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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. It is another Fox Sports Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, Carmen Vitally, and I'm back. Had a week

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Speaker 2: off last week, but I'm back and joining me today

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Speaker 2: is the CEO of Fangirl Sports Network, forty nine Ers

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Speaker 2: beat reporter and my friend Tracy Sandler.

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Speaker 3: How are you, Trace, I'm good, Carmen, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm good. I feel like it's been forever since I've

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Speaker 4: talked to you.

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Speaker 5: I know, I was actually thinking that this morning. I

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Speaker 5: was like, gosh, it feels silly. It's been two weeks,

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Speaker 5: but it's been a long two weeks without you, my friend.

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Speaker 3: I'm very glad we're back together.

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Speaker 4: That's that. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you just got off a plane and not for

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers related reasons, but I understand you were

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Speaker 2: in Vegas to celebrate f one.

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Speaker 3: Sure was, yes, I sure was so jealous.

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Speaker 4: I love Formula One.

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Speaker 2: I got into it with the Drive to Survive series,

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Speaker 2: and I'm very much enjoying just being a fan of it.

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Speaker 2: Though like I don't try to break it down, I

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Speaker 2: don't try to like know everything about it. I'm very

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Speaker 2: much like, this is gonna be my like outlet.

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Speaker 5: Oh that is fair, And you know what, I don't

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Speaker 5: know a ton about it. I got invited to a

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Speaker 5: great event there last night and I was like, you

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Speaker 5: know what, I'm going to do it fifteen hours in Vegas.

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Speaker 5: I'm in my Formula one era got a seven am flight.

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Speaker 5: But my niece is a very big fan, and when

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Speaker 5: she heard I was there, the excitement level was just incredible,

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Speaker 5: which kind of made the whole thing. But it was

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Speaker 5: really fun. It's kind of everything you think it would be.

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Speaker 5: The thing that's crazy is that the streets of Vegas

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Speaker 5: or the racetrack, So there are all these streets closed down,

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Speaker 5: and you don't really realize what that does to a

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Speaker 5: city like Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Until you're there. But it's cool.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there was something very cool about like, oh,

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Speaker 5: I have to go over this bridge to get to

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Speaker 5: the hotel because there's a racetrack underneath.

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Speaker 4: Because there's a race track underneath you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they definitely the first the first year they did

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. There was definitely some there

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Speaker 2: were some kinks to be worked out, Like I think

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Speaker 2: like some of the manhole covers weren't up to par

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Speaker 2: and like I remember Ferrari ended up like busting their

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Speaker 2: one of their cars because of on the on the

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Speaker 2: qualifying rounds, and like it was just there was definitely

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Speaker 2: some bumps in the road. But I think you know,

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Speaker 2: they have the paddock that is a permanent fixture now

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Speaker 2: just right off the strip, and it's really really cool

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Speaker 2: if you haven't had a chance to just even go

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Speaker 2: see it, not not even during a race, but like

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Speaker 2: there's all this F One memorabilia, you get to get

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Speaker 2: up close and personal with some of the cars, and

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Speaker 2: I think they've kind of like figured it out now,

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Speaker 2: but I just think it's so cool. And it's a

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Speaker 2: night race too, because so much of the F one

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Speaker 2: audience is international, and so the race will the race

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Speaker 2: itself will kick off tonight at eleven pm Eastern, which

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Speaker 2: this think is is crazy, but it's also really cool

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Speaker 2: because it means you get all the Vegas lights as

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Speaker 2: the backdrop and it literally looks like I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure I don't know if you ever

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Speaker 2: played this. I was a weird video game kid that

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Speaker 2: loved Grand Turismo. Oh I like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 2: was obsessed with it. But like there were so many,

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Speaker 2: like different tracks and Grand Turismo too, where you can

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Speaker 2: like it was just like a night time thing. I

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Speaker 2: think there was one like I think going through like

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Speaker 2: Tokyo at one point, and it just like that's what

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Speaker 2: it kind of reminds me of, even though it here

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Speaker 2: in America. So I'm very jealous. I want it's on

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Speaker 2: the bucket list is to get to an F one

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Speaker 2: race either here or My ultimate bucket list would be Monaco.

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Speaker 5: You and my niece she also would like to go

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Speaker 5: to Monaco, which I would like to say I volunteered

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Speaker 5: his tribute to take her serious. Someone wants to send us,

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Speaker 5: I'm you can come with us, carm the three of

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Speaker 5: us to can head to Monico for some F one.

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Speaker 3: I'm so down.

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Speaker 5: We just need to find someone who wants to send

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Speaker 2: Twist my arm like I'll cover like I want to

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Speaker 2: be just a fan, but you know what, I'll cover

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Speaker 2: it for that like especially you know, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: know all the drivers and stuff still complain about Monico

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Speaker 2: because it's a track where you're kind of locked into

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of the drivers don't really like it.

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Speaker 2: But I'm like, okay, before it goes away, and hopefully

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Speaker 2: it never does, but if it does, I want to

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Speaker 2: get there.

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Speaker 5: I was there this summer, not for race, but for

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Speaker 5: one night on a vacation, went to Monico. It is

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Speaker 5: it's Vegas times one hundred thousand, Like it actually kind

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Speaker 5: of puts Vegas to shame in terms of all of

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Speaker 5: the glitz and the glamour and all of it. It's

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Speaker 5: something to be seen. I don't know if you're there

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Speaker 5: for f one. That's one thing. I don't know how

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Speaker 5: much time you'd want to spend there, just generally because

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Speaker 5: there's only so much to do. But it is everything

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Speaker 5: you think it would be times one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, that's again so many things on my list. We're here,

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Speaker 2: we're talking. We're going to talk some football today. We've

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Speaker 2: got a great show for you. A lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: going on in the NFL. As we start to kind

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Speaker 2: of zero in, we're in week twelve, so I mean

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Speaker 2: there's still there's still a lot of football left and

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Speaker 2: for as wide open as all of these divisions are

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Speaker 2: right now, there's still I still think this is going

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Speaker 2: to look drastically different by the time.

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Speaker 4: We get to week eighteen. Yeah, I agree, but we're

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Speaker 2: what do we make about the league right now? I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about teams that are trending up and down?

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Speaker 2: And I'm qualifying this with like, all right, teams that

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Speaker 2: even if like they're not necessarily playoff locks yet or

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Speaker 2: that's like I equated trending up with optimism and that's

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Speaker 2: turning down with like with a little bit of pessimism.

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Speaker 2: Ok So, my first team I want to talk about

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Speaker 2: trending up is the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, because we thought

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't looking great well all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: with that win over the Browns this past weekend, they're

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Speaker 2: now I'm like, and on top of that, they're getting

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Speaker 2: to really make up your ground in the division if

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Speaker 2: all winnable games.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know.

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Speaker 2: Lamar didn't play great versus the Browns this last week.

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Speaker 2: He threw two interceptions, one was a pick six.

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Speaker 4: But he is fully cleared now. He's off the injury report.

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Speaker 2: He does not have a game designation for this week,

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Speaker 2: and he practiced fully on both Thursday and Friday. He

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Speaker 2: the week before. He still played so like there was

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Speaker 2: no and then the Ravens completely cleared him ahead of

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Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn was talking this week just about how he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming and from what I've seen, like this is

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Speaker 1: Know that well.

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Speaker 5: And I think this is why we've talked with this

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Speaker 5: a team like the Ravens can sort of stay afloat

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Speaker 5: and then get hot. Now, a team like the Ravens

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Speaker 5: and this is when you hope guys start getting healthy.

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Speaker 3: So I think you are right.

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Speaker 5: They are very much trending up and playing a Steelers

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Speaker 5: And there are a number of thoughts on that, but

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Speaker 5: I would definitely put them in the trending up category.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's better for football when they're trending up.

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Speaker 2: It's the way I was so hesitant to give up

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Speaker 2: are competitive in that conference, especially that is fair.

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Speaker 5: Well, I have one that I don't know if it's

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Speaker 5: a lukewarm or hot take on trending down.

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Speaker 3: But should there should we be concerned about the Buffalo Bills?

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Speaker 4: I had them in my trending down?

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is this is again a way to qualify

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Speaker 2: this trending up and trending down. So it's not necessarily

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Speaker 2: going to make the playoffs or win the division or

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Speaker 2: this that the other. They're just kind of in a slump,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's an objective thing to say. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's a hot take at all to say

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Speaker 2: that the Bills are in a slump right now, there's

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Speaker 2: I think this team is failing Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: It is, and I think as a result, Josh Allen

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Speaker 5: is pressing to make up for it and make plays,

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Speaker 5: which is then failing the team.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because I mean he's trying to be Superman because

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Speaker 2: that's really the only option the.

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Speaker 4: Team has left him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and with the lack of resources and they like

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Speaker 2: the injuries that are happening, and then you have whatever

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Speaker 2: is happening with Keyan Coleman. I mean it's not and

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Speaker 2: the thing is, it's not an excuse for the Bills

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Speaker 2: as a franchise to be struggling, Like all of the

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Speaker 2: things that's wrong with the Bills are things that good

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Speaker 2: coaches can overcome. And I feel like every single year

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Speaker 2: we have this kind of conversation about Sean McDermott of like,

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Speaker 2: how good do we really think of a coach Sean

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Speaker 2: McDermott is, and how much of it is the fact

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Speaker 2: that he gets bailed out by Josh Allett.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of that.

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Speaker 5: And I, Nicky and I talked about this some last week,

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Speaker 5: and I think you and I touched on a couple

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Speaker 5: weeks ago too. I think the Bills missed their AFC

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Speaker 5: East window because now they got a Patrons team that

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Speaker 5: is super hot and yeah, they tell you very much

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Speaker 5: trending it, Yes they have. Each week they have trended

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Speaker 5: have missed it. And I do think at the end

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Speaker 5: of the season, depending on what happens, the Bills have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's very fair.

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Speaker 2: On the you know, on the practice field, and just

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Speaker 5: What I have found interesting about the Bears as someone

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Speaker 3: And I think what gives me hope for the Bears

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Speaker 5: They're the first, they are the former, and I think

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Speaker 4: Absolutely they were a definition of the latter.

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Speaker 5: They certainly were, and they actually oftentimes victory wasn't even

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Speaker 3: Your two make so much of a difference.

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Speaker 5: And also they have Colston Lovelin, so they're gonna win

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Speaker 2: It's another Fox Football Saturday. I've got Tracy Sandler with

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Speaker 2: this happened, but I'm happy that it happened, right while

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Speaker 2: when we're gonna have you on the show, right and

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Speaker 2: you're gonna co host with me, because like I didn't

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Speaker 2: even have to, like I have all of the questions

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Speaker 2: for you. So this week it's announced that the forty

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Speaker 2: nine SCOO forty nine ers avoided the guaranteed money in

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Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk's contract, a contract that is a one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty million dollar contract he signed last season.

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Speaker 5: It was last right at the end of training camp,

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Speaker 5: right before the season started.

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Speaker 2: Before the yes, right before the season started. After a

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Speaker 2: tumultuous battle as it was of like is he going

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Speaker 2: to say?

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Speaker 4: Is he going to go?

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Speaker 2: Is he It was very dramatic very and after all

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Speaker 2: of that, the forty.

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Speaker 4: Nine ers pay him.

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Speaker 2: They give one hundred and twenty million dollars million million

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Speaker 2: dollar contract. Now he's been injured this season, but like, so,

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Speaker 2: what happened what they voided, you know, it seemingly came

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Speaker 2: out of the blue that they're avoiding his guaranteed money,

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Speaker 2: and now it looks like Brandon Ayuk is now no

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Speaker 2: longer going to be a forty nine Er after the.

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Speaker 5: Season, and it apparently they avoided it in training camp,

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Speaker 5: which says lot it's it's very interesting. I think, first

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Speaker 5: of all, this is one of the bigger mistakes of

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Speaker 5: this regime in that he was coming off a heck

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Speaker 5: of a season, but there was so much drama in

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Speaker 5: a contract negotiation, and they had dealt with that before,

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Speaker 5: but this was a little bit different, and they were

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Speaker 5: very close to training him trading him, and talk about drama.

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Speaker 5: You had Kyle Shanahan running up the stairs to stop

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Speaker 5: the trade. You know, they give him the money, and

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Speaker 5: then the drama just continues.

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Speaker 3: He comes to practice and a different.

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Speaker 5: Pair of shorts, different color pair of shorts than everybody else,

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Speaker 5: and it becomes I forget about it. Yeah, there's the

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Speaker 5: thing with it, and it seems kind of silly, but

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Speaker 5: the reality is like you go to practice, everybody's in

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Speaker 5: the same thing, and it became a thing and he

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Speaker 5: had to change and he throws his shorts off with

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Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan like it's a whole thing, and then he

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Speaker 5: doesn't play well, as happens to a lot of guys

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Speaker 5: who hold out through training camp, and then it's basically

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Speaker 5: like the first two weeks of the season are their

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Speaker 5: training camp. He gets hurt, he suffers a terrible injury,

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Speaker 5: and where I think things just never got better. I mean,

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Speaker 5: in my opinion, the writing was on the wall during

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Speaker 5: the holdout and even after he signed the contract, to

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Speaker 5: be honest, but you had him in August looking like

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Speaker 5: he was making tremendous progress in terms of coming back. Now, granted,

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Speaker 5: I am not a doctor, so watching him run a

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Speaker 5: route in a preseason game on the field pregame is

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Speaker 5: not the same as him doing it in a game.

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Speaker 5: You know, by any means, he's just running a route

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Speaker 5: during warmups that he was allowed to do. But at

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Speaker 5: that time, Kyle Shanahan felt like week six for him,

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Speaker 5: and Malak Mustafa was dealing with an acl injury.

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Speaker 3: But as we got closer to week six, all of a.

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Speaker 5: Sudden, Brandon and a Yuk who had been at practice

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Speaker 5: a lot with the guys, and it had been described

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Speaker 5: both by Kyle Shanahan and the fort Niners wide receivers

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Speaker 5: coach Leonard Hankerson is having another coach in the room.

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Speaker 5: He's not out of practice so much anymore, and and

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Speaker 5: by so much, you don't really see him and you

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Speaker 5: get the feeling things are off. And then week six

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Speaker 5: comes by, we're not opening the practice window. With seven,

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Speaker 5: week eight, week nine, ten, Here we are in a

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Speaker 5: week twelve. Practice window isn't open, and there isn't a

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Speaker 5: ton of explanation on it. Questions are asked, they're answered,

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Speaker 5: but not with a lot of detail, and so something

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Speaker 5: has gone wrong.

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Speaker 3: And I think the reality of the.

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Speaker 5: Situation is whatever the issues were during the holdout and

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Speaker 5: during the contract negotiations, they never got solved. The money

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Speaker 5: got solved, but the issues did not get solved. And

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Speaker 5: so as a result of that, it just got worse

515
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Speaker 5: and worse and worse, and then he has the injury,

516
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Speaker 5: and it's just I just think it was a big mistake.

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Speaker 3: I think it's of this regime.

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Speaker 5: I think it's one of their top two mistakes that

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Speaker 5: they have made, and.

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Speaker 3: They should have traded him.

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Speaker 5: They just should have traded him for and I and

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Speaker 5: Yere's the other thing I do want to say, in

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Speaker 5: fairness to Brandon Aiyuk, we're getting we're seeing like I'm

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Speaker 5: saying to you, I haven't seen him at practice. Things

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Speaker 5: seemed to change. I'm sure there are there is another

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Speaker 5: side here. I'm going to put a lot of blame

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Speaker 5: on a Yuke, but there's definitely gonna blame on the organization.

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Speaker 5: So impossible that there's not. But I think part of

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Speaker 5: that blame, in my humble slash expert opinion as someone

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Speaker 5: who's been covering the seam a long time, is that

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Speaker 5: the issues were not worked out. Like I said, the

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Speaker 5: money was worked out, and he should have been traded

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Speaker 5: then it would have been better for everybody. To his

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Speaker 5: own admission, when he signed the contract last year, he said,

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Speaker 5: I made things more difficult than they had to be

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Speaker 5: and the Fortnatters didn't like his antics. Then he'd gotten

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Speaker 5: to offer August twelfth, twenty twenty four, it's the same

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Speaker 5: offer he ended up signing, and he did make it

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Speaker 5: more difficult, and he said he ultimately wanted to be there,

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Speaker 5: but I don't know that he did want to be there.

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Speaker 5: And it was very interesting after the Super Bowl, and

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Speaker 5: people are very emotional after they lose a super Bowl

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Speaker 5: and we're doing locker clean out and he was asked about,

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Speaker 5: you know, you gonna want to sign extension and he said,

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Speaker 5: I just I don't know. I want to basically said

546
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Speaker 5: I want to be somewhere where I can be a champion.

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Speaker 5: And he was emotional. They were all emotional. Was a

548
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Speaker 5: tough loss. I never really understood what that meant, like

549
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Speaker 5: didn't want to be traded to the Chiefs. I didn't

550
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Speaker 5: really understand what that meant. But looking back on it,

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Speaker 5: the fact that that was even starting to come into

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Speaker 5: his psyche and to his mind says a lot. And

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Speaker 5: I think I think just mistakes were made, and I

554
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Speaker 5: think probably everyone should have parted ways a while ago,

555
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Speaker 5: and I think they will part ways at the end

556
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Speaker 5: of the season, and it's just kind of too bad

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Speaker 5: that it came to this for all sides.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, he has an Arizona State alum.

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Speaker 2: I want to root for him, But.

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Speaker 5: I like Brandon I will say that too. I want

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Speaker 5: to root for him. He's always been really great to me.

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Speaker 5: In the locker room, I do a lot of I

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Speaker 5: call it fun, fun content. I do a think Niner's

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Speaker 5: unplug He's always when he's healthy, he's always available to

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Speaker 5: be a part of it. So I just think mistakes

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Speaker 5: were made all around, and they'd probably blame everywhere.

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Speaker 2: I'm so curious to see, like what provisions were in

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Speaker 2: his contract that could potentially that you know, because we

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Speaker 2: hear that the Niners voided his guarantee.

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Speaker 5: Well get how detrimental because he was not and he

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Speaker 5: didn't They didn't say behavior detrimental to the team, but

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Speaker 5: he wasn't living up to the terms of his contract, right.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I would love to know what those specific

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Speaker 2: terms were because also if they did this all the

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Speaker 2: way back in training camp, did they actually do it

576
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Speaker 2: back in training camp or did they just backdate it

577
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Speaker 2: to that, And what the was the provision in the

578
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Speaker 2: contract that allowed them to do this.

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Speaker 5: Because if they did fight it, I think, yeah, that's

580
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Speaker 5: not to interrupt you, but I think that's a huge

581
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Speaker 5: thing to me. He told the NFL PA he didn't

582
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Speaker 5: want to fight it. There's a lot of money to

583
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Speaker 5: not want to fight, and that tells me a lot, right, So.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, it does because is he like clearly

585
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Speaker 2: he's trying to open the door for a trade, because

586
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Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to like trading someone with

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Speaker 2: that much guaranteed money would have been hard.

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Speaker 3: It's probably getting released.

589
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Speaker 2: Yeah or yes or released and the team's not going

590
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Speaker 2: to do that. He wants to go somewhere else. I

591
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Speaker 2: guess it is a better way to put that. I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm so curious to know, Like, all right, if

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Speaker 2: it did happen in training camp, then like what.

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Speaker 4: Was it that changed?

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Speaker 2: You know, like like because theoretically then he wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: been at practice at all this season, And then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, you said week six he's not a

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Speaker 2: practice on microphe.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, I didn't say week six. I said week six.

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Speaker 5: Is they when they talked about opening his practice window

601
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Speaker 5: and that couldn't happen? He I would say he he

602
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Speaker 5: was at practice the first two weeks. It was early.

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Speaker 5: It was relative Okay, so it wasn't up until week six. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it was relatively early that he stopped.

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Speaker 3: Being at practice. Now I will say, Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 5: It their Monday Night football, so today is like a

607
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Speaker 5: Friday for him in the NFL, so he'll be giving

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Speaker 5: the game status report. This will be the first time

609
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Speaker 5: he speaks to the media since since all this came out.

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Speaker 5: So I obviously am not there today because I am here,

611
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Speaker 5: but I will keep an eye on it. So if

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Speaker 5: anything kind of comes from that that I think is interesting,

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Speaker 5: I'll share it as the show goes on.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good, Well, the show must go on, and let's

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Speaker 2: get to an update break with Martin Wise.

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Speaker 9: College football result has got a lot of teams in

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Speaker 9: laughers right now. We're gonna skip over them for this moment.

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Speaker 9: Seventh rngth Oregon with a fourteen to seven league and

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Speaker 9: I just.

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Speaker 4: Look at the Notre Dame Syracuse scorer.

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Speaker 8: Good God, Carmen.

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Speaker 9: They there's eleven minutes left in the first half, That's

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Speaker 9: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: There are forty two points nothing and with over eleven

625
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Speaker 2: minutes still left the calimpourn.

626
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Speaker 8: They apparently elected to kneel.

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Speaker 10: I mean to wait for the clock to run out

628
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Speaker 10: on third and goal rather than putting in that last

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Speaker 10: touchdown in the first quarter.

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Speaker 8: Oh wow, Well, I guess you know kind move, but

631
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Speaker 8: I mean, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 9: I mean, like East Alabama's playing Eastern Illinois forty two

633
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Speaker 9: to nothing.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for coming out, you.

635
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Speaker 9: Know I it's just earlier today, you know what.

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Speaker 4: I'm not skipping.

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Speaker 8: I'm going through it. Rutgers, thanks for coming out forty

638
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Speaker 8: two to nine.

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Speaker 4: Notre Dad better like they're.

640
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Speaker 2: Fourth stringers in the second half. Like that's all I

641
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Speaker 2: have to say.

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Speaker 9: Jeremiah loves already out of the schedules, third ranked Texas

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Speaker 9: A and m first Samford, who has won one game

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Speaker 9: this year forty eight to nothing.

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Speaker 4: I can go on and on about the SEC scheduling.

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Speaker 9: Angry Okay, Georgia again, nice Charlotte appreciated thirty five to three.

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Speaker 9: All right, at least Missouri and Oklahoma had the dejcy

648
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Speaker 9: to play a ranked game seventeenth to six. Oklahoma gets

649
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Speaker 9: to win, you know, Miami, and listen, you'll find zero

650
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Speaker 9: arguments here as we're looking at USC in Oregon. I

651
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Speaker 9: think I already said this for fourteen to seven. The

652
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Speaker 9: Trojans with the ball to start of the second quarter.

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Speaker 9: Texas right now is Arkansas says two wins in Texas

654
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Speaker 9: has a two point lead as Arkansas just goes into

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Speaker 9: the end zone fourteen to twelve extra point pending for

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Speaker 9: Arkansas started the second quarter there, Tulane with a ten

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Speaker 9: to seven lead over Temple Maryland and Michigan. Michigan with

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Speaker 9: the ball and it's tied seven apiece with two minutes

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Speaker 9: left in the first quarter.

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Speaker 8: And then see elsewhere in the NBA.

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Speaker 9: Clippers guard Chris Paul and Alceill retire at the end

662
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Speaker 9: of this season. Paul's forty years old, eleven time All Star,

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Speaker 9: eleven time member of an All NBA team played twenty

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Speaker 9: three minutes today in a one thirty one to one

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Speaker 9: sixteen win over the Hornets. NFL notes Joe Burrow will

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Speaker 9: not play Sunday against the Patriots, just by practicing this week.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that was never happening.

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Speaker 9: The Steelers defense will have Cam Hayward and Garius Slay

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Speaker 9: Sunday against Chicago. Aaron Rodgers still questionable with that left

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Speaker 9: wrist fracture.

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Speaker 8: Back to you guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Martin, Thank you Martin.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna see but game of the week, Ah, there's

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Speaker 2: like two games of the week. We'll get to that

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Speaker 2: in a second, but one of them for sure I'm

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Speaker 2: so excited to talk to our next guest about the

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Speaker 2: Bucks Rams game in LA and we have Greg Amman

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Speaker 2: from Fox Sports on the line.

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Speaker 4: Greg, how are.

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Speaker 10: You good, car? I'm good to hear your voice. I

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Speaker 10: hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 4: Same and right back at you now. All right.

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Speaker 2: So I already's preface this by saying this is a

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Speaker 2: game of the week. This is kind of one of those.

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Speaker 2: This is a must win for the Bucks to keep,

686
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Speaker 2: you know, the division going down the slippery slope of

687
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Speaker 2: perhaps losing this division and not having control of it

688
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Speaker 2: at the very least and not controlling their own destiny.

689
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Speaker 2: Rams are riding a five game win streaks. Theoretically, you

690
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Speaker 2: think maybe they could be due for a loss.

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Speaker 8: Greg.

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Speaker 2: I also know that there is there was a bug,

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Speaker 2: an illness that swept through the Bucks building this week.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell me how everyone's doing and what we

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Speaker 2: think is going to happen leading.

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Speaker 4: Up to this game. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I think the illness was like a midweek thing more

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Speaker 10: than this a Sunday thing. They had like boths. When

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Speaker 10: we talked to Boles on Wednesday, I think he said

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Speaker 10: fifteen players and five coaches to where it's like epidemic,

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Speaker 10: and then by like sir say, I think everybody was

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Speaker 10: off the injury report, so, like I said, probably not

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Speaker 10: the healthiest week, but I don't think it's something that

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Speaker 10: will necessarily impact the game.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's good news for the Bucks.

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Speaker 5: I think that's very do you is Cartman called it

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Speaker 5: a Muslin game, and I could not agree with her more.

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Speaker 5: Is that kind of the feeling in the building even

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Speaker 5: with the illness or is that kind of the prevailing thought?

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Speaker 5: They may not call it that, but is that kind

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Speaker 5: of the vibe?

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 10: It's one of those where again, I think it's a

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Speaker 10: game they want to win. It's a game they would

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Speaker 10: do well to win as long as Carolina loses to

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Speaker 10: the Niners, and it's not really a must win. It's

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Speaker 10: one of those where, you know, the main thing it

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Speaker 10: probably hurts them is in terms of like seeding, like

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Speaker 10: they've done well so far to beat the Seahawks, to

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Speaker 10: be the Niners, to have kind of the edge on

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Speaker 10: whoever comes out of the NFC West, maybe for the

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Speaker 10: three seed in the NFC, and to lose to the

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Speaker 10: Rams would probably you know, hurt that it's a conference laws,

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Speaker 10: those kind of things. But they're going to come out

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Speaker 10: of this even if they've lost three in a row

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Speaker 10: and five out of six and then kind of another

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Speaker 10: mid season swoon for them, with a really easy last

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Speaker 10: six games, and as long as they kind of take

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Speaker 10: care of business there, they should have a division title,

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Speaker 10: have a home game, might not have more than that.

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Speaker 10: That's kind of where they are with the injuries they

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Speaker 10: have right now.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about what was one

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Speaker 2: of those injuries, or is one of those injuries or

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening.

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Speaker 4: But what's the latest with Bucky Irving.

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Speaker 2: They're they're running back who had a tremendous start to

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Speaker 2: the season and has now missed quite a few games

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Speaker 2: under some I don't know if you want to call

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Speaker 2: it kind of tenuous circumstances.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so Todd both talked about him briefly after practice Friday.

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Speaker 10: You know, Bucky hasn't played since Week four, the last

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Speaker 10: we had seen him. You know, at practice he was

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Speaker 10: in a boot when crutches had a shoulder injury. And

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Speaker 10: it's kind of been one of those cryptic things. We're

746
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Speaker 10: in the NFL. If you don't put a guy on

747
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Speaker 10: I R there's this expectation they might pull two or

748
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Speaker 10: three games, So it's just been as perpetual as a

749
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Speaker 10: injury for him. Both hays In necessarily had a lot

750
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Speaker 10: of details about him. We hadn't him at all. So

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Speaker 10: he returned to practice last week, and both made a

752
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Speaker 10: point to say Friday that there's a little bit more

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Speaker 10: going on and that when Bucky got hurt, he said

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Speaker 10: he didn't handle it well, hadn't really been hurt, hadn't

755
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Speaker 10: been away from the team before. So I do think

756
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Speaker 10: there's a little bit more on a personal level for

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Speaker 10: him than just having a shoulder injury right now. But

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Speaker 10: both did say that every expectation now is that he'll

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Speaker 10: be able to play in return next week at home

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Speaker 10: against Arizona. They get three games in a row at home,

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Speaker 10: and it's kind of like a little bit of the

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Speaker 10: cavalry for the final stretch, if you will. They get

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Speaker 10: They should get Chris Godwin back Sunday in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 10: and there's still a lot of pieces that could come

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Speaker 10: back for them, But getting Bucky Irving back obviously be

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Speaker 10: a huge help. Knowing how much of a big foot

767
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Speaker 10: threat he was and how central he was in their

768
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Speaker 10: run game been so much better last year than it

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Speaker 10: had been, or really how it's been this year. Greg.

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Speaker 5: It's funny because this season in some ways has totally

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Speaker 5: flown by, and then you say six more games and

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Speaker 5: it feels like, wow, they still have six more games,

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Speaker 5: which is a lot of games left to play. But

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Speaker 5: with the Bucks and how they started, and they have

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Speaker 5: the big one over the Niners and then they have

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Speaker 5: all these injuries, has it felt like a number of

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Speaker 5: seasons rolled up into one in this last these last

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Speaker 5: six games are basically like a fresh season for them

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Speaker 5: in some ways a little bit.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's like everybody used to do the midway point

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Speaker 10: or the quarter point, and now it's kind of weird.

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Speaker 10: With an eighteen week season, you can do thirds, and

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Speaker 10: the Box obviously had an amazing first third. If you

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Speaker 10: will to go five and one, they're like number one

785
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Speaker 10: and everybody's power rankings. You know, they're only losses and

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Speaker 10: are the Eagles and the Lions soon after that, and

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Speaker 10: then the second again, they've kind of had this where

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Speaker 10: if you have a first fight schedule and a really

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Speaker 10: bad division, the middle of your season can be really daunting.

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Speaker 10: So it's one of those words, you know, even if

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Speaker 10: they lose against the Rams. It's three losses to the Bills,

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Speaker 10: the Patriots, and the Rams. There's not really a bad

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Speaker 10: loss they've had yet. Like somebody, I think the Fox

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Speaker 10: Power rankings have them at like eleven, okay, and their

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Speaker 10: four losses are the teams that are like two, four, seven,

796
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Speaker 10: and nine, So there's not there's not a bad loss,

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Speaker 10: and they've beaten six and ten in the same power ranking.

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Speaker 10: I just think because they've had games that got away

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Speaker 10: from them. You know, Buffalo is a game where they

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Speaker 10: let in the fourth quarter right, and then they gave

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Speaker 10: gave up to eighty year touchdown drives to finish the game.

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Speaker 10: So there's definitely a sense of disappointment. And I think

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Speaker 10: if they didn't have this this huge asterisk of all

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Speaker 10: the injuries they're dealing with, especially on offense, I think

805
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Speaker 10: it'd be more of a concern. But I think it's

806
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Speaker 10: just they're dinged up and they have a chance to

807
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Speaker 10: kind of come together against weaker oppulements in the final

808
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Speaker 10: months of the season and try and make some hay

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Speaker 10: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: How much do you think Chris Godwin coming back allows

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Speaker 2: Baker to push the ball down the field a little

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Speaker 2: bit more, which has been kind of notably absent in

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Speaker 2: these last if you want to say this last third

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Speaker 2: of the season.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it helps a ton. I mean, they

816
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Speaker 10: had such amazing receiver depth going into the year, and

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Speaker 10: if you lose three or top four, suddenly a Mecca

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Speaker 10: Abuka is really the only guy that that feels like

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Speaker 10: an every down receiver in the NFL. You know, I

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Speaker 10: think Ted Johnson has done amazingly well, but he's a

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Speaker 10: seventh round draft pick who has four touchdowns. Hilly Shepherd.

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Speaker 10: I think he has stepped up, but Shilly Shepherd, you know,

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Speaker 10: it's probably a fifth receiver on his team under normal circumstances.

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Speaker 10: So to get God went back in just the normal

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Speaker 10: scene and the reliability of having somebody that's consistent and

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Speaker 10: reliable downfield. He came back for two games against the

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Speaker 10: Eagles and the Seahawks, but probably wasn't himself. I think

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Speaker 10: he has like fifty four yards this season. So you're

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Speaker 10: talking about somebody that you know, was getting a huge contract.

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Speaker 10: You know, every hope that he'd be able to come

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Speaker 10: back from a major injury and it just hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 10: So I think they've been careful with him to not

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Speaker 10: rush him back this time and again. I mean, it

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Speaker 10: could be a huge difference, just to give somebody else

835
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Speaker 10: that defenses have to respect downfield, somebody to take some

836
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Speaker 10: of the load off of Mecca Buka, who I think

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Speaker 10: has handled it. I don't think he expected to be

838
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Speaker 10: a receiver one in the NFL last year, but I

839
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Speaker 10: think it makes life easier for everybody else on offense

840
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Speaker 10: to have Chris Gottwin back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I think that's just the biggest thing

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Speaker 4: that's missing with their offense right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, Greg, I really appreciate you taking a few minutes

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Speaker 2: of your time, tik I'm on a Saturday to talk

845
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Speaker 2: to us as always, so thank you so much, and

846
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 2: enjoy the game tomorrow.

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00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 10: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: All right, bye, Greg.

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Speaker 2: All right, We've got our dues and the don'ts of

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Speaker 2: the week coming up after this. You're listening to Fox

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Speaker 2: Football Saturday. Welcome back in to Fox Sports Radio. It's

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Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday. I'm your host, Karmen Vitally and I

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00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: have Tracy Sandler with me as well. Uh. We just

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Speaker 2: talked to Greg Ahman ahead of Bucks Rams, which is

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Speaker 2: going to be one of the games of the week.

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Speaker 2: I think the fun part about being in the back

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Speaker 2: third of the season now is that like every game

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Speaker 2: could really mean something, or at least between any sort

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Speaker 2: of team that's over five hundred. Yeah, so it's gonna

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Speaker 2: get off the air. All right, well, it's it's time

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Speaker 2: for our weekly segment, the Dues and the Don'ts of

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Speaker 2: the Week.

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Speaker 6: High putting a spotlight on the don't The subject brings

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Speaker 1: It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.

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Speaker 2: All right, I want, I'll start, I will start.

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Speaker 4: Okay, go for it.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm starting with a don't and it's not

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Speaker 2: totally a complete sentence, but it's still complain especially when

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Speaker 2: you're faced with the decision between millions of dollars. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know where I'm going with this,

882
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Speaker 2: but Lane Kiffin came out Ole Missus head coach came

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Speaker 2: out talking about systematic.

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Speaker 4: Issues with the college calendar.

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Speaker 2: While and listen, while he's not wrong, You're not the

886
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Speaker 2: one that needs to be complaining about this. You are

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Speaker 2: electively choosing to potentially leave a college a contender, a

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Speaker 2: lay off contender, if not a national champion, can tender

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Speaker 2: to go to another school.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: This is not a situation that literally, like anyone else

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Speaker 2: would find themselves in, except for.

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Speaker 4: Lane Kiffen, who is being.

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Speaker 2: Courted by Florida and LSU LSUS reportedly wants to offer

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Speaker 2: him ninety million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Of course, just like I can't even wrap my head

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Speaker 3: around that.

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Speaker 2: And like Ole Missus ad Cam comes out and says

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Speaker 2: like we're gonna wait on that, and like we'll we'll

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Speaker 2: have a decision on Lane's future here with the university

901
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Speaker 2: after the Egg Bowl, And I'm like, this is all

902
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Speaker 2: just absolutely insane, But like, if anyone's gonna complain about it,

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Speaker 2: it should be John summerl at Tulane. Who you know,

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Speaker 2: Tulane is ranked the twenty fourth ranked to Tulane. Like

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Speaker 2: John Sumral is clearly one of those coaches that is

906
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Speaker 2: ready for a bigger job. But like this is like

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Speaker 2: having to talk about that and maybe go out for

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Speaker 2: one of these jobs the LSU lord of jobs, these

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Speaker 2: these vacancies that are already there, Like he's kind of

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Speaker 2: put in a bad position because of the college calendar

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Speaker 2: and the way the hiring cycle is. But Lane Kiffin,

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Speaker 2: when you were electively choosing to potentially leave a contender

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Speaker 2: to go to another school, like I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: want to hear it.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 3: That's fair. I think that's that's very very fair.

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Speaker 5: I also think it's really funny that it's going to

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Speaker 5: be after the egg Bowl, which is a real thing,

919
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Speaker 5: but it just sounds fake. I mean, it makes it

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Speaker 5: the whole thing sounds just kind of ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: But it is ridiculous. It is, well it is. It's

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Speaker 4: fittingly ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: All eyes on the egg bowl, you guys, all eyes

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Speaker 5: on the egg ball. All right, I'm going to do

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Speaker 5: a do This is one of my favorite two weeks

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Speaker 5: in the NFL. Is my cause my cleats and NFL

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Speaker 5: players put literally put their causes on their cleats, raise

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Speaker 5: money for organizations, bring attention to organizations that mean a

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Speaker 5: lotch them. It's I just think it is such a

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Speaker 5: cool thing, and I my do is a little bit

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Speaker 5: to the NFL. Let my cause my cleats be all

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Speaker 5: year round. I mean, it's just such a cool time

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Speaker 5: of year. You get to really see what some of

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Speaker 5: these players are past about, and there's so many good ones.

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Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey's The Logan Project is giving money to families

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Speaker 5: with children who are suffering from cancer. Curtis Robinson is

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Speaker 5: working with Solomon Thomas Thomas's Foundation on You Suicide prevention,

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Speaker 5: and you just it's just great and I wish it's

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Speaker 5: something that could be implemented year round, even if there

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Speaker 5: were two weeks to make it extra special. It's a

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Speaker 5: special time in the NFL, so to do pay attention

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Speaker 5: this weekend next to my cosmic cleats, what your players

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Speaker 5: are supporting, learn more about it because it's just.

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Speaker 3: Really really cool and the cleats look great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love this.

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Speaker 2: I mean working for a team was always like my

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Speaker 2: cause my cleates week was always insane because I wanted

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Speaker 2: to I was always writing like four to five features

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Speaker 2: about these guys causes, and it was like it always

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Speaker 2: all condensed into one week, and you were just you

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Speaker 2: wanted to do justice to each one of these stories,

952
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Speaker 2: and like you really it was hard, but it was

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Speaker 2: such good stuff and good work. So I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I loved them bringing Awareen. I think they should let

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Speaker 2: him do it all the time. But hey, we've got

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Speaker 2: a lot more comming up for you. Right after this.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Football Saturday. Welcome back in for

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Speaker 2: hour two of Fox Football Saturday. I am carme vitally.

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Speaker 2: I've got Tracy Sandler with me. We're having a great time.

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Speaker 2: It's been a great show so far. We talked a

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Speaker 2: little bit about this Brandon Ayuk saga that continues in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco, and I'm told Tracy have a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Of an update.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan speaking to the media today for the first

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Speaker 5: time since the news broke. I'm obviously not there because

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Speaker 5: I'm here, but I'm keeping an eye on it and

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Speaker 5: a couple of things. He said that Brandon Ayuke's twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty six guarantees were in fact voided in July.

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Speaker 3: He wouldn't get the specifics. But that was that. But

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Speaker 3: then he also said this one I'm not so sure of.

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Speaker 3: But he also said they.

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Speaker 5: Were aiming to get Brandon and i Ayuke back on

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Speaker 5: the field. By now his progress is plateaued.

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Speaker 3: Quote.

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Speaker 5: I still hold out hope that he could get there.

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Speaker 5: In my expert opinion, that is not going to happen,

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Speaker 5: but we'll see. I mean, Kyle Shanhan knows more than

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Speaker 5: I do, but still I feel pretty confident in making

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Speaker 5: that prediction.

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Speaker 3: But those are your updates.

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Speaker 5: There were questions on when exactly in training camp were

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Speaker 5: these guarantees voided.

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Speaker 3: What is interesting about.

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Speaker 5: That is I took a video of Brinda Yuke at

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Speaker 5: a preseason game in August in Las Vegas, in pregame

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Speaker 5: warm ups, running routes, so those would have had it

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Speaker 5: been voided before that. For that, he was not one

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Speaker 5: hundred percent healthy by any means at that time. But

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Speaker 5: it is kind of interesting from a timing perspective, and

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Speaker 5: I'm sure we will learn more in the coming days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That goes back to then my question of all right,

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Speaker 2: so if these contracts or if these guarantees were avoided

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Speaker 2: in July, and you said that at least for the

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Speaker 2: first couple of weeks of the seasons. Yeah, that he

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Speaker 2: was out there, he was practicing, and like, if he wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Practicing, if he wasn't practicing, his practices had not been right.

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Speaker 3: But he'd been. But he was there as an observer, right,

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Speaker 3: he was.

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Speaker 2: He was out there at practice, yes, and with the team.

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Speaker 2: Sound like he was in the meeting rooms as well,

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Speaker 2: and he went through the full training camp like you

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Speaker 2: know again also supporting the team, doing all the things

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Speaker 2: that he needs to be doing while he's rehabbing. Then, like,

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Speaker 2: what changed it is because at that point he would

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Speaker 2: have known that these contents, these guarantees were avoided. And

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Speaker 2: I want, Yeah, I just I wonder, I wonder what

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Speaker 2: is the real story here?

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Speaker 5: And I think we will get we'll probably get more

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Speaker 5: specifics on that. I understand Kyle not wanting to get

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Speaker 5: into them today and he probably doesn't want to get

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Speaker 5: into it at all, but they're gonna They're probably gonna

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Speaker 5: have to address it at sometime, even if it's John

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Speaker 5: Lynch who ends up addressing it.

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Speaker 3: But we will see how this all plays out. But

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Speaker 3: that is kind of the the news of the moment.

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Speaker 4: Why did it all come out now?

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Speaker 3: And why did it all come out now?

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Speaker 2: As you know, a lot of this stuff, especially like

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Speaker 2: stuff like this, it doesn't leak on accident, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean.

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Speaker 3: No, it does not.

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Speaker 5: And great reporting from Mike Silver and Diana Russini and

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Speaker 5: they really did a great job on this to friends

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Speaker 5: from the athletic but no, it doesn't. It doesn't happen

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Speaker 5: on accident. So I don't know, it's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 4: The ulterior motive to leaking this now.

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Speaker 5: Yes, let's going they know, they did say in the story.

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Speaker 5: The forty nine ers didn't comment. Brandon Aiyuk's team didn't comment, so.

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Speaker 4: This isn't new to them.

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Speaker 3: No, it's but I'll tell you what it is, drama.

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Speaker 5: The forty nine ers, who specialize in quarterback drama, are

1034
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Speaker 5: broadening their horizons to wide receiver drama. And they've had

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Speaker 5: quite a bit of it the last year. So congratulations.

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Speaker 5: I think the more you can do, the better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there you go, and listen. Hey, you're never

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Speaker 4: going to be short on storylines with a team that

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Speaker 4: you covered, Tracy.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that is for sure, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that's not short on storylines. Fox Sports pregame

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Okay, so let's get

1051
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Speaker 2: into some stuff that's going to happen though tomorrow and

1052
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Speaker 2: we're getting week twelve. We talked about a little bit

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Speaker 2: about this with Greg Alman, who we had on the

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Speaker 2: show last hour, but Bucks rams I mentioned it when

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Speaker 2: we talked to Greg in that something that's been missing

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Speaker 2: with Tampa over the last few weeks has just been

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Speaker 2: the explosive aspect to their passing offense. Baker just hasn't

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Speaker 2: been able to connect down the field, and again you're

1059
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Speaker 2: down your top receivers.

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Speaker 4: That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Guys get moved around, Guys get moved into positions where

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Speaker 2: maybe they weren't quite ready for them yet, or it's

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Speaker 2: just it's hard when a rookie, I mean, Abuka is

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Speaker 2: your only guy that you can considerably rely on down

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Speaker 2: the field. It makes it really easy easy for defense

1066
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Speaker 2: is to take that away. But Mayfield's eleven point one

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Speaker 2: percent deep complete should rate over this span is the

1068
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Speaker 2: from week seven to eleven is the span is the

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Speaker 2: lowest by any quarterback to attempt at least five deep passes. However,

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Speaker 2: they're going into a I mean they're going into LA.

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Speaker 2: They're in the Rams house, and the Rams defense has

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Speaker 2: allowed just four deep completions across the first six weeks

1073
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Speaker 2: this season, which is tied for the third fewest, but

1074
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Speaker 2: have surrendered eight deep completions since then, which is tied

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Speaker 2: to the third most. So they've kind of had. Now

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Speaker 2: we wonder, all right, do the Rams get back on

1077
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Speaker 2: track defensively or does Baker get back on track offensively?

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Speaker 2: I think that's what a lot of what this game

1079
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Speaker 2: is going to come down to, because you're gonna need

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Speaker 2: to push the ball down the field. You're gonna need explosives,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna need production and scoring points if you want

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Speaker 2: to keep up with the Rams.

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Speaker 5: And you know Greg had said that should the four

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Speaker 5: Niners beat the Panthers. Yes, this would be a very

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Speaker 5: good game for them to win. It's at a Muslin game.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that the four nine ers ap are

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Speaker 5: one hundred percent beating the Panthers. I think they should

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Speaker 5: beat the Panthers. But I think this is a much

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Speaker 5: tougher game today than maybe it looked like a month ago.

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Speaker 5: So to me, and again I don't cover the Bucks.

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Speaker 5: I'm not in the building every day, but just from

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00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 5: the outside, this feels very must win. You mentioned the

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00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 5: Rams are on a five game winning streak. Are they

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00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 5: due for a loss? So which one of these two prevail?

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00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 5: Gut Gut tells me it might be Baker getting back

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00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 5: on track. But the issue I think is that Baker

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00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 5: could get back on track and the Rams defense could

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00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 5: also get back on track, right, in which case I

1100
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 5: think the Rams have the up.

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00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, then who then who wins? And I mean, Matthew

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00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: Stafford is having an incredible season. I keep saying it,

1103
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: But whatever was in that cryo chamber in training camp?

1104
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: What it was that little aluminum trailer?

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00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 5: I want it asap staff I mean in LA Maybe

1106
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 5: I'll have to go check it out and just see hey, guys,

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00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: can I do it?

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00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: Guess run I didn't mention it what Greg was on

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00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: with us because we kind of ran out of time.

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00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: But he wrote for Fox Sports dot Com. He wrote

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00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: an oral history of Baker's debut with the Rams a

1112
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: few years ago. When he came in, Oh, I read

1113
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: tremendous bat Like it was just a literal storybook like

1114
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: movie like you know how people say, oh, it was

1115
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: a movie. Like no, it literally was a movie, like

1116
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: they could make a movie out of that. He had

1117
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: gotten to the Rams two days prior and all of

1118
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: a sudden, like and and Greg tracked down all of

1119
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: those coaches that were there.

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00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 4: He tried.

1121
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: He talked to Baker's wife and talked to her about

1122
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: how like she almost didn't fly out because Baker was like, Oh,

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00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: there's no way I'm getting in and then like the

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00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: day before he was like, ooh, you might want to

1125
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 2: get in here, and like she had to fly out

1126
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: because he had just gotten released. So it was just

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00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: it was it's a very interesting article. I really encourage

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00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 2: you guys to go read it. Another The other Game

1129
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: of the Week contender Colts chiefs uh, and we're going

1130
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: to talk to Colts team reporter Laara Overton in this hour,

1131
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: which I'm super excited about. But this game is so

1132
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 2: interesting because we're finally kind of like, uh, are the

1133
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: Chiefs actually in trouble? Like this is this to talk about?

1134
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: It must win, Like the Chiefs have to win this game. Yeah,

1135
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: and they're going against a red hot Colts team. And

1136
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: the way that these matchups kind of work, I point

1137
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: to one specific thing, and that's what I try to

1138
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: do when we do this previous I point to one

1139
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: specific thing that I think the game could ride on. Essentially,

1140
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: and Daniel Jones for all of the wonderful things and

1141
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: we'll get to this in a little bit that he

1142
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: is doing right now. When using play action this season,

1143
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has completed over seventy percent of his past attempts,

1144
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: averaging the fifth most yards per attempt at nine point two.

1145
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: You contrast that with how the Chiefs have done against

1146
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: play action this season. They've allowed a league high eighty

1147
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: one point two percent completion percentage against play action as

1148
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 2: well as the second most yards per attempt with eleven.

1149
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: So what Daniel Jones is extremely good at, the Chiefs

1150
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: defense has been extremely bad at this year, and to me,

1151
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: that could just mean sustain drives. That could mean points

1152
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: and a lot of production out of this Colts offense

1153
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: led by Daniel Jones against a Chiefs team that is

1154
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 2: desperate for a win.

1155
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 5: Well, I hesitate to say what I'm about to say

1156
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 5: because I'm saying it, so therefore it won't be. However,

1157
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 5: I all season long have felt like I can't count

1158
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 5: out the Chiefs.

1159
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 3: I can't count out with Patrick Mahomes.

1160
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 5: I think I'm getting to the point where the I

1161
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 5: think I'm counting out the Chiefs. I just think it's

1162
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 5: we talked about the NFL being cyclical earlier on in coaches,

1163
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 5: but I think that their cycle, their time has maybe

1164
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 5: not come to an end. But I'm kind of counting

1165
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 5: out the Chiefs. They're just better teams, more complete teams.

1166
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is incredible. I will not take that away

1167
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 5: from He is absolutely incredible, and as long as he

1168
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 5: has their quarterback, they have a chance. But they are

1169
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 5: coming up against teams that are just playing better, that

1170
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 5: are more complete, that just do the things that they

1171
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 5: do better. And I feel like every week they're coming

1172
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 5: up against a team where the thing that that team

1173
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 5: does well the Chiefs going against it do really poorly

1174
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 5: at and I just think it's it's kind of done,

1175
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 5: and that's not a bad thing they've had. I mean,

1176
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 5: it's probably for them, but they've heck of a run

1177
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 5: and they'll probably have it again. But I am now

1178
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 5: at the point where I think they're done. And because

1179
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 5: I've said it, that probably won't be true, but I

1180
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 5: they've that's what they've.

1181
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: Done to me. That's why they've done going in a listen,

1182
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: I think it's understandable.

1183
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm quite there yet, but I will

1184
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: tell you why I'm closer to that than I'm not.

1185
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 4: Okay, And it's not necessarily even.

1186
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: Having to do with the Chiefs struggling, because again we've

1187
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: seen them struggle and come back and be fine and

1188
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: go to the Super Bowl, win the Super Bowl whatever.

1189
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: What concerns me now is now you have these other

1190
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: teams in the conference that are getting better and rising up,

1191
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: and now the Chief's main competition is no longer just

1192
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. It's now the New England Patriots again,

1193
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: and it's the Denver Broncos, and it's perhaps even the Chargers,

1194
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: it's the Colts, it's it's there's so many more teams

1195
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: that are ascending right now in that conference that are

1196
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: making the just just the competition level that much harder.

1197
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: And now the Chiefs don't like you talk about how

1198
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: the Bills might have missed their window, but like, and

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00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: it's for the same reason in that like, the Bill's

1200
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: main competitor or competition was the Chiefs, and the Chief's

1201
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: main competition was the Bills.

1202
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: And now like so many other teams have entered.

1203
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 5: The villa, yes, has entered the villa and multiple I

1204
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 5: my AFC Championship prediction is Colts Francos. That is who

1205
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 5: I see in the AFC Championship.

1206
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I like it.

1207
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: I had I think at the beginning of the season,

1208
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: I have my Super Bowl prediction was Packers Bills, which

1209
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't look as good as it did

1210
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the season, but I don't know.

1211
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, I mean, I think that when we're

1212
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: talking about parody being at an all time high in

1213
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: the NFL this season, it's going to manifest in a

1214
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: Super Bowl matchup and a conference conference championship matchups that

1215
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: perhaps we didn't see coming at the beginning of the year,

1216
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: which I love. And one quick note just because we

1217
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: have to get out of here soon. But still don't

1218
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 2: know if Aaron Rodgers will play against Chicago this weekend

1219
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: in yeah, Soldier Field, where he apparently owns.

1220
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean, well his mere presence however, just for felled.

1221
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

1222
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: The Steelers did upgrade a couple of players from their

1223
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: questionable status to you know, not no game designation, saying

1224
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna go. Aaron Rodgers was not one of those players,

1225
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: so he still has a chance, but he still listened

1226
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: as questionable. Chicago, meanwhile, is missing their starting three linebackers.

1227
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: They did not bring about Kyler Gordon or Jalen Johnson,

1228
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: They did not activate them off of injured reserve, and

1229
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: they added Tremaine Edmunds two injured reserve, just very quietly.

1230
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 4: They just added him to the website without telling anybody.

1231
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 3: It was quiet.

1232
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 5: It was like, oh, interesting, okay, don't get me started.

1233
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: But anyway, so this is gonna be I don't know,

1234
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: it's gonna be very interesting because if Rodgers ends up

1235
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 2: playing and the Bears defense is that banged up and

1236
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 2: without where it's it's, Rogers might retain his deed.

1237
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 4: That's all I have to say.

1238
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 3: That's fair.

1239
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: All right.

1240
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: Coming up after this, we've got a top three quarterback discussion.

1241
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: Who we think those are? Coming up? You're listening to

1242
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday. Welcome back in to Fox Sports Radio

1243
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 2: for a Fox Football Saturday. I'm Carmon Vitally. That's Tracy Sandler.

1244
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: Hello.

1245
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 4: We're having a great show. I'm having fun.

1246
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 5: I'm having fun too. This is a great show. It

1247
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 5: feels it just feels it feels very much like Weird

1248
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 5: Week twelve of the NFL, and there's all the things

1249
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 5: are happening, and it's just been really fun to get.

1250
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: All the thing Like it was so easy to like

1251
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: come up with topics for today. I was just like, oh,

1252
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: well we can talk about that. We can talk about that, Like,

1253
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean, there are things that I had to cut.

1254
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1255
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: Did you hear barking in the background? That is That

1256
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: is my now one year old dog. He celebrated his

1257
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: birthday yesterday.

1258
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 4: Happy birthday, Shout out, Mozzarelstick. His name is Mozzarelistick. He

1259
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: goes by Mozzie.

1260
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 5: Happy Birthday, Mozzie, So I do prefer to call him

1261
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 5: by his full name monzrelistic, mozrelistic.

1262
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: I know it's it's he's got a white stripe down

1263
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: his chest and then he's like the color of the breading.

1264
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: So it just it all worked out and it's hysterical.

1265
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: But like when I get mad at him, I call

1266
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: him by his full name, and I'm like, this is stupid.

1267
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: I can't call him by his full name.

1268
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: Do you know the use checks?

1269
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 5: By the way, I have a dog named Mozzarella and

1270
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 5: they call him Matfi. Really ye, Monzella and Parrogi, but Mozzarella.

1271
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: They go so cute.

1272
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: Wait are they? I mean, obviously Kyle is Polish, but

1273
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 4: are they also Italian?

1274
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: I believe yes, because that's me. I'm assuming I'm Polish

1275
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: and Italian.

1276
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 4: I'm the Chicago mix. It's great. Basically, I'm basically a

1277
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: used check. This is fantastic.

1278
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, moving back on to you can move full backs,

1279
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: having onto quarterbacks before we get there. With the iHeartRadio app,

1280
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 2: you can stream us and this conversation wherever you happen

1281
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: to be. Catch us in all of our Fox Sports

1282
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: Radio shows live twenty four to seven in the new

1283
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,080
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1284
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,080
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1285
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one

1286
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: of your presets in the iHeart app so that it

1287
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: will always pop up the top of your screen. What

1288
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: I want to talk about is the top of the

1289
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 2: NFL when it comes to quarterbacks. And I want to

1290
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 2: preface this by saying like, this is this is this year,

1291
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: this is right now. I'm not taking into account past years.

1292
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: I'm not taking into account passed Super Bowls. This that

1293
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 2: the other I am talking about this year from weeks

1294
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 2: one to now week twelve. Who are the top three

1295
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league. And there is a case to

1296
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: be made that this goes Drake May, Sam Darnold, and

1297
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones in basically any order you want to put

1298
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: them in, because Drake May leads the league right now

1299
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: in EPA per drop back completion percentage. He's completing seventy

1300
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 2: one point nine percent of his passes in is only

1301
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: a second year in the NFL. Sam Donald leads the

1302
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: league in success rate and first down percentage. Daniel Jones

1303
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: is second or third in all of those metrics, and

1304
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: just you know, is killing it for the Colts on

1305
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: a red hot Colts team, it's you know, Lamar Jackson's,

1306
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. They deserve to be

1307
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 2: in the convo here too, of course, But again, if

1308
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 2: we're talking strictly this Sea, it's those three. And it's

1309
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: why I love this stupid sport so incredibly much. Because

1310
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: who in the world saw the league's top three quarterbacks

1311
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: this season being Drake May, Sam Darnald and Daniel Jones.

1312
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 5: I think probably no one. Anybody who says they did

1313
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 5: is lying. I'm sorry hearing.

1314
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: Oh, even if you believe that, like Sam Dnald was

1315
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: changed for good to borrow a wicked phrase, you know,

1316
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: from his time and it is from his time in Minnesota. Like,

1317
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: even if you believed that, did you really see him

1318
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: becoming one of the three best quarterbacks in the league.

1319
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I know, I definitely did not. I'm

1320
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 5: still a little on the fence there. So I looked

1321
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 5: at this. I looked at this yes week one through twelve,

1322
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 5: But also I looked at it kind of as we're

1323
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 5: going down the stretch and who kind of is hot

1324
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 5: right now, who's improving? I did not have darn on

1325
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 5: my list, and part of the reason is because yes,

1326
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 5: we're talking weeks one through twelve and not what's happened

1327
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 5: in the past. But what I'm going to say happened

1328
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: in the past and is continuing, and that's why I'm

1329
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 5: going to bring it up. You know, Sam Donald, his

1330
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 5: last two games as the Vikings, the two most important

1331
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 5: games he played as a Viking, did not go well.

1332
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 5: Multiple turnovers, multiple sacks, did not go well. They are

1333
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 5: the Seahawks are really really good football team. I put

1334
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 5: them in probably one of the top five teams in

1335
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 5: the league right now. He has been playing tremendously well.

1336
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 5: The turnovers are still the problem. He had a Monday

1337
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 5: night game with five turnovers and he they won. They

1338
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 5: had a game last weekgainst the Rams four turnovers they

1339
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 5: almost won, which I think speaks to how good the

1340
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 5: defense is and how good the Seahawks are over all.

1341
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 5: The turnovers to me take him out of the top three.

1342
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 5: And maybe that's not fair, but I think to me

1343
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 5: that takes him the top three. I put Stafford in

1344
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 5: his place because of how he's been playing all season.

1345
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 5: But Sam Donald could very much prove me wrong or

1346
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 5: change my mind by going through this final stretch into

1347
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 5: the playoffs without those problems.

1348
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: I really like Sam Donald.

1349
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 5: He was at the Foe and Hours for a year,

1350
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 5: really nice guy, did all the community events like great guys.

1351
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 5: So I want him to be successful. But the turnovers,

1352
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 5: to me, are just an issue that hasn't gone away.

1353
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 5: And that's why I don't have him in my top three.

1354
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 5: He's not far below, but I don't have him in

1355
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 5: my top three.

1356
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like when I, you know, talking about this year,

1357
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: and I said, there's a case we made that those

1358
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: are the top three, like those are I don't even

1359
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: know if those are my top three because I really

1360
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: did think I would put Stafford in there too, like

1361
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: honestly because just of the season that he's having and

1362
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 2: the season that the Rams are having, and the fact

1363
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: that we're talking about Sam Donald again. I think he's

1364
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: been phenomenal and I think he is a really good quarterback,

1365
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: but he is being helped tremendously by a very like

1366
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: one of the league's best defenses at this point. And

1367
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: do I necessarily like, if if your game on the line,

1368
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: like if you look at this or another lens of

1369
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 2: like game on the line, who do I want under center?

1370
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: Is it Sam Donald? Or is it Matt Stafford. Well,

1371
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: the answer is Matthew Stafford.

1372
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: And it's probably Patrick Mahomes.

1373
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: It's probably Patrick Mahomes. It's probably Josh Allen. I know

1374
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: Marje Allen.

1375
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 5: I actually don't know if I would say Pat Ja's

1376
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 5: I don't know that.

1377
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 3: I think it's Josh hallandor Lamar Jackson.

1378
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: I kind of I was, you know, I can't talk

1379
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: out of both sides of my mouth here because I

1380
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: talked earlier about.

1381
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: You totally can I talked earlier about how.

1382
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is being failed by the team around him,

1383
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: and I'm like, if you put him with a good team,

1384
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: like in my imaginary world where I'm putting who do

1385
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 2: I want on my team under center, like, it's it's

1386
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, because I do think that he can overcome

1387
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: so much and he has, you know, he can do

1388
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: those things. I think he's being failed right now.

1389
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: But he can't. But I have one caveat to that.

1390
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 5: This is just one caveat, is he's not when you're

1391
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 5: pressing like that, I think that's a not great under pressure.

1392
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 5: And I think when we talked about the playoff game

1393
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 5: with the Chiefs last year, he started pretty shaky got

1394
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 5: a lot better, but he started shaky, and so I

1395
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 5: still need to see him be that elite, cool, calm

1396
01:00:59,000 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 5: guy in.

1397
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Matthew Stafford is just like you know these comfort

1398
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: behind wins or just like I mean, he in Like

1399
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anybody, I mean, other than

1400
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. I suppose, but I don't know if there's

1401
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: anyone that I would rather execute a two minute.

1402
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 4: Drill or win a game. Yeah, or than Matthew Stafford.

1403
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 9: One.

1404
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 3: I think that's totally totally fair.

1405
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: No, I mean, but like this is all semantics, and

1406
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: it's really interesting, like if you're gonna broad this like

1407
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: top five quarterbacks, like all of these guys are kind

1408
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: of the ones that belong in there. And just the

1409
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: sheer fact that Drake May as a member of the

1410
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: New England Patriots. I was terrified last year when they

1411
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: put him in mid season behind that offensive line. I

1412
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: was like, they're gonna get him killed and he is

1413
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: going to have a tremendous start to his career. And

1414
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: who knows the effects that that's going to have because

1415
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: we've seen it. We saw with Sam Darnold, we've seen

1416
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: it with Daniel Jones, where like the start that you

1417
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: get in the league matters so incredibly much from a

1418
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: mental perspective and a mechanic's perspective, a development perspective, Like

1419
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: just because you made it to the league doesn't mean

1420
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: you're done developing, growing, or learning as a quarterback, especially

1421
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: because it's the toughest division or it's the toughest position

1422
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: in sports. And I was like, you're gonna put Drake

1423
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 2: May out there behind this piecemeal offensive line. He's gonna

1424
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: get lit up every other play. Turns out, it probably

1425
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: was like the best thing to happen to him, because

1426
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: I think it also let people know and it reminded

1427
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: people just how athletic Drake May is. And it's why

1428
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why I was so incredibly in

1429
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: love with him in the pre draft process, because I

1430
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: was like, not only is this guy an incredible pastor

1431
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: you can tell a really good processor, but he has

1432
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: a lot of athleticism.

1433
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 4: To him that can get him. He can get himself

1434
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 4: out of trouble.

1435
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like he's not a running quarterback by any

1436
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: stretch of the imagination, but like in those scrambles in

1437
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 2: like kind of the pressure evading and even some of

1438
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: those like really short kind of design runs just you know,

1439
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: those outs to the to the sideline just to pick

1440
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 2: up a few yards.

1441
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 4: This, that, and the other.

1442
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: He's incredibly decisive and he is making it look so

1443
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 2: incredibly easy for someone that is this is his Like again,

1444
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: he hasn't even started two full seasons yet, I'm just

1445
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm so impressed.

1446
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could not agree with you more and I

1447
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: think you're right.

1448
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 5: It was the best thing that happened to him, and

1449
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 5: he really he really excelled under pressure.

1450
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 3: I mean, it's unbelievable.

1451
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 5: And then he had Mike Rabel this year and we

1452
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 5: talked a lot about this last week.

1453
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 4: And to be the Patriots coach.

1454
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 5: Coaches, it makes such a difference, and we judge these

1455
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 5: young quarterbacks and we make decisions on them a few

1456
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 5: games into their career, and it's just so unfair because

1457
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 5: there's so many factors and variables that go into it.

1458
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 5: And we're talking about Matthew Stafford, who is we think

1459
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 5: one of the top quarterbacks in the league and certainly

1460
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 5: is and was an excellent quarterback with the Lions, taking

1461
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 5: nothing away from that, but it was still got traded

1462
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 5: and still got traded and but really always kind of

1463
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 5: had that is he elite?

1464
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: Can he take a tea?

1465
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 5: Well, yeah he is, but you do have to be

1466
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 5: in a decent situation. I mean, we're even seeing with Mahomes,

1467
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 5: like Mahomes has been able to overcome so much and

1468
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 5: this may be the year where he just can't because

1469
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 5: there's just not enough around him to help him overcome it.

1470
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 5: And that's just that's the nature of quarterbacking. So it's

1471
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 5: it's really been fun to watch. It's been fun to

1472
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 5: watch him. It's fun I think, you know, we talk

1473
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 5: about Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, these guys that

1474
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 5: were written off and now they're in good situations and

1475
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 5: they're excelling and you love to see it.

1476
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit more about Daniel Jones

1477
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: with our next guest, but first we're going to the

1478
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: update room with Martin Weiss.

1479
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 9: This Oregon and USC game has been back and forth.

1480
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 9: Now I got to check in real quick. Oregon just

1481
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 9: missed a field goal. I'm sorry us. He just missed

1482
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 9: a field goal twenty eight to fourteen.

1483
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: USC to cover. I'm just gonna say that right now.

1484
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna win.

1485
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 4: I need them to come within ten and a half.

1486
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 8: Ten and a half.

1487
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 9: I'll tell you what dway that Lincoln Riley's been calling

1488
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 9: this game good luck.

1489
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 8: No, I will say this.

1490
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 9: I don't know if what Michigan needs to cover, but

1491
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 9: that two minute drill before.

1492
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 8: That, which do you Watchchase? That ridiculous?

1493
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 5: I sure did watch it, but you would never know

1494
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 5: by my demeanor, And we're.

1495
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 11: So professional, Tracy, I would have never guessed you know

1496
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 11: what it's You were much more professional than the drive

1497
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 11: that we just saw by Michigan as they go into

1498
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 11: the half with a twenty one to ten lead, leaving just.

1499
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 9: All types of opportunities. All right, I'm gonna go get

1500
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 9: into the rest of college football. Utah and Kansas State

1501
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 9: in a war right now. Twenty one apiece, the twelfth

1502
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 9: ranked that Utah, are you trying to hang in there?

1503
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 9: Forty on far four minutes and forty five seconds left

1504
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 9: in the first half. Two lane up big on Temple,

1505
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 9: thirteen points, twenty to ten at the half.

1506
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 8: I shouldn't have said that's up big. Everywhere else is

1507
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 8: up big.

1508
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 9: Vanderbilt twenty forty three over Kentucky at the half, the

1509
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 9: Notre Dame was up twenty one to nothing before they.

1510
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 8: Touched the ball offensively.

1511
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 9: Today it's now fifty six to nothing with you know,

1512
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 9: just they're still playing.

1513
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 8: So I'll leave it there.

1514
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 5: There should be, there should be, this is under there

1515
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 5: should be.

1516
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 9: This is what happens when I play like the Road

1517
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 9: to Glory road. Jeremiah love Is eight carries, one hundred

1518
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 9: and seventy one yards and three touchdowns.

1519
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 4: I mean he's not in the gary work.

1520
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 3: No, he's on the bench right now taking pictures of him.

1521
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 4: That's good.

1522
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 8: That's a good two week run. He doesn't need to

1523
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 8: be in the game.

1524
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 4: Anyway, right, No, and he shouldn't be, thank God.

1525
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 8: All right?

1526
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 9: And who else won't be playing? Joe Burrow He's not

1527
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 9: playing Sunday against the Patriots. He did practice this week.

1528
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 9: It'll be Flacco getting the start Brown with defense expecting

1529
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 9: Cam Hayward and Darius Slay on Sunday. A Rogers still

1530
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 9: questionable and the feel good story in the NFL. Nate

1531
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 9: Landman this year signed with the Rams for one year,

1532
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 9: one million dollars with no guarantees.

1533
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 8: There's no guarantees he's going to make the team.

1534
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 9: He's been one of the surprises in the NFC, one

1535
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 9: of the best linebackers in the NFC thus far. This year,

1536
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 9: he signed a three year, twenty two and a half

1537
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 9: million dollar contractor with five fifteen and a half million

1538
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 9: dollars guaranteed. You know what, I would love it if

1539
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 9: somebody would multiply my guarantee money by fifteen that'd be awesome.

1540
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 3: Back to you, guys, hope they're listening.

1541
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 4: I know, right, Grace. I love hearing stories like that.

1542
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: It's so fantastic, the redemption stories, the guys that believe

1543
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: in themselves when no one else did. And I can

1544
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 2: think of another guy that we were just talking about

1545
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: that maybe has similar kind of attitude, Daniel Jones of

1546
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts. And to talk more about that, we

1547
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: have Lara Overton, team reporter for the Indianapolis Colts joining

1548
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: us now.

1549
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 12: Hi, Lara, Thank you ladies, so great to talk with you.

1550
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 12: Thanks for having me on this afternoon.

1551
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to talk to you.

1552
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: I feel like I basically just get to see you

1553
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: once a year at the Combine and that's just about it.

1554
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: And that's just not enough, not enough.

1555
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to see you next month though, Monday Night football.

1556
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 12: That's exciting You're coming to Indie when you're getting in

1557
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 12: on Sunday. We'll give you all the recks and anything

1558
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 12: you need.

1559
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 3: Fantastic. I will do that for sure, Lara.

1560
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: One of the biggest surprises this season has been just

1561
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: how incredibly dominant this Colts team has been. You start

1562
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones at quarterback, with all of the things that

1563
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: went down with Anthony Richardson back up this that the

1564
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: other you land with DJ Danny Dimes. What has what

1565
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: happened in Indy that has led to this kind of

1566
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: resurgence for Daniel Jones.

1567
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 12: Well, it's funny because this has been certainly this surprise

1568
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 12: story across the league. But I've talked to guys within

1569
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 12: the locker room, especially over the last month, about the

1570
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 12: fact that this start, this eight and two point to

1571
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 12: the season that they are standing in right now as

1572
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 12: they prepared to go in to Kansas City tomorrow for

1573
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 12: the biggest test so far they've had this season. It's

1574
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 12: not a surprise to any of them. They all saw

1575
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 12: this was possible back when this group started coming together

1576
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 12: during OTAs in the spring and then really came to

1577
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 12: fruition during training camp, the investment in Loui an Arumo

1578
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 12: as a defensive coordinator, and the scene he brought in defensively,

1579
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 12: those guys who were returning your core pieces, you know,

1580
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 12: guys like the Forest Buckner, z Ire Franklin, Kenny Moore.

1581
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 12: And then you go out and you make moves. You

1582
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 12: signed Mooney Ward and you signed camp Nam, and you

1583
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 12: were starting to see the Indianapolis Colts make more big

1584
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 12: swings in the off season and make some of these

1585
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 12: investments that maybe hadn't been quite as characteristic as we've

1586
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 12: seen in the past. So you thought from that standpoint,

1587
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 12: and then you saw true competition at the quarterback position.

1588
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 12: Of course, in previous years you had Anthony going up

1589
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 12: against Gardner Minshew and Joe Flacco. This was a new

1590
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 12: approach offensively in bringing in Daniel Jones, who had certainly

1591
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 12: a chip on his shoulder having exited in New York,

1592
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 12: felt like he was due for redemption, having added another

1593
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 12: level to his game with what he was able to

1594
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 12: gain from Kevin O'Connell in his time in Minnesota, and

1595
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 12: all everyone collemptively felt like that this year was going

1596
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 12: to be different and part of the reason was they

1597
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 12: felt like that the core pieces of these guys who

1598
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 12: have been here for a number of years, which is

1599
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 12: a majority when you think about guys like Qwent Nelson,

1600
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 12: Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman, and then a lot of the

1601
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 12: defensive guys, they fixed felt like, you know, we're running

1602
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 12: out of time at the prime of the careers. We

1603
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 12: have guys who are playing at such high levels and

1604
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 12: we're not making the most of it. We're tired of losing.

1605
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 12: And then you bring in the influence of guys who

1606
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,839
Speaker 12: have won on the biggest stage, a guy like Mooney

1607
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 12: warned mindwarg who.

1608
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 10: Has won a Super Bowl.

1609
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 12: He's been on of course, as Tracy knows, these incredibles

1610
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 12: niners teams, you know with big playoff runs. You have

1611
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:07,480
Speaker 12: guys additionally, you know like Ambinam who were on teams

1612
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 12: in Minnesota who had, you know, a great winning records

1613
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 12: obviously didn't have the deep playoff runs as well. So

1614
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 12: it was a culmination of some continuity that you had

1615
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 12: and guys who were sick and tired of losing, and

1616
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 12: then guys who had won big and you have that influence.

1617
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 12: So it's a great and infusion of both areas, But

1618
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 12: yet again, nothing that's a surprise to anyone in this room,

1619
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 12: because they all felt like that they were put in

1620
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 12: a position to take advantage of what was built this season,

1621
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 12: and it was really intentionally built with the players they added.

1622
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 5: And Laura Lay they added someone pretty major at the

1623
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 5: trade deadline, and Sauce Gardner and two new fans from

1624
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 5: New York that are now now cold stands.

1625
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: But what did that move.

1626
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 5: Kind of say to the room, because that was a

1627
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 5: big trade for them to make, What did it say

1628
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 5: to the team in terms of it.

1629
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 3: We are all in here and we believe in you guys.

1630
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 12: That's exactly what it says if you don't make a

1631
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 12: move mid season for a player of caliber unless you're

1632
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 12: ready to put this team in a position to do

1633
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 12: something special. Right now, you're capitalizing on the start that

1634
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 12: they have already had, and then you're adding a piece

1635
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 12: that's going to allow you to win big games and

1636
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 12: win the type of games that it's going to take

1637
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 12: to put you in a position to win the division

1638
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 12: for the first time since twenty fourteen, and you know,

1639
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 12: get back to the playoffs for the first time since

1640
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 12: twenty twenty. So it resonated where this entire team. It

1641
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 12: infused confidence in them in what ownership and what the

1642
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 12: front office saw and what they'd done so far, and

1643
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 12: then what they were willing to do to give them

1644
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 12: additional pieces to take this team to another level. And

1645
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 12: I was talking to one of the secondary coaches coming

1646
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 12: out of the game in Berlin, and he said, he

1647
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 12: has already impacted and begun to transform our room, not

1648
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 12: just since his play on the field, but with what

1649
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,879
Speaker 12: he brings in and what he is going to allow

1650
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 12: us to do as a defense.

1651
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you a little bit more, Lara,

1652
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 2: to about another influence that kind of took this year.

1653
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: And so Jim Rsay, the Colt's owner, passes away, and

1654
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: he had essentially been preparing his daughters to take over

1655
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: this team and to run this organization. And we see

1656
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: Carly Ersa Gordon on the sideline, she's very involved. And

1657
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 2: what kind of changes have they made, what kind of influence,

1658
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: What has their influence these girls, these women made on

1659
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 2: this organization. Because I can't think that it's entirely a

1660
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 2: coincidence that this organization is firing on some of these

1661
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: unprecedented cylinders where maybe these these aren't moves and trades

1662
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: and things that they would have made otherwise when they

1663
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 2: do have kind of new life. As far as who's

1664
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 2: running this organization, well, I.

1665
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 12: Think to what you're saying, kind of fruition. This year

1666
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 12: is the culmination of the many years that Carly, Kaylin,

1667
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 12: and Casey have all put in behind the scenes that

1668
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 12: now they are at the forefront of leading the ownership

1669
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 12: or of leading ownership as the you know leaders and

1670
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 12: the you know, the pre the owners themselves you know,

1671
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 12: without their dad now going into this twenty twenty five season.

1672
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 12: And Carly is one of the things that she has

1673
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 12: always done is she has immersed herself in this football team.

1674
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 12: Her being on the sidelines, being on a headset, being

1675
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 12: president every practice, being president in meetings. These are things

1676
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 12: that she has done to prepare herself to be in

1677
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 12: the position when she is that owner who it's the

1678
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 12: final sign off on making a trade for soft Gardner,

1679
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 12: or it's making these bigger swings that she is prepared

1680
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 12: and she's in a position that she has done the

1681
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 12: work to make those big decisions. So I think that

1682
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 12: you're seeing that you're seeing the fact that all of

1683
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 12: the things that she has intentionally done. Yes, certainly, Jim

1684
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 12: Orsey prepared his daughters and provided them, you know, the

1685
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 12: opportunity opened all of the doors to where you know,

1686
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 12: they had the opportunity to be involved within the organization

1687
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 12: at a very young age and took advantage of it

1688
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 12: by not just working on the football side. Each of

1689
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 12: them spent time all over the working in marketing, working

1690
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 12: and ticketing, you know, working in the football side, every

1691
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,480
Speaker 12: single facet. They are hands on and involved. And so

1692
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 12: that's why when there's a move that's going to be made,

1693
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 12: or there's those tough decisions, or you have a team

1694
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 12: that you need to buy in and capitalize on what

1695
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 12: they've been in a position to do, Carly is not

1696
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 12: only equipped, she also has all of the respect and

1697
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 12: the notoriety of every single person in that building. She's

1698
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 12: not making, you know, decisions based on you.

1699
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 10: Know, she's not just.

1700
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 12: Not doing the research, not putting the work in to

1701
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 12: make decisions and making these without being informed and incredibly thorough.

1702
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 12: Carly is one of the most diligent, intentional people in

1703
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 12: every way that she operates and how she approaches her

1704
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 12: work as a leader of the organization, and you see

1705
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 12: it with not just how collectively when she's working with

1706
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 12: Shane or Chris on some of these major decisions, but

1707
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,879
Speaker 12: it's how the players respond to her. All the players

1708
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 12: respond when she's down there on the sideline, how they're

1709
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 12: celebrating with her in the locker room. And it's because

1710
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 12: she's not just showing up in the biggest moments. She's

1711
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 12: showing up day in and day in out, doing the

1712
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 12: things the right way, asking tough questions. And you think back,

1713
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 12: you look at the quote that they was put out

1714
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 12: from Chris Ballard when he asked Carly about, you know,

1715
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 12: making this move and they were discussing that move, and

1716
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 12: she said, do you want to band aid it or

1717
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 12: do you want to fix it long term? These are

1718
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 12: the type of statements and the type of approach that

1719
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 12: she is coming from that has this team sitting exactly

1720
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 12: where it is right now. And they're not just going

1721
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 12: to be a conversation right now, as you know, we're

1722
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 12: going into week twelve, but their team that's going to

1723
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 12: make sure that they're part of the conversation in December

1724
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 12: and January. Because Carly is she's not afraid to be bold,

1725
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 12: and the reason she's not afraid to be bold is.

1726
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 12: She doesn't just want to win games. She wants to

1727
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 12: build great franchises and wants this team to be set

1728
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 12: for sustainable success and be a team that's in contention.

1729
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 2: Put a woman in charge. Man, Thank you so much, Laura.

1730
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 2: I really appreciate getting to talk to you this yeah,

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01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 2: and taking your time, taking time out of your Saturday.

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 4: So thank you so much. Have so much fun at

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01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 4: the game tomorrow, and we will talk to you later.

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01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 4: Thanks again.

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 12: I'd have to have more reasons to talk to you

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01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 12: guys soon, and Tracy's we'll catch up in Indian in a

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01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 12: couple of weeks.

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01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 3: Yep, can't wait.

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01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: All right, you guys, we have just one more segment

1740
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 2: left after this. You're listening to Fox Football Saturday.

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01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 4: Okay. So, for as much as.

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01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 2: Everybody might have gotten the impression that I am a

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 2: huge classic rock slash alternative rock slash just rock person,

1744
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: this is like a visceral reaction I early two thousands

1745
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: of rapp and hip hop is where my heart truly lies.

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01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 2: So thanks for that, guys. I'm Carmen Batally. I have

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01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: Tracy Saylor with me. That was Chris Burfett. I have

1748
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: to imagine that was his decision. Our technical producer, we

1749
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 2: have bo Benson Martin Wise in the update booth. Thank

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01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 2: you guys so much for all you do for helping

1751
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 2: us put on this show. Coming up in about ten minutes,

1752
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna have Tweedleddan tweetled dumb bucking fits. I can

1753
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 2: say that because they're two very dear friends of mine

1754
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: and they do tremendous work. They're fantastic, love their show.

1755
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 2: I've known them, I've known Buck especially for a very

1756
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 2: long time, and I can't get out of here without

1757
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 2: giving him a little bit of flack. But stay tuned

1758
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 2: for that. Tracy have just one segment left. I know

1759
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 2: it's kind of a silly one too, it is, but

1760
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: I really we really enjoyed talking to Lara over ten.

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01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 2: I talked to her again. Forever I only talked to

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01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 2: her once year. I talked to her when we go

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01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 2: down to the combine for Indianapolis because she's there and

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01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 2: she's fantastic. But I love hearing about everything the Colts

1765
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 2: are doing, and I love hearing just about you know,

1766
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 2: the Ursay family and the Ursay sisters who have just

1767
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 2: taken control of this franchise and done so many good

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01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 2: things with it.

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01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 4: Like I said, put a woman in charge. See what happens.

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01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 3: Usually things go well.

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01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 4: Just saying I'm just saying.

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01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: We might be a little bussed, but that's okay, all right,

1773
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 2: let's get to it. The lol moment of the week,

1774
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: a story that made you laugh, because I am of

1775
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 2: the belief that everybody should laugh a little bit more.

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01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 8: Lord knows we.

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01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 4: All need it.

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01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 2: I will start and comes out of Fox twenty nine

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01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: in Philly. They went to an elementary school. I'm not

1780
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: sure which one, but it is on their Twitter if

1781
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 2: you want to go look at it. And they went

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01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: to this elementary school and it's you know, it's Dallas week.

1783
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 2: They these little elementary school kids. They had these like

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01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 2: you know, like the boxing bags set up like the

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01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: free standing ones, and they put pictures of Cowboys players

1786
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 2: up on the bags and gave the kids boxing gloves

1787
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: and had them just punching these bags with Dallas Cowboy

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01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:02,919
Speaker 2: players faces. Just like, you don't get to a rivalry

1789
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: like that, you don't get to a fan base like

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01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: the Eagles have without starting. I'm really young and as

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01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: someone who my entire my dad is from Philadelphia, my

1792
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: entire family still kind of lives in the Tri State

1793
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 2: area on that side, and so I grew up actually

1794
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: on my first jersey was an Eagles jersey, but I

1795
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 2: grew up in Chicago, so it was kind of hard.

1796
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 2: And I grew up at a time when he didn't

1797
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 2: have Sunday ticket, so I couldn't watch the Eagles. So

1798
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: I became a Bears fan. But that fan base is

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01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: something I'm tremendously familiar with, and it does it really

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01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 2: starts that early. Like my little nephews are just like,

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01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they're all into the Eagles and they have

1802
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 2: been since. Like they could talk, like they could do

1803
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: the Eagles chant when they were like two years old.

1804
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: It's just it's a tremendous Like whatever you think of

1805
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: the Eagles and the Eagles and Eagles fans, like, you

1806
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: have to respect the passion they have for their teams.

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01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 5: You absolutely have to respect the passion they have for

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01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 5: the team. And mine is a quick on a on

1809
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 5: a young fan of the Phoenix Sons who went viral

1810
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 5: on eating popcorn like bigger than he was, and he

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01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 5: noticed he was on the Jembo tran and he smiled

1812
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 5: and waved.

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01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 3: Well, fast forward, he's.

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01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 5: Back at the game last night and they put him

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01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 5: back on the JumboTron. He's three years old. Okay, all prefaces.

1816
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 5: He's three years old. His name is Sterling. But he

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01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 5: noticed he was on the JumboTron. He smiled, He ate

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01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 5: his popcorn, and then he winked.

1819
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, just killed me. He winked.

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01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 5: It was absolutely, absolutely amazing and everybody should go look

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01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 5: it up.

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01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 3: It was fantastic.

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01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I love stuff like that when you're just like,

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01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 2: you're three.

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01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 4: Where did you learn that?

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01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 3: Where did you learn to wink at your fans?

1827
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 2: Wink at your fans or like, you know, the gift

1828
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 2: of the little kid at the Yankee game, like taking

1829
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 2: off his hat for yes, but like their respect gifts.

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01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: Like I'm just like where like y'all are y'all your

1831
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 2: parents are doing it right and we you were doing

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01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: it right today, Tracy. I loved this was a great time.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. You're listening to Fox Football Saturday.