1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: I had a mental breakdown in front of my date 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: and her whole family. What should I do? This is OKOP, 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: where we bring you the craziest stories on Earth. I'm 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: Sam and John. What do you think OP should do? 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: After this crazy breakdown? I feel very sorry for you, Op. 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: That is a awful experience to have, especially on a 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: first date, first day, you're breaking down. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: Wow, that is that is pretty tough. What's the where's 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: the relationship? I'm going to look like, Well, maybe it's 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: because he loves her so much and just can't control 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: his emotions exactly right. Tears of Joy adds him to 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: his tearjar deep cut for people who saw the last 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: episode with Riley's tear jar. Every time he cries, he 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: writes a note to his future wife. There's a context, 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: big protein, bigger tears, even bigger heart, bigger heart, ladies, 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: he's single. I did not know that. Now I know 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: that is so sweet. John's tearing up right now. I 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: need a tear jar. 19 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: What but I think Op should go to his you know, 20 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: potential partner, his first date partner, and you know, I'll 21 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: be like, hey, I went through this experience. Maybe break 22 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: it down and maybe ask for what OP needs some space, support, 23 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: whatever OP needs. 24 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: I think I think Ope should go and ask for that. Yeah, 25 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: and the worst she could say is no or just 26 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: ghost you. That's true. 27 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: That's loky, way worse white ghosting, as Riley likes to say, 28 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: leaving them speech say, we left them speechless. 29 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Let's see what actually happened. So I joined a website 30 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: for dating to try to get more dates. That was 31 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: my only intent. I've been working too much for two 32 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: years at my new job. I just wanted to have 33 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: some fun. I got an email and set up a 34 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: date with this girl. It's my fifth date from the site, 35 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: and it's been fun. But this one girl was like 36 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: one of those love at first sight moments. When we 37 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: met at a restaurant. I saw her and she was perfect. 38 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Try to play cool, but I felt I could just 39 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: cut ties with all the girls I've dated and just 40 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: commit to her right there. Physically, she was everything I 41 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: could ever ask for and exactly my type. Her personality 42 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: seemed about a ten out of ten. Ope, he's in love. Yikes. 43 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: About thirty minutes into sitting down, we didn't even order 44 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: because we were just talking. The chemistry was as good 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: as it was with my first love when I was thirteen. 46 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: It was perfect, sparks were flying. I thought I was 47 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: done and ready to commit right there, take out the ring. Ope, 48 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: but but you got it. But then she tells me 49 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: to forget about ordering food. Let's go somewhere else. 50 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 2: Oh your horses, that's a good butt, followed my baby 51 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: by maybe another good butt. 52 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: Oh there we go, double butt cheeked up, and she 53 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: says she has this idea. She won't say much, and 54 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: I like surprises, so I didn't ask much. We jumped 55 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: in my car and drove to this restaurant about twenty 56 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: minutes away, kind of out of town. I have a 57 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: spontaneous trip story after this story. I'm sure you have many. 58 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: It was halfway up a mountain near ski resort. I'm 59 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: familiar with the area, so no big deal. We walk 60 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: in and it's her entire family celebrating her aunt's birthday. 61 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: There was only family and a lot of it, about 62 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: forty people. She introduces me and everybody, and they were 63 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: all happy to meet me and really nice. Everybody also 64 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: asked her stuff like is this the guy? The guy? 65 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: Is this your date? Is this the one? All of 66 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, I wasn't so cool and relaxed. I felt 67 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: heavy pressure to be on my best behavior. It was 68 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: high pressure to the third degree, which is fair because, 69 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: like I mean, meeting all of someone's family forty family 70 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: members on the first day, the first day, not even 71 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, like an hour in. 72 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: But everybody was so nice, so that helped. We sat 73 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: down and I started being questioned by her older sister, 74 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: her aunt, and another lady that I forgot her relation 75 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: to my date. The mom started kind of defending me 76 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: and telling them the back off and let me eat, 77 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: but the interrogation continued. After I don't know how long, 78 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: they turned to my date and jokingly said, we approve. 79 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Then I was able to kind of get my bearings 80 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: about me for a minute. But let's pause right here. Okay, 81 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: is this a red flag where a first date takes 82 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: you to meet their extended family for a birthday basically 83 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: immediately after you will have met you all met. 84 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: I'm very curious to hear what people have to stay 85 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: in the comments. Mine might be maybe a little contrary 86 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: to what you're all thinking. I don't necessarily think so, 87 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: because I think that she is the spontaneous, fun, adventurous 88 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: type and maybe her you know, slightly sporadic brain, which 89 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: is like, oh my gosh, what a crazy thing. If 90 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: we had our first day with forty of my family 91 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: members at a family union, a family party or whatever, 92 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: and she maybe didn't think all the way through of like, 93 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: maybe this is the most nerve racking possible experience to 94 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: bring a first date into a possible innocent mistake born 95 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: out of. 96 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: A desire to be spontaneous. Desire to be spontaneous, but 97 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: also it could be a good like filter if this 98 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: is something that you're not down with, maybe you're not 99 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: a right match if you're super spontaneous. Like what my 100 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: one of my first dates with an ex girlfriend was 101 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: we snuck into the Democratic National Convention and stole Pete 102 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: Bouda Jesu's notes which I found in the move by 103 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: the way, I haven't and it has like all these 104 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: notes about like homelessness and like new deal read New Deal, 105 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: stuff like that. 106 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: But she was like down and we like hopped this 107 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: fence and we all like you know, hung out together 108 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: there and so that was like a great litmus test 109 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: of is this person going to be adventurous? 110 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: So maybe that's are. 111 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: You willing to break into the Democratic National Convention. If 112 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: not it, well let's see where this story keeps going. 113 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: So I was totally off my balance all night, just tense. 114 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: I was afraid the back of my shirt would get 115 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: that big wet spot because I felt sweat on my back. 116 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: So the sister brings her cute little girl and lets 117 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: me hold her, and she and my date started taking 118 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: pictures of me holding her and somebody else's baby boy 119 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: as well. I started to feel like the tone of 120 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: it was all that like were just a couple. I 121 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: kind of felt like I was married to her, and 122 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: these nice people were my in law. My god man's 123 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: entire life is flashing before his eyes. After a couple 124 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: of hours, probably closer to three hours, everybody was kind 125 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: of tiring out and everything began to wind down. Keep 126 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: in mind, her car is still at the other restaurant 127 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: down the hill. Then her dad suddenly asked me, jokingly, 128 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: of course, what my intentions are with his daughter, though 129 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: I can't remember how he phrased the question. Everybody looked 130 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: at the tape and looked at me, which is about 131 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: half the people there, twenty people eyeing you down. I 132 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: guess I was exhausted from all the questioning. I was 133 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: questioned by multiple people multiple times, and the question just 134 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: caused too much pressure and I kind of lost it. 135 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: He asked the question. I looked across the table at 136 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: her and she told her dad to stop it. Her 137 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: dad smiles and jokingly says that he'd really like to 138 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: hear my response, and her uncle, I think, also said 139 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: he'd like to know in a joking tone. I looked 140 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: at my date and said, can I talk to you 141 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: alone for a minute, which her dad laughs loudly and 142 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 2: says I made him nervous. 143 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: They are grilling this man. So everybody's laughing, and I 144 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: guess it was a big joke. And then I said 145 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: to my date again, hey, can I talk to you 146 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: alone for a minute. I set up in place kind 147 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: of It was one of those long bench seats, and 148 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't put it back because other people were sitting 149 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: on it. Then her sister, I think, because OPI doesn't 150 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: know who all these people are, because he's just been 151 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: plunged into this group of forty people. Her sister says, oh, 152 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: there are no secrets in this family. Speak your mind. 153 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god. People then laugh again and everybody starts 154 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: making jokes about not having secrets, and this man who 155 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: married into this family somehow tells me that he remembers 156 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: being in my place, and he says, let me give 157 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: you some advice. The best thing to do right now 158 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: is speak your mind and be honest. Then the others 159 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: join in an echo with the same sentiment, all jokingly, 160 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: I think. So I look at my date and she 161 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: says something like, you can tell me anything here. We're 162 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: all family. 163 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: This is get out, Like what is happening right now? 164 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: This feels like a fever dream. 165 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm reading this and I feel like I'm hot in 166 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: like the make tricks or like a fucking thought loop. Right. 167 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: She also was thinking I was joking, but I had 168 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: started to lose my ability to tell when people were 169 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: joking and when they were serious. So the dad says, wait, 170 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten an answer to my question. The dad reappeared, 171 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: so I finally speak directly to the dad and say 172 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to discuss that with her first, but regretfully 173 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: as I said it, so her dad says, I asked 174 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: you first, Ah want to know. No. I turned to 175 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: my date and she says something like, go ahead, you 176 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: can tell me I'm a big girl. I can handle it. Yeah, 177 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm like on the edge of my seat right now. 178 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what to think. What would 179 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: you do in this situation? Would I would be I 180 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: think I would actually I think I would maybe be okay, 181 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: But at this point reading this, I feel like I'm caught, 182 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: like I'm like confused almost. Yeah, by the rabbid fire question. 183 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: I think if the initial thing I would have, you know, 184 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: cracked a joke back, yeah, you know, like I would 185 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: test the vibes. You know, I probably wouldn't be like, oh, 186 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: I'm trying to bang your daughter or something. Probably probably 187 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: wouldn't wouldn't go back that because. 188 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: They're like really really like you know. 189 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: Joky and whatnot, so that you would say I'm trying 190 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: to bang your daughter. No, I'm saying I wouldn't say 191 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that unless I 192 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: was like detecting eleven out of ten, like like humorous vibes. 193 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: I don't think I would ever say that. Yeah, I 194 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: don't think I would ever say what I want I'm 195 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: talking about. 196 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: But I think I will say that he's trying to 197 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: bang your daughter. If you meet So I don't know 198 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: why I said that fathers hide your daughters. 199 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: I regrett previse statements, but no, I think I would 200 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: have just like said some stupid little joke like that back. 201 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: But if I'm at where OPI is at now. 202 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: Which seems like the brink of a panic attack, which 203 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: is the brink of a panic attack, I might just. 204 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Be like I might have to say, like I've been 205 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: in spaces like this, like what do you do, I 206 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: need a minute, I'll be right back, or something. I 207 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: don't know, it's exactly what I did. Yeah, I was 208 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: at a comedy club and like super high, and I 209 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: was with my friend Kobe, and I was just like 210 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: too high to handle it, and I'm like I gotta go, 211 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: and I dipped and then I came back. 212 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: I've been too high to handle things before. So I'm 213 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: a big fan of that, big fan, big fan. 214 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: So I said okay and sat down, then took a 215 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,479 Speaker 1: couple of breaths while her dad kind of quieted everybody, 216 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: and I started with I think I made a huge mistake. 217 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: It all spiraled down from there. I said harsh things 218 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: like I felt like I was having a bad dream 219 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: where I was suddenly married I questioned her intentions and 220 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: bringing me there. I said stuff like what were you thinking? Yes, 221 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: I like you, but I just met you, and right 222 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: now I know your aunt, I pointed at her sitting 223 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: next to me, better than I know you. I think 224 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: she was humiliated, but I couldn't stop. The more I spoke, 225 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: the more bad stuff came out. Total effing tailspin. I said, 226 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: I want to find someone special, but I don't want 227 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: to skip the first twenty nine dates and skip to 228 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: date thirty, which is what i'd done that night. 229 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: WHOA, oh my god, yit can op recover or has 230 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: he pressed the button? 231 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: I'm blown up any chance of a future with this 232 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: woman and family. I mean, on one hand, like, Loki, 233 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: what do you expect when you like, when you take 234 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: a joke this far, it's like it's not funny anymore, 235 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: like like the first time, it's like, oh, what are 236 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: your intentions with my dog? Like okay, whatever? Like, but 237 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: maybe he's serious dad jokes. Maybe he's using the joke 238 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: to be serious. And maybe all of them are doing 239 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: that because I mean, they are pressing this man, pressing 240 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: this man. I think, you know what's funny is I 241 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: think he could come back with the other family members. 242 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if he could come back with the date, 243 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, I feel like the 244 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: other family always like, ah man, we were grilling this 245 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: guy so hard. But the date was kind of the 246 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: one that was like being embarrassed and you know. 247 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: And also I think this was mentioned by op before, 248 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: but this seems like her plan the entire time, because 249 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: she knew that this giant family gathering for her aunt 250 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: was happening, and she had the date near the family gathering. 251 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: You want to hear my conspiracy theory, what which we 252 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: should also maybe make a segment that she, you know, 253 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: is very selective in her dating and plans giant family 254 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: get togethers in order to spontaneously bring her dates to 255 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 2: the family to vet them and go through this insane 256 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: grilling process instantly. It's a little out there. 257 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: Oh, I could see it. I could see possible. Let 258 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: us know if you believe the conspiracy. But I believe 259 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: the conspiracy and the comments if you do, but let's 260 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: keep going. Yeah, the people started interrupting and chiming in 261 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: and suggesting that she and I slow down and have 262 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: a real first date. I wasn't having it. I was 263 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: out of control. I said, no, it's too late for that. 264 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: I feel robbed here. I wanted to meet this girl, 265 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: get to know her, date her, and maybe fall for her. 266 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: But now it's like we're engaged. The whole family is here, 267 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 4: and there are all these expectations. We skipped the getting 268 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 4: to know each other and the dating part. So I 269 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: feel robbed. Oh my god, I sell it, guys, you 270 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 4: sold it, and the emmy goes too. 271 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: Then I said, yes, another thing I regret, if not 272 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: already wasn't enough, which this is rough because, like he 273 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: literally said, this was his dream girl physically and emotionally. Also, 274 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: you know this is going to be the worst thing 275 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: he's about to say. I said that it is a 276 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: hw red flag that I asked for a minute alone 277 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: with you to talk and this is what I got instead. 278 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: I added something like, you're all great in a great family, 279 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: but the lack of certain boundaries is a huge red 280 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: flag for me. I would never let my relationship become 281 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: family business. 282 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: There's more. Okay, Okay, there's a lot more. There's a 283 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: lot more that I want to ask to you, John. 284 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: I want to ask for the people in the comments 285 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: taking a little pit stop here, do you think what 286 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: Op's saying right now is warranted? 287 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: Like is he being too harsh? 288 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 5: One? 289 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: I would probably not say this the first day, you know, 290 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: I guess unless I'm in a spiraling downward trend of panic. 291 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: So I'll put that caveat and asterisk on that. But 292 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: I think maybe the panic is maybe leading to a 293 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: bit of an overreaction. But it's this is a insane scenario, 294 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: and I mean, I think the family is the a holes. 295 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Here for sure. Do you think OP is the ahole 296 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: at all? What do you think, big Protein? 297 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 6: I mean, I do think he's overreacting. Personally, if she 298 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 6: was won My dream Girl too, yeah, it was already 299 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 6: a ten out of ten. I would just muscle through 300 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 6: this and be like, hey, no, it's kind of awkward, 301 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 6: but we're it's about to wind down and get over 302 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 6: with and then you can have that conversation later. 303 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: But I do think like he could. 304 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 6: I mean, I know he's underneath a ton of stress 305 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 6: and this is crazy, but I do think he is overreacting. 306 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: I empathize with Op. Yes, it sounds like he's in 307 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: like at a little bit of a small panic attack. Yes, 308 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: would I do this personally? 309 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: No? 310 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, like Riley said, I would probably wait 311 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: till after and probably say a lot of the same things. 312 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: But it kind of in like a one on one 313 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: type of vibe. All right, let's keep going. 314 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: So my date interrupts me at this point and says, okay, 315 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: so let's talk in private, let's go outside and talk. 316 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I didn't give you that minute. Let's go 317 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: outside and talk privately. I'll give you all night. 318 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: I am loost, but I guess that's a good response. 319 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: It's a good response. Yeah. 320 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: The weird ending is i'll give you all night. Yeah, right, 321 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: also in front of the whole family. 322 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, because like you could also read that is like, 323 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: let's go outside and talk privately. I'll give you all night. 324 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: That's how I'm reading it, but I don't think that's 325 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: how she said it. She was visibly shaken, and I 326 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: could tell tears were inevitable. I sit up again, and 327 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: realizing that I insulted all of them, I just quietly 328 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: walked out. I felt really bad because they were all 329 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: nice and had nothing but the best intentions for me. 330 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: They love her, and they were literally telling me that 331 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: I was good enough, which should have been a compliment, 332 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: but I somehow took it the wrong way and spat 333 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: in their face. I didn't even drink and there is 334 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: an edit. We walked out and I let her have 335 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: it again. I feel like, now, Op, he's maybe taking 336 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: a little too far. She's now sobbing uncontrollably. She apologized 337 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: and pretty much begged for us to start over, and 338 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: I told her I wasn't into it, and then I 339 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: left her there. Wow. I drove home and couldn't help 340 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: wonder if I overreacted. I couldn't sleep, and I woke 341 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: up this morning feeling like I probably did overreact. And 342 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: now I feel like shit, but it's done. I can't 343 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: do it. And let me ask this more clearly. Should 344 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: I call her and apologize for humiliating her and insulting 345 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: her family or should I just move on? Or should 346 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: I wait and see if she calls and then apologize then? 347 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: So I'm in opis said it best? What do you 348 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: think boys. 349 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: Call and apologize yourself now? Because why wait for Like? 350 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: I think you are correct in thinking that you know 351 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: there should be an apology, So like, why wait for. 352 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Them to call you? 353 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 6: Like? 354 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: That's that's that's the opposite point of an apology. 355 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: Let me. Let me ask you this. If this is 356 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: a correct statement, If you think you should apologize, you 357 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: should do it as quickly as possible. Yeah. Question, is 358 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: there such thing as needing to apologize to someone's face? 359 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: Is there such a thing as needing to apologize to 360 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: someone's face? Yes, because as in like versus like over text. 361 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah so like, So what I just said is, if 362 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: you think you should apologize, you should apologize as quickly 363 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: as possible. Usually the queerest way to get to someone 364 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: is to buy text or buy phone call. But are 365 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: there situations, maybe like this one, where he should wait, 366 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: get to talk to her in person, and then apologize totally. 367 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: So you think this deserves an imperson apology? 368 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: No, no, No, I think a phone call is good 369 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: because because you could you could call. If it goes 370 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: to voice mooie, you could be like, hey, I wanted 371 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: to personally apologize to you last night. I would you know, 372 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: if you're open to it, I would love to talk 373 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: with you and like give you like a true good apology, 374 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: you know, hopefully try to make amends and make it 375 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: up to you. 376 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: That still feels personal and it goes towards an even 377 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: more deeper apology by having it in person. Exactly. 378 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: It's like the pre apology, pre apology. Yeah, exactly, there 379 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: is more. Oh god, update this is a few weeks later. 380 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: I just want to clear something up. My date never 381 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: had a profile on the dating site. She was browsing 382 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: through with her friend who has a profile, and they 383 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: were looking for a date for her friend. It was 384 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: the friend who originally messaged me to set up with 385 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: my dates. Also, I deleted my profile. I'm totally done 386 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: with online dating. I've been in this city for two 387 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: years now, and I'm just going to go out and 388 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: meet people in the old fashioned way. It just feels 389 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: less risky somehow. I know this is going to disappoint 390 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: many of you, but I decided to speak with her. 391 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: I bet you. The comments on Reddit were like, screw 392 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: the family, screw her, how dare she put you in 393 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: that situation? Come on, guys, come on. Maybe some of 394 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: the okop fam feel that way too, But yeah, I 395 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: don't necessarily agree. 396 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: I think you know, you look, the family did put 397 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 2: a lot a lot of pressure, and it was just 398 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: a crazy situation to be in. I think that the 399 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 2: big moment is when OPI kept going one on one 400 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: while she was crying that to me is the big thing. 401 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. The very day I posted here, it 402 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: was the day immediately after our date. That same evening, 403 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: she called me and I didn't answer because I was 404 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: in the shower. So she sent me a text that said, 405 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: do you hate me too much to talk to me? 406 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: I texted back, I don't hate you. She responded, can 407 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: I call you? I texted yes, So she called and 408 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: immediately went into full apology damage control mode. I told 409 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: her that it was okay, that I was already over 410 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: it and moved on. She asked if there was anything 411 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: in any way we could meet because there were some 412 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: things she wanted to say in person, and she wanted 413 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: for us to part with a handshake and all of that, 414 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: which kind of sounds exactly what we'd said before. 415 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: But from her perspective, not from he's perspective. 416 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: She's doing the apology because she is. She's crushing it. 417 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: It kind of sounded like she needed closure. So I 418 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: agreed to meet her downtown the following Tuesday. Not a date, 419 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: no lunch, no coffee. We just met at a park. 420 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: We met and I knew she was still the one. 421 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: She told me she loves me and we decided to 422 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: try it again. We went on three dates and I proposed. 423 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 5: She said yes, ah wow, wow, that's crazy. 424 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: Three dates. She loves you after you literally cursed her 425 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: in front of her whole family. Bro. Hope he's got 426 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: that special something. Are they like Mormon? I don't know. 427 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: I know the Mormons move quick on? 428 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's there's absolutely cultures that move quick, which 429 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 2: I think that's a good, a good thing to think of, Like, oh, 430 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: maybe they belong to a culture where that's like a 431 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: pretty normal thing. 432 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: But even by Mormon standards, that's like because I went 433 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: to BYU and like it's like six to eight months 434 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: is speed? Is still like a speedy marriage? Yeah, oh 435 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: my god. We're gonna get married in December. It's November 436 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: sixteenth right now, No big wedding. We're going to fly 437 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: to Las Vegas and do it there. The plan is 438 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: to spend Christmas as a married couple. Just kidding. If 439 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: fucking got me, Ope, you really bamboozled us. You got me. 440 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: We're not easy to bamboozle. Oh but you did it. 441 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: Screw you, damn it. I'm not that effing crazy. Hopefully 442 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: you're still reading the rest of the update continues on 443 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: the next paragraph. You got us, We got us, You 444 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: got us and got us. We met at the park 445 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: just to talk. I had been so disappointed because I 446 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: felt that the spark and the butterflies in the stomach 447 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: would soon be gone, that I wouldn't like her anymore. 448 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: As soon as I saw her, this was confirmed. There 449 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: was no spark. She looked great, but I didn't, you know, 450 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: I just didn't feel it. Kind of crushed me. So 451 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: decided to listen to her as she apologized again and 452 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: told me she really liked me on the first date 453 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: and got carried away and made a very dumb decision, 454 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: as she wishes she could take back. She added that 455 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: her mom had pulled her aside when we arrived and 456 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: right from the getting told her that if she liked me, 457 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: she'd just made a big mistake by bringing me. I 458 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: guess her mom pretty much cringe when she saw us 459 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: walk in that night. Also, I should say that her 460 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: mom was the only one defending me that night and 461 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: practically pulling people off of me, like her religious uncle 462 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: who asked me if I'd been saved. Oh boy, classic, 463 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: I remember that pretty well. But I guess her mom 464 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: came down on her hard for not just having a 465 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: regular first date, but she also said that things got 466 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: even crazier after I left. Her mom wasn't there for 467 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: my rant. She had driven somebody home and came back 468 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: after I'd left. She found my date outside crying and 469 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: was told what happened her mom, I guess, stormed into 470 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: the restaurant and went off on everybody for ganging up 471 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: on me. My date says she called them a bunch 472 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: of out of control animals. The whole thing was reduced 473 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: to a finger pointing fest by everybody. Honestly, this sounds 474 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: like what would happen if I brought a first date 475 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: to my family. 476 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: Ah, yes, this is exactly what would happen. 477 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: That's funny, and my family's super nice, but they're like 478 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: nice and like obnoxious. The mom was furious. My mom 479 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: was curious because the story is that my date's dad 480 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: left them when my date was nine. He had some 481 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: sort of breakdown, became an alcoholic. He became verbally and 482 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: emotionally abusive, so the mom kicked him out to protect 483 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: the kids. He refused to get his act together and 484 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: disappeared for almost ten years. So the mom hates when 485 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: the dad acts like he has a say in the 486 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: kids lives since he was gone and just came back 487 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: lesson two years ago, but he still lives over an 488 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: hour away. A lot of the people that were there, 489 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: I guess lived far away, and they flew in for 490 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: the aunt's birthday. Supposedly most of them she only sees 491 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: once a year at the most. So the mom went 492 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: off on him especially hard and questioned his right to 493 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: have any say in his daughter's decision to date anybody. 494 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: She embarrassed him in front of everybody for having overstepped 495 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: so many boundaries. So she told me the stuff because 496 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: she wanted me to know that she was very sorry 497 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: she let her dad act all fatherly when it wasn't 498 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: the time and it wasn't his place. These were her words, 499 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: not mine. In a way, I'm glad the mom wasn't 500 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: there to witness me going off, because I think I 501 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: would have felt really bad. But come to think of it, 502 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: she probably would have stepped in and prevented it. She 503 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: asked me if there was any way we could have 504 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: had that first date again, and I said, no, there's 505 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: no way I can pretend that we are meeting for 506 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: the first time. After all of that, I know too 507 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: much about her? Which do you, though, because it sounds 508 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: like you know more about the aunt than her, which 509 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: is what you said when you were on your ramp? 510 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: Which one is it? I feel way too gone past 511 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: the first date mode right now, and maybe I need 512 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: to take a break from formal dates. Not only do 513 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: I not want to date you because of this, I 514 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: don't want to date anyone. You have made me undateable. 515 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: I did apologize to her for not telling her right 516 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: away how uncomfortable I was, and for going off on 517 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: her outside the restaurant. I told her that there were 518 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of nice people there that I felt bad about, 519 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: but that I'm sure they understand me because they seemed reasonable. 520 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: As I was talking to her, I could see how 521 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: much better she felt that I had given my own apology. 522 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: Her face went from subdued and sorry to kind of 523 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: hopeful and semi happy. She started to get back her 524 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: glow and her spunk. We started talking about other stuff, 525 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: what I do at work, my hobbies, and some other 526 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: casual stuff. The more I talked, the more she glowed. 527 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: I felt bad because she showed up looking kind of 528 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: fragile and contrite She looked very vulnerable, but by the 529 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: end of our conversation she was smiling and looking more 530 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: sure of herself. I tried to show my sense of 531 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: humor and made her laugh. Felt kind of sorry for her, 532 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: and I made it my goal to send her home smiling. 533 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: I kind of started to feel that spark again. It 534 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: felt a lot like it did at the restaurant. Her 535 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: awesomeness comes back when she's comfortable. She definitely does it 536 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: for me, and I walked her to Derek car and 537 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: we agree that another date is probably not a good 538 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: idea for right now. Fucking teasing us eyes, I'm being 539 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: edged balls the blue. She wanted to meet my yoga 540 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: teacher because she's the best of the yoga teacher. My date, 541 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: I feel weird not typing her name, has said she 542 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: needs to learn to relax more when she's stressed out. 543 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: So I met her at yoga class the following Thursday, 544 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: the seventh, and made the introduction, which almost seems like 545 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: a half date in some ways. You know, my date 546 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: has been coming to the same three yoga sessions that 547 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 1: I do weekly. We talked there. She still flirts with 548 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: me and hints that we should meet for hot tea. 549 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: Neither of us is a coffee drinker. I walk her 550 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: to her car after class because it's dark by then. 551 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: I still like her and I can tell she feels 552 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: the same way. The spark is all the way back now. 553 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: But all those comments I got here on my original 554 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: post about her being crazy are still completely lodged in 555 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: my head. They have me second guessing myself about staying 556 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: in touch with her. I'm not sure what I'm going 557 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: to do, but whatever it is, it's going to take time. 558 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: And there are some comments that I want to finish 559 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: off with, and Op gives some updates in those comments. 560 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: But John should ope get back together or at least, 561 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: at the very least go on in official second dates 562 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: with this girl. 563 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, so OPI mentioned that all of these 564 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: comments are lodged in his brain of like, all the 565 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: you know, negative things about her. Yeah, how could you take, 566 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: let's say, for example, three random dudes from the internet 567 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: that you don't know in real life and just take 568 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: their opinion and run with that exactly? 569 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: Oh, don't listen to all of them, Listen to us. 570 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: If you feel something with her, go for it, dude. 571 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying comments don't feel what you feel. 572 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 2: The comments aren't on the inside, but we feel what 573 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: you feel. So listen to us. 574 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: Listen to these three random dudes, not the other random 575 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: dudes from that. 576 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah tell yeah, but yeah, I think like, look, you're 577 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: feeling something internally, why not. 578 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: Explore and see where it goes and see how you feel. 579 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: Just try it out, at least give it a shot. 580 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: It seems like you're feeling the spark, so maybe start 581 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: a fire, get warm, cuddle up, drink some hot coco, 582 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: listen to some Christmas music or some okop yeah, best 583 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: thing to clap cheeks? Do people have done it? People 584 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: have done it, but we actually have. So here are 585 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: some relevant comments. Romney will Rie says this is effing brutal, 586 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: but almost more than she deserved. After the incident, at 587 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: least now she may know that this is inexcusably awful 588 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: to do on a first, second, or even third dates. 589 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: And Opie says, I don't think anybody deserves what she got. 590 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: It was a brutal and it was much worse than 591 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: it sounds. Man. I feel you know, some people are 592 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: perfectly comfortable being harsh and teaching other people lessons not me. 593 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: My behavior shocked me last night. I still can't believe myself. 594 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: I wish I had handled it differently. 595 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: And REQ one thirty eight says, I'm going against popular 596 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: opinion here and despite down votes, say this, how big 597 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: of a deal was it? Really? 598 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: I guess I'm in the school of thought where things 599 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: are only as big as you make them. You could 600 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: have laughed and been good natured about it. Who gives 601 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: a shit? Who thought? 602 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: What? I don't know? I am maybe a bit more 603 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: social and easy going, and from that perspective and having 604 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: trouble figuring out why you would react by lashing out 605 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: in a very mean nature, even if I'm wrong. What 606 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: kind of person makes her feel like shit about something? 607 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure she was already mortified about. She dodged a bullets, 608 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: so what she effed up in judgment? But you did 609 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: worse by showing you had no character and under pressure 610 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: are likely to explode and lash out. And op does 611 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: respond woo, what does he say? I don't think I'm 612 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: likely to explode again. I learned from that and it's 613 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: never happened before, so I'd like to think it's at 614 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: a character which I think can be true, like something. 615 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: It could be to super underpressure or just again be 616 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: in a panic. Yeah, looking back now now that sometime 617 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: has passed, Yes, it sounds like I overreacted, But I 618 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: think you're underestimating how aggressively they were coming at me, 619 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: And I don't think I could ever get that across 620 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: in writing. From what I hear, most of them felt 621 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: bad about pushing me so hard after I left. So 622 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: I feel like, in a small way, that shows that 623 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: I was in a worse situation that you can appreciate 624 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: just from reading this. On the other hand, maybe you're 625 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: totally right and that's just something I have to work 626 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: on to be safe. I'll just be careful and vigilant 627 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: of my temper and coolness under pressure. So I mean, 628 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: what do you think about that last comment, Like do 629 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: you think, actually it's not that big of a deal, 630 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: and oh, he totally overreacted and like he's kind of 631 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: the asshole even from the beginning, even before he chewed 632 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: her out outside. 633 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: I definitely I would say empathize and sympathize, Like, you know, 634 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: I can get pretty bad anxiety sometimes, so I can 635 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: understand a scenario where it like seems like it's not 636 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: as big a deal as someone makes it out to be, 637 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: which I think this is kind of a case of that. 638 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: So I empathize slash sympathize with that. But yeah, also 639 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: at the same time, I think it ultimately, you know, 640 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: it sounds like they were kind of crazy and aggressive, 641 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: but like if he played it off, you know, if 642 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: I wonder what would have happened if he had joked 643 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: back on the first like question of like, what are 644 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: your my intention my daughter, like he's like, oh, I'm 645 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: gonna marry her tomorrow. 646 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: You know, if they would have laughed and kind of 647 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: moved on. Dude, John's got that riz. Dude, He's got 648 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: that familial riz. 649 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: I've been thinking about my answer since we initially and 650 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna bang your daughter. 651 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: So don't you think I'm that good? Okay? Yeah, I 652 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: had to bake on. 653 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: That one a little bit, But yeah, I do generally 654 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: think that Ope overreacted. 655 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: And did Opie ever apologize to her? He did? He did, Okay, 656 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: so he said like during their during their park meet, 657 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: he was like, hey, I'm sorry too. 658 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, So that's good. But yeah, I think it 659 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: was an overreaction. I think, you know, every once in 660 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: a while we're humans, we go a little crazy. I 661 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: don't think it was the most egregious thing. 662 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: Ever. It's good that he apologized because he definitely should have. 663 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: And honestly, like, if someone did that to me on 664 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: a first date, I think I would think that was 665 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: kind of funny. Yeah, I would low key feel like 666 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: all three of us would thrive in that. Yeah. Yeah. 667 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: But also we're very different people. Yeah, like you know, 668 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: like like it's just we're we're just feel different now. 669 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean like we're all we're all more social, and 670 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: so if OP has anxiety, like I could totally understand, 671 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: you have to just suss out if someone's okay with 672 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: that first. Yeah. 673 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: Because also what if you go to the family and 674 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: they're like, imagine it was a I mean it already 675 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: sounds a little dysfunctional, decentlyoked. Imagine you went to a 676 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: insanely dysfunctional thing, just like damn. 677 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. But hey, like at least you know what you're 678 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: getting into upfront. That's a great point, all on the table, 679 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: all on. I like these kind of spontaneous like little 680 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: adventures like I did that my my little my little 681 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: story time, And I'll keep this brief. I met a 682 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: girl on the beach. I invited her to a and 683 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: some like deep okop listeners probably know about beach Girl, 684 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: but I invited her to a museum. We went through 685 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: the museum and I saw this guy wearing a shirt 686 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: that said Biscuits and Porn yep. And then I'm like 687 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: we talked to him, like where do you get that shirt? 688 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: And he's like, North Carolina at this biscuits and porn shop. 689 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: And then I turned to her and we're like, do 690 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: you want to go for a second date? And she's 691 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: like yes, and so we bought tickets that night and 692 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: we flew to North Carolina for second date. We bought 693 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: tickets that night. I bought tickets and she ghasted me 694 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: until like thirty minutes before our flight was about to leave. 695 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: I did not know, Yeah, dude, I didn't know she 696 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: was going to come. And then she finally showed up 697 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: and we had this amazing time in North Carolina. We 698 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: were like dancing at these dive bars and we were 699 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: like making out the stars while a lightning storm happened 700 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: on the beach and it was it was the most 701 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: incredible experience. And then I get back and I'm like, 702 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: we should totally hang out while we're here in La 703 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: because she's in La, and then I never really heard 704 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: from her again. It was lovely. It was lovely. 705 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's an amazing memory. Yeah, it's an amazing memory. 706 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: Except I gave her all the polaroids. Dude, I bought 707 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 2: her a polaroid camera. I was I came on too strong. 708 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: I came I was something so strong. 709 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: Question for everyone in the comments? Was Sam a simp? 710 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: I was such a sum? I was such a simp. 711 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I was such a samp. She literally 712 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: sent me a picture of like, you know, extra gum, right, Yeah, 713 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: what what was that thing? 714 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: Again? 715 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: I think it was to show that I was too extra. 716 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: I think I don't know. When you put in a 717 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: you know what, we'll go money aside. We'll go mine. 718 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: It's the money is important, but we'll put the money 719 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: aside for the creativity and emotional labor and time that 720 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: was invested in that whole excursion. 721 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: She bought the she bought the house. Okay, she she 722 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: paid for all the house. Not the house like that. 723 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: It was like a hotel or the. 724 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all the emotional labor and everything, like I 725 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: don't know, like that that seems a little mean spirited 726 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: to send extra gum as, like you're being too extraly. 727 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that being yeah, and also she didn't 728 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: ask me about like what the question about myself the 729 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: entire trip really but she was so cute, she was 730 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: super cute and very interesting, but not to be and 731 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: great memories, great memories. 732 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 2: I wonder if I will get to a point like 733 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: Beyonce has, like the Beehive, where if anyone wrongs them 734 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: then they will just viciously go after that person. 735 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: If I wasn't wrong, she just wasn't. 736 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: She wasn't It wasn't the match. I also have another 737 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: quick question for our audience. We have been playing around 738 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: with different ideas, one of which is what to call 739 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: you all. One of the ideas, because we talk about 740 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: hot tea so much, is to call you our tea bags. 741 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: What do you guys think of that? Can you give 742 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: us a thumbs up or thumbs down? On the okay gang? 743 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: Okay gang? 744 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: That was the original one they say, suggested you buy 745 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: a fan by the way, Yeah, okay, fame is. 746 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: A little better. Okay fam and then ta bags and 747 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: tea bags. Let us know what you think you like best, 748 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: But what I want best is this next story. Let's 749 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: get into it.