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Speaker 1: Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at

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Speaker 1: the intersection of sports, politics, and culture. Our purpose reveal

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Speaker 1: the common threads that bind them all.

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Speaker 3: So what's happening in women's basketball right now now is

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Speaker 3: what we've been trying.

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Speaker 4: To get to for almost thirty years.

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Speaker 1: From the stadiums where athlete to break barriers and set records.

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Speaker 1: Our discussions will uncover the vital connections between these realms

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Speaker 1: shines the light on all others. Welcome to Naked Sports.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Carrie Champion. So programming note, family, I

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Speaker 1: was asked to join levels to this podcast with the

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Speaker 1: legendary Cheryl Swoops and women's college basketball analysts Terreika Foster Brassby.

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Speaker 1: So you should know their podcast because trust me, these

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Speaker 1: that is the first thing. However, they asked me to

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Speaker 5: So, you know, Carrie, every single day, there's something something

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Speaker 4: Right, you sign an executive order.

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Speaker 5: To cancel the Department of Education, and you are removing

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Speaker 1: Just why I hear hear people say that I'm moving

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Speaker 7: I knew y'all.

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Speaker 4: Their execution when you get mopped by USC.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, do you play each other a fourth time?

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Speaker 1: from here to your point, Tarika, you know what I

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Speaker 4: One hundred, Juju is that girl.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who she's working with, but I need

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Speaker 1: her to work with in terms of, you know, of

437
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Speaker 1: a professional. Maybe I'm sure you can because you're you're loyalty,

438
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Speaker 1: but I need somebody to get in there and get

439
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Speaker 1: in her mind.

440
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Speaker 3: And what did you say, because she says your loyalty

441
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Speaker 3: said no, loyalty carry yes, I mean you.

442
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Speaker 1: Like USC and Juju. I don't know.

443
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Speaker 5: I no, no, no, no, no, no no no. Just to

444
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Speaker 5: be clear, neither of these teams are my team.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that.

446
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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, if we're gonna talk about loyalty, and I

447
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 5: don't know if that's the word I use, but I

448
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Speaker 5: would say this, I ride with South Carolina and State all.

449
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Speaker 1: Day, all day.

450
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Speaker 3: That that's what that is, what makes that is what

451
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: makes it hard being a fan and an analyst when

452
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: it comes to college, because you have to roll with

453
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Speaker 3: your with your squad. I graduated from an HBCU, I

454
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: did a few semesters at Michigan State University, and I

455
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 3: grew up a Michigan State fans. So as it relates

456
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 3: to D one, I'm spartan all day long, right, but

457
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: I tried to tone that down for women's basketball, just

458
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 3: because it's like, hey, you want to be professional, you

459
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 3: want to be fair, you know what I mean?

460
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Speaker 4: So I try.

461
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Speaker 3: I'm not always successful, but I try men's basketball. Leave

462
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Speaker 3: me alone today when we play. Don't call me, don't

463
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: text me. I'm talking.

464
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 4: I was talking about Michigan last night. I thought they

465
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Speaker 4: was gonna lose. I got so excited.

466
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Speaker 3: Y'all can breast my you can fus stop bracket up.

467
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: If that means Michigan is going home, that got to

468
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Speaker 3: go one hundred percent. Don't know, Basis Blue get no

469
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 3: love around here.

470
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: So that is what it is.

471
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Speaker 3: But it's so hard not to cheer for South Carolina.

472
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Speaker 3: It's so hard not to cheer for dawn S Day.

473
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Speaker 3: Like the level excellent station continues to just she has

474
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Speaker 3: completely shifted the standard to me of what women's basketball

475
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: is and where it should be. I think I would

476
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: love to owe the parody that we have in women's

477
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: college basketball now to the beginnings of how she started

478
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: to turn around not one program, but too, because she

479
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: didn't just do it at South Carolina. She turned around

480
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 3: Temple too.

481
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Speaker 4: She didn't at the end of the day.

482
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Speaker 3: It's just it's it's it's so fun because the tournament.

483
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Speaker 3: We're recording this on a Friday, and the tournament is

484
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Speaker 3: getting ready to start today.

485
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 4: So I love the fact that I look at.

486
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: This tournament and I can't fill out a bracket anymore

487
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: and say, well, we know the first two rounds is

488
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: gonna be No. We see upsets, Yeah, we see people

489
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: go like, we see players go off with it.

490
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like the madness is real.

491
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: And what I love more than anything about where we

492
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 3: are now with women's basketball is just the way that

493
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Speaker 3: people have an opportunity to make a name for themselves. Now.

494
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 4: I can never forget Jackie Young.

495
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: In twenty nineteen, she was not the projected number one

496
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Speaker 3: overall pitt oh No, it.

497
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 4: Was supposed to be Sabrina and ESCU that year.

498
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: Right, and then the tournament came and Notre Dame showed

499
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: out in that tournament and then they made it all

500
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: the way to the finals against Baylor. And granted Baylor

501
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: got the w that year, but at the end of

502
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 3: the day, it was like, yeah she.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and had been off Sason. Yeah she WASNA, you're

504
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: too late to get all his money, but yeah, you

505
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like late to get off the cash.

506
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: And I love it was.

507
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Speaker 1: It was building. All of it was building the building block.

508
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, I think, don I even and coach

509
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: and I I will be very honest of the coach.

510
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 1: Corey and I talk all the time. I fly off

511
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: for UCLA. I do things for them all the time.

512
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: That's my g She can call me up and I'll

513
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Speaker 1: do anything for her.

514
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Speaker 4: Love it.

515
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: But as UCLA was making this run, I remember her

516
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: asking if I wanted to go to the game in

517
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: South Carolina and I was like, ooh, I've missed that one.

518
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm gonna have to miss that

519
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: one because I don't want you to be mad at

520
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: me when I get excited for done. To your point,

521
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Speaker 1: I understand I better.

522
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Speaker 7: You know.

523
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Speaker 1: At the school. It's being a black woman before going

524
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Speaker 1: to school. You know, that's all it is. It was

525
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: like she's smart enough to understand that. Like, but I'm

526
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: still rooting for you, like I still want you all

527
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: to win, but you understand I feel such such a

528
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: and loyalty and watch I'm like, go ahead, boo, do

529
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: you get all this to make all the demands have

530
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: in zone? Be unapologetic, be a fighter? They know two things.

531
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Speaker 1: My team's not going there because if they're raised, won't

532
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: play there.

533
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 5: Yes, and garry that I'm sorry, that's what for me.

534
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 4: But besides, I.

535
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 5: Played with Don you know, in the WU, played with

536
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: her in the Olympics, like all of those things. I'm like,

537
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 5: that's my girl.

538
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 4: But here's what I.

539
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 5: Really here's what I really pull hard for Don is

540
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: because she's one of us, and people are always sitting

541
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 5: waiting for her as a black woman to fail, but

542
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 5: they don't want to sit there and cheer her on

543
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 5: in her successes. And you know, for so long we

544
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 5: we have been told as as a black woman and

545
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Speaker 5: looked at as a black woman leading in NC double

546
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 5: A Division one team, you can't do it. You as

547
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 5: a black woman can't win a championship. You can't recruit,

548
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 5: you can't get the all of those things. And don Staley,

549
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 5: she she don't say nothing.

550
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: She like just watched me. Just watch me.

551
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna do all the things that you say

552
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: I can't. I'm gonna turn this around. Yeah, I'm gonna

553
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 5: get what I deserve. Like I sit back and I

554
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 5: watched all these things, Like I text on it ain't

555
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 5: got none to do with basketball, But I'll just say

556
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 5: thank you, right, just thank you.

557
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 4: She she gets it, she sees it. She's a great

558
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: mentor for these young ladies.

559
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 5: And it's just hard for me to not not pull.

560
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 4: For her, right yep.

561
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 5: And yeah, so I'm yeah, and I'm always when people

562
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 5: come for her, they come for her players.

563
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the first one to be like, oh no,

564
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: we're not gonna do that. We're not gonna do it.

565
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: You're not gonna come for down Staley.

566
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 3: Like that's just they And I think folks often forget

567
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: that it wasn't in those same in those same comments

568
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: that you're that you're saying they said about her, which

569
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: they did. They now turn all of that around to

570
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: make it a negative. They now turned all that around

571
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: and say, well, of course she wins. She has all

572
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: these all these all Americans. It's like, but you said

573
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: I couldn't read proof all Americans, and they said, well,

574
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: of course she has all these great facilities because they.

575
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 4: Paid her all this money. But y'all don't know.

576
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: Don Staley put her own money into this program. Early on,

577
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: before I got to hear it was It's like everything

578
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: that y'all are saying was a negative that have now

579
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: become a positive. Now we're gonna figure out how to

580
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: make that thing a neetive. It's just a cycle that

581
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: will never end. And as we talk about Michelle Obama

582
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: telling us when they go low that we go lower down.

583
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: Maybe one of the few people who still goes high. Yeah,

584
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: and it's another reason why we continue to respect her

585
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: and everything that she's doing.

586
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: Yukon is coming.

587
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: You're listening to Naked Sports, and we gotta pay some bills.

588
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: We'll be right back in just a few moments. I'm

589
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: so grateful that these ladies from levels to this podcast

590
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: that's the legendary Sheryl swoops and the best in terms

591
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: of women's college basketball. Analyst Jarka Foster Brasby here on

592
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: Naked Sports. Take a listen. I'm really curious about how

593
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: you feel people are receiving women's basketball. It's not that

594
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: same fever pitch when it was Caitlin and Angel rees.

595
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel that exciting. Do you think women's basketball

596
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: needs that rivalry to get more? I mean they're still

597
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: spending the money. People are still but like the excitement

598
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: of where the man down the street who never watched

599
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: women basketball is talking about it, You know what I mean?

600
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: You know how when you guys stopped by people. I

601
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: don't feel that this time. BUTMANI had an interesting take,

602
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: and I don't always listen to men talk women's sports,

603
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: but he said, no matter what you think, And I

604
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: put this in my rivalry doc that Tarika was in.

605
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: The rivalry is such a good thing and they're missing

606
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: out on the rivalry that could be between Yukon and

607
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: NSC at South Carolina and I think that or I

608
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: feel like it could be USC maybe. And you talk

609
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: about Juju taking on page like, I wonder if that

610
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: storyline needs to be played up more even though it's

611
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: not a storyline, so that there's more interest. Do you

612
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying? Like cause I Angel Rees really

613
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: provided her being quote unquote in theory, the villain really

614
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: gave them what they needed to mean, Kaitlyn was great,

615
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: but we needed something else. We need it, We needed

616
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: it to be up here.

617
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

618
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: So what I would say to that is, I think

619
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: that the best rivalries are the ones that continue to

620
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 3: exist even when you don't have to force it. Because

621
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: that Caitlyn Clark and Angel Rees's rivalry, it still exists.

622
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: It's just in the w now as it relates to

623
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: the to women's college basketball. One thing that I've always

624
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: noticed and then scherryl you can, I mean you played

625
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: on the college level. I knew I was done after

626
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: high school. College was not gonna be for me. So

627
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: I don't have this experience, but it feels like what

628
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: I love about college rivalries is that no matter who

629
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: plays there, no matter how long, like, UCLA is always

630
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: gonna hate USC.

631
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Speaker 4: It don't matter. If Reggie's there, it don't matter. If

632
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: Lisa's there, it don't matter, if Like, it don't matter

633
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 4: if Cheryl Miller's there.

634
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: USC and u c l A are Michigan and Michigan

635
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: State will always hate each other.

636
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: It don't matter.

637
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: I don't care who played there, I don't even need

638
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: to know the players. If you're wearing a maze and blue.

639
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: Outs, you Michigan State came.

640
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: God, mat.

641
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: Can you? Yeah, you're back, You're back.

642
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: And so when I and now, I feel like at

643
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: one point in time that was Yukon and Tennessee, it

644
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: was like it didn't matter where it was, what was

645
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: going on, like it didn't have to have a.

646
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: Player name attachment.

647
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: So I say all that to say that I feel

648
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: like organic school rivalries are building in half built. I

649
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: think that South Carolina and Yukon, especially if they if

650
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: they reached you know again, this year, could definitely be

651
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: that kind of rivalry. U USC continuing to stay and

652
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: if you and if Lauren Betts comes back next year,

653
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: she's alluded to that continue that crosstown rivalry is something

654
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: that continues to grow. I don't think rivalries are sustainable

655
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: when it is just upon people.

656
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh oh. They need to be based on the school.

657
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: They need to be based on We need to make

658
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: these two schools, these teams face each other so much

659
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: and so good to where they start to feel away

660
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 3: about it because people come and go. We see that

661
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: in the men's game in the men's game, Duke and

662
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: North Carolina gonna forever be a rivalry. It don't matter

663
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: whatever it's gonna it's gonna let it's gonna be prime

664
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: time every single time. That Championships Classic is always gonna

665
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: be Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan State and Duke. It ain't gonna

666
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: never change because those schools are always and it's always

667
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: gonna bring eyes and attention.

668
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: The women's game have.

669
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: Yet to have that one, not since Yukon and Tennessee.

670
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: They have not had that one school where you're just like,

671
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: I don't care who played.

672
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: If these two teams matching up, it might be nasty tee.

673
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: I totally agree with you on that.

674
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 5: I have a different perspective as well when you talk

675
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: about rivalries, Like I didn't think Angel and Caitlyn was

676
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 5: a rivalry person Honestly, I thought this was you have

677
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 5: this really really, really really good white player and you

678
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 5: have this really good black player. And because of that,

679
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 5: I think people were like, well, I gotta pick one

680
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 5: or the other.

681
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: I gotta rock with Caitlyn or I gotta rock with Angel.

682
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 5: Because to me, a lot of the stuff that people

683
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 5: talked about it didn't really have anything to do with

684
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 5: the two of them playing basketball because they.

685
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 4: Didn't guard each other. Yeah, like it Caitlyn.

686
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 5: Caitlyn is in her own world. Caitlyn plays a certain way,

687
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 5: she plays a certain position, she does the thing she does,

688
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 5: and Angel does the thing she does. Right, So like,

689
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 5: both of these players can be really good. I think

690
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 5: people tried to make it a rivalry because that was

691
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 5: exciting for the game.

692
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: I will say this, I loved it.

693
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 5: Whether you considered it a rivalry or not, I loved

694
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 5: it because people were talking about the women's game. Yeah,

695
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 5: they were talking about Angel, they were talking about Caitlin,

696
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 5: but you ended up talking about the WNBA.

697
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: You ended up talking about the game.

698
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 5: I think a lot of times when people think about

699
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 5: women's basketball, women's sports in general, but in particular women's basketball,

700
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 5: they want us to all be like Kumbaya.

701
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 4: Oh they all like each other're Oh, they're all business.

702
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: Oh they don't curse, they don't swear, they don't play hard,

703
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 5: they don't foul.

704
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 4: Who right, But we've always played that way, And you

705
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 4: know what, I'm okay if.

706
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: You don't like me, yeah yeah, even.

707
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 5: If you do like me, when we step on that court,

708
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 5: I'm coming for your head every single time. When the

709
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 5: game's over. If we you know, we friends. When the

710
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 5: game's over, we're cool. We can go have dreams, we

711
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 5: can go talk, we can go talk about how I

712
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 5: just gave you forty and how you thought you was

713
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 5: going to hold me.

714
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: To twenty five. Sary to your point, I do think

715
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 4: it's really, really, really good for the game. But I

716
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 4: also think we're at a place right now.

717
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 5: Whether that's because of Caitlin Angel and the whole rookie

718
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 5: class last year, but also the Asia Wilson's, the.

719
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: Diana Trossi's right.

720
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 5: I think we're at a place right now though, where

721
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 5: women's basketball is in.

722
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: A really good place. People are talking about it.

723
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 5: I got people talking to me about it that didn't

724
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: even know the WNBA existed.

725
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 4: Until this season, right. Yeah.

726
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 5: And I'll end on this because I said this yesterday.

727
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 5: I know there's a new CBA coming up. I know

728
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 5: the players are like, listen, we want X, Y and Z. Rightfully,

729
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 5: So this is just my two cents. But I will

730
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 5: say this, if you don't get all those things that

731
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 5: you're asking for now, probably ain't the best time for

732
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 5: a lockout.

733
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Why would you say that.

734
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: Because of where the game is right now.

735
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 5: Oh, I just I don't think we're at a place

736
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 5: where we want.

737
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: To go down that role.

738
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: If you lose that momentum, it's no guarantee that you

739
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: will peak that right back.

740
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, what a tough space to be in because

741
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: I know players want to get more things, and you

742
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: got a generation of players and only a handful, But

743
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: they're used to getting what they want. You talking to

744
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: the likes of an Angel and a Caitlin and all

745
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: these other players that came in, they're used to fighting

746
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: for what they want.

747
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: Well, yes they should. So here's the thing, right, they should.

748
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 5: And I do think it's because of the Angels and

749
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 5: the Caitlin's that they probably will get a lot of

750
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 5: the things they're asking for. But here's the other thing

751
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 5: I say. You also only have probably a handful of

752
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 5: players that can afford do you play?

753
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

754
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 4: Wow, right, the opportunities are there.

755
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 5: When I look at you know what, dear March, I

756
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 5: saw a Flage Experience commercial, I'm like, what the hell like?

757
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 4: It's great?

758
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 5: Where everything that I'm seeing that they're doing, that's happening

759
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 5: that these women deserve. This is where we always wanted

760
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 5: to see the league, right, all these opportunities that they're getting,

761
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 5: but you also have to be strategic.

762
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 4: In what your plan is gonna be.

763
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 5: Right, you go to the table and you say we

764
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: want X, Y and Z, and if they come back

765
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 5: there like, all right, we'll give you X and Z.

766
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 5: But why don't know so way your options? Is it

767
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: really worth you all saying we're not we're not gonna

768
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 5: play because we want why Also, last thing I'll say,

769
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 5: I do feel with unrival and even with athletes unlimited, right,

770
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: there are two other leagues that these women have an

771
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: opportunity to play in. Granted and R I've only had

772
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 5: thirty players, AU only had forty players. But because there

773
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 5: are other opportunities, that is going to put pressure on

774
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 5: the W.

775
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: You took the words right out of my mouth, Shryl.

776
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: I was literally getting ready to say when you were

777
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: done that, I don't think that it will even need

778
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: to get to a lockout because I think the W

779
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 3: isn't stupid. As much as people criticize them, They're not stupid,

780
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: and they understand the product that they have, and they

781
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: too understand that this is a momentum that they can

782
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: ill afford to lose. This is a time that they

783
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: can ill afford to. They have an opportunity to put

784
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: this league in a different category, in a different financial status,

785
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: and I don't think that they would also be willing

786
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: to waste that over being stubborn. It has not worked

787
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 3: in the year's past, it will not work moving forward.

788
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: So I genuinely hope that they.

789
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: Are wise enough to understand that there is a give

790
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: and take, and as much as they want the players

791
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 3: to give and take, they have to give a little

792
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: bit too. So I don't think it'll get to a

793
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: lockout personally.

794
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay, that's so smart. And by the way, all the

795
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: nuance to what's happening you are. I love that. I

796
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: love the idea of being like the knowing yet unrivaled

797
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: in these other leagues exists. The w will have to

798
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: understand that these players do have more leverage than they need,

799
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: and you're right, only a handful of players show can

800
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 1: actually be like I'm off.

801
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 3: Set, I'm straight, Yeah, I'm fine, I got so that that's.

802
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 5: Why it's important, Carrie to have the right people in

803
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 5: the room when it comes to the negotiating, because it

804
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 5: can't just be about you, right, like, well, this is

805
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 5: what I want because you're speaking for the entire league.

806
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: You're speaking for all these women who who don't have

807
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 5: these endorsement deals, who don't have these opportunities, who might

808
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 5: only be making seventy five thousand dollars during the WNBA season.

809
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

810
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: Do you remember the movie one forty four, Remember the

811
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: movie that came out.

812
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

813
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 3: One thing that always sticks out to me is Courtney Williams.

814
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 3: Courtney forty four was the movie about the Governor player,

815
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 3: the documentary with the players in the bubble during the

816
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: during the pandemic, and it's really good. It's really good,

817
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 3: and Courtney Williams was very vulnerable in there. And when

818
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: they showed the clips of them being at the table

819
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: amongst each other speaking.

820
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: Courtney said, I don't want.

821
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 3: There was the question became whether or not they play

822
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 3: a specific game because of a player player player, because

823
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: of say.

824
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: It again, no kidd okay, she was Candace wasn't in

825
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 4: one forty four.

826
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: It was Superga, SUPERB, Kelsey Plumb, it was Elizabeth william

827
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: So in a in in one four, the players were

828
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: having a conversation whether or not to play a specific

829
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 3: game because there was a shooting in which Jacob Blake

830
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: was shot, and the NBA when they were in their bubble,

831
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: they decided that they were not going to play, and

832
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: so the WNBA had to make a decision whether or

833
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: not they were not going to play. And here you

834
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: are in a season where there are more eyes on

835
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: your sport than any other eyes, because if we're in

836
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: a pandemic, can't nobody going nowhere? They're playing in the summertime.

837
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: And on top of that, it's all about how you

838
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: make money. You make money based off how you play

839
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 3: and when you play. And so Courtney Williams was like, listen,

840
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm not about not trying to play this game because

841
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: I can't afford to not play. I can't afford the

842
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: ramifications that could come from networks or whoever else. Don't

843
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: want to show our games no more because we're deciding

844
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 3: not to play.

845
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: And so there was conversation and I respected.

846
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: Courtney Williams for that because it was very clear that

847
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: it wasn't necessarily because I feel that we shouldn't stand

848
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: up for Jacob Blak. But the reality is I have

849
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: to provide, and she said this, it's my responsibility to

850
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: provide from my family and I can provide for my

851
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: family if you don't know, checks come through, because the

852
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: rest of y'all can afford to provide for your family,

853
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: whether y'all get this check or not. I ain't got

854
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: that and have I never had more respect for Courtney

855
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: than I did at that moment because she kept it

856
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: real and she spoke for so many other people who

857
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 3: honestly filled up, who wouldn't speak up but felt the

858
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: same way. It's not about wanting to not stand up

859
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: for this right, but it's also about being realistic that

860
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 3: I don't make what y'all make. I can't afford to mischecks.

861
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: And I think that's a conversation that will happen amongst players,

862
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: not in front of the WNBA, but just amongst each other,

863
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: amongst peers when they consider if it ever gets to

864
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 3: this part a lockout where you have to be considerate

865
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: of your sister, and everybody don't got it like you

866
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 3: got it.

867
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, that is a decision that has

868
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: to be made in every professional sport. That's why the

869
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: NFL finds them self fighting getting people won't all protest,

870
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: and people say because they're players who make no money,

871
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: and then there are players who make a lot of money,

872
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: and there is and by for us, for you, by

873
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Speaker 1: our stand and say I'll make a lot of money, right,

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Speaker 1: but I'm somebody who might do a league minimum at

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Speaker 1: five hundred versus somebody who has one hundred million dollar

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Speaker 1: deal and approach the game differently. So it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: It totally does. Wow, you gave me a education. I

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Speaker 1: hope they don't like out there tul because we don't

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Speaker 1: want to.

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Speaker 4: We don't know it just listened.

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Speaker 5: The momentum, the momentum that we have right now is

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Speaker 5: to be honest with you, there are times are I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 5: this is really happening in the double.

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Speaker 4: NBA for the w players.

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Speaker 5: And so that's why I'm like, it's you know what,

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Speaker 5: maybe in five years, if we're back here having this conversation,

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Speaker 5: I might feel differently.

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Speaker 4: But just the.

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Speaker 5: The viewership, the attendance, the I didn't even care if

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Speaker 5: it was bad publicity.

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Speaker 4: You're talking about the WNBA, right.

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Speaker 5: We just don't want to get to a point where

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Speaker 5: we're like, all right, we're not going to play this

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Speaker 5: season and all of that momentum, like it's for yeah.

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Speaker 3: And selfishly, I don't want y'all to lock out either,

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Speaker 3: because that's my pay check.

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Speaker 2: What you need?

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Speaker 4: Seriously, I got to cover this sport. What okaep me

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Speaker 4: on payroll?

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Speaker 3: And I ain't gonna come on. I don't mess on

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Speaker 3: my bro. We ain't want forty four. It's gonna be more.

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Speaker 3: We didn't added three. You gotta have thirty six small.

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Speaker 1: People here mathing, not this mathing that I.

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Speaker 4: Didn't know I would. My degree in political science, not math.

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Speaker 4: I'm just adding. I was just adding the valkyrie for this.

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Speaker 4: Oh MG, Carrie, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I should stay here all night and

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Speaker 1: talk to y'all. Y'all just gave me a full education.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you just like me and I

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Speaker 1: love what we did, how we did it all. We

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Speaker 1: put the intersection of all of it together. We did

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Speaker 1: a monolith. We know all things, and so I.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate that absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I look we didn't capture away pie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening to sports again. A huge

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Speaker 1: shout out to levels to this podcast with Chryl Swoops

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Speaker 1: and ta Rika. I appreciate you both. I have learned

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Speaker 1: so much. Thank you all for being here. Join us

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Speaker 1: next week Naked Sports written and executive produced by me

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