1 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Sable advice seller Love and Love and Love. Hello, Welcome 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter, 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: with my friend Corey Andrew from Instinct magazine dot com. Corey, 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: are you there? I am Hugh Darling. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Lo and Lo. The acoustics today sound lovely, Corey. Where 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: are you what? I happened to be in a little 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: beach cottage town excuse me, in America, So I won't 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: I won't say where because I want my starkers to 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: find me. You took, you took a little cottage for 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: a couple of months. That's lovely to get away and 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: thank you. Yes I did. And one of the best 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: acoustics in the house happened to be a bathroom. So 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: I've set up my studio in the bathroom. Should I 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: think I read somewhere? That's when where Mariah carry Like 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: recorded a couple of her hits and I think Salt 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: and Pepper two When they started at their career, they 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: couldn't afford a studio or anything. They did in the bathroom. 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: If it's good enough for Salt and Pepper, it's good 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: enough for and Rob. What time is it? It's why 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going on with Ellen, so 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: I'll try to get it all in as simply as possible. 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: So Ellen has actually addressed the allegations. She sent her 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: entire staff a letter and email, finally talking out about 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: the alleged toxic culture, the work environment. The Hollywood Reporter, 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: of course, they did got hold of the letter. Ellen 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: claims that moving forward, she's taken responsibility and she vows 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: to correct the issues. She also addressed those who feel 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: like they've been discriminated against, reminding everybody that she's been 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: judged herself. She nearly lost her entire career when she 30 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: came out of the closet, So she is saying she 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: certainly understands that and has a deep compassion for those 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: who are treated differently because of the way they look 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: as sexuality or what the reason. So the let us starts, 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: which I think is such an interesting way to start 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: the letter. Hello everyone, it's Ellen. They know it's you, Ellen, 36 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: I mean who else? So she said from day one 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: of the show, she was told. She told everybody in 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: the very first meeting that the Ellen Degenera Show would 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: be a place of happiness where no one would ever 40 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: raise their voice will be treated with disrespect. She went 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: on to say something obviously has changed. She's disappointed to 42 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: find out what's going on. She's sorry for that. She 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: does take responsibility, she adds, because her name is above 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: the door on the show and measures are being taken 45 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: to correct these issues. Now, some people think this is 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: like a non apology apology where you blame others. I 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: read it as Ellen started out with good intention. The 48 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: show has been on over a decade, so a long 49 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: time ago. Ellen started out with good intentions, but people 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: let her down. That's how I read it. So she said, 51 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: issues have been brought to my attention. No, Ellen, this 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: is your show. People shouldn't have to bring you this stuff. 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: You should know you're the boss. I know it's a 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: big show, Corey. I know there's a lot of staff there. 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: I've been there many many times. It is like a 56 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: small company actually a big company, so there's a lot 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: of people to oversee, and of course Ellen isn't responsible 58 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: for everybody, but she sets the tone. She also said 59 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: that she's learning people who work for her and with 60 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: her are speaking on her behalf and misrepresenting who I am, 61 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: and that has to stop. That can happen. When I 62 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: was a publicist, I would talk for Diddy and Jlo 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: and Jessica Simpson, and I always try to speak in 64 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: their voice. So if I was talking to you from 65 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Diddy's perspective, it was a very different answer from Jessica 66 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Simpson's perspective. So now she's going to try and stay 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: on top of everything and clearly make some changes. I'm 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: told one of the executive producers is probably going to 69 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: be fired, also to a lot of other people are 70 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: expected to be let go. What do you think, Corey? 71 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Oh wow, well listen, I think that Ellen needs to 72 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: take responsibility, like you said, But I will say I 73 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: interviewed kayl and Allen from her show, Who's that wonderful 74 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: like YouTuber who she found and made him like a Yes, 75 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: that's right he said to me. I asked him, how 76 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: how is it working for Ellen? He said to me, 77 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: She's the best boss I've ever had. She cares about everyone, 78 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: and so I'm confused by all of it. Still, I've 79 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: had mixed messages on there because I know people that 80 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: work at the show, and they clearly work on walk 81 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: on eggshells. I've been at the show many times. I've 82 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: not been on as a guest, but I've been backstage 83 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: when I went with Jessica and different celebrities that I represented. 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: I gotta say it was a little tense. Everybody was 85 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: walking on eggshells, which seems to have been confirmed by 86 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: an Australian host who is revealing that he did an 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: interview with Ellen in two thousand and thirteen and said 88 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: it was really bizarre. He got a bunch of rules 89 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: before Ellen arrived. They controlled everything, the set, the lights, 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: where she would sit, what she could be asked. He said, 91 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: nobody could talk to Ellen. They were told nobody is 92 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: allowed to approach Ellen. This is a cliche, but he 93 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: said it happened. He was told you cannot look her 94 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: in the eye. Nobody's allowed to look at her. He 95 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: didn't say she was a bad person. In fact, he 96 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: concluded he had such limited interactions with her, he has 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: really no idea who she was. But he agreed with 98 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: me and said it felt like all the staff were 99 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: walking on eggshells. Places where you've worked, Corey, then don't 100 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: you know within the first five minutes. It's like going 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: on a date. You know within five minutes who they are. 102 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: What do you think that is so true. In fact, 103 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: you know in my career now, at the stage I 104 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: walk in, if it doesn't feel right, I'm like, thank you, 105 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pass when I control that now absolutely, when 106 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: I first met you, So Corey and I then in 107 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: known each other about six months or so, and we 108 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: met at Potty and Knows, my favorite bar with MD. 109 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: I think Miss Steve was there for a drinking poop. 110 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: I know within five minutes you were Darling. I knew it. 111 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: I just know. What did you think of me, Darling 112 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: when you met me? Remember I told you I was 113 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: surprised that you really are nice. You are your brand. 114 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: He's the real deal, people, He's the real Listen to that. 115 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Listen to that. None of this Andy Kobe in here, 116 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: and it can be a little bit sharp off the show. 117 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: You know that it could have This could happen to 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: other celebrities out there. I'm not going to name names yet, 119 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: although I just did. But being nice everybody, because if 120 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: you've been a monster for a long time, now the 121 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: world has changed and people are going to speak at 122 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: so I think we're gonna get more of this. This 123 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: brings us to our Bowl question of the day. So 124 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: Ellen degenerous addresses the allegations in a letter she sent 125 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: to her staff. Is she sorry? Do you think she's sorry? 126 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: Or do you think she is blaming others? You can 127 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: look at the letter, it's on Naughty gossip dot com. 128 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: Yes she's sorry, No she's blaming others. Go to our 129 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob or our Facebook page 130 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: Naughty Gossip to leave a comment and be sure to 131 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: check back a Monday for your results. Corey, what are 132 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: you working on? Well, we've got our first statement from 133 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: Tamara Braxton since her hospitalization. Yeah, and so she posted 134 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: a very lengthy update on her Instagram recently and it 135 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: was her first since she's been hospitalized. In that post, 136 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: she now admits that it was a suicide attempt, and 137 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: she has a photograph of her and her seven year 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: old son, Logan, and she wrote, sharing with you it 139 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: has been my darkest will be the light for any 140 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: man or woman who was feeling the same defeat I 141 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: felt just one week ago. I felt betrayed, taken advantage of, 142 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: overworked and underpaid, and I wrote a letter two months ago. Now, 143 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: she was referencing the letters she wrote to the we 144 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: TV bosses and it was about her show. Yeah, she 145 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: was saying she wanted to be freed from what she 146 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: believed was excessive and unfair treatment, and who she was 147 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: became like very little as a person because all that 148 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: mattered to the corporate giants, she claims is who she 149 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: was on the show, so that wasn't really her authentic self, 150 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: and she felt like she was dying a slow death. 151 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: And she says mental illness is real. Reality show stars 152 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: have no rights, no protections, and she does not like 153 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: the way black people are portrayed on television. So, UM, 154 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Rob they they the WE TV people 155 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: canceled her show. Obviously they put this postponed. Yes, Um, 156 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: I would imagine that would have been something they would 157 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: have done at this point. So I don't know. I 158 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: think she's I don't want to be mean here because 159 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: of the situation, but it sounds like a little bit 160 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: of the girl who Cried Wolf to me. She pursued 161 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: fame and fortuneral right, and I don't think it panned 162 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: out the way she wanted, and now she's really had 163 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: a breakdown over it. So what do you think is 164 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Tamar's real concern? Here? Very very complicated here, I've met 165 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: Tamar many times, and I've actually got to say the 166 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: Tamar we see on we TV is the Tamar that 167 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: I found her to be. She was larger than life, 168 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: she was very funny, very sassy. I actually adored her. 169 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: It feels like it feels like she wants to be 170 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: perceived as somebody else now or maybe she's changed. That's 171 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: kinder to say, maybe she's changed. The best way to 172 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: do that is to let people see you. I think 173 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: having your show postponed isn't going to help you change 174 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: your image. It's really really tricky. And this isn't just 175 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: for people on television. We all, to some extent, play 176 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: a role. We all exaggerate certain parts of our personalities. 177 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: We all do it. Think of those nights when you 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: go out people you don't really want to go, but 179 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: you have to go, and you're gonna put on a show, 180 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: but you sort of you decide who you want to 181 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: be and what you want to do. You know. I 182 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: love I love laughing, and I do like being a 183 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: little bit of the court jester, but there are nights 184 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: Corey when I'm not quite as into it and I 185 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: just have a quiet drink with Miss d or you 186 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: like so I think we're so multifaceted and people are 187 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: so different, but you can't play a role for many, 188 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: many years and then expect to be perceived as somebody else. 189 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: And I'm making sense. No, absolutely, And listen, there's so 190 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: many of those girls who do those reality shows and 191 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: their lives completely changed. Nanny Leaks, for example, goes from 192 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: being a stripper to being a brand right with QVZ products. 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: And so you get out of it. I think what 194 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: your intentions are, and maybe for Tam Marshy fell short, yeah, 195 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: like the grass always seems greener like you. Madonna for 196 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: a while really wanted wanted to be thought of as 197 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: an actress, not a singer. Didn't really work out, But 198 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, I sort of me. I'm really grateful at 199 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: my little piece of the pie. I know who I am. 200 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: That's what the problem is here for me, Tamar, forget TV, 201 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: forget jobs, sit down by yourself and decide who you are. 202 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: You've got to figure out who you are and once you've, 203 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: once you've come to peace with that, then live that life. 204 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: That's what I think i'd said about that one. This 205 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: is a wild story. So Mega marcol has agreed to 206 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: pay ninety thousand dollars in legal fears. That's a lot 207 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: of money considering I know they're not earning anything either. 208 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: Would be the one of them ever got a job. 209 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: So Mega was agreed to pay nine dollars in legal 210 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: fears after losing the first leg of her court battle 211 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: with the United Kingdom Press. The Duchess of Sussex is 212 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: in an ongoing legal battle with The Daily Mail, who 213 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: published a series of articles and a letter that her 214 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: dad had sent them. So she sent her dad a letter, 215 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: the dad gave it to the Daily Mail. So just 216 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: be clear about this. The Daily Mail didn't break into 217 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: his phone, the break into his house and steal a letter. 218 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: He gave it them. He might have even sold it 219 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: to them. So now she lost an earlier ruling in 220 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: May and has agreed to pay the publisher's cost. This comes. 221 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: This comes at the moment where Megan is working very 222 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: hard to try and keep the names of five friends 223 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: from being revealed who spoke to People magazine to defender. 224 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: So Megan's friends have been you know, we've been telling 225 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: her side of the story. I think a lot of 226 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: her friends spoke to this new book that's coming out, 227 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: Finding Freedom. I'm sure, Megan agreed to it and sort 228 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: of liked it. Let me let me explain basically here 229 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: how it works. So, if you're going to write a 230 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: book or do a TV show or printer magazine, we're 231 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: going to do it with or without you. When I 232 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: was working with j lo E came to me and said, 233 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: we're going to do a true Hollywood special an hour 234 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: on Jennifer Lopez. Jennifer didn't really want it to happen, 235 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: but they were doing it with or without you. They 236 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: weren't asking your permission. They were basically saying, we're doing this. 237 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: Do you want to cooperate? Now? If you don't cooperate 238 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: and you tell all your friends and family to not talk, 239 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: then the only people left to talk are people that 240 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: don't like you. So that's not a good mood move. 241 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: So what you should do is stuck these things with 242 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: all your friends. So it sounds as if Megan did that. 243 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Now she doesn't want those names revealed. Do you think 244 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: all this legal fighting with the press that Megan's doing 245 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: Corey is actually going to help her or is this 246 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: going to hurt her? Oh gosh, what does he The 247 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: people who really believe that she should have that sort 248 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: of fight with the paparazzi because they are still comparing 249 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: her to Diana. I mean, no matter what people think, 250 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: that comparison is always going to be. There's somebody's a 251 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: pretty great comparison. I've been compared to, you know, really 252 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: awful people. Somebody compared me to Princess Diana. I'd say 253 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: I'd take that, you know. But I mean just because 254 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: the second they really know what the paparazzi quote unquote 255 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: did to Diana, so they're protective, and then people are 256 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: protective of Megan. So but I don't think she's been 257 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: chased around. Like when you saw the paparazzi chased Diana 258 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: around him was appalling. It was terrible. That's changed in Britain. 259 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: Those rules have changed. There's no longer perhaps chasing it 260 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: down the street. I mean, I think Megan wants to 261 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: control her narrative. I certainly understand that she worked very 262 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: hard to make herself super famous. I'm not saying that's 263 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: why she married Harry, but before Harry she had a publicist. 264 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: We will always get an emails about her. Please write 265 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: about her. Please do some Missteve met her. Miss d 266 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: had to meet up with her to write a story, 267 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: and Missy didn't even want to do it, but she 268 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: did it as a favor. And so when did chase 269 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: something like fame? Be careful because eventually you might catch it, 270 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: which Megan did. And now it's not quite as much fun. 271 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: What's going on with Tyra Banks and Dancing with the 272 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: Stars calling, Oh well, this is such a weird story 273 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: because okay, So Jordan Fisher, the dancer and an actor 274 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: from Dancing with the Stars, he's called the hiring of 275 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: Tara Banks as the host of the show. He's recently 276 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: called that casting decision odd. So yeah, he says, it's 277 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: odd that Tara is very talented, he says, and most 278 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: of ABC knows what are doing most of the time. 279 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of time. I've seen when it 280 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: actually happens, he told ET. But he added, I'm curious. 281 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: The tonal quality of the show is so family oriented, 282 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: and I think Tom Burgeran and Aaron Andrews have played 283 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: a large part in cultivating that feeling of fans at home, 284 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: um feeling for fans at home. But what's weird is 285 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: that he's talking as if Tara Banks is like a 286 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: Vegas stripper, or something like Tara Banks is also America. 287 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: You know she had she was like a talk show. 288 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: She was like a baby Oprah. She was like, So 289 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: I don't so, Rob, what do you think? I used 290 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: to work for Tyra? So I know Tyer quite well. 291 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: I think, what's what is he getting at here? It's 292 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: the same thing when America's Got Talent hired Heidi Clue. 293 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: Tyra is known primarily as a model. Yes, she's had 294 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: a talk show, She's had a very successful reality show 295 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: to America's Next, Got America's Model, So she does do this. 296 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: But I do think, why are we hiring a model 297 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: with no dance experience to host Dancing with the Stars. 298 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: Well Tom had no dance experience and Aaron Andrews didn't 299 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: until she was a competitor, until she was a start 300 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: on the show. So I think that's what he's getting 301 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: that here, Like, shouldn't we have hired like Paula Abdul, 302 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: who's a dancer? Do you know what I mean? Like 303 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: that hired like Beyonce wouldn't do it? But what I mean, 304 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: do you need a dancer to host that show? I 305 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: think that's what he's getting at He won Dancing with 306 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: the Stars. By the way, Jordan's I think the show 307 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: is going to change a lot. And this is the 308 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: problem when you change a show that or anything that's successful, 309 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. One of 310 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: the reasons I like Dancing with the Stars is because 311 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: it's so uncool. It's not hip. It's old fashioned glamour. 312 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: It's ritzy, glitzy sparkles. I hope Tira doesn't try to 313 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: make it something else. I hope she doesn't get rid 314 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: of the orchestra. I love a fifty piece band playing 315 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: old nol Coward songs or theater songs. I hope it 316 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: now isn't modern music. And I hope the dancing stays 317 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: ballroom dancing. It will be interesting to see what Tyra does, because, 318 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: as we said on this show, she's not just the 319 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: new host. No, no, she's the new executive producer. She's 320 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: the boss. I know you work for Tyra, and you 321 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: know what I know Tyra too. She's very hands on. 322 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: Mark Lupo, who hosted us on Thursdays, he used to 323 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: work for Tyra and her talk show. He said, she's 324 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: a very hands on producer. So you know, Tyra is 325 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: looking at everything about that show. I hope she doesn't 326 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: put pictures up of herself everywhere you go. She's gonna 327 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: change her to dancing with Terra. She's gonna be dancing 328 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: with Tyra. I do love your tire if you're listening, 329 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: but it is always about Tyra. Every picture is gonna 330 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: be Tira back. Okay, So before we get a break, 331 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: this is an adorable story. A mega a super mega 332 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift fan has gone viral. So Daphanie sent out 333 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: a little tweets before she went on vacation. She wrote, 334 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to be without my phone or why WiFi 335 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: for the next two weeks. So if Taylor does anything, 336 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: please d m me and don't unfollow me or to 337 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: make me if I don't respond, Taylor dropped an album. 338 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: So while Daphanie was the way one vacation, Taylor dropped 339 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: an album. The tweet has got viral. Daphne has responded 340 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: saying I can't believe I literally this the whole album 341 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: by Taylor has lived. Now I'm gonna go and listen 342 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: to it. That sounds fantastic. We're gonna take a quick break. 343 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: We will be right back. Hey, welcome back to the 344 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: Naughty but nice, I'm rob shooting with my friend Corey. 345 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: Let's get to the polls. That so emotional. Kim Kardashian 346 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: jetted back to l A all alone. Is the marriage other? 347 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: Yes or no? Wow? A Whopping eighty two said the 348 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: marriage is over. Don't forget to vote on today's Today's Pole. 349 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: You can go to our Twitter page naughty nice Roberts 350 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: about Ellen, or you can leave a comment on Facebook 351 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: naughty gossip and should be shoeing to check back on 352 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: Monday to hear your results. Corey, who's a nice? Yes, 353 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: it's it's a lovely story about Garth Brooks. And so, 354 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: Garth Brooks, he has withdrawn from the CIMA Top Prize. 355 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: He's taken himself out of the running because of a 356 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: tweet in which there was a tweet that once that 357 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: someone said he said it stuck out in his head 358 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: and he says, hey. The person goes, hey, why doesn't 359 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: this guy just step down and leave the Entertainer of 360 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: the Year award for someone else? Okay, Garth, so he continued, though, 361 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: with all the love in the world, therefore, we are 362 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: officially pulling ourselves out of the Entertainer of the Year Award. 363 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Now we should say that he's actually picked up this 364 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: award seven times. Yeah, he's like the Meryl Streep of 365 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: the CIMA Awards barely so like leave some for the 366 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: rest of us. But it's nice because this clears the 367 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: way now for Carrie Underwood and Eric Church. They can 368 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: possibly now win the award for the very first time. 369 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: So um, you know, he has another collaborator named He 370 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: collaborated with the singer songwriter Stevie Werner for a long 371 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: Neck Bottle that song and he reacted to the news 372 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: as well. He said, hey, if he's ever go onto 373 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: a Growth Brooks live show, you'll know why he got 374 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: this nomination a seventh time. He's really really great, So 375 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: you're Brooks fair. I don't. I'm really not. I do. 376 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: I don't really listen to that much country music at all. 377 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: I do like Dolly Parton and I do like carry 378 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: On to Woods. I think this is quite gracious. If 379 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: you've put it seven times, maybe it's sweetle Then again, 380 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: maybe you should just keep going and win it ate 381 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: nine ten times. I don't know about this one. I've 382 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: never won anything, so I have no perspective of that. 383 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: But it seems like an awfully nice thing to do. 384 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: Let's get to naughtiest of the day. Naughty, noughty noughty 385 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: Needy Leaks is suggesting unfair treatment to buy Bravo. So Needy, 386 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 1: who might have been suspended for a little bit from 387 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Atlanta for getting physical with a cameraman, 388 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: has now put out a video. She put out that 389 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: famous clip where she did grab a cameraman, and now 390 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: she's put together a whole montage of clips of other 391 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: ladies that seem to do the same thing Teresa through 392 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: Andy Cohen on the Couch also to other women have 393 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: stormed off the show, including Kim zoliaka Nemesis and Lisa 394 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: vander Pump, and both of those were rewarded with spinoffs. 395 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: So what Menie is hinting here is she's got some 396 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: dirt on Bravo. She's ready to dish it. The reason 397 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: she's that naughtious it's not because she's dishing, but she 398 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: teased us. I hate to tease MENI. You've got the tea, 399 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: if you've got the receipts, you better drop them quickly 400 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: before we end. We're running out of time. Let's do 401 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: a moment of rob you gotta robbieta Robbie Gotta Rob. 402 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: So today's moment of Rob it's all about being kind 403 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: to yourself. So we've spoke a lot about being kind 404 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: to others on the show. I'm not saying you shouldn't 405 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: do that, but I'm saying kindness actually has to start 406 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: with you. So you might not be that kind to 407 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: yourself because of the way you were toured by your parents, 408 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: or your friends, or your teachers or even your community. 409 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: But I'm encouraging you before you're kind to anybody else, 410 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: be kind to you. Are you first? Put yourself first. 411 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: That's it for today, Corey, We love you. Thank you 412 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: for listening to Not Even Nice with Rama production of 413 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. Don't forget to subscribe on the I Heart 414 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcastle wherever you listen. We're loving all 415 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: the new reviews. Keep them coming and remember altogether. 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