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Speaker 6: My name's Jack O'Brien aka Miles. Why you facial in

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Speaker 8: Life is just the time between oh Bradley Cooper moments exactly.

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Speaker 7: I mean there's long running do you anytime?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, where do I go? Where do I say?

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Speaker 1: But I mean Venice is one of my favs. Wile

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it's actually no. I became I went to

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Speaker 2: However, I will say Florence beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Of Italy, the heel of the boot of Italy.

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Speaker 8: But anyway, yeah, whoever, like the that's like the wine

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Speaker 4: You know, there's these influencers trying to ask you where you're.

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Speaker 2: Those like wings that are painted on a wall.

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Speaker 8: The consensus i've read seems that you can't really go

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Speaker 4: So you'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: You'll figure it out, you'll have a blast. What is

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Speaker 8: And I need to I need to hype it up

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very easy to forget to do that. And

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Speaker 8: I have a book that I brought with me on

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Speaker 4: It's God, what the heck is it?

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Speaker 8: It's they made that really, I think kind of critically

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Speaker 4: Bible of the Bible. No, you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: What the heck is it? Now? I feel even worse

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Speaker 2: Even know the Electric State.

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Speaker 8: No, they just made that. No, they made this movie

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Speaker 8: I think like maybe six years ago. Cloud out Lists.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, that's next for me. It's Cloud out Lists.

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Constantly? Man?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to be really good about reading fiction.

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Speaker 6: I like the Bard mostly just reading Shakespeare oh really

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Speaker 7: Wow front in the original Queen's.

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Speaker 4: The original words and stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no translation because yeah, I don't even do the

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, very pretty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I do do those.

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Speaker 1: But I realize I don't know if this is the

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Speaker 2: Because I knew that thing too.

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Speaker 1: You'll go on a trip and you're like, dude, I'm

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got the Power Broker and Gravity's Rainbow that

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Speaker 8: I gotta say I cruised through audiobooks, you know, being

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Speaker 2: I feel like, do you do like crime fiction?

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Speaker 8: Let's see recently. I just I'm almost done with the

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Speaker 7: What's your favorite?

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Speaker 8: wind Up Bird Chronicle probably is my favorite. But I've

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Speaker 8: I don't know. They all kind of blend together after

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Speaker 8: about Phil Knight?

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Speaker 4: I was really good. It was very interesting. Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: Them make a movie about him, essentially making one of

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Speaker 8: And then I'm just I'm almost done listening to the

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Speaker 4: She's I love.

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Speaker 2: Her first book of short stories that was back when I.

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Speaker 7: What is something you think is overrated?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 8: For me, it's Donald Trump the president. I think a

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Speaker 8: lot of people seem to like him. I don't really

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Speaker 4: So for me, he's not He's not my taste.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, it feels like a bit of

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Speaker 8: I just don't see it. I just personally don't see it.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, like I don't know, I don't see it.

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Speaker 2: I try to have it.

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Speaker 6: Find Donald Trump the president. I was a little frog

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Speaker 8: I try to have an open mind about stuff. But

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Speaker 2: I'm really trying, really really.

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Speaker 7: Trying to canceled. Dude, what the fuck is this ship?

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Speaker 4: Say?

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Speaker 2: You fuck with it? Heavy? Trying to get invited on podcast.

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00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 4: Man, So he feels a little overrated for me.

450
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm a little weird. I don't know.

451
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't get it.

452
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 2: I don't kind of out there, you know.

453
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 4: I don't get the appeal. I mean he's sexy. Hey,

454
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, he's sexy, but.

455
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Speaker 8: I just I don't know, on an intellectual and a

456
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 8: policy level, I don't see it.

457
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I won't fight you for that.

458
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 4: I won't thanks.

459
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 6: That is one of my favorite stories we haven't covered

460
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 6: is his like self perception based on that like portrait.

461
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 7: He's like a lot of.

462
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Speaker 6: People are saying this looks nothing like it's just like

463
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Speaker 6: a person who's like, this is a bad picture of me.

464
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Speaker 2: I don't actually look like that.

465
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Speaker 8: I mean, he's not wrong in a way, like it

466
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Speaker 8: really does does not look that much like him, puffy.

467
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 8: It's like it's I mean, as much as I dislike Trump,

468
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 8: like I feel like he is right in saying like

469
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Speaker 8: the whoever painted that probably doesn't like him. But it's

470
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Speaker 8: also like why, like no one would have seen his

471
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 8: photo if.

472
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Speaker 4: You didn't talk about it, Like what are you talking

473
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 4: about this?

474
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 8: Like three people in Denver would have seen this thing

475
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Speaker 8: if you didn't like blast it on the internet and

476
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 8: make everyone make fun of you. It's just like, so,

477
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 8: I don't know, clearly not going to serve his ends

478
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 8: of people not seeing that photo.

479
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: It's definitely that's definitely a stop on the road to

480
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, sinilities or I'm in like dementia for sure,

481
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 1: like when you can't recognize yourself on some levels.

482
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Speaker 2: But I don't think he's quite there yet.

483
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Speaker 7: He's like, who's that?

484
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: But it's definitely, I mean, it's also people are like

485
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: the guy would it seems pretty flattering compared to what

486
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: your actual photo looks like, you know, like they the

487
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: person gave him a little some chim bones and shit,

488
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: and he's like.

489
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Speaker 6: This not me, No, No, he looks like Puffy in

490
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 6: a more Churchillian way. Then he's like he's he's overweight

491
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 6: in a different way, I think, and that's probably hard

492
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Speaker 6: for him to like kind of get his head around.

493
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Speaker 2: It's not even the face. He's like, my hair doesn't

494
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: look like that. That hair sucks.

495
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 4: He's like, I've never stood in front of a wall

496
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: of that color.

497
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: The problem that tie is entirely too short.

498
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Speaker 7: Let's take a.

499
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 6: Quick break and we'll come back and talk about, Uh,

500
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 6: this Trump got a bit of a fucking clown.

501
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: We'll be right back, and we're back fucking back, man.

502
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 4: And we're bad and better than ever.

503
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: You're so fucking back.

504
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 6: It's going to be increasingly interesting to watch as things,

505
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 6: you know, fuck ups happen in this administration that have

506
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 6: anything to do with technology. Give them what we've learned

507
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 6: about Donald Trump, Donald Trump's relationship to technology. Andrew, did

508
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 6: you see the clip of him talking about how Barren

509
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 6: is a computer.

510
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 4: With because he turned it back on?

511
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he turned it back on one more time.

512
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Speaker 2: We got it. I just need the whole quote I'm

513
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: trying to turn it off. His turn it off. I

514
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: turn off his laptop. I said, oh goodness.

515
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 5: And I go back five minutes later, he's got his laptop.

516
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 2: I said, how you did it?

517
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Speaker 5: None of his dad. No, he's got an unbelievable aptitude.

518
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 7: In yeah, seems so old.

519
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: He's got an unbelievable aptitude.

520
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Speaker 8: I feel like Trump is one of those people that

521
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 8: you know, he obviously is kind of dumb in a

522
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 8: lot of ways, but he's like one of those dumb

523
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 8: people who learns five smart words and just like runs

524
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 8: them into the ground. And aptitude is one of those

525
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 8: words many times, and it's not a word most people use,

526
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 8: and it's a word that kind of makes me sound

527
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 8: a little bit smart.

528
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 4: Use it too much.

529
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 6: Everything that's like used when trying to make average people

530
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 6: don't see an incredible great aptitude at this Uh, he's

531
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 6: basically a C student in technology.

532
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about that.

533
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: Jasmine Cruckett though she's got a bad aptitude, yes what?

534
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, this this whole fucking controversy scandal that now

535
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: the media has. I guess they had so much trouble

536
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: with all the other scandals, but this one, this is

537
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: like old school scandals that they're used to. So now

538
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: they're like, yep, that's bad, disappearing like foreign students for

539
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: speaking out about and supporting Palestine.

540
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that.

541
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't know about she's arresting people who are here legally,

542
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: but because they have a tattoo and you're like they're

543
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: in a gang, sent them out.

544
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: Salad got got But this one it's also funny too.

545
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: So The Atlantic has now published the full chat because

546
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: the whole time the White House was kind of they

547
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: were they were counting on the fact that they weren't

548
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: because they felt like they're gonna be responsible and not

549
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: like show the chest.

550
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: It was taken out of context essentially.

551
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also to be so adamant that nothing classified

552
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: was discussed, No attack plans were discussed.

553
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: There's not even so.

554
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: Now we see the whole thing we've got they're talking

555
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: about like when planes are in the air, what they're attacking,

556
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. There's one part too, where they're like,

557
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: we got the target. We saw him under his girlfriend's building,

558
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: and now the building has collapsed.

559
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 2: And JD. Vance's responds excellent.

560
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: Like mister Burns or some shit, and you're like, hold on,

561
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: you guys flattened a fucking building to get one person.

562
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: And I mean this should be part for the course,

563
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: because America is not about efficiency when it comes to

564
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: going after targets about any kind.

565
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: But like that was just one thing.

566
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: I read like that was a little bit like that

567
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: details like the whole building's gone, so we're good and yeah,

568
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: that very burnsy in response. But now because the transcripts

569
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: are out, they can't just do the same thing where

570
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: they're like, nah, they didn't talk about it, and then

571
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: it sort of turned into well, actually signal signal was

572
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: actually really secure, so it doesn't even matter, and now

573
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: they're just.

574
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: Like, am I gonna say so for starters? Right?

575
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: Trump is so fucking old and seen now that he

576
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: basically has no clue what any of this is. And

577
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: it shows when he was asked directly like hey, what

578
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: do you think about this whole signal thing, and he

579
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: just sounds like an old guy where a bunch of

580
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: young people were telling him it's not a big deal,

581
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 1: and that's just kind of his energy.

582
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: Do you think that Mike Walt made a mistake and

583
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: doesn't need.

584
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 5: To apologize, No, I don't think he should apologize. I

585
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 5: think he's doing his best. It's equipment and technology that's

586
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 5: not perfect, and probably he won't be using it again,

587
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 5: at least not in the very near future.

588
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 7: What do you have as sort I agree with you.

589
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: Let's get everybody in the room.

590
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 5: Whenever possible.

591
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: That was Michael Walt's chief fuck up, the guy who

592
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: did it.

593
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why we looked there.

594
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

595
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: He was basically like, and.

596
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: We probably won't be microwaving any glow sticks anymore while

597
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: wearing a beautiful shirt, and he's like, no, Daddy, no,

598
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: I will not be microwaving glow sticks in the microwave.

599
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: I know that's bad, and then just kind of dismissing

600
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: it is like it's a technology and a thing and equipment.

601
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: No they don't. This is a fuck you guys. We're

602
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: talking about classified shit and unsecured channels, which normally lands

603
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: people in prison.

604
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: This is his great genius.

605
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 5: Sometimes you find out defects by exactly things like that.

606
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 5: But I don't think it's something we're looking forward to

607
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 5: using again. We may be forced to use it. You

608
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 5: may be in a situation where you need speed as

609
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 5: opposed to gross safety, and you may be forced to

610
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 5: use it, but generally speaking, I think we probably won't

611
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 5: be using it very much.

612
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 8: Dude, gross safety, man, that's safety is nasty.

613
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: This is like gross safety that you're trying to have

614
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: like operation security for national secure whatever.

615
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 6: But so when he's talking about like using it versus

616
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 6: like he does, he just mean like group the group chat,

617
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 6: the technology of like having.

618
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: A group chat.

619
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, because that's Mike. Mike was like, yeah,

620
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: we'll definitely like get together in person. That's probably better

621
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: than like in a skiff or something good.

622
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 8: But also is there I mean obviously so I guess

623
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 8: signal is not as secure as.

624
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: You would want for government war secrets, right, But is

625
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 4: isn't more important the fact that they invited a journalist

626
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: to the chat.

627
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 8: Isn't that also part of it? But they're not really

628
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 8: addressing that part of it at all, right.

629
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: No, because they have to kind of tack onto whatever

630
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: they feel gives them the best chance of defending something

631
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: that is completely So they're.

632
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 8: Defending on the technology instead of being like, oh, he

633
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 8: pushed the wrong button and like the rust button you

634
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 8: could possibly push in that scenario.

635
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, this is it's probably good that

636
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: obviously we just played.

637
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: How do you do that clip?

638
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: Where Yeah, Trump is so like, this is so far

639
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: out of his depth. He does not have an aptitude

640
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: for technology that these people can just basically give the

641
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: excuses to Daddy and he has no clue.

642
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: So he's like, I see, I see so there, so

643
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: they're just they're tripping. Huh, Yeah, he's gonna.

644
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 6: He There's almost no chance that he hasn't at least

645
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 6: asked if he can get Barren across this.

646
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: If he's not, you know, he's like, let me check

647
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: with Uh, we're close, so we're close to this.

648
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: So Michael Waltz, right, he's doing He went on Laura

649
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: Ingram show to and just was doing, like just contradicting

650
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: himself all over. Remember it was him that created the

651
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: group and added people to it, and in most realities

652
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: that would mean the buck stops with him. But his

653
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: defense is very the nonsensical. This is him trying to

654
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: explain exactly what happened to Laura Ingram.

655
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 9: Have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name

656
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 9: and then you haven't, and then you have somebody else, Right,

657
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 9: You've got somebody else's number on someone else.

658
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: He is a loser in the group.

659
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 9: It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it

660
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 9: deliberately or or it happened in some other technical means something,

661
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 9: we're trying to figure out.

662
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: This guy just said, so of course I didn't notice

663
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: this loser that you added, right, this is the guy

664
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: who added who added him?

665
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 7: So of course I didn't see this loser.

666
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: He tricked me into doing that.

667
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 8: I also have to say, I've never had somebody's number

668
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 8: on somebody else's name in my contacts on my phone,

669
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 8: just just the base level of that. That's never happened

670
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 8: to me. How is that happened? How is that comment?

671
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Speaker 2: But dude, he's like a loser, you know what I mean?

672
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: And then did you see at the end he's like, Oh,

673
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you probably snuck into the group

674
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: or something. What do you fucking fucking smeegel ass Lodge and.

675
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: The Tricksy Hobbits is group chat? Dude, you fucking added him?

676
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 7: Like early podcast ads, we talked about this.

677
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 6: When we hosted the podcast words, but like when they

678
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 6: were like the post office fucking sucks?

679
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: Am I right?

680
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 6: And everyone had to be like yeah, like they almost

681
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 6: brainwashed me into being like the post office is the

682
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 6: worst place in the world.

683
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 7: We all agree on that, right, Like they're just trying.

684
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 6: They're just trying to like make it seem like we're

685
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 6: all constantly sitting in group exexts and like adding people

686
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 6: who we don't know, like this happens all the time

687
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 6: to all of us. It's like, no, this is you

688
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 6: can keep trying, but like this is not a problem

689
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 6: that anyone has really run into the work, right.

690
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: Dude, The excuses get worse.

691
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: So then he's trying to be like, I don't know,

692
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: like we gotta we gotta get to the bottom, like

693
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: they're doing the hot dog car sketch right now, and

694
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: he's like, well, what the fuck happened? So this is

695
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: him going on about, no, we got we're gonna really

696
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: look into this. You've got some smart people looking into this.

697
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: We're going to get to the bottom of it.

698
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 9: We have. I just talked to Elon on the way here.

699
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 9: We've got the best technical minds looking at how this happened.

700
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 9: But I can tell you added to him or I

701
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 9: don't know this guy. I know him by his horrible reputation,

702
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 9: and he really is a bottom scum of journalists. And

703
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 9: I know him in the sense that he hates the president,

704
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 9: but I don't text him.

705
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: He went on my phone. He he wasn't on my phone.

706
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: He was having to diet coke Man and he was

707
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: just bothering me.

708
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: Like this guy, he goes this guy from by the way, technical,

709
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't know you fill your Baltimore, Like we.

710
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: Need the technical minds looking into this. Your fucking fingers.

711
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: Well, why do you think this guy was invited? How?

712
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: How what do you think happened?

713
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: He's from Boynton Beach, Florida. Jack, Yeah, wanting on I

714
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: don't know because he want on his phone.

715
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 6: So it's kind of crazy how you get in the

716
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 6: group chat when he won?

717
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: He on there, like I think I think the most

718
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: the easy response here is that he is so bumbling

719
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: and in nept that he doesn't even have the wherewithal

720
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: to double check who's on a fucking group thread when

721
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about yeah, like a Millie Terry attack in Yemen.

722
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: That seems like the easiest. Other people like maybe he

723
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: was trying to leak it to the Atlantic or something.

724
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 7: Leak what Yeah, four d Chess of the completely.

725
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: Called classic leaking to the press as that one guy

726
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: did his Mullaney bit the other day.

727
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 6: Although now it sounds like the Joker's it's hard to

728
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Speaker 6: do a good mulleny.

729
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Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, without crossing it over into Keith

730
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Ledger's joker.

731
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Speaker 4: John John Mullaney does a great millenniy He one of.

732
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Speaker 2: My favorite mulleniyo John.

733
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Speaker 1: But yeah, so right now, I think Trump said it again.

734
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: He announced that Michael Waltz will be leading the investigation

735
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: in what happened with his own fucking hands.

736
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Speaker 6: I mean it does like maybe somebody else added him

737
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Speaker 6: thinking they were adding somebody else.

738
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Speaker 7: I don't like. That is a question.

739
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Speaker 6: Does he have a name that is similar to somebody

740
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Speaker 6: who would like plausibly have been there, or like a number.

741
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Goldberg I think in the article said it may

742
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: have been this other person with the same but they

743
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: don't have the same name.

744
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 8: Maybe he was like, maybe he's like, okay, these are

745
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 8: the people to add, these are people to definitely not add,

746
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 8: and then he accidentally added them from.

747
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

748
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's very very very very sad and dumb,

749
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: and it says and I think that's the thing at

750
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: this point, it's just so clear that these people don't

751
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: know what they're doing at all, like to the point

752
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: where they can't even they're just using signal for their

753
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: for all this shit, like they work at some technogy.

754
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Speaker 8: Has anyone in the military commented on this, because I

755
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 8: feel like people who are like putting their lives on

756
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 8: the line, you know, in the line of duty, It's

757
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 8: like they're the people I feel them should be the

758
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 8: most mad about this, because it's like you're looking at

759
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 8: our lives essentially as like a game that you're playing

760
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 8: on this group chat and you're inviting journals. It just

761
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 8: feels very disrespectful to like people who are taking this

762
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 8: seriously and are actually like out there fighting for our

763
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Speaker 8: country or something. I don't know, it's out like a

764
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 8: hardcore military supporter, but it feels a little bit like

765
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 8: disrespectful to that.

766
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That is the take of everybody

767
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: who's just like, are.

768
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: These people like serious, right, right?

769
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: You're already asking poor people to enlist in the army

770
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: to do violence on behalf of the American empire, and

771
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: then time that you're not even a fucking try and

772
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: keep them safe.

773
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

774
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: But he's he's come back. Michael Watson, like Hexath and Night.

775
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: We're veterans. We get We very much understand what I

776
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: say here. We just don't know how to fucking text

777
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: or none of that.

778
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 6: I mean, military people are also some of the best

779
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 6: at not talking about superior.

780
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: People outside like it's all retired people who are Like

781
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: some person said that the details that were like in

782
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: the in that like that signal thread were like rise

783
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: to like being court martialed in any normal instance.

784
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Speaker 6: Well, that's has a person as high up as the

785
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 6: vice president ever like openly like that's against international law.

786
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 6: Isn't it to be like he just walked into his

787
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 6: girlfriend's house and then we leveled the house. Excellent, Like

788
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 6: that feels, Jack, feels like a killing of an innocent person.

789
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: Jack, what are you talking about? This is America? Man,

790
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 2: We don't I know you, but like.

791
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: Watch to collapse on innocent people and the media can't

792
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: be fucking bothered one, I know, I know.

793
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 6: But have we technically ever had them, Like yes, we've

794
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 6: seen like the wiki leak stuff where like people like

795
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 6: entire wedding party parties are bombed and they're like Roger,

796
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 6: but you don't have like Biden on the on wax

797
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 6: being like hell yeah, brother, yeah, like like say excellent

798
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 6: as a response to like he just walked into his

799
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 6: girlfriend's place.

800
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: Now it's leveled and excellent.

801
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 6: Just feels like a new level of like you just

802
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 6: did you just did it.

803
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 8: That's you're the that's not a slow down, slow down,

804
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 8: you're turning me on.

805
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's easy easy. Don't touch it, don't touch it,

806
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: don't don't touch it.

807
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: Just don't move, don't move, don't move, don't fuck fuck

808
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: up fuck okay, all.

809
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: Right, just give me like twenty minutes.

810
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 6: Oh ship, all right, so we'll see see where he

811
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 6: gets on to the bottom of his own fuck up,

812
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 6: my own astating.

813
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they have.

814
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: I mean they have started to be like it's it

815
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: must have been a low level official like there they've

816
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: there's been mention of some other person.

817
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: I'm either away at the end of the day. There's

818
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: people who have an aptitude for computers and there's people

819
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 4: who don't.

820
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 6: Yep, And if Baron's not in charge of it, I

821
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 6: can't be blamed. You know, you're playing with fire if

822
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 6: you're not running everything back.

823
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: Baron, even an.

824
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: I message you know it'll be like Jack added Andrew

825
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: to the group chat at eight thirty nine. People, I

826
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: mean be like, okay, you know I'm talking about that

827
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: sort of thing.

828
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, my parents, Yeah exactly.

829
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 8: I've definitely had friends who have like been talking about

830
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 8: someone and they accidentally texted to that person, you know.

831
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 7: To that person the thing. I always hear about that thing.

832
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 6: I always hear about someone saying something about someone and

833
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 6: there's like a weird like wiring in the brain where

834
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 6: you just like send it to that person. I've heard

835
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 6: multiple people, but I've never heard somebody just randomly adding

836
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 6: the wrong number to a massive thing. But except for

837
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 6: on Fox News over the past three days, where they're

838
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 6: all like.

839
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: I do this all the time.

840
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like Jesse Waters is like hypothetical of like we've

841
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 6: all added grandma to the bachelor party thing and suddenly

842
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 6: she's getting twelve consecutive dick pics because that's what we

843
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 6: do with our bachelor party.

844
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Speaker 2: Bros.

845
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 8: Just watched the movie from like ten years ago with

846
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 8: that exact plot point of texting the wrong person.

847
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 4: When you're talking shit about them. It was The Intern,

848
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 4: the movie with Vince Faught.

849
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 6: No, no, yeah, The Intern is Robert de Niro, Haway

850
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 6: and Hathaway.

851
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 8: So Anne Hathaway is talking about her mom and she

852
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 8: accidentally emails it to her mom, and then Robert de

853
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 8: Niro has to break into her mom's house and get

854
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 8: into her computer and delete the email.

855
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 4: So this is something we covered fifteen years ago. And

856
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 4: in the de Niro movie, Yeah, you can't be inviting

857
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: the wrong person to the group check.

858
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and that's probably their favorite movie her mind.

859
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: An Hathaway's mom does come back from Robert de Niro

860
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: has to kill her.

861
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it turned into a different kind of movie.

862
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: Kind of fucked up.

863
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 6: The deleted scenes from both that movie and uh, Meet

864
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 6: the Parents, just the bodies that he's leaving in his way.

865
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 4: Adam Devine has to help Robert.

866
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Process of course.

867
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll

868
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 6: be back.

869
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 7: And we're back, and.

870
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Speaker 6: There's a new trick that you can do with your phone.

871
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 6: You take a photo, turn it into it makes it

872
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 6: look like it's animated by a studio ghibli and it's fun.

873
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 6: There we go, moving on. Oh wait a second, it's from.

874
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: Open Ai that or at least they're involved, and they're.

875
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 7: Spike in the football.

876
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 6: In this one, there's a post from Sam Altman that

877
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Speaker 6: says this was a real labor of love from at

878
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 6: a bunch of names. Gaby Goo, congrats Gabe, excellent work.

879
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 6: Here's what we generated during the live stream. And then

880
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 6: it's a anime looking image of the three people who

881
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 6: were on the live stream talking about this new technology

882
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 6: that they're introducing, and the main focus is giving the

883
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 6: AOK sign and he has four fingers. He's only got

884
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 6: four fingers on his hand.

885
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: Which is doubly offensive to Japanese audiences. You know, they

886
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: had to the Simpsons UH to not offend people with

887
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: the with the missing digit. So I love that there.

888
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: It's the AI is offensive on so many levels, and

889
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: I love that, Like going back to Hayamiyazaki's just initial

890
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: brush with AI animation and how it fucking destroyed his soul.

891
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: I think it all fits together very perfectly.

892
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, So first of all, swish on that one, Sam Altman.

893
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 6: Sam Altman, we've talked about before. UH has been for

894
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 6: like a decade now, like all the all the fears around, like.

895
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: AI is going to actually kill us, it's gonna be

896
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: like Terminator.

897
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 7: He's been like really a big part of that.

898
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 6: Like he there's a New Yorker interview in the early

899
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 6: days of like A where he's he tells the person

900
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 6: who's interviewing him that he keeps a poison capsule on

901
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 6: him in case the robots like takeover. He's dead serious,

902
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 6: and the journals was like, damn, Doug, that's that's crazy

903
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 6: for real. And yeah, he's just completely full of shit.

904
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 6: He's not like he's not a coder or anything like that,

905
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 6: Like he just is somebody with a tech prid.

906
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: But he's got ideas. Man. He recently just announced that fucking.

907
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: Stargate like super Center, like a five half trillion dollar

908
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: thing in Texas that's gonna run open Ais just Ai models.

909
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: It's very very freaky and earth destroying.

910
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: But just this quote from Hayao Miyazaki, the guy who

911
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: is the head, like the person who gave us studio

912
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: GHIBLI that people so.

913
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: Want, like are so into recreating.

914
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: He was shown a video of like an AI animation

915
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: and he this is his response. It was just like

916
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: a fucked up, weird animation.

917
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: That was quote. It uses his head like a leg.

918
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: The movement is so creepy and could be applied to

919
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: a zombie video game, like it was just a weird thing.

920
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 6: This was me a person presenting it was like, so,

921
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 6: they're like, it looks like dancing. It's moving by its head.

922
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 6: It doesn't doesn't feel any pain and has no concept

923
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 6: of protecting its head.

924
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: These its head like a leg like.

925
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 6: They're they're really trying to They're like, there's some strange

926
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 6: beauty in this Ai animation of this, like zombie body

927
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 6: that's like moving in a really unnatural way.

928
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: The video of it is wild because the guy's face

929
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: changes when Miyazaki starts being like, this is disturbing. This

930
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: is what he said quote every morning, not in recent days.

931
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: I see my friend who has a disability. It's so

932
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: hard for him just to do a high five. His

933
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: arm with stiff muscle can't reach out to my hand. Now,

934
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: thinking of him, I can't watch this stuff and find

935
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: it interesting. Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what

936
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: pain is. I am utterly disgusted. If you really want

937
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it.

938
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: But I would never wish to incorporate this technology into

939
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: my work at I strongly feel that this is an

940
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: insult to life itself. I feel like we are nearing

941
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: the end of times. We humans are losing faith in ourselves.

942
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 6: That is, we humans are losing faith in ourselves. Is

943
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 6: a great description of like I feel like a thing

944
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 6: that we're seeing just across the board, right, just people

945
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 6: being like, I don't know, our new book is let them.

946
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 6: That's like the new popular Oprah like pop psych idea

947
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 6: where it's like you just let people kind of do

948
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 6: whatever they want, no big guilty, you just don't. Don't

949
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 6: let it mess with your happiness. Let them, you know.

950
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: So what just ignore the fuckery?

951
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: Is that?

952
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, let them let them do that.

953
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 6: That's just call it, because otherwise it's gonna it's gonna

954
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 6: mess with your happiness, Miles, mess with your happiness.

955
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 7: Let them do whatever they want.

956
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: Mel Robbins, my dear child, you should just call them

957
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: the book. Ignore the fuckery, but.

958
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 6: You ignore that voice in your head that says this

959
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 6: is bad, it is bad, this.

960
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 2: Is all terrible.

961
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 4: The end of morality should be the name of that book.

962
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 9: I know.

963
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 8: And I just was in you know, I just was

964
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 8: traveling in Japan and I went to the studio ghibli

965
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 8: Museum and it's like, it's it's interesting that this technology

966
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 8: is being used to emulate his work because it's like,

967
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 8: as you said, he has such strong opinions about it.

968
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 8: But also like the museum itself is really really magical

969
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 8: and they don't allow any photos inside, and it's clearly

970
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 8: a company that like prides itself on like magical experiences

971
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 8: that can't be translated to technology.

972
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 4: Like the entire museum is like no photos.

973
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 8: Like it's very strict about that, and I think it's

974
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 8: just so sad to see that, you know, realm of

975
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 8: art being emulated in this way that is so soulless

976
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 8: and discibing.

977
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, like you know, I've been to the

978
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: Ghibli Museum too, and there's like that one room where

979
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: you see sort of Miyazaki's case studies on things like

980
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: how he would try and draw horse running or these

981
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: other things, and like you're like, damn, like there's a

982
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: reason why these animated things were so different in good

983
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: like there was such an emphasis on developing like what

984
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: this animation style could be. And I'm just like that

985
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: quote really just sticks with me when he says that

986
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: we have lost humanity, has lost faith in itself, because

987
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: it just feels like we were completely devaluing skills now,

988
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: and AI is just the latest tool in like circumventing,

989
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: like just truly the art of honing a skill, no

990
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: matter what it is, but in this very narrow context,

991
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: like like illustration or doing certain kinds of art, where

992
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: the repetition of it helps, like that is part of

993
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: the experience, and a lot of people like, I'm not

994
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: really interested that. I just want to make, you know,

995
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: I want to make fucking weird memes that look like

996
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: gibbli and.

997
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 8: There the AI stuff is really dark because I people

998
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 8: I really respect are like, I don't feel like many

999
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 8: people have a strong moral framework around AI, Like.

1000
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: People have opinions about it, but they still use it.

1001
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 8: Like I've personally never used chat GPT, and I never

1002
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 8: I don't want to ever use it because I'm just like,

1003
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 8: all I read is negative stuff about both it being

1004
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 8: wrong in a lot of ways and giving you incorrect

1005
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 8: information and bad for the environment and all these things.

1006
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 8: But then I have a lot of people who are

1007
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 8: friends of mine who say those same things but then

1008
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 8: still use it pretty regularly. And I'm like, I think

1009
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 8: we need to like have like a almost like a

1010
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 8: you know, like a virginity ring kind of thing, you know,

1011
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 8: like with AI or I don't fuck with that at all, yeah, yeah,

1012
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 8: or something, just because I feel like people I respect

1013
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 8: are still using it, and I'm like, I thought we

1014
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 8: all agree that this is bad, but then people are

1015
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 8: and maybe they just want to be aware of it

1016
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 8: and like understand what's happening. And I kind of can

1017
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 8: respect that, but I'm just like, I'm not going to

1018
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 8: use it.

1019
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 4: I just I'm out. I don't know.

1020
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I see, I see like the time saving

1021
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: parts where like if you are in like I know

1022
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: people who do a lot of like grant proposals and things,

1023
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: and the amount of time it'll cut down to merely

1024
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: just sort of like do the labor of like articulating something.

1025
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, like you're not taking your own job

1026
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: away by doing that or whatever.

1027
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 2: But then you see other people yeah yeah yeah.

1028
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: Like again as a tool, fine if it works, but

1029
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: again that's where it's like you don't need all these

1030
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: like data centers that are going to burn the earth

1031
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: down for that kind of shit. But it's all I mean,

1032
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: I think the hype around it too is just it's it's.

1033
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 6: Getting more and more intense as a tool for people.

1034
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 6: It's being pitched as a way to replace people.

1035
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I went to a college.

1036
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 8: I did stand up at a college recently, and I

1037
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 8: asked the crowd, just like out of curiosity, like, how

1038
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 8: many if you use chet GBT regularly for to cut

1039
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 8: down on the amount of work you're supposed to do

1040
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 8: for school? Every single person raised our hands, and I'm like,

1041
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 8: and I'm like, I wonder how your parents would feel

1042
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 8: like they're all spending money, or some of them at

1043
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 8: least are spending their money to put you in college,

1044
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 8: and you're wasting that opportunity to have a chiller time,

1045
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 8: you know.

1046
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1047
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 8: It just felt like you're not going to learn as

1048
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 8: much if this resource is offloading the work and making

1049
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 8: your life so much easier.

1050
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1051
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: It just it's hard for me to accuse those kids

1052
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: of cutting corners.

1053
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: I was blacked out on, I was blacked out on

1054
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Xanax mostly college.

1055
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 8: I judging it individually, I just mean like collectively, it's

1056
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 8: a little sad that, like the sure the prize of

1057
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 8: learning is offloaded to this machine.

1058
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just like a.

1059
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 7: Lot of things that yeah, we've just.

1060
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 6: That used to be a thing that you would battle against,

1061
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 6: like the academic institutions would battle against, and I'm sure

1062
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 6: they're battling a little bit, but I feel like there's

1063
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 6: just this overall like as we've just let corporations take

1064
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 6: over as like the only force that actually like matters

1065
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 6: in the world over the past, like you know, handful

1066
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 6: of decades, like as long as I've been alive, essentially,

1067
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 6: and just like all regulation of these corporations have been

1068
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 6: you know.

1069
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 7: Thrown out the window.

1070
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 6: Now everyone is just like, well, yeah, that's okay. We

1071
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 6: could fight against it, but like that's unrealistic. We're just

1072
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 6: being like it's now like just giving up on any

1073
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 6: sort of pushback, any sort of like you know, putting

1074
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 6: things in place to stop these things that are like

1075
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 6: devaluing our lives, and like how how things are done

1076
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 6: is just viewed as like childish or idealistic or and

1077
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 6: like that just didn't used to be the case. I

1078
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 6: was listening to this episode of the podcast, the Blind

1079
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 6: Boy Podcast, and he was talking about how his favorite

1080
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 6: example of neoliberalism like being like Reaganite like neoliberalism and

1081
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 6: like you know, basically just letting everything be privatized and

1082
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 6: turned over to corporations.

1083
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 7: Is when like in the seventies it was.

1084
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 6: Illegal for companies to advertise to children, like there was

1085
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 6: just a law that put a regulation in place. And

1086
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 6: then by the time you know, the eighties rolled around,

1087
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 6: all the cartoons and shit that I watched were toy commercials.

1088
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 6: It was like Transformers and it was just like design

1089
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 6: but it was like not super offensive because like they

1090
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 6: had stories and stuff like that.

1091
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: But then like.

1092
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 6: After that first after they like make that get past

1093
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 6: that first barrier, you know, fast forward thirty years later

1094
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 6: and like my kids, like I have to like keep

1095
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 6: them off of these devices that are being pitched to

1096
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 6: them all day every day that are just like, yeah,

1097
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 6: your kid's brain is basically like profit center for us,

1098
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 6: and we've turned their lives into like a giant casino,

1099
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 6: you know. So I understand why people are just like, yeah,

1100
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 6: to push back on this stuff is silly because it's

1101
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 6: not gonna work. But like it has worked in the past.

1102
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 6: We've lost but like I don't think that like we

1103
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 6: have to lose it, Like it'll probably have to get

1104
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 6: worse before people realize that like something can be done.

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Speaker 6: But it's it is just like so cynical and like

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Speaker 6: we have had regulations in place to like keep shit

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Speaker 6: like this from ruining everybody's lives in the past. It's

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Speaker 6: just now we've just taken it for granted that corporations

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Speaker 6: will be able to do whatever the fuck they want,

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Speaker 6: and what they want to do will inevitably like make

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Speaker 6: all of our lives worse.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and it happens in so many ways too, Like

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Speaker 8: even a few years ago when these private companies were

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Speaker 8: just like, hey, we're going to completely change the info

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Speaker 8: structure of every major city by releasing thousands of scooters

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Speaker 8: all over the city that people can rent for ten

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Speaker 8: minutes at a time. And it's like no, no, like

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Speaker 8: government were even contacted of like hey is this allowed.

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Speaker 8: They were just like, hey, this is the thing now,

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Speaker 8: and it like totally changed traffic and everything. And then

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Speaker 8: eventually certain governments were like, hey, we don't want this

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Speaker 8: on our streets and this fucking stuff up. But the

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Speaker 8: company didn't ask for permission first. I'm pretty sure it

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Speaker 8: just like came in and did it. And I think

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Speaker 8: that's a perfect example of just like.

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Speaker 6: Move fast and break stee Yeah it's true, Yeah, it's really,

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Speaker 6: but that sounds.

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Speaker 4: Changes things on such a fundamental level.

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Speaker 2: And then just like the only people have to deal

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Speaker 2: with it is er doctors.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they were just like, holy shit, we have like

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Speaker 6: fifteen people in here every night from riding around on

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Speaker 6: these scooters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of broken ankles.

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Speaker 1: They're just reading this like article in the American Prospect

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Speaker 1: about the AI bubble and like what that bubble.

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Speaker 2: Pop looks like. But there's just one line.

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Speaker 1: I blew my mind to quote between vcs, big tech

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Speaker 1: and power utilities, the bill for Jenner AI comes out

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Speaker 1: to close to two trillion dollars in spending over the

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Speaker 1: next five years alone. Oh easy, Holy shit, dude, Like,

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Speaker 1: and that's the thing when you have that much sort

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Speaker 1: of institutional money saying this has to work there it's

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Speaker 1: just gonna I don't know, like, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: they solve this, because again, all this is about, well,

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Speaker 1: how does it how do we get a return on

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Speaker 1: all this money we're spending, because it can't just be

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Speaker 1: chat GPT subscriptions, Like Sam Altman is saying, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that and that's why you know we've covered that more.

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Speaker 1: People like Goldman were like Goldman Sacks is like, bro,

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Speaker 1: this shit ain't gonna fucking start making money.

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Speaker 6: Well, what are they like, what would be worth that

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Speaker 6: amount of expenditure. It would be replacing the humans so

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Speaker 6: you don't have to pay employees.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 7: That's essentially what it is.

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Speaker 6: The thing that AI used to be about, like in

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Speaker 6: philosophy in the nineties and like early two thousands, was

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Speaker 6: this idea of the singularity and like humans being replaced

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Speaker 6: by this hyper intelligence that would you know, be beyond

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Speaker 6: their scope of understanding. And I think like we've essentially

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Speaker 6: done that with capitalism, Like the corporations have replaced us,

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Speaker 6: and now they're just like trying to get rid of us.

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Speaker 6: Like that's what this is all about, is they're trying.

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Speaker 6: They're spending two trillion dollars in the hopes that this

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Speaker 6: technology will make it so they don't have to spend

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Speaker 6: money on labor anymore.

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Speaker 1: But like cause they point to like productivity, there was

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Speaker 1: another thing in that article about how they were shong

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Speaker 1: there was no real discernible productivity gains even for people

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Speaker 1: in coding that were using chat GPT, and then on

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Speaker 1: top of it, it would create like the time they

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Speaker 1: saved using it, they would it would then be recouped

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Speaker 1: in having to correct errors.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly what I tell my friends. He uses

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Speaker 4: it all the time, and I'm like, but the information

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Speaker 4: is giving you is wrong, and then you spend more

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Speaker 4: time fact checking it, and I'm like, well, how is

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Speaker 4: this saving time? If it's like you ask it what

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Speaker 4: day of the week you know is Russiashana and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be on a Tuesday, And then you

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Speaker 4: look on a calendar it's oh, actually starts on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: It's just wrong about the most basic stuff. It's crazy,

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Speaker 4: what do you It's wrong so much. It's like what

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Speaker 4: time is it in la and it's like off by

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Speaker 4: an hour.

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Speaker 2: It's just like always wrong. It's like off by like seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean. My favorite example from this past year was.

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Speaker 6: The Super Bowl ad where Google was advertising their AI technology,

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Speaker 6: and the premise of the ad was here's a cheese farmer.

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Speaker 6: He can't write for shit, He's all thumbs when it

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Speaker 6: comes to like writing copy for his product. However, you

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Speaker 6: can use Google AI to like write the copy. And

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Speaker 6: the copy that they show on the screen is like

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Speaker 6: a fact about how Gouda cheese is responsible for fifty

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Speaker 6: five percent of all cheese sales around the world, and

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Speaker 6: that is like actually something that Google a I would

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Speaker 6: have told you. But it's like obviously fake, like Jesus

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Speaker 6: close to being like the most populous, like and they

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Speaker 6: just got it from like some random fucking website that

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Speaker 6: their and that was in the Super had to fix

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Speaker 6: it before the Super Bowl, but it was in their

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl commercial that they released, and then yeah, like they.

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Speaker 2: Just it sucked.

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Speaker 6: Its job is just doing making bigger and more mind

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Speaker 6: boggling errors than we could have possibly imagined five years ago.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I had to argue with my friend yesterday about

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Speaker 8: this when we were texting about it, and I was like,

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Speaker 8: I don't use it.

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Speaker 4: It's wrong about a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 8: And he's like, well, it's like you're it's like you're

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Speaker 8: in the nineties refusing to use email even though.

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00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 4: It's clearly the future. And I said back, I said, yeah.

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Speaker 8: Only if the email rearranged all the letters after you

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Speaker 8: sent it to your friend and it was like a

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Speaker 8: complete jumbled mess, like if email was like that in

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Speaker 8: the nineties, Yeah, I wouldn't be using it doesn't work exactly.

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Speaker 8: And I'm sure this chattybec stuff will be better in

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Speaker 8: the future, but for now, I'm just like, it's wrong

1222
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Speaker 8: about stuff.

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Speaker 4: Why would I use it?

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Speaker 6: I'm not so sure it will I mean, yeah, probably,

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Speaker 6: I think they'll find better.

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Speaker 2: Uses for it.

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Speaker 6: Is probably what I'm thinking. Like, but research like fundamentally

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Speaker 6: the large language models, their whole reason for existing or

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00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 6: their whole like methodology is trying to tell you what

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Speaker 6: it thinks you want to hear.

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Speaker 8: It's not actually AI, right, It's like it's like a

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Speaker 8: box that just takes every word ever written and is like,

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Speaker 8: here's the most likely of words, right, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's the autocorrect function, and it's actually auto incorrect.

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Speaker 4: Auto concrete center, yeah yeah, auto incorrect.

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Speaker 7: Like auto crest. It does that is AI Autos talk a.

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Speaker 1: Lot about the fall of the George Foreman Empire, and

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Speaker 1: you're like the Foreman Empire.

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Speaker 6: The well, Andrew, it's been a true pleasure having Where

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Speaker 6: can people find you? Follow you, hear you all that

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Speaker 6: good stuff.

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Speaker 8: My name is Andrew Mashan M I C H A

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Speaker 8: A N. I'm on Instagram, I guess I'm on ax al.

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Speaker 4: I don't really use it.

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Speaker 8: And then I have a podcast called podcasts, but outside

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00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 8: where interview strangers on the street. We've done it for

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Speaker 8: five six years at this point. It's pretty fun. We

1248
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 8: just talked to random people. They share their stories of

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00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 8: stuff that they're going through in life, and then sometimes

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00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 8: we have celebrity guests join us to interview random strangers,

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00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 8: like we've had on Adam Scott, John Hamm, Jack Quaid, Otsco,

1252
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 8: Nick Kroll, lots of different people, and it's ultimately just

1253
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 8: chatting with random strangers and learning.

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Speaker 4: About their lives.

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Speaker 8: And we've had lots of fun conversations with different strange people.

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00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 8: And you can check that out on YouTube and podcast

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00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 8: apps and clips on social media and all that stuff.

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Speaker 7: It's a great show.

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Speaker 2: You go check it out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun.

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Speaker 2: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying

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Speaker 2: by any chance?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 8: I've only seen one episode, but I haven't seen many

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Speaker 8: people talk about it, so I feel like it's worth

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Speaker 8: mentioning that shows common side effects.

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Speaker 4: Did you guys have you seen.

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Speaker 7: All hearing a ton about this? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so it's the Did you watch Scavenger's Rain by

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Speaker 8: any chance?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but that I maybe your kid.

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Speaker 8: I don't know how old You're kids are Scavenger's Rain

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Speaker 8: I think could be enjoyable for a young kid. It's

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Speaker 8: not like adult content or anything. I think Common Side

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Speaker 8: Effects is more.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, they're just really beautiful, really trippy animated shows

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Speaker 4: made by I think the same guy, and I haven't

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00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 4: finished either show, so I'm not like a huge fan,

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00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 4: but they're really really cool.

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Speaker 8: Scavengers Rain is sci fi. It's like really inventive and

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00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 8: interesting and beautiful. And then Common Side Effects from what

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00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 8: I've seen, seems very funny and smart, and I'm excited

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Speaker 8: to get more.

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Speaker 2: Hearing great things about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I have fised him, but I would

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Speaker 4: recommend them to check them out there.

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Speaker 6: It is miles where can people find you as their workimedia?

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Speaker 1: You've been enjoyed at Miles of Gray Everywhere at mad

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Speaker 1: Boosties the podcast if you want to hear Jacket I

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Speaker 1: talk about the NBA and at four to twenty Day

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Speaker 1: Fiance where I talk about ninety day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things at Maddie is Talking dot Com

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Speaker 1: on Blue Sky said, where are y'all getting all these

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Speaker 1: bingo cards? And then another one uh past guest Franklin

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Speaker 1: Leonard at Franklin Leonard dot b skuyd do Social posted,

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Speaker 1: I just want to personally thank Pete Heg Sath for

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Speaker 1: proving my theory that when your entire personality is minorities

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Speaker 1: are incompetent, it's usually because you're more incompetent than anyone

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Speaker 1: could have imagined.

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Speaker 2: Right, So cheers and cheers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, amazing. I like to tweet by Katie Natopolis at

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Speaker 6: Katie Natapoulas on Twitter, who said, having read through the

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Speaker 6: full houthy PC small group logs, I've come to the

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Speaker 6: sad realization that I'm the jd vance of my group chats,

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Speaker 6: overly emotional, slightly unprofessional, confused by what everyone is saying

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Speaker 6: because I won't scroll up continually derail's plans with late objections.

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Speaker 4: How long is the threat is it? Like? Is it

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Speaker 4: really really long?

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Speaker 2: There's no.

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Speaker 1: I was like probably twenty pages you can go through,

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Speaker 1: because I mean they definitely took out the part they're like,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to release the names of like CIA agents,

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Speaker 1: Center undercover.

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Speaker 2: That's reckless. But yeah, everything else you can read excellent, excellent.

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Speaker 6: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian

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Speaker 6: and on Blue Sky at Jack o b the Number one.

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Speaker 6: We are on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeigeist,

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Speaker 6: and we're at the Daily Zekeeist on Instagram. You can

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Speaker 6: go to the description of the episode wherever you're listening

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Speaker 6: to this and you can find the footnote footnote where

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Speaker 6: we link off information that we talked about in today's episode.

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Speaker 6: We also link off to a song that we think

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Speaker 6: you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a song that

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Speaker 6: you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I just stumbled on this album by the artist Natalie Bergman.

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Speaker 1: The track is called keep Those Tear Drops From Falling,

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Speaker 1: and it's from like this she like self recorded this album,

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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm instantly in when I hear an artist

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Speaker 1: has like self recorded entire album, because again, I love skills.

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Speaker 2: I love people that owne skills, even for their passion

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Speaker 2: for music.

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Speaker 1: And she wrote this like sort of ep after like

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Speaker 1: a terrible tragedy with her with her father and stepmother

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Speaker 1: passing away, and like wrote this album. But this song

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Speaker 1: like has like a lightness to it even though it's

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Speaker 1: about kind of like a very dark time in her life,

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Speaker 1: and it's really chill and when you realize, like this

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Speaker 1: is self recorded, it just has like it just feels

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Speaker 1: very alive. So this is Natalie Bergman with the track

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Speaker 1: keep those Tear Drops from following.

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Speaker 2: That was the back up name for the book Let Them.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, those teardrops.

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Speaker 1: Folks catch them, they just catch them in your hands.

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Speaker 6: Uh all right, we will link off to that in

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Speaker 6: the footnotes. The daily Zeitgeis said the production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 6: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart

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Speaker 6: Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your

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Speaker 6: favorite shows.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna do it.

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Speaker 6: For us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you

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Speaker 6: what's trending, and we'll talk to you all then.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye bye