1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: So I will be the master of ceremonies for an 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: upcoming gala for the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: You probably know. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Gianno Caldwell by now, you see him on Fox News. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: But he lost his little brother, Christian to gun violence 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: in Chicago. He found out on June twenty fourth, twenty 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: twenty two, and has been fighting for justice ever since then, 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: which is why he started the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety. 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Like many families around the country, he has still not 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: found justice. Unfortunately, his little brother was killed because of 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: the policies of the left, because of their soft on 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: crime policies that we saw under the Biden administration or 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: the Obama administration, embraced by so many left wing politicians 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: in cities across America. 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: So we'll talk to him about that. We'll talk to 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: him about. 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: His little brother Christian, why he has been on this fight, 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: why he's been on this journey, and also what we've 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: seen already from the Trump administration. I mean, one of 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: the first actions from President Trump was an executive order 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: titled Restoring the Death Penalty and Protecting Public Safety. We've 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: already seen the determination of this administration and enforcing immigration policies, 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: So will that have a downstream effect on the rest 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: of the country in some of these cities where we've 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: seen soft on crime. 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: Also, should more Republicans. 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: Follow President Trump's example about going into the inner cities 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: and trying to win over these voters, going into blue cities, 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: going into blue states. 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Giano. 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: About that as well, and what it was like growing 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: up in the South side of Chicago. 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: Why was he able to escape that when so many 34 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: people are unable to. Of course you know him. 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: Also, he's the author of Taken for Granted, where he 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: talks about his life story and why he's been able 37 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: to become the success that he has become. So we'll 38 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: get into all of that and more with one of 39 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: my closest friends. He is truly one of my best friends. 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: I love him like a brother. So we'll get into 41 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: that bigger discussion on all of these important issues. 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for Giana Caldwell. 43 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: Well, Gianno Caldwell, it's so nice to have you on 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: my podcast. 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 4: My friend, Well, I'm so excited to be invited. 46 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 5: I know it took six years and you're very famous, 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 5: and you hit your first one with Donald Trump. So 48 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 5: you know, I'm glad you can finally get around to me. 49 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: Shut up. 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: So for the folks at home, Gianno and I have 51 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: been very close friends. For I guess yours now, I 52 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: don't even Yeah. 53 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been my bestie and you've been there with 54 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 5: me through a lot of ups and downs, and I've 55 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 5: been there with you, and I'm just so exceptionally grateful 56 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: that God brought us together. 57 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: I really am. 58 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: H You're one of my best friends. We really have 59 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: been through a lot together. A lot of fun times too. Yeah, 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: awesome going out, but we don't get into that. But 61 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm so excited and just so proud of you because 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: I will be the MC at your upcomingy gala for 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: the Calbell Institute of Public Safety, and it is already 64 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: turning out to be such a big event. I'm just 65 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: so proud of you because you started this organization after 66 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: you lost your little brother Christian to gun violence in Chicago. 67 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of people take tragic things 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: and you know it sets them back right and they 69 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: can't find their footing. And you know that's understandable, right, 70 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: because losing a brother is just so hard. And I 71 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: know I've seen you go through this, but you've really 72 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: used this as a motivating force in your life for 73 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: good and to try to make a difference and to 74 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: try to prevent other people like Christian from being killed 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: and being murdered. And so I'm just so proud of 76 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: you for doing that, and you know, having the determination 77 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: and the strength to turn something so negative into a positive. 78 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: So I'm just so proud of you. 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Lisa. 80 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 5: And you know I got to tell you I started 81 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 5: at the call Well Institute for Public Safety, and people 82 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 5: can go to Calboll Institute dot or to learn more. 83 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 5: But I started it because I honestly felt like I 84 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 5: had no choice. You and I were on television. We 85 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 5: work at Fox News Channel. We started off as colleagues there. 86 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 5: But what I came to realize quite quickly after this 87 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 5: happened to my brother is the source of a lot 88 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 5: of the crime that's happening in our country, the enabling 89 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 5: of it, I should say, and it comes from a 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 5: person named George Soros. And we know many of the 91 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 5: listeners here, I know they know all about George so Ros. 92 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 4: They heard about him and the. 93 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 5: Money he's pumped into these district attorney races across the 94 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 5: country and for one reason I believe, and that's to 95 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 5: destroy America from within. And it's been a plan that 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 5: has been quite successful. We saw what happened in Chicago 97 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 5: with Ken Fox, We saw what happened in Los Angeles 98 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 5: with George Cascombe. We see what's happening in New York 99 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: with Alvin Bragg, we see what's going on in Philadelphia 100 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 5: with Larry Krausner, and many other places that don't have 101 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 5: as big of a name of the district attorney, but 102 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 5: the impact is just is great, and we had to 103 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 5: do something about it. 104 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: We have to do something about it. 105 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 5: And I started at the call Well Institute for Public 106 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 5: Safety just for that, to make sure these individuals are 107 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 5: ran out of office. So that's that's the admission of 108 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 5: our institute. 109 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: What do you think motivates people like Sorows to show 110 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: that kind of chaos. 111 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 5: The only thing, the only conclusion I can draw from 112 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 5: it is hatred. He hates the United States of America, 113 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 5: is my personal opinion. I can't imagine someone who would say, Okay, 114 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: let me fund this individual, who would let out somebody 115 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 5: who just murdered someone's niece or nephew or mother or father, 116 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 5: or sister or brother. 117 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 4: Let me let me finance a race for an individual 118 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: like that. 119 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 5: You cannot love people, you cannot love the country. 120 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: You cannot love law and order if you're going to 121 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: do something like that. 122 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 5: And it's unfortunate that so many people took debate under 123 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: the ban of criminal justice reform and the BLN movement, 124 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 5: a lot of people took that bait, not knowing that 125 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 5: we were really disenfranchising our own citizens. People are dying 126 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 5: or have died at alarming rates under the guise of 127 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 5: Joe Biden and George sore. So it is a task 128 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 5: that is a major one, but it is one that 129 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 5: it certainly has helped me as I've suffered through the 130 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 5: loss of the tragic loss of my brother, is one 131 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 5: in which it's at least given me a little bit 132 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 5: a piece that I know that his legacy, even though 133 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: he was an innocent teenager when he was murdered, his 134 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: legacy will mean something. And that's what I'm honored to do. 135 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 5: I'm honored to serve in this role for that reason. 136 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: And he was eighteen. 137 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: I'll never forget when he told me, I'll never forget 138 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: seeing him in the casket in Chicago you know, nothing 139 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: prepares you to see an eighteen year old in the 140 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: casket and to see the pain your eyes and see 141 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: the pan as you went through, just the suffering of 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: losing him. 143 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: You know, tell us, tell us about Christian. 144 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 5: Christian unfortunately never knew his dad, so as his older brother, 145 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 5: I was the individual that stood in that role for him. 146 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: I would take them the museums him and you know, 147 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: I got multiple other brothers who. 148 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 5: I grew up with nine siblings or nine of us 149 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 5: in total, two sisters, the rest of us, you know, boys. 150 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 5: So I was the one that would take my youngest 151 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 5: siblings to places, museums, take them the nice places to eat. 152 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: Even I remember when Christian called me. I was, you know, 153 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 5: flying him and my other little brother, Matthew, out to 154 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 5: Los Angeles, which is where I was living at the time, 155 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 5: and he begged me. 156 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 4: He said, I want to go on a college tour. 157 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 5: I want to go to UCLA, I want to go 158 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 5: look at some colleges. He was just sixteen years old 159 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: at that time, but he really wanted it. And I'm like, man, 160 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 5: we got to figure it out. Let me put it together. 161 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 5: But I was so like, really thankful that he was 162 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 5: considering those kind of options as such. 163 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: You know, a young age sixteen. 164 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 5: How many kids saying I want to go on a 165 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 5: college tour at sixteen, But that's what he wanted. So 166 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 5: he was an individual that made people laugh all the time. 167 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 5: He was very much into sports, and he was pretty 168 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: good at basketball because he would always play against the 169 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 5: older kids versus the ones that are his age, so he, 170 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 5: you know, built those kind of relationships. 171 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: And he was a loving kid. 172 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 5: He loved my grandmother, by our family, and you know, 173 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 5: I'm just just even talking about it, it's still very 174 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 5: difficult for me. Even though it's been two years since 175 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 5: then June twenty four, twenty twenty two, we're going on 176 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 5: the three years here soon. So it's it's it is 177 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,359 Speaker 5: something that I got to say that I'm unfortunately experienced. 178 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: But my hope is that we're going to save lives 179 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 5: because of it. 180 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: And we know that he was not the intended target 181 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: of the shooting. I know it's been frustrating for you 182 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: to try to find justice. Why do you think it's 183 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: been so hard for the police to do their job 184 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: and to find his killer? And I imagine there are 185 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: a lot of families in places like Chicago who are 186 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: going through the same thing and that same frustration of 187 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: not getting the justice that they deserve. 188 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 5: You're absolutely right, there are a tremendous amount of families 189 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 5: that are having that same experience. 190 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: And this happened on a Friday morning. 191 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 5: And when I talked to the detective on the case 192 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: two days later that Sunday, I said to him, I 193 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 5: know that it's very early in an investigation, but do 194 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 5: you have any leads? And then he began to tell 195 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 5: me about all the other cases that came in since then, 196 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 5: and I felt like it was a little bit of 197 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: a blowout. He said, oh, we got all these new 198 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 5: cases in since then, and you know, he just got. 199 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: Off the phone with me. 200 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 5: And it wasn't until he saw me on television and 201 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 5: read about it in the news that he said, oh, yeah, yeah, 202 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 5: we're on it. 203 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: We're on top of it. 204 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 5: We saw you on with Sean Hannity, we saw you 205 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: on Fox and Friends, we saw you on Fox thirty two, 206 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 5: a local Fox affiliate in Chicago. 207 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: And I said, well, I hope that we're going to 208 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: be able to solve this. 209 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 5: So I felt good in the fact that maybe a 210 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 5: little notoriety me working at Fox with push this propelled 211 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 5: this case forward. We get it solved to get justice 212 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 5: from my family, but that wasn't the case. The detective 213 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 5: dropped off multiple times. And you know me, I love 214 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 5: the police, I support the police. I even was the 215 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 5: spokesperson for a police organization. But police officers are overwhelmed 216 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 5: in Chicago, and some don't want to do the job 217 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 5: anymore because they get demonized from the leadership, the mayor 218 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 5: and other folks within leadership there. 219 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: So people don't want to do the jobs there. 220 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 5: But it's unfortunate that victims are paying the price for 221 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 5: the politics, if you will, in Chicago, and that goes 222 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: for the progressives that run to the council, the mayor, 223 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: the county prosecuted there under Kim Fox. They have a 224 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 5: new prosecutor who was supposed to be a bit more 225 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 5: tough on crime. But this is unfortunate that people are 226 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 5: paying that price. And that's not just going on in Chicago, 227 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: is going in many places, going on in many places 228 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 5: across the country. 229 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Well, why do you think so many of our cities 230 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: you have such high homicide in crime rates. 231 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: Well, we've seen it. 232 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 5: We've seen it in Chicago for a number of years, 233 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 5: we've seen the soft on crime policies. We've seen it 234 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 5: with Lori liifeat before Brandon Johnson, where people like Lori 235 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,239 Speaker 5: Liife had created this no chase policy, or police officers 236 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 5: have to call into their supervisors in order to pursue 237 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 5: a suspect on. 238 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: Foot or in car. 239 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 5: They got to get approval, so the suspect's gone at 240 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 5: that point. If you got a call and wait for 241 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 5: someone to answer and maybe even call you back because 242 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 5: they're busy, and other places around the country, we saw 243 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: upticking violent crime after the George Floyd riots. We know 244 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 5: that we know what being BLM cost. We know that 245 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 5: we saw a crazy upticking crime, and we know that 246 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 5: the FBI data many many cities were withholding their data 247 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 5: from the FBI, ensuring that Americans didn't know what the 248 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 5: real picture was when it comes to crime. And if 249 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 5: you remember quite famously Trump and his debate with Kamala Harris, 250 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 5: he was saying, the crime is high, crime is out 251 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 5: of control, and the moderator, I believe that was from 252 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 5: ABC News. 253 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: Said no, it isn't that's not true. That's not true. 254 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 5: And then what happened days later, the FBI sent out 255 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 5: revised data. Crime is actually up, so we know where 256 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 5: it came from. In many of these places, it started 257 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 5: with BLM, and a lot of cities have embraced these policies. 258 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 5: They called them criminal justice reform, when in fact it 259 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 5: was justice for the criminal. And now we're leaving, we're 260 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 5: being left to deal with the results of it. 261 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: Well. 262 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: Also, like a lot of these crime rates, we don't 263 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: even know how accurate there are. If police aren't arresting 264 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: people right like that, it's another thing. 265 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, exactly right, exactly right, And that's another 266 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: you know, crime victims a lot of times if you 267 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 5: live in these very poor crime written areas and if 268 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 5: police are slow to respond to you, you may not 269 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 5: even call you just say forget about it. And just 270 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 5: to your point, which is an excellent one, the rest 271 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 5: rates have gone down in many of these cities. The 272 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 5: conviction rates are really terrible, especially with George Soros funded prosecutors, 273 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 5: because they let so many folks out. 274 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: They dropped so many cases. 275 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 5: I remember early in Kim Fox's term and it was 276 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 5: reported that I think about sixty seventy thousand cases she dropped, 277 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: including rape and murder. Like this is stuff that you 278 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: just can't make up. So how can you expect people 279 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 5: to have any hope in a system that's not protecting them? 280 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 5: And like I mentioned before, progressives and these major cities 281 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 5: are causing that erosion of trust between communities and police 282 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 5: and the. 283 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: Ability that have crime those held accountable. 284 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: You know, why do you think these people keep getting 285 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: re elected or you know, elected and re elected Because 286 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: it's like you would think, and you know, I used 287 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: to live in New York City and I look at 288 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: LA you look at you would think people would be like, Okay, 289 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm tired of this crime. You know, I'm 290 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: tired of the high taxes. I'm hired, I'm tired of 291 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: things not working. Yet they keep electing left wing politicians. 292 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: Why do you think that is? 293 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I think I think Democrats have been very 294 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: skillful in making Republicans the boogeyman. Now you noticed that 295 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 5: no matter who the Republican is, they're just a racist. 296 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: That's what they call them. 297 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 5: Immediately that that particular dog was so if you will, 298 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 5: because now for folks like Mitt Romney and others who 299 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 5: kind of embraced the left, they stop calling him that 300 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 5: when they can, When when he can serve a purpose 301 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: for them, and that's that's pretty much how it goes. 302 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 5: So when you see these a lot of these different cities, 303 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 5: the Democrats they are telling them, oh, this policy is 304 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 5: good for a calls, it's good for black folks, when 305 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 5: most of the time that is absolutely not true. It's 306 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 5: a complete lie. They say it's good for this group, 307 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 5: it's good for that group. Republicans are bad, they're racist, 308 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 5: So why even you know, support them or even listen 309 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 5: to them. But I honestly believe, Lisa, that those times 310 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 5: are changing. I really believe that. And I think Donald 311 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 5: Trump's decisive win and his messaging to communities all over black, white, 312 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 5: Hispanic agent, I want to work with you, the things 313 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 5: that you've said, the policies he's passed in his first term, 314 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: I think we're seeing a turning of the tie with that. 315 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: It's little by little. 316 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 5: I think, you know, we saw it in twenty sixteen 317 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 5: a little bit, we saw it more in twenty twenty, 318 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 5: and then we saw it again in this most recent election. 319 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 5: If it's people like Donald Trump leading the charge, I 320 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 5: think we're breaking the backs of the Democratic Party. 321 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: I really do you know, I guess have you had 322 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: I imagine you've had a lot of families and you know, 323 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: people reach out to you with sort of like a 324 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: similar experience and having lost a loved one. 325 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, tell me a little bit about that and 326 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: what has the response been like. As you you know, 327 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: fight for justice and also fight for some of these 328 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: changes in law. 329 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 4: You know, it's been a quite a humbling experience, to. 330 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 5: Be honest with you, you know, fighting for these families. 331 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 5: And then the support that I received when we launched 332 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 5: the Callwell Institute for Public Safety at Callwell Institute dot org. 333 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 5: I had on board people like Pam Bondi, who serves 334 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 5: on our advisory board, who's been with us. I was 335 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 5: with her in the Oval office when she was sworn in. 336 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 5: People like doctor Drew Pinsky on mental health, who's been 337 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 5: incredibly helpful with me and my personal journey. But of 338 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 5: course for other folks as well, many other people who've 339 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 5: reached out to me sharing experiences that they've had, what 340 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 5: they've done, and I unfortunately had to have, you know, 341 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 5: quite similar experiences, whether it be navigating the police department, 342 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 5: the judicial system, or even when we got Congress from 343 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: Burgess On who sits on our board, even reaching out 344 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 5: to him to say, hey, I'm looking to get the 345 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 5: FBI involved and I want to get a bipartisan letter. 346 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 5: And then we were able to do that after I 347 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 5: lobbied multiple committee chairmen in Congress to get that done, 348 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 5: and then they finally opened up and called me. And 349 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 5: mind you, I called the FBI multiple times, they never 350 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 5: called me back. 351 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 4: I got on television asking the FBI to call me. 352 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 4: They never called me back. 353 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 5: I had former FBI agents call current ones in the 354 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 5: Chicago Field office. 355 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: They never called me back. 356 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 5: And then when we pulled the levers of Congress, finally 357 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 5: I got a call from the Specialation in charge of 358 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 5: the Chicago Field Office. But no family should have to 359 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 5: go through that. No families should have to lobby Congress 360 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 5: to try to get help, or have to go on 361 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 5: television and do all these different things. 362 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 4: But that's what we are as a country unfortunately. 363 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 5: So as we share information, as I talk to numerous 364 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 5: families about their losses and how I can be supportive 365 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 5: from an organizational standpoint or even a personal one. It's 366 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 5: been a journey, and it's only a journey that I 367 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: can see expanding and hopefully from the work we're doing 368 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 5: at the Carbell Institute for Public Safety is going to 369 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 5: ensure that justice is served for. 370 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 4: So many people, and that's why it's so important. 371 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 5: Elections have consequences, and we know that that terminology very well, Lisa, 372 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 5: and hopefully these next upcoming elections in New York and 373 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 5: other places like Philadelphia, those folks that are currently in 374 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 5: office werea can have it through their policymaking or lack 375 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 5: of enforcement. Hopefully those the tie will turn and continue 376 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 5: to change in the better men of families all over 377 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 5: the country. 378 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: We've got more with Gianno Caldwell, but first, after more 379 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: than a year of war, terror and pain in Israel, 380 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: there's still a great demand for basic humanitarian aid. Their 381 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: National Fellowship of Christians and Jews is support it and 382 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: continues to support those in the Holy Land still facing 383 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: the lingering horrors of war and those who are in 384 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: desperate need right now. 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Or call eight 394 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: a eight fur a eight IFCJ that's eight eight eight 395 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: four a eight IFCJ eight eight eight four a eight 396 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: four three two five. 397 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: You know, we're warred, is saying. 398 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: This administration and you know, like it did during its 399 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: first term, President Trump taking action on tough on crime. 400 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: You know, he issued an executive order right after taking 401 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: office to restore the death penalty and to protect public safety, 402 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 1: you know, talking about the importance of capital punishment as 403 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: a deterrent. 404 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: Noting that, you know. 405 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: The moratorium on federal executions that the Buyo administration did, 406 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: or the fact that he commuted sentences of you know, 407 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: thirty seven of forty of the most vile and statistic rapists, 408 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: child molesters, and murderous murderers on federal death row. We've 409 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: also seen a tough on crime stance from an immigration standpoint. 410 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: Already as well. Do you think that will have. 411 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: A downstream impact on you know, you had mentioned some 412 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: of these local elections that are coming up, like in 413 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: New York City. Do you think that'll have a downstream 414 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: effect on the rest of the country. 415 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, it has to. 416 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 5: And to that point, like even talking about the border, 417 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 5: we see the border cross the numbers went down. 418 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 4: What was it like ninety percent or something like that. 419 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, it was like ninety three for the Gadawez. Yeah, 420 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: pretty remarkable. Like all read hits like where were you 421 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: in the last four years? 422 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 5: He was almost like a week or two before that. 423 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 5: Those again turn the Todd It's just like terrorists. Terrorists 424 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 5: didn't fear Joe Biden, but they certainly fear President Donald Trump. 425 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 5: Like without question, criminals fear Donald Trump. They know this 426 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 5: is a law and order president. And when you consider 427 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 5: even UH considerations with the border. We know that Finnel 428 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 5: comes across, We know that mini terrorists, and he also 429 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 5: labeled the cartels or a terrorist organization, so we we 430 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 5: recognized that a lot of crime and violence comes from 431 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 5: across the border, Findel starting in China, UH being transported 432 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 5: through Mexico. 433 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: So that's going to have an impact. 434 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 5: The fact that people like Pam Bondi, my friend who 435 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 5: I really appreciate, who's you know, served us quite well 436 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 5: at the Cabal Institute of Public Safety. She I was 437 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 5: in the office with her. After she got sworn in, 438 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 5: we went over to the DJ where I saw her 439 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 5: sign numerous executive orders withdrawing funding from sanctuary cities. So 440 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 5: sanctuary cities, obviously they're not following federal law, so why 441 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 5: would they have federal funding? 442 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: And places who aren't just enforcing their laws. 443 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 5: These are necessary tools to force many of these politicians 444 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 5: to get on board and help save lives. 445 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 4: It shouldn't be that. 446 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 5: Hard, honestly, for politicians, these Democrats. 447 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 4: To say, look, I'm going to do what's right. 448 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 5: Twenty plus years ago, this used to be a no 449 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 5: brainer for both parties. It was a no brainer. It 450 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 5: wouldn't be that oh, because I'm for law and order, 451 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 5: then I must be a Republican and if I'm not, 452 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: then I'm a Democrat. It used to be all parties 453 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 5: supported law and order. All parties said that our immigration 454 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 5: systems shouldn't be abused and people should come through the 455 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 5: front door. That was the case, But the Democratic Party 456 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 5: today has become extraordinarily extreme. They're very extreme, and the 457 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 5: unfortunate reality for the American people is lives being lost 458 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 5: as a result of it. 459 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: And that's unfortunate and it must come to an. 460 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: End, you know. 461 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that President Trump 462 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: did so well, and I think it's a good lesson 463 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: for the Republican Party is like going into some of 464 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: these cities and trying to win over these voters, and 465 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: going into blue states and trying to win over blue 466 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: state voters and really sending the message that every American 467 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: matters and every vote counts, and we care, you know, 468 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: as a political party. 469 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 2: And to that vein, you know, what was it like 470 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: growing up in the South side of Chicago? 471 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: So two respond to that first place. Yeah, I'll tell 472 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 4: you about Chicago. One. 473 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 5: I've been calling for the Republican Party to do this 474 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 5: for years. I've been a Republican for two decades plus. 475 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 5: No one in my family was a Republican. But I 476 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 5: found out this year that my little brother Matthew, who's 477 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 5: actually you know, he's someone who's going to be spending 478 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 5: a whole lot more time with me and Miami. He 479 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 5: vo for Trump and he called me so excitedly to say, Hey, 480 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 5: I just wanted you to know I voted for Donald Trump, 481 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 5: and I told all of my friends to vote for 482 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 5: him too. No, seriously, So, Donald Trump is a cultural figure. 483 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 5: He's someone that's been beloved I mean since he hit 484 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 5: the scene in what the seventies, eighties or even before that. 485 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: He's someone that celebrities wanted to attach themselves to. 486 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: But the culture never really forgot him. 487 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 5: I know there were certain people who said negative things 488 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: about him, but there was still a respect. 489 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 4: Within the culture. And I'm talking about this culture. 490 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 5: Of influenced hip hop and all these other things. People 491 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 5: still liked them and respected him. They may not have 492 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 5: liked that he was a Republican, but I can assure 493 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 5: you that if he ran as a Democrat, the Democrats 494 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 5: would have celebrated him and supported him. I think that 495 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 5: Republicans should take great note to what Donald Trump has 496 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 5: been doing, and we should continue that work because we 497 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 5: need to expand our party one hundred percent. We need 498 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 5: to ensure that Democrats no longer get a foothold in 499 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 5: our inner cities. We need to ensure that law and 500 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 5: order is the rule of the day, safety and security, 501 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 5: and prosperity for every American citizen. Those are things that 502 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 5: we need to focus on. So I'm thankful for that, 503 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 5: and I think I'm thankful that he has blazed the 504 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 5: trail to the Republican Party to see that these things 505 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 5: actually work. Now, what happened with me growing up in Chicago? 506 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 5: I grew up extremely poor. Lights and guests and water 507 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 5: off at the same time on occasion. Mom and dad 508 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: were never married, but I was blessed to see my 509 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 5: dad every weekend. He would take me to my grandparents' 510 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 5: house on the South Side of Chicago, which is where 511 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 5: I lived on the South Side, and my grandfather we 512 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 5: would do catfish and spaghetti on Fridays TGIF Fridays. If 513 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: you remember those Family Matters and all those shows from 514 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 5: the ABC line up, good wholesome, non woke. 515 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: Nowadays, you can't even let. 516 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: Your kids watch this stuff anymore. You gotta go to then. 517 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: Now you can't even watch it Disney now, Yeah, you never. 518 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 5: Know what they may show, like I gotta watch it today, 519 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 5: and you can watch it. 520 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: I need to. Yeah, it's okay for you. 521 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: It's probably not even good for us. 522 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, as I'm telling you. 523 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: I watched this stuff and then I see one of 524 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 5: those like really crazy weird. 525 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: Things and I just turn it off. I stopped watching it. 526 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: You know, it's just it's just too much. It's way 527 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: too much. 528 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 5: But my grandfather's on Saturdays would wake me up very 529 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 5: early in the morning, seven am and he would, you know, 530 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 5: get me prep to go to work with him, small 531 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 5: business owner plumbing construction, and he would pay me ten 532 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 5: dollars a day. 533 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 4: To hold the flash like hand tools. 534 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 5: And it taught me personal responsibility at such a young age. 535 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 5: I started doing this at seven eight years old, going 536 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 5: to job sites with him, and he would want me 537 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: to see how he earned money. He would also want 538 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 5: me to see when he has this big wile to cash. Okay, 539 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 5: we go from a job site, then we go to 540 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 5: the bank cash to check and you get the money. 541 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 5: This is how it works. So it gave me a 542 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 5: desire to want to work. And when I got a 543 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 5: little older, fourteen years old during the summers, I would 544 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 5: stay with him during the summers and work and he 545 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 5: would charge me room and board and I would say, Granddad, 546 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 5: you have all this money, why am I paying room 547 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 5: and board? And he said, you'll understand when you get older, 548 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: and sure enough, it taught me personal responsibility. It taught 549 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 5: me to want to work, It taught me to want 550 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 5: to pay bills. It taught me to want to have 551 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 5: a future that was only led by two things, God 552 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 5: and myself. And I'm exceptionally grateful for that. And to 553 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 5: that point that you asked, you know, my life in Chicago, 554 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 5: and you know, kind of how did I get to 555 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: the place of where I am today is because of 556 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 5: my grandfather. Largely he taught me about politics when I 557 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 5: was fourteen, and that encouraged me to go volunteer for 558 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 5: my local aldermen every day after school like it was 559 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 5: a job. Then at sixteen, I'm sorry if I'm in 560 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 5: long winded, but so funny. At sixteen I started working 561 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 5: for the federal government part time. At nineteen, I bought 562 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 5: a multi unit apartment building with Alan you family assistance 563 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 5: helper knowledge, and then did so many things after that, 564 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 5: concluding working on the presidential going to DC, starting to 565 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 5: affirm and doing television. So it's you know, it's the 566 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 5: honor of a lifetime that I had that experience with 567 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 5: my grandfather who's still with us, and it is something 568 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 5: that if I'm blessed to ever have children. I will 569 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 5: do the same for my kids, no matter how much 570 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 5: money I have. It has to be I have to 571 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 5: do it the same way. And I really appreciate that 572 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 5: meaningful learning opportunity that served me well for years. 573 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: Well, you'll be a great dit. You know I've told 574 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: you that a billion times. 575 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 4: Do you think that a great? Great mom? Lisa? 576 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that a lot, honestly, thank you. 577 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: Do you think that personal responsibility that you learned is 578 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: why you were able to get out of the South 579 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: side of Chicago? Because you know, as you pointed out, 580 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: you know you don't just do the fox thing. You know, 581 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: you're an author, you started this institute, you're a businessman. 582 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you do so many things behind the scenes, 583 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: and you know just reached a lot of tremendous success 584 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: on your own. Did you think kind of learning that 585 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: lesson early about personal responsibility is why you're able to 586 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: kind of escape poverty and get out and be so successful. 587 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 5: I think that if I can point to any one 588 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 5: or two things, I would say one faith in God, 589 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 5: tremendously helpful pastor, Doctor Bill Winston is my pastor in Chicago, 590 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 5: still to this day. 591 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: I started going there when I was eighteen and. 592 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: He would say, was he the one that I met 593 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: at the funeral? 594 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 5: Yes, that was the pastor yeah, yeah, that's my spiritual father. Yes, absolutely, 595 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 5: and he was the one I would go to that 596 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 5: church and he would say, you know, the government shouldn't 597 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 5: be taking care. 598 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 4: Of you, it should be God taking care of you. 599 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 5: He'll give you ideas, he'll give you meaningful connections, He'll 600 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 5: connect you to resources, those kinds of things. Him and 601 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 5: my grandfather two of the strongest men I know today. 602 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 5: Those individuals had served me so well in my years 603 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 5: growing up, Starting with my grandfather and having that experience 604 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 5: with him and then going to past in Winston's Church 605 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 5: when I was eighteen years old. 606 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 4: That took me to the next level, and that took. 607 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: Me in a belief that was beyond just my human 608 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 5: ability and it went from what I can do just 609 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 5: in myself to what God can do. 610 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: So those are my two pieces there. 611 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: Hi, I love that. 612 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: And do you know where can people go find out 613 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: more about the Caldwell Institute and then also buy tickets 614 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: to the event, So the. 615 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 4: Callwell Institute, please go to our website. 616 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 5: Caldwell Institute dot org and you can also follow me 617 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 5: on Instagram, x, Facebook, TikTok At, Giano Caldwell, Gia, n 618 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 5: N Caldwell, c A L. 619 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 4: D W E L L and Lisa. The tickets have oversold. 620 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: That's so great. 621 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 6: We're over sold, so you know when I still make 622 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 6: donations if they like, but certainly, uh, you know, I'm 623 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 6: excited about being there and I'm excited about having you MC. 624 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 4: We got a great lineup. 625 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 5: We got you, we got John Walsh, we got Congressman 626 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 5: Burgess Owens is going to be there. We got Savannah 627 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 5: Christie who's gonna be there. She's gonna speak. We got 628 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 5: Joe Piscopo. We have such an exciting group of people 629 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 5: who are going to be in an audience, very big, 630 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 5: heavy hitters. People are extraordinarily successful and very well known 631 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 5: across the country and even the world. So I'm so 632 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 5: honored that my very first public event, and this organization 633 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 5: has been around for six months now. 634 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 4: We're doing it big. 635 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 5: We're doing it tomorrow Lago and I have my best 636 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 5: Sie with me, who's gonna help bring in so much 637 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 5: exposure to what we're doing. 638 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 4: And we'll raise a lot of money and help a 639 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 4: lot of family. 640 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 5: So I'm really excited and so thankful and honored that 641 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 5: you answered the call Lisa to help us out. 642 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: Well, of course, but can be honest, I didn't realize 643 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: it was going to be such a big thing. 644 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: When you asked. 645 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: I honestly didn't realize. 646 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 5: No. 647 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: I just like immediately said yes because you're such a 648 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, a dear friend of mine. 649 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: And I was like, so proud of you. 650 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: And excited for it, and so I was like, of course. 651 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: I'll do it. 652 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: And then now it's like this huge, like a little 653 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: nervous No, it'll go right, We'll be great. Its like, 654 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: and then before we go, what do you hope to 655 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: accomplish with the institute? 656 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 5: Well, two things, Uh one, we have the Institute and 657 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 5: then we have the Carbell Foundation for Public Safety. 658 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 4: That's our five oh one C three. 659 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 5: The instituts are five oh one CE four. Two things 660 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 5: I want to read the country of George Soros funded prosecutors. 661 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 5: I think we're gonna, you know, pretty soon jump into 662 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 5: races where progressives are those are the major extremes of 663 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 5: the Democratic Party. So we'll get involved in that as well. 664 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 5: So we want to help save lives to that policy 665 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 5: making peace, just getting folks out of office. And then 666 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 5: our foundation is more about the advocacy the lawmaking, talking 667 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 5: to members of Congress, members of all levels of government, 668 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 5: increasing penalties of a law and two I'm sorry, in 669 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 5: influence the lawmaking process. In addition, we want to support 670 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 5: members victims of violent crime through mental health services and 671 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 5: many other services. So that's where we're going with both organizations, 672 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 5: and we're already seeing success. We got involved with the 673 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 5: George Gascon race. Nathan and Hawkman reached out to us 674 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 5: and our infansy stage, we got on board. I did 675 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 5: radio ads from throughout Los Angeles County on behalf of 676 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 5: the institute. Uh and we you know, we paid for 677 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 5: that out of our own pockets, and we were happy 678 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 5: to see Nathan Hawkman win somebody who's about lawn order 679 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 5: safety and security and he ran as an independent. 680 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 4: So, you know, we really. 681 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 5: Appreciate the fact that we can make a difference already, 682 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 5: and we're so young and in our organizational structure, but 683 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 5: thank god that there is an impact being made and 684 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 5: we look forward to making even more progress in this 685 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 5: coming year. 686 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: Well, I'm so proud of you, and I love you 687 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: and I can't wait. I can't wait to see what's 688 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: success it is and to celebrate, you know, sort of 689 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: this initial phase and the proudio and just looking forward 690 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: to continued cheering on and just thankful for your friendship. 691 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: And I'm proud of you, my friend, and. 692 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 4: I'm going to cheer you on. To Lisa Booth with the. 693 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'll be doing, this thing is heading. 694 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 4: Who knows You're already doing great. And I love the 695 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 4: name of your podcast. 696 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 2: Lisaause it rhymes yeah. 697 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 4: I'm glad that we can rhyme together. I'm glad we 698 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 4: talked about it. 699 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 5: But I'm so excited and thankful and I look forward 700 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 5: to being with you soon. 701 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: That was Gianno Caldwell. 702 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate his time, Appreciate everything he is doing. Appreciate 703 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: you guys let home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday now, 704 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: but of course. 705 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 2: You can listen throughout the week. 706 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: Also want to thank John Casso and my producer for 707 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: putting the show together. 708 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: Until next time,