1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Time. This is americle. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: There is no question, and there are problems in this 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: country between police and community. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 3: Yes, you are a donkey to the latest on that 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 3: police killing of a black man, now the new developments 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: in the deathly spatshooting rampage man. 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Yes, it was a really bad day. 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: For him and this is what he did, and so 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: we are in a state of emergency. 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 11 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: White supremacist violence, it is always have been the number 12 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: one threat to our society. 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: But I'm also very proud that my wife is white. 14 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: It's a practice club bitches. 15 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: All right, trendy, please tell me why was I your 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: donkey of the day, you know, donkey of today for Monday, 17 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: November twenty fourth. It's inspired by the meeting between Mayor 18 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: Alec Zoran Mundanni and the forty fifth and forty seventh 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: President of the United States of America, Donald J. 20 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Trump. 21 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: If you haven't heard on this past Friday, Zoran Mundanni 22 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: and Donald J. 23 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Trump had a meeting at the White House. Okay. According 24 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: to statements and reporting, they discussed. 25 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: Affordability, the cost of living crisis, public safety, economic security, 26 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: and federal local cooperations or on express that even with 27 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: deep ideological differences there has to be a practical working 28 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: relationship between the federal government in New York City. 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: Let's listen to someone. What was said. 30 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: Are you a. 31 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: Format that you think Trump is a fascist? I've spoken 32 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: about that. 33 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: All kay. 34 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: It's easier, It's easier than explaining a pedal. 35 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: But would you. 36 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: Feel comfortable living in New York City under a mondags? 37 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, especially after the meeting. 38 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we agree, and a lot more than I would 39 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: have thought. 40 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: I am really looking forward to delivering for New Yorkers 41 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: in partnership with the President on the affordability agenda. 42 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: So we're going to help him. 43 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: But I really think there's a chance to do a 44 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: great job. 45 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: I'll be cheering for him. Didn't mention anything about America. 46 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 4: I think he is going to surprise some conservative people 47 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 4: extra and some very liberal people. 48 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: I think I met with a very I met with 49 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: a man who's a very rational person. So well, they're 50 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: being very cordial to each other, very nice to each other. 51 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: I completely agree with that. And anyone who thought there 52 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: wasn't gonna be a working relationship between New York City 53 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: and the federal government doesn't understand politics. But the reason 54 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 2: I have gathered us here today is because I don't 55 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: want to hear any politicians call each other extreme names 56 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: like fascist, communists, authoritarian, wanna be dictator. None of that 57 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: kind of rhetoric can come from politicians anymore. It's all 58 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: dead because don't none of y'all really believe it. 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Okay. 60 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: And if you call someone that and then turn around 61 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: and say, but I'm willing to work with them. 62 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: It looks very hypocritical. Okay. 63 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: Leave that type of commentary for the pundits, all right, 64 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: like myself for the social media YouTube commentator crowd. And 65 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: y'all go do your jobs, okay, Go govern Go be diplomatic, 66 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: go do the politics thing, all right. That rhetoric is 67 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: irresponsible in this climate, all right, Both parties rile people up. 68 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: You know. 69 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: Have we the people mad at each other in the street, 70 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: fighting online? Some folks literally commit acts of violence against 71 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: their political opposition. Meanwhile the politicians are out here working 72 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: with each other. Okay, do we not remember some of 73 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: the things Trump and one Donnie said about each other. 74 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Let's listen. It's going to be hard for me as 75 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: the president to give. 76 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: A lot of money to New York because if you 77 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: have a communist running New York. 78 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: All you're doing is wasting the money you're sending there. 79 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: We have one because New Yorkers have stood up for 80 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: a city they can afford, where the mayor will use 81 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: their power to reject Donald Trump's fascism. This guy is 82 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: a communist at the highest level, and he wants to 83 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: destroy New York. 84 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: I will not be intimidated by this president. 85 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 4: I will not be intimidated by anyone because my job 86 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: here is to start the people of this lot. 87 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: This communist from New York. Someday gets elected. I can't 88 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: believe that's happening. That's a terrible thing for our country. 89 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: By the way, so hear. 90 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: Me, President Trump, when I say this, to get to 91 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: any of us, you will have to. 92 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Get through all of us. Blah blah blah. 93 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: I saw political theater, okay, and it's they responsible because 94 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: they got us out here choosing side gang gang on 95 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: each other. 96 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: Meanwhile they working together. 97 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: How are you gonna be mad at a person because 98 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: of who they voted for, who they supported politically, But 99 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: then watch the people you support be willing to work 100 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: with them. I know some of y'all out there saying, 101 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: but they politicians, they have to work together. Yes, they do, 102 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: and they should, but stop with the extreme rhetoric like 103 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: fascism and communism. 104 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: Okay. 105 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: Zoran Wundannie was on NBC News yesterday and he said 106 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: he still believes Donald Trump's a fascist, but he's willing 107 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: to work with him. 108 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: Let's listen. In that press conference with President Trump, a 109 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: reporter asked you whether you believe that President Trump is 110 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: in fact a fascist, word that you've used in the past. 111 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: You're about to answer. Then President Trump sort of jumped 112 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: in and he said, quote, that's okay. You can just 113 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: say yes. It's easier than explaining it. So, mister mayrilect, 114 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: just to be very clear, do you think that President 115 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Trump is a fascist? 116 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: And after President Trump said that, I said, yes, and 117 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: so you do. And that's something that I've said in 118 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: the past I say today. And I think what I 119 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: appreciated about the conversation that I had with the President 120 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: was that we were not shy about the places of 121 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: disagreement about the politics that has brought us to this moment, 122 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: and we also wanted to focus on what it could 123 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: look like to deliver on a shared analysis of an 124 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: affordability crisis for New Yorkers. 125 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: Listen in America. 126 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: My name is Leonard mclvey, commonly known as Charlamagne of God, 127 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: and I believe words matter. Now, I'm not the highest 128 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: grade of weed in the dispensary, but based on everything 129 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: I know about fascism, if someone truly believes a political 130 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: figure as a fascist, then the idea of working with 131 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: them is contradictory. 132 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 1: Okay. 133 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: Fascism isn't a normal political disagreement, all right. Disagreeing on 134 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: tax rates is a normal political disagreement. Economic issues, environmental concerns, 135 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: those are normal political disagreements. 136 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: Fascism is not. Okay. 137 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: When you call them one a fascists, you are accusing 138 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: them of being fundamentally anti democratic, authoritarian and willing to 139 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: use the power of the state to crush opposition. 140 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: Okay. 141 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: If you believe someone is fascian the historically and morally, 142 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: you resist them or use institutions, law and coalitions to 143 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: contain them. Okay, limit their power, You organize against them, 144 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: litigate against them, but you don't collaborate, because collaboration with 145 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: a fascist regime, even on small issues, legitimizes it. So 146 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: if Zorn truly believes Trump is a fascist and working 147 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: with him makes zero sense, but this is my issue. 148 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: He doesn't fully believe Trump is a fascist, just like 149 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: Trump doesn't fully believe when Donnie is a communist. 150 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: It's all political theater. 151 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: Now, there are a lot of things Trump has done 152 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: and it's said that look like fascism and authoritarian strategy 153 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: to me. But I feel like that's the media's job 154 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: to call it out. Okay, Politicians clearly can't do that 155 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: because the words don't match the actions. And that's when 156 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: you just look like a dishonest politician who says whatever 157 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 2: to get elected. 158 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: Because once again, if. 159 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: You think someone is a fascist, but you believe you 160 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 2: can work with them, that's what a question of hypocrisy 161 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: becomes unavoidable. Okay, listen to me. I know I have 162 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: a listen all right, So you don't take me serious. 163 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: But you can't call someone a fascist and treat them 164 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: like a normal political partner. 165 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Those two positions contradict each other. 166 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: So the real question for Trump, Okay, Mundani, A real 167 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: question for Trump and Mundannie. 168 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: You know these are what should be asked to them. 169 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: Hey, Trump, were you exaggerating when you called Mundania a communists? 170 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: Hey Zoran, were you exaggerating when you called Trump a 171 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: fascists are Zoran? Are you now minimizing fascism by agreeing 172 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: to work with Trump? 173 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: Or Trump? 174 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: Are you minimizing communism by agreeing to work with Zorn. 175 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: Here's the answer to all these questions. It's politics as usual. 176 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: And I'm sick of politicians doing this because once again, 177 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: you know who it hurts the most. 178 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: Us. 179 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 2: You done told your aunt and three of your cousins 180 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: f you you not invited to Thanksgiving this year because 181 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: of who they supported politically. Meanwhile, the people we supported 182 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: politically are willing to support each other. If Zoran and 183 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: Trump can be in the White House smiling at each 184 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: other and excessively touching on each other, then you and 185 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: your family can enjoy Thanksgiving Thanksgiving dinner together. 186 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Okay, listen to all elected officials. 187 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: If you call somebody a fascist or communists, but then 188 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: sit down and work with them like everything is normal, 189 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: you make those words meaningless, all right. 190 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: It's dangerous to do that. It's dangerous to weaken those terms, 191 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: and it confuses the public alight. 192 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: When you call someone a fascist or communists, it's supposed 193 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: to mean something serious. 194 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: You talking Hitler, Mussolini, and. 195 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: Politicians are using these terms for emotional leverage, not accuracy. 196 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: And the danger in that, the danger in that people, 197 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: the public becomes numb to real authoritarian threats. Please give 198 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: every politician who has done this, because it's not just 199 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: when Donnie and Trump, it's all of them, the biggest 200 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: he hull. 201 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: All right, Yes, indeed, thank you for that dog key today. Yes,