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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Matt Barrels and Disney World. Hitting up that

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Speaker 1: the original Lily Tomlin. Yeah, you know, I know all

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Speaker 1: scripts have wrinkles, but this is Yeah, but I don't

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Speaker 1: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered. Not back here.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Gillette

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Speaker 1: Stadium and UH Combine starting up. So that's the big

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Speaker 1: thing this week. Deuce is out there along with some

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Speaker 1: of our content team, and uh, perhaps he'll be calling

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Speaker 1: in at some point during the show. But back here,

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Speaker 1: it's Paul, it's Eric, it's me, it's Matt. Back from

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Speaker 1: vacation Disney World. Yeah, yeah, we were reveling in that

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Speaker 1: he's had a great time. Just I didn't get into

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Speaker 1: Star Wars. It's a magic disappointment. He went there. He

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Speaker 1: just didn't get on that one ride. You can go

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Speaker 1: on the Millennium Falcon. On the Millennium Falcon, I didn't

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Speaker 1: get on the ride of the Resistance. Wait in an

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Speaker 1: hour and then they closed it down. Fall right, you

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Speaker 1: got you got into the world. Okay, Galaxy's Edges? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: then they close it down? Do they know who you had?

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Speaker 1: Some words we exchange. So he had a great time,

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Speaker 1: magical place that Disney World. Okay. I know a lot

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Speaker 1: to the Galaxy's Edge. Is that what you said? Matt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, I don't have kids. The only thing I

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Speaker 1: lot of people lately that have gone. I haven't gone

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Speaker 1: probably in ten years. I haven't been there. Um. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people talking about it's really sort of regimented now,

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Speaker 1: I don't like that either, what I've heard, I haven't

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Speaker 1: place at a certain time. You know. Anyway, We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get into disor we're gonna we're gonna talk patriots.

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Speaker 1: So the Yeah, the combine is UM. The first part

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Speaker 1: start their press conferences UM shortly in Indie and as

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Speaker 1: as Fred alluded to, Mike do sou Is they're holding

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Speaker 1: it down. Um, please don't yell at me. Um. On

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Speaker 1: like to hear what Kevin Colbert has to say. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: day with Celtics. I turn up Johnny most listen to

422
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Speaker 1: him and watch the game on TV. I honestly never

423
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Speaker 1: did that once something now if I know every everybody

424
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Speaker 1: who says they did, I did it. Yeah, I never

425
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Speaker 1: did it. I tried doing it at the Super Bowl

426
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Speaker 1: when we were sitting there in the press box, but

427
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: the delay was too long. It was like almost a

428
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Speaker 1: full two plays before the thing would catch up. It's like,

429
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Speaker 1: at that point it's worthless. I loved listen at Johnny Moss.

430
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Speaker 1: He was he was the worst and the best at

431
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Speaker 1: the same Yeah, Like he wasn't that good, but he

432
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: was just such a character. Yeah. Um. The other thing

433
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Speaker 1: that was announced the other day International Games for this year.

434
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Speaker 1: It's official that Tampa Bay will host the game in Munich. Uh.

435
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Speaker 1: And then there's gonna be two games in London, three

436
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Speaker 1: three games in London in a game in Mexico. Um.

437
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Speaker 1: Arizona has the Mexico game. Yeah, they're the home team

438
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Speaker 1: for that. Packers Saints will play at Tottenham Hotspur and

439
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: Jacks will play at Wembley. Yep. So um, likely the

440
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Speaker 1: Patriots will not be involved in any of those um.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people were surprised at the Patriot's

442
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Speaker 1: weren't the team in Germany? Um. And it comes down to,

443
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots only have eight home games this year.

444
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: Next year they'll have nine home games, and most likely

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Speaker 1: next year the Patriots will be in line to play

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Speaker 1: a game in Germany, assuming they give up a home game. Um.

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Speaker 1: And you know, now, if the Patriots were on Tampa

448
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Speaker 1: Bay schedule this year, then that would have been up

449
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Speaker 1: and you know, it could have been a possibility that

450
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Speaker 1: the Patriots play the Bucks in Germany, but we're not

451
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Speaker 1: on the Buccaneers schedule, so that's out of the question.

452
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Speaker 1: So there's a chance you would think that, I mean,

453
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Speaker 1: logic would tell you that if the Patriots have been

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Speaker 1: assigned as one of the four teams in the German market,

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Speaker 1: that they wouldn't be putting the Patriots to play in

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Speaker 1: London and Mexico, where they've already played in the past. Yeah,

457
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: they'd be you know, and they've already they have four teams, right,

458
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Speaker 1: it's Panthers, Chiefs, Patriots, Bucks or the four German right

459
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Speaker 1: home market teams, and they've come to an agreement with

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Speaker 1: the next four years having games in Germany, two in

461
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Speaker 1: Munich too, in Frankfort, correct, Right, So you have to

462
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Speaker 1: assume that over that four year span all four of

463
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Speaker 1: those teams are going to host one of those games. Probably, Yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: let's hope the Patriots get unit because Frankfort's quite not

465
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Speaker 1: is attractive an option. But um yeah, so this year

466
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Speaker 1: probably know, Kansas City, Are they on Tampa Bay's schedule?

467
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but because that would be a likely matchup.

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Speaker 1: If so they played last year, Um, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that. I don't know if that, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they are that might not eliminate. Um, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: they did play, No, they didn't play last year? What

472
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Speaker 1: am I? What am I thinking? I was thinking of

473
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Speaker 1: two years? Anyway about Kansas City schedule? Hold on play

474
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Speaker 1: him in the Super Bowl last year. So even though

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Speaker 1: the Patriots aren't playing in Germany this year, you're going

476
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Speaker 1: to be hearing some Patriots slash German news come up.

477
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Speaker 1: So working on working on some stuff, yep. So for

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Speaker 1: you German fans, um, it's gonna be good. And you know,

479
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of our other countries where we're popular,

480
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: like Mexico and Kay the Bucks. Yeah yeah, so that

481
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Speaker 1: could be Kansas City does play the Bucks. That's well,

482
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Speaker 1: that would be uh, I mean twenty twenty two opponents. Yeah,

483
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Speaker 1: so that's who German markets. It's likely, Yeah, that's likely. Um,

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Speaker 1: But you know for the other countries that you know

485
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Speaker 1: express concern, why well, how come the Patriots aren't hmmas

486
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: aren't home teams in our country. It's like UK and

487
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: Mexico and um, Germany. Now, but that doesn't mean down

488
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Speaker 1: the road that the Patriots won't submit, um, you know,

489
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Speaker 1: a proposal for the other countries too to the league.

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Speaker 1: So just a logistical question about this, since you're somewhat

491
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Speaker 1: involved in all this stuff, Fred, is the goal to

492
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Speaker 1: have every team be associated with an international market? I

493
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Speaker 1: don't think specifically, no. I think the goal for the

494
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Speaker 1: league is just to have to expand the international market.

495
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: And they came up with this plan to basically have

496
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Speaker 1: the teams do the work of the league. You know.

497
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: I think they realize that, you know, teams have been

498
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Speaker 1: doing their own stuff in these countries anyway, you know,

499
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Speaker 1: so let's kind of open it up and create some competition,

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Speaker 1: but also have the teams commit to being there. You know.

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Speaker 1: So in order to have Germany, for example, the Patriots

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Speaker 1: have to commit to a five year plan. Now, as

503
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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, we're there forever. You know, We're

504
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Speaker 1: not going to like go for five years and then leave.

505
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Speaker 1: But you know, they don't want teams going in one

506
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Speaker 1: year doing stuff and then leaving, and you know, they

507
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Speaker 1: want commitment from the teams. So yeah, I mean the

508
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Speaker 1: goal is just to grow the game. Yeah, So I'm

509
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Speaker 1: so I'm just thinking, like It wouldn't logically makes sense

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Speaker 1: to have every team be a soociated with at least

511
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Speaker 1: one country. That way, you can really expand your international

512
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Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, but there's only so many countries

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Speaker 1: I think that are viable honestly, Right, but you already have,

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Speaker 1: like Germany has four teams right now, I know some

515
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Speaker 1: teams some countries only have one team, right, wouldn't it

516
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Speaker 1: make sense to like associate it two of the teams

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Speaker 1: with at least one Yeah, that was just the opening foray.

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Speaker 1: I think they're they're taking submissions right now from teams

519
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Speaker 1: going forward, you know, so they'll at any time a

520
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: team can say, hey, you know, we just hired this

521
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Speaker 1: Brazilian kicker. Can can we can we get Brazil? You know,

522
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Speaker 1: can we go into Brazil? You know, there's a good

523
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Speaker 1: reason you can come into any you know, but you

524
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: just have to commit. Yeah, you know. Yeah, so that's

525
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Speaker 1: their international. Uh news Do do do? Do? Do? Do? All? Right?

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Speaker 1: Five five five hundred is the a Sticket hut Line

527
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Speaker 1: web radio at pagris dot com. Hopefully Douce will be

528
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: calling in from Indianapolis at some point give us the

529
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Speaker 1: lowdown on what's going on with the combine lots of

530
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: emails coming in at web radio at Patriots dot com.

531
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Speaker 1: I guess we can get to those. Um No, no

532
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: news on the JC Jackson front. Noe. We're a week

533
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: in now, and yeah, not surprising given the history that

534
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots have with the tag and waiting till the

535
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Speaker 1: last minute. Um. Yeah, nothing's really changed since last week

536
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Speaker 1: when we talked about Jackson making his comments to Phil

537
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Speaker 1: Perry about not being happy that you know, he hasn't

538
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: had any discussions with the team. But again that's the

539
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: way they usually do business anyway. They kind of wait

540
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Speaker 1: until they have to deadline, spurring action as you like

541
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Speaker 1: to say. Yep, I would say that Eric is mostly right, Um,

542
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Speaker 1: that nothing has changed. But I, you know, in the

543
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Speaker 1: in the subtle read between the lines, you know, sort

544
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Speaker 1: of media thing that I like to do, as you know,

545
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: I like to sort of trying to read the team,

546
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: my interpretations based on some of the things I do think.

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Speaker 1: There was a a thing on Sunday Mike Reese's you know,

548
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: ten ten notes that he likes to post every Sunday.

549
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: He sort of indicated that it would be lower odds

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Speaker 1: for J. C. Jackson to be tagged yep. I don't

551
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Speaker 1: think Mike is in the business of just sort of

552
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: right he gets something uneducatedly throwing stuff around, right. Uh,

553
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: Mike is as good and as thorough as anybody in

554
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: the business. Uh, certainly coaching the Patriots, I mean covering

555
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. So I would say based on that and

556
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: a couple other guys kind of following suit, I would

557
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: say that that that maybe the tea leaves are reading

558
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: no with a potential tag. Um. I wrote my notes today, um,

559
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Speaker 1: and we posted them this morning. And I think it's

560
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: a hard decision. We've been talking about her for weeks.

561
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't tag him. I would I would

562
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Speaker 1: let him walk. If you could get him at some

563
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Speaker 1: kind of a some kind of an extension that you

564
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Speaker 1: know works for you, then that would be different. But

565
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: the one year thing, I think they have more needs

566
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Speaker 1: than that would probably handle. So I just texted Mike.

567
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Speaker 1: By the way, he's going to try to call in

568
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: in the next ten minutes or so. Yeah, but I

569
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: think at this point it might be and again it's

570
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: not an easy one, but it might be wise for

571
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Speaker 1: them to just sort of let it go. I know

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00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: some people are upset about that. Then they're already letting

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Speaker 1: me have it on Twitter, which is okay, that's that's

574
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Speaker 1: what that's for. I'm glad people are reading, and I'm

575
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: glad they're interacting. I don't feel overly strongly about it. Well.

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Speaker 1: The other thing though, I think, and I think I

577
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Speaker 1: think Mike may have mentioned this in one of the

578
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Speaker 1: paragraphs in his notes, was that something we talked about

579
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Speaker 1: last week, which was would you want to tag Jackson

580
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Speaker 1: if you had a potential trade partner? Do a tag

581
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: and trade kind of thing so you get something in return.

582
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: And I think Mike threw that in there as a

583
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, this being Combine week, all the agents, all

584
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: the decision makers are in Indianapolis. This tends to be

585
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: sort of a precursor to the legal tampering period in

586
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: the three days before the start of the new league year,

587
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: where potentially you're talking with other gms, other coaches and

588
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: maybe you work out like a handshake agreement deal for J. C. Jackson,

589
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: then you at the last minute throw the tag, get

590
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: him to sign and deal him. Now, it hasn't happened

591
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Speaker 1: a ton of times with the Patriots, maybe twice that

592
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: I can think of, twice, yeah, Tebucky Tebucky Jones and

593
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: Castle right and Matt Castle. But it's still a possibility

594
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: that's out there absolutely. You know. Well, I think that

595
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Speaker 1: if you're if the Patriots are willing to like take

596
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Speaker 1: a third round pick, I think it's it's a low

597
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: risk move if if you're you know, if you want

598
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: that extra draft pick. But if you if you're gonna

599
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Speaker 1: like be dead set on getting a first round pick,

600
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Speaker 1: too risky because I don't think you're gonna get that. Well,

601
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: to Eric's point, you find that out now, Yeah. Yeah,

602
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: you find out what you're gonna be able to get now,

603
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: and then you decide by the eighth whether or not

604
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Speaker 1: that's enough for you. Yeah, So you don't tag him

605
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Speaker 1: risking I'm going to be able to get X. Yeah,

606
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Speaker 1: you tag them knowing what you're going to be able

607
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: to get because of what goes on this week in Indie. Yeah. Now,

608
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Speaker 1: given the way this team has done business in the past,

609
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Speaker 1: wouldn't you assume that, like as Mike was speculating in

610
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Speaker 1: his notes, Mike Rerease that if they really wanted to

611
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Speaker 1: keep a player, any player doesn't have to be Jackson,

612
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Speaker 1: but any year, any player who was a potential franchise

613
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Speaker 1: tag candidate. If they really wanted to keep him, there

614
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: would have been some sort of outreach by this point.

615
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Speaker 1: It might not have been in depth contract negotiations, but

616
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Speaker 1: there might have been some sort of like, hey, we

617
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Speaker 1: know what's down the road, we want to talk, we're open,

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Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. I think so that

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Speaker 1: if they did tag him, it would almost be like

620
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Speaker 1: a formality, like you know, we're yeah, we're working things out.

621
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Speaker 1: Halfway through. Yeah, we just want to make sure that

622
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Speaker 1: you stick around. But even more so, you did an

623
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Speaker 1: extension last year. I mean, that's when you really do

624
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: it well. Sure, but there have been case is where

625
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Speaker 1: it gets to this point and they know they want

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Speaker 1: to keep the player, but you know, they only tag

627
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: him just because they know that they're working something out.

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Speaker 1: It seems like this might be a case where they

629
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Speaker 1: really don't want to keep him. And again, we're just

630
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Speaker 1: kind of trying to read between the Yeah, there's there's

631
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Speaker 1: a lot of but there's a lot of behind the scenes.

632
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: But like you know, maybe like they've told talked to

633
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: his age and said, you know, see what's out there,

634
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, and come back to us. So I do

635
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: like the fact that I told you that I've gotten

636
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: some some interaction already because it posted this morning. I

637
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: like the fact that some people are passionate about it.

638
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: You know, just pay the man. It shouldn't be all

639
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: that hard, you know, pay him. And I like that.

640
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: What I'm interested in is that kind of opinion. I

641
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: want to know now what you think. Yeah, I don't

642
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: want to know after the fact. I don't want to

643
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: know the day after he signs a five year, ninety

644
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: five million dollar contract with the San Francisco forty nine

645
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: ers that you think it was dumb contract, right right? Yeah,

646
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: let the dumb teams pay. I want to know what

647
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: you think now. And that's why I like the people

648
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: that have already you know, weighed in, no, he's not

649
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: worth it, right yeah, because the Patriots could sign them tomorrow.

650
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: But even if they say pay the man, pay them, what, like,

651
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: what are you willing to pay them? You know, right?

652
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: Because I've heard like, oh, that's what I could. That's

653
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: why I've been telling you he's going to be in

654
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: the top five cornerbacks when when, when this is said

655
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: and done, So if you're not prepared to go there,

656
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: then let it go. Just let them go, and it's like,

657
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: and that's okay, Just like your discussion about the broadcasters.

658
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what the markets paying them nowadays. Right,

659
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: they're probably not they're not worth it, but that's what

660
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: the markets paying. Yeah, Romo blew it out of the water. Yeah, yeah,

661
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: all right. Five five hundred is the ACE ticket outline

662
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com. Bill and DC writes

663
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: about J. C. Jackson, right or wrong, the Patriots have

664
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: this reputation for not handing out big dollar contracts. Do

665
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: you think this is solely Bill's approach or is it

666
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: coming down from Robertcraft and Bill? And Bill is taking

667
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: a bullet for the ownership when it comes to the Patriots.

668
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: Who has the ultimate say on negotiating big ticket contracts?

669
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: After all, it is Crafts money, and I would imagine

670
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: Bill doesn't have a free reign without Roberts. Okay, have

671
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: we been blaming the wrong guy when players walk because

672
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots won't pay them? Um? I think it's a

673
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: you know when it I think everything about that is

674
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: perfect except for I don't know who gets blamed. Yeah,

675
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: Like I think the way that's written, I think it

676
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: seems like he thinks everybody blames Bill, and I don't

677
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: know that everybody blames Bill. I think when it comes

678
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: to big ticket contracts, you know, Robertcraft does have to

679
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: have absolutely you're not signing a guy to a one

680
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars contract without the owner's consent, right, any

681
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: in any NFL local Right, Oh we can, we can

682
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: let him wait. Oh okay, but but but that's yeah,

683
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean I totally agree with that email. I do

684
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: think that's their philosophy, for better or worse. I think

685
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: the Patriots really tried to be fiscally conservative. Yeah, would

686
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: you not. Yeah, But at the same time, don't miss write,

687
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, don't rewrite history. They allowed Malcolm Butler to

688
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: go in this similar kind of situation and signed Stefan

689
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: Gilmour to one of the largest free agent cornerback contracts

690
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: in history. Yep, just like last year they signed two

691
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: tight ends for the largest free agent tight end contracts

692
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: in history. So it's not cheap, right, It's sometimes you

693
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: don't know their methodology calculated, right, You don't know sometimes

694
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: what they think. Yeah. Yeah, And the question that I

695
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: might have is who has more say on something like that?

696
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: Where like you lose a Super Bowl hero in Malcolm

697
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Butler or you allow him to go. Does the owner

698
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: then go to the coach and say, hey, look, we

699
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: just took a huge pr hit here. We need something big.

700
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: I want to spend money, get me the best cornerback.

701
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: Is that how the conversation work. Or does Bill go

702
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: to the owner and say, hey, I believe in this guy,

703
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: I really want him. We gotta pay him what we like. Yeah,

704
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: who is the one that instigates? I think it's both ways.

705
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: I think it's both ways. But and I think but

706
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: I think Bill has a certain um idea of what

707
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: value is for a player. Yeah, I think Bill definitely

708
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: And unless you're unless you're like really elite. Yeah, he

709
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: doesn't like play paying the big bucks. Now, he will

710
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: overpay for those team guys like the yah you know,

711
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: like the special teams guys like Special Team for the

712
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: safety that Andy loved. Yeah, James Sanders generally doesn't want

713
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: to set the market at a position, but he will

714
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: give two more million to a guy in the middle, Yeah,

715
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: than anybody else would even think of a good example. Yeah,

716
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: Kendrick Morn was like blown away by the contract that

717
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: he was given, and he came out and said, like Hey,

718
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: I saw him in New England because like, yeah, they

719
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: threw all this money out. I think Bill is really

720
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: aware that everybody in the locker room is watching everybody else.

721
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: They know what everybody else is may king, and I

722
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: think he's very aware of that, and he, you know,

723
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: plays that game where I can't pay this guy because

724
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: it'll affect my locker room. I want to reward this

725
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: guy because it'll show other guys that if you do

726
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: a B and C, you'll you know, you'll be rewarded.

727
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of that going on, not

728
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: just here, but in a lot of locker rooms night.

729
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: So let's hear it from Deduce. Yeah, what's up, Mike, Mike,

730
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: Paul is ready for you now, good start. Are you

731
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: on the h Oh? There he is, Freddie fat fingers, Mike,

732
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: you're at a combine. What's going on now? Oh? Just

733
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: how we just got here? Um and yeah, I got

734
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: a sandwich. So we're we're getting ready to get set

735
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: up as some of the Bills guys are going to

736
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: be speaking at one o'clock, so we headed down and

737
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: listening to them. But yeah, otherwise n't really dived in

738
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: head first yet. But uh, yeah, Paul, we miss it.

739
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: We miss it for sure. No, I know. I'm sure

740
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: the rest of Indy does as well. But has it

741
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: started yet? Have anybody? Has anybody gone? Because I'm watching

742
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: NFL network and they haven't shown anybody at a podium crickets.

743
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: Uh not that I know. We just we he gotten

744
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: in here. We got our credentials. Um, I know, look

745
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: like I said, I think really, I think a lot

746
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: of guys are supposed to start going at the top

747
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: of the hour. So, uh so we filled up on

748
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: some food. Kind of actually kind of funny. Josh mckneos

749
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: and Days Eagler, We're both on our flight out of Boston,

750
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: So I guess they have not relocated to Vegas yet.

751
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: So did you say hello? No, I didn't know. Into

752
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: the back Yeah, well you got you got start struck.

753
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: I read I was reading that where the Jets have

754
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: decided to have very light attendance. Have you heard about

755
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: that where Sala's not going to be there and other

756
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: Jets aren't going to be Really No, uh no, I haven't,

757
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: but I will. I will make sure to keep my

758
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: eyes my peepers peeled as hard, he would say, for

759
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: any Jets people. But Uh, but no, it's going to

760
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: be back. I mean, it's it's hard to believe it's

761
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: been two years since we were last year, and uh yeah,

762
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: it's uh, everybody's kind of descending upon upon Indie right now.

763
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: Everybody's just rolling in. Okay, all right, you're ready for

764
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: How have you seen the Cowboys bus? Yeah? Yeah, I'm

765
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: chanting on the window looking for it though. Okay, what's

766
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: what's that all about, Paul? You see the Cowboys busing? People? Know,

767
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm asking. The Cowboys have this big, gaudy bus with

768
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: the star on the side and everything. And I don't

769
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: know if Jerry Jones may or may not be on there,

770
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: but they're they're contingent sort of travels around downtown Indie

771
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: and this enormous bush. Right, yeah, you see, I have

772
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: seen it. There may or may not be entertainment going

773
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: on in the bush. Yeah yeah. If I end up

774
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: in the bus, I'll be sure to take a picture

775
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: of All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna guess that your

776
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: phone will be confiscated if you go on the bus.

777
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: I could just see Dukes walking the streets of Indianapolis

778
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: with his theme song playing, and you know, Deuce has

779
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: returned to Indie. Deuce, Right, all right, well dudes, if

780
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: anything does you know happen and that's worth calling back,

781
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 1: do so, do so? I will so. Yeah, we should

782
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: have some good guys going between one and two. So

783
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: if anything big happens, Yeah, we got the Bill's contingent

784
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: is scheduled at one, as Mike said so, and then

785
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: Jason Light and arians a little after. If you figured

786
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: out Saint Elmo, did you get reservations multiple reservations, Yeah,

787
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: there's multiple reservations. We're doing our best. We might have

788
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: to go in there and swill o our weight around.

789
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: We might both dropping infect kurse. Matt will take care

790
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: of you. Okay, now I'll get you a ten thirty table.

791
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: All right, good luck out there. Well, all right, Duce

792
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: from nothing really going on yet, Yeah, it looked it

793
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: looked pretty empty on the live shot that they did. Yeah,

794
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: there was supposed to be an NFL network. The Broncos

795
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: were supposed to be off at twelve and twelve fifteen,

796
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: and I didn't see anything on NFL. Yeah, we've getting

797
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: shots of the podium. There. There you go. There's the aforementioned.

798
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: Jason is a Light who I believe said something along

799
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: the lines of the light is always on or you

800
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: always leave a light on for I like Tom Brady. Yeah,

801
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: has always something like that light get it, I do

802
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: get it. I didn't like it. I just moved on.

803
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: But you know he's been there a long time, hasn't he?

804
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: He has? He went to the Cardinals first, was that right? Oh?

805
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: I thought he went right to Tampa, But you could

806
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: be right. I forget these, but he's been he seems

807
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: like he's been there for a long time. Yeah. I

808
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: remember when he looked young. Um, let's see that old.

809
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: That was a rocket shot. He looks older like older. Yeah,

810
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: somebody's been there for like two days now, professorial, Like

811
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: I remember when he was a kid. Um. Addison from

812
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: Fresner writes in general offseason nonsense, I wanted to lead

813
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: off by saying that Paul's appearances on the Sunday Morning

814
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: Football Show were appointment listening. I have some two weeks

815
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: in a row. Has some advice for you on that

816
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: show to talk? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you need to talk

817
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: because you can't let him just go and ramble. That's tough. Yeah,

818
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: you gotta talk from Paul. Take the lead. That was

819
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: a little hungover this week? Is that right? Yeah, it's

820
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's that's my one piece of advice

821
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: for that show. I was curious about your guys take

822
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: on the idea of taking the red pen to something.

823
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: I think it is crazy that Arians felt compelled to

824
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: come out and defend himself by saying he didn't use

825
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: a red pen specifically. My questions are, does someone using

826
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: a red pen on your work bug you and you

827
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: even understand why it bugs people? No, you're I think

828
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about the actual pen as if that's

829
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: the problem. But the thing is, it would bug me

830
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: if Fred said to me, Paul, I want you to

831
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: write a five thousand word feature on Robert Craft and

832
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: just post it. And then I wrote the five thousand

833
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: word feature on Robert Kraft and I had carte blanche

834
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: because that's what you told me to do. And then

835
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: in turn, you said, oh no, before you post that,

836
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: let me see it, and he just disapart, yeah, you know,

837
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: and made all kinds of changes. I would be a

838
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: little miffed now if he has said to me, Paul,

839
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: I want you to do a five thousand word feature

840
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: on Robert Kraft. When you get it start putting it together.

841
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: When you get it, you know, come and see me.

842
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: We'll go over it, and then we'll post it. He

843
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: could eviscerate the whole thing with a red pen and

844
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have any problem with it at all, right,

845
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: because he's up front, he's telling me what he is expecting.

846
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: So I don't know if Bruce arians told Byron Leftwich

847
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady listen, I'm on the shelf. You guys

848
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: got to come up with the game plan this week.

849
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: It's all you. And then all of a sudden they

850
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: come up with the game plan and he just completely

851
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: changes it. All that would bother me. Yeah, But if

852
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: it's the head coach, well within his rights to make

853
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: adjustments to a game plan, I think. And he just said,

854
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, you guys get started on that. I can't.

855
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: I can't be there, and then we'll go over it. Yeah,

856
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: I got no issues with that. But I also think

857
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: it's a general rule. Like in having talk and talk

858
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: to writers sports writers throughout the years, they rarely like

859
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: their editors. No, copy editors in general are really underappreciated people. Yeah,

860
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: they get a lot of heat. I didn't write the headline.

861
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: I didn't change that I didn't write that. Why is

862
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: he so heavy handed that there's a lot of you know,

863
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: it's like writers always complain about their editor poop poop

864
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: goes downhill. Yeah, that's in a newspaper office. It goes

865
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: downhill to the copy editors. And it's I think, I

866
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: think in those guys are invaluable. They don't get the

867
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: dude and I don't And I think in today's world

868
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: they aren't enough editing. There isn't enough editing going on online.

869
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: It's it's so easy to just publish, right that the

870
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: kind of the editor the editing process as kind of well.

871
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: And there's also the pushed out the desire on the

872
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: part of these outlets to get things up in such

873
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: a hurry, right that they even forego the editing editing,

874
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: and they're so bootstrap they don't want to pay. And

875
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: I know people like look at editing and proofreading is

876
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: the same thing, and that it's not not like to

877
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Fred's point, there's a lot of typos that find their

878
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: way onto a website. It happens everywhere because there's not

879
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: a lot of eyes reading things before they go up.

880
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: But editors, a good copy editor will find a better

881
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: way to write something and say something. He works in

882
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: conjunction with the writer and it makes the writer better,

883
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: right or not, not even just that that's true, but

884
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: also like he'll look and say, um, this is this

885
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: is a factual error in attribution of things like that too. Well,

886
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: when it's like fact checkers, yeah, fact checkers, Like when

887
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: you're writing hard news, Yes, for like the New York

888
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: Times or the Wall Street Journal, you have to have

889
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: fact checkers because you can get sued, right, you know, yep, um.

890
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: But I think that that's kind of so. I think

891
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: it's that it's a hard one there with the arians

892
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: because you don't know exactly what the parameters were going in.

893
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily being upset that someone took a

894
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: red pen to your your work. Some people that said,

895
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a lot of writers who are

896
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: very thin skin, Yeah, very pretend active. They're all Stillman

897
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area wanted to start a discussion on

898
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: an under the radar topic. That topic is backup quarterback.

899
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: I think we took it for granted. Brady's durability throughout

900
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: his career. Other than the two thousand and eight ACL injury,

901
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: he never missed a game due to injury. With Hoyer

902
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: entering as a free agent, and whatever the deal is

903
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: with Stidham, I'm concerned with who will be behind Jones.

904
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: This concerns me both from a development and potential injury standpoint. Developmentally,

905
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: Jones will have a new offensive coordinator slash quarterback coach,

906
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: whatever the title is, would judge? I think having a

907
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: veteran presence could help Jones in his sophomore season. What

908
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: are your thoughts and where do you think the Patriots

909
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: will go for a backup? Do they resign Hoyer? They could?

910
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: I actually just posted if you want to look at

911
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: Patriots dot com, we are doing our free agent forecast

912
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: position by position previews, and today the quarterback position just

913
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: went up. So apropos to your email if you want

914
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: to go up there and look. I did a little

915
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: roundup of all the quarterbacks who are available and who

916
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: they might be interested in. I think the emailer makes

917
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: a really good point too, Not so much for if

918
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: something happens to Matt Joe. Like I think most teams

919
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: are in trouble if their starting quarterback goes down for

920
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: any length of time. You know, I think you can

921
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: still find a way to get by and win some games,

922
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: but you're probably no longer a threat if that's the case.

923
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: But the more important thing I think is what the

924
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: emailer touched on there. And given all of the uncertainty

925
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: with the coaching staff, retaining a guy like Horrier might

926
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: be even more important this year for mac Jones than

927
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: it would if McDaniels was still here. Do you guys agree, Like,

928
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: how many different things from last year you're going to

929
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: take away from them in one year? Like I had,

930
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: I had this offensive coordinator that I had a great

931
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: relationship with, and I had these other offensive coaches that

932
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: helped along the way. I had this veteran quarterback who

933
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: knew the system like the backup his hand, and he

934
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: really guided me throughout the year. Now they're all gone, Like,

935
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be ideal. I think there's

936
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: a chance that Horrier could be Well, let me ask

937
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: you a question. This is a is a backup quarterback

938
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: more important on a team that has an elite quarterback

939
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: like a Brady or an Aaron Rodgers or a team

940
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: that's a playoff contender where the quarterback is more middle

941
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: of the road like a mac Jones, in which case

942
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: is the backup quarterback more important, and I think in

943
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: the current one I do too, Yeah, because I think

944
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: because your offense isn't as dependent as the quarter on

945
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback as the elite one. If you lose Rogers

946
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: or you're not replacing it, right, you're not replacing Brady right,

947
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: he goes down. But if you lose Jones, an adequate

948
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: backup quarterback can still keep your water. You can closer

949
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: replicate quarterback if you have someone competent. Right now, I'm

950
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: probably you think Jones the backup quarterball, No, but I

951
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: think Horrier would have gone ten and seven last year. Yeah.

952
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: Don't you say when you say lose, you mean for

953
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: the year. Yeah, like period. Yeah, I agree with Fred.

954
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: I think friends, I think friend's onto something. I just

955
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: want to help out. Dave here, he's from Lancaster, California, says,

956
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: years ago in the show, there was a conversation you

957
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: had about washing machines and how you had to buy

958
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: a new one. I need your help. I can't remember

959
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: what brand you said was the best, and do you

960
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: still stand by that? My Samsung just broke. It broke

961
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: just a couple of months after the warranty being over

962
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: this to happen with everything. PS do not buy Samsung.

963
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: I hear there are a lot about their home appliances.

964
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: I agree. Uh, Speed Queen is where you want to

965
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: go now. I remember this now that you know the

966
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: problem with Speed Queen is you don't get all the

967
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: bells and whistles. It's not like Samsung or LG where

968
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: you get this and that and the other. Steam clean.

969
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: But if you if you want just America, if you

970
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: want at years, if you want an American made washer

971
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: with a steel drum, that's just gonna last. Speed Queen

972
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: is where you want to go now. You haven't you today.

973
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: If you have a huge family, though, you might want

974
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: to go with one of the bigger, you know brands

975
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: that you can do bigger loads. Not a fan of Maytag.

976
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: Maytag is Maytag's good durable, Yeah, but I like Speed Queen.

977
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: The problem with all appliances nowadays is they're not built

978
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: to last. That's why you go with Speed Queen. The

979
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: different Speed Queens are the ones used in the laundry mats.

980
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: They just go, but they're built to give you five

981
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: to ten years, not to Speed Queen. Okay, all the guys,

982
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: all the guys that sell all of these different things

983
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: a wrong freend right street Queen. You won't find speed

984
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: Queen in like the lows and the home. I had

985
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: never heard of it. Everything you have to go to

986
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: one city sales or gray As appliances like they have these,

987
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: ask them what they think about speak queen, and they

988
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: all tell you the same thing. What they're not built

989
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: to last more than ten years. Okay, now that's what

990
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: they told me. I get. I'm going on eighteen on

991
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: my washing machine, So I've beat the system. So you

992
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: beat the syste knock on wood. Yeah, I did the

993
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: same thing with my refrigerator. I just got a new

994
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: refrigerator for the first time since I moved into my house. Yeah,

995
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: so I've been lucky with appliances now, dishwashersy I think

996
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: I already. I think I'm on my second one of those,

997
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: So that one not so much. Yeah, impliances, that's a

998
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: that's a racket. It is. It's a racket. Yeah, you

999
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: gotta have them. Yeah, and they're not made to last anymore. No,

1000
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: it's true. What is made to last nowadays? Freddy, I

1001
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: don't already's built to last. I don't know stands the

1002
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: test of time. But like I said, I if you're

1003
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: looking for just a basic speed Queen washer dryer, American

1004
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: made steel drum, no plastic, you go. You go with

1005
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 1: the Speed Queen, all right. Now, some people say they're

1006
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: a little it's a little tough on the clothes, a

1007
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: little rough on them. Now I'm gonna find out it

1008
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: doesn't clean the cloth, it makes holds of them, steal

1009
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: drum with sharp edges. I just I just wanted to

1010
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: help out Dave. There. I'm sure, I'm sure he feels right.

1011
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: He could be standing in the store and hes right right,

1012
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: you're right, you know, let me tell me, tell me

1013
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: about this the guys you're calling a radio show. I am.

1014
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm standing in the middle of the store, and I

1015
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: forgot when Fred's. Let me check in with Fred's to

1016
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: see what. All right, he probably has like industrial uh

1017
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: washing machine because of his oh and by the way,

1018
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: that a right he has, and by the way, the

1019
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: speaker and all of the laundry that he gets stained

1020
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: all the time. And they're less expensive too. That's another

1021
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: good point, Dave. Where else would you go for laundry advice?

1022
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: And friend makes a great point right now, Actually we

1023
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: haven't even eaten the point. But but I need good

1024
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: washing machine because of because problem. Eric makes a great point.

1025
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: Who better than Fred to give laundry advice? Right? No

1026
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: one needs it more than you, that's right. Uh. Christian

1027
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: from la Is on the A Sick and hot Line.

1028
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: What's up? Christian? Hey, you guys. You know here we

1029
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: are in the off season and pondering all the things

1030
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: that we need to do administratively. I know that the uh,

1031
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: the guilt challenges that are coming up, but um, you

1032
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: know what the club again? What the combine? Combine? Are

1033
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: you in a machine shop? What do you airport? Exactly?

1034
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: I was in for with the you know, the blue bottom. However,

1035
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: I was wondering which one of the guilts that do

1036
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: you guys think if they didn't impad That translates to

1037
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: how the athlete would perform on the field. For example,

1038
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: they be doing like the love throws. The guys can

1039
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: easily catch it over the head. But when you're wearing

1040
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: shoulder pads, your catch radius changed it, right, Well, I

1041
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: mean back in the day they used to wear the

1042
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: big pads. That doesn't really affect. Yeah. To me, it's

1043
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: all about contact, Like it's not necessarily how they're draft. Yeah. Yeah,

1044
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: anybody can come across the middle knowing there's no one

1045
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: there to knock the lights out and make the catch.

1046
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: But yes, you have the toughness to do that. No

1047
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: one's going to get hit. I mean, if you want

1048
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: to look at a New England specific one that people

1049
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: write about a lot at this time of year, it's

1050
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: the three cone drill for you know, I don't necessarily

1051
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: buy it. It's Christian. That's a big Patriots thing. You're

1052
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: absolutely right, know they talk about that every year with

1053
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: especially with receivers. Who are you know, in the in

1054
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: the slot type category interior? Can I address that for

1055
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: a second, yes, what what position would you say the

1056
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: Patriots have had the most difficult time trying to identify

1057
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: in the draft wide receiver? Well, we would say there's

1058
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: two cornide receivers, one in corners together. Yep. Maybe we

1059
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: should stop looking at three cone drills so much. Yeah,

1060
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: well yeah, I mean if maybe we should look at

1061
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: that and something else too, playmaking ability? Yeah, what do

1062
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: you think game tape? Yeah, I don't know. It's they

1063
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: have had trouble, you know, particularly in the second round.

1064
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: But then you look at guys like Cyrus Jones, he

1065
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: was a first round pick, and they blew that he

1066
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: was the second round to the second he was the

1067
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: second round. Yeah no, But like, the wide receiver draft

1068
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: has been really, really tough for the Patriots, you know,

1069
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: aside from Dion Branch one hundred years ago, they really

1070
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: haven't identified a wide receiver in the draft. And yes,

1071
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm not counting Julian Edelman because they didn't identify him

1072
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. He's he was. They made him.

1073
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: He was a lottery picky. They got lucky. No, but

1074
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying they got lucky. I give them

1075
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for developing him, but they didn't

1076
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: do it as a wide receiver. They didn't know what

1077
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: he was. Like Deon Branch, wide receiver they identified and

1078
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: he hit that, you know. You know, aside from Malcolm Mitchell,

1079
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: whose career was obviously cut short for injuries, they really

1080
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: didn't do that with anybody else. Yeah. Yeah, It's it's

1081
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: unfortunate that Mitchell had to have such an injury history

1082
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: because he looked like he could have been something. But

1083
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: at the same time, he probably would never have been

1084
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: a Patriot if he hadn't been injured. Right, He wouldn't

1085
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been available when the Patriots took Yeah. Yeah,

1086
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of stuff, a lot of a

1087
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: lot of construction cornerback and and um wide receiver. Yeah,

1088
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: and like it's a very simplistic thing, but it just

1089
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: sort of popped into my head like that is because

1090
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: Eric is right. Every year everybody goes to the combine

1091
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: testing and they look at the three cone drills and

1092
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: they say, this guy's a patriot, This guy's a patriot,

1093
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: this guy's a patriot. Well, maybe they should stop doing that. Yeah,

1094
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: they it's almost like they have they have better luck

1095
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: developing guys that are either low round or undrafted guys

1096
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: in the secondary than they do drafting it. Oh, the secondary,

1097
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: they've had great lucky undrafted guys. Yeah, Randall Gay and

1098
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler and Jonathan John And you wonder why why

1099
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: is that? You know? Why is it? Is the guy

1100
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: hungrier and more coachable and willing to do what It's

1101
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: a great question. That's a story. Yeah, that's a story

1102
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: file to file that one. H Why have they had

1103
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: so much success with undrafted cornerbacks? Yeah, as opposed to

1104
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: as opposed to the ones they draft. Uh, little Game three, Bill,

1105
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: any commonality between the undrafted cornerbacks that you've had success

1106
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: with you you'd have to go outside of him for

1107
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: that answer. Yeah, Like maybe a Scott Pioli might give

1108
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: you some insight on that one. That won't be something

1109
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: I can do. Mike Lombardi might give you some insight there.

1110
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't remind me, um no, because you'll just say

1111
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: because Bill develops him, That's what Mike Lombardi will tell

1112
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: But why can't you do the same for a drafted guy? Exactly?

1113
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: But that's what Mike Lombardi would tell you. It's all Bill,

1114
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with Jaz Jackson. Then then

1115
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: it's all Billy, you know, Like, but he doesn't recognize

1116
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: it that Paul's points go to somebody who will give

1117
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: you an answer like here only might give you a

1118
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: semblance of an answer. Yeah, but I also would like

1119
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: to get Bill's perspective on that, sure, knowing that I

1120
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: would probably get well because in one way he's going

1121
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: to be guarded because then it shows a failure with

1122
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: the draft that guys, you know, so he's going to

1123
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: be guarded and also doesn't want to give away any

1124
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: secrets on how they developed right either. Do you want

1125
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: me to tell you how you got the true success

1126
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: with undrafted corners? Very simple? Who am I game? Three clues?

1127
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: You know it's only three of us? Are those only

1128
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: two of you? So? Uh? First one, I played my

1129
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: college ball at the University of Illinois, where my last

1130
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: game played was the Liberty Bowl Unversity ill and I

1131
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: I was drafted in the first round, where three Hall

1132
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: of Fame players were drafted at the same position with

1133
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: me in the first round. Yes, oh, I figured, come on,

1134
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: well I was. I'm I was thinking more recent Yeah,

1135
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking modern era. The first thing I thought

1136
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: of was Eugene Wilson until he said first round. Second one,

1137
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: I played my college ball at Duke and Georgia Ben Watson,

1138
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: Ben Watson, Ben Watson. And the final one I played

1139
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: at Brown University. As I just realized how stupid that was.

1140
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: I played at Brown University as a defensive lineman. Eric Rolling,

1141
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: Good job, Eric, thank you, thank you. Paul. I pride

1142
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: myself in those games, and I went winless. That was

1143
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: a good job. Yeah, he's not even He actually had

1144
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: not even given you an actual You dominated. I appreciate dominate.

1145
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: You dominated I'm not one to be dominated. Sam from

1146
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: Kentucky rights in he says, I got one percent milk

1147
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: the other day and thought of you guys, Red purple right,

1148
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: it's not red. Regarding the draft, it seems like there's

1149
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: a lot of talk of drafting a wide receiver with

1150
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: our first pick. I think that'd be great, but based

1151
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: on how slow the defense looked during the tail end

1152
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: of the season, my vote would be to pick up

1153
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: a cornerback or someone on the defense that's fast and

1154
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: can make plays. Our wide receivering corps isn't amazing, but

1155
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: I think they're good enough to get the job done.

1156
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: I think the defense has more holes to fill. If

1157
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: it was up to you, who would you pick? Or

1158
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: would you pick a wide receiver or a cornerback slash

1159
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: other defensive guy? And if you had to say one

1160
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: or the other, what do you think Bill will do

1161
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: for the first round? Yeah, defense, and I would go

1162
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: corner cornerback that would be my number one pick, but

1163
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: or or an offensive tackle. I would not want to

1164
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: take a wide receiver in the first round. I do

1165
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: believe that it's a major, major need. I don't believe

1166
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: what they have is good enough. I don't agree with

1167
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: that part of it. I just don't want to take

1168
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the first round because I think

1169
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: they have other needs to fill. Ye, let's get back

1170
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: to the phones. Rashad's in Baltimore. What's up, Rashad? Hey,

1171
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Hey? Um? I guess list the name. Well,

1172
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: y'all just talked about the wide receiver. I really want

1173
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots to draft the wide receiver. And I saw

1174
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: they had a report. I guess the Patriots meeting with

1175
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: the three wide receivers the day Bert to Williamson and um, okay,

1176
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: I want I want to live, I want to live.

1177
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't really want Berts. I

1178
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: was looking at Drake London. He kind of reminds me

1179
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: of like what Nakill Harry probably would be if he

1180
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: got here. You just just Drake London is much more

1181
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: athletic than to kill Harry Drake. Drake London is a

1182
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: really good athlete. Yeah. So I mean, I'm with you though,

1183
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: But I'd be okay if they drafted a wide receiver

1184
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: in the second round because there's a lot of them. Yeah,

1185
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 1: they just got to get the right one. That's all, yeah,

1186
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, and that's been difficult for them, yeah, over

1187
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: the years. Um. One thing I would caution you though, too, Rashad,

1188
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: When you read about players meeting with teams at the Combine,

1189
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: pretty much every player at the Combine meets with almost

1190
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: every team throughout the week at some point, So try

1191
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: try not to fall into the trap. I I understand,

1192
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: and you know that at this time of year, people

1193
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: are desperate for any sort of news, But I just

1194
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: for people who aren't maybe as clued into that. A

1195
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: lot of times teams meet with a player specifically because

1196
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: they don't know that much about him or her. Um,

1197
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: they don't know about his personal side more than anything.

1198
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: Like they have plenty of game tape on these guys,

1199
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: but they want to get to know some things about

1200
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: him to see if he'd be a fit for their system.

1201
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: They're kind of uh, you know, organizational structure, yeah, their culture. Um,

1202
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: so it's not it's it's a lot of times it's

1203
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: an information gathering thing more than it is like we

1204
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: definitely want this guy, you know. I mean it could

1205
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: could be the case. But when you look at if

1206
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: you go back and look at a lot of the

1207
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: draft picks over the last ten fift teen years. A

1208
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: lot of them in some cases didn't even meet with

1209
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots at the combine or at at all during

1210
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: the pre draft process. So it's a little bit of

1211
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: a yeah, it's a little bit of a specious argument

1212
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, not necessarily on purpose to

1213
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: be smoking mirrors, but it's not necessarily an indication that

1214
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: this team loves this play. But I guarantee you the

1215
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: Patriots are interested in every you know, like they want

1216
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: to know about everybody. They're like if if there's a

1217
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: guy raided in the top ten in any position, the

1218
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: Patriots are doing their work on them, you know. So

1219
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: certainly on defense, I would hope, yeah, And I mean

1220
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: I would like the wide received. I mean I would

1221
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: like a defensive player. But the way I'm thinking, like

1222
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: the draft board would shake up, it would be probably

1223
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: like value, so probably wouldn't get like maybe a good

1224
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: corner at that twenty one spot. Maybe it might be

1225
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: some wide receivers that dropped down and they might be

1226
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 1: at twenty one. But yeah, I'm all for a defensive player.

1227
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm all for anybody who can bring some speed, athleticisms,

1228
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: any kind of umph into the defense. Yeah, it stinks

1229
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: this hear that there aren't quarterbacks that are gonna push

1230
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: these guys down. You know, yes, I agree, Freddy. Yeah,

1231
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: all right, thanks for shot. And your chances of trading

1232
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: up are a lot smaller than they normally would be too,

1233
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: because of the dearth of draft picks that the Patriots have.

1234
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: They only have six. Right, if you're gonna trade up,

1235
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna be investing in either future picks or a

1236
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: player and a pick, and they probably are going to

1237
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: be doing that. Eldred is here on the phone to

1238
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: yell about wide receivers. I'm sure, what's up, Eldred. Hey,

1239
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: So that looks how y'all doing it good? Hey? You right? Fred?

1240
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: I love all of y'all gone wide receiver first, and

1241
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't agree with the sucking day wide receivers that

1242
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: left doctors in their crew but alive and uh William

1243
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: Wilson and the other guy they're gonna be around twenty one.

1244
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: Stanley gonna be gone, the other corner gonna be gone,

1245
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: and the linebacker that we're like for Georgia. See, I

1246
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: think Stanley could go anywhere. I think Stinley is a

1247
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: wild card. And I saw Daniel Jeremiah on his conference

1248
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: call and Mike Mike Desso wrote up a piece on that.

1249
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: I think Stanley could go anywhere. He could be available anywhere. Yeah,

1250
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: he's ranked him at fifteen. Yeah he I mean he

1251
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: could be in. He could go in the top ten,

1252
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: and he could go in the second round. I think

1253
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions about him because of the

1254
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: last two years and all the injuries he had. He

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,080
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Speaker 1: I like a lave always did when he was in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: so I'm hoping if he's there because Corner cups some

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Speaker 1: He didn't do that with a Harry you know, the

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Speaker 1: though the week. He could have went in the first round.

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Speaker 1: So could a J. Brown. No, but some stuff behind.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying there will be really good wide receivers

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Speaker 1: still go to with one with two two facts alive,

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Speaker 1: Maybe they go in the top ten. I mean, Eldri,

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Speaker 1: you know us, you know, continue our inside baseball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean from where are we going to

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Speaker 1: be and where are we going to be? What are

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01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: we gonna do? You just say that yesterday you said

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01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: you didn't know exactly how that was. Basey said, those

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Speaker 1: who were in the red press boxes blue blue? I

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01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: mean we're blue. Oh, he's gonna those who were in

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01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: the blue pro practice for in house will be in

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Speaker 1: the blue press box. But are they going to do

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01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: spacing up there? Yeah? Yeah, So we're not going to

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01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: be crowded in all. There's gonna be no visiting. Are

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01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: you answering his question seriously? From me? It just blew

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01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: me right off. Just think about what I'm asking Eric,

1505
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: You'll be spaced out as normal. That's another great moment

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Speaker 1: from all right back here and Patriots Unfiltered eight five

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Speaker 1: five PATS five hundred is the take a hot line

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Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com. It's the email address

1509
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: we talked to Deuce earlier. He's on site in Indianapolis

1510
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: and if anything happens, he'll call in. But we're monitoring

1511
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: it on the NFL network as well, and doesn't look

1512
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: like much is going on. People are starting to trickle in. Yeah,

1513
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: media trying to get a little bit more crowded. We're

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01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: looking for Duce. Yeah, yeah, so all right, they're talking

1515
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: to the Broncos GM or head of personnel next, Yeah,

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01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: not the head coach. Who is that? Okay? Was that right? Oh? Yeah,

1517
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: I had to have his name right there. Oh there

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01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: it is Um, one of the candidates to uh maybe

1519
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers, right, that would be interesting. But you know,

1520
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: I heard you on the radio, Paul Um. I think

1521
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: everyone's just kind of assuming like Rogers and Wilson are

1522
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: going to leave their teams. I think there's as much

1523
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: chance people are saying. I think people are just kind

1524
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: of thinking that's gonna happen. I think there's as much chance,

1525
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: if not better, that they stay where they are. According

1526
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: to our old friend the rap Sheet, Uh, the Packers

1527
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: and Rodgers are working on the parameters of a deal

1528
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: if he would, if he should decide to stay in

1529
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Yeah. So, and apparently he stuck around after

1530
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: the playoff loss for a few days and had conversations

1531
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: with the team at that point. Okay, so yeah, Yeah,

1532
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: I think it's not as dire over there as people think.

1533
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a done deal anyway. It's not

1534
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion that he's that he's gone. I think

1535
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: it's I think would have it backwards. I think most

1536
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: people think he's staying. Is that right? Yeah, that's not

1537
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: that I've heard. Oh yeah, everyone's just like, oh, where's

1538
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 1: he gonna end up? You know. I think there is

1539
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: some intrigue about whether or not he's gonna keep playing.

1540
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: Um and I think there's some other quarterbacks out there.

1541
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 1: You wrote about this too, Paul, right with the uh Yeah.

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01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that the Packers guys have been

1543
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: on this and saying that they think he's either going

1544
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 1: to retire will stay there. They don't see the very

1545
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 1: small percentage of him changing teams. I think that they're

1546
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 1: wishful thinking. I think there's a legitimate chance that he

1547
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 1: could leave. I don't think there's much of a chance

1548
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson leaving because I haven't heard much about it.

1549
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: But I don't rule that out either. But I think

1550
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 1: I think both of those guys could go. I think

1551
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 1: Fred you're right there. I think there was a little

1552
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: bit of momentum at the very end of the playoffs

1553
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: for Rogers to the Packers, especially, I mean Rogers to

1554
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos, especially when they hired the Packers, yeah, right

1555
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 1: as their head coach. And I think there was a

1556
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: lot of talk at that point about that. But I

1557
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: think it seems that the Tide teams to have changed

1558
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: more towards well. When he originally came back last summer

1559
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 1: he decided to return, everybody reported that they had made

1560
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: an arrangement with Rogers that they would agree to trade

1561
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: him if he still wanted to be traded after the season.

1562
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: The Packers GM Brian, I don't really know how to

1563
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: pronounce his Gudenuss Gudacust has said that he'd never made

1564
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: such a promise to Rogers. That to me is worrisome

1565
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: if you're a Packers fan. Yeah. So now everything looked

1566
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: like it was kind of going good. You know. Rogers

1567
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: said he would you know, he would talk about it.

1568
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: He'd made no brash declarations. Well I'm out now, you know,

1569
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: the season ended. He was disappointed. He said he would

1570
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: take some time, but he would make a decision quickly

1571
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: on his future. There were no indications that he was

1572
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: imminently leaving, And now the Packers are publicly saying, well,

1573
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: we never told him, We never said that, We never

1574
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: said that. Okay, maybe you're right, but why are we Yeah,

1575
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 1: why are you doing that? Like? Yeah, to me, I

1576
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: could see that being something that that bugged Rogers. Um oh,

1577
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: the phones are stacking up here, um, patriots unfiltered. So

1578
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: let's see what people have to say. We'll start with

1579
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: Andrew in La. What's up? Andrews is stacked? Hey, guys,

1580
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: how's it going. How's your weekend? Good? Good? How about you?

1581
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: Not too bad? I spent some time with some family

1582
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: from out of town, so it was a good one.

1583
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: But hey, um, on Paul's show a couple of weeks ago,

1584
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: I heard a stat that Belgee said, Um, I think

1585
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: it was I can't remember the source, but they said

1586
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: that the Eagles over the last ten years had spent

1587
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 1: I think like one hundred and sixty or one hundred

1588
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: and seventy million dollars more than the Patriots and Trap Trap.

1589
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, but if we average that out, it's about

1590
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen million dollars a year. The Eagles are spending more.

1591
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: And I know that's not always the case, and it's

1592
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, it depends on year to year, but that's

1593
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: the price of a really good edge rusher or a

1594
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,560
Speaker 1: really good linebacker or a really good wide receiver. And

1595
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, for someone that says they do what's in

1596
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,839
Speaker 1: the best interest of the football team, like Bill Belichick,

1597
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't always line up with the statistics that I'm reading.

1598
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: So I was just curious about people that kind of

1599
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: still believe that Belichick is doing what's in the best

1600
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: interests of the football team and he knows what he's doing.

1601
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: How does that kind of line up with you guys?

1602
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: And maybe you, you know, Andrew or Paul because it's

1603
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 1: his show, can answer this. But why did Felger pick

1604
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles? Are they the team that spent the most,

1605
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 1: the highest they're the highest Okay, Yeah, and they're known

1606
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: for doing that. I mean, I think everyone knows that

1607
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: they're really high role with Okay, so I mean so

1608
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: so the same question you should ask of every other

1609
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: team that hasn't spent as much, right, Okay, So now

1610
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: we're just gonna yes we are, Why don't we just

1611
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: I think what Andrew's trying to get at is do

1612
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: people still have the same faith that what the Patriots,

1613
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: how they go about it is the way to do it.

1614
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: And I would say unequivocally the answer to that is yes, yes,

1615
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: um no, No matter what the Patriots due Andrew, that's

1616
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: the way to do it. And that's the only way

1617
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: to do it, according to a lot and that's not all,

1618
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: not all, but a lot of Patriots fans. And that's

1619
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: why I brought up earlier in the show about Jase Jackson.

1620
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 1: I want to know what you think now, right, No,

1621
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: that's fair, and I don't want the Patriots to sign

1622
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 1: this guy to a long term deal. And then you

1623
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 1: tell me it's a great move, master stroke by Belichick

1624
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 1: when you actually think before the deal was signed that

1625
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: they should let him walk, right in vice versa, Right,

1626
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 1: I want to know what happens, what you think beforehand,

1627
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you right now, Andrew, a vast majority

1628
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: of the vocal Patriots fans who call into shows and

1629
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: right into opine about the Patriots, we'll be on board

1630
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: with whatever Build decides. That's the way it will be.

1631
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, it'll be adamant as well.

1632
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: Whatever the whatever the Patriots did, it was the right

1633
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: thing to do. Yeah, yeah, and then you're crucified if

1634
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: you happen to disagree with what Bill Belichick. No, but

1635
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 1: I think, I think when I think a lot of

1636
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,560
Speaker 1: people are questioning Bill right now about why isn't he

1637
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: naming an offensive coordinea? Why is he doing that? Why

1638
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: isn't he naming a defensive coordina? And I've heard just

1639
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 1: as many people saying that it makes sense. You keep

1640
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: these these job just titles. You don't need them. They're

1641
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: not important. I know. I've heard many people people are criticizing.

1642
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,759
Speaker 1: I've heard many people defending the people on the radio

1643
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: that the hosts criticize people calling in no, no, no,

1644
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: that's the way to do it. Keep them all in

1645
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: their toe, my god, hungry. No. There's a lot of

1646
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: criticism out there to do more with that. Bill gets

1647
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 1: all the credit as he succeeds, but then he can

1648
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 1: blame people that don't have coordinators assigned. You know, if

1649
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: that's a master stroke, he's he's done it well, he's

1650
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: done it well. I mean people, Fred Fred falls right

1651
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: into it. How many times has Fred told you? And

1652
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: he does it with the smallest coaching staff in we

1653
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: have not true, but he says it every day, less coaches.

1654
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. But yet when they go when

1655
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: they go seven, when they go seven to nine and

1656
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs. One of the reasons that they

1657
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs isn't because he doesn't have enough help,

1658
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: was Cam Newton. It does not because he doesn't have

1659
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: enough help. So you see the master strokes that Belichick

1660
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: has has pulled off. It's a master class in deception.

1661
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 1: I know people just think he's the greatest ever. I

1662
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: don't know why they do, right, because people like you

1663
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: perpetuate the midst So you don't think he is, but

1664
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 1: you agree he is. I agree he's a great coach. Yeah,

1665
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you that he's the greatest

1666
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: ever or not, but I think he's a great coach.

1667
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: But I, unlike you, will criticize him when he doesn't

1668
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: do it the way that I think he should. That's true.

1669
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 1: You will just automatically say, well, I thought this beforehand,

1670
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 1: but Bill didn't do it, so I must he must

1671
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 1: know something that I know. Yeah, I'll give Fred credit.

1672
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: Fred says I was wrong. Yeah, you know Bill did

1673
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: it that way, so he was right. I listen. I

1674
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: was very vocal when they traded Sony Michelle. I came

1675
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: right out at that time. I didn't wait, he's hanging

1676
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: his head on that one. I didn't wait. There plenty

1677
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: of there's plenty of of examples of me not being

1678
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: in line. But I think for the most part, no

1679
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,719
Speaker 1: one does it. No one does it. No one's perfect.

1680
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 1: But no one does it better, you know, right, no one? Yeah,

1681
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: but nobody. I don't know what that means, Like, no

1682
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: one does it better, No one's perfect. You know. Should

1683
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,560
Speaker 1: we be questioning about whether he's doing things in the

1684
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: best interests of the team. No, we shouldn't be questioning that. Well, okay,

1685
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 1: you know he does do things in the best interests

1686
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: of the team. You know, you don't have to agree

1687
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 1: with every one of them. But but I'm not. I'm not.

1688
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: That's how we get in these problems. We don't question.

1689
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to question his motives like you can

1690
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 1: question his moves and whether you agree with that. But

1691
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: you know you're you're now saying, well, he's mutinous your question.

1692
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: He questions his motives in Super Bowl fifty two um

1693
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: with with Butler. No you don't know, unabashedly no, No,

1694
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 1: he wasn't in the right mindset. He was wasn't in

1695
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 1: the right mindset, Butler. It was crying because he was crying.

1696
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's Freddie. His mind wasn't right. This

1697
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: is why where we need the cameras, because he's got

1698
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: the smirk on his face. This is why you are

1699
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: the best who's ever done this. That line right there,

1700
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: he was crying. He was crying because he didn't there

1701
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: can't have a guy in they're all emotional. Gotta let

1702
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: Johnson bad EMSI win it for you. Uh, let's go

1703
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: to Sean and Vancouver. What's up, Sean, Paul. I want

1704
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: to clarify Thursday in my email, it's not that pretty

1705
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 1: much was saying what you you said today. It's it's

1706
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 1: not that I want the Patriots not to sign Jasey Jackson.

1707
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 1: I'd love them to do that. I just said, I

1708
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 1: don't think they will, Like he said, they have too

1709
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: many needs. I just don't. Yeah, I would rather know

1710
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: what you think they should do, other than what you

1711
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: think they will do. Like we can predict it. But

1712
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: like if you think they should, then you should be

1713
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: mad if they don't, well, I'd rather they keep every player.

1714
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: There's never a time I want them to cut a

1715
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 1: good player. But I don't. You know, it's not my money.

1716
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be about money. It just it's it won't.

1717
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 1: But um, I think they won't value the player the

1718
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 1: way you do. I think it's. Yeah, that's the thing.

1719
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: I think if they thought he was as good as

1720
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 1: Gilmour was, they sign him. You know, Um yeah, they

1721
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: just because that's the thing. They will play. They will

1722
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: pay a player that they think is worth it. But

1723
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 1: it's it's tough for them to say. They don't think

1724
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 1: as many players are worth it as other teams do

1725
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: for some reason. For whatever reason. You know, they're frugal

1726
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: with their money. It's not it's I think they're frugal

1727
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 1: with their evaluation. They're tougher in their evaluation of players,

1728
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: and maybe some other teams are. I don't think it's

1729
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: a matter of being frugal and it works when you

1730
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: have the best who's ever played, yeah, right, but not

1731
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 1: so much when you like I don't think it's a

1732
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: matter of being cheat, because that's what you're saying. I

1733
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 1: think it's I'm not saying they're very tough with how

1734
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 1: they rate players, and for them to admit, like a

1735
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 1: guy is worth the money, that's hard. That's harder for

1736
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 1: them than I think than other teams. But there are

1737
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 1: but there are teams that are willing to overspend to

1738
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 1: get a talented player right, and a lot of teams

1739
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of those players I think this regime

1740
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: would say he ain't worth it. No, I know, but

1741
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: but but it's not like But the part that you

1742
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: miss is they're wrong a lot when they do that,

1743
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: but they're also right a lot. Well, but there's nobody

1744
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 1: nothing they just look at one right all the time

1745
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 1: when they do that, not all the time because they

1746
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: because they won for twenty years time well, having the

1747
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 1: best player who's ever played, they won for twenty years

1748
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: and that validated they were right about him too. By

1749
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: the way, how how so like they they elevated him

1750
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: right away. Right, they elevated him right away. They wouldn't

1751
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: pay him. Did they let him walk after twenty years? Right?

1752
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 1: They let him walk because they didn't value him the

1753
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: way other teams did, and other teams won super bowls

1754
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 1: with him. They did all right with him? Oh, John

1755
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 1: had not enough? Sean had enough of us? Yeah, they did,

1756
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 1: all right. Uh. Jeff's in Texas. What's up? Jeff? Hey, guys,

1757
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: how are you good? All right? Yeah? Thanks thinking my call? Uh. Um,

1758
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: I got a couple of points I like to put in,

1759
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: but before I do. As far as j C. Jackson, um,

1760
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 1: I am definitely saying, um, let him go or trade

1761
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 1: him away, and you get to take that money and

1762
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: spread that money around. Um, maybe you know some to

1763
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: sign some of the veterans to bring in some new

1764
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,719
Speaker 1: free agent veterans. That's that's my take on that. Okay,

1765
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 1: I like him. As far as the yeah, as far

1766
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: as the draft, Um, my precursor is, what if what

1767
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 1: if the Patriots signed Juju Smith Schuster h Could they

1768
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 1: sign him before the draft? Possibly? Yes? Oh yeah, yeah,

1769
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, any time after free agency starts March sixteenth,

1770
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: any time after March sixteenth, they can Yeah, okay, so

1771
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: so so this is my scenario. Then, so let's say that.

1772
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: Let's say that does happen. Um, I just want to

1773
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: stay when we get to our pick at twenty one

1774
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 1: if if, um, we don't have somebody that's the Patriots

1775
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: have been eyeballing, say either offfense, defense or cornerback. If

1776
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 1: somebody calls Belichick and says, hey, we'll give you a

1777
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 1: fourth and a seventh or something next year or whatever,

1778
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 1: I think Belichick wants to load up on pick, and

1779
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 1: I'd be okay with that. And then as far as

1780
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: another wide recept Wait, wait, wait, what are we getting

1781
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: for the fourth and the seventh? What are you what

1782
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: are we giving away for the fourth and seventh? We're

1783
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: giving up. I'm just saying, like our twenty first pick.

1784
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, I would never, Oh my god. I'm just saying,

1785
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: what would you know? What would you guys think it

1786
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: would be worth our first round pick? It'd be worth

1787
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: their first round pick. And it depends if it's hire

1788
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 1: or lower, like you could get like a two and

1789
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 1: a three or something like that. Yeah, or first round

1790
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 1: pick next or first round pick next or a player yeah,

1791
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: and a pick. Yeah, So I'm good with that unless

1792
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: there's like a guy they absolutely wanted, but somebody calls

1793
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: in with offers that. I mean, so you're open to

1794
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: trading down, which is fine. Yeah, I think trading down

1795
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 1: makes some sense in this scenario, this in this year,

1796
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 1: I would, you know, fashion against that to see what

1797
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 1: held the board unfolds and see like like Jeff said,

1798
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: like if there's a guy that Patriots really like at

1799
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 1: a position that they really need, um, a lot of

1800
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: groundswell all of a sudden for Juju Smith Schuster. By

1801
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:40,560
Speaker 1: the way, I'm not in love with him, Okay, me neither. Like,

1802
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 1: even if you got him, I would still draft a

1803
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 1: receiver in the one you liked. You know, so you're

1804
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 1: leaning towards you want a first round receiver. No, if

1805
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: this one you like, yeah you you. I want to

1806
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: take the best player available. This is this. I mean,

1807
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: we don't have to keep going down this road because

1808
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna have that smirk he's and eventually

1809
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna make me pop. Yeah I want. I want.

1810
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: What he's telling you is whatever they take, he's gonna

1811
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: write on. Yeah, I want to take the best player available, right,

1812
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 1: So that's a great nebulous like phrase to use, that

1813
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 1: you can never be proven wrong. It's great, there is,

1814
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 1: it's great. It's a great way to go through life.

1815
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 1: We all agree that there's so many things that they need, right,

1816
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: so pick one. You can only pick one. You're in

1817
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: charge of the draft, Fred kersh, who do you pick?

1818
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: But you don't go into the draft saying we're going

1819
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: to take a cornerback in the first round. That's stupid,

1820
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 1: I think is the most like the do you need

1821
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,679
Speaker 1: what's number one on your your need? Speed on defense?

1822
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: A position can give me a position that it's a

1823
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: master class. That's stupid to do that. I'm not gonna

1824
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 1: kill you. Like on draft, I and said friend friend

1825
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 1: thought they should take a corner. The caller that thought

1826
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: the first hour, the caller called in and asked me

1827
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,799
Speaker 1: and Paul, we both agree we would take a cornerback

1828
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 1: if all you know, all things, if everything's even, yes

1829
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 1: we're taking a corner, which they never are. But if

1830
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 1: they are in the game, okay, I'll take it's a

1831
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 1: hypothetic if it's if it's all. But but you love

1832
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: to just say, like basically, well what if they really

1833
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 1: like them? Yeah, well, no, poop. They really like him.

1834
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: They took him. They really liked nikkil Harry. So they

1835
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: draft a kicker, they drafted them. You're okay with that,

1836
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,679
Speaker 1: Like they don't draft them in the first round because

1837
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: they don't like them. The Patriots will never do that.

1838
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: How do you know? I never. You can never say

1839
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: never with the never gonna draft a kicker. You could

1840
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 1: never say never with Bill Belichick. There's another ground swell

1841
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 1: that's going on. So people have Jake Bailey out of town.

1842
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 1: Have you seen this? No, there's like a lefty punter,

1843
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, one of these stop it. No, not you,

1844
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm you're talking about Billy didn't have a great year.

1845
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: He didn't. But you don't think that's a possibility. No,

1846
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't. Oh, I do I think he I think

1847
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 1: it was injured for most of the year and had

1848
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 1: a down year coming off of an All Pro count.

1849
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 1: Is in the fifth round you couldn't see them drafted.

1850
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 1: So this is I think he's a good player. Is

1851
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 1: this his fourth year coming up? This would be his Uh?

1852
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 1: I think it's his fourth gets fourth year? Yeah, I absolutely,

1853
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't rule it out. I don't think

1854
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: it'll happen. I think it'd be dumb because I don't

1855
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: think Punter's cost anything. But yeah, I absolutely would not

1856
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: rule it out. I gotta look up the guys. I

1857
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 1: think he's a good a good player, and I don't

1858
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 1: think they I think they can cut him a little

1859
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 1: slack from last year. I think it's a kid from

1860
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: San Diego State. There's that matter. Raisa Riza. I think

1861
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 1: that's the guy I'm thinking of. But yeah, a lot

1862
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: of people have like him mocked to the Patriots in

1863
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 1: like the sixth round, which I can't stand something. Let

1864
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 1: me ask you, guys, So first round, first pick, and

1865
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: you know the Patriots end up taking a linebacker instead

1866
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 1: of a cornerback, You're gonna be upset. Nope, No, all right,

1867
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: So that's all I'm saying. Yeah, but no, But what

1868
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 1: you're saying is you think it will be the right

1869
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 1: move no matter what. Like, if there's a cornerback that

1870
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: I like more than the linebacker that they take, I'll

1871
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: be mad. No, if the guy's a bus, he's a bust,

1872
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 1: you know. No. What I'm saying is if I like, uh,

1873
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley or Trent McDuffie and he's available and they

1874
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: take some linebacker that I don't like as much. You'll

1875
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 1: just say, well piled and they like that. Whoa whoa,

1876
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: whoa whoa, whoa whoa. How many times in our draft

1877
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: show do we have our guy that we think, oh draft,

1878
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, picks coming up? Who do you want? And

1879
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 1: I get upset because they didn't pick my guy I

1880
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: could think of, Justin Jefferson. It happens as many times

1881
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 1: as you. We all have our guys that we really

1882
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: really like Justin Jefferson, and I think he went off

1883
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 1: the board right around when they picked. And they all

1884
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:43,560
Speaker 1: have our guys that we like, and we get disappointed

1885
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 1: when they don't. You get disappointed, and then the next day,

1886
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 1: after you sleep it off, you come back and say,

1887
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, the more I think about it, this was

1888
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: a great pick. You look at it as a whole,

1889
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: and you do a little bit more recent and you

1890
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: get educated, you get educated. You know, rarely do I

1891
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,560
Speaker 1: say get educated education. I rarely say that you do

1892
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: better at the draft. I really say that picks were great,

1893
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,680
Speaker 1: because that's no, you don't know. I'll give you that.

1894
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 1: But you get on one of those guys, you get

1895
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 1: on board with their picks more quickly than some of us. Yeah,

1896
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: I mean I get pumped up. Sure. The other thing

1897
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 1: I like about the seven round mock drafts, Yeah, somehow

1898
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 1: these guys that do that find a way to pick

1899
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: seven guys that you know, oh yeah, right, pick you know,

1900
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,600
Speaker 1: I know, like fifty guys in the draft. Yeah. And

1901
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: somehow I got a guy that I really, I'm intimately

1902
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 1: a like, I know, you know, really well, I scouted

1903
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 1: this guy and I got him at two thirty years.

1904
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 1: I didn't think he'd be there either. Should have gone

1905
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 1: in the second round. He's available in the seventh. Sure,

1906
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: I'll take him. Right. Let's go to Travis and chapel Hill.

1907
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 1: What's up Travis? Hey, guys, Hey, I just got two questions.

1908
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 1: My first. I started listening to you guys right after

1909
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 1: the Detroit game on Sunday night a couple of years ago.

1910
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: You guys were talking about how the Patriots needed to

1911
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: get feed on Deefet. I know that we've drafted players,

1912
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: but we haven't seen the speed yet. On defense, I

1913
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: would agree the defensive bats like Bugger Williams chunk playing

1914
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: linebackers at speed more than the speed that we want.

1915
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 1: Light the Devin white the bush. Yeah. I think it's

1916
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 1: a great question, Travis, and it's one that we've been

1917
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,560
Speaker 1: talking about for a while, um as you just alluded to.

1918
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: But I do think that he values size in the

1919
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 1: middle over speed. I do think that's a philosophical trait

1920
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: that Belichick is He's more interested in the two hundred

1921
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 1: and forty five two hundred and fifty pound linebacker who

1922
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 1: might not be quite as fast as a two hundred

1923
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: and twenty five two hundred and thirty pound linebacker. Yeah.

1924
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: Do you also think that the style or Bill's philosophy

1925
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 1: on defense, especially guys on the edge, hinders them flying

1926
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: around like they're so focused on your job and take

1927
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 1: the instincts out of it, you know, and it makes

1928
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 1: them look slower. Could be you know, could Yeah. So

1929
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, you know, High Tower this year,

1930
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 1: like I know he's slowed down, He's not, but like

1931
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 1: sometimes he just looks like he's you know, you know,

1932
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 1: wasn't the only one either. There are a lot of

1933
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 1: players on defense that we saw looking like statues. Yeah,

1934
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 1: just kind of like that's why I just want to

1935
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 1: see it sort of a changing of the guard. I know,

1936
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I you and I had a long discussion about this

1937
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: during the season. I want to see Ouch. I want

1938
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 1: to see mcgron next year if he's healthy. I want

1939
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 1: to see Ronnie Perkins. I want to see some some

1940
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 1: fresh blood. And if they can't play, let's move on

1941
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 1: and get rid of those guys too. I'm not married

1942
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, but I think that they've sort of

1943
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: capped out the High Tower Collins van Noy iteration of

1944
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 1: the linebacker corps. Yeah, all right, Travis, thanks for calling in.

1945
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: Neil writes in um from New Brunswick. Word, does Fred

1946
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:58,520
Speaker 1: have stock and speed? Queen? Oh my goodness, was embarrassing

1947
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 1: his offseason check list. Tag Jackson, hire an actual coordinator,

1948
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: resign Hoyer, Let High Tower go and draft a wide

1949
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 1: receiver in the first round. Go Ukraine, he says, so

1950
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 1: oh amen to that. Um. Yeah, so he wants to

1951
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: get a in the first round. His whole list, his

1952
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: whole m O there isn't bad. Yeah, listen, I'm I'm

1953
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 1: if they draft a wide receiver or a cornerback or

1954
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: a linebacker in the first round, I'll be thrilled. Yeah,

1955
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 1: you have a lot of positions to choose from in

1956
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 1: terms of can I get it on record, I doubt

1957
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:38,679
Speaker 1: I doubt it. But what would you not be thrilled

1958
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 1: with if they drafted in the first round? Punter? What

1959
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:46,600
Speaker 1: else beside snapper, beside specialist in quarterback? What would you

1960
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 1: not be Okay, that's a good question. Um guard, okay, yeah,

1961
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 1: offensive line yep, But I tackle you. But like I know,

1962
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 1: I know this is people gonna like. I can't believe

1963
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,679
Speaker 1: you said that if they drafted a center, I wouldn't

1964
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 1: be upset about that. That good center. Why you don't

1965
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,759
Speaker 1: like it? You don't like David I think I like Andrews.

1966
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 1: He's good. But if they if there's like this really

1967
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 1: blue chip center, get him? Why because you think that

1968
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: you think that's a vulnerability. No, well, I think he

1969
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 1: can get better. We all talk about run blocking. Where

1970
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 1: did they draft David Andrews? They didn't. Yeah, he was

1971
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 1: an undrafted guy, So why would you take him in

1972
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 1: the first round? Because he's a blue chipper. You know

1973
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 1: this is a guy. I'm talking about, blue chip guy.

1974
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: And how much better is a blue chip center than

1975
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 1: David Andrews? You don't know because you haven't had one. Really,

1976
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 1: they had Damien Woody in the first round. How good

1977
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 1: he was the first rounder. How good? How good a

1978
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 1: run blocking is the Detroit Lions offensive line? Do you think?

1979
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, because they drafted Frank Ragnow in

1980
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 1: the first round a couple of years ago when Matt

1981
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 1: Patricia was there. Okay, did it make a difference to

1982
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 1: the line. I don't know. You don't know. I would

1983
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: be I would say, no, apoplectic. If they drafted an

1984
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 1: interior offensive line. Yeah, I wouldn't do a guard. But

1985
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 1: if like, like a guy that is like that's what

1986
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: he is, Like if it was a tackle and then

1987
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 1: he ended up eventually like moving in like Isaiah Win

1988
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 1: you've always wanted to do. Yeah, Like, I don't think

1989
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 1: I would be pissed off about that. Yeah. But if

1990
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 1: they drafted just a guy who likes a center. But first,

1991
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 1: but if if the I mean at twenty one, but

1992
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 1: if the scouting report isn't I know, scotting reports aren't

1993
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 1: always that, But if the scout report is this guy's

1994
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 1: a sure fire blue chip Hall of Fame candidate, you

1995
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't take him. Nope. I think they got bigger needs

1996
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,600
Speaker 1: bigger because I think the difference between that guy and

1997
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:39,719
Speaker 1: David Andrews is negligible. Yeah, so David Andrews a potential

1998
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. No, I just think he's a good player. Yeah,

1999
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,560
Speaker 1: I think that. By the way, between a Hall of

2000
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: Fame caliber player at a position like that, ye, well,

2001
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,599
Speaker 1: you're at the difference between like a an also ran

2002
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver in a Hall of Fame as enormous golf.

2003
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 1: You have to be really good to get in them.

2004
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't think you're a center away from winning or

2005
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,600
Speaker 1: being competed. Well, you're not. You're nothing away from no

2006
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: team anywhere, every exactly, but that you can say that's

2007
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 1: for the same position, for any position. You're not anything

2008
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: away one position. Yeah, I think you can say that.

2009
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 1: No you can't. We're not a cornerback away from winning

2010
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. No, we're not a wide receiver away

2011
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: from winning. There are teams that are, though you talk

2012
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 1: about us when we're nothing one position, we're not. That's

2013
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: why I wouldn't waste it on a center. Yeah. I

2014
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 1: don't think if the guy's a great player, it's not wasted.

2015
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: It's not wasted like they have. They're nine players away

2016
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 1: from Super Bowl contention, and they draft a center in

2017
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 1: the first round and they become nine players away from that. Yeah,

2018
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 1: I think cornerback, wide receiver, UH, linebacker, tackle, any of

2019
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: those I could see being in the first edge. Edge,

2020
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 1: defensive players, defensive players, like there's a defensive tackle, any

2021
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 1: of those any sort. Right, there's a lot of needs.

2022
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 1: I would not put center on my list of any

2023
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 1: of those needs. Well, Paul class, is there any position

2024
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 1: that you would be? That's the only one he had.

2025
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 1: So it's just basically telling you that whatever they take,

2026
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 1: he's going to be happy. I'm good. I'm okay taking

2027
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: good play See, I won't be happy if they take

2028
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 1: a defense. I'm okay taking really good players. And that's

2029
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 1: in friend's defense. That's his master class right there. He'll

2030
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:22,679
Speaker 1: fall back on they think he's great. I'm obviously gonna

2031
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 1: suppress my disappointment with the position by saying he's a

2032
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 1: really good playoff. When they when they drafted Devin mccordy,

2033
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,680
Speaker 1: I was like, what, Like, I wasn't on board with that,

2034
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 1: but I was, you know, as a quarterback, I was right.

2035
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 1: But as a player for this team for a long time,

2036
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 1: he was absolutely worth the pick, no doubt about it,

2037
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, but he wasn't a cornerback. Well, and that's

2038
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: what they drafted him. In fairness, he made the Pro

2039
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 1: Bowl as a rookie as a cornerback. He did he

2040
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 1: had was in a corner No, yeah, I know that,

2041
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 1: but he was. I mean people thought after his first

2042
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 1: year he was a cornerback. I think that's one of

2043
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 1: the picks that they made that was the most in

2044
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: line mine with conventional wisdom. I think everybody in their

2045
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 1: brother had him going between like twenty five and thirty five. Yeah,

2046
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 1: and that's right where we took him late in the

2047
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: first round, right, Yeah, I forget the number. I think

2048
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: it was thirty, it was, yeah, yeah, it was that

2049
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 1: one of the years coming off of Super Bowl, it

2050
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 1: was somewhere round there. I think that was one of

2051
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: those picks that because he went to Rutgers, people were questioning.

2052
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: And then Bill Bill made the mistake of saying he's

2053
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 1: a four down player, and people like they drafted a

2054
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 1: gunner in the first round, Like, no, that's not what

2055
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 1: he said. Yeah, that's not what Bill said. Here's where

2056
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 1: I will defend Bill. That's not what he said that day.

2057
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a that was a really good pick.

2058
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 1: The time you drafted a guy in the first round,

2059
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 1: and he's part of your franchise for a decade plus.

2060
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,679
Speaker 1: That's a good I beg your pardon. He was twenty seventh,

2061
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, Yeah, okay, that was an off year. Yeah, yeah,

2062
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 1: twenty that was twenty ten, so coming off that loss

2063
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 1: to Baltimore for two thousand and nine season, all right,

2064
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 1: that was one of the worst years in the dynasty. Yeah,

2065
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: um jacket and Abba writes in Jackson is worth paying,

2066
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 1: but he is not worth paying what the market will

2067
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 1: give him. Thank you, he's worth paying, Fred, did you

2068
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 1: just write that email? Thank Jackson for all the great memories.

2069
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 1: He's worth minimum wage and wish him well with his

2070
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:19,799
Speaker 1: next team except when they play the page. He's worth paying,

2071
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 1: just not what he's worth. Yeah, that's what he just said, right,

2072
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:27,560
Speaker 1: He's not worth paying what the market right, what the

2073
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 1: market will pay him is worth's worth worth paying? Means

2074
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 1: what the market he does. He doesn't think the market's

2075
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:35,600
Speaker 1: right for him, so then he's not worth paying what

2076
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: he says. He says, wish him well, right, he says,

2077
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I'm not making fun of that. I'm

2078
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 1: just saying, like, you don't think he's worth paying exactly. Yeah,

2079
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 1: like you. I mean, it'd be great if I could

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Speaker 1: get you know, Jay Z Jackson for five million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I think in five years, five millions, I think. I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for Jack in an Aba,

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01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,719
Speaker 1: but he'd probably say he's worth paying like fifteen millions,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's I don't think so, based

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Speaker 1: on the way he's say that email. Yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: think it's worth fifteen, but what's a couple of million

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Speaker 1: more eighteen? Yeah, Zach writes in from Brighton. I wrote

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01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:12,640
Speaker 1: in last week regarding Jac to the Eagles for a

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Speaker 1: first round trade. Freddy agree that at first for Jac

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01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 1: is asking a lot. But would you include a pick

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Speaker 1: to get that trade done? So we give them Jac

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01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 1: and a pick for their first round? What pick? I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because they have three picks in the first round, the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: JC and what pick. I don't know. The third round.

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Speaker 1: You do it if you might be able to get,

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01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: you might be able to get what I do it.

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01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 1: If I were the Eagles, now, yeah, but I would

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01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:44,600
Speaker 1: I would just draft a cornerback in the first round. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that taking a cornerback, giving up a

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Speaker 1: first round pick and paying them one hundred million dollars

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01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 1: is worth it for another team. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be very right interesting to see where Jackson lands,

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01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,759
Speaker 1: you know, like who ends up paying him? Like Philly

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01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 1: has three first round picks, Why would you trade one

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01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 1: so you can get a cornerback that you then have

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01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 1: to pay all this money? Wouldn't it just make more

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01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 1: sense to well? I guess you could make the argument

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Speaker 1: with one of those first round picks. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: somebody I'm absolutely sure of. You know, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: a cornerback who's gonna start a day one, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be sure that he's going to be really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's something to be said there, you know.

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Speaker 1: But it's not just the difference. I know, and you

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Speaker 1: have to pay him. Yeah, I get it, I get it,

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01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 1: but it's far more damaging. But it's what do you

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01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 1: mean damaging? Like I have to not only give up

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01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 1: a first round pick, I have to give up first

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01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,480
Speaker 1: round pick and money and it costs you more. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But I give up a first round pick and he

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01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 1: just plays. But if you think he's a's not gonna

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01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 1: kill me unless he's a bust. Yeah, But if you

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01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 1: think he's a sure thing, then okay, cornerback solved. You know,

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01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you think he's worth the money,

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01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 1: then you do it. Somebody's gonna pay him, Yeah, but no,

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01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 1: someone will pay him. But I don't think someone's gonna

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01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 1: pay him and give a first round pick. Yeah, that's

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01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 1: the part of the equation that I don't agree with.

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01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 1: I think if he goes to the open market, someone

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01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: will absolutely pay him. I don't I don't really have

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01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 1: much doubt about that someone will pay him. But asking

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01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 1: someone to give a first round pick and pay him, now,

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01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 1: I have doubts about that. I don't think he's that

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01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 1: kind of player. Vashon from New York. Hey, guys, how

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Speaker 1: would you rank our offseason needs? We've kind of talked

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01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 1: about that. I would say tackle is the number one.

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01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 1: As I think Brown and Win are on their way out,

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01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 1: I think we let Jac walk as well. In that

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01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 1: we draft a corner in the second round and linebacker

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01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 1: in the third. How would you guys feel if the

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01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: Patriots went in that direction. I would rather the cornerback

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01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 1: in the first round because cornerbacks in the second round

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01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 1: are and I each a short thing. Wouldn't you say

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01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 1: that that's when you get Sorry. The majority of fans

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01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 1: that we're hearing from are like, let him go, Jac.

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01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 1: I would say, it's about fifty fifty. Yeah, it's pretty

2146
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 1: pretty split. Yeah. I think some people want to just

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01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 1: they don't want to lose the commodity, sure, you know,

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01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: and they think that makes the defense that much worse. Yep,

2149
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: something that this is Christian writing in which one none

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01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 1: of the above. Something that hasn't really had a lot

2151
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 1: of traction or been talked about a lot is linebackers.

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01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 1: In your opinion, which is more important, linebackers or the secondary.

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01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 1: If I had it my way, I'd work with Jac

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01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 1: to try and get something done, even though it might

2155
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 1: be a waste of time. But if you cut him,

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01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 1: as the famous words of Megan would do, get it.

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01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 1: But if you cut him as the famous words of

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01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 1: Megan would do, I don't know what that means. Get

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01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 1: an affordable, decent replacement for Jac and try and get

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01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 1: a good, slash, quick size linebacker then can stop the

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01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 1: run and cover if asked to do so. I think

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01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: it's tough for to find the cornerback. I think a

2163
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 1: lot of the I'd rather have the corner I think

2164
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 1: a lot of our listeners take your train of thought

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01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 1: for it, Like, we'll just get a replacement for jac Jackson.

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01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 1: That's that's decent and affordable. Okay, Oh why didn't I

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01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: think of that, like the risk of letting jac Jackson?

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01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 1: I said, franchise. No, no, no, I'm saying in general,

2169
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 1: like whatever the Patriots do was right, Like if it

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01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 1: was that easy, then you would let everybody go because

2171
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 1: you can automatically automatic everybody, right, Like, why would you

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01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 1: ever pay eighteen million dollars for what you can get

2173
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 1: for six million dollars? Yea, like you can sign some

2174
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 1: like was it is it Generius sneed from Kansas City

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01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 1: that everybody wants Snead the cornerback from the Chiefs. I

2176
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 1: don't know if he's as good as J. C. Jackson.

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01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if he is comparable and a better

2178
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 1: player for the value if you end up signing him

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01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 1: to a more affordable contract. But we could just say, like, well,

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01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: you just get a decent cornerback. Well, that doesn't make

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01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 1: you good, right with J. C. Jackson? Your secondary wasn't

2182
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 1: good enough down the stretch. It was great during the

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01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 1: year when you were playing bad teams, but when you

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01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 1: when the rubber hit the road at the end of

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01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 1: the year, you couldn't stop anybody, and now you're losing

2186
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 1: the best player off of that to replace with somebody

2187
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 1: quote decent see I I'd franchise him and draft a

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01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 1: cornerback in the first round. That's what I posed today

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01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: in the notes. That would be the option. If you're

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01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 1: gonna franchise him, you still got a draft one. Yeah,

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01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 1: Bill and Vista, California. Any thoughts on the rumors of

2192
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 1: trading a second round pick for Calvin Ridley? Is that

2193
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 1: a rumor? Has that been talking? A lot of people

2194
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 1: have been talking about her for a couple of months.

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01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't I would do it. I don't know for

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01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 1: sure that that's what would get it done. If you're

2197
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 1: the Falcons, Wow, we're up against it already. I know,

2198
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 1: Quick show. I couldn't. I can't believe Rick Show. Wow.

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01:57:57,760 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would absolutely be in favor of trading

2200
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 1: a second round pick for assuming that Calvin Ridley is,

2201
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 1: assuming that he's mentally ready to play Sean and Maine.

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01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 1: I think J. C. Jackson is a better version of

2203
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 1: Logan Ryan. I would like to keep him at top ten.

2204
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 1: Money but not top five. If Belichick wants to pay him, Okay,

2205
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 1: if not, it will hurt. But I will trust Belichick,

2206
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 1: Sean and May and Fred and Fox World. I actually no,

2207
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 1: but I give him credit. He's telling you I trust

2208
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 1: I trust Belichick, Like put your cards on the table

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01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:28,960
Speaker 1: before you. I say that with the same thing with you.

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01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 1: Actually you're a master class. I say, I trust b

2211
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: and you I trust Be. My point is, don't tell

2212
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: me after the fact. I'm telling you right now. I

2213
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 1: trust them. I'm sorry for you said that you think

2214
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 1: that they should tag you. I do, and if they don't,

2215
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's a mistake. Okay, okay, but you

2216
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 1: can see you can do that and still trust Bill. Yeah,

2217
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to tell. So when they don't

2218
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: tag him, no, you're going to be upset or not.

2219
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like, you know, resign, But I think

2220
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 1: that I think they should like the draft. I think

2221
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 1: they should do that, like seventeen point three million. That's

2222
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:11,840
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a bargain for one year more of it,

2223
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 1: based on what people are saying. More mistake that they

2224
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: let him go or Sony Michelle, Oh yeah, come on now,

2225
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 1: you're just showing your ignorance. I'm asking you. I'm asking you.

2226
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 1: One's been up in arms for the better part of

2227
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:31,120
Speaker 1: a year up in arms. Yes, okay, Yeah, I like Sony.

2228
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 1: I like Sony when he was here, and I like

2229
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 1: him now. You know, I stick with it. I don't

2230
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 1: change my tune after she usually Yes, you do usually

2231
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 1: when they're not. I didn't, you don't here. And I

2232
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:43,080
Speaker 1: don't think he did anything for the Rams. I've not

2233
01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 1: changed my team. He helped the Rams, he did, No,

2234
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 1: he didn't, he did, ask asked the Rams. Yeah, we'll

2235
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 1: see what the Rams think. They'll have an opportunity to

2236
01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:57,720
Speaker 1: retain them. We'll see what they do. Well. Dude's gonna

2237
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,160
Speaker 1: get his second Super Bowl ring though. Yeah, sure is

2238
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 1: good for him. It's delicious. Ever hear that coin of

2239
02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: commercial when he's got the jazz hands, It's delicious. God,

2240
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 1: you don't remember that it's to air on our program

2241
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Speaker 1: all the time. No, And I'm pretty sure that we're

2242
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble if we keep going. All right,

2243
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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