'm. 932 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: Just glad that he's working still. And you know that's 933 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: you know the thing that we've talked about before with 934 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, the Hollywood and the willingness to take gambles 935 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: on creative people, and especially if you're black. And so 936 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that, you know, God, I hope he gets 937 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: a trillion dollars to make shit. 938 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, yeah, Like I think is this 939 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 2: should empower people. That It's like, if you have the 940 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 2: craziest idea and you're like, people won't like this, I 941 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 2: have to think about what people will like. I don't 942 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 2: think you should think that way. I think you should 943 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 2: think about what you think will be good and interesting 944 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 2: and weird and what you like. And I feel like 945 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 2: this is just such a creative, unique vision and people 946 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 2: grabbed onto it. Yeah, you know, and it's weird. It 947 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 2: is weird, but it's good. 948 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: It's a good you know. 949 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it? 950 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 1: All right. 951 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 2: Oh anyways, well that's it. Anything else you wanted to 952 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:49,760 Speaker 2: touch upon there, Millie. 953 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 1: Before we move on, Happy Black History Month? 954 00:54:51,840 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 2: Once again, it's time for some emails. We've got some gripes, 955 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 2: some gropes, some grets, and some advice. Let me open 956 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 2: up the email bag here, all right, this is a 957 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: gripe from Liz. Hello, Millian Casey loved the show and 958 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 2: I'm especially delighted by the corny opening skits, corny, corny 959 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 2: A corny No, they are corny as hell. I want 960 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 2: to preface this by saying I have no tattoos, but 961 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 2: despite not being cool and inke to myself, I can't 962 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 2: help but notice extremely crisp and fresh aka unrealistic looking 963 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 2: tattoos and movies. I'm talking about super saturated, vant to 964 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 2: black tattoos that aren't faded at all. Very often you 965 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,879 Speaker 2: can even see the transparent square border where the quote 966 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 2: unquote tattoo was put on, which I recognized from youth, 967 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 2: my youth slapping on fruit stripe, gum, temperry tattoos an 968 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 2: additional gripe bad guys who for whatever reason decide to 969 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 2: have very distinctive tattoos on their necks that inevitably help 970 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 2: our heroes identify them. Maybe just don't have your underground 971 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 2: criminal organization require huge scorpion tattoos above the collar. I'm 972 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 2: not an expert in criminal enterprises, but that seems like 973 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 2: the bare minimum to me. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks, Liz, 974 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 2: Great email. 975 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: Liz movie tattoos. 976 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 2: I do. I it doesn't, it hasn't bothered me, but 977 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 2: I do notice it. I have noticed I can't think 978 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 2: of an example, but I do notice it in movies 979 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 2: when I'm like, that's not a real tattoo. 980 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: No, you should powder it bare minimum. Just powder it 981 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: like if you're going to draw it on or something 982 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 1: like make it look faded and crusty. 983 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 984 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was something else along these lines the other 985 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: day that I thought about that. I was like, yes, 986 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 1: this is also fake, and I don't no, God, I 987 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Wasn't piercings, but it was. 988 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 2: Like hair beard, mustache. 989 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: Oh, it was facial hair. Because I watched Aaron Brockovich agin. 990 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:20,919 Speaker 1: I was like, God, damn, this facial hair on Aaron 991 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: Eckhart is terrible. 992 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 2: It looks like he went into a barber shop and 993 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: grabbed some hair on the ground and just kind of 994 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 2: smushed it on his face. I mean, it looks terrible. 995 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 2: It looks so puby and like awful. 996 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: It looks like they glued on a party shop beard, 997 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: like when you're going for Halloween. 998 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 2: I was like, this is crazy. This is a. 999 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: Steven Soderberg movie. How could they let this happen? But yeah, 1000 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 1: it was facial hair, and I mean, god, we are 1001 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: living in the modern era. There's definitely ways to make 1002 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: that shit look real, and tattoos for that matter. 1003 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 2: So you know what bothers me too when this happens, 1004 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 2: like biopics a lot, or they'll give an actor who's 1005 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 2: like playing a real person, they'll give them different colored 1006 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 2: eye contacts. Like if it's like if are like Johnny 1007 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 2: Depp in a Black Mass, He's given blue eye contacts, 1008 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you look freaky as hell. You don't 1009 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 2: look like a natural blue eyed person. It doesn't just 1010 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 2: you can't just like swap in blue eyes or different 1011 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 2: colored eye contacts and make it look normal. 1012 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: You know, have you seen a fuck? Have you seen 1013 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: the new photos that have come out from the Beatles movies? 1014 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 2: I saw the paulm This skull Okay, I'm. 1015 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: Like, what the hell is going on? This is smashing machine, 1016 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: reducks or something. 1017 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what this. 1018 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: Face gould ting is this? 1019 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 2: I agree, he looks like he looks like so fleshy 1020 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 2: and like he's got lip viller and stuff. It looks crazy. 1021 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 2: I think, why do we have to be so hyper 1022 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 2: accurate like that? It's like so nutty. 1023 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like even the uh well, I 1024 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 1: thought the Barry Kyogan as Ringo. I thought looked actually 1025 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: pretty good, but this whole like they're really like, you know, 1026 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: sculpting a new face for these actors. I'm like, at 1027 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 1: a certain point, just let it go, like, just let 1028 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: this ship. 1029 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they all look like they're I don't even It's 1030 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: like they look like they're made of clay. They don't 1031 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 2: look like real people or like AI. 1032 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so weird. I'm like, listen, not 1033 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: every Elvis impersonator looks exactly like Elvis. 1034 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 2: They didn't do this to Austin Butler and he was great. 1035 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 2: It looks like unfrozen cabal on lawyer or something. I mean, 1036 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 2: it's wild. 1037 00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: God damn dude, I know. I was like, this is 1038 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: walking insane. But I guess to Liza's point, I will 1039 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: say Gripe accepted because honestly, yeah, you know, like that's 1040 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: that's a that's a huge like eye sore when you 1041 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 1: see bad fake tattoos. 1042 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 2: Uh. All right, moving on. This is from Jackie dear 1043 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Million Casey. My husband and I just finished watching The 1044 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 2: New Naked Gun, and as promised, it was hysterical. I 1045 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 2: was so impressed with Pamela Anderson's comedic Delivery. I was 1046 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 2: also a big fan of the Last show Girl, but 1047 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 2: it is so much harder to be funny than sad, 1048 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 2: so it's truly blown away by her. My question is, 1049 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 2: what are your favorite movies and performances that recontextualize a 1050 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 2: performer's entire career. I'm thinking along the lines of Jim 1051 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 2: Carrey An Eternal Sunshine or Charlie Starren in Monster Can't 1052 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Wait to Hear from You, Jackie. 1053 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,439 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 1054 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 2: I mean a big famous one is like I would say, 1055 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 2: like Burt Reynolds and Boogie Nights. I guess that doesn't 1056 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 2: recontextualize his career, it just sort of like revamped it. 1057 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 2: I would say John Travolta in pulp fiction. I didn't 1058 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 2: know he could play a guy like that. 1059 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 1: You know what, this is a subtle one. Do you 1060 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: remember the Nicole Haulloff Center movie Enough Said from twenty thirteen, 1061 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 1: absolutely with James Gandolfini as the like romantic comedy yeah lead. 1062 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, of course, this is so fucking 1063 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: cute that he did this movie. It's like, Okay, Tony Soprano, 1064 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: everybody knows he's a you know, like a fucking mean 1065 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: mafia guy. But then now, is this like conly guy 1066 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,479 Speaker 1: in a Nicole Hull off Center movie. 1067 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, perfect, you feel so he's like 1068 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 2: and like Julia Louis Dreyfuss is kind of like a 1069 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 2: jerk sometimes and like kind of like prop pokes at 1070 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 2: him and he's kind of like you can tell his 1071 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 2: feelings get hurt and it's kind of it's very he's 1072 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 2: like a very sensitive person. That's a great answer. Oh 1073 01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 2: my god. 1074 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it just made me like melts. I was 1075 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: just like, yes, I want this like mean, tough mafia 1076 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 1: guy to be this like sweet heart, like just normal dude. 1077 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. I kind of felt 1078 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: that way similarly, not as much obviously, but when Jason 1079 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Statham was in the Melissa McCarthy movie Is It Called Spy, 1080 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: and he like kind of became like a little simpy 1081 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 1: for her at the end where he was like kind 1082 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,440 Speaker 1: of had a crush on her, and I was just like, 1083 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: I want him to be like this too. 1084 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I remember thinking, I mean Channing Tatum, I 1085 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 2: had a big I was like, oh, I remember he 1086 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,479 Speaker 2: was in the movie This is the End as Danny 1087 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 2: McBride's sex slave, and I was like, Okay, he's funny. 1088 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that before. Yeah, he Like I was like, 1089 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 2: I knew he was talented, but I didn't know he 1090 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 2: had this like goofy side to him. And I thought 1091 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 2: that was fun. Oh I had another one. You know, 1092 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 2: I really love Richard Linkletter's Bernie with Jack Black. Yes, 1093 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,959 Speaker 2: And I feel like I've always been a huge Jack 1094 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 2: Black fan, but I feel like you really did something 1095 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 2: different in that one. And I was like really impressed 1096 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 2: by that. 1097 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean there's but there's so many examples of this. 1098 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean you could even go back to like freaking 1099 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Berkeley and Showgirls or you know, like whatever, like 1100 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 1: anytime a good girl goes bad or like a bad 1101 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 1: guy goes good, You're obviously like what like I didn't 1102 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: realize that, Like I don't know, like Matthew McConaughey would 1103 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: wear a thong and magic, you know, like whatever. It's 1104 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: like you know, but and ye'll stick it, yes, sting it. 1105 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 1: But it's that's a good question. I mean obviously a lot. 1106 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 1: But I now you got me on this James Skattlfini 1107 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 1: and a n ough said thing, and I'm just oh, 1108 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 1: now I'm just in the worst Millie happiness of that. 1109 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 2: All right, here's the last one. Okay from Leah. First 1110 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 2: of all, I love your podcast. Well should I read 1111 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 2: all this? There's some well there's some fawning in here, 1112 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 2: let's just read it. First of all, I love your podcast. 1113 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 2: I've always loved movies, but truly listening to your podcast 1114 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 2: has made me obsessed. I feel like being in conversation 1115 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 2: with thoughtful, cool, funny friends who are the appropriate level 1116 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 2: of being a shithead while not being so pretentious you 1117 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 2: need to get a drink to avoid conversation. You've expanded 1118 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 2: my movie taste and introduced me to some real gems, 1119 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 2: i e. Show Girls. Hey, anyway, if you choose to 1120 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 2: read my question, you can cut the accolades if you like. 1121 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 2: I didn't, but I wanted to tell you anyway because 1122 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm very appreciative. I'm a very appreciative of you both. 1123 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 2: Over the weekend, I was watching a movie at home 1124 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 2: and was not feeling it, but I continued watching anyway, 1125 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 2: just to see if i'd like it more. By the end. 1126 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 2: I did not like it more by the end. What 1127 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 2: is y'all's perspective on finishing a movie even if you're 1128 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 2: not feeling it, do you stop watching it or persevere? 1129 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 2: Thanks for the film advice, Millie. What do you think 1130 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 2: I stop? 1131 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: I used to not, but now I do because life 1132 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 1: is too fucking short. 1133 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 2: I have never stopped a movie not finished. 1134 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Whoa okay? 1135 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Or a book? Wow? Oh even Oh that is so hard. 1136 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 2: I think my life is worse because of it. I 1137 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,360 Speaker 2: think I'm an unhappier person. I wish I could be 1138 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 2: free like you and my wife Tricia. She like reads 1139 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 2: a page of a book and is like stinker and 1140 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 2: throws it out the window. And she does the same 1141 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 2: with watching movies. If she's like this sucks, she'll just 1142 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 2: start fast forwarding through it. Ah, and uh, you both 1143 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 2: are free and I'm chained. I just can't. I can't. 1144 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, I have to finish it. Goes back to 1145 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 2: film school and being like seeing these movies that I'm like, oh, 1146 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 2: I do not like this and I hate this, but 1147 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 2: everyone said this was a brilliant movie. I have to 1148 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 2: finish it. You know that type of shit. It's ingrained 1149 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 2: in me. 1150 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this maybe to bridge the gap between 1151 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 1: two of us. I am less likely to leave a 1152 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 1: bad movie if I'm saying it in a movie theater. 1153 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 1: Mm hm, I am way more likely to turn that 1154 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 1: shit off if I'm at. 1155 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 2: Home in the theater. The theater is an experience that 1156 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 2: it would be hard to like walk out of, you know, 1157 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 2: I mean it's harder. 1158 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's truly got to be bad to walk out 1159 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 1: of a movie. And to be honest, the only times 1160 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 1: I've really walked out of a movie was not really content. 1161 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 1: It was more just like bad screening experiences, like I've 1162 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: done that where it's like, oh the sound is terrible 1163 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: or it's too hot in a year or whatever. Yeah, 1164 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: but never like based on the movie itself. But then yeah, 1165 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 1: if I'm at home, I mean, all bets are off. Shit. 1166 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: I've turned off good movies that I'm like, I just 1167 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 1: did not really in the in the vibe right now, 1168 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's. 1169 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 2: My late aunt Cynthia. I would guess about seventy percent 1170 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 2: of the movies she went to see in the theaters, 1171 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,120 Speaker 2: and she went to see a lot of movies. I 1172 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 2: would guess seventy percent she walked out of because she 1173 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 2: was like she would get really scandalized by things very easy, 1174 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 2: like if there was like a lot of violence or 1175 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,439 Speaker 2: crude humor or like and even sometimes we'd be talking 1176 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 2: about a movie and she's like, oh, that's such a 1177 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 2: beautiful movie. I love that movie. I did walk out 1178 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,919 Speaker 2: of it, but like before I did, it was really good. 1179 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 1: What an G She's like, oh, I loved it. I 1180 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 1: didn't watch all of it, but I loved it. Yeah. 1181 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 1: Will I will tell you, Like I think I've talked 1182 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: about this before on an episode where one of the 1183 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:03,439 Speaker 1: movies that I really tested my my theater experience thing 1184 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 1: is the crib Master Cycle that Matthew Barney. 1185 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 2: Oh fuck, yeah, dude, imagine, Oh my God, like Jesus 1186 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 2: talk about God. 1187 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember. It was four or five. It was 1188 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 1: one of the later ones where first of all, my 1189 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 1: two ship Head movie friends Parks and Stewart. 1190 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,799 Speaker 2: It doesn't get much ship. 1191 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: God, these like Parks and Stewart, they're I don't know 1192 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 1: if they're listening, but if they are, I'm saying this 1193 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: and with love, but they are truly like the types 1194 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 1: that will go and endure the most. I mean, they're 1195 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 1: like first in line the larsvon s Treer movie. They're 1196 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,920 Speaker 1: fucking doing the Derek Jarmin Blue They're doing crib Master 1197 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 1: cycle in movie theaters, and I'm like, fuck, dude, And 1198 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,639 Speaker 1: I remember it was like either four or five where 1199 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 1: I was literally like I think I should go, Like 1200 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,759 Speaker 1: I I I paid and I can't take it anymore. 1201 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 1: I cannot fucking take it. And I stayed and I 1202 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 1: just remember thinking like I just went through some shit, 1203 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 1: like somebody's gotta fucking give me props for this, Like 1204 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,519 Speaker 1: somebody's in my life has got to clap. 1205 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 2: Well. I I'm kind of jealous because you can't even 1206 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 2: rent though there's they're not on you can't see those 1207 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 2: unless they're they're screened at a museum. They don't there's 1208 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 2: no way to like rent, there's no release of those, 1209 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 2: you know exactly. 1210 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: And that's what that was another, I think reason why 1211 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:47,880 Speaker 1: I felt like I had to stay. But I was like, yo, 1212 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't care, I should I should just go anyway, 1213 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 1: but god damn. 1214 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So did you ever go to the Red Cat 1215 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 2: Theater in La the Royan Edney, the Royan Edna Disney 1216 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 2: col Arts Theater. 1217 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: Is that like the experimental? 1218 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, So I went and saw see I can't 1219 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,440 Speaker 2: even remember the name of it, but it was a 1220 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 2: two hour long movie and it is a slow camera 1221 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 2: is pushing through slowly a like factory floor, and it's 1222 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 2: just moving through slowly and it's in like slow motion, 1223 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 2: so it's like everyone's moving barely moving. And it was 1224 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 2: like two hours of that and I was like, holy shit. 1225 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,439 Speaker 2: I was like because I didn't really know what the 1226 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 2: movie was. But our professor it was like a school 1227 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 2: class field drip. We all went like my class went 1228 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 2: and it was like crazy, Oh my god. 1229 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. There was like a concept that my friend Phil Blankenship, 1230 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 1: who is the programmer at the New Beverly in LA, 1231 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 1: him and his his friends would do a thing they 1232 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: called cinema suicide where they would just like go into 1233 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: movies that were four walled, you know, like they're basically 1234 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 1: like in La where uh, filmmakers will four wall a 1235 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 1: theater and just put their movie into a movie theater 1236 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 1: because they want to qualify for the Oscars. Except a 1237 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 1: lot of times it's just like this fucking crazy, you know, 1238 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 1: filmmaker that doesn't know how to make a movie, and 1239 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's like the Room or something to that end. Yeah, 1240 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 1: But I but they call it cinema suicide because I uh, 1241 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 1: they said they walked into the Chinese Chinese Multiplex in 1242 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,040 Speaker 1: Hollywood to see one of these four walled movies, and 1243 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 1: the usher, who was like a teenage boy like was 1244 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 1: ripping their ticket like looking at them and goes, all right, 1245 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:48,720 Speaker 1: cinema suicide. 1246 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,720 Speaker 3: It was like, that's exactly what you would call it, 1247 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 3: Like you walking into a movie which you know is 1248 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 3: like not gonna be for you or is going to 1249 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,640 Speaker 3: be painful to endure. 1250 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 1: And that's suicide. That's kind of how it felt with 1251 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 1: this concept. 1252 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 2: Yes, anyways, great emails, Thank you all for writing in. 1253 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. Those are some really fun ones. Now 1254 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 2: let's get to employees picks film recommendations based on the 1255 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 2: theme of the discussion, Millie, What do you got? 1256 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,639 Speaker 1: So? I'm going for a pre code movie this week, 1257 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 1: And the whole reason why I picked it was I 1258 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:37,559 Speaker 1: was very inspired by this Armie Hammer character I'm Sorry 1259 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,519 Speaker 1: to Bother You, and it's this movie from nineteen thirty 1260 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: two called Island of Lost Souls based on HG. Wells 1261 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 1: is the Island of Doctor Moreau. I love it because 1262 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:54,599 Speaker 1: I love Charles Lawton, the actor. 1263 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,800 Speaker 2: Directive Hot Night of the Hunter. 1264 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 1: Correct, great actor, but he is creepiest fucking this movie. 1265 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 1: It's basically like, as you can imagine, it's like, you know, 1266 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 1: a sailor that is washed up on a island and 1267 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,559 Speaker 1: Doctor Moreau, the scientist, is like, hey, check out all 1268 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 1: this fucked up shit I did. So that's kind of 1269 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:19,840 Speaker 1: like what I thought of this week when I was 1270 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 1: watching Sorry to Bother You. So that's my employee pick 1271 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,520 Speaker 1: Island Muscles. 1272 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 2: Very good, uh my pick. Is a movie called They 1273 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 2: Cloned Tyrone from twenty twenty three. It is directed by 1274 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 2: Jewel Taylor and it stars John Boyega, Jamie Fox, Tayona 1275 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:42,640 Speaker 2: Paris and it is a sci fi comedy sit in 1276 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,960 Speaker 2: the ghetto in the hood. Ah, the name of the 1277 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,560 Speaker 2: hood is called the Glen. That's just how they referred 1278 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,760 Speaker 2: it to. And you're not exactly sure where it is. 1279 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,560 Speaker 2: I think that they shot it in Atlanta, But basically 1280 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 2: John Boyego plays a drug dealer and Jamie Fox is 1281 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:09,760 Speaker 2: pimp and they discover that some scientific body is spying 1282 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 2: on this hood called the Glen and like cloning people 1283 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,639 Speaker 2: and doing all sorts of strange experiments and like because 1284 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 2: like some people get killed and then they pop back 1285 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 2: up later and they're like because they got cloned and 1286 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 2: they're like, who's the real version of these people? But 1287 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,000 Speaker 2: it's funny and it's kind of cartoony and it's uh, 1288 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 2: it's good, a good sci fi movie, but it's a 1289 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 2: good time too, so they clone Tyrone. It feels kind 1290 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:46,680 Speaker 2: of similar in vibe too. Sorry to bother you. I 1291 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,839 Speaker 2: really liked it. I feel like no one. It apparently 1292 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,840 Speaker 2: came out the same weekend as Barbenheimer and so nobody saw. 1293 01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 2: But it's really I thought it was really good. I 1294 01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:58,680 Speaker 2: think it could have been a bigger hit if it 1295 01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 2: hadn't come out in the largest movie weekend. It is 1296 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:07,040 Speaker 2: like in history. So check it out. It's on Netflix 1297 01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:11,639 Speaker 2: right now. Okay, if you're interested. So, but that's our show. Yes, 1298 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 2: if you want to get film advice, or if you 1299 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 2: have a GROP or GP, please write in too Dear 1300 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,440 Speaker 2: Movies at exactlyrightmedia dot com or leave us a voicemail 1301 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,639 Speaker 2: and email it to Dear Movies at exactlyrightmedia dot com. Now, 1302 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 2: we called for submissions for date stories in the movie theater, 1303 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 2: so send those in and try to keep those under 1304 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 2: two minutes if you could. But send those in to 1305 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,760 Speaker 2: Deer Movies at exactlyrightmedia dot com. 1306 01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: That is correct, and follow us on socials. We are 1307 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,600 Speaker 1: at Deer Movies I Love You on Instagram and Facebook, 1308 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: our letterbox handles if you want them, or at Cacylio 1309 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 1: O'Brien at Mdcericho and you got to listen to Dear 1310 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Movies I Love You on the iHeartRadio app or Apple 1311 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,520 Speaker 1: podcasts or wherever you get podcasts whatever. 1312 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 2: That's right. My personal favorite catcher is overcast, which is 1313 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 2: an independent pod catcher podcast play and it's a really 1314 01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,440 Speaker 2: cool thing. Nice get on your iPhone. 1315 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,599 Speaker 1: Thanks for that suggestion. That's great. 1316 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:18,040 Speaker 2: You're welcome next week, Millie. What are we doing well? 1317 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why we're inspired by this. Perhaps it's 1318 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 1: because we're in the waiting days of winter and maybe 1319 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 1: spring is around the cold. 1320 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:28,719 Speaker 2: You're wearing a scarf, Millie. 1321 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 1: We're cold, but spring is around the corner, at least 1322 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,479 Speaker 1: around here. It's like, you know, I don't know March 1323 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,280 Speaker 1: for I know, that's what I'm saying. 1324 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 2: Maybe it's Jebruary is a very cold month. 1325 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 1: Well, to that end, we are going to watch John 1326 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 1: Carpenter is the thing from nineteen eighty two, and we're 1327 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 1: going to watch men congregated underground in the depths of winter. 1328 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,559 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, see what happens. 1329 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's right. 1330 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm living in the thing right now. 1331 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 2: It's like it's been negative degrees from week, like over 1332 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,679 Speaker 2: a week. It was like negative twenty one the other day. 1333 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, so I'm excited to watch another cold thing. 1334 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:20,799 Speaker 2: I guess well, Millie, it was great chatting with you today. 1335 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for a wonderful episode. 1336 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 1: Oh I had a blast. Thanks everybody, Bye bye. This 1337 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,840 Speaker 1: has been an exactly right production hosted by me Milli 1338 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 1: to Chercho and produced by my co host Casey O'Brien. 1339 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,240 Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfogel. Our associate producer 1340 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,680 Speaker 2: is Christina Chamberlain, our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and 1341 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 2: our artwork is by Vanessa Ilac. 1342 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 1: Our incredible theme music is by the best band in 1343 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,560 Speaker 1: the entire world, The Softies. 1344 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 2: Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia Hartstark, 1345 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 2: Daniel Kramer and Millie to Jericho. 1346 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:05,440 Speaker 1: We love you. Goodbye, becu't reminded anything