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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's the almost Famous podcast. We are here breaking down

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Speaker 2: this week's headlines in Bachelor Nation, and we have some doozies.

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Speaker 3: Ashley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna start with a few that I think

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Speaker 2: kind of warm us up a little bit. Okay, just

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Speaker 2: warm us up into the big ones. The Bachelor's Peter Weber.

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Speaker 4: And this is a big one.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's the biggest Oh why not? I

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Speaker 2: don't know, because it's not like confirmed.

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Speaker 3: We don't really know.

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Speaker 2: There's a video, yeah, but it's not confirmed that they're

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Speaker 2: like hooking.

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Speaker 5: Up sitting on the same side of the booth. Let's

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Speaker 5: just jump into it, Okay. So here's the stitch. Peter

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Speaker 5: and Maria we're seeing out to dinner in New York City.

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Speaker 5: All right, So it is misleading, you're kind of right,

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Speaker 5: because I'm watching the video right now and it's one

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Speaker 5: of those circular booths where like you just all sit

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Speaker 5: next to each other. If you just read the article,

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Speaker 5: it sounds like, oh, wow, two of them cozy on

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Speaker 5: a date. No, they're with a group of people and

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Speaker 5: they're on a booth that is like the semi circle.

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Speaker 5: They happen to be sitting next to each other.

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Speaker 4: So Ben's right, not as juicy.

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Speaker 2: It's not as juicy as we'd want it to be.

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Speaker 2: We will follow along. I'm assuming Peter was in New

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Speaker 2: York City because he did run the New York City Marathon,

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Speaker 2: which we'll talk about in a little bit. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that if that's where Maria is living or not

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Speaker 2: right now. I haven't necessarily kept.

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Speaker 3: Track of that.

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Speaker 2: Actually, the biggest part of this story for me is

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Speaker 2: I look at this video and it is a circular booth.

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Speaker 2: Do you know the story of the circular booth?

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Speaker 3: And I do.

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Speaker 4: You have a bachelor or related story with it?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: It like you and me sitting in a booth.

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Speaker 3: No, like thath No.

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Speaker 2: I mean see you and I would be sitting like

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Speaker 2: this at some point if like it was a big

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Speaker 2: group of us going out, I'd be like, hey, Ash,

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Speaker 2: sit next to me.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, eat a buffer.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: When we open up our very first restaurant ever in Denver, Ashkara,

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Speaker 2: my biggest thing I pushed for was to add this

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Speaker 2: circular booth in the corner. Here's the problem with the

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Speaker 2: circular booth if you sit on the back side of

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Speaker 2: the circular booth, it's a pain in the butt to

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Speaker 2: go to the bathroom or do anything. So nobody wants

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Speaker 2: to sit in the booth. And that's the only thing

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Speaker 2: I asked for. That's why I no longer put my

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Speaker 2: input in when we design our restaurant.

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Speaker 3: Next headline is this.

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Speaker 2: This is you know, it's interesting Ashley to me that

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Speaker 2: we've been so invested into the Caitlin Burstow kind of

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Speaker 2: romance journey since really the show and Jason Tarctick, as

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Speaker 2: we've definitely spoken about way too many times, is a

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Speaker 2: part of that journey. Well, Jason then moves on to

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Speaker 2: Kat Stickler. She is very famous on TikTok and the

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Speaker 2: Instagram for her content. They dated for we don't really

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Speaker 2: know how many more, but it was longer than I

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Speaker 2: think we realized. Well, they just recently announced that they

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Speaker 2: broke up. The headline says this, and we're not talking

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Speaker 2: about this as much as I thought we would Bachelor Nations.

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Speaker 2: Jason Tartick details hard that's his word, hard, aftermath of

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Speaker 2: Kat Stickler breakup.

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Speaker 5: He was at Heidi Kluton's twenty third annual Halloween party.

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Speaker 5: It's probably a pretty big get invite, and on the

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Speaker 5: carpet he was interviewed, he said, every day gets a

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Speaker 5: little better. I'm doing okay. Breakups are just really hard.

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Speaker 4: That's it. They're really hard. He goes, I think my

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Speaker 4: breakup advice.

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Speaker 5: I guess he was asked about that, especially that he's

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Speaker 5: now navigated to public breakups. He says, I think that

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Speaker 5: just sitting in it and learning from everything and just

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Speaker 5: trying to grow to be a better you than there

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Speaker 5: was yesterday.

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Speaker 4: It's never enough, it's never easy. It's tough.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting. I love Jason. He's one of my closest

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Speaker 3: friends from the franchise. That's not a secret.

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Speaker 2: I need to ask him at some point how he

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Speaker 2: gets these invites, because, let's be honest, he still is

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Speaker 2: a bachelor contestant who does a finance podcast about money

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Speaker 2: and where you know and how money is circulating through

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Speaker 3: But like he's still going to these huge events.

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Speaker 2: He's always traveling, he's always showing up at something, He's

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Speaker 2: in celebrity games. It's like he is working really hard

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Speaker 2: to keep this thing going. Or maybe I'm missing it.

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Speaker 5: No, No, he definitely has a great PR person or

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Speaker 5: he himself is the great PR person, but he's definitely hustling.

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Speaker 3: It makes me tired watching it.

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Speaker 5: As he's single, he's well, he's well, no, he was

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Speaker 5: doing that when he had girlfriends too.

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Speaker 3: It just makes me tired.

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Speaker 2: Next one is this Kelsey Anderson's dad, Mark spends Halloween

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Speaker 2: with One Tree hillstar Barbara. Now we spoke about this

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Speaker 2: in kind of like passing, but we have more details now.

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Speaker 5: Yes, So Barbara Alan Woods was the mom on One

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Speaker 5: Tree Hill. She was Nathan's mom. It was Nathan's mom,

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Speaker 5: and she was seen out with Mark. This was like

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Speaker 5: the weekend before Halloween, and they were with her daughter,

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Speaker 5: and they were both dressed up as Cinderella and Prince Charming.

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Speaker 5: So that's couple's costume. And they were and far enough

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Speaker 5: along as I don't want to say a couple that

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Speaker 5: they would do a couple's costume.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they're dating Ashley?

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Speaker 5: I do definitely. And they went Instagram public. So two things.

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Speaker 5: I know that the age range just probably affects things.

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Speaker 5: They probably like, don't think it's that big of a

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Speaker 5: deal to post a picture on Instagram as a hard launch,

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Speaker 5: but I think that this is something.

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think it's awesome if they're finding

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Speaker 2: companionship and if this is working. I think Bachelor Nation

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Speaker 2: in general hasn't realized the ramifications of what we're seeing,

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Speaker 2: which means that Mark won't be our Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, Ben, how did this not dawn on

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Speaker 5: me yet?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We're excited and happy for him, But selfishly, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: dang it, like he was going to be a really

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Speaker 2: good choice.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jonathan, it is done.

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Speaker 5: Or Pascal, come on, Pascal, that's all right, Pascal too.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I still not convince the past scal's a ready or

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Speaker 5: once he's he's sixty something, he's ready.

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Speaker 4: But does he want I don't know.

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Speaker 2: This actually is what I think, and I could be wrong.

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Speaker 2: The biggest headline of all headlines here?

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Speaker 3: Okay? You ready for it?

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Speaker 2: I saw it on Instagram. And as you know and

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Speaker 2: our listeners know, I am not very social media savvy.

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Speaker 2: It is not a huge part of my life. I

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Speaker 2: usually am behind the times on what is happening with

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Speaker 2: headlines and dating and all these things, and I get

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Speaker 2: caught up by you and on this show well. On

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Speaker 2: Instagram this week, I saw Ariel Frankel post a picture

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Speaker 2: or a TikTok with Jeremy Simon, and I thought this

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Speaker 2: was a big deal. Ariel was obviously a character that

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Speaker 2: We don't remember Jeremy as so much, but that's okay.

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Speaker 5: Well, Jeremy was fourth. We do remember Ariel, and she

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Speaker 5: was further back in time than him. Jeremy was fourth

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Speaker 2: So here's the headline. Ariel Frankel and Jeremy Simon sparked

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Speaker 2: dating rumors with viral TikTok. So it's pretty much what

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Speaker 5: Okay, So the two of them are both from New

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Speaker 5: York City area, both from recent seasons. They're both Jewish,

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Speaker 5: they're both they both talk about their culture a lot,

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Speaker 5: both part of their hometown episodes. This doesn't surprise me,

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Speaker 5: this coupling and this TikTok. Basically it's her dubbing over

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Speaker 5: the line because I try dating apps. Oh god. First

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Speaker 5: of all, they just need to put all the apps

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Speaker 5: on one app and call it what's left. And then

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Speaker 5: the camera pans over to Jeremy and he's staring at

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Speaker 5: the camera while sitting with Ariel Ariel at a restaurant,

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Speaker 2: You know, Jeremy has you know, kind of been obviously

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Speaker 2: from this last season. He did make a name for himself.

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Speaker 2: He was a part of the group that went out

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Speaker 2: in New York with Devin to the club, and so

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Speaker 2: it's kind of how we best know him, honestly, because

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Speaker 2: it's how we last saw him. It's a little recency

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Speaker 2: bias there. Can you see this thing working? Ashley? Do

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Speaker 2: you actually think they're dating? Or is this kind of

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Speaker 2: what Bachelor Nation seems to be into right now with

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Speaker 2: the Jen and Jonathan stuff and all these other things.

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Speaker 2: Is they like to create a headline. It's helpful.

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Speaker 5: We all like to create a headline. It's helpful, it's fun.

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Speaker 5: And I think that there is something there. I don't

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Speaker 5: think that you do it unless someone in the rumored

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Speaker 5: couple is like kind of down to play with a rumor.

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Speaker 4: Goodness, right, don't you.

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Speaker 5: I mean when Jared and I were rumored, you know,

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Speaker 5: when Jared and I would post together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're both down to play with it.

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Speaker 2: I doubt there's anything going on.

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably really Why do you doubt.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, just because you think she's.

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Speaker 4: Too hot for him? You do you did see it working.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say it this way. I don't see it working.

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Speaker 2: Caylin Bristow praises Zach Clark before twenty twenty four New

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Speaker 2: York Marathon. Okay, Ashley, you're they're the best of friends.

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Speaker 4: They are. They're the best of friends.

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Speaker 2: Either they're the best of friends, or there is something

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Speaker 2: romantic happening, Like at some point they just have to

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Speaker 2: tell us, because she flew to New York City to

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Speaker 2: like celebrate him doing the marathon. If there isn't any

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Speaker 2: romantic involvement, then we just want to watch their friendship

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Speaker 2: blossom because it is the most intimate friendship I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: This is one of the most public moments they've had together.

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Speaker 5: She was in New York City for the marathon. He

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Speaker 5: posted about the marathon, how proud he was, how grateful

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Speaker 5: he was being part of it, and then Caitlin wrote

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Speaker 5: in the comments, you are one bright ass light.

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Speaker 3: We did see pictures of her there.

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Speaker 5: She was, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, she was there,

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Speaker 5: she was in New York. She was showing a clip

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Speaker 5: from like a holiday display in New York City, and

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Speaker 5: she's like, New York is ready for Christmas, you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe insinuating that she might be there around Christmas time.

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Speaker 4: And that's what we have. But I think that is

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Speaker 4: a good amount.

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Speaker 5: And if we're going based off of the pictures of

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Speaker 5: them from New Year's Eve last year, it's as if

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Speaker 5: they've maybe been like best friends for close to a year.

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Speaker 2: Best friends, that's what we'll say, best friends. Speaking of

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Speaker 2: best friends, Tasha Adams also ran the New York Marathon.

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Speaker 5: Could you imagine if they ran into ran punintended into each.

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Speaker 4: The race, which was a good move.

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Speaker 5: I remember a couple months ago there was a TikToker

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Speaker 4: So if you don't feel good.

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Speaker 3: Don't do it.

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Speaker 4: Don't don't do it, don't do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they are so cute.

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Speaker 5: They've been He's been posing a lot of her on

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Speaker 5: it's just kind of like adorbs that Like Tyler Cameron,

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Speaker 4: He said that the reason.

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Speaker 5: That they've been keeping it quiet is I've been in

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Speaker 4: People like to niitpick and like to judge and all that.

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Speaker 5: I've dealt with it, but not everyone else has aka

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Speaker 2: So it means they're in a great place. I think

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Speaker 3: Sharing about it. Good for them.

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Speaker 2: Claire Crawley shares how she'll tell daughter about her bachelorette journey.

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Speaker 5: Claire is definitely a little sassy towards the whole thing now,

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Speaker 3: You go girl.

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Speaker 2: Final headline is this bachelorette alum Chase McNary expecting first

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Speaker 5: Well, congratulations to them. They got married. When did they

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Speaker 4: Why July? Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 5: And now they're having a baby. He's thirty five. And

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Speaker 4: Like, does he still live in No, he lives in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Now he lives in Arizona. Now okay.

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Speaker 5: Well, bachelination is of course saying congratulations in the comments

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Speaker 5: Christ Grousei, Adam Raven and we're all so happy for them.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be a really good dad. He's got like

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Speaker 2: Ben dad energy, just enough to keep things interesting.

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Speaker 5: The headline, no, no, no, Our final headline is that

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Speaker 5: Ben put a crip together this week and it was

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Speaker 5: that is not belittling the other things that he does.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm exhausted. It was wild.

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Speaker 2: The nursery is now done. How cool is that it

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Speaker 4: So, hey, do you names we do? Do you know

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's set.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's set today. I mean last week just came

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Speaker 4: What letter does it start with?

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you. It's you. Too many people guess it.

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Speaker 4: Is it weird? Is it traditional? Is it somewhere in between?

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Speaker 3: Somewhere in between.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to be weird enough where people are

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: Is the way I would the only hint I'll give.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Indiana, that's not a bad name.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I don't think that.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of cute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of cute.

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, we're you know, we're I guess we're

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Speaker 5: Not I've always been a fan of not telling names,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to be stealing my name. And then

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Speaker 5: you also don't really want to get feedback from other

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want that, like, hey, this is the name,

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Speaker 5: My mom still doesn't like Hayden Haben. She thinks it's ridiculous. Mom,

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Speaker 5: get used to hey, and our producer says she's predicting

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Speaker 5: the name in the Rose, which I can't believe. I

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Speaker 5: said Indiana before Rose when you said it was part

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Speaker 5: of your life and Waalan sounds like he's confirming it.

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Speaker 3: All right. See, hey, guys, until next time, I've been

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Speaker 3: bed Bye.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to Ashley.

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