1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: generation warfare. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: Really a commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: intelligence veteran, This. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: Is Human Events with your host Jack Kisobek, christ is Well. 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: Lawmakers in Washington, DC are actually working on legislation to 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: ban stock training for members of Congress and the President 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: and Vice president after years of discussions. 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 4: With just hours to go until President Trump's Friday deadline, 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: when hefty tariffs kick in for global trading partners that 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 4: haven't reached a deal, the President announcing an agreement with 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 4: South Korea for billions of dollars in new US investment 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 4: and fifteen percent tariffs on goods entering the US. 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: It's literally trillions of dollars ultimately being brought into our country. 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: We're now negotiating with various other countries. 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 5: Cheered. 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 6: Jerome Powell cited Trump's tariffs as a driving force behind 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 6: the Fed's decision to leave interest rates unchanged for seven 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 6: straight months, to the deep disappointment of the developer in chief. 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: We're keeping the rates high and it's hurting people from 21 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: buying houses, so we don't want that. 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 7: There was better than expected news today on the economy. 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 7: America's gross domestic product, the nation's output of goods and 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 7: services rebounded from negative territory in the first three months 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 7: of the year to a healthy three percent annual pace 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 7: from April through June. 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 5: Remember those stimulus checks from the pandemic, money deposited into 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 5: your bank account from the federal government will A similar 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 5: idea has been introduced on Capitol Hill, not because of 30 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 5: global health emergency maybe on the horizon, but because of 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: all of the revenue being brought in through tariffs. Senator 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 5: Josh Holly of Missouri has officially introduced this piece of 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 5: legislation entitled American Worker Rebate Act to tenty twenty five. 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 5: It's based on the belief of the federal government is 35 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 5: bringing in a record amount of tariff revenue and as 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 5: a result, the American people deserve a cut. 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 8: Read the documents for yourself, and then you can see 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 8: as you go through the documents how in the months 39 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 8: leading up to the election, the intelligence community consistently assessed 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 8: that Russia had neither the intent nor the capability to 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 8: be able to influence or swing the election for Donald Trump. 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Jack Sobecurie are live human events daily Washington, DC, Today 43 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: is July thirty first, twenty twenty five Anno. Dominie. Well, folks, 44 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: massive revelations in the DNI whistleblower documents. I've read all 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: nineteen pages of this whistleblower document, and now we have 46 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: this Durham annex that's also been released highly classified intelligence 47 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: showing that there was information held by the intelligence community 48 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: members of the US government that Hillary wanted to engage 49 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: in this conspiracy to blame everything on some connection between 50 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: Trump and Russia, and that in fact, members of their 51 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: own intelligence community knew that the Russians knew this as well. Look, folks, 52 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: we can go through all this and I will in 53 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: great detail, but it is clear. Let's go to the 54 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: top line. It is clear that members of the United 55 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: States government entered into a criminal conspiracy with members of 56 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: the Hillary campaign, other members of which later became officials 57 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: in the Biden administration, like Jake Sullivan for in Newland 58 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: as well comes to mind. They planned to interfere with 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen election and later the incoming Trump administration. 60 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: These documents detailed plans to demonize Putin and demonize Russia 61 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: and demonize a fake conspiracy of collusion between the two 62 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: of them. It also mentions at one point that CrowdStrike 63 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: had no direct evidence of who hacked the DNC server, 64 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: and yet they were going to go out publicly and 65 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: demonize Russia anyway. All of this led to a proxy 66 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: war that was the goal. The war it was originally 67 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: supposed to take place during the Hillary administration. That never happened. 68 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: The war is now taking place which began during the 69 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: Biden administration on Ukrainian soil. Proxy war between the United 70 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: States and Russia. This has always been their goal for 71 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: regime change in Russia. What do we see in these documents, Well, 72 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: we see most importantly evidence of criminal acts. 73 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 9: And when we. 74 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: Talk about these acts, the lies, the use of the FBI, 75 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: the use of the federal government. You tie that in 76 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: with the Russia Gate disclosures and declassifications from d n I. Gabbert. 77 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: What you begin to see is that it was clear 78 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: from the start that this was a plot against the president. 79 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: To use the term of the Great Amandamilius movie, and 80 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: this was a seditious conspiracy to stop President Trump, initially 81 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: from becoming President the United States and then later from 82 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: being able to enact his policies. The policies which were 83 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: supported by the vast majority of the American people in 84 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: the electoral College in twenty sixteen and then the popular 85 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: vote in twenty twenty four. We all ask bouts of 86 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: questions about twenty twenty So where do we go from here? Well, 87 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: information that I've received would indicate that one of the 88 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: big hurdles that's going to have to be pushed is, 89 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: of course a DC jury pool. If you bring charges 90 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: like this in Washington, DC, nobody with a D next 91 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: to their name is going to be convicted. Well, the 92 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: DJ is well aware of this, and there are plans afoot, 93 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: shall we say, to make sure that a DC jury 94 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: pool doesn't necessarily need to enter into the question why? 95 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: Because a conspiracy such as this, that means that any 96 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: act in furtherance of the conspiracy could establish venue like, 97 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: for example, I don't know, a raid on mar A 98 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: Lago to retrieve the Russia Gate documents. Well, that would 99 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: mean that Palm Beach or the Southern District of Florida 100 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: would be the appropriate venue if somebody made a phone 101 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: call from there, if something happened down there. We'll just 102 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: have to see about that. But the question of venue 103 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: is one that is very very much being asked at 104 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: the highest levels. So the way that Deep State, We'll 105 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: be right back, Jack Pasobic, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily. 106 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: Thing, We'll stand in our way and our Golden Age 107 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: has just begun. 108 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: This Human Events with Jack Soobat. Now it's time for 109 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: everyone to understand what America first truly means. 110 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 10: Welcome to the Second American Revolution. 111 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Our jackersvik here, we are back Human Events Daily, Real 112 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: America's Voice. Rainy day here in Washington, DC. You can 113 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: see that are our live cam. The rain is hitting now, 114 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: storm blue right d suppose we be rain for the 115 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: rest of the day. Tanya wanted to take kids down 116 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: to the Chesapeake Bay Beach. I don't know if that 117 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: is going to happen now, but we are here on 118 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: Human Events and we're going to be breaking down the rest. 119 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: We're excited to have on. Colonel Douglas McGregor joined us. Now, Colonel, 120 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: how are you great? 121 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 9: Jack? 122 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: And now Colonel these documents that have just been released, 123 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: and we originally wanted to come in for a sit 124 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: rep with you on you brain, but if I could 125 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: get your quick reaction just to what we're hearing, that's 126 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: breaking in the news right now. 127 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 11: Well, Jack, I think your summary has been very helpful. 128 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 11: I haven't had the chance to read through all of 129 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 11: those documents. I've got a lot of other things on 130 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 11: my plate right now, but I think what you revealed 131 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 11: is certainly not a surprise. 132 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 9: It's more disappointment. 133 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 11: But I think everybody needs to understand that nothing has 134 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 11: changed since Trump was president the last time around. Many 135 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 11: of those same people are still in positions of influence 136 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 11: and power. The lies about Russia, the lies about what's 137 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 11: been happening in Ukraine, the lies about what's going on 138 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 11: in the Middle East. I mean, these things have been 139 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 11: wrapped into narratives, carefully packaged by the CIA, AM I six, 140 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 11: and Masad and disseminated to the American population. I think 141 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 11: Americans are beginning to get. 142 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 9: An inkling of just how much they've been lied to. 143 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 11: But you know what's really bad about all of it, Jack, 144 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 11: is that it suggests that our ballot box is just 145 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 11: broken because it doesn't really matter who you vote for, 146 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 11: you pretty much get the same outcome over and over 147 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 11: and over again. 148 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: And unfortunately it seems to me now you know, we 149 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: were talking about Ukraine, and that was the original planet. 150 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: But I had this. I have this suspicion that people 151 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: like Victoria Noulin, Jake Sullivan, and Hillary Clinton they wanted 152 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: this Ukraine debacle all along and all of this, and 153 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: you hear it. You're reading these documents. Demonize the Russians, 154 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: demonize the Russians the same way we did over the Olympics. 155 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: That's actually what it says in some of these emails. 156 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: And they talk about running these media campaigns on the 157 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: American people to predicate what seems to me a proxy 158 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: war against the Russians, and in this case they're doing 159 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: so on the territory of the Ukrainian state. Hillary of 160 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: course didn't win, but it seems as far back as 161 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: the summer of twenty sixteen and this was already to plan. 162 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: So it's and I'll defer to you, but it seems 163 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: to me as though what we're seeing take place on 164 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: the battlefield in Ukraine right now is actually something that 165 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: goes far far back into the past and has been 166 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: a plan of these globalists all along. 167 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 9: Oh listen, Jack, You're absolutely right. 168 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 11: The truth of the matter is that once Putin came 169 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 11: to power in Russia and demonstrated that he was going 170 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 11: to go after the oligarchs. They were essentially raping Russia, 171 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 11: raping its financial wealth, raping its natural wealth, its mineral resources. 172 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 11: You know, people like Bill Browner, who's a perfect example 173 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 11: of what was in the country at the time in 174 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 11: the late nineties, at early part of Putin's rule. You know, 175 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 11: these people wanted to destroy Russia. They wanted to rape it, 176 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 11: they wanted to divide it up, and ultimately they wanted 177 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 11: to remove Putin. And they were shocked when Putin came 178 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 11: in and was able to turn this country around. I mean, 179 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 11: Russia was circling the drain. He's now made it a 180 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 11: great power, and he's capitalized on this war that he 181 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 11: didn't want. But we started by weaponizing Ukraine and turning 182 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 11: it into a battering ram against Russia and its people. 183 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 11: But all the people that did that are still with us, Jack, 184 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 11: Most of them are still in the Central Intelligence Agency. 185 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 11: Most of them are operating inside the State Department and 186 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 11: the Hill, which has a cocktail level of familiarity with everything. 187 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 11: They know a lot about everything and nothing about anything. 188 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 11: They're still saddled up with all the same people believing 189 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 11: all the laws, which is another reason nothing changes. So 190 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 11: along of course, with the widespread corruption that ensures everyone 191 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 11: is paid handsomely for their support of bad policy. 192 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Well, and many of those oligarchs that you mentioned that 193 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: were set up during really Yelton administration in Russia during 194 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties was done so with the backing of 195 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: President then President Bill Clinton. He was the one who 196 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: was driving this policy. So rather than try to work 197 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: with Russia and bring Russia into NATO, bring Russia into 198 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: some kind of security agreement with the West or or 199 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: Western Europe at the time, the idea was that, which 200 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: was the publicly stated plan. Instead it became this new 201 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: goal of trying to strip the resources and extract whatever 202 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: economic value they could from Russia. And this so much 203 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: of this, by the way, goes into the Clinton Foundation 204 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: and their dealings as well. 205 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 9: Oh, you're one hundred percent on target check. 206 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 11: What I would add is that I was involved in 207 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 11: the Balkan fiasco, both in Bosnia and then heavily involved 208 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 11: obviously in what happened in Kosovo. And I can tell 209 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 11: you a couple of things that the people that were 210 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 11: involved with those things, people like Tony Blinken, they were 211 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 11: understudying Madeline Albright Strobe Talbot, Sandy Berger al Gore, the 212 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 11: people that are really driving the insanity. 213 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 9: In the Balkans. 214 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 11: It's a very sad story, but the real goal at 215 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 11: the time of the Balkans was, first, we're going to 216 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 11: sweep away everyone who opposes us to the Balkans. Then 217 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 11: we're going to turn Yugoslavia into some sort of fiefdom 218 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 11: that we govern through some puppet, and then finally we're 219 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 11: going to start this great revolution that's going to change everything, regime, 220 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 11: change everyone. All the way to Moscow, I was told 221 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 11: that point blank, and we knew, we knew, everybody in 222 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 11: the Pentagon knew very well that going into the Balkans 223 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 11: was very dangerous. It's not only is it a place 224 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 11: where nothing survives contact. The place is impenetrable and incapable 225 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 11: of fundamentally changing. 226 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 9: In the ways that everybody would like. 227 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 11: But it's more important to that it's part of Russia's 228 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 11: area of what I call insecurity. The Russians helped deliberate 229 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 11: the Balkans from the Turks, and the people in the 230 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 11: Balkans are, for the most. 231 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 9: Part as a result pro Russian. 232 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 11: They're grateful to the Orthodox Christian power that rescued them 233 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 11: from Islam, and when we go in there, we're actually 234 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 11: operating on their turf. And that's what we've done in Ukraine. 235 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 11: And the outcome is that now Russia is fully militarized. 236 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 11: It's stronger than it's ever been. It's got the best 237 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 11: army it's fielded, certainly since the early eighties, late seventies. 238 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 9: I would argue, it's even better. 239 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 11: It's got better technology, It's infinitely more capable than anything 240 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 11: we feel right now. And that's very dangerous because we 241 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 11: have a lot of people in Washington that continue to 242 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 11: talk loosely about this thing called war. Jack is scary. 243 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 11: None of these people know what the hell they're talking about. 244 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 11: None of them are being to war, you know, operating 245 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 11: out of a Ford Operating base in Iraq or Afghanistan 246 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 11: and doing a few patrols. 247 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 9: That's not war. 248 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 11: The people who have seen most of the action in 249 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 11: these places are special Operations forces, and you know, that's 250 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 11: a kind of warfare. But that's that's not decisive in 251 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 11: wars between great powers. So now we're talking about war 252 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 11: with Russia's where that's where we are right now. 253 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: Well, and we saw it just last night and I 254 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: was watching some of this footage telegram and different channels 255 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: where I can get access to it. Massive bombardment of Iev, 256 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: of the capital of Ukraine by the Russians in response 257 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: to a lot that's going on on the Eastern Front, 258 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: something three hundred drones combined with missiles, Which is strange 259 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: because I was told by all of the Western military 260 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: experts that Russia was going to run out of missiles 261 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: and run out of drones, and that they had no capacity. 262 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: And yet they seem perfectly capable of being able to 263 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: strike anywhere in Ukraine with almost impunity through the air. 264 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: And at the same time we see Russian forces enveloping 265 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: city after city on the Eastern Front right now as 266 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: we speak here in the end of July. 267 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 11: Well, I guess Americans will eventually figure out that Santa 268 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 11: Claus died in the same car accident that killed the 269 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 11: Good Fairy and the Easter Bunny. Look, we've been lied 270 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 11: to about everything about Russia. The Russians have been very methodical, 271 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 11: very deliberate, and they had to build up a much 272 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 11: larger force to deal with the thread in Ukraine than anticipated. 273 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 11: They've done that, and that force is a modern twenty 274 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 11: first century force with massive emphasis on strike linked to intelligence, surveillance, 275 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 11: reconnaissance from seabed to space, and so what they're doing 276 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 11: to avoid casualties is systematically moving forward and annihilating everything 277 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 11: that Ukraine has left. 278 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 9: On the battlefield. 279 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 11: Now, that was always one of their objectives, but it 280 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 11: is finished to this point, almost completely. You're looking at 281 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 11: one point five to one point eight million dead Ukrainian soldiers, 282 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 11: another million or two that were wounded, most of whom 283 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 11: will never return to duty because Ukraine hasn't got the 284 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 11: medical infrastructure and. 285 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 9: It's armed forces to save lives. 286 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 11: So this whole thing is collapsing, it's falling apart, but 287 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 11: the Russians aren't taking any chances. 288 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 9: They are systematically. 289 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 11: Vacuuming up everything they run into and it either surrenders 290 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 11: or dies, and they are now prepared to move on Kiev. 291 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 11: It's something they haven't wanted to do, but I think 292 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 11: they realize now this is cancer. This is the kind 293 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 11: of cancer that you see with tumors, and cutting out 294 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 11: the tumor is not enough. You've got to go around 295 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 11: the tissue that is connected to the tumor to make 296 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 11: sure the margins are clear. That means you've got to 297 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 11: cross the Upper River, you've got to go into Kief, 298 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 11: and you've got to take Odessa. And we're going to 299 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 11: watch these happen in the next month or two. How rapidly, 300 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 11: I don't know, but they're not going to take any 301 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 11: unnecessary casualties. We think the Russians have lost perhaps one 302 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 11: hundred and twenty thousand men. 303 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 9: We think that they're auxiliaries with the. 304 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 11: Chechens and some of the auxiliaries out of the netscoul 305 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 11: Hunsk probably another twenty thousand. Well, if you compare two 306 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 11: hundred or one hundred and sixty or seventy thousand to 307 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 11: one point eight million dead, that's a horrific exchange ratio. 308 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 11: It's the kind of ratio that we saw at the 309 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 11: end of World War Two between the Germans Us and 310 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 11: the Russians. Because the Germans fell apart and they had 311 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 11: to fall back, they took terrible casualties. 312 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 9: And that's what's happening now. 313 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: And you're seeing so many of these issues where people 314 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: are being forcefully recruited. Recruitment number recruitment age going up 315 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: to I think sixty is one of the latest that 316 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I saw. I believe it was the telegraph most recently, folks, 317 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: we have a quick break coming up. We're on with 318 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: Colonel Douglas McGregor. We're talking about sort of the history 319 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: of US Russia US Ukraine relations, how this all formulated 320 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: and pustulated into the Ukraine War that is currently being 321 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: prosecuted on the territory of Ukraine right now, be right back. 322 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: Even Events Daily, Real Market's Voice. 323 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 9: You talk about influencers. These are influencers. 324 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: And their friends and mine Jack Jack. 325 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: Jack Zelvic back live Human Events Daily, Brial America's Voice. 326 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: We're conducting a sit down, a sit rep really with 327 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: Colonel Douglas McGregor regarding Russia Ukraine, what's going on on 328 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: the battlefield. We talked about how it ties back to 329 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, the documents now being released on Russia Gate 330 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: by d and I Tulci Gabbard And by the way, 331 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: Colonel McGregor, d and I Gabbert is another one like 332 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: Secretary Kennedy and many others who came into the ADMIN 333 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: really calling for the United States to stop the Ukraine 334 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: War as soon as possible and our support for it. 335 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: Yet we seem to be still bogged down in this quagmire. 336 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: And all I can see on the battle front of 337 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean, think about what happened just over the past 338 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: few days. President Trump calls for ten days of a deadline, 339 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: and what happens that evening Kiev gets hit with three 340 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: hundred drones and dozens of missiles immediately after. So it 341 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: seems that the Russians are not listening to Trump. 342 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 11: No, no, Jack, You're right, they aren't, and people shouldn't 343 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 11: mistake what's going on as some sort of reaction to 344 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 11: anything that President Trump says or does. The Russians are 345 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 11: pursuing their own offensive operation designed to terminate the war 346 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 11: on their terms. 347 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 9: That's what you're seeing. 348 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 11: That will involve ultimately Russian intervention directly into Kief with 349 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 11: troops as well as down to Odessa. 350 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 9: The sad part is that we have lied so often. 351 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 11: You know, you can go all the way back before 352 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 11: twenty fourteen, You can go back to the nineties, all 353 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 11: the things that we said and all the things we did, 354 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 11: you know, the sort of systematic abandoning of arms control arrangements, 355 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 11: you know, when there was no real urgent reason to 356 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 11: abandon any of them, All of the things leading up 357 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 11: to the Menska. 358 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 9: Cords, which were just you know, myths. No one ever. 359 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 11: Intended to fulfill any of the obligations that was designed 360 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 11: to buy time to build up Ukraine. All of this 361 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 11: kind of business has happened, you know, the discovery of 362 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 11: all the bio labs in Ukraine where they were conducting 363 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 11: genetic experiments designed to kill Slavs. I mean, good lord, 364 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 11: you know this sort of thing is is worse in 365 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 11: some of the Soviet and Nazi stuff. So the Russians 366 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 11: don't believe us, and they're going to do what they're 367 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 11: going to do. And I don't know what President Trump 368 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 11: thinks any more sanctions will do. The sanctions haven't held 369 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 11: Russia back. Russia is doing a land office business. It's 370 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 11: now the fourth largest economy in the world. You know, 371 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 11: that's a pretty heady achievement in the middle of a war. 372 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 11: So I don't know what President Trump is doing now. 373 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: I have heard, actually I actually saw the Russians shut 374 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: their interest rates yesterday too. 375 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 9: Yeah. 376 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 11: Well, the other thing is that I'm hearing foolish statements 377 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 11: inside the Beltway from go, well, it's time for us 378 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 11: to use Tomahawk missiles. 379 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 9: You know, let me tell you something. 380 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 11: If you continue these long range strikes, the Russians have 381 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 11: missile supremacy. They'll flatten whatever they need to in Eastern Europe, 382 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 11: and we should not exclude the possibility that we are immune. 383 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 11: This age of immunity because we sit between two oceans 384 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 11: is over. We've got to start behaving responsibly towards others. 385 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 9: We haven't been doing that. 386 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 11: And if you press this far enough, you're going to 387 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 11: end up with exactly what Dmitri Trenein, the former Russian 388 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 11: senior auser in Moscow, worked for the Carnegian doll It. 389 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 11: He explains that Russia is now preparing for war and 390 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 11: they're serious and they know how to do it. They 391 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 11: have the huge scientific industrial base with military manufacturing. We 392 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 11: don't have that capacity, and they're ready to fight. They 393 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 11: have a nation that's ready to fight. They have a 394 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 11: cohesive society. You know, Jack, somebody said to me, we 395 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 11: should prepare to go, oh and take back eastern Ukraine. 396 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 11: You know what I said. I think we should take 397 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 11: back Los Angeles. I wouldn't worry about eastern Ukraine. And 398 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 11: I think that's our great vulnerability right now. We are 399 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 11: not a cohesive society. We've got serious problems here. Anybody 400 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 11: who watched the Los Angeles Riots and all these foreign 401 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 11: flags Mexican, El Salvador and whatever, the statements shooting at 402 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 11: Ice aw Series and so forth. 403 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 9: This is outrageous. That's where we should be focused. 404 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 11: And that too was something that President Trump promised he 405 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 11: was going to address as it happened. 406 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's also what you say. One of 407 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: the big forces that drove President Trump and the MAGA 408 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: movement to political success in all of these campaigns was 409 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: the idea that we would stop focusing on these far 410 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: off conflicts and start focusing on the problems at home. 411 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 1: I've been speaking. I'm written up in Politico right now. 412 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: If we're talking about how what we essentially have within 413 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: the United States, you can call them fifth columns, but 414 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: what they really are a mini nation. These many ethnic 415 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: enclaves that refer to themselves as part of Mexico or 416 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: part of Somalia, or wherever, part of Palace, wherever it 417 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: might be, wherever it might be. They have affinity and 418 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: allegiance clearly towards the home country, and they view US 419 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: as a sort of post for their economic extraction. But 420 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: they bear no allegiance and some of them have citizenships, 421 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: some of have visas. But that's not the point. Is 422 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: they view themselves as separate from America. 423 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 9: You're one hundred percent on target check. 424 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 11: And that's why I when I was working for President 425 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 11: Trump and I was asked point blank in front of 426 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 11: then Secretary of Defense esper and his sidekick, I guess 427 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 11: it was O'Brien, what is the existential threat to the 428 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 11: United States today? What's the greatest existential thread. It's not China, 429 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 11: it's not Russia. It's what's happening in the Caribbean, based 430 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 11: in Mexico and their infiltration into the United States and 431 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 11: the destruction of our society. Or two were absolutely shocked, 432 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 11: couldn't believe it. And President that was the last thing 433 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 11: we discussed. President Trump nodded and then thanked me, and 434 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 11: that ended the discussion that went on for about forty 435 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 11: five to fifty minutes. It was supposed to be only 436 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 11: ten or fifteen. But the bottom line is that he 437 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 11: knows that. But you know, he is in the hands 438 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 11: of people that elected him and funded him, and he's 439 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 11: listening to them instead of listening to his own inner voice. 440 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 11: He needs to listen to his own inner voice, and 441 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 11: that would tell him we need to get all these 442 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 11: ground forces back from Europe, get them back to the 443 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 11: United States, ultimately get them out of. 444 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 9: Japan and Korea. 445 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 11: We're going to need all of it here in the 446 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 11: United States to deal with exactly what you described, Jack. 447 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 9: You're one hundred percent right now. 448 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: The greatest foreign threat is already here. It's already here 449 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: within our own nations, within our own cities, within our 450 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: own towns. In many cases, Colonel MacGregor, we just got 451 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: a minute left. Where can people go to follow you 452 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: and to get access to all your work and what 453 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: you're putting out. 454 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 11: Well, I've got a website called Douglas McGregor dot com 455 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 11: and you're certainly free to go there. 456 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 9: You can see some of the things we've done. 457 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 11: Recently, I did an episode where we went down to 458 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 11: the border and we had a great visit there. We 459 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 11: talked to somebody named Doc Chambers, who's now running for 460 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 11: governor of the state of Texas, a great man, a 461 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 11: lot of people former military and a lot of people 462 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 11: in the border patrol as well as sheriffs, who's a 463 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 11: very educational thing. We saw the good things that have 464 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 11: happened in so far as the large numbers pouring through 465 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 11: the border have been stopped, but the legal ports of entry, 466 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 11: the child trafficking, the drugs continue to flow through there 467 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 11: because the cartels have enough money to effectively buy everybody off. 468 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 11: So people are letting these things go through and truckloads 469 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 11: of cash, hundreds of millions of dollars are loaded and 470 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 11: then ships south into Mexico and nobody stops them. 471 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: No, we need If we're going to go after anyone, 472 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: let's go after them the way we went after Iran 473 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: or any of these other groups. 474 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 9: Jack is Jack? Where's Jack worthy? Jack? I want to 475 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 9: see you. Great job, Jack, Thank you. What does job 476 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 9: you do? 477 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 11: You know we have an incredible thing. 478 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 9: We're always talking about. 479 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: The fake news of the band, but we have guys, 480 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: and these are the guys. 481 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 9: You're forgetting bullishes. 482 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: All right, Jack PACOBC live Rainy, Washington, DC. Here at 483 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: today July thirty first, twenty twenty five. 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You managed to find me yesterday 513 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 12: so to s at a lot of people. 514 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: Well, we're able to find you elicive when it comes 515 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: to media at least. But yeah, guys, I don't know 516 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: if you have that that photo that's been kind of 517 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: making the rounds of of you and I outside of Butter. Now, 518 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: now I want to I want to set this up 519 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: for everybody that those protests are you you're running butter worse. 520 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: You've got this. It's it's the hottest. It's the MAGA 521 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: club on uh, you know, Capitol Hill, et cetera. All 522 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: the events are there, people are there, and these protesters 523 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: that and we have this picture of us. They weren't 524 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: there just for the event. They're there all the time, 525 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: is what I'm hearing. 526 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, we've amassed quite a fan club on Pennsylvania Avenue, 527 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 12: which is which is quite cute, I think, and and 528 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 12: you know, quite actually welcome. I support people's freedom of 529 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 12: expression as long as they're not harassing customers. Sometimes they do, 530 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 12: by the way, Sometimes they do takeing megaphone to try 531 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 12: and scream in people's ears. And they've been warned by 532 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 12: police time and time again not to get into that 533 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 12: kind of physical assault outside a restaurant and, by the way, 534 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 12: in a residential neighborhood. But broadly speaking, look, I remember 535 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 12: when I first got involved in politics. You know, we 536 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 12: were kind of the protest party. We were the outsiders. 537 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 12: We were the ones not let into the clubs and 538 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 12: the rooms and the fancy events and the celebrations. We 539 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 12: weren't the ones around the policy tables. We weren't the 540 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 12: ones who knew the cabinet members and ministers all around 541 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 12: the world. 542 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 9: And my, how the tables have turned. 543 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 12: I was speaking with a reporter this morning, Jack, who 544 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 12: said something like, you know, with all of the riffs 545 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 12: that have occurred inside the conservative movement over the years, 546 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 12: you know, you would have thought the left could get 547 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 12: their acts together. And I said, actually, you know, if 548 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 12: the left were not those cringey, poorly dressed, quite frankly 549 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 12: smelly goons who show up outside the restaurant to harass 550 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 12: not just us, by the way, but they're harassing the 551 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 12: entire street. 552 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 9: I feel bad for our neighbors. I feel bad for 553 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 9: the tourists. 554 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: Just you know, you get you get the tourists. So 555 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: the tour groups are back in DC, and for folks 556 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: that aren't in town, it's it's these are the groups. 557 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: And I always talk about this because the media never 558 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: brings them up. They're They're like the the you know, 559 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: your Middle America type tourists, kids on school trips from 560 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: places like Kentucky. Nicholas Edmond, right, Nicholas Ammond was one 561 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: of these groups when he came from Covington, Kentucky to 562 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: participate in the Pro Life argives they have no idea 563 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: what DC is like when they actually get there. 564 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 9: It's so true. And I noticed that, you know, a. 565 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 12: Couple of a couple of portly lesbians that will pass 566 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 12: kind of give him a thumbs up. But for the 567 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 12: most part, the people who look at them and who 568 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 12: hear them and listen to their messaging, you know, these 569 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 12: guys are are foaming at the mouth. 570 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 9: For a start. 571 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 12: They look drug addled beyond recognition, and they treat people 572 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 12: totally inhumanly, you know, screaming in their ears and such. 573 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 12: And most people look at them and go, wow, I 574 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 12: want nothing to do with them. I want nothing to 575 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 12: do with their messaging. Even if they agreed, even if 576 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 12: they weren't pro Trump or pro Magnet, they look at 577 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 12: these people and go, I want nothing to do with that. 578 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 12: So in a lot of ways, you know, we took 579 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 12: that frankly iconic picture outside of Butterworths last night, But 580 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 12: frankly I welcome these people because they really are showing 581 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 12: what a chasm of difference there is between us. 582 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: And by the way, we actually have some of the 583 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: audio because I didn't as I was walking up and 584 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: I was filming them, I didn't realize someone was filming me, 585 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: And so that's now been that's now been released. I 586 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: want to play that audio right now for everyone so 587 00:32:46,960 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: they can see it. Wow, reraheme. You might even use 588 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: the word unhumans. I don't know, but you look at 589 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: that and they're just screaming it. Ever and were You 590 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: can't really see it in these videos, but there were 591 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: children walking around. I remember, people with their families. I mean, 592 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: it's so close to Capitol Hills. So if you've gone 593 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: to any of the spots near there, and there's lots 594 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: of tourist spots near their Library of Congress is nearby, 595 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Courts within walking distance the capital itself, obviously, so 596 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: people are just looking to get a bite to eat. 597 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that you know, I'm sure that your restaurant, 598 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: along with all the others around there, you just get 599 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: people ducking in because they happen to be in the 600 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: area and they're looking for food and they run into 601 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: this cavalcade of disgusting, petulant, petty and really really smelly freaks. 602 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 12: What's really really funny about it. When it first happened, 603 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 12: I was sort of like, oh, no, you know, this 604 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 12: is a this is a nuisance. I mean, they very 605 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 12: much are a public nuisance. 606 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 9: That's that's very clear. 607 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 12: But the more I look at it now, it's this 608 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 12: and the reason I'm so happy to stand outside the 609 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 12: restaurant with you as we did and watch them. You know, 610 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 12: I don't regard them as enemies. I regard them as entertainment. 611 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 12: The reason so much to let America see these people 612 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 12: for who they are is because it's you know, for 613 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 12: all of the press that goes on around Batterleworths, and 614 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 12: it's magnus we have left wingers in there all the time. 615 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 9: Liberal reporters in there all the time. 616 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 12: Senator John Fetterman comes in there, Bernie Sanders staffers come 617 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 12: in there. You know, people of no political persuasion coming 618 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 12: their locals from. 619 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 9: The neighborhood come in there. 620 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 12: And it's just so it's so telling of the left 621 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 12: that again, you know, we've seen it in the last 622 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 12: what forty eight hours, seventy two hours with the Sydney stuff, 623 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 12: is they are always willing, always willing to throw the 624 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 12: baby out with the bath wall, to try to generalize, 625 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 12: to try and make what they think is a wider point. 626 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 12: And this is how they keep pushing people further and 627 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 12: further away, you know. 628 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: And I don't even want to get into some of 629 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: the stuff they were screaming, but they do very weirdly 630 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: make everything immediately sexual. They tell you what they think about, 631 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: they tell you what they're upset about when they use this, 632 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: and if you actually listen. By the way, there's been people, 633 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: I think, between Natalie Winters and Brickwoot people have been asking, oh, 634 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: is this guy there was this Bricks It's trying to 635 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: find this one girl who's there. He thinks he can 636 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: fix her. I'm like Brick, No, I don't don't do it, man, 637 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: don't do it, Brick, and he's asking Jack just to 638 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: let me know, was she there? Can I come back? 639 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: Maybe I get her number? But it really shows you 640 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: what animates them. And the Sydney Sweeney thing is emblematic. 641 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: It's all resentment. It's all resentment and envy at its core. 642 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: All this nonsense about you know, justice and equality and diversity, 643 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with that. There's absolutely nothing 644 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: to do with that. They want to be in control. 645 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: They want this level of power. And I think we 646 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: have video from from some of the others. 647 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 9: I know we have video there. 648 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: There was also a video Steve Bannon going in, so 649 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: see we can get that at some point. And you know, 650 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: it's it's this is who they are, this is what 651 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: they do. We have audio this guy now, okay, he's 652 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: just screamed. 653 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 9: We give it. 654 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: They just they want to get in. They want to 655 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, they want to be the ones in charge. 656 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: They want to have the ability to put you down 657 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: because they know what they're core. The This is the reason, 658 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: by the way, that they are a hate movement. And 659 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't mean that in the sense of like, oh, 660 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: we have to fight hatred. It's just no, it's that's 661 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: what animates them. Hatred, animosity. They hate the fact that 662 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: you are success, useful. They hate the fact that you 663 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: are able to get married and go to church and 664 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: have a house and have a business. And they target 665 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: the things that they hate because ultimately, they're resentful against 666 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: society for existing. They're resentful against society for existing the 667 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: way that it does. They hate the world, and at 668 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: its core, they hate God for creating them. They hate 669 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: God for the fact that they exist, because it's most 670 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: ultimate for they hate themselves. They hate themselves. And so 671 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: everything you see is projection. Everything you see, the sexuality, 672 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: the degenera, see all of it. It is total projection. 673 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: Wrote a book about this. It's called Unhumans, Secret History 674 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them because we 675 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: are able to unpack the fact that communism is not 676 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: a philosophy, it is a tech. Right back, Jack psoa 677 00:37:53,120 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: grill micro's voice. 678 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 10: Jack is a great guys, everybody's talking about it. Go 679 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 10: get it. From the beginning, we're going to turn around. 680 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: Oh all right, that was Stephen K. Bannon walking into 681 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: Butterworth's Last Night Article three. Project event celebrating the Great 682 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: Email Bove now a federal judge confirmed by the United 683 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: States Senate Mike Davis presiding. So Bannon was there, I 684 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: was there. Raheem was there as well, and so were 685 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: the protesters, the the unhumans, the disgusting, just just goblins 686 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: and creatures. And you really see just the direct contrast 687 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: of who they are versus who we are, what they 688 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: are and what we are. We're on with Raheem cazamt 689 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: ter in, chief of the National Pulse as well as 690 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: the proprietor of that establishment, Butterworth. Raheem, you you wanted 691 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: to comment on something where we were sort of I mean, 692 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: I love this and this is something you and I 693 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: have always gotten along on this because when we see crazy, 694 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: we want to poke it with a stick. We want 695 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: to understand how does that work? Why are you the 696 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: way that you are? And so what was one of 697 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: your observations? And really, as you've been watching them this 698 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: whole time. 699 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 12: Well, it's so funny because I'm so used to these 700 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 12: things by now. It reminded me very much of an 701 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 12: altercation in Philadelphia we had right after the stolen election 702 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 12: in twenty twenty where this girl was harassing a friend 703 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 12: of mine in the street, screaming, you know. 704 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 9: Are your parents proud of you? And things like that. 705 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 12: I just got up in her face and I just said, look, honey, 706 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 12: do you even know your father? 707 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 9: And you know you. 708 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,479 Speaker 12: Could see her eyes wide and eyed, clearly struck a nerve. 709 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 12: You know, she was all blue haired and tattooed up, 710 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 12: and she went absolutely ballistic in the street just that 711 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 12: one single pointed, needled comment at her. 712 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: And I three, are you are you saying that he 713 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: did a father relationship check? 714 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 9: I did a father relationship check. And I wish i'd. 715 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 12: I kind of we should have been able to do 716 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 12: it last night as well, because you know, between the hollow, 717 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 12: hollow eyed, tattooed girl who kind of wears sunglasses so 718 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 12: that people can't see how sad she is, the the lanky, 719 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 12: curly haired guy. 720 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 9: And by the way, I know all their names and 721 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 9: where they work. 722 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 12: We're not in the in the business of doxing, but 723 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 12: but we know who all these people are. Now we've 724 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 12: got we've got people who look into that kind of stuff. 725 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 12: But then that the funniest one was that fat guy 726 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 12: that you saw in the clips there at the end, 727 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 12: I mean, this is a young guy who is obese, 728 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 12: and he is screaming sexual heck at people walking up 729 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 12: and at one point, and I couldn't tell whether it 730 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 12: was at me or at you, or at some of 731 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 12: my friends in there or our colleagues, he said something like, 732 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 12: oh have you ever have you ever had sex with 733 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 12: a woman? And I thought to myself, number one, I 734 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 12: mean that from this guy is projection beyond. 735 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 13: Anything I could have possibly imagined project Everyone everyone around 736 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 13: at that point in time is married with children apart 737 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 13: from me. 738 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 9: And let me just put it this way. 739 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 12: I've never been accused of being virginal, So I just 740 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 12: guy the fact that this guy is screaming that at 741 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 12: people like us in the street. You know, it really 742 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 12: really tickled me because, as you say, it does really 743 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 12: show who they are deep down. 744 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: Ray, if I remember correctly, when you're up there in Philadelphia, 745 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: you were actually with PAMBANDI, weren't you. 746 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, that is right, that is right. Wasn't that right? 747 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: She was the one who sent for the Philadelphia to 748 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: stop the steal? 749 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 9: Yeah? 750 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, How the tables have turned, How the tides of change. 751 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: But that really is emblematic of it, right, we were 752 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: the ones you go back to twenty just twenty twenty, 753 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: you even have to go back prior to that. You know, 754 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: we were the ones who were standing outside saying, hey, 755 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: what are you doing in there? And now they're the 756 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: ones out. But of course at the time we know 757 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: what they were doing. They were running ballots through multiple 758 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: times and all the rest of it, checking things that 759 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: hadn't been hadn't been properly filed, et cetera. But now 760 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: we're the ones on the inside saying, look, we've we've 761 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: got this, and we saw how you acted, So why 762 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 1: should we let you inside? Why should we allow any 763 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: give here? And what would your advice be to the movement? 764 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: I suppose, and talking about where we are because we 765 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: do have this moment. And I worry though that because 766 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 1: midterms have effectively already begun in many cases, you're starting 767 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: to see the various contenders for statewide races now get in. 768 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: We've had a number of people on for you know, 769 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: Kentucky and South Carolina and some of these primaries that 770 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: once the mid terms happened, you know, it's this period 771 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: of sort of maga ascendants will turn into something else. 772 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: And so I really try to tell people guys, we 773 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: have about a year left of this. That's not a 774 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: lot of time. 775 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 9: Oh, I totally agree. 776 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 12: And you know, I'm probably one of the most cynical 777 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 12: people in the world when it comes to both amassing 778 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 12: and executing upon power. I think, you know, historically, at 779 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 12: least in my lifetime, the Left has been extremely good 780 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 12: at this. My experiences with the Blair government in the 781 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 12: United Kingdom. Of course, you know, the person who is 782 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 12: really behind that piece of Mandlson is now Lord Mandlson, 783 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 12: and he is now the UK ambassador to the United 784 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 12: States is actually but. 785 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 9: It works quite a lot. And you know, I. 786 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 12: Talk to these people now who've done it for decades 787 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 12: and decades, and everybody says the same thing. You have 788 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 12: to separate the signal from the noise, in the sense 789 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 12: that all of these protests, all of the complaints, all 790 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 12: of the fake news, all of the things that swirl 791 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 12: around any in every administration, they are necessarily designed to 792 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 12: pull you off course. If the course was as it 793 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 12: was stated during the campaign, then there is a long 794 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 12: way to go. There's even a long way to go 795 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 12: on the things that we think we're doing particularly well on. 796 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 12: I think we're doing pretty well on immigration and on deportations. 797 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 9: But we are doing a fraction of what we should 798 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 9: be doing. 799 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 12: I think we are doing particularly well in terms of economics, 800 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 12: but there is a long road ahead of us in 801 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 12: so many pitfalls. 802 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 9: In fact, there are traps along. 803 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 12: The way in the shape of continuing resolutions, in the 804 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 12: shape of higher government spending all of these things. There 805 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 12: are traps in the way in terms of how much 806 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 12: lobbyist cash is now swirling around the MARGA movement. 807 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 9: Laura Luma has been tweeting about this. I have been 808 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 9: tweeting about this. 809 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 12: It is pulling people away from their task and purpose 810 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 12: in Washington, DC, within the MARGA movement, and it. 811 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 9: Must be dressed and it must be halted. 812 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 12: I think now anybody who tells you that they know 813 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 12: how the midterms are going to go, or they know 814 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 12: who's going to be the next UOP nominee for president, 815 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 12: is straight up bsing you. I think the field is 816 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 12: so open, I think the grounds are so shifting on 817 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,959 Speaker 12: a day to day basis that you cannot possibly make 818 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 12: a firm prediction on on that stuff either way, which 819 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 12: is which is why you know, for the betting amongst us, 820 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 12: people are throwing money behind people like RFK to kind 821 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 12: of pull through the middle of a GOP field. Perhaps 822 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 12: that is dominated by you know, jd Vance and Marco 823 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 12: Rubio and maybe one or two others, But there's all 824 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 12: sorts of variables at play here, and it's and it's 825 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 12: the job of people like you and I to sit down, 826 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 12: to go through the data, to walk around, to talk 827 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 12: to people and and try and make our best estimates. 828 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: I think that's right as well. And of the day 829 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: the pressures when particularly when you look at the youth 830 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: boat and we'll have to have you on for we've 831 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: only got a couple of minutes left here to go 832 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: through this. But you look at the polls on where 833 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: the youth are right now, you're seeing this massive shift 834 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: to the right. And in many cases when people say, oh, 835 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm losing support and Trump, it's and they, particularly in 836 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: this age group, it's saying we have less support for 837 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: him because he's not going hard enough to the right, 838 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: that he's not delivering more on these things. And I 839 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: saw left this kind of laughing about this. No, I said, 840 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: you guys have no idea what's coming. This is the 841 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: COVID generation. This is the generation that you stole their 842 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: childhood and they want revenge. They just want full on revenge. 843 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, and I would say, you know, yes, they may 844 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 12: want some payback, but what they also want is something 845 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 12: to aspire to. 846 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 9: And I have yet seen many people really do that. 847 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 12: I mean, the greatest aspiration I think that you can 848 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 12: possibly have as a a teenager now is to have 849 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 12: your own YouTube channel or to become a brand influencer. 850 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 12: Seems pretty hollow to me. 851 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: Now, It certainly is. 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