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Speaker 2: Yo just hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Hey yo, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Laura La Rossa, good morning y'all.

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Speaker 1: Charlmagne and be is stuck behind a dump truck somewhere

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Speaker 1: and it should have left home like ten minutes earlier.

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Speaker 1: But it's okay because sometimes I be late to it

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Speaker 1: don't matter, no, it don't matter.

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Speaker 2: How was your night last night? My night was great.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to sixty three Auto spot.

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Speaker 4: They took me out to dinner, okay, of course, and

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Speaker 4: you know, having some great conversations and some great food.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so that's all. Yeah, that's what I can

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Speaker 2: say right now. Date it wasn't a date. Oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a day. Sound like something. They took me

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Speaker 2: out on the day, like, okay, how many of them

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Speaker 2: was it? It was for?

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Speaker 1: It's like no, no, no yo, no no no.

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Speaker 2: No no no it was. It was just it was

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Speaker 2: like more like a business dinner thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Working, I'm about to do some car stuff, you know, workwise,

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Speaker 2: so that's what's up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're about to be a mechanic.

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Speaker 2: Too, girl. You know I can't, but we never do

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Speaker 2: with these nails.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we ain't gonna get in this mechanic outfit.

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Speaker 1: You look nice given set it off.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm ronky.

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Speaker 4: I'm about to be, you know, just doing brand work.

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Speaker 4: Look at Eli, he's so high. He's telling me, I

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Speaker 4: look like set it off.

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Speaker 2: Every time I weard this Malana off there every single time.

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Speaker 1: But he said, he gave you queen and tef he

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Speaker 1: ain't shitn't have been and my wig is on and

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Speaker 1: it is and I didn't have the breath.

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Speaker 6: You can't even see a breeze. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, yesterday, you know, the weather was nice.

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Speaker 1: Me and my man took our daughter out for the

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Speaker 1: first time, well not the first time any like, shan't

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Speaker 1: never been out, but to the farmer's market. Like we

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Speaker 1: had her in the stroller strolling around and she was

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Speaker 1: like looking up the stroller. She was chilling and and

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Speaker 1: it was it was a whole dope time. We got

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Speaker 1: some fruits and vegetables. You know, that is very much

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Speaker 1: on brand for my man, yo, Like he he loved

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Speaker 1: doing it. He loved playing and growing and all.

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Speaker 2: That type of stuff. So yeah, it was a nice

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Speaker 2: little and then we of course had to have a

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Speaker 2: drink somewhere. We went to Local. I love Local Eatery.

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Speaker 2: It's a spot in Jersey City.

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Speaker 6: It's lit. You gotta go.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I gotta figure that out. I never I

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Speaker 4: never been refer I'm cracking up. You're talking about she

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Speaker 4: was looking around the show that she ain't been nowhere.

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Speaker 1: No, I know, we first time of us actually having

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Speaker 1: her at a farmer's market, like people close to it

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Speaker 1: can see her, walk up on her and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: So it was it was a nice experience. Aren't you

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Speaker 2: trying to hide her from artist?

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Speaker 6: You know what?

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Speaker 2: I already deal with that from these two niggas up here.

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Speaker 1: You do not be in on the ice stuff with

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Speaker 1: my daughter because they're gonna get me open the show together.

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Speaker 1: I know, right, Yeah, ain't a crazy over hare sweating

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Speaker 1: bullets cause I don't know what to say next anyway.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it is Wednesday. It's Wednesday, so it's hump day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: hump day, what charlamage do?

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Speaker 2: Oh these authors, I tell you.

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Speaker 2: And it's out now as well. And we got Front

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Speaker 2: Page News.

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Speaker 1: Cracking off, and Mimi Brown is here because Morgan is out.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna get the show cracking and we'll be

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Speaker 2: right back after this. Yeah, I know that's right there.

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Speaker 7: Warning everybody is TJ N V jes hilarious, Charlamage the God.

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Speaker 6: We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 8: We are here, Yes, thank you going Yeah, I'm telling

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Speaker 8: on the garbage trucks this morning.

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Speaker 9: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing you can do when things are out of

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Speaker 8: But you know, if you're in New York City where

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Speaker 8: we broadcast from NYC, three eleven is the number to

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Speaker 8: report the garbage trucks.

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Speaker 3: Oh my damn.

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Speaker 8: Anytime you get stupped find the garbage trucks and they

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Speaker 8: just disrespectful like that. I know, everybody start blowing their horn.

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Speaker 8: I don't because there's nothing you can do in that situation.

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Speaker 6: But if they don't have.

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Speaker 8: No regard for people that got to get to go

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Speaker 8: where they gotta go, and they taking the little time,

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Speaker 8: report them a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 7: I understand, but literally, charlamage and I was between ten

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Speaker 7: and fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: People behind the truck.

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Speaker 7: And you two blocks away from the two blocks away

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Speaker 7: from work, Come on, fifteen minutes, we're stuck.

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Speaker 6: Come on, man and YC three eleven.

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Speaker 8: You don't know people in the emergencies and they're sick

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Speaker 8: trying to get to the hospital.

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Speaker 6: You don't know what it is. Report them garbage trucks

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Speaker 6: that do that.

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Speaker 7: And they was taking their sweet time. I'm sitting there, Yeah, wow,

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Speaker 7: how to.

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Speaker 6: Call on them?

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Speaker 1: If a lot of dump truck workers are black, they're

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Speaker 1: not Mexican.

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Speaker 6: But if we're thinking about somebody I could call.

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Speaker 8: In that moment, that's what made me google and find

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Speaker 8: out about NYC three eleven, because in that moment, I

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Speaker 8: was just like.

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Speaker 2: Yo, you literally google to who to call on the disk.

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Speaker 8: We were there for fifteen minutes and had nothing to

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Speaker 6: I wasn't even thinking about me.

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Speaker 8: I was just thinking what about anybody else that might

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, all right, well let's get in some front page news.

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Speaker 7: Let's start off with some quick sports. Now, last night

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Speaker 7: the Lakers tied the series. They beat the timber Wolves

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Speaker 7: ninety four eighty five, then to beat the Grizzlies one

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Speaker 7: the Pacers beat the Bucks one twenty three, one fifteen.

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Speaker 7: They lead that series in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: What's up to me?

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Speaker 2: It's he up, y'all?

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Speaker 8: Good morning, how y'all doing, Good.

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Speaker 10: Morning, good morning.

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Speaker 11: All right, well, let's start with something that is about

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Speaker 11: to hit people in their pockets. The Trump administration says

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Speaker 11: it will resume debt collection for people who have defaulted

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Speaker 11: on their federal student loans starting May fifth. Now, student

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Speaker 11: loan goes into default if you hadn't made a payment

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Speaker 11: in about two hundred and seventy days, or approximately around

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Speaker 11: nine months. The Department of Education says this will apply

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Speaker 11: to all federal loan types, including direct loans, perkin loans,

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Speaker 11: federal family education loans. So right now, more than five

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Speaker 11: million people are already in default and another four million

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Speaker 11: people are close to it. That means nearly nine million

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Speaker 11: borrowers could soon face really serious consequences. In a press conference,

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Speaker 11: Press Secretary Caroline leave it levittxcuse me explained how the

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Speaker 11: administration plans to move forward with collections.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear what she had to say.

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Speaker 12: Borrowers will now be clearly expected to repay their loans,

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Speaker 12: and those who default on their loan obligations will face

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Speaker 12: involuntary collections. The government can and will collect defaulted federal

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Speaker 12: student loan debt by withholding money from borrowers tax refunds,

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Speaker 12: federal pensions, and even their wages.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought they already did that.

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Speaker 7: I know for a fact when I had school loans

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Speaker 7: to pay the school loans.

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Speaker 6: So I thought that was already done.

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Speaker 11: Well you know what they started it. They put it

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Speaker 11: back into session like right around COVID. So they haven't

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Speaker 11: pressed or went after student loan borrowers since before the

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Speaker 11: COVID nineteen crisis.

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Speaker 10: And so now the Trump administration.

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Speaker 11: Says it will start sending out notices later this summer

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Speaker 11: informing those who have defaulted on their student loans about

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Speaker 11: their wage garnishment. They can take up to fifteen percent

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Speaker 11: of your check.

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Speaker 10: Again.

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Speaker 11: All this starts on May fifth. And if you think

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Speaker 11: you might be in default the administration, they recommend you

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Speaker 11: contacting the Student Aid Default Resolution Group. You may be

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Speaker 8: If you voted for Trump because of the economy, if

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Speaker 8: you voted for Trump because he was gonna put more

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Speaker 8: money in your pockets, you've got to be rethinking that decision.

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Speaker 8: That this of course, of course, but when you have

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Speaker 8: it's even been one hundred days, Lord have mercy.

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Speaker 6: You're right.

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Speaker 7: But when you have school loans, right, and when you graduate,

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Speaker 7: you have to look for a job, and then it

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Speaker 7: gives you a certain amount of time to find a job,

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Speaker 7: and at nine times out of ten, that job can't

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Speaker 7: pay for your rent. If you have a car, you're eating,

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Speaker 7: and then to pay that school loan. There's no possible way.

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Speaker 7: You can't afford to pay all those sticks.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and if inflation is high, if people are losing

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Speaker 8: their jobs, if tariffs got to cost the goods high,

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Speaker 8: where people are gonna.

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Speaker 6: Get this money from? Exactly what wage you gonna gone this?

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Speaker 6: I ain't got none.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna You're just gonna mess up my credit.

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Speaker 7: But I can't pay you because it's either my rent

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Speaker 7: or it is gonna pay these cool loans. And which

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Speaker 7: way you're gonna pay? And if you got kids, I

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Speaker 7: gotta put food on the table. I'm gonna play the

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Speaker 7: school loans.

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Speaker 8: Only fans selling ass twenty five cheek twenty.

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Speaker 6: Five hey, not only work.

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Speaker 3: If you white? All right, well that is front page news, Mimi.

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Speaker 7: We'll see you next hour, all right, everybody else, get

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Speaker 7: it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one

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Speaker 7: oh five one. If you need to vent, phone lines

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Speaker 7: are wide open. Eight hundred five eight five one oh

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Speaker 7: five one. Maybe you're driving to work. You were about

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Speaker 7: fifteen minutes twenty minutes from working, then you got stuck

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Speaker 6: We were gonna show fifteen twenty minutes from work. We

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Speaker 6: were three minutes from work. I know it's two blocks away.

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Speaker 7: Damn it many whatever it is, get it off your chest.

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Speaker 6: It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wait, it's a day is

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Speaker 6: Mad or blessed, time to get up and get something.

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Speaker 9: Call up now.

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Speaker 6: Eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one.

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Speaker 6: Hello.

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Speaker 13: Who's this avenue?

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Speaker 6: Eben?

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Speaker 3: Good morning?

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Speaker 6: Get one morning? What's up?

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Speaker 14: Okay, I'm calling I'm let me get off my chance

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Speaker 6: The student loans, I'm one of them.

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Speaker 14: Yes, I'm one of those people that is like still

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Speaker 2: I rain't got my CEO.

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Speaker 15: Probably making more money in the last four years doing

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Speaker 13: He's papers car.

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Speaker 6: Look here, that's true.

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Speaker 14: But the student loans about to kill me like I'm

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Speaker 13: And he just felt me with that.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I was saying.

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Speaker 7: you're gonna garnish fifteen percent. That's impossible.

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Speaker 6: You can't do that.

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Speaker 15: Like I'm I'm straight. Took the gas every week, so

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Speaker 6: Streme right, that is very true.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know what man, I really do hope that

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Speaker 7: And I don't know if people know that if you

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Speaker 7: to the school loans her school looms. Yes, absolutely, Well I.

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Speaker 2: Time, that you do, Yes, if you went, you gotta

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Speaker 6: I sold crack, but you ain't got paid. Lose this

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Speaker 6: This is.

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Speaker 10: Anonymous in Jersey.

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Speaker 16: I don't know who's listening.

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Speaker 6: So millions of people but you can give a fake name.

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Speaker 6: It's like nobody can see you.

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Speaker 3: Man, Melissa Pasta, what's up?

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Speaker 14: So I'm mad because I am tired.

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Speaker 13: I work three jobs.

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Speaker 17: I'm not a single parent, but I'm tired and the

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Speaker 3: Been effect mm hmm, all right, Josha, so good.

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Speaker 6: That crop o, Tasha. I am praying for you.

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Speaker 8: And then you know, there's there's nothing anybody can do

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Speaker 3: As it doesn't even make sense. But between this and

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Speaker 7: Credit cards, right, people are usually latest because they're trying

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Speaker 7: They're gonna bring back the high rates for being late,

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Speaker 7: which affects nobody like you said to have it makes no.

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Speaker 14: Sense, doesn't And I can never get through to man.

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Speaker 9: Oh man, oh man.

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Speaker 17: If this is the master, like you know, and you

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Speaker 7: Well, hold on, hold on, Tasha, hold on, Tasha, hold on,

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Speaker 7: hold on. We're gonna put your whole We're gonna just

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Speaker 6: Okay, I just want the record the show.

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Speaker 8: Not to make this political man, but you know, Trump

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Speaker 8: if you run on things like groceries, which he said,

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Speaker 7: Right, get it off your chest eight hundred five eight

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Speaker 7: five one oh five one. If you need to vent,

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Speaker 7: hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club in the morning,

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Speaker 7: the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 9: This is your time to get it off your chest.

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Speaker 6: Eight hundred five eight five one five one.

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Speaker 9: We want to hear from you on the breakfast Club. Hello,

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Speaker 9: who's that yo? What's up? Brother?

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Speaker 6: Get it off your chest?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I just I mean, honestly, I want to talk about this.

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Speaker 6: Whole studio long thing they had to talk to us.

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Speaker 13: Brother, I just I don't understand how y'all get on

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Speaker 13: the radio, specifically Charla Man and then he y'all are

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Speaker 13: If you borrow money, why you have to pay it back.

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Speaker 7: I don't understand that nobody's saying you don't have to

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Speaker 7: for my rent, you're gonna start garnishing my wages and

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Speaker 13: That's not the tax payers for that. We decided to

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Speaker 13: We got to stop pushing the nine taking accountability.

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Speaker 7: No, nobody's nobody's doing none taking accountability.

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Speaker 13: Y'all have to stop.

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Speaker 9: City City. Let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question because it's his administration

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Speaker 7: When the automotive industry was going down, and the automotive

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Speaker 7: When all these billion dollar companies are messed up, the

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Speaker 7: Nobody say nobody gonna pay him back, but just help out.

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Speaker 7: Just look for the common people when they know things

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Speaker 6: Up, and brother and brother can ask you a simple question.

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Speaker 8: You told me not to blame Trump, but the Trump

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Speaker 6: So who else am I supposed to blame?

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Speaker 13: Absolute? Absolutely, because again we have to start taking accountability

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Speaker 13: we can't sit here and take out federal funds and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but did you but talking about did you hear.

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Speaker 8: Talking about did you hear what V just said When

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Speaker 13: Loans and the people, we can't keep looking at corporations.

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Speaker 8: You're not making no sense. You're you're one of those

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Speaker 13: You're rich? Stop telling people you are rich. You're rich.

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Speaker 13: Here is a completely different things than what you say

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Speaker 13: on the Brilliant Idiots started.

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Speaker 8: You know why, you know, you know, you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: He said you wasn't rich.

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Speaker 6: You said you wasn't rich. I'm I'm doing okay that

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Speaker 6: you keep.

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Speaker 13: On the podcast.

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Speaker 6: I don't talk no different than than on Brilliant, not

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Speaker 3: But this, but this is what you don't understand city life.

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Speaker 9: You know it.

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Speaker 6: That's a damn lie. You ain't never heard me think

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Speaker 13: Get here in cap bro you can get over here

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Speaker 13: in cup all you want to. I'm a city wife

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Speaker 7: And this is what people, This is what he doesn't understand. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Do this to people where people are hurt, they're struggling.

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Speaker 3: They can't.

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Speaker 7: They got to make a decision to pay rent or

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Speaker 3: A Daycad, it ain't.

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Speaker 7: Right when the government helped so many people, and Hope

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Speaker 6: Help your people.

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Speaker 8: And you know what's so great, it's not even that

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Speaker 8: they just doing garnishing wagers. They're doing that the pensions

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Speaker 3: He just raised the late fees for the credit cards

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Speaker 6: The people that are struggling, You just can't.

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Speaker 9: You can't.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have all of the biggest most mad he was,

451
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Speaker 2: he does.

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Speaker 6: Didn't make no sense.

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Speaker 8: Now I'm blaming, and that's why I don't even like

454
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Speaker 8: to be I don't even like to say politics because

455
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Speaker 8: people think you on the side.

456
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Speaker 6: The Trump administration is the one who's doing this. So

457
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Speaker 6: who else we supposed to play?

458
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Speaker 7: Get it off your chicks, eight hundred and five eight five,

459
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Speaker 7: one oh five one. When we come back, we got

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Speaker 7: the latest for Lauren. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, the Breakfast Club, Good morning everybody.

462
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Speaker 7: It's the j Envy, Jess, Hilary, Charlamagne, the guy we

463
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Speaker 7: are the breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: What's happening, And let's get to the latest with Lauren.

466
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Speaker 6: Lauren becoming a straight back.

467
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Speaker 9: She gets them from somebody that knows, somebody gets to detail.

468
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Speaker 2: I'm a long girl that knows a little bit about everything,

469
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Speaker 2: and she'd.

470
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Speaker 6: Be having the latest on this, The.

471
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Speaker 9: Latest with Lauren la Rosa.

472
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Speaker 8: Sometimes you have fact, sometimes you have details, sometimes you

473
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Speaker 8: have a little bit of everything.

474
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Speaker 9: So it's the latest on the Breakfast club talk to me.

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Speaker 4: Well, we now know that Shannon Sharp did try to

476
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Speaker 4: settle with his accuser for at least ten million dollars.

477
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Speaker 4: This was revealed yesterday by his attorney in a phone

478
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Speaker 4: call that they had with a bunch of different media outlets.

479
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Speaker 4: But prior to this phone call, and I believe what

480
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Speaker 4: sparked the phone call was the fact that there was

481
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Speaker 4: this audio released by TMZ. But in the audio is

482
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Speaker 4: a phone call between the accuser and Shannon Sharp. Let's

483
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Speaker 4: take a listen to the phone call.

484
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Speaker 6: I don't know anything.

485
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Speaker 2: I say, You're just gonna like get mad at and

486
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Speaker 2: you're just gonna hang up on me.

487
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Speaker 18: So I feel like I.

488
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Speaker 9: Ain't up on you.

489
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Speaker 13: What it is?

490
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Speaker 18: What does that even mean?

491
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Speaker 2: You want to be to me now? So I don't

492
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,480
Speaker 2: want to be. Don't manipulate me.

493
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Speaker 16: I know that if you said that one one more time,

494
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Speaker 16: I'll show you that I see you.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 13: Well, I don't you know what?

497
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Speaker 2: Oh I don't want to be?

498
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Speaker 6: True?

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Speaker 9: Yeah you do.

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Speaker 13: I don't think you have a choice in the matter.

501
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Speaker 6: How old that girl you said?

502
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Speaker 13: What?

503
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Speaker 19: How old you? Uh?

504
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Speaker 2: She's in her early twenties now, like what twenty one?

505
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Speaker 13: Right? Yeah?

506
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Speaker 2: She was in twenty twenty three. She was nineteen, So.

507
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she looks like she's like twelve thirty.

508
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Speaker 1: I mean to say, I have not seen the picture

509
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Speaker 1: showed just her. Oh wo show another pecko.

510
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Speaker 6: You gonna have to call liights in a minute.

511
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Speaker 2: She going her way to class right there she does.

512
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Speaker 2: She does it like a young college looks like a college.

513
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Speaker 13: Wow. Yeah.

514
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Speaker 4: So what happened was after this audio was released at

515
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 4: the same time, literally like moments apart, Shannon Sharp then

516
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 4: released a video statement, and in the video statement, he

517
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Speaker 4: is addressing.

518
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Speaker 3: She's twenty two, by the way, twenty two.

519
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Speaker 4: Now he's addressing what he believes is about to happen,

520
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Speaker 4: but he doesn't address the audio. Let's take a listen

521
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Speaker 4: to his video that he posted, Shannon Chark, this is

522
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Speaker 4: a shakedown.

523
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Speaker 16: This is all being orchestrated by Tony Busby, who is

524
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Speaker 16: targeted Jay Z. Tony Buzzby targets black men, and I

525
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Speaker 16: believe he's going to release a thirty second clip of

526
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Speaker 16: a sex tape that tries to make me look guilty

527
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Speaker 16: and played into every stereotype you.

528
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Speaker 9: Could possibly imagine.

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Speaker 16: That video should actually be ten minutes or so, Hey, Tony,

530
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Speaker 16: instead of releasing your edit put the whole video out.

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Speaker 16: I don't have it, or I would myself. You know

532
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Speaker 16: what happened, and you're trying to manipulate the media. The

533
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Speaker 16: encountering question took place during the day at her invitation,

534
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Speaker 16: and now that appears to be able deliver setup coordinated

535
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Speaker 16: by Gavin also known as Karly on OnlyFans Gavin Tony

536
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Speaker 16: Busby want fifty million dollars. What they're getting is sued

537
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Speaker 16: for defamation and trying to take me down. My career

538
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Speaker 16: is all about real talking honesty, and I'm going to

539
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 16: be out there telling you whatever I need to say,

540
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Speaker 16: just like I always do.

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Speaker 9: I love all of you guys.

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Speaker 5: You know.

543
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Speaker 6: It is a shakedown. It is a targeted attack.

544
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Speaker 8: But Shannon needed to have some accountability because he gave

545
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Speaker 8: them something to shake down. He gave them something to

546
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Speaker 8: target by making poor choices.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and when he so basically when he mentioned her

548
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Speaker 4: name in the fact that she's the Only Fans girl,

549
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Speaker 4: people went and look and looked her up. So that's

550
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Speaker 4: how her photos begin to surface. Now on this phone

551
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Speaker 4: call that his attorney had with the media. The phone

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Speaker 4: call the attorney Shannon Strump's attorney addresses that audio that

553
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Speaker 4: we heard first, and what he says is that Shannon

554
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Speaker 4: spoke in the heat of the moment and did not

555
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Speaker 4: literally mean the words. Then they start having conversations about,

556
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Speaker 4: you know, the like different text messages that have been released,

557
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Speaker 4: and I printed out the text messages for you guys.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that I want to point out

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Speaker 4: here because basically what Shannon is saying is that there's

561
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Speaker 4: this video that's about to come out. They ask people

562
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Speaker 4: on this phone call with the media to not judge

563
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Speaker 4: because it's going to be and edit it format allegedly,

564
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Speaker 4: and so you won't get.

565
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Speaker 2: The full context.

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Speaker 4: But Shannon had said earlier in his statement, the first

567
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Speaker 4: statement he released, that there were things that he was

568
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Speaker 4: doing almost like role play that was a He says

569
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Speaker 4: that this was at the woman's request. And from the

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Speaker 4: look of these text messages, so there's two sets of them.

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Speaker 4: The first text message that came out Gabby, who's the woman,

572
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Speaker 4: the accuser. This is from January second, twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: and this is when she says that she was sexually assaulted.

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Speaker 4: So she's texting him and she's saying that she had

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Speaker 4: cried when he left because she had asked him to

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Speaker 4: put on a condom and she had begged him to

577
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Speaker 4: not put it in her behind, but he didn't listen.

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Speaker 2: And she says that she doesn't care what their history is.

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Speaker 2: No means no, right.

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Speaker 4: Then she's like, I don't know how to process this.

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Speaker 4: And then they're like, you know, can I call you later?

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Speaker 4: I guess can they talk later? But then in other

583
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Speaker 4: text messages you see the conversation. It goes from that

584
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Speaker 4: to her sending text messages and say I want to

585
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Speaker 4: be abused, daddy. I want like some hardcore BDSM action

586
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Speaker 4: though so and then she says, I want you to

587
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Speaker 4: tie me up like this and abuse me, daddy, And

588
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: you can see when the sex messages were released, you

589
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Speaker 4: can see it says like from Gabby to owner. So

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Speaker 4: it's painting a picture that their relationship was giving that

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Speaker 4: you know, there was role playing everythings that were happening.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 8: It was a very unfortunate situation, horrible situation. The shop

594
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Speaker 8: and his lawyer have handled this whole situation terribly. First

595
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Speaker 8: of all, if you're saying the shop, you shouldn't be

596
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Speaker 8: saying anything. He should Busby and this young woman got

597
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Speaker 8: audio video and text messages. If you know all of

598
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Speaker 8: those things are out there, you should shut the f

599
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Speaker 8: up and continue to allow your lawyer to do his job.

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Speaker 8: And your lawyer set out of his own mouth that

601
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Speaker 8: you was close to a ten million dollars settlement with

602
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Speaker 8: that girl, that right there is all the more reason

603
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Speaker 8: to shut the f up.

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Speaker 6: I'm not here to speak to Shannon's guilt.

605
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Speaker 8: Are innocent because I don't know, but I do know

606
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Speaker 8: attempting to settle looks like an admission to guilt because

607
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Speaker 8: I'm not settling, or.

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Speaker 2: I'm just scared. Honestly, he's just probably scared.

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Speaker 7: I'm with you, man, I feel I feel like he's

610
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Speaker 7: being advised wrong right. And you know when people go

611
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Speaker 7: through this, they go to an attorney because the attorney

612
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Speaker 7: usually knows what's best for them.

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Speaker 3: They do usually know what to do.

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Speaker 7: And in this situation, like any attorney would say, shut

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Speaker 7: the f up unless deal with it in court. Let's

616
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Speaker 7: deal with facts, because you can't change public opinion unless

617
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Speaker 7: it's in court with facts. Now, but one thing I

618
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 7: would say if somebody said this, but I cried when

619
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Speaker 7: you left because I beg you to put a condom

620
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Speaker 7: on and you put it in my thief and you

621
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Speaker 7: didn't listen. I don't care what our history is. If

622
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Speaker 7: that didn't happen, I'm gonna be like, what the hell

623
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Speaker 7: are you talking about? Nah, we agreed on this. I'm

624
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Speaker 7: not gonna be like I'll call you later because I'm

625
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Speaker 7: feeling like this is a setup right here. As soon

626
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Speaker 7: as you text me this, I'm gonna feel a little

627
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Speaker 7: and nobody's just gonna respond.

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Speaker 9: I'll call you that.

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Speaker 7: He can be like, what the hell are you talking about?

630
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Speaker 7: We both agree to that, you know, like, but this

631
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Speaker 7: is part of the game. Like nobody's gonna respond with that,

632
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Speaker 7: which scares me. But like charlotmade said, shut the f up,

633
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Speaker 7: let it. Let the facts play out in court, because

634
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 7: right now all this talking is doing too much.

635
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Speaker 6: Audio and it's making it worse.

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Speaker 2: You're manipulating me. Like even that would have been like, oh, nah, okay,

637
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Speaker 2: I see what this is. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: But wouldn't you have.

639
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Speaker 7: Changed that right from the door? Yeah, Like what are

640
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 7: you talking about? Like no, no, no, like, like, let's

641
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Speaker 7: not pleas can were you taping me? Because last night

642
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 7: we was good with this, Like my opinion.

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Speaker 4: Well, his attorney is saying that these text messages all

644
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Speaker 4: only show that the woman in question likes and asks

645
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Speaker 4: for fantasy role playing in other forms of unusual sexual behavior,

646
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Speaker 4: and they shut down the idea that you know, they're

647
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Speaker 4: still denying any sexual sort allegations or anything that nature.

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Speaker 4: I did reach out to Attorney Busby though, because that

649
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Speaker 4: audio we listened to it wasn't in full. It was

650
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Speaker 4: like a minute, a little bit over a minute. I'm like, yo,

651
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Speaker 4: why would you only release that? And he said to me,

652
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 4: he said, I'm not trying this case in the press.

653
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Speaker 4: We released this only because Shannon Sharp's lawyer chose to

654
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Speaker 4: attempt to discredit in docs Jane Doe by releasing multiple

655
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Speaker 4: texts with no contexts. Did they release the entirety of

656
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Speaker 4: the text surrounding the ones from yesterday, which were the

657
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Speaker 4: original text in his In Shannon Sharp's statement, the audio

658
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Speaker 4: is very clear of the situation.

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Speaker 2: It speaks for itself.

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Speaker 8: So I know one thing, if you're fifty four, you

661
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Speaker 8: have no reason to be talking to a nineteen year old.

662
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Speaker 8: She's twenty two. Now Shannon is fifty six. I'm so

663
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Speaker 8: glad that audio monique went viral yesterday because it's true

664
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 8: sit your old down and go find somebody your age

665
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Speaker 8: and build a family with them. As I said yesterday, men,

666
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 8: we need stability and we need D discipline, Right.

667
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 6: You gotta have D discipline.

668
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 7: But if he does not want because some people don't

669
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 7: want families, they're not built for that, just try somebody

670
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Speaker 7: in age bracket.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's it, because he apparently he already tried that,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the family thing or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he just needs somebody his age.

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Speaker 6: Has she seen all seasons of a wire?

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Speaker 2: Excuse me?

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Speaker 3: She didn't.

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Speaker 6: Does she know any scarface albums?

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Speaker 9: You don't even know what the hell it is? What

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Speaker 9: it is mean? She said, what does that even mean?

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Speaker 13: Like she said that, like that.

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Speaker 9: Would have made me head up in black ten years

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Speaker 9: old than me.

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Speaker 6: I got a six teen yearld daughter. I can't even

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Speaker 6: imagine having that conversation.

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Speaker 9: You know what, you know, I have a twenty three

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Speaker 9: year old daughter.

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Speaker 6: Like that's crazy.

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Speaker 7: And this girl looks young, she looks she looks like

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Speaker 7: she's on campus at University of Miami or like she

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Speaker 7: looks young young.

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Speaker 4: Well, we got to wrap up. We did have the

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Speaker 4: money audio, but we do have to wrap up. So

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, this is all the updates so far

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Speaker 4: in this situation. And I will say too, they said

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Speaker 4: that they were surprised that they were in the middle

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Speaker 4: of the mediation and then the lawsuit dropped, So I

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Speaker 4: don't know if that's why they're responding so frantically and

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Speaker 4: not making sense about their responses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so any.

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Speaker 7: Conclusion and middle of mediation to put out a press

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Speaker 7: release that ye're looking to sign a deal for one

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Speaker 7: hundred million dollars, but not because if I'm in the

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Speaker 7: middle of mediation, I hear you about to sign a

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Speaker 7: one hundred million dollars deal.

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Speaker 9: What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna pull out and wait for you get

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Speaker 3: that deal, and I'm gonna ask for more money.

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Speaker 8: If that's the case, I have not seen a team

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Speaker 8: handle something so poorly in a long time.

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Speaker 6: The wish Shannon and his team are hands crazy.

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Speaker 7: All right, All right, well, thank you for the ladies

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Speaker 7: with Laura. Now when we come back, we got front

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Speaker 7: page news. Mimi will be joining us, Morgan's out, and

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Speaker 6: It's the breakfast Club.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, You're checking out the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's teach Envy just hilarious.

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Speaker 7: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Let's get

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Speaker 7: in some front page news. Got up with some quick sports.

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Speaker 7: Lacers beat the timber Wolves. He tied the series last night,

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Speaker 6: What's up to me?

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Speaker 10: What's up y'all?

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Speaker 11: All right, well, let's start in Florida where GOP rep

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Speaker 11: Byron Donald's got an earful at a town hall earlier

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Speaker 11: this week. The crowd wasn't shy about pressing him on

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Speaker 11: the Trump administration and its controversial plans for the.

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Speaker 10: Department of Government efficiency.

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Speaker 11: He was asked, as a member of the Oversight Committee,

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Speaker 11: what oversights was he proposing on Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

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Speaker 10: Let's hear what he had to say.

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Speaker 9: I love how everybody shouting at meat.

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Speaker 6: The black guy on Stags with Michael Bonner said saying,

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Speaker 6: how do.

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Speaker 13: You reading this day?

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Speaker 5: Don't wife?

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Speaker 9: And what I don't do that? Don't Mark, don't do that?

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Speaker 13: Buns.

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Speaker 11: So that was his response to the crowd asked him

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Speaker 11: about Dee I and about his pushback.

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Speaker 10: So he pushed back and told.

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Speaker 11: The crowd that as a black man, don't talk to

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Speaker 11: him about diversity, equity, and inclusion. But then when he

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Speaker 11: was he was talking about Elon Musk and Donald Trump,

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Speaker 11: the crowd had some booze and some other things.

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Speaker 10: So let's hear what he had to say about that.

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Speaker 6: The direction of the President of the United States.

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Speaker 16: If you were talking about what Overside is doing, we

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Speaker 16: actually left the Those.

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Speaker 13: Committee.

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Speaker 3: The Those Department actually finishes work.

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Speaker 13: What they are examining right now is an deficiency in

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Speaker 13: a federal assistant. This is something that President we wanted

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Speaker 13: to do with President.

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Speaker 10: So therefore he was not The crowd wasn't happy during

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Speaker 10: this town hall. They were trying to get Byron.

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Speaker 11: To answer questions about Doge, about the Trump administration, and

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Speaker 11: the crowd in Florida, of all places, they really gave

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Speaker 11: him a hard time. Dozens of people left after voicing

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Speaker 11: their frustration with his answer. Now, Donald's is also running

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Speaker 11: for governor of Florida in next year's election.

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Speaker 8: Listen, maybe people are out here hurting. So if the

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Speaker 8: economy is bad, people are gonna be mad. And if

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Speaker 8: you voted for Trump or you endorsed Trump. Like you know,

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Speaker 8: Byron Donalds did, people are going to hold you accountable

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Speaker 8: like that pain they're feeling in their pocket. They're gonna

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Speaker 8: project that pain onto you.

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Speaker 9: So you got it.

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Speaker 6: You know, Byron got to stay in ten told now

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Speaker 6: on his decision.

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Speaker 10: And he's the face of it right now. So if

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Speaker 10: you're holding a town meeting, you are the face of

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Speaker 10: their frustration.

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Speaker 11: So and speaking of abdulgent Elon Musk, Elon Mus said

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Speaker 11: he will take a step back from his work as

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Speaker 11: leader of the Department of Government Efficiency.

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Speaker 10: He made the announcement on a call with investors yesterday.

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Speaker 11: He said he will continue to spend a day or

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Speaker 11: two per week on government issues for as long as

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Speaker 11: the president will have him.

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Speaker 10: But this announcement comes after a tough year for Tesla.

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Speaker 11: The company's stock is down forty percent this year, and

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Speaker 11: earlier this week, it warned investors about the biggest drop

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Speaker 11: in sales history revenue for the first quarter, it fell

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Speaker 11: seventy one percent compared to the same time of last year.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if that's gonna I don't think that's gonna

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Speaker 6: work for Elon.

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Speaker 8: And the reason I don't think that's gonna work for

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Speaker 8: Elon is because he has chosen a side.

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Speaker 6: He's chosen a political worldview.

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Speaker 8: So the only thing, only way I think it's gonna

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Speaker 8: work for Testla if he steps down.

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Speaker 6: Period.

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Speaker 7: Definitely, he's definitely going have to step downcause people don't

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Speaker 7: want to drive Teslas anymore, and not necessarily because it's

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Speaker 7: not a good call, because it's actually a really good vehicle.

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Speaker 6: Because of Elon and his politics.

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Speaker 7: But not only that, but when I'm driving around the

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Speaker 7: city and people are smearing dog poop on your car,

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Speaker 7: or it's because politics, they're giving your middle fingers, they're

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Speaker 7: flattening your tires.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to deal with because of and his politics?

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Speaker 3: So it's like, no, I don't want to deal with it.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not gonna buy a Tesla When you got

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Speaker 7: people that's that's protesting outside of teslas, I don't want

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Speaker 7: to pull up there. If I drive one, I know

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna face consequences if I leave it on the street.

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Speaker 8: We've loft this job because of els went in there

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Speaker 8: and slashed all those federal jobs. So when they see

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Speaker 8: those Teslas, the same thing with bids that Tesla represents,

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Speaker 8: Elon must correct so yes, the Elon Muskin is politics.

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Speaker 8: The only way things going to bounce back to the

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Speaker 6: Agree with Teria.

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 11: So President Trump's hiss approval rating it is dipping. It

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Speaker 10: This is according to a new Reuter's pull.

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Speaker 11: The drop comes after more Americans express concern over his

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Speaker 10: Three out of four respondents said Trump should not seek

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Speaker 11: Something that is that the constitution bars, but he's been

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Speaker 5: self awareness, all the things whatever we're looking for when

895
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 5: it comes time to grow, it's like, ultimately we're looking

896
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 5: to be the embodiment of our authentic self, to get

897
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 5: past the performance of like who we say we are

898
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 5: and actually get to the core. And then all of

899
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 5: being alive is to have grief a part of that.

900
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: You know, every day there grief, and whether it's losing someone,

901
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 5: which I'm sure all of us have or will because

902
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 5: that's what it is to be here, or it's you know,

903
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 5: the daily grief of bearing witness to everything that's happening.

904
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 5: Finding a way to embrace that grief is a part

905
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 5: of what it is to be human is I think

906
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 5: a really powerful shift in our growth and then walking

907
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 5: a path of self mastery, like looking to always not

908
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: necessarily like be better or prove things, but to just

909
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 5: deepen in what you already are, like Mastery isn't perfection.

910
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: Mastery is like the slow process of excellence of self,

911
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 5: you know, and only we kind of know what that

912
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 5: process is inside.

913
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 7: I want to go back for people that don't know

914
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 7: Debbie's been here a long time ago. But for people

915
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 7: that don't know who Debbie Brown is, I want to

916
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 7: start from the beginning. If you don't know, Debbie was

917
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 7: a successful radio personality, one of the media personalities, and

918
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 7: at the top of her game decided she didn't want

919
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 7: to do it anymore. It wasn't like she was pushed out.

920
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 7: It wasn't like she had bad ratings. She just said,

921
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 7: you know what, I don't want to do it anymore.

922
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: Top of a game.

923
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 7: Uh, And then she started going on this healing journey

924
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 7: that Debbie was out in the clubs. She might have

925
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 7: got into a brawl tool, but we're not going to

926
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 7: go there. I'm talking about no idea Debbie Brown, and

927
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 7: I don't unders.

928
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 6: That it was done.

929
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 7: It was just this is a healing journey. So I

930
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 7: want to a rebirth of rebirth. I want to go

931
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 7: to for people that don't know what made you say,

932
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 7: you know what? This industry is not for me. I

933
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 7: want to give this up. You were doing radio, you

934
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 7: were doing different markets, you just had a baby and

935
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 7: just said it's.

936
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: At the top of your game. How did you go

937
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: from a woman in radio to just like, no, I'm

938
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: done with it.

939
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: First of all, I just have to say, and y'all

940
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 5: know this, Like, to me, radio is one of the

941
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 5: most incredible sacred ways to broadcast, because like you're really

942
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 5: in someone's head and body when you talk right like

943
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 5: they connect to you with their whole being. It's I've

944
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 5: always found it to be like a sacred responsibility that

945
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 5: makes you good at like everything else. I realized that

946
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 5: my purpose was evolving, and I realized that a lot

947
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 5: of the skills that I was amassing, like communication, connecting

948
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 5: with people, building community, I just kept getting very very

949
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 5: clear direction from God that I was meant to do

950
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 5: it differently and use it differently. And I felt like

951
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 5: I personally was going through so much Like while I

952
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 5: was still on the radio for many years, I was

953
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 5: like kind of secretly quietly getting certifications and like meditation

954
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 5: and breath work and spiritual psychology, like it was such

955
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: a huge part of my off the air life. And

956
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 5: I felt like, at least at that time because I

957
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 5: left the industry maybe almost ten years ago. At that time,

958
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 5: there was no blending of the two, you know, And

959
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 5: I was having situations where I was having wanting to

960
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 5: have these deeper layered conversations, and you know, I was

961
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 5: being told by the people I worked with, like, no

962
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 5: one wants to hear that. Like now we can't run

963
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 5: that on the air, Like ask more questions about dating,

964
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 5: ask questions about beef fast, you know, and for whatever reasons,

965
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 5: it's like what I had to give and what I

966
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 5: felt God wanted me to give, it was not valued

967
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: at the time.

968
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 7: But you're so ahead of your time and now it's okay.

969
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 7: Now people are vulnerable. Would you see yourself coming back

970
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 7: to doing radio. I love radio because you were so

971
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 7: ahead of your time. Now we have those conversations and

972
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 7: it's not even the thing we talk about that people

973
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 7: are vulnerable.

974
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: It seems normal almost.

975
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 6: She got the Deeply Well podcast.

976
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, Black Effect Network.

977
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 13: Yes.

978
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 8: And you know the interesting thing about Dev and I

979
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 8: want people to notice, like I met Dev and I

980
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 8: think O seven oh seven O eight the person Dev

981
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 8: is now she's always been. This is just to me

982
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 8: an evolution of who you've always been. You've always been

983
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 8: the same one in the room, you know, the one

984
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 8: in the room that people can go to for sound advice,

985
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 8: the leader in the room saying, hey, let's go do this.

986
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 6: We should be doing this. Like I've always felt that

987
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 6: in you. I've always seen that.

988
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 2: Why you don't work here if you have order? She

989
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: was swayst co host for Oh No, I'm saying why

990
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: she don't work here at Fair east Side.

991
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 6: iHeart dog.

992
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 5: Y'all when it comes to healing the way y'all have

993
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 5: been healing in this room, I am just so impressed

994
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: and inspired. There have been some beautiful, transparent conversations.

995
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, but you I love the chapter fifteen because we're

996
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 8: talking about that in a way healing accept.

997
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, talk why that's important that you have to healing

998
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 6: and accept.

999
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 5: You know, this is the thing about healing, right. And

1000
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 5: I've worked in wellness and well being for over a

1001
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 5: decade now, and I work with clients directly, I do workshops,

1002
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 5: I run retreats. I've had a lot of access to

1003
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 5: studies and data all around healing, around trauma, around all

1004
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 5: of it. And I found, you know, from my own

1005
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 5: journey and with others, it's like there's this misconception that

1006
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 5: you work on yourself to eventually be rid of everything

1007
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 5: that's ever happened to you, and that then your life

1008
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 5: will be perfect. That you'll go to therapy, that you'll

1009
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: do somatic exercises, that you'll meditate, and then one day

1010
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: you're going to just like everything in life is going

1011
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 5: to feel so happy. That's not God's design, right, Like,

1012
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 5: no feeling is more holy than the other. God wants

1013
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 5: us to know and experience and feel in real time

1014
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 5: everything that crosses our path. And that means grief, that

1015
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 5: means joy, that means you know, jealousy sometimes anger that

1016
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 5: means fear. It's like all of it is part of

1017
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 5: the human experience, and so when it comes to healing

1018
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 5: a huge part of it is also accepting that the

1019
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 5: past can't change. For some of us, that can feel heartbreaking, right,

1020
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: Like a lot of things have happened to so many

1021
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 5: of us, so hundreds of millions in your life that

1022
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 5: didn't get your consent. Maybe that you've never uttered aloud,

1023
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 5: you know. Sometimes we carry things and we're thinking about

1024
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: and ruminating and thought our whole life about the things

1025
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 5: that have hurt us. And I think it's important for

1026
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 5: people to know. It doesn't mean you're broken or deficient

1027
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 5: or not healed because you still remember those things. It's

1028
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 5: really about changing the way you relate to them. Some

1029
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 5: things will absolutely never change, but when heal, it really

1030
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 5: gets transmitted into wisdom where it doesn't feel like this hard, full,

1031
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 5: painful charge inside of your body. Every time that memory

1032
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 5: comes up, you're able to kind of look at it

1033
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: from an observer's standpoint and be like, that happened, and

1034
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 5: that really hurt, and God, that was hard. And I

1035
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 5: have respect for what I've been through. I have self

1036
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 5: respect for who I am and what I've moved myself through.

1037
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: Hi, we got more with Debbie Brown when we come back.

1038
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 7: Her new book, A Living in Wisdom, A Path to

1039
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 7: Embodying your authentic Self, embracing grief and developing self mastery,

1040
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 7: is out right now.

1041
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: We have more of home when we come back. It's

1042
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 3: the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning everybody.

1043
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 7: It's DJ Envy, just hilarious, Charlamagne, Na, God we are

1044
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 7: The Breakfast Club is still kicking it with Debbie Brown.

1045
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: Now, when you talk about working on yourself, what does

1046
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: that mean for people?

1047
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 6: Right?

1048
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 7: When people SA need to work on myself and then

1049
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 7: they come back ten hours later. I worked on myself.

1050
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 9: I'm healed.

1051
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm healing. So what does so for somebody out there

1052
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: that says, you know, I need to work on myself,

1053
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: what does that mean?

1054
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 5: God, that's such a good question. And like that I'm

1055
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: healed thing is so funny to me because people will

1056
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 5: go to one therapy session and be like, Oh, I

1057
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 5: did it, and it's like, actually, it takes eight to

1058
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 5: twelve therapy sessions to have like a real you know,

1059
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 5: cognitive breakthrough, or you know, you read one book and

1060
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, yeah, I do this because this happened

1061
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: to me and that's who I am. I think that's

1062
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: self awareness. But when you're looking to work on yourself

1063
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 5: to transcend your experiences, there's a difference. Like Instagram has

1064
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: given us so much language, a lot of people are

1065
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 5: using it to manipulate.

1066
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 15: Now.

1067
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 3: I hate the language when it's used the wrong way.

1068
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: I hate it.

1069
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: I know, like it bothers the ish out of me.

1070
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it drives me nuts because it's dangerous. Like to

1071
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 5: be clear, it's dangerous people using certain mental health language

1072
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 5: that haven't done the work, that don't know the work.

1073
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 5: It's a manipulation tactic. It can be very harmful for people,

1074
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 5: can be very narcissistic. None of those things are like devoid.

1075
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 5: In the spiritual or the mental health space, all that

1076
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 5: same stuff still exists. But when it comes to like

1077
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 5: working on yourself, I think at the base level, it's

1078
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 5: noticing how do you feel when it's just you with you,

1079
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 5: If there is anything inside of you that feels unmet, unexpressed, unheard,

1080
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 5: If there's anything inside of you where you feel anxiety,

1081
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 5: there is a charge in your chest, or there is

1082
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 5: a rejection or a cringe. Those are things to notice

1083
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 5: because it's information that maybe something wants to rise to

1084
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: the surface for your review. And I think when we're

1085
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 5: working on ourselves, it's really about being willing to look

1086
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 5: at the truth.

1087
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 16: Of what is.

1088
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be perceived as positive or negative,

1089
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 5: it's just what is true right now, and then being

1090
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 5: honest with yourself about it.

1091
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 7: Well, talk about some of the mental health and mental

1092
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 7: health things that you've been talking about that I feel

1093
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 7: have been commercialized to a point where people are using

1094
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 7: these terms but they don't really mean it right, So.

1095
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 6: Talk about that a little about to make dev go off?

1096
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 7: Now, Yeah, no, I want to talk about it, you know,

1097
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 7: because it really bothers me because I hear people using

1098
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 7: these terms, and I'm sure they don't even know what

1099
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 7: these terms mean, right, Like you say, somebody, you just

1100
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 7: gas lit me, And I feel like sometimes it actually

1101
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 7: stops a conversation because sometimes when people hear those words,

1102
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 7: they automatically say, oh, I ain't that I'm not talking

1103
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 7: about that, especially in a workplace where you can't have

1104
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 7: a normal conversation if somebody says something, because now when

1105
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 7: you hear those terms, that also comes after human resources,

1106
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

1107
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah, I mean there's just so much, and I

1108
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 5: think people should really do like a lot of deeper

1109
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 5: layers of research, right Like I think the Internet is

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00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 5: phenomenal in that the last five years, our consciousness has

1111
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 5: raised so much since the pandemic because we have had

1112
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Speaker 5: access to understand Hey, a lot of people have experienced trauma,

1113
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: or a lot of people have experienced life frictions or

1114
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 5: you know, deeply challenging relationships. But everyone is stopping at

1115
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 5: like one graphic, right Like they're stopping at reading one

1116
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 5: thing or asking chat GPT one question and then they

1117
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: leave it there, you know, and it's like, so I

1118
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Speaker 5: think a lot of terms like understanding, like a lot

1119
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 5: of people are overusing the term like narcissist or narcissism right,

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Speaker 5: not getting your way with someone or someone kind of

1121
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 5: even being self focused, Like every single person alive has

1122
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 5: some layer of narcissistic behavior. That's part of like the

1123
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 5: human expression too, it's some self focus. But narcissistic abuse

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Speaker 5: is something entirely different. And those that have experienced understand,

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Speaker 5: like you get CPTSD from it, You get PTSD from it,

1126
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 5: you have changes in your body, your health decreases, like

1127
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 5: it is a psychological warfare that is insidious and can

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Speaker 5: dramatically change the trajectory of your life. Now, if that

1129
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 5: level of feeling isn't really happening to you, it may

1130
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 5: not be narcissistic abuse, you know. And so I think

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00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 5: we just need to go deeper into the layers of

1132
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: the things that we're learning. And I will say people

1133
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 5: that misuse language or use it as tools of avoidance

1134
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 5: typically those are the people that usually are on the

1135
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 5: other side and fit the other kind of definitions for

1136
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Speaker 5: those things.

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Speaker 8: One thing you told me one time that makes so

1138
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 8: much sense, And I love the fact that you give

1139
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 8: so many actual examples of how to.

1140
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 6: Do it in the book.

1141
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Speaker 8: You told me that when it comes to the language,

1142
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 8: you can have the language and know what it is

1143
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 8: you're dealing with. But a lot of people avoid the

1144
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 8: actual healing, the healing work. So if you read the book,

1145
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 8: there's a lot of different exercises that can walk you

1146
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 8: through that actual healing process.

1147
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 6: Why do you think, you know, people forget the healing

1148
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 6: part once.

1149
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 5: They go to therapy because it's hard, you know, And

1150
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 5: I think it and that's the thing that I really

1151
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 5: speak to very clearly in my book. It's like, all

1152
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 5: of this is hard. There is no tip or trick

1153
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 5: to heal from challenging experiences, right, Like, I'm not going

1154
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 5: to tell you, all right, do this five minutes every day. Yes,

1155
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 5: five minutes every day will build your capacity, but you

1156
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 5: need to stretch past the five minutes to devote actual

1157
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 5: real time to the changes you want to see in

1158
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 5: your life. And so, you know, something I talk about

1159
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 5: in the book is like, there's a huge difference between

1160
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 5: having self awareness and having higher consciousness or being embodied

1161
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 5: in your self awareness. Self awareness is having the terms.

1162
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 5: It's going to a couple therapy sessions perhaps or reading

1163
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 5: a bunch of self help books and saying like this

1164
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 5: is what happened, and this is why I act like this,

1165
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 5: and this is why this is this. But it doesn't

1166
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 5: mean you're changing any of it, right, Like, it doesn't

1167
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 5: mean you're taking it to the next step to behave

1168
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 5: differently or to invite in different experiences with people. And

1169
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 5: that comes through practice, that comes through process. And so

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00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 5: in this book I talk about a lot like how

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00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 5: to Get out of your Way. A lot of people

1172
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 5: have a lot of sophisticated language around avoiding themselves. You

1173
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 5: can avoid yourself with anything. You can avoid yourself with therapy.

1174
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 5: You're seeing the same therapist for ten years, and nothing

1175
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 5: in your life changes what's going on in there, you know,

1176
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 5: or you know, I see a lot of people avoid

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Speaker 5: themselves with religion. You can be a part of a church,

1178
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 5: you can go there on Sundays and you can still

1179
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 5: not know God, you can still not make better choices. Right.

1180
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Speaker 5: It is daily practice. It is showing up in your

1181
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 5: interpersonal relationships. It is having the hard conversations in real

1182
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 5: time as they come up, and just being present with

1183
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 5: all of it without expectation. You know, without trying to

1184
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 5: control it or make it go your way. And so

1185
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Speaker 5: in the book, we have a lot of practices like

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Speaker 5: I teach meditation in the book, we work with mutras

1187
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 5: in the book, which are hand positions that can really

1188
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 5: elevate your meditation practice because your hand positions open different

1189
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 5: energy channels in your body. There is breath work that

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00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 5: can be done in the book, and every single one

1191
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 5: of those practices anchors in the changes that you want

1192
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 5: to experience because it shows you how to regulate when

1193
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 5: you do get triggered, when you do have charge, and

1194
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 5: so both are needed. You have to have the cognitive

1195
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 5: and you have to have the somatic. You have to

1196
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 5: have the spiritual, you have to have the physical. All

1197
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 5: of it kind of beautiful goes together.

1198
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Speaker 3: Hi, We have more with dev Brown when we come back.

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Speaker 7: A new book, Living in Wisdom, a Path to embody

1200
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 7: and your authentic self, embracing grief and developing self mastery

1201
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 7: is out right now.

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Speaker 6: We'll be back as the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 7: Good morning and warning everybody is the ej Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne,

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00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 7: the God we are to Breakfast Club is still kicking

1205
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 7: it with deVie Brown, Charlamagne.

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Speaker 6: Why is meditation is so important?

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Speaker 13: Oh my god?

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Speaker 5: You know, and I think in some other maybe wisdom traditions,

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Speaker 5: some people might relate to it if you call it

1210
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 5: reflection or if you call it moments for contemplation, But

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Speaker 5: meditation is the master healer because it gets you out

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00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 5: of your identity. And our identity is almost one hundred

1213
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Speaker 5: percent made from like all of the culturally created beliefs

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Speaker 5: that we have, or our beliefs from our family of origin,

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00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 5: or you know, the things that we're influenced by via society.

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Speaker 5: And so when you're able to get out of all

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Speaker 5: those extra layers of like what your titles are, you know,

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00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: what the role you play. I'm a husband, I'm a wife,

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00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 5: I'm a someone's child, brother, sister, friend. When you take

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00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 5: yourself out of all of that, you actually get to glimpse,

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Speaker 5: like what am I designed to be? What was God's

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00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 5: intention for me of me before I fit into anybody's

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Speaker 5: box or any relationship. And so the thing about meditation,

1224
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Speaker 5: and I really want to share this, you know, I

1225
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 5: believe in trauma informed practice, and it's a little bit

1226
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 5: different to hold that space within the healing community than

1227
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 5: if you're not. It's recognizing that a lot of people

1228
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 5: will have barriers to almost every healing modality that comes

1229
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 5: up because of some of the things that they may

1230
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 5: have experienced. So in meditation, you're going through so many layers,

1231
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 5: and the first time you try, the first several times

1232
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 5: you try, it could be so hard and frustrating and

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Speaker 5: anger inducing and irritating to sit down and be still,

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Speaker 5: and it could bring up everything and make you feel

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Speaker 5: like you're failing at it, and then you want to

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00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 5: stop and then let me go do things I'm actually

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00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 5: good at.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 2: That is literally me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is I feel like I'm missing out on

1241
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: doing something, or I can be doing this with this time,

1242
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: or it's not working. It's like, so I grow to

1243
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: be frustrated when I try to meditate. Man, so I

1244
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: just need smoking and that. Yeah, well I mean that too.

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Speaker 5: Smoking to meditate is like a great little collaboration and

1246
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 5: yoga and stretching. But I'm so glad you said that

1247
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 5: because I think that is almost everyone's response, but especially

1248
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 5: if you have been through hard things. And what I

1249
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 5: want everyone to know is that phase passes, and that's

1250
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 5: part of what doing the work is, right. It's being

1251
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 5: patient with yourself and witnessing yourself, especially when you don't

1252
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 5: want to do it and it's saying like God, I'm

1253
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 5: sitting here and I hate this, this is stupid. I

1254
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 5: don't want to do this. Breathe, breathe, Okay, Okay, we'll

1255
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 5: release open your body like you start meeting those feelings

1256
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 5: with things that harmonize that experience for you. But eventually

1257
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 5: the level you're aiming for is like higher and higher consciousness.

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Speaker 5: Higher consciousness means a greater ability to be what you

1259
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 5: are designed to be on earth and to also extend

1260
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 5: love and goodwill and compassion and power and influence to

1261
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Speaker 5: others for the higher good of all concerned.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: You also, you dedicated your book and I'm probably gonna

1264
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Speaker 8: pronounce her name wrong to my Hascal May Haskell May Haskal,

1265
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 8: And I didn't know who that was until I went

1266
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 8: to go look it up. And she was a young

1267
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 8: woman who was dismembered and encino. What made you want

1268
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Speaker 8: to dedicate the book to her? And you said, I

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Speaker 8: pray you are free.

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Speaker 5: I have to be really careful talking about this because

1271
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Speaker 5: the trial hasn't begun yet.

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Speaker 6: Gotcha.

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Speaker 5: She was a beautiful woman. I had the privilege and

1274
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 5: the pleasure of meeting when my son started kindergarten and

1275
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 5: our boys were friends. And so my son is in

1276
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 5: first grade. So this just happened last year. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure the parents listening, Like, when your kids are

1278
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 5: in kinder like, you're still very connected to the other families,

1279
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 5: right because the kids can't communicate on their own, So

1280
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 5: you're creating the play dates. You guys are getting together

1281
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 5: for all the birthday parties, like you are seeing each

1282
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 5: other almost seven days a week. She was the mother

1283
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 5: of this sweet, beautiful little boy that was in class

1284
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 5: with my son and two other sons. And her husband

1285
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 5: is currently incarcerated for allegedly murdering her and her parents.

1286
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 5: And her body was completely dismembered. Her head was taken,

1287
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 5: her limbs were taken and not recovered. Her parents were dismembered,

1288
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Speaker 5: and then their bodies were dispersed in the trash cans

1289
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 5: in my neighborhood. There are whorors in this world.

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Speaker 19: You know.

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Speaker 5: I dedicated my book to her for so many reasons,

1292
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 5: but it's really just like if someone takes your whole family,

1293
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 5: who remembers you, you know, like I want wanted to

1294
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 5: just honor the fact that she was here, that she

1295
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 5: was alive, and that I will be thinking about her

1296
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Speaker 5: every day of my life.

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Speaker 7: Living in wisdom, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, Debbie Brown is

1298
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Speaker 7: out today. I got a lot more questions. I just

1299
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Speaker 7: don't know where I do.

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Speaker 6: Well, okay, Wosa, Yeah? Does everybody need to have a purpose.

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Speaker 5: I think everybody does have a purpose. I think what

1302
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 5: we get wrong is that purpose has to be quantified

1303
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 5: by something, or that it has to make money, you know.

1304
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Speaker 5: I think, just like so many words are being appropriated

1305
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Speaker 5: right now within mental health, I think other words are

1306
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 5: being used for performance, for really self validation sometimes or ego.

1307
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 5: Right like you hear people, well my purpose is this

1308
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 5: or you know what's my purpose? And it's just another

1309
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 5: thing that you are kind of mispouring yourself into. Purpose,

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Speaker 5: in my belief, is simply your lived experience and the

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Speaker 5: wisdom you've bleaned from it. It's the skills you've amassed

1312
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Speaker 5: in any and everything you could have ever done. It's

1313
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 5: your innate gifts, you know, the things that you have

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Speaker 5: that God gave you, and it's then using it to serve,

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Speaker 5: putting it back into service for others and so you know,

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Speaker 5: it's like I could say my purpose is talking, right,

1317
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Speaker 5: because I was a broadcaster for years, I lead meditation,

1318
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 5: I communicate all the things. But really, like I look

1319
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 5: at my purpose as like being able to be in

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Speaker 5: darkness with people. You know, I think my life's greatest

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Speaker 5: purpose is the fact that, like I'm not afraid of

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Speaker 5: the dark and I can be in darker moments and

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Speaker 5: not recoil with other people, that I can hold space

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Speaker 5: for that. And I think, you know, that may not

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Speaker 5: be the most glorious purpose. It's not the thing that's

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Speaker 5: maybe going to land me on a billboard, but it's

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Speaker 5: the thing that, like God trained me for. It's the

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Speaker 5: thing that my life has bloomed into.

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Speaker 18: And I love it.

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Speaker 6: I love that. I love how you break that down.

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Speaker 1: And also you spoke to how people over use words

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Speaker 1: because half the time people don't even know how to

1333
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Speaker 1: answer that question, well, what is your purpose?

1334
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: Like me, I still don't know what my purpose is.

1335
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm grateful for the woman that I'm becoming

1336
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: in my spiritual growth and everything, but I still don't

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Speaker 1: know what my purpose is.

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Speaker 2: And what if it's not just one thing, you know

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Speaker 2: what I meaningly.

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing.

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 9: It's not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not, you know, and like it's okay.

1343
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Speaker 5: If finding your purpose takes your whole life, Yes, it's

1344
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: the point of being alive. Like why do we think

1345
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 5: we have to move so quickly through everything? That's the

1346
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 5: validation piece, right, Like that's the wanting to be seen

1347
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 5: in it or celebrated for it. But like if it's

1348
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 5: your life's work, it is supposed to take your whole life.

1349
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

1350
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: Because my mother in law, my husband's mother, she literally

1351
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: just told me she just found out where her purpose is,

1352
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: and that is to take care of like to oversee

1353
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: her granddaughter. I just gave her a beautiful granddaughter, her

1354
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: very first grandchild. And that's what she said, holding a

1355
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: baby like a few months ago. Oh, I know what

1356
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: my purpose is now is to be here with my

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00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: family and to take care of my family. Because she

1358
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: was living out the country for decades.

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Speaker 9: That him, that's him. You started.

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Speaker 2: This moment, don't They're trying to say, I try to

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Speaker 2: she came, don't have nothing, She came over here to

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Speaker 2: take care of my child. Every day they joke about

1363
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: her being Yes, literally, you know.

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Speaker 5: Man, I understand the friction in this room. I get

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Speaker 6: You already know I love you to death.

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Speaker 6: Remember her knocking nobody up? That never happened. We have

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Speaker 6: to get back to that.

1379
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Speaker 3: Give each other grace, even the oldest.

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Speaker 8: and developing self mastery.

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Speaker 6: Yes, flu to Debbie. All right, we are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 6: Let's get to the Latest with.

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Speaker 3: Lauren be coming straight fast.

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Speaker 9: She gets them from somebody that knows somebody detail.

1389
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Speaker 2: I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

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Speaker 6: She'd be having the latest on you.

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Speaker 19: Sometimes you have.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit

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Speaker 8: of every time, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 4: So Mss Tina Knowles revealed and sit down exclusively with

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Speaker 4: People magazine that she'd actually been battling and she's now

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Speaker 4: cancer free, stage one breast cancer.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a while.

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Speaker 20: I'm doing great, cancer free, feeling great, and just feeling

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01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 20: very incredibly blessed that, you know, God allowed me to

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Speaker 20: find that early.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 21: I struggle with whether I would share that journey because

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Speaker 21: I'm very private, but I decided to share it because

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Speaker 21: I think it's a lot of lessons in it for

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Speaker 21: other women. I wanted to make sure that they knew

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Speaker 21: how important it is not to slack on your mammograms

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Speaker 21: because you don't have to let this. I mean you,

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Speaker 21: we can ah catch cancer at stage one, it's even

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Speaker 21: stage zero. I didn't know that there was a stage zero.

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Speaker 21: I could have caught this at stage zero if I

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Speaker 21: had not missed my mammogram, but I did because of

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Speaker 21: COVID and as a result, it was stage one.

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Speaker 5: It could have been stage zero.

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Speaker 3: So you have to go get your mammograms.

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Speaker 6: Well, God bless Unless you was able to catch it

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Speaker 6: early man.

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Speaker 7: And I love to hear when when people talk about

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Speaker 7: their journey right, because sometimes people forget or they don't

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Speaker 7: talk about it enough, like, yeah, missed us, but she

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Speaker 7: was able to catch us four years later. Even with

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Speaker 7: Charlemage myself talking about colonoscopies. People need to go to

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Speaker 7: the doctor. You need to get checked out because you

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Speaker 7: need to catch it before it gets worse, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I remember there used to be like an age

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Speaker 1: requirement for you used to have to wait to your

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Speaker 1: forty to get a mammogram.

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Speaker 2: Now you can get it like in your twenties.

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Speaker 8: And I'm sure if you've got a history in your family,

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Speaker 8: they probably encourage you to go get it earlier.

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Speaker 2: So I definitely encourage and there's a young woman to

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Speaker 2: get them too.

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Speaker 3: There another way. I thought there was another way of

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Speaker 3: doing a mammogram. I know there's one way.

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Speaker 6: The women actually splashed down. Yeah, but then there's another

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Speaker 6: way to show us you don't even.

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Speaker 2: Have I wish there was another way though, like they

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Speaker 2: didn't have to like they have all the stuff. Yeah,

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01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: maybe he was holding here.

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Speaker 22: I was.

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Speaker 6: That was awkward, you know, just want to put it

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Speaker 6: in the machine or they keep it all awake when

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Speaker 6: they do that. So it's not like.

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Speaker 2: They said herts is painful her, Yes, it is painful.

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Speaker 6: Did knock you out? You're like, we're awake, but like.

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Speaker 2: They like put pressure, they knock you off, put.

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Speaker 6: You to sleep. Lets you unless you want to be awake,

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Speaker 6: have to sleep?

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Speaker 13: Was quick?

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Speaker 3: You know they put you to sleep.

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Speaker 6: You knocked out?

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's over my physical today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: I cannot say that.

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Speaker 6: I can say that talking about prostate exams, but you.

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Speaker 9: Can't say that ridiculous. But I'm going today.

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Speaker 1: I know you.

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Speaker 9: Just want to be texted.

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Speaker 2: Went through? Why is having to.

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Speaker 9: That's the case?

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Speaker 4: Well, she's so, Miss Sena knows is promoting her book Matriarch,

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Speaker 4: So she has been talking or releasing a lot of

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Speaker 4: the you know, different exscerpts from the book. And in

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Speaker 4: one of the the passages, she actually talks about uh,

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Speaker 4: Beyonce and jay Z and how Beyonce chose to be

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Speaker 4: with jay Z because she says, at the time, Beyonce

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Speaker 4: was actually dating another guy and.

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Speaker 2: It was like really serious.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time she had started dating jay

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Speaker 4: Z and Beyonce came to her she was dating she

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Speaker 4: wasn't in a relationship.

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Speaker 2: She was just dating. And she came to Messina and.

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Speaker 4: Was like, I don't know what to do because at

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Speaker 4: this point, like the I think both the guys that

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Speaker 4: came into Houston, at one point, she was like, I

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Speaker 4: need to make a decision.

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Speaker 2: So Messina was like, well, how do you feel?

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01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 4: And she was like, I already knew what was jay

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Speaker 4: Z for her, and when they talked about it, it

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Speaker 4: was him, and that's where she decided to go. And

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Speaker 4: she was like, you know, they were young, just talking

1482
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 4: on the phone, barely getting to spend time with each other.

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Speaker 4: He would come and do dinner at her house because

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Speaker 4: they couldn't go anywhere for real, and that's how the

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Speaker 4: relationship developed early on. She also talked about y'all remember

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Speaker 4: back in twenty eleven, when Beyonce got pregnant with Blue Ivy.

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Speaker 2: People were saying that she didn't deliver the baby. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Miss Tina for the first.

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Speaker 4: Time talked publicly about how she felt going through all

1490
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Speaker 4: of that because she was told not to say anything.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, listen, I want to talk about saying and

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01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: the impact I had on a family. He said specifically

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Speaker 2: about just the room.

1494
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Speaker 21: Yeah, what was that like to hear people say the

1495
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 21: most horrendous things and to call my whole family a lie,

1496
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 21: you know, because we would all have to be part

1497
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 21: of that conspiracy and lie about something so sacred it was.

1498
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Speaker 21: It was one of the worst times in my life

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Speaker 21: because I couldn't say anything. My daughter was saying no,

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Speaker 21: because you're just gonna make the story bigger, so don't

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Speaker 21: say anything.

1502
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Speaker 3: It's gonna go away.

1503
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 21: But it didn't go away for a long time. And

1504
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 21: it's one of the most painful things for me to

1505
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 21: know that that people could just be that disgusting and

1506
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 21: people just get to lie and they don't have to

1507
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Speaker 21: suffer any consequences.

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Speaker 1: I knew Beyonce would be telling miss Taining like don't

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01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: say nothing, but just imagine being the mother having to

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01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: shut up and sit back and see because, like she said,

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Speaker 1: they will all have to be a part of it, right, Yeah,

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: And this is.

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Speaker 2: What this girl wanted. That's what she wanted for a

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Speaker 2: while a long time, and y'all talking about this fate.

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Speaker 4: She also got into details of like Beyonce and Jase's

1516
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: wedding and talked about how they had to do it

1517
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 4: so private because again they didn't want it to get out,

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01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 4: so they literally had to do it inside of a

1519
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 4: house and Miss Tina and Jay's mom cooked the food.

1520
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: Like everything had to be so private, so sacred.

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Speaker 4: She also, for the first time in this book, talks

1522
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 4: about her split from mister Matthews and let me make

1523
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 4: sure I get mister in there.

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1525
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 4: So she She says that they were married in nineteen

1526
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 4: eighty divorce in twenty eleven, but it was because he

1527
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 4: was a really, really horrible cheater. He actually had a

1528
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Speaker 4: baby within their marriage and that was like the last

1529
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 4: straw fold.

1530
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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She said that, like.

1532
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Speaker 4: Two thousand and nine is when he had the baby

1533
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 4: on her. But before that he would do some crazy

1534
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 4: things when they came to cheating, and she would take

1535
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 4: them back every time because she kind of just couldn't

1536
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 4: let it go. And then when that happened, she was like, Nah,

1537
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Speaker 4: I can't do this, and it actually thought about getting

1538
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 4: together at some point, but she was like, she knew

1539
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 4: that the girls would be upset at him.

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: He has other kids outside of Beyonce and Solange. Yeah, no,

1541
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: where that baby, the baby that he had, it's it's uh,

1542
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: it's a boy. I think it's his son.

1543
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 4: Let me look this up. He has side of Beyonce

1544
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 4: and Solan. She has Nixon, Alexander Knows and Cooy Michael Knows.

1545
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 2: So two kids, yes, two sons.

1546
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 6: You know Tina named Beyonce and Solange because them names

1547
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 6: sounded regular.

1548
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: Regular, right, Okay, yeah, yes, the matriarch is now out ye.

1549
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 4: And it's all about miss Tina's life and not just

1550
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 4: Beyonce and Solange and that, but really about her life,

1551
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,479
Speaker 4: her upbringing. She talks about, you know, watching her brother

1552
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 4: almost get killed by the cops at one point, and

1553
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 4: just yeah, it's a lot that you learned about her

1554
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 4: and watching her talk throughout the interviews too.

1555
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 7: Matthew Knows. Mister Matthew Knows is not doing any interviews

1556
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 7: anymore because he doesn't like when people talk about his

1557
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 7: personal life, like they put questions not to ask and

1558
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 7: how could you not ask these questions.

1559
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 3: When you know Tina Knowles talks about the Missina Knows.

1560
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: Talks about it and what else is we going to

1561
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: ask you?

1562
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 4: Well, I interviewed mister Matthew Knows about he He has

1563
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 4: a cancer company that he works with helps people find

1564
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 4: like help and aid when you're going through like cancer,

1565
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 4: and different things, and we had a very great conversation.

1566
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: Beyonce never came up and he was super nice.

1567
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 6: He wasn't allowed to ask about it.

1568
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: I didn't want to, you know, I.

1569
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 6: Was waiting.

1570
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all gonna let me just say I did

1571
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: want y'all know I wanted to, but he was.

1572
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 6: He was bragged about it, like it didn't come up

1573
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 6: once better not.

1574
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, John Cena. Get that it's John the birthday.

1575
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 6: He just broke the record too.

1576
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 8: He's I think he's he's been w W champion seventeen times,

1577
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 8: broke Flair's record.

1578
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeap, he follows me on Twitter. Isn't that right?

1579
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 9: Really?

1580
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: Johnsy Hey, y'all, I know that's right. You're having some

1581
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: of the most random like wait potential no, no, no

1582
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: like that, like what what?

1583
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 6: Don't get the days up?

1584
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 13: Next? Right?

1585
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 3: Yesterday?

1586
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 6: Who getting down too?

1587
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 13: Man?

1588
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 6: Before after that hour? We need the US Apartment of

1589
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 6: Education to come to the congregation. We'd like to have

1590
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 6: a word with him.

1591
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 3: Places all right, we'll get to that next.

1592
01:07:59,160 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 6: It's the breakfast club.

1593
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 9: If you're locked into the breakfast.

1594
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 22: Club, your execution on the donkey of the day is

1595
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 22: something to go for the reason they gave me donkey

1596
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 22: other day and I deserve that.

1597
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: You need to know, you need to tell them, I

1598
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 2: am you have tell them.

1599
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 6: It's time for donkey of the day.

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01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 9: It's a reed.

1601
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 6: But you're so good at Charlomagne.

1602
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 9: Want Charlomage as.

1603
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 6: Solomame?

1604
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 2: Who do you give a dusky the other day?

1605
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 13: Soon?

1606
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 16: Now?

1607
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 9: Well?

1608
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 8: Sexy red donkey today for Wednesday, April twenty third goes

1609
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 8: to the US Department of Education, who under the Trump

1610
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 8: administration announced on Monday that they will resume debt collections

1611
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 8: for federal student law and borrowers who have defaulted on

1612
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 8: their debts. So millions of borrows are at risk of

1613
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 8: having federal payments are portions of their salaries without in

1614
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 8: the coming months because the White House said it can

1615
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 8: and will take borrowers wages, pensions, and tax refunds.

1616
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 6: Let's go to KAA NBC five for the report Please.

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01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 23: Major whiplash for millions of federal student loan holders. For

1618
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 23: the first time in five years, the Department of Education

1619
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 23: will start collecting restart collecting, that is, federal student loans

1620
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 23: in default. Student loans go into default after two hundred

1621
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 23: and seventy days without any payment. The Trump administration said

1622
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 23: in a statement quote, there will not be any mass

1623
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 23: loan forgiveness.

1624
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 12: The Trump administration has announced we will put an end

1625
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 12: to Joe Biden's illegal loan bailout attempts.

1626
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 23: Loans have been on pause since March of twenty twenty

1627
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 23: because of COVID nineteen. The Biden and Harris administration even

1628
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 23: tried to cancel the debts.

1629
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 6: Of millions of borrowers.

1630
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 23: Now, the Trump administration says the previous administration did not

1631
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 23: have authority to cancel that debt, and it will start

1632
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 23: collections as soon as May.

1633
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 12: Fifth debt cannot be wiped away. It just ends up

1634
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 12: getting transferred to others. So why should Americans who didn't

1635
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 12: go to college or went to college responsibly paid back

1636
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 12: their loans pay for the student loans of other Americans.

1637
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 8: I didn't go to college, so I don't have student

1638
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 8: loan debt, so this won't impact me. But that doesn't

1639
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 8: mean I'm not gonna care about this, Okay. The reason

1640
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 8: I care about this is because I care about people,

1641
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 8: all right.

1642
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 6: Period. It doesn't matter what your financial situation is.

1643
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 8: If you live in a country where people are barely

1644
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 8: getting by, that is not gonna make for a pleasant society.

1645
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 8: Not to mention, working class people are a benefit to

1646
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 8: our business. Okay, working class people who are listening to this.

1647
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 8: They're the ones who listen to the show every day.

1648
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 3: Okay.

1649
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 6: They are the people who buy books, they come to

1650
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 6: the comedy shows.

1651
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 8: They'll spend their harder money to be at the Black

1652
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 8: Effect Podcast Festival they Saturday in Atlanta. And every working

1653
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 8: class person in this country should be able to pay

1654
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 8: their bills and have a little left over for recreation. Okay,

1655
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 8: they should have some money for leisure activities. And if

1656
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 8: you're voted for Donald Trump because he promised to make

1657
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 8: the economy better.

1658
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 6: You gotta be scratching your head right now. Okay.

1659
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 8: Donald Trump said he was gonna make the economy better

1660
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 8: on day one. What all he's done so far is

1661
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 8: cut federal programs that benefit working class people, put elon

1662
01:10:58,520 --> 01:10:59,440
Speaker 8: muskin charge.

1663
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 6: To fire a bunch of federal workers.

1664
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 8: This half assed trade war that's going on, that's hurting

1665
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 8: our wallets and four one K plans, and now the

1666
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 8: White House is bringing more pain than millions of Americans

1667
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 8: by restarting debt collection for student loan borrowers.

1668
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 6: Who have fallen into default.

1669
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 8: I hope that you all realize this is just politicians

1670
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 8: playing with the lives of people again. Right I was

1671
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 8: reading an op ed that Linda McMahon wrote in The

1672
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 8: Wall Street Journal, and she blamed the Biden administration and

1673
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 8: universities for making empty promises to students.

1674
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 6: While pocketing their loan dollars.

1675
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 8: She said, greedy colleges have profited massively from Biden era

1676
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 8: forgiveness measures. When I read that, I said to myself, Oh,

1677
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 8: the American people once again have to suffer because of

1678
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 8: this pissing contest between Democrats and Republicans.

1679
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 9: See.

1680
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 6: I hate when political parties do that.

1681
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 8: If Republicans do something that's good and benefit people, dim

1682
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 8: should let it stand. If Democrats do something that's good

1683
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 8: that benefits people, Republicans should let it stand. Linda McMahon

1684
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 8: said colleges profit massively from Biden era forgiveness loans. Well,

1685
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 8: there are plenty of corporations, institutions, and people in the

1686
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 8: Trump administration who profit massively from things y'all do too.

1687
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 8: I honestly don't care as long as the working class

1688
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 8: people are getting some relief. When the rich get richer

1689
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 8: and the poor don't get a devil damn thing.

1690
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 6: That's not good.

1691
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 8: But if the rich get richer, and people are able

1692
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 8: to get some money in they pocket too so they

1693
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,839
Speaker 8: can live, that's a beautiful society.

1694
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 6: Okay.

1695
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 8: And I don't want to hear you idiots say no,

1696
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 8: they gotta pay these loans back. You can't get a

1697
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 8: loan and not pay it back. Sure, but how come

1698
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 8: there is never that sense of urgency to pay loans

1699
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 8: back when it comes to these corporations.

1700
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 6: Okay.

1701
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 8: Two thousand and eight financial crisis, US government bailed out banks,

1702
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 8: AIG got one hundred and eighty two billion, City Group

1703
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 8: got forty five billion in TART funds and hundreds of

1704
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 8: billions in loan guarantees. Bank of America got forty five

1705
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 8: billion through the TART program. Those were loans. Two thousand

1706
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 8: and nine, Auto Industry GM got fifty billion in federal aid,

1707
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 8: Chrysler got twelve billion. GM filed for Chapter eleven bankruptcy

1708
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 8: and had over thirty billion in debt wiped out. What

1709
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 8: about during COVID Delta, United American Airlines OH got billions

1710
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 8: in payroll support and loans. And my point is I

1711
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 8: don't ever hear or see about these corporations getting pressure

1712
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 8: to pay money back the way we are so quick

1713
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 8: to do American citizens.

1714
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm glad all.

1715
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 8: These institutions were able to stay afloat. We need those institutions.

1716
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 8: We need the airlines, we need the banks, but don't

1717
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 8: we need the American people too? Is it really going

1718
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 8: to hurt us as a country if we don't garnish

1719
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 8: the wages of student loan borrows, if we don't take

1720
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 8: from their pensions their tax refunds. Is it really going

1721
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 8: to make or break us as a society if we

1722
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 8: choose to simply let those folks be.

1723
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 6: For the time being.

1724
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 8: Why at a time like this, with the Department of

1725
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 8: Education and the Trump administration be doing this because it's

1726
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 8: not about what's right, it's about revenge.

1727
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 6: I'm not a Joe Biden fan. I think his legacy

1728
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 6: is trash.

1729
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 8: But the student loan forgiveness that he provided was great, Okay,

1730
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 8: one of the better things on his resume. But Donald

1731
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 8: Trump is hell bent on wiping his ass with Joe

1732
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 8: Biden's resume. It's that simple, and we the people have

1733
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 8: to suffer because folks have political scores to settle. Please

1734
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 8: let me be ma give the US Department of Education

1735
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 8: the biggest he hull he ha he ha.

1736
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 9: You stupid mother, Are you dumb?

1737
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 3: That's what we said earlier. It makes no sense none whatsoever.

1738
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 18: They deserve that.

1739
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 7: All right, well, thank you for that donkey of the day, Yes, ma'am.

1740
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 7: Now when we come back, Olyncia Johnson will be joining us.

1741
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 7: She has a new book called Flip the Tables, and

1742
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 7: we're gonna talk to her next.

1743
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere.

1744
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: What's the whole No, what's the whole book?

1745
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 13: Name?

1746
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: Clip the Tables?

1747
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 6: Know what Clip the tables?

1748
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 3: Because every days this guide to finding courage and make

1749
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 3: him change.

1750
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: Your book title better be shorten than the way you

1751
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: becoming that is. I'm going back and forth with them

1752
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: right now. We'll talking about oh you need a sub title,

1753
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: and why.

1754
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 6: That's what it should be called, and why its club coded.

1755
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 9: It's some breakfast club.

1756
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 3: Morning everybody in steej Envy just hilarious.

1757
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 7: Charlamagne the guy, we are the breakfast this club low

1758
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 7: on La Ross here as well, and we got a

1759
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 7: special guest.

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Speaker 6: In the building.

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Speaker 7: Yes, indeed, her new book, Flip the Tables is out

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Speaker 7: right now. We have Alynsia Johnson. Welcome, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad to be here.

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Speaker 3: How you feeling.

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Speaker 1: That's so good.

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Speaker 22: Interesting to say that in the midst of everything going on,

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Speaker 22: but that's good taking care of myself and getting this

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Speaker 22: message out.

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Speaker 6: We find enjoy what we can, right right, we have

1770
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Speaker 6: to you got to the Way to Surviving.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 8: I love the title of your book because I think that,

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Speaker 8: you know, people don't ever expound on that part of

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Speaker 8: Jesus enoughing.

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Speaker 18: You know what I mean that crank Jesus.

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Speaker 8: Yes, flip the tables that every day disrupt this guide

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Speaker 8: to finding courage and making change?

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Speaker 6: Break that title death.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, you know, I'm glad you mentioned that reference. I'm

1780
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Speaker 22: Pastor's daughter.

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Speaker 18: I love that story of Jesus.

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Speaker 22: And in all of my work, I've worked on a

1783
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 22: lot of presidential campaigns, I've worked for a Planned parenthood.

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Speaker 22: People constantly ask me, oh my goodness, how can I

1785
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Speaker 22: make change? They think it has to be at this

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Speaker 22: massive scale. But what I realize is that when we

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Speaker 22: find the courage to really be ourselves and to live

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 22: in our truth, and to speak up and rooms and

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01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 22: do these small acts of disruption every single day, it

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Speaker 22: doesn't actually require folks to quit their jobs.

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Speaker 18: And run for office. So I don't think a lot

1792
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 18: of people should do that.

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Speaker 22: It doesn't require us to be like doctor King or

1794
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,799
Speaker 22: you know, having these massive platforms which are really important.

1795
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 22: But there are things that folks can do every single day.

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01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 22: And I found that getting connected to your individual purpose

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Speaker 22: and having the courage to be who you are is

1798
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 22: directly connected to being an everyday disruptor that propels our

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Speaker 22: communities forward. And I think it's kind of divine that

1800
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Speaker 22: it's such a time as this that it came out

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Speaker 22: when I started writing this book five years ago, and

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01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 22: who knew that it would come out three months after

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Speaker 22: a few months after Donald Trump was elected.

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Speaker 6: Again, you worked on the VP's campaign, right, and you

1805
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Speaker 6: do work? You worked with Barack, Yeah, I worked on

1806
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Speaker 6: I worked by A.

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Speaker 22: Lama's campaign, Jo Biden's campaign, was with Born's campaign and

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Speaker 22: Vice President Hair's campaign.

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Speaker 8: What bothers me is, I know people like you exist

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Speaker 8: in people like you work for these individuals.

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Speaker 6: Why aren't they disruptive enough? Why don't they flip tables?

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Speaker 6: Why do they? Why did they don't? Why don't why

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Speaker 6: don't they have the courage to disrupt the status quot

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Speaker 6: All of them, all of them.

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Speaker 22: Well, you know, it's interesting because I don't I don't

1816
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Speaker 22: want to say I look at well, I don't think

1817
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 22: I look at all of them.

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Speaker 18: In essence the same.

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01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 22: In democratic politics and politics in general, elected officials, I

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01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 22: think tend to follow a certain path, right, and sometimes

1821
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 22: it seems as though making sure that the status quo remains.

1822
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 22: I do think, if we step back a little bit,

1823
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 22: Barack Obama was a bit of a disruptor because him

1824
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 22: because his ID, his identity, but and because he you know,

1825
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 22: folks told him he shouldn't have ran, and he and

1826
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Speaker 22: he did. Right Now, there's a whole system at play

1827
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Speaker 22: that folks. You know, when you become the president of

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Speaker 22: the United States or nominee for the President of the

1829
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 22: United States, you know you uphold this party platform. But

1830
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Speaker 22: the reality is I don't look at them to disrupt

1831
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 22: what our country needs politically. I actually look at as

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Speaker 22: the people in the ground swell. Which is why it's

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Speaker 22: just as important. Yes, I work for a lot of

1834
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Speaker 22: presidential campaigns, but just as important to work for these

1835
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Speaker 22: local races, to work for these primary races, to work

1836
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Speaker 22: for these governors races, all these people who are actually

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01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 22: trying to challenge the system and get more reflective folks

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Speaker 22: in position to actually push forward the policies who care about,

1839
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 22: like universal health care and racial justice and access to abortion,

1840
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 22: all those things. And so you know, it takes a

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01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 22: lot of courage to shake the table, and it takes

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Speaker 22: a lot of courage to concede that if you're going

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Speaker 22: to shake the table, you actually might lose in the

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Speaker 22: short term, but you're going to create a path for

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Speaker 22: other people to push forward that change, and it will

1846
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 22: be a little bit easier because you were there and

1847
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 22: you started something.

1848
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Speaker 3: How did you get into politics? What got you into

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Speaker 3: politics in that party?

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Speaker 22: Again, I think it was always in me. I talk

1851
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 22: about my late grandmother in the book often. I actually

1852
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,600
Speaker 22: dedicate the book to her, Miss Ozella Bennett, and she

1853
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 22: was one of those people who, much like a lot

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Speaker 22: of our ancestors, their names aren't history books, but they

1855
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 22: were foot soldiers. My grandmother was in the church. I'm

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Speaker 22: the daughter pastor, so I grew up in the Black Church.

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Speaker 22: And there's a lot of politics there, right, a lot

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Speaker 22: of social justice there, and just this understanding that were

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 22: much as given, much is required, that my gifts are

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Speaker 22: not my own, and that they are actually on loan,

1861
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Speaker 22: and that I actually have to get those out and

1862
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Speaker 22: help the world around me.

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Speaker 18: And my grandmother, no matter.

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Speaker 22: How much she had or what she didn't have, she

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Speaker 22: always felt like she had to stand in the gap.

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Speaker 22: And voting for me is just all I mean. I

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Speaker 22: would go to with my parents, who the voting blu

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Speaker 22: that had that little sticker, But that was just like

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Speaker 22: one part of it. I had to be an active

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Speaker 22: participant in the world that I wanted to create, and

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Speaker 22: so for me, it was just kind of natural that

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Speaker 22: it would be a part of my life.

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Speaker 18: Now, how I got to my position I talk about.

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Speaker 6: In the book.

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Speaker 22: I didn't know anybody in democratic politics when I moved

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Speaker 22: to DC. I was working a corporate job. I just

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01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 22: had a dream.

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Speaker 18: I was like, Oh, this black man is president.

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Speaker 22: I think I kind of want to work for his

1880
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Speaker 22: reelection campaign and figured out how to network with folks

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Speaker 22: and ended up taking a job that I wasn't even

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Speaker 22: qualified for, but they took a chance on me, and

1883
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Speaker 22: I figured it out from there. And I can't just

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Speaker 22: sit on the sidelines and critique something and not be

1885
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Speaker 22: a part of it. And I also understand how engaging

1886
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 22: if so many more of us engaged in the process,

1887
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Speaker 22: the outcomes will look different, our communities will look different.

1888
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 22: But for whatever reason, there are so many barriers for

1889
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 22: us to engage. And that's another reason why I wanted

1890
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 22: to be part of this, because I felt like, well,

1891
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 22: if I can do this and people can identify with me,

1892
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 22: maybe it won't feel as hard for me to engage

1893
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 22: in politics. Maybe you know, I won't feel a shame

1894
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 22: that I don't know every single term that they're using

1895
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 22: or every single way that the policy is defiled.

1896
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Speaker 6: I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 22: Sometimes when I have to go and see it MSNBC

1898
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 22: and talk about something, I got a research what I'm

1899
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 22: talking about because government class was in high school.

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Speaker 18: I'm thirty seven years old. I don't remember everything.

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Speaker 22: And so if I can't remember all these things, right,

1902
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 22: if I have to continue to inform myself, imagine all

1903
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 22: the other people who are just scared to participate because

1904
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 22: they don't know. It's not that they don't want to,

1905
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 22: and so I know that I have to be a

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01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 22: representative of that. But I also, again, is this calling

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01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,919
Speaker 22: where much as given, much as required, and I'm required

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Speaker 22: to make my communities better.

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Speaker 4: I think right now, with politics and like how we're

1910
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 4: seeing people get messages out through like TikTok and stuff

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 2: Things are changing.

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Speaker 4: And I saw an interview that you did where you

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01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 4: talked about you weren't the most qualified, but you were

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Speaker 4: the most recommended when it came to working for the Obamas.

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01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 4: And then I saw another interview where you talked about

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Speaker 4: your red Flag is You chapter in your book, and

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Speaker 4: putting both of those together, I think that there's like

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Speaker 4: a renaissance of like new political leaders, but they're afraid

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Speaker 4: that they don't know enough for it, that they can't

1921
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 4: challenge the trumps of the world, you know what I mean.

1922
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 4: So how do you speak to those leaders that are

1923
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 4: coming up in this book? Because they're there, they just

1924
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 4: need to figure out how to do what you did.

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Speaker 22: No, they literally are there, which is why I start

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01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 22: the book with the disruption of self right. We actually

1927
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 22: have to look in the mirror, and that's the hardest

1928
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 22: thing to do. One thing that I've realized in working

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Speaker 22: and advocacy spaces and political spaces.

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Speaker 18: I'm not controuble for saying this.

1931
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Speaker 22: But we're telling the world to treat us well and

1932
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 22: to vote for us to enact these policies that see

1933
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 22: us as worthy for humanity and all of these things

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Speaker 22: and fighting for justice, and yet we're not treating each

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Speaker 22: other well.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 18: A lot of that is because we are not healthy.

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Speaker 22: We're not dealing with the things that are holding us

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Speaker 22: back from being who we are. We're not dealing with

1940
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Speaker 22: this trauma, and we're doing this interpersonal harm that is

1941
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 22: actually not allowing us to do the work that needs

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01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 22: to be done for communities. And so I put that

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Speaker 22: chapter the Red Flag is You and the Disruption of

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Speaker 22: Self section of the book because so many times we

1945
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 22: are the ones that are getting in our own way.

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Speaker 22: And that's why, you know, the only things stopping us. Sometimes, yes,

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Speaker 22: there's the system, right like, there's all of that, and

1948
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 22: yet at the same time, sometimes it's us getting in

1949
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 22: our own way.

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Speaker 7: I we have more with Alynsia Johnson when we come back.

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Speaker 7: Her new book, Flip the Tables is out now. It's

1952
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 7: the Breakfast Club, Good Morning Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,

1953
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 7: Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, thea God. We are the Breakfast Club.

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01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 7: Laura Laarosa is here as well. We're still kicking with

1955
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 7: Alynsia Johnson. Her new book flip the tables is out

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Speaker 7: right now, Lauren?

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Speaker 4: What about your because I know you did a lot

1958
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 4: of work with planting parents who and now a lot

1959
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Speaker 4: of what you were doing is they ain't supporting that.

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Speaker 4: So when you do all this work, you stopped taking

1961
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 4: the rest to fight to make it, to break this ground.

1962
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Speaker 4: And then you see this new administration come in who's

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Speaker 4: completely against it, and it's stripping all of that. You

1964
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 4: feel defeated or like what happens now? Because you're not

1965
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Speaker 4: there anymore?

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Speaker 22: No, I mean, and then they have the audacity to

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Speaker 22: talk about they want to put policies in place for

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Speaker 22: people to have more babies and give people five thousand dollars.

1969
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Speaker 22: I'm like, but y'all voted against the child tax credit.

1970
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Speaker 22: So what's interesting about working at Planned Parenthood? I worked

1971
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Speaker 22: there for six years at the National Office, and talk

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Speaker 22: about disruptive, being the daughter of a pastor, a lover

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Speaker 22: of Jesus and advocating for abortion rights. People are like,

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Speaker 22: how do you reconcile that? I was like, I just exist, literally,

1975
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Speaker 22: I just exist. And the teachings of Jesus, the ret

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Speaker 22: text in the Bible tells me a lot of ways

1977
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Speaker 22: in which I should show up in the world. When

1978
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 22: I look at when I was working at Plane Parenthood,

1979
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 22: President Obama was still in office, and I was like, oh,

1980
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 22: we're good.

1981
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 18: You know, he believes and reproductive freedom.

1982
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 13: This is great.

1983
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 18: And they're like, oh no, let's look at.

1984
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 22: These state policies and these states that are overturning the

1985
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 22: right to access to abortion, not only access to abortion,

1986
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 22: but sex education, contraception, all of these things, and just

1987
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 22: gutting healthcare systems and health centers that are helping people

1988
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 22: who have nowhere else to go. When I look at

1989
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 22: what's happening now at the federal level, and you know,

1990
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 22: the Trump administration is literally going after organizations like Planned Parenthood,

1991
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 22: it reminds me that these people do not care about

1992
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 22: people at the margins. They do not care about low

1993
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 22: income folks who have nowhere else to go. And if

1994
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 22: you actually wanted people to have more children in this country,

1995
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 22: would you would actually support and bolster the healthcare system

1996
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 22: instead of gutting it. Last week was Black Maternal Health Week,

1997
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,839
Speaker 22: and Black maternal mortality is on the rise. Maternal mortality

1998
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 22: across the country, across the demographics is on the rise.

1999
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:53,520
Speaker 22: And the wealthiest nation and so it's challenging, it's frustrating.

2000
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 22: There's this Alice Walker quote I put at the beginning

2001
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 22: of the book, and I'm paraphrasing it. You have to

2002
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 22: keep a healthy soul on the face of constant of depression,

2003
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 22: which reminds you that at the end of the day,

2004
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 22: there's going to continuously be something that you're fighting for.

2005
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 22: So how do you maintain your spirit in order to

2006
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 22: keep going? And that is through the joy and the

2007
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 22: rest and all of those things can coexist together while

2008
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 22: you're also still fighting for the ability to have agency

2009
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 22: over my body. The one thing I will say of

2010
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 22: everything being burned down, from abortion access to everything that's

2011
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 22: happening in our country, it gives us the opportunity to

2012
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 22: build something better and something new. I don't want to

2013
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 22: rebuild the old, because the old was clearly it was

2014
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 22: able to be dismantled. I actually now want to be

2015
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 22: able to imagine something even better that's actually going.

2016
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 18: To work, and how do we build that? And that's

2017
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 18: actually what gets me up at night.

2018
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 22: I'm like, I'm not fighting these people to rebuild what

2019
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 22: didn't work. I have this vision that excites me to

2020
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 22: build something even better. Even on the days that are

2021
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 22: hard and.

2022
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 18: That's too simple.

2023
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 8: Even going back to the urgency, and now when people

2024
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 8: ask us now, they tell us all of these different

2025
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 8: things that Trump is doing every single day, and they're like,

2026
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 8: what what do you think of that? And I'm like,

2027
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 8: I don't know what to think because I'm like, what

2028
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 8: am I even supposed to do? Because it always seems

2029
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 8: like the urgency is put on we the people, right,

2030
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 8: But then when these elected officials that we voted for

2031
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 8: from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four, when they were

2032
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 8: in the White House, they didn't govern with a sense

2033
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 8: of urgency. That's what always gets me about Democrats. Whenever

2034
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 8: it's election time, it's a sense of urgency. It's on y'all.

2035
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 8: It's just threat to democracy and you know you're gonna

2036
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 8: lose all your rights and everything else. But you don't

2037
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 8: govern like that when you get an office.

2038
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, it is frustrating.

2039
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 22: I will say, I don't pay attention to what that

2040
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 22: man is doing all day every day, because then I'll

2041
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 22: just sit in this place where I'm immobile. Right, But

2042
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 22: I do look for small pockets of hope, and to

2043
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 22: your point, it does end up being us that have

2044
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 22: to save our own communities. But like I think that's

2045
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 22: in general nature of who we are as a people,

2046
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 22: and that is community. I mean, look at you know,

2047
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 22: our friends who started State of the People, which I

2048
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 22: was a part of, you all broadcasted and now it's going.

2049
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 18: Now there's a whole tour.

2050
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 22: Shout out to Angela Rye and Joy Read and so

2051
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 22: many folks who are just building something beautiful, reminding us

2052
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 22: of our power as community. And I think out of

2053
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 22: that birth's people who will govern with urgency of now.

2054
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 22: So I write about Aana Presley in the book, but

2055
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 22: I also write about Shirley Chisholm, who was just fed

2056
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 22: up and was like, oh, I'm going to actually be

2057
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:29,799
Speaker 22: the one that changes.

2058
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 13: You know.

2059
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 22: David Hogg, who was the vice chair of the DNC

2060
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 22: but was a survivor of Parkland shooting. It's done all

2061
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 22: of this activism and now he's challenging. He's getting a

2062
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 22: lot of heat.

2063
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 9: He's getting a lot of heat.

2064
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 6: I have said that.

2065
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 8: I said that two months ago. Anybody who's not willing

2066
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 8: to fight in the Democratic Party should be primary Kim Jeffries,

2067
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 8: Choke Schuma, y'all should resign.

2068
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 6: If y'all not the people that can meet this moment.

2069
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 8: I really feel that way, and anybody else in the

2070
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 8: Democratic Party who's not willing to fight should be primary.

2071
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 6: I'm all full with David hag Doing. I said that

2072
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 6: months ago, and.

2073
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 22: Listen, you know there are some people who disagree with that,

2074
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,640
Speaker 22: but he said looks and change has. We can't just

2075
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 22: keep talking about change. You gotta actually go after and

2076
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 22: whether or not you believe and what he's doing, whether

2077
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 22: or not you believe that there needs to be new leadership,

2078
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 22: whatever it is like, changes don't just happen with we

2079
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 22: sit around and wish for it.

2080
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 18: We actually have to do something about it.

2081
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 22: And sometimes in order to get these folks to operate

2082
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 22: with some urgency, you gotta put some pressure and some

2083
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 22: cheat under them.

2084
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 6: That's why everybody in the party should have had a

2085
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 6: copy of this book. Flip the table a lot.

2086
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to do it though.

2087
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 4: They have no choice now, They never never don't have

2088
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 4: When do.

2089
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 2: We ever have a choice?

2090
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 6: No, there's really no choice now.

2091
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 4: I feel like it's always a fight or fight, like,

2092
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 4: do what you got to do to get out of situation.

2093
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 4: It's different, I could be, but I feel like it

2094
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 4: is different, but I don't feel like anything has changed

2095
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 4: about the way that people are handling it. I don't

2096
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 4: really feel the sense of urgency. There was an interview

2097
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 4: that you talked about Di You're like, these companies are folding.

2098
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 4: It was a Glamour magazine and you said, these companies

2099
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 4: are foting. They don't understand that the proximity to the

2100
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 4: president isn't power. Power is showing him that he needs you.

2101
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 4: People are not going to do that. Everything that we're

2102
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 4: talking about, people just don't do it, you know.

2103
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 22: But I think what I hear you and I do

2104
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 22: have to remind us all that this man has only

2105
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 22: he hasn't even been in office one hundred days. But

2106
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 22: because we are in such an information overload forever, it

2107
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 22: does like you open Instagram and I'm saying restaurants I

2108
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 22: want to go to, and then I'm seeing what this

2109
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 22: man is doing in the White House, right, So like

2110
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,560
Speaker 22: we're in this information overload and yeah, and at the

2111
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 22: same time, I think about at the State of the Union,

2112
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 22: shout out to Congressman Green and y'all had him up here,

2113
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 22: and I was like, oh my gosh, every single Democrat

2114
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 22: should have gotten up right after him and disrupted the

2115
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 22: entire speech, right and then when you know Senator Booker

2116
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 22: did his filibuster, people were saying, Yes, this is what

2117
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 22: we need more of. And now you're seeing more people

2118
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 22: in the streets, and I think people are are some

2119
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 22: of our elected officials are understanding that there's more that

2120
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 22: they can do now, and then there is still going

2121
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 22: to be some who don't.

2122
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 18: And we have midterm.

2123
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 22: Elections and special elections, and I am all about getting

2124
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 22: people in office who are going to be effective and

2125
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 22: also us participating in that. If you, whether you agree

2126
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 22: with them or disagree with them, if they represent you,

2127
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 22: you have the power and the right to show up

2128
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 22: and tell them what is working and what isn't working.

2129
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 22: And I want more of us to do. I want

2130
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 22: our elected officials to be scared. I want our elect

2131
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 22: officials to be like, my constituents aren't going for this,

2132
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 22: or my constituents told me I have to do this,

2133
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 22: and that's why I'm doing.

2134
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 6: It absolutely well.

2135
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 3: Flip the Tables is out right now.

2136
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 8: I'm Cia Johnson, the Everyday Disruptor's Guide to finding courage

2137
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 8: and making change. And this isn't a book, you know,

2138
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 8: just with politics now just in life.

2139
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 6: If you want to learn how to tables like Jesus did, Yes,

2140
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 6: more of that.

2141
01:30:56,040 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 22: Yeah, like, can you imagine like Jesus flippant over tables angry?

2142
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 6: Yes, I think you should. I think you should find

2143
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 6: a table to flip.

2144
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 18: Listen. Okay, that's a whole other conversation for us to have.

2145
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 13: You w.

2146
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 3: Lindia Johnson is the club. Good morning y'all, the breakfast.

2147
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 9: Club rolling everybody.

2148
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 3: It's DJ Envy J just hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

2149
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 6: We are the breakfasts club. You just reminded me saluting

2150
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 6: my guy. Mister show me the money, mister show money,

2151
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 6: mister show money.

2152
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 8: I was in New York, New Jersey over the weekend

2153
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 8: and he gave some gifts for Jess and Lauren and

2154
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 8: you as well.

2155
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 6: But he told me to give you this sombrero. What's

2156
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 6: that for? He said?

2157
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 8: He said, get at the cowboy. I said, who is cowboy?

2158
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 8: He said Envy And I said, why you call him cowboy?

2159
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 8: He said, you know what I'm talking about. I don't

2160
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 8: know what he's talking about.

2161
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:48,799
Speaker 6: And I'm just passing you to some that's a sombrero though.

2162
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 3: That's I'm not Mexican and I'm not Latino.

2163
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 6: This is well, you're Dominican.

2164
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 3: I'm not Dominican. Why do you give me a some

2165
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 3: I bet you know how to wear it.

2166
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 6: You look at you. You know exactly how to wear it.

2167
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 18: That is so cute.

2168
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 6: You hate too big for this all over jess in

2169
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 6: Law's house. Listen, you know exactly look at you. There

2170
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:10,560
Speaker 6: you go, there you go. But that's good. What I

2171
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 6: say with it's a barrel like what now you don't know?

2172
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, right, well, speaking of right, I thought

2173
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:19,600
Speaker 2: we got to.

2174
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 6: Take a shot right now, she's about to take a shot. Yeah,

2175
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 6: good morning, good day.

2176
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 7: I'm actually DJing Tequila Fest in the Landa next week,

2177
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 7: so this I'm definitely I'm gonna take my sombreda with me.

2178
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: There happened this weekend so we could do the Black

2179
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 2: Effect Festival and then go drink.

2180
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 6: To quila alcoholic. Let's get to.

2181
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 3: Long be coming straight fat.

2182
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 9: She gets them from somebody that knows, somebody gets the detail.

2183
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

2184
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 9: She's been having the latest on the Latest with Laurence

2185
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 9: La Rosa.

2186
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 8: Sometimes you have fact, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you

2187
01:32:58,600 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 8: have a little bit of everything.

2188
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 6: It's the on the.

2189
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 9: Breakfast cloud talk to me.

2190
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 4: Ryan Coogler has posted a thank you letter to his

2191
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 4: ex account and it is the sweetest thing ever.

2192
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 2: Doing another time right, he deserves to Can you do

2193
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 2: too in a row? Is that thank you?

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01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 4: So he posted this letter to his ex account and

2195
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 4: he's just talking about how grateful he is and how

2196
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 4: his heart is bursting with gratitude because of everybody that

2197
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 4: came out and supported Sinners over its opening weekend, over

2198
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 4: Eastern weekend.

2199
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 2: He says he wants to think everybody who went and

2200
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 2: brought a ticket go see it.

2201
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,520
Speaker 4: You know, people who carpooled, who you know, got babysitters,

2202
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 4: made a new friend while they were there.

2203
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 16: You know.

2204
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 4: He talks about how he believes so much in cinema

2205
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 4: and the theatrical experience and he doesn't get to do

2206
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 4: what he does if people don't come out and see it.

2207
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 6: Sinna's was a spiritual experience.

2208
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 8: They mixed black music, black magic, the Black Church to

2209
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 8: create a black master piece.

2210
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 4: Man that I kept hearing about was the soundtrack, Like

2211
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 4: I kept the music tire. Everything was fired like the music,

2212
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 4: the way that it look the coloring, the storyline, the acting.

2213
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 7: I'm going this week. I was supposed to go last night,

2214
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 7: but I couldn't make it. I'm going this week though,

2215
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go again.

2216
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go for a third time, just because I

2217
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 2: was saying the movie three times.

2218
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 6: I know that's right.

2219
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go again for a third time.

2220
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 6: Just first of it was one of the movies different dudes.

2221
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 6: Didn't you.

2222
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 13: What that? Wow?

2223
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 8: Remember I told you she got three dudes that day

2224
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 8: on Valentine's Three people send her.

2225
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 2: Okay, beyond like, I don't first, what should I do?

2226
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 11: First?

2227
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 4: I went by myself first of all, I swear I

2228
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 4: went by myself the first time I watched it.

2229
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 2: I watched watch up until.

2230
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: Certain point because we were every time you lie you studied,

2231
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 1: the second by.

2232
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 4: Myself, and then the third time. I'm gonna go, but

2233
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 4: I'm gona tell her what you back there laughing at

2234
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 4: because they Okay, anyway back to Ryan Cooler, not nothing

2235
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 4: about me. I So he did something that was really

2236
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 4: sweet at the end of the letter though he ended

2237
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 4: the letter then he said PS and he talked about

2238
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 4: the fact that people are making a big deal about him.

2239
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan's relationship, him and his wife's really or.

2240
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 4: They're married or they I believe him and his wife's relationship,

2241
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 4: and you know other relationships that he's had that you know,

2242
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 4: span it across all of these years and helped him

2243
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 4: be the creator that he is. But he said he

2244
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 4: wanted to take a second to shout out Michael Shaver,

2245
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 4: who is their picture editor, who he's been working with

2246
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 4: for over fifteen years. And if you see any of

2247
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 4: the photos from the film and just like how cinematic

2248
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 4: and then like the photography like the stills or whatever

2249
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 4: from the film fire as well too.

2250
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 2: But I thought that that was so fired that he

2251
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 2: took the time to do that to make sure this

2252
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 2: man got a shot.

2253
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 4: And he said that this guy miss missed the press

2254
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 4: tour because he was spending time with his family, so

2255
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 4: he wanted to make sure he got some love as

2256
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 4: well too. But Ryan Coogler been he'd been out here

2257
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 4: doing the thing individual.

2258
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 2: I mustache girl.

2259
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,560
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the first time I actually saying to

2260
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 1: my sayings like that actually looks good because that's Steve Harvey.

2261
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 2: But when you put it on Ryane with the straight

2262
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 2: bag some nothing else on his face. I can see

2263
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 2: I can see that, and he got an.

2264
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 6: Unprecedented deal for sentence.

2265
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 13: He did so.

2266
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 4: He actually did a deal with Warner Brothers where he

2267
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 4: will retain the rights to the film centers in twenty

2268
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 4: five years.

2269
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 6: He gets the ownership price back up.

2270
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 9: Yep.

2271
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 4: And that has been the source of a lot of

2272
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 4: conversation as well too, and people are talking about how, well,

2273
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 4: so one more thing.

2274
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 6: Till he secured a first dollar gross deal.

2275
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 2: Yes, so what that is? That's important.

2276
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 6: It means that he receives a.

2277
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,919
Speaker 8: Portion of box office revenue before the studio even begins recouping.

2278
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 2: Wow, which is a big deal. And it deals like

2279
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:39,719
Speaker 2: this don't happen often.

2280
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 4: I think the last time that people keep pointing back

2281
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 4: to that things like this have happened was Quentin Tarantino.

2282
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 4: And he mentioned Quentin Tarantino in his letter as one

2283
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 4: of his inspirations for what he does as well too.

2284
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 4: But as of today, he has grossed forty five point

2285
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 4: six million dollars domestically and seventy one million dollars globally

2286
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 4: during his open weekend opening weekend.

2287
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 6: Yes, we got to keep supporting.

2288
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 8: Yes, And that's the original I P Man that's an

2289
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 8: original story written by Ryan Coogler, like dropping the clude

2290
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 8: bond for Ryan Coole.

2291
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 6: That's all of the original I.

2292
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 8: P that Hollywood is looking for exist in the South,

2293
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 8: Black folklore from the South.

2294
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 4: He includes family photos in his letter as well too,

2295
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,679
Speaker 4: because he talks about how it stems from his ancestry,

2296
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 4: which he talks about up here as well.

2297
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 2: Right's pretty young, right, yeah, he is young. I look

2298
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 2: it up. I want to real quick before we get

2299
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 2: out of here, go back to Shannon Sharp.

2300
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 3: Back to Shannon Shaa.

2301
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 2: Well, nothing new happened, nothing crazy as of yet. I

2302
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 2: can check my emails. But Stephen A.

2303
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 4: Smith did go on his show and talk about the situation,

2304
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 4: and he had a really good point about the career

2305
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 4: stuff and where Disney is right now with everything.

2306
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.

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01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 24: All I can speak to about is what I know

2308
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 24: based on the reports, and I can speak about ESPN

2309
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 24: and Disney. To be clear, even though this podcast, this

2310
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 24: YouTube show is owned and operated by me solely, it

2311
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 24: doesn't mean that I'm going to be dismissive of ESPN,

2312
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 24: who employs me in my daytime job. On first ac

2313
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 24: With that being said, it's important to point out a

2314
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 24: couple of things. Number One, I was not there, I

2315
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 24: am not I can provide no eyewitness account. And even

2316
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 24: though I got love and respect for Shannon Sharp and

2317
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 24: I'm sincerely hopeful and prayerful that he is completely innocent

2318
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 24: of the allegations that have been levied against him, I

2319
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 24: can't sit here and speak to his innocence or guilt

2320
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 24: from a knowledgeable place because I have nothing to do

2321
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:34,600
Speaker 24: with this.

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01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 6: I haven't seen anything, I don't know anything. I don't

2323
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 6: even know this person.

2324
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2325
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 4: So, I mean people wanted to update from the career side,

2326
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 4: ESPN Disney see where that was going to go, and

2327
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 4: I guess this is the close you're gonna get to it.

2328
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 4: Before this happened, though, I think a lot of people

2329
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 4: were saying the obvious that normally with a company like

2330
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 4: a Disney, they don't want to get in the mud

2331
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 4: to mess at all.

2332
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 2: They normally take a step back. They haven't said anything

2333
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 2: officially yet, but let.

2334
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 3: Me ask a question, what did what did doctor Umar say?

2335
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 13: Though?

2336
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 19: Oh baby, I'm staying with Uncle Shannon because I don't

2337
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 19: like when black men get taken down. I gotta stand by. Yes,

2338
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 19: he's a lifetime snow bunny hopper. Yes, he's a lifetime.

2339
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 9: Snow bunny hopper.

2340
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 6: But that's my brother.

2341
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 9: Uncle Shannon Sharp is my brother.

2342
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 19: I'm standing with Uncle Shannon Sharp until the facts prove otherwise,

2343
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 19: all right.

2344
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2345
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 8: I don't like seeing brothers get taken down either, especially

2346
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 8: when it's self inflicted. But we got to remember, destiny

2347
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 8: is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice.

2348
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:35,560
Speaker 8: And all of this is happening because it seems like

2349
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 8: Shannon Sharp made some poor choices and being fifty four

2350
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 8: at the time.

2351
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 6: Hollering at a nineteen year old, it's a very poor choice. Okay,

2352
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 6: it is what it is.

2353
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 8: No, Yes, it's a shakedown, but you know people can't

2354
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 8: shake you down or let you give him something to shake.

2355
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we don't know what it is yet. Let

2356
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 3: the facts play out in court.

2357
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 6: It's definitely a shakedown.

2358
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:57,680
Speaker 3: Well we don't know if. I mean, we don't know

2359
01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 3: if it's true and.

2360
01:39:58,360 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 6: Not fifty million dollars.

2361
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:01,959
Speaker 3: Okay, So what you're talking about.

2362
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:07,719
Speaker 8: Me because if there was, if there was a violation,

2363
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 8: it wasn't a shakedown, then she'd be pressing criminal charges

2364
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 8: that might be coming next.

2365
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:12,600
Speaker 7: I don't know, but you did that That's why I

2366
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 7: asked you yesterday. I asked could they still press charges

2367
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 7: on them criminally?

2368
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 4: I mean some of the stuff is as recent according

2369
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 4: to the victim as January twenty twenty five. So I mean,

2370
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 4: I don't know every law in the world, but that's

2371
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 4: that's like a couple months ago. I don't see why

2372
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 4: not right, and just why I would have to look

2373
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 4: up the laws in the battle though, and I and

2374
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 4: talk to the attorneys.

2375
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 7: My Bible says it's a twenty year statue when it

2376
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 7: comes to sexual assault.

2377
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 8: And just hearing the lawyer say out of his own

2378
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 8: mouth that they was close to a ten million dollars settlement.

2379
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,600
Speaker 8: Why you know, like when you when you settled, it

2380
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 8: looks like an admission of guilt or innocent.

2381
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 6: Why would you settle?

2382
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 7: Or if he does settle it, it doesn't have other

2383
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 7: people come out, right. They always say, Michael Jackson settled

2384
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 7: out that one case so other people wouldn't come out.

2385
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:55,679
Speaker 6: No, that's not what they said.

2386
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 8: Johnny Cochran actually told Michael not to settle because as

2387
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,599
Speaker 8: soon as you settle, you come a pigurement. But everybody

2388
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 8: and their mama gonna be coming out with their hand

2389
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 8: out and accusations.

2390
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 2: People coming out regardless if that's what they want to

2391
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 2: do at this point in our day and age.

2392
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:13,759
Speaker 1: But can't be guys, remember when remember the Cassie he settled?

2393
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: Did he settle with her? And then all real day

2394
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 1: came like, oh, I.

2395
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 2: Want everybody came she got three hundred dollars and she

2396
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 2: was like, excuse me, arial die. She then gave her

2397
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars. So what the damn Masters was worth?

2398
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 1: It was?

2399
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:30,879
Speaker 2: I think it was like three yea, three hundreds.

2400
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 6: I was about to look at but that with that

2401
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 6: to your point, did he settle with Cassie? And then

2402
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 6: what happened?

2403
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 3: Everybody came out?

2404
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 2: Okay, like I want my page.

2405
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 8: But if he was going to settle, he should have

2406
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 8: set up before it was a lawsuit kit. Yeah, behind

2407
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 8: the scenes, the scene. That's why they don't make no sense.

2408
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 8: That's why none of this makes any sense to me.

2409
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Suggests it was justice corrected.

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01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 4: It was three hundred dollars and thirty cents for she

2411
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 4: got the thirty cents, but that was the because she

2412
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 4: didn't sign that whole deal with the NBA and the

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Speaker 4: Masters and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: But yes, just three hundred dollars and thirty cents through

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Speaker 2: all that for three hundred dollars. And Ryan Coogler is

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Speaker 2: thirty eight years old. Okay, okay, and happy birthday, George pay. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll be back with more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we were he had on the summer road

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Speaker 1: a couple of the birthday. I gotta know the Mexican's birthday.

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Speaker 9: Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: All right, well that is the latest with Lauren and Lauren.

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Speaker 7: You also talked about earlier that John Cena follows you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Envy, don't do that.

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Speaker 8: Nothing nothing that Johnson to follow everybody was a million

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Speaker 8: follows me, Charlie find.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, excited, you know what?

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Speaker 4: You know what just recently talked about getting hair plugs

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Speaker 4: and and bringing back hair.

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Speaker 6: So you follow him?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you know he follows you.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you should d.

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Speaker 3: M wow, Envy, you got so we have when he

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Speaker 3: put them tarots on them wings.

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Speaker 13: With you then looking.

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Speaker 9: Like you're like into the breakfast club.

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Speaker 7: Morning, everybody is j en Vy just hilarious. Charlamagne to God,

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01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 7: we are the breakfast Club. Salute to Debbie Brown for

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Speaker 7: joining us today.

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Speaker 6: Man Slut, my glad sister.

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Speaker 8: Debbie Brown her new book Living in Wisdom, A path

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Speaker 8: to embodying your authentic self, embracing grief, and developing self

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Speaker 8: mastery is out. Now make sure you subscribed to her podcast,

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Speaker 8: The Deeply Well Podcasts on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast Network.

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Speaker 6: And Debbie will also be at the third.

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Speaker 8: Annual Black Effect Podcast Festival happening this Saturday in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: We have a mental Health and Mindful this panel that

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Speaker 6: she will she will be sitting on.

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Speaker 8: Man, so join us, you know, go to Black Effect

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Speaker 8: dot Com Slash Podcast Festival to get your tickets. Okay,

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Speaker 8: Sara Jake Roberts will be on that podcast stage. Cam

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Speaker 8: Newton will be on that podcast stage, Carrie Champion with

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Speaker 8: the Neked podcast and a host of others. Man, So

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Speaker 8: go to Black Effect dot Com Slash Podcast Festival to

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Speaker 8: get your tickets and we'll see you Saturday.

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Speaker 6: And yes, Weezy and Mandy from Decisions.

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Speaker 2: Love that.

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01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 3: And also salutes to Alynsia Johnson for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 8: Yes, her new book, Lift the Tables that every Day

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Speaker 8: disrupt This guide to finding courage and making change, a

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Speaker 8: book that Jess Larius does not need to read.

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Speaker 6: She's already a disruptive.

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Speaker 1: And listen y'all can catch me May tenth. It's a

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Speaker 1: pre Mother's Day comedy day. We got three shows in

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Speaker 1: Detroit at one Mic comedy Club. Make sure you get

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Speaker 1: your tickets at jess hilarious official dot com. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: doing three shows because I'm only gonna be there for

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Speaker 1: one day. We got the eleven Am brunch, the early

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01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 1: evening show at seven pm, and then the late night

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Speaker 1: show at nine thirty pm. So make sure y'all bring

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Speaker 1: y'all mothers, your aunt your grandmother's brothers, bring your sisters, whatever, whatever, whatever.

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Speaker 1: Just get your tickets and I will be doing meet

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Speaker 1: and greet at the last show. Jesselari's official dot com.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see your Detroit.

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Speaker 7: Now it's time to get up out of here. You guys,

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01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 7: have a great day in slute to Atlanta. I'll be

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01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 7: in Atlanta next week all next week, still promoting my

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Speaker 7: book that's out right now, Real Life, Real Family, and

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01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 7: then of course Tequila Festival.

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Speaker 3: All right, shelm Man, you got a positive No I do.

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Speaker 6: I just want to tell everybody man, gratitude.

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Speaker 13: Man.

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Speaker 8: Gratitude should always be your attitude. Gratitude is one of

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Speaker 8: the strongest and most transformative states of being. It shifts

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01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 8: your perspective from lack of abundance and allows you to

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01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 8: focus on the good in your life, which in turn

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01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,440
Speaker 8: pulls more goodness into your reality.

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Speaker 6: So always be grateful. Let gratitude be your attitude. Have

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Speaker 6: a great day, Breakfast club bites you. I'm finished for y'all.

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Speaker 13: Done.