Speaker 1: Real Time Crime. Welcome back to Real Time Crime. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Leo Lamar, and I have with me my
Speaker 1: very good friend. Oh my god, I promised myself I
Speaker 1: wouldn't cry. Do you want to have an acceptance speech?
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Speaker 1: good friend doesn't mean close friend. It doesn't mean best friend.
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Speaker 1: like a work acquaintance. Hold on, I'm rewriting my acceptance speech. Okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: anyway back to me. Thank you so much. I am
Speaker 1: very excited for this episode. Today we're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about a lawyer. This is a weird transition because I
Speaker 1: said I'm very excited about this episode, and now this
Speaker 1: first case is. But I think it's because sometimes that
Speaker 1: things are very dark, and not that these aren't like
Speaker 1: kind of weird stories, but they're a little more fun
Speaker 1: than than well, at least to start. Well. So, the
Speaker 1: first one is about a guy who hid a camera
Speaker 1: and kitty litter during a teens graduation r Rand Pedophile,
Speaker 1: and our next one is about two men hacking a
Speaker 1: gate Geese station and selling gas at a discounted rate.
Speaker 1: And then our last hot topic for today is about
Speaker 1: alleged robber who flees from police by hopping into a
Speaker 1: kayak which then capsizes L O L. We'll get into that,
Speaker 1: and our main case for today is about the new
Speaker 1: Netflix show that's streaming movie documentary, Keep Sweet, Pry and obey.
Speaker 1: You know it's about Mormons, so you already know where
Speaker 1: this is going, especially if it's in a true crime podcast, y'all.
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know I'm in New York.
Speaker 1: I'm in my hometown, New York, New York. I've got
Speaker 1: shows every day. If you're a New Yorker or in
Speaker 1: the Try state. Yeah, and you want to come see
Speaker 1: me live, please come and introduce yourselves to me. Not
Speaker 1: during the show though, well that usually happens whether I
Speaker 1: want them to or not. And I will tell you
Speaker 1: about this during the Mormon segment, because do I have
Speaker 1: a story for you, oh boy segment. The one time
Speaker 1: that I bombed, I just swept through my shirt was
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, Arizona with a table of Mormons. But I'll
Speaker 1: explain that later anyway, So you guys, I'm wearing a
Speaker 1: T shirt, which I never do. It's very uncomfortable for
Speaker 1: me to be seen in um popper clothing. Why is
Speaker 1: that to me? T shirts or like what you wear
Speaker 1: to bed? Okay, but but people wear them all the time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not people, Dmitri. I'm me. I'm trying
Speaker 1: trying to rack my brain and think of what you
Speaker 1: wear normally. I know you wear turtlenecks sometimes, but were turtlenecks.
Speaker 1: That's my whole thing. I only wear long sleep turtlenecks. Yeah, time,
Speaker 1: in this summertime, I own fourteen black turtlenecks. Okay, one
Speaker 1: is addressed, one is a crop top, one has no
Speaker 1: sleeves and is a crop top. But I still need
Speaker 1: to have the black turtleneck. I mean it's there's a variety.
Speaker 1: In the summertime, you were turtlenecks. Yeah, okay, Well we're stumbling, acro.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have enough time in this episode
Speaker 1: of Christmas Vacation. I just hate that you and my
Speaker 1: therapist say the same thing. Yeah, I don't think we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that this session, but um, this is
Speaker 1: a longer discussion. My mental illness is thriving in New
Speaker 1: York anyway. I am here in NYC really just living
Speaker 1: my best life. I'm I'm witnessing crimes left and right
Speaker 1: here are you guys. I just have to say, New York,
Speaker 1: you are You are disgusting and you know what you've done.
Speaker 1: It's dirty, It's dirty. I'm from New York as well,
Speaker 1: and I'm it's sad to hear this, but I will
Speaker 1: admit when I look at the news, is a lot
Speaker 1: out of crime coming out of New York right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of crime coming out of
Speaker 1: l A. I know l A has changed because it's
Speaker 1: a super liberal city. And on the highway there used
Speaker 1: to be signs that say banned guns or gun control now,
Speaker 1: but now the science says story or guns safely. So
Speaker 1: it's like even the liberals have guns and tarp your load,
Speaker 1: which I'm I think that's just for truckers with open
Speaker 1: I think that's what they say to Amber. Heard yet funny, yep,
Speaker 1: yet funny. That's that's where I come in. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into our hot topics for today. You guys,
Speaker 1: this first case is actually quite disturbing in my opinion.
Speaker 1: A lawyer is arrested after a hitting cameras found in
Speaker 1: kitty litter in the bathroom during a teen's graduation party.
Speaker 1: California lawyer by the name of Charles Gideon Correll was
Speaker 1: arrested after, like I said, they find this camera in
Speaker 1: kitty litter at a seventeen year old students graduation party.
Speaker 1: He's forty four. He was arrested did on charges of
Speaker 1: misdemeanor for electronic peeping. He was taken to County Jail
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, Marin County and reportedly the bail was
Speaker 1: in at fifteen thousand, in my opinion, not high enough.
Speaker 1: According to the police department there, they were called to
Speaker 1: the home on June fifteenth, day after my birthday. Few
Speaker 1: keeping that day holy after the residents found a GoPro
Speaker 1: camera in a cat litter box that had been placed
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. The camera had been recording for approximately
Speaker 1: thirty minutes prior to being discovered. No one at the
Speaker 1: party admitted they owned the camera. Pleae seize the camera
Speaker 1: and leader found footage of Correll allegedly recording himself putting
Speaker 1: the camera in the litter see, and that's why I
Speaker 1: said this. Obviously, this is a disturbing story and it's disgusting,
Speaker 1: but you and I like to make fun of people, right.
Speaker 1: This guy is a lawyer, right, and he's like supposedly
Speaker 1: representing people, but he goes to do something disgusting like
Speaker 1: this and accidentally turns on the go pro and records himself.
Speaker 1: Setting it up like be a big or more on dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe he just assumed the cats didn't have to poop
Speaker 1: that badly and wouldn't be moving things around so people
Speaker 1: wouldn't find it. But I mean, like he literally just
Speaker 1: pointed the camera like he wanted to be incriminated. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think, you know, sometimes when I hear
Speaker 1: about stories like this, I'm like, do you have such
Speaker 1: a much bigger fish to fry that you'd rather be
Speaker 1: in jail than in the outdoors. I mean maybe, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he did this on purpose. I don't
Speaker 1: think he recorded himself on purpose. I think he's an idiot,
Speaker 1: and I think he was like, all right, let me
Speaker 1: turn this on so it records and let me get
Speaker 1: into place, thinking maybe maybe he'll retrieve it later or
Speaker 1: likes he's like, yeah, it's working. It's like that scene
Speaker 1: from Meet the Parents when Ben Stiller is talking to
Speaker 1: the camera the whole time. I love it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I honestly don't remember that movie at all, but but
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm just gonna agree. Yeah, yeah, you know me.
Speaker 1: Um So, I don't know I think that, do you
Speaker 1: think he I mean, obviously, if he's putting a go
Speaker 1: pro in there, he intentionally wanted to record guests. As
Speaker 1: my thought, uh yeah, for sure. I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: hide a camera in someone else's bathroom because you want
Speaker 1: to get footage of cats going to the bathroom. I mean,
Speaker 1: you never know, he could be uh into beast reality.
Speaker 1: Then he should have his own cat and record that. No,
Speaker 1: he went there to a graduation party with seventeen year
Speaker 1: olds and eighteen year olds and he set up a
Speaker 1: camera in the bathroom because why because he's disgusting, you
Speaker 1: know it. Fittingly it was with the litter box, because
Speaker 1: he's a piece of ship. I wonder how close he
Speaker 1: was to the family because he knew there was gonna
Speaker 1: be a litter box in there. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: familiar enough with the home and the bathroom to know
Speaker 1: that there was going to be a place for him
Speaker 1: to dig a little hole and hide it, which I
Speaker 1: think a GoPro. Honestly, it's it's small, but it's not
Speaker 1: that small. It is noticeable. You know. It's not one
Speaker 1: of those little hitting cameras you buy at a super
Speaker 1: audio store that's just like a little dot that you'd
Speaker 1: put on your shirt or something that you'd see in
Speaker 1: aimes bond. You know, it's it's sizeable. It's want to
Speaker 1: step away from him hiding in the shower with one
Speaker 1: of those old fashioned VHS things on his shoulder. That
Speaker 1: would be more of like an indie film, you know,
Speaker 1: that'd be like really artful, but yeah, this is more
Speaker 1: like weird black mirror, poorly done sort of situation. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just love the idea of him digging through cat
Speaker 1: litter to then put uh camera in it and having
Speaker 1: just like just what did you think would happen? Because
Speaker 1: when you think about it, right, you need the lens
Speaker 1: to be clear to record, so it would be visible
Speaker 1: no matter what it's like he wanted to get caught in,
Speaker 1: my opinion depends unless it's one of those that has
Speaker 1: like the cover or like a door and the cat
Speaker 1: just kind of walks in. It was aiming out like,
Speaker 1: I don't know about cat litter to me treat. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm starting to realize. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't have a cat, but um but I'm familiar
Speaker 1: with the litter. I don't know. But I don't know
Speaker 1: that he necessarily knew this family. Like maybe he just
Speaker 1: brought a go pro and he's like, listen, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do something perfect. Let me go into the bathroom and
Speaker 1: see where I can hide this. And then was quick
Speaker 1: enough to be like, oh, hey, here's catletter. Let me
Speaker 1: try that because I'm so smart. I'm I'm so interested
Speaker 1: to see the all other footage from the go pro.
Speaker 1: That's just like from Chuck E Cheese. I mean, this
Speaker 1: guy sounds like a I don't feel like this was
Speaker 1: his first rodeo, No, although it's his first time setting
Speaker 1: it up and recording himself setting it up that we
Speaker 1: know of. That's true, that's true, that we know of.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know every party has a pooper, yeah, literally,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you hide it in it. I this is
Speaker 1: why I'm fine. The story is disgusting. The reason I'm
Speaker 1: finding some pleasure in talking about This is because this
Speaker 1: douche got caught, right, and he got caught by doing
Speaker 1: something stupid and and he didn't like But I can't
Speaker 1: get over the fact that this is a forty four
Speaker 1: year old lawyer. People go to this guy and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I need I need help view from you getting me
Speaker 1: out of this situation, I mean, or whatever, defending me
Speaker 1: whatever lawyer he may bee. Well, this is kind of
Speaker 1: like a um those who can't do teach sort of mentality.
Speaker 1: What if he's like, maybe this time I'll do the
Speaker 1: crab and I'll be the one to get away with
Speaker 1: it or have done I don't know, you know whatever. Anyway, more,
Speaker 1: all of the story is see you later, sucker. I
Speaker 1: have a feeling he they're going to raid his house
Speaker 1: and find a lot more footage. Is probably because I agree,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is like, oh, I just had
Speaker 1: an idea. But the question is, um, I guess I
Speaker 1: was reading the story and I'm not sure if he
Speaker 1: stuck around the party or if he like set it
Speaker 1: up and left. But they found it right, and then
Speaker 1: they started asking people whose is it and no one
Speaker 1: said yes, no one said it was there is obviously,
Speaker 1: But then once they like, was he there? When people
Speaker 1: look at her? The take the camera and find the like.
Speaker 1: But that's so great. Imagine being in a room of
Speaker 1: people and everyone being like, do you know who the
Speaker 1: perfect is here? Does? Does anyone want to raise their
Speaker 1: hand to being the Purv? Anyone want to be the Purv? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like you can't raise your hand? Oh my god, that
Speaker 1: just dropped right out of my pocket and started recording.
Speaker 1: How weird is that where I lost it? I was
Speaker 1: going splunking later and really needed it. What's his alibi? Insanity?
Speaker 1: Cat fetish? Like I mean, I'm always going to plead insanity.
Speaker 1: Cat fetish would honestly be the smart way to go,
Speaker 1: I think, because then he just wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: ever have a cat, which, in my opinion, is the
Speaker 1: way to go. Yeah, but I don't want him to
Speaker 1: get off, so I hope they well, he is getting
Speaker 1: off to something. Okay, you guys. This next story, honestly,
Speaker 1: I find kind of funny. Two men are accused of
Speaker 1: hacking a gas station and selling gas at a counted rate.
Speaker 1: Police took two men into custody and Virginia Beach and
Speaker 1: accused them of hacking gas pumps and at a discounted rate.
Speaker 1: Like I said, officer later learned that devices were being
Speaker 1: used to illegally access gas pumps. The gas was then
Speaker 1: being sold at a lower rate through a phone app
Speaker 1: and was being advertised on social media. Again, people just
Speaker 1: will want to get caught. Police have not confirmed the
Speaker 1: exact amount of gas that was stolen. However, they've determined
Speaker 1: that thousands of dollars of gas were taken from the
Speaker 1: business over several days. Authorities say the incident is still
Speaker 1: an active investigation. Police are advertising advertising. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: if the police were like advertising, Hey, we're the police.
Speaker 1: Here's what we do. You know? Okay, police are advising
Speaker 1: local gas stations that close overnights or of view security
Speaker 1: footage should ensure they have not been victims as well. Okay,
Speaker 1: before we get into this, I would say these guys
Speaker 1: are modern day heroes there to me and the Robin
Speaker 1: Robin Hoods, stealing from the rich and giving to the point,
Speaker 1: I mean, the crime is that gas is so high.
Speaker 1: They are trying to help people. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think you should hack into other people's things, and but this,
Speaker 1: I honestly I don't really have a problem with this
Speaker 1: because gas prices, as we've learned, are I believe high
Speaker 1: really for no reason, right, just gouging. So I'm sorry
Speaker 1: if the person that owned the gas station didn't have
Speaker 1: a say and how much it is. I don't know
Speaker 1: how that all works, but I'm fascinated by the fact
Speaker 1: that they hacked into a gas station pumps, lowered the prices,
Speaker 1: and gave people cheap gas. I mean, DM treat do
Speaker 1: you understand I have been traveling so much just to
Speaker 1: avoid paying gas. I would rather fly across the country
Speaker 1: and take public transportation than pay for gas. In l A,
Speaker 1: I was there for one week. I filled my tank
Speaker 1: up and it was a hundred dollars dollars and it
Speaker 1: lasted me three days. And sadly, your your airline tickets
Speaker 1: are probably cheaper than filling up your gas tank that much. Yes,
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars in airline tickets is actually less than
Speaker 1: a hundred dollars. That's how that's how transportation money works.
Speaker 1: But I actually didn't even know it was possible to
Speaker 1: hack gas bumps, and now that I do, I would
Speaker 1: like for these guys to do a YouTube tutorial, even
Speaker 1: if they were wearing masks or something or had those
Speaker 1: little uh mosaics over their face so you don't know
Speaker 1: who they are and just remained anonymous. Teach me how
Speaker 1: to dog e, Teach me how to hack the gas pump.
Speaker 1: I want to hack the gas pump. Take me to
Speaker 1: jail because I'm doing something that's right for me. I
Speaker 1: don't know that, FRITI sure, no, and said that before.
Speaker 1: I also just feel like I'm actually surprised that I
Speaker 1: haven't heard about this more often. Yeah, well, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that you could do that. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: gas tanks were hackable. I think they got to get
Speaker 1: these guys out of jail, and that this should be
Speaker 1: part of a bigger movement. Two teach people how to
Speaker 1: hack gas bumps. It's it's not often here at real
Speaker 1: time crime that we side with the criminal. But I
Speaker 1: think we're in agreement. Um. I hope nothing happens to
Speaker 1: these guys. I hope they get a slap on the
Speaker 1: wrist and and they go out. If they start doing
Speaker 1: it to like banks and taking people's money, I have
Speaker 1: a problem with it. But you're right, this is a
Speaker 1: bit of a Robin Hood story. No, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm getting robbed every time I go to the gas station,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're literally stealing my money. They should not
Speaker 1: cost a hundred dollars to fill up a Honda. And
Speaker 1: and and from what I understand from watching all different
Speaker 1: kinds of news, not just one shan't one network or
Speaker 1: something like that, is that these prices are high and
Speaker 1: they don't need to be this high. They don't need
Speaker 1: to be this high. And um, agreed, is a lot
Speaker 1: of it. And I think that, you know, everyone's just
Speaker 1: trying to survive, and I get that. But also these
Speaker 1: gas stations can market up the prices to whatever they want.
Speaker 1: They still want to make a profit, so which is
Speaker 1: understandable to business. But you know, some of them are
Speaker 1: really greedy. I mean in West Hollywood I saw some
Speaker 1: were like over seven dollars per gallant. That's insane. And
Speaker 1: also I'm wondering, like are they going to be treated
Speaker 1: as if it was an armed robbery? Like will they
Speaker 1: be treated as if they were robbing a person versus
Speaker 1: a property, you know, a business. I feel like they
Speaker 1: deserve less punishment period. Yeah, I agree, like, fine, return
Speaker 1: the money, but that's it, and then let them move
Speaker 1: on with their lives so that they can do it
Speaker 1: again but not get caught. The only person heard in
Speaker 1: this is the actual individual owner of that gas station,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, and that person has been ripping
Speaker 1: people up for years. It's almost like a taste of
Speaker 1: their own medicine. You know. I'm I'm I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: team robber, Team criminal, We're team criminal. Speaking of team criminal.
Speaker 1: Criminal fleas from police by hopping into a kayak which
Speaker 1: then capsizes, which is honestly a shot him Fred. If
Speaker 1: you ask me like instant karma, I love nothing more
Speaker 1: than instant karma. Like when you say something bad about
Speaker 1: someone that you step in dogshit, it's like, well the
Speaker 1: ship came out of your mouth and now you got it.
Speaker 1: So I just keep talking about amber her. But I
Speaker 1: don't mean to, you know. Okay, So an alleged thief
Speaker 1: in Alabama tried to evade police by hopping into kayak
Speaker 1: in a river, which capsized immediately after. So several people
Speaker 1: called the police on Friday to report this man. He
Speaker 1: was allegedly seen wandering through backyards and stealing a lawnmower
Speaker 1: and leaf blower. People calmed down, you know, some residents
Speaker 1: had confronted the man by early afternoon, prompting him to
Speaker 1: flee to the Coosa River. Officers arrived soon after and
Speaker 1: tracked the suspect down the river. He didn't get far
Speaker 1: before the kayak flipped and he started swimming to the bank,
Speaker 1: where officers were waiting for him with a sad thing
Speaker 1: to just like just just swim up to your doom.
Speaker 1: You're wet, you're cold. And then the police are like
Speaker 1: all right, and they just cut you. Good job, buddy,
Speaker 1: you know, sorry you didn't make the Olympics. Um. So
Speaker 1: apparently he was also tackled and arrested. I mean, if
Speaker 1: I was just coming out of swimming in a river,
Speaker 1: I would be too tired to do anything. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: need to tackle me. I'd just be roll. I would
Speaker 1: keel over dead. I'd like, just take me away, just
Speaker 1: give can can I just get like a h a
Speaker 1: blanket and a saying that the police acted incorrectly. I
Speaker 1: don't care that they tackled him. I'm just thinking it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like this guy is really bright enough to
Speaker 1: get away. They they were probably just having a little fun.
Speaker 1: I would just really want a trauma blanket after that.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like, you guys didn't traumatize me. I
Speaker 1: traumatized myself. But but so then so then he was
Speaker 1: charged with burglary, theft of property, attempt to elude, and
Speaker 1: resisting arrest. So I guess he was being combative when
Speaker 1: they picked him up at the river, and apparently he
Speaker 1: was stealing items to sell. This is what he said.
Speaker 1: He was stealing items to sell so he could get
Speaker 1: his girlfriend's vehicle out of impound. Oh, he's a Robin hood.
Speaker 1: He's of another we got another team criminal on our hands.
Speaker 1: You know, now you're not I mean stealing a lawnmower
Speaker 1: and like a leaf blower. That's really sad, that's desperate.
Speaker 1: But also what was his Like did he hide the
Speaker 1: kayak there? Like that was his getaway? Was he going
Speaker 1: to take a lawnmower and a leaf blower in a
Speaker 1: kayak and go down the river to get away his
Speaker 1: getaway kayak? I mean if the whole thing reeks of stupidity, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean. Also the other thing is if you're stealing
Speaker 1: leaf blowers and lawnmowers, I'm like, are you just trying
Speaker 1: to start a company in gardening and landscaping? Because you're
Speaker 1: not going to make that much money. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting because if he was serious, that's a very
Speaker 1: sweet gesture, very stupid, but sweet gesture to get his
Speaker 1: girlfriend's car out of an impound And and now, because
Speaker 1: we know he didn't have a getaway car because it
Speaker 1: was impounded, he had to take a kayak. It was
Speaker 1: the next best mode of transportation, although I think a
Speaker 1: bicycle would have done him much better, and clearly didn't
Speaker 1: practice how to operate, you know, how to use a
Speaker 1: kayak on a river. Also, you don't escape from the
Speaker 1: police on a river. There's one way to go. They
Speaker 1: go down further down the river and they wait for you, like,
Speaker 1: where are you going? Yeah, either that or you go
Speaker 1: off a waterfall and die. It's like, there's not much
Speaker 1: at the end of a river, right, And and I
Speaker 1: don't haven't really hung out there, but I can't imagine
Speaker 1: rivers in Alabama are awesome to hang out. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's more crime happening in the river than on the land.
Speaker 1: The police actually had bigger fish to fry than catching
Speaker 1: this guy. They're like, so those guys are dealing meth
Speaker 1: out there, but we gotta got to this one guy
Speaker 1: who stole a leaf blower. You know, it's really about
Speaker 1: the principle of the matter. I mean. The other thing is, uh,
Speaker 1: the story is interesting in the first place because the
Speaker 1: residents were confronting him before law enforcement came into play.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, if someone was stealing something from my backyard,
Speaker 1: would I go run after him and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: come back here with my leaf blower? Would I assume
Speaker 1: that this person was armed and dangerous? Or you know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because when people steal, right, this isn't him
Speaker 1: breaking into a house with a gun and stealing a
Speaker 1: diamond necklace. It's a little different. This is like, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, desperate. And so something happened to me during
Speaker 1: the pandemic where I got in my car and then
Speaker 1: I noticed all these papers in the passenger seat and
Speaker 1: I look over and I see that the glove compartment
Speaker 1: is open. I was like, did I just leave a
Speaker 1: mess in my car? That's so weird. I guess I
Speaker 1: could have done that, like I'm pretty sloppy. And then
Speaker 1: I look over at my steering wheel and someone had
Speaker 1: broken into my car. I didn't realize, and they stole
Speaker 1: the air bag off my steering wheel, which apparently is
Speaker 1: such an expensive part that it almost totaled my car.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? That's how expensive it is. And you
Speaker 1: had to be a pro. It's an expert move to
Speaker 1: be able to remove just the air bag office steering wheel.
Speaker 1: Apparently that it was like a huge crime that was
Speaker 1: happening in l A during the pandemic because they could
Speaker 1: sell apart for a lot of money on the black market,
Speaker 1: and people were desperate for money. And I just thought,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just thought to the
Speaker 1: probably sell them like Junkyards and stuff, and I just thought, like, wow,
Speaker 1: you know what, this person really needed this more than
Speaker 1: I do. I'm lucky that I'm insurance. It's annoying I
Speaker 1: have to pay a five deductible, but I'm safe. I
Speaker 1: wasn't confronted by the robber. I do feel violated, like
Speaker 1: your car is like a house on wheels, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean like that, So to think that someone
Speaker 1: was sitting in my seat in my car, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel good. Um, but I was not harmed,
Speaker 1: and I just think, you know, this person really needed
Speaker 1: it for whatever they needed. They needed it more than
Speaker 1: I did. I'll be okay. I was frustrated. I was annoying.
Speaker 1: I felt violated. It still sucks, but it's definitely a
Speaker 1: different crime than someone entering your house and threatening to
Speaker 1: harm you, or entering your house and stealing stuff. To
Speaker 1: your original point, if someone broke into my house and
Speaker 1: I like walked in the room and saw them, I
Speaker 1: would most likely I would think they would be a
Speaker 1: little more brazen and I think maybe more dangerous, So
Speaker 1: I'd probably back out and you know, try and hopefully
Speaker 1: they didn't see me. So I would not confront because
Speaker 1: if they saw you, they'd be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you guys, it's Dmitri from Real Time Crime. We gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta get out of this house. You know he
Speaker 1: knows all about Yeah, they'd be just the super fans.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, I'm so sorry, we actually came to
Speaker 1: see yourself, but can we just get your autographs? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, are you gonna rip us on the podcast?
Speaker 1: This is awesome? Can we actually is this? I know
Speaker 1: this is weird, but like, can we come on the podcast?
Speaker 1: We don't leah right now? Where is she? Um? No?
Speaker 1: But if so, if someone was in the house, I
Speaker 1: would consider them more dangerous and I would probably not
Speaker 1: confront them. If I was there and I saw someone
Speaker 1: in my backyard, I would yell like hey, and then
Speaker 1: depending on their reaction, if they ran, then I would
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable kind of going out after them. If
Speaker 1: they just stood there, if they started walking to the house,
Speaker 1: then I would alter my plans. I know this sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: but these sorts of situations are the type of situations
Speaker 1: that make me wish I was really good with a
Speaker 1: bone arrow, you know, like I just had expert aim
Speaker 1: where I could be like, I just want to graze
Speaker 1: their leg in a way that they're like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I should drop this because this person is in dangerous
Speaker 1: but they're crazy. Yeah, how nice would it be to
Speaker 1: tell the cops listen, look for the guy that has
Speaker 1: an arrow sticking out of his calf. That's my guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be a life threatening injury,
Speaker 1: just something that slows him down or makes them think
Speaker 1: twice about stealing my property or hurting me or anyone
Speaker 1: I know, and move on with my life. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a real Robin Hen move for sure. I mean
Speaker 1: it's a bow and arrow. Yeah, I I go with
Speaker 1: crossbow or bow and arrow overgun any day. I mean
Speaker 1: it's got to feel good to see someone stealing your stuff,
Speaker 1: violating your property and just shoot an arrow across the
Speaker 1: yard into their ass. It's such a funny way to
Speaker 1: attack someone. I'm gonna get a bow and arrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's like very sixteen hundreds renaissance of us. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would just be like, this person is mentally ill,
Speaker 1: and like you're stealing from me? Bro right, can you
Speaker 1: image to the trial? They're like, uh, and then he
Speaker 1: chased me with a bow and arrow. What Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I was just doing target practice, barrow. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for your help. All right, anyway, Um, and I
Speaker 1: don't buy this. Sorry. One of the last thing I
Speaker 1: don't buy that it is there's no sympathy here. And
Speaker 1: he his girlfriend's car was impounded, so he was trying
Speaker 1: to figure that out on your own. That's not someone
Speaker 1: else's problem. That's not like, let me go steal from
Speaker 1: someone else because my girlfriend didn't pay her her mobile
Speaker 1: violations or whatever the hell it is. Look, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I'm on team criminal here. If
Speaker 1: if he was being honest and it was a sweet gesture,
Speaker 1: is a stupid act and he's not stealing anything irreplaceable
Speaker 1: or super expensive. He just sounds like very sad time
Speaker 1: in his life. We would just like to announce right
Speaker 1: now in the podcast that this is all a result
Speaker 1: of Lea being in love and still on that romantic
Speaker 1: honeymoon stage. She loves the idea of of a re
Speaker 1: and being romanced, and the fact that her new boyfriend
Speaker 1: may go steal leafblowers to get her car out of impound. You, guys,
Speaker 1: chivalry is not dead. It's not, but this isn't it anyway.
Speaker 1: Take a break. We're gonna take a break. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. You guys, will be right back.
Speaker 1: Don't touch that dial. I love saying that. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, it doesn't make any sense. I just like
Speaker 1: to be like a weird nineteen eighties radio host. Hey,
Speaker 1: leave us a voicemail, let us know thumbs up or
Speaker 1: thumbs down on the or comment on the social things
Speaker 1: thumbs up or thumbs down on the don't touch the dial.
Speaker 1: I like it. I love that. Don't touch that dial.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Stay safe, don't commit any grimes. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's us Leon Dmitri with Real Time Crime. Welcome back,
Speaker 1: Welcome back again, Welcome again. Back, welcome back, not touching
Speaker 1: the dial again, welcome back. Thanks for not touching the dial,
Speaker 1: you guys. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I've changed. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I don't know what else to say. This
Speaker 1: is ah, it's not working good for my comedy either.
Speaker 1: I go on stage and I'm like, hey, you love birds.
Speaker 1: Everyone's everyone doing. They're like, I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: just happy to be here. They're like boo, all right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, people only love you when you're miserable on
Speaker 1: stage because misery loves company. So I'm gonna find fighting
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, you can find misery and happiness and
Speaker 1: still be happy. Don't worry, it's there. Oh okay, so
Speaker 1: I just have to wait a couple of years into
Speaker 1: the relationship. No, this is just this is a whole
Speaker 1: new thing. Like you have all these things that you've
Speaker 1: that you've done your comedy about. Now it's like you
Speaker 1: just got a brand new slate and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can I can tap into all this stuff new material.
Speaker 1: I just started doing jokes about him, Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: lose the audience pretty quickly. They're like, man, do you
Speaker 1: know when I posted him on my Instagram story publicly,
Speaker 1: I lost two thousand followers in less in twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: When I posted you and him, I gained two thousands.
Speaker 1: I actually screenshot every DM that was like I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what did you think was going to happen?
Speaker 1: I've never even I don't know who you are, and
Speaker 1: I don't mean that in a mean way. I've just
Speaker 1: never met you. Like, what did you did you think
Speaker 1: we were gonna get married? I don't understand, right, But also, okay, go,
Speaker 1: so wait, so you're leaving? I post meaning you you
Speaker 1: post comedy and you post podcasts and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna leave because you're in a relationship, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what your incent was. It really doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense. And we don't try to make sense of
Speaker 1: things that are nonsensical, because that's the whole point of nonsense,
Speaker 1: to not make sense. Speaking of not making sense, thank you,
Speaker 1: let's just hop right into our main story. Guys. This
Speaker 1: is about the doc that's streaming on Netflix right now.
Speaker 1: It's called Keep Sweet, Prey, and Obey. It's a true
Speaker 1: crime series that delves into the cultural practices and abuses
Speaker 1: committed by an extremist offshoot of the Mormon Church known
Speaker 1: as the Fundamist Church of Jesus Rice of Latter day Saints.
Speaker 1: The doc tells the horrifying true story of the leader
Speaker 1: and known polygamist, Warren Jeff's. Director Rachel Dretson says she
Speaker 1: made this to give victims a chance to tell their stories.
Speaker 1: For the first time. In this doc, we learned how
Speaker 1: some women were able to escape, Thank God. It features
Speaker 1: disturbing interviews with ex communicates of the f LDS Church,
Speaker 1: some of whom had intimate relationships with Jeff's. Warren Jeff's. Also,
Speaker 1: I hate that his last name is Jeff's plural. I mean,
Speaker 1: I hate everything about him, but yeah, but Jeff's. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: Warren Jeff's was made a prophet in two thousand two.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm sorry, but like, if you're going
Speaker 1: to be a prophet after y two k you're not
Speaker 1: a real prophet. The real profits were before two thousand
Speaker 1: and everyone knows that, Okay, I'm sorry. Just like a
Speaker 1: modern day problems, I'm we're all modern day prophets. Have
Speaker 1: you gone on? TikTok? It's like everyone's got an opinion,
Speaker 1: all right by the time of his arrest, Jeff's had
Speaker 1: married seventy eight women, some of whom he inherited from
Speaker 1: his father. That's so odd to just treat women like
Speaker 1: objects that that just goes in a contract. Were like,
Speaker 1: all right, so when I die, you get to have
Speaker 1: sex with her. It's like, huh is this passed down?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's so disturbing. I can't even the word
Speaker 1: inherited is in regards to women is unfathomable to me. Okay,
Speaker 1: take take your pick. Like seventy eight wives, that's discussing
Speaker 1: in a problem, inherited from his father. That's discussing a problem.
Speaker 1: And then it says twenty four of them were underage one, twelve, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, alright. So Warren Jeff's rose to power
Speaker 1: and succeeded his father Rulan, and how his authority and
Speaker 1: rule created an extremely repressive system in which corruption and abuse,
Speaker 1: including the sexual abuse of miners, escalated. He also married
Speaker 1: off countless underage girls to other adult men were his. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder how he treated his own daughters. Jeff's is
Speaker 1: currently serving a life sentence for his crimes. Despite his conviction,
Speaker 1: he's still considered a prophet and president of the f
Speaker 1: l d s and his thousands of followers. If we're honest,
Speaker 1: thousands is not that large. I mean, I doubt he's
Speaker 1: even verified on Instagram. The crazy thing is that Warren
Speaker 1: Jeff no, just get the joking. You have a family,
Speaker 1: you can't Okay, send it to me. I don't have
Speaker 1: a family yet. Um. The crazy thing is that Warren
Speaker 1: Jeff's documented everything, so all that archival footage actually helped
Speaker 1: seal his fate in court. This is the same as
Speaker 1: every story so far. You're advertising fake at of cheap gas,
Speaker 1: You're recording yourself on camera as a pedophile. It's like,
Speaker 1: why are everyone just wants to get caught? It's so odd,
Speaker 1: Like why do you keep these people? It's like they're well,
Speaker 1: they're not pro criminals, that's clear. Because of are pro criminals.
Speaker 1: They would trace their steps. Haven't they watched any movies? See?
Speaker 1: I think this is different. I think this guy is
Speaker 1: a pro criminal because of the years that he's been
Speaker 1: doing this and the ship that he's done. I think
Speaker 1: he got to that point like a lot of people
Speaker 1: do when they hide behind religion and they act like
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for God, so I'm untouchable. I think
Speaker 1: he felt like he was untouchable, but he documented everything,
Speaker 1: so it's like, you're an idiot, so he's But can
Speaker 1: he be a pro criminal and an idiot? Like in
Speaker 1: my opinion, pro criminals are people who don't get caught. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're I'm in our minds. It's the hollywoods even these
Speaker 1: are not the oceans eleven people to the idiots, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So just just for reference, everyone knows polygamy is illegal
Speaker 1: in the US, to be clear, Although although I know
Speaker 1: this sounds possibly scandalous, I feel like in the next
Speaker 1: ten years, polygamy will not be illegal because of the
Speaker 1: way that people are starting to intermingle and the way
Speaker 1: that society is is changing toward just gender relations, sex relations. Um.
Speaker 1: It feels like there I know personally a lot of
Speaker 1: people who do not identify as monogamous, and they have
Speaker 1: a lot of power and are famous and their celebrities,
Speaker 1: people you would know. I just feel like polygamy is
Speaker 1: one of those things that maybe three thousand years ago
Speaker 1: was seen as a crime, just like how marijuana was
Speaker 1: illegal but is now being decriminalized or becoming legal in places.
Speaker 1: I feel like polygamy will be legal at some point
Speaker 1: in the US. It might take a while, but I
Speaker 1: think it will be legal at some point. Yeah. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: Also there's a there's an overall kind of feeling at
Speaker 1: least that I feel that as a as a country,
Speaker 1: we're kind of the escalator reversed course and now we're
Speaker 1: moving backwards. The things that we've gone forward on I
Speaker 1: think are now going backwards. And I think so I
Speaker 1: thought that's where you're going at first, not that would
Speaker 1: become more acceptable, but that's not how things are, just
Speaker 1: reverting back to things that we had thought. We had
Speaker 1: all agreed. This isn't great. Oh you're like, so monogamy
Speaker 1: is is now illegal as well? No one is allowed
Speaker 1: to have sex? Um Yeah, no, no, I mean that
Speaker 1: I get as well. I mean, especially with Roe v.
Speaker 1: Wade and everything that's going on with abortion, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like one step forward, two steps back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we still we still keep taking that one step forward.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway. That has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: what we're talking about right now. After Okay, so after
Speaker 1: years of committing these crimes, the victims that came forward
Speaker 1: and made it possible to arrest and convict Warren Jeff's
Speaker 1: for rape. Warren was convicted of two counts of child
Speaker 1: sexual assault in two thousand eleven. I'm actually surprised is
Speaker 1: only two and at that time Jeff was already behind
Speaker 1: bars for being an accomplice to rape, a crime. He
Speaker 1: was convicted up in two thousand and seven after spending
Speaker 1: a year on the FBI's most wanted list. He's serving
Speaker 1: time at louis See Powlidge Unit, a prison in Palestine, Texas.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. He was given a life sentence plus twenty
Speaker 1: years back in that. Did they just do that to
Speaker 1: be like, hey, we really don't with you. I always
Speaker 1: wondered that there's some there's some little legal tinge to it,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what it is, but it does
Speaker 1: sound like just in case you die and come back.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I was just thinking, Like if you
Speaker 1: have a heart attack, you're technically dead, but then come
Speaker 1: back and some lawyer is like, there's a loophole. He
Speaker 1: he did die? Um, wow, man, there's a loophole for everything. Huh.
Speaker 1: Did we just stumble across something and solve it ourselves?
Speaker 1: We did? We did. And I just want to say
Speaker 1: to all the lawyers out there getting people off after
Speaker 1: a life sentence and for having them fake heart attacks
Speaker 1: and and dropping dead. You're smart. Wow, you really you
Speaker 1: found a good one. But I'm glad he now has
Speaker 1: that plus twenty years and he won't be eligible for
Speaker 1: parole until July. I mean, that's not that far away.
Speaker 1: It's sixteen years. It's actually not timesline. But apparently he
Speaker 1: tried to hang himself when he went in in two
Speaker 1: thousand seven. I mean, well, he was trying to pull
Speaker 1: on Epstein quote unquote, but I don't think Epstein killed himself.
Speaker 1: Warren Jeff's is allowed visits from family in prison and
Speaker 1: still runs the sect. So crazy, And in two thousand
Speaker 1: and six, the Mormon Church sent out a statement saying
Speaker 1: it was misleading and inaccurate to call him a Mormon.
Speaker 1: So the Mormon Church kind of denounces this guy, and
Speaker 1: yet he's still running the Latter day Saints. It doesn't
Speaker 1: really make any sense. But the Church of Jesus Christ
Speaker 1: of Latter day Saints discontinued the practice of polygamy in
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen a manifesto, and then in four a second
Speaker 1: manifesto was established for excommunication as a punishment for those
Speaker 1: who refused to stop the practice of polygamy. All right,
Speaker 1: so look, a lot of this is kind of odd.
Speaker 1: I will just say when I was in Phoenix, Arizona,
Speaker 1: I was doing a show and the first half hour
Speaker 1: of the show was like the best thirty minutes of
Speaker 1: my life of comedy. And what I didn't know behind
Speaker 1: the scenes was that there had only been like thirty
Speaker 1: tickets sold prior to the show, and then once the
Speaker 1: doors opened, the show had been sold out. So they
Speaker 1: only prepared staff for thirty people. So there was two
Speaker 1: servers and one bouncer, and when you have a room
Speaker 1: of two people, you need more than that. So halfway
Speaker 1: through my set, this is after the host has gone up,
Speaker 1: this is after the opener has gone up, this is
Speaker 1: after the guest spot has gone up. So this is
Speaker 1: already like almost an hour into the show. People hadn't
Speaker 1: gone their drinks, people hadn't gotten their food, the heat,
Speaker 1: the a C. Wasn't working, so people start yelling in
Speaker 1: the back, where's my food, where's my drink? I'm hungry,
Speaker 1: And there's only one bouncer, so he can't kick all
Speaker 1: these people. You know, It's like it just starts getting
Speaker 1: real tense. And then a table to my left is
Speaker 1: a whole table of Mormons, and this guy won't stop
Speaker 1: asking me during my set to him and his wives.
Speaker 1: He's like, Hi, this is my wife Sarah, and this
Speaker 1: is my wife Rachel, and this is my wife Lisa,
Speaker 1: and we'd love to get a drink with you after
Speaker 1: this and see where things go. And just and I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I'm at work right now. It went
Speaker 1: downhill so fast I sweat all the way through my shirt.
Speaker 1: Security didn't kick them out and they never stopped talking
Speaker 1: at me during my own show. And then after the show,
Speaker 1: were we making you uncomfortable? I was like, no, not
Speaker 1: past tense. Still, I'm at work and you were talking
Speaker 1: to me. I don't even talking, just like I mean talking,
Speaker 1: but propositioning me into a forsome It was very odd,
Speaker 1: very super disturbing. And it's like, yeah, like obviously I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of people interrupting comedy. It's to
Speaker 1: begin with, right, but not even on track like this
Speaker 1: is he's acting as if he just bumped into you
Speaker 1: with a diner anyway, So I so I had sex
Speaker 1: with them? Yeah, they're coming on next week. They're coming
Speaker 1: on me next week, and sorry, Dmitri, Dmitri, what do
Speaker 1: you expect? Oh please, just because I made a face
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I didn't appreciate the joke. Okay. So it's
Speaker 1: funny because I don't even remember hearing about the story
Speaker 1: in the news. Yeah, no, I do. I remember hearing
Speaker 1: about this in the news, and I remember, um, I
Speaker 1: remember thinking how twisted it was. And I watched the
Speaker 1: trailer for this Netflix documentary and it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know that I can pretty much sit through anything. I
Speaker 1: don't think I want to see this because I have
Speaker 1: three daughters and I don't like it's so disturbing these
Speaker 1: older guys that were being like given underage brides and
Speaker 1: the whole thing, so get ready to bleeping so twisted
Speaker 1: that it's like, I don't I just want to say,
Speaker 1: if you know, if Dmitri curses, you know he's feeling
Speaker 1: sick about something, and stop hiding behind the church. Everybody, listen.
Speaker 1: You want to be an ass, you want to be disgusting,
Speaker 1: be it, but stop being like, oh, I'm I'm a prophet,
Speaker 1: and this is Jesus telling me honestly, really, you're telling
Speaker 1: me that Jesus is like, hey, Mary, underaged girls and
Speaker 1: give me to your friends to tell everybody what they
Speaker 1: can do with themselves. I mean, so, I don't remember
Speaker 1: this all unfolding, but but it's interesting because I think
Speaker 1: it does cast a really negative not negative, but it
Speaker 1: cast a shadow on the Mormon Church that polygamy is
Speaker 1: continuing on a polygamy is legal in Utah or is
Speaker 1: it just in Silver Lake not Silver Lake, Salt Lake?
Speaker 1: So like, um, I don't know. I feel like it's legal,
Speaker 1: but I feel like there's some stipulations to it. But
Speaker 1: but but it's like it just happened to me in
Speaker 1: two where a man, a Mormon guy, had two or
Speaker 1: three wives. Yeah, it was in September. I can't remember,
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not trying to be funny. I
Speaker 1: can't remember if it was his three wives or two
Speaker 1: wives and one of the women's girlfriends. M I I
Speaker 1: literally do not remember, or if it was his girlfriend
Speaker 1: but not wife yet. But there are three women and
Speaker 1: it was him, and it was all a hold to do. Honestly, Um,
Speaker 1: talking about being in a touch with reality. Let's just
Speaker 1: go to a comedy show and we'll interrupt the act
Speaker 1: will act like the accent even going on, and we're
Speaker 1: just gonna see if this girl wants to join us
Speaker 1: over and over. I mean, you know that's one way
Speaker 1: of doing dating in real life. Yeah, or you could
Speaker 1: do it the way I did it. Ha ha. Just
Speaker 1: fly across the world to find a man you're in
Speaker 1: love with. Okay, So thank you. So yeah, stop hiding
Speaker 1: under religion to having as an excuse to um, you know,
Speaker 1: be with underage girls. And I don't know, I think
Speaker 1: do you think polygamy is different than polyamory, because polyamory
Speaker 1: is is rampant in Hollywood. Polygamy maybe not so much.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of girls who are quote unquote
Speaker 1: cool with it. You know. Oh, you know he's dating
Speaker 1: me and like he like really he focuses on me
Speaker 1: when we're together, and he says I love you, and
Speaker 1: he does, but he just like loves a lot of people.
Speaker 1: And I'm okay with it. And then like two weeks later,
Speaker 1: like ah right, And and you also get into that
Speaker 1: that weird area where sometimes like the two people are married,
Speaker 1: but then they have another person they consider their spouse.
Speaker 1: So you get to a point you're like, well, where's
Speaker 1: what's the difference between just the like the legal paperwork
Speaker 1: of of intermarrying like a bunch of people. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not a super fan of all that, but I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously the whole assigning underage girls too older met all
Speaker 1: that ship is a whole different topic. Way no place
Speaker 1: in any of this. This just in, by the way.
Speaker 1: But first of all, before I go into this just
Speaker 1: and I just want to say, in my opinion, if
Speaker 1: all parties are knowledge and knowledgeable about all the other partners,
Speaker 1: and everyone is consenting to the situation of their own volition,
Speaker 1: who am I to judge? Who am I to say no? Like,
Speaker 1: I think the slogan love is love applies to a
Speaker 1: lot of different situations. However, not when it's underage. But
Speaker 1: if you're if you're marrying two women who are of age,
Speaker 1: and you know they are consenting to being together and
Speaker 1: they know the situation, and it's like, who am I
Speaker 1: to say you can't all get married? Right? I'm not, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of of laws that tell people
Speaker 1: like what they can do with Like, I agree with
Speaker 1: what you're saying there. There are the legal laws and
Speaker 1: that the age and all that kind of stuff. Or
Speaker 1: or forcing someone to do something completely out the window.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. You make a good
Speaker 1: point there, It's it's it's hard because I do think
Speaker 1: it is judgmental to say that marriage should only be
Speaker 1: between two people, especially if all parties are consenting and aware.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, I really do think it's it's like, what,
Speaker 1: how is it my business? Right? Well, times have changed
Speaker 1: so much, like it used to be like you get married,
Speaker 1: you have kids. If it's not even like marriage isn't
Speaker 1: even as big a thing anymore. It's not even like
Speaker 1: something that people said I think want to do or
Speaker 1: have to do or any of that. So, well, that's
Speaker 1: the other thing. It's like you're doubling down on a commitment.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like two women who are unsatisfied instead
Speaker 1: of one. But I think, you know, no, I just
Speaker 1: I find it interesting because it's like, well, under that pretense,
Speaker 1: should having children out of wedlock be illegal? You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, who why is this so controversial? Right? But okay, alright,
Speaker 1: so we've gotten off topic of what this guy did,
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. But also but but we do need
Speaker 1: to talk about what polygamy is and what polyamory is right.
Speaker 1: Polyamory is just the capacity to or yeah, capacity to
Speaker 1: love multiple people or be in love, and multiple people
Speaker 1: in polygamy is marrying multiple people. Right. So polygamy is
Speaker 1: illegal and criminalized in every country in North and South America,
Speaker 1: including all fifty U. S States. But in February, the
Speaker 1: Utah House and Senate reduced the punishment for consensual polygamy,
Speaker 1: which had previously been classified as a felony, to roughly
Speaker 1: the equivalent of a traffic ticket. So I was right,
Speaker 1: it is Utah and and I guess it's decriminalized quote unquote.
Speaker 1: See this is what I'm saying. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be like weed, where it's decriminalized, and then it will
Speaker 1: be made legal in some places, and slowly over time,
Speaker 1: I think it will be made decriminalized or legal in
Speaker 1: some places. And Indian, Malaysian, Philippines, and Singapore. The government's
Speaker 1: recognize polygamist marriages, but only from Muslims. I think it's
Speaker 1: interesting that they it's religion specific. Yeah. Well, I um,
Speaker 1: I have trouble with the reasoning behind it. So, like
Speaker 1: you said, if there's people and they want to all
Speaker 1: be married together, and I don't know who am I
Speaker 1: to say, don't, but I feel like most of these
Speaker 1: situations are where it's a control over the woman or
Speaker 1: it's you know, and so that is where this goes
Speaker 1: completely awry in my opinion. So all of us being said,
Speaker 1: I guess you know, watch the documentary if you have
Speaker 1: the stomach for it. Don't eat a full meal beforehand,
Speaker 1: because you will be sick watching it. This guy, I'm
Speaker 1: glad that he has a life sentence plus twenty years because,
Speaker 1: as we said, we know now, we figured it. We
Speaker 1: got to the bottom of that real quick. People trying
Speaker 1: to fake their deaths, but I died, shut the up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think the I think the multiple life sentences
Speaker 1: is because they have to assign one for each crime
Speaker 1: if they're multiple crimes. I think that's where that comes in.
Speaker 1: But I think we may have stumbled onto that. I
Speaker 1: think plus twenty years is covering any legal bullshit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate, like f the loopholes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: People get off on technicalities all the time, And if
Speaker 1: you're a lawyer trying to get some piece of crap
Speaker 1: like this out of jail, you probably have the biggest
Speaker 1: house in l A. Yeah, right, the richest person in
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, you guys, um and that's our episode
Speaker 1: for today. I really think we've covered the gamut of
Speaker 1: subjects really petty crime, uh, team criminal, the polygamy. We've
Speaker 1: just been all over the place. And as always, leave
Speaker 1: us a voicemail. Call in. We love to hear your voice.
Speaker 1: And if it's confessing to a crime, just please don't
Speaker 1: let it be a really serious one. I'm not ready
Speaker 1: for that. Emotionally, I can't add more to my mental illness, Like,
Speaker 1: are not enough antidepressants and doctors in the world to
Speaker 1: handle what I already have. Alright, so leave us a
Speaker 1: voicemail and and support my new favorite rom com which
Speaker 1: is which is Leah's new relationship. I'm feel free to
Speaker 1: you know, people unfollowed her for this crap. Honest, I say,
Speaker 1: call in and voice your support. I'll pick out. I'll
Speaker 1: pick got my favorite. We'll er it. There we go.
Speaker 1: It's eight six eight six six tann one eight six
Speaker 1: six one crime. He hasn't left the bedroom yet, so
Speaker 1: that means that he doesn't absolutely hate the song. It's
Speaker 1: eight six six two on two seven six three. Guys
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Speaker 1: in New York this week. If you're here and Dmitri
Speaker 1: where we find you on the internet as always. And
Speaker 1: if you're breaking into Dmitri's house and you want an autograph,
Speaker 1: He's ready. That's right, I got I carry a pen
Speaker 1: with me, so it just brings something for me to
Speaker 1: sign at all times. Alright, guys, we love you, Stay safe,
Speaker 1: have a good night. For Oh my god, I'll never
Speaker 1: turn mine off. I'm like, people watch me. I need
Speaker 1: more attention. Can't you call this guy so he can
Speaker 1: put a camera in my bathroom? You want to see it,
Speaker 1: you want to see a show, Just wait till I
Speaker 1: have Mexican food and then come back over. Anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: pretending like my camera froze. I don't have to react
Speaker 1: to that. Oh I'm just fist pumped the air. So
Speaker 1: you know this means we're probably gonna get married. Guys,
Speaker 1: love you, good night. It's real time crop. It's real
Speaker 1: time Grady. I mean, is it actually real time crime?
Speaker 1: I'm solving anything? Or is that just the thing we
Speaker 1: say it's a thing we say, got it. Okay, see
Speaker 1: you next week for more real time crime, only on
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