1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Suxton Show podcast. Welcome back in final hour of the week. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Fourteen hours up, one to go. I hope you guys 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: have managed to hang out with us for a lot 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: of them. It has been an incredibly, incredibly news centric week, 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: so many different things that we have discussed. If you 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: missed the first couple hours of today's program, Senator Rand 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Paul was on with us an hour one. He was fantastic. 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: Art Lapper, the famous economist was on with us in 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: the second hour. He was also extraordinarily good. And we're 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: set to be joined by Ian Miller, who I think 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: many of you are going to really enjoy if you 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: are active on social media. He does incredible work analyzing 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: COVID data pointing out how masks and vaccine mandates have 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: completely and totally failed. Speaking of which, Buck, I'm down 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: in the Free State of Florida. You are still wearing 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: your scarf, trapped in your apartment as you attempt to 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: recover from omicron. Do you feel, by the way back 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: to one hundred percent? Excuse me, sir, how do you 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: not know this isn't my ready to go face covering 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: at a moment's notice. You think it's a starf but 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: it could very quickly turn into a fauci anxiety napkin 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: at a moment's notice. And therefore I am compliant with 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: all this idiocy that does nothing to stop the virus. 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: But I am prepared, sir. I feel fine. I keep 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: calling it whimpy cron. It's not that bad. It's not 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: that bad compared to you, because I had I was 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: fortunate neither time that I had COVID. I had it 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: in November twenty twenty, and I just had what we 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: believe is the omicron version last week. I'm back one 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: hundred percent. You feel like this version because you had 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: it pretty severe the first time, this version of COVID. 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't. You and I both had really 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: bad colds. People could hear it on the radio in November. 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: It was not COVID. This is a pale approximation, even 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: of that cold we had earlier in the winter fall. Right, Oh, 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: it was the whatever that upper respiratory thing is that 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: people listening to the show. No, you had it then, 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: I had it, not even we haven't even seen it 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: run in the same city. But it was spreading all 41 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: across the country. That was way worse three I've had 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: here with omicron. I just there's there's something funky going 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: on here because they say it's all omicron across the country, 44 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: and they say it's far less lethal. But we have 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: eighteen hundred deaths a day. So our eighteen hundred people 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: a day dying from omicron? Is that what we're supposed 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: to believe, because that doesn't seem like it's far far 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: less lethal than delta. So is it the five percent 49 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: of cases that are still out there that are delta 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: are causing ninety five percent? But I'm making up those numbers. 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: I oh no, No, You're asking a really significant question, 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: which is, if omicron is so much less deadly, how 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: is it that we are still having nearly two thousand 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: deaths a day attributed to COVID. I think one answer 55 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: is a lot of those deaths are not COVID deaths, right, 56 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: And we're starting to see if if the state of 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: New York, for instance, is going to come out and say, hey, 58 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: half of the people that are roughly half of the 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: people that are hospitalized for COVID are there with COVID, 60 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: meaning they weren't actually being hospitalized with COVID, and I 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: think Buck, what you're going to see is there's going 62 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: to be more and more of an examination of these numbers, because, 63 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: as you're pointing out, if omicron, which is reportedly ninety 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: eight or ninety nine percent of all COVID infections, now, 65 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: if it is actually the cause of these people being 66 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: in the hospital, then you wouldn't expect for COVID death 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: rates to continue to be around two thousand a day, 68 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: which is where we are right now. I mean, I 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: think I saw what wasn't the most Do you remember 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: what the when they kind of amplified they took a 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: look at what the mortality mortality rate was of delta 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: COVID versus omicron. I think it was at least considered 73 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: ten times less lethal, right, wasn't that something along those 74 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: lines based on the early data. Again, folks, I'm going 75 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: off of memory. There's a lot of numbers changing, So 76 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: please don't take that as as gospel, but I'm just 77 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: trying to I mean, they definitely said for a while 78 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: that South African epidemiologist who discovered omicron, the initial data 79 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: was that nobody was dying in South Africa from omicron 80 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: they were only dying from delta. So there's there's just 81 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: some things. Here were the numbers that don't add up. 82 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: And you know, Clay I had mentioned before when we 83 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: had Senator rand Paul on this, and I just wanted 84 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: to remind folks about it because I think this is 85 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: I think this is going to end up being very, 86 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: very significant. But there is data from the General Hospital 87 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: of San Francisco, a very a very big, very serious 88 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: medical institution that suggests that we're not getting the full 89 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: picture here of what's really happening with COVID infections and 90 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: mortality across the country. Here's what he put out on 91 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: his sub stack. Did you see the sub stack what 92 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about about it? Yeah, seventy two percent. This again, 93 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: this is Alex Barrinson's. But has anyone ever said his 94 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: data is wrong? Folks, you ever had him had to 95 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: come on and say, yeah, those numbers, those were fraudulent numbers. 96 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: Never happened, at least not that I'm aware of. Seventy 97 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: two percent of COVID patients at San Francisco General Hospital 98 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 1: are vaccinated, Okay, twenty six percent of them, so almost 99 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: a third are boosted and the total numbers he has 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: for COVID positive patients for San Francisco General Hospital nineteen unvaccinated, 101 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: thirty two vaccinated with the first two doses, eighteen boosted 102 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: and COVID positive but not admitted for COVID twenty three. 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: There's no way this pandemic of the unvaccinated thing that 104 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: the numbers don't add up, Clay, it just doesn't add up. 105 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Rand Paul basically said, how many seniors are 106 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: they're out there who are on vaccinated At this point, 107 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: we've been advocating for every senior to get vaccinated, and 108 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: it's what is it now? Over ninety five percent roughly 109 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: if people over sixty five are unvaccinated and Buck, I 110 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: want to play this cut from Fauci, But what's interesting 111 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: going on right now is you have an acknowledgment from 112 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: the CDC, which they refused to talk about forever, that 113 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: natural immunity, starting in October of twenty twenty one was 114 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: better at protecting people from severe outcomes from the delta 115 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: strain than was the COVID vaccine. And you've already had 116 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: the Fizer CEO come out and say, hey, basically, the 117 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: first and second shot of our COVID vaccine provides limited, 118 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: if any protection against omicron, And so now you've got 119 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: Fauci is suddenly optimistic, Buck, And maybe this is just 120 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: Faucci recognizing I thought it was really interesting. An hour one, 121 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: what did Rand Paul tell us Buck? He said that 122 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: he thought Fauci would resign as soon as the mid 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: terms happened, because he would know that with Republicans back 124 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: control in the House and back in control potentially in 125 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: the Senate, that he was going to be grilled on 126 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: all of the improprieties involving his gain of function, research, 127 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: American tax dollars, his relationships with China. That he thought 128 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: he would run for the hills by November of twenty 129 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: twenty two. But it's interesting because if you listen to 130 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: this clip in conjunction with what Rand Paul just said, 131 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: it's like Fauci is starting to think, Hey, maybe I 132 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: can claim victory and go ahead and retire. And this 133 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: time he's citing natural immunity. I don't remember this ever 134 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: happening before as one of the reasons for his optimism. 135 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Listen to this part the combination of vaccinated and boosted 136 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: people and the protection afforded by prior infection will have 137 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: a level of protection in the community so that you 138 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: won't get the situation where there's enough activity which leads 139 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: to hospitalizations, debts, and stressing the healthcare system, which in 140 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: fact answers a bit of your first question, what about omicron? 141 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: If you get infected, can you get infected again? Sure, 142 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: there are reinfections, but it is unlikely that if you 143 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: mount a good immune response, it is extremely unlikely that 144 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: you will be reinfected with the same variant. So Fauci 145 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: suddenly finds natural immunity and recognizes that it's likely to 146 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: lead us out of what has been a two year 147 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: absurdity of constant cycles of masking up and unmasking, and 148 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: then your kids can't be in school and lockdowns and 149 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: you have to wear and behave in this manner. I 150 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: really do believe that if omicron is spreading as we 151 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: believe it is, that by the summer, it's going to 152 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: be hard to justify very many restrictions at all, and 153 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: we might be right back to where we were in 154 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: May of twenty twenty one, when you remember, with great fanfare, 155 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: the CDC came out and said, if you get the vaccine, 156 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: you no longer have to wear masks, and that fun 157 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: lasted what buck about sixty days before they came back 158 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: and said, actually put mass on again. Yeah, And I 159 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: think this is the problem and Democrats are going to 160 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: run into in the midterms. They're gonna want to make 161 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: it seem like they've beaten the virus. They're gonna want 162 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: to go with the we're past it now narrative. But 163 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: in the background, they're not going to get rid of 164 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: masks on planes. I can tell you that, not before 165 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: the midterms, no, sir, because they still have their base 166 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: terrified about all this stuff. I mean irrationally terrified of COVID. 167 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: And I think what we've seen, Clay, is that no 168 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: matter what the vaccination schedule is, no matter what the 169 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: level of shots is, there's likely to be a COVID variant. Now, look, 170 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: maybe there's a COVID variant next year that's even less 171 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: concerning and super contagious, but less you know, that would 172 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: be a good thing and fine, but we could have 173 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: it just a version of what we already have now, 174 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: which is a new a new kind of omicron. I 175 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: guess what comes My Greek alphabet's not so good. I 176 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, were you in a fraternity I 177 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: was for a little while. It's is it the SI? 178 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: I think it would be CI, right, look at you 179 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: with the I think I'm correct. I think that's right. 180 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: I could be totally wrong, but I think we would 181 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: go from O to the Greek P right, which would 182 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: be SI. Yeah. So so if we go to the 183 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: SI virus. Uh, then it's gonna be exactly. You know, 184 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: people are gonna get the shots and they're gonna say, 185 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: oh what hell, it's the flu protocol is what we're 186 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: going to be going through. But people still haven't been 187 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: willing to accept that that's where we are. Flu shots 188 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: work somewhat not great, they help, They're worth it for seniors. 189 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: This is the world we gotta be living in. But 190 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in this, and I know I am. 191 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: I am an anti mask fundamentalist. Like I will say, 192 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: I will join you, I will join you, and have 193 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: been for a long time as well, like I'm that's right. 194 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: And we're we're two of the original we're some of 195 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: the original gangsters here for the Anti Mask Crew. We're 196 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: anti mask one point. Oh yeah, well, I mean we 197 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: had I should go back in the archives. How do 198 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: you want? I want to Certainly in April of twenty twenty, 199 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: you're on my radio show and I'm like, click, Travis, 200 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: sports guy. You know this is going on? What's going on? 201 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: You're like, Yeah, this is crap. Why are people wearing masks? 202 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Doesn't make sense until people finally just realize how stupid 203 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: that is. All of this doesn't go away when when 204 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: everyone finally says, we're not masking up anymore. We're not 205 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: doing this because it's the constant psychological reminder for everybody 206 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: they see people with masks, gotta be scared, Gonna be scared, 207 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: Gonna be scared. It factors into all of the decision 208 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: making and all the public psychology about this virus. And 209 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, other societies, other countries maybe have had this 210 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: going on for a long time. Those are much more 211 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: compliant society. Folks. You know you're living in China. Mask 212 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: wearing is the least of your problems when it comes 213 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: to state tyranny, No doubt. 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Trying 242 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: to suppress American votes has been going on since the 243 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: founding of this country. That's not what we're saying, Jake. 244 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: People should be confident in the protections that we are 245 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: going to continue to enforce. But also we know it's 246 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: not long ago history. It is a recent history. When 247 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: the former president tried to overturn the outcome. That is 248 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: different than the effort to suppress the vote. We need 249 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: to fight against both. We need to ensure we're using 250 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: every tool at our disposal. Obviously a lot of those 251 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: would be through the Democratic National Committee, and a lot 252 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: of those are going to be through local efforts. And 253 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: that's what the President was attempting to speak to. You know, 254 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: their narrative doesn't make any sense. Can we just let 255 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: let's dive in this for a second. That was Taper 256 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: over on CNN asking, asking a real question and welcome 257 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: back the klan Buck Show. Let's take a look at 258 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: this for a second. They're telling us Clay that unless 259 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: dramatic changes are made, I just want to put this 260 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: in and then we do have to talk about the 261 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: upgraded or updated I should say M and m's I 262 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: wanted to get to that now, but I got my 263 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: cutsheet confused here for a second, their argument seems to be, 264 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: and this is why they're having so much trouble now 265 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: selling this to the public. Forget about the fact that 266 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: they were never going to really pass this and that 267 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: it was all for show because they're not going to 268 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: get the filibuster change and they knew that. But they're 269 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: really emotionally, it seems, and politically invested in this narrative 270 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: of protecting voting rights. They're the ones that want to 271 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: make dramatic changes to existing voting laws that have been 272 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: in place for you know, depending on the law we're 273 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: talking about for decades, right that it's been the way 274 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: that things are going, talking about when early voting occurs, 275 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: talking about voter id to all these different things. And 276 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: so they say, if you don't do what we want 277 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, maybe we can't really trust this election is legitimate. Well, 278 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: if that's their pitch clay for this fall, how is 279 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: it that they can tell us that they accept all 280 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: the previous elections where they're preferred changes weren't actually made. It. 281 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't hold water, doesn't hold up. What we need 282 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: Buck is an absolute ass kicking in twenty twenty two 283 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty four, where it's not an in the 284 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: margin election, right, because the truth of the matter is 285 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: when the election is really close, and we've had a 286 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: lot of really close elections over the past really twenty 287 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: first century. In fact, the only real election that I 288 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: remember happening in the twenty first century where people said, yeah, 289 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: I think that wasn't really in question was Obama McCain. Right. 290 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: Obama won by enough over John McCain that nobody was like, hey, 291 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: we need to go look at the specifics in this 292 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: individual state. But if you look back Gore Bush, supertight 293 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Bush against Carry, that John Carry and the Democrats, they 294 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: argued about what happened in Ohio, Right, they argued that 295 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: one was close. Then you had Obama Romney, which came 296 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: down to a couple of states. People argued about that 297 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: Trump and Hillary, certainly Trump and Biden. What really I 298 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: think is the essence of all these arguments over elections 299 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: is when you lose closely, you can look at the 300 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: data and figure out a reason why you were wronged. Right, 301 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, everybody argues that 302 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: they actually won unless they get their ass kicked. And 303 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: that's why we need I really mean this buck in 304 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and in twenty twenty four. It needs 305 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: to be such a thorough ass kicking. You know, nobody 306 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: argued about the election results in nineteen eighty four when 307 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan destroyed Walter Mondale. Right, everybody's like, well, you 308 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: know what, this was a crushing Nobody argued in eighty 309 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: eight when George H. W. Bush took it to Michael Decoccus. 310 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: I don't really remember arguments at ninety two or ninety six. 311 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: What we really have to have is just a real win, 312 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: a win that is not disputable in the margins, based 313 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: on a few thousand votes in an election state. And 314 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: that's where I think we need to be sooner rather 315 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: than later. I mean that I totally agree by the way, 316 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: we have to win by so much that it's not 317 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: something that could reasonably be questioned, because if it can, 318 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: they will, and they'll just use it as a political 319 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: weapon in the most cynical fashion, which is what they've 320 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: done in the past anyway, But this time around, I'm 321 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: with you. They got to get crushed. It can't be close. 322 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: Audience has been generous. We appreciate all of you for 323 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: supporting Tunnel to the Towers. 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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. 339 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: I hope all of you are having fantastic Fridays. Hope 340 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: you're gonna have spectacular Weekend's gonna go check out NFL 341 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: playoff game in my hometown of Nashville. Cincinnati Bengals coming 342 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: to town taking the boys. Hopefully the Titans can win 343 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: a game. We bring in now Ian Miller, who I 344 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: found online because he does such incredible data analysis and graphs. 345 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: He's at Ian m SC. I just tweeted out his handle. 346 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: If you are active on social media, I encourage you 347 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: to follow him. Ian. You take a great deal of 348 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: glee in pointing out the absurdity of mask and vaccine 349 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: mandates in terms of stopping the spread of COVID. In 350 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: any way, when did you start to make these graphs? 351 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: And how much viewership have your graphs gotten over time? 352 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: Do you have any real idea you're doing the Lord's 353 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: work here and sharing this stuff. Well, thank you very much. 354 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: I started doing it. I would say last summer when 355 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: it really took off. I know it's it's the numbers 356 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: are pretty crazy. You on Twitter has a shows you 357 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: with the analytics and it's you know, it's tens of 358 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: millions of views per month, which is fantastic. And I 359 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: know it's gotten into the hands of some some very 360 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: influential political people, leaders and politicians. So I've been very 361 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: humbled and grateful that it's it's done as well as 362 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: that has ian. You know, we've got this this book 363 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: out this week, Unmasked, the Global Failure of COVID mask Mandates. 364 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: That's like one of my favorite book titles I've been 365 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: able to read out loud in a long time because, 366 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: as I was just describing, I am an anti masking fanatic. 367 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: I think that this is insane and horrifying, and it's 368 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: a mass hysteria and has been from the very beginning. 369 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: What are some of them mean? What? You know, as 370 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, this is still highly contentious, and there are 371 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: a lot of people who think of themselves is very smart. 372 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: They're not, but they have big perches in the media 373 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: and in government who still take it as effectively settled 374 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: science that mask men dates work. You've got this book, 375 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: Unmasked you're looking at all the data, just give us 376 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: some of your best stuff. I mean, what are some 377 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: of your best punches at the Fauci mask madness? Right? Well, 378 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: I think one of the best examples is in California, 379 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: where you know, you have Los Angeles, which has been 380 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: as devoted to this as anybody, and Los Angeles has 381 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: essentially been under a mask mandate since April twenty twenty 382 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: and has some of the highest, you know, COVID case 383 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: rates in the world, death rates in the world as well, 384 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: and people. The La County Public Health Department just recently 385 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: put out a press release saying that they've measured businesses 386 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: went around it had ninety five plus some people were 387 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: wearing masks, and La reported one of the highest individual 388 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: case rates that we've seen anywhere in the United States recently. 389 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: So they're measuring it as everybody's wearing it. It's still 390 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: not working. The numbers are still skyrocketing through the roof, 391 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: and there's and there's many examples of that. But that's 392 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: one of my favorites, just because we know for a 393 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: fact that everybody's complying here in California and it's it's 394 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: not working. So if it's not working we saw in England, 395 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: and you can say, well, it's because Boris Johnson is 396 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: under a great deal of political pressure, but it's almost 397 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: like that pressure gave him the confidence to finally do 398 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: what the data has shown him for a long time, 399 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: which is to eliminate their national mask mandate and also 400 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: to eliminate their vaccine passports. The data is the exact same, 401 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: if not more so, in the United States. When will 402 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: any politician on the Democratic side of the aisle, in 403 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: your opinion, based on what you are seeing, actually have 404 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: the confidence to say anything similar to what Boris Johnson said, 405 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: it's a great question. I don't know that it's going 406 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: to happen anytime soon. I Jared Polis from Colorado was 407 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: the closest, and he basically said, you know, other states 408 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: have done this, We're not seeing better results there. It 409 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: requires the willingness to kind of admit that everything that 410 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: they were doing for the last two years didn't work 411 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: and never worked, and that is very tougher polititians to do. 412 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: And I think Boris Johnson had the you know, he 413 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: was getting criticism from his own side of the aisle, 414 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: and unfortunately Democrats are not criticizing each other. You know, 415 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: they're not saying we should end masks made, if they're 416 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: just doing more of it. There's now it's we're going 417 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: to send four hundred million and ninety five masks out there, 418 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: which will be just as useless as the other ones. 419 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: And you know, for following a twies you know, I've 420 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: posted Germany already does this. They already have in ninety 421 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: five man dates in cases there are at record highs 422 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: right now. So I don't know when that's going to happen. 423 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: I hope it's soon, but I don't I don't see 424 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: it happening anytime ten right now. Ian. That's that's very 425 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: interesting because you know, early on some of the masks studies, 426 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: if anyone actually bothered to read studies of that are 427 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: on the CDC website and we're peer reviewed. Control studied 428 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: mask mask situations. It showed that cloth masks are essentially 429 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: against whether it's measles or the flu, cloth masks or 430 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: a joke, they don't really do anything. But there was 431 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: always this belief that we'll end ninety five masks because 432 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: unlike cloth masks, at least the basic aerodynamics and mechanics 433 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: of this might line up right that the opening in 434 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: the mask fibers is small enough that a virus wouldn't 435 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: freely pass through it. But it sounds like what you're 436 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: telling me is that even in Germany, where they did 437 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: the N ninety five mask mandate upgrade, which is currently 438 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: fashionable among fauciites in America, that it didn't do there 439 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: was no discernible difference in case caseload in Germany after 440 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: the N ninety five masks. Is that right? That's correct, 441 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: And you can go and look and a couple of 442 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: their provinces or excuse me, states already you know, had 443 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: N ninety five mandates and some only had surgical grade 444 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 1: mask mandates, and the ones with the surgical mask mandates 445 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: have done better than those with the N ninety five mandates. 446 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: There's just no difference. And we've seen this play out 447 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: all over the world. But it's even when when you 448 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: compare a real world data. And obviously a lot of 449 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: these studies are you know, we're very well done, but 450 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: some are also just mechanistic lab studies where oh, we 451 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: think it might work in the lab, but the when 452 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: you get into the real world, if it's not fitted properly, 453 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: it's still going to have their results leaking out from 454 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: the sides, and so it's not totally surprising. But in 455 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: the real world that hasn't made any difference at all. 456 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: We're talking to Ian Miller. We encourage you to go 457 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: check out his book which is Unmasked, a Global Failure 458 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: of COVID mask mandates. Also you can check him out 459 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: read his sub stack Unmasked, which is also fantastic at 460 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: Ian m sc on Twitter. So we know that we 461 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: have failed. We know that many Western democracies have failed 462 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: in our response to COVID. Who has done the best job? 463 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: Which country? Based on you look a lot of this 464 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: data and analyze so many different countries based on what 465 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: you've seen, who's done the best job maintaining normalcy while 466 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: still responding in some way to COVID. What was the 467 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: optimal response country that you could point to. The obvious 468 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: answer would be Sweden. I think that they've done the 469 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: best job. They haven't been perfect, and their their leaders 470 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: would tell you, you you know, we made some mistakes early 471 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: on with nursing homes, but you know, they never mandated mass, 472 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: they never enforced mask usage, they didn't have strict lockdowns. 473 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: It was much more voluntary you know, some capacity women's 474 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: things like that. They tried as much to keep normal 475 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: life going without making COVID the sole focus of all 476 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: of their policy, and I think they succeeded. And the 477 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: results show that, you know, and I posted you write 478 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: about it in the book, but they're in the right now. 479 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: I think they're around sixtieth in the world in immortality rate, 480 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: which is unexceptional, I mean much the countries that did lockdowns, 481 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: like Peru and mass Mandates. Peru is the highest death 482 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: rate in the world, and so they've disrupted their their 483 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: social life, that disrupted their economic life. Did all the 484 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: mass mandates in the lockdowns and had significantly worse results, 485 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: whereas Sweden tried to avoid all that. They've really followed 486 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: all of the guidance pre COVID what they said to do, 487 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: and it worked out just fine for them. They did, 488 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: they did just fine. I want to know something and 489 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: you get a lot of you know, one of the 490 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: things that's been interesting for both Clay and me, this 491 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: entire pandemic or the doctors who will reach out behind 492 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: the scenes and say, you know, I can't say this 493 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: publicly because they'll go after my license or my hospital 494 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: will take away my privileges and all this stuff. But 495 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, what you guys said about x or y, 496 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: usually in criticism of Fauci, is true, and a lot 497 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: of our colleagues in the medical community know it's true. 498 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what that's been like for you as a guy. 499 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: It's just very busy. You have this very direct approach 500 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: of the data. You know, you're just using the actual 501 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: CDC numbers and data and visual and letting people visualize 502 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: a by putting out these graphs. Do you have a 503 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: lot of medical people reaching out to you, and also 504 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: do you have people who reach out to you and 505 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: say who are mds? Who say, wow, you know now 506 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: that I see this, masks really don't do a damn thing. Yeah, 507 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: that has happened. It is surprising. And I think one 508 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: thing people forget is that a lot of times doctors, 509 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're busy, there's some patience, they're working, 510 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: they're not really looking at a lot of the data. 511 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: And a lot of times the doctors that we see 512 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: on Twitter that are just kind of parroting the Faucie narrative, 513 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, they're just repeating what influential people are saying. 514 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: They don't really go and look at the actual research 515 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: themselves very often. So it has been gratifying to hear 516 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: people that said, you know, I didn't really look at this. 517 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: I just kind of listen to what everybody else was saying. 518 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: But now seeing it, I understand it's not working, and 519 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to incorporate that into my own practice or 520 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, and I've got people reach out about contributing 521 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: to lawsuits and things like that. So it's been really 522 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: gratifying to hear from people and validating to hear that 523 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: a lot of experts do agree with this, and they 524 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: just can't feel they can't speak out publicly for fear 525 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: of retribution, which is just insane. Well, the book is 526 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: Unmasked the Global Failure of COVID mask Mandates. I'm going 527 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: to get a copy and just keep it on my wall, 528 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, keep it right there, just because I hate 529 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: these mask mandates. Ian Miller, everybody check them out. Ian 530 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: MSc on Twitter, I thank you so much, Thank you. 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Welcome back to the final 555 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: segment this week of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 556 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: If you missed any of it, by the way, please 557 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: go check out and subscribe to the Clay end Buck podcast. 558 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: And also you can go to the Clay and Buck 559 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: website at Klayinbuck dot com for transcripts and news stories 560 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: that we talk about, and at Buck Sexton dot com. 561 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: I made the pitch that Biden's year two is going 562 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: to be even worse than an op ed. You can 563 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: check that out. And the out kick story. I'm throwing everything, 564 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: throwing and everything out there on Leah Thomas versus the 565 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: other transgender swimmer and was their collusion behind the scenes. 566 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: So some weekend reading for all of you there, go 567 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: check all that out. And Ireland, Ireland now joining the 568 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: freedom movement, it seems here from fauciit mats just breaking now. 569 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: The country of Ireland is scrapping almost all of its 570 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen restrictions tomorrow. They're getting rid of and by 571 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: the way, Ireland was a super high vaccination country, incredibly 572 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: strict about lockdowns. They are getting rid of vaccine passports, 573 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: capacities all at full i mean sorry, venues all at 574 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: full capacity. They're gonna require masks on public transport, but 575 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: only until February, and then they're gonna drop that too, 576 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: So it's all and they're saying the excitement is palpable, 577 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: where it's all going away. Clay, this is what a 578 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: rational response to the massive failure of faucism would be 579 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, which is just it didn't work, guys, 580 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: stop the crazy crap. It didn't work. I think this 581 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: is what Biden's going to have to do in July 582 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: or August, in advance of the mid terms. I think 583 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to declare victory against COVID, say it's 584 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: time to go back to normalcy and take the hits 585 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: that he gets from the left wing anxiety crowd. And 586 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: let me give people that first of all, that news 587 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: from Ireland is fantastic because paired with England, that's two 588 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: Western democracies making rational decisions surrounding COVID, which is two 589 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: more almost than we've had for a long time. I 590 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: flew down here to Florida, and I'm looking forward again 591 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: for our event with WFSX, our affiliate down here in 592 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: Fort Myers, Southwest Florida. But I flew down here Buck 593 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: and the first flight that I have taken since the 594 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: mask mandate happened. They didn't make any comments on my 595 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: Southwest Airlines flight about needing to keep your masks up. 596 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: Not one, no flight attendant, no announcement, no policing of 597 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: it as you walked up and down the line. Now, 598 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: maybe that was just a very lenient crew that I 599 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: happened to have. But the other thing that I noticed, Buck, 600 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: have you seen this where when they go around either 601 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: they were stopping giving out snacks right for a long time, 602 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: They're like, well whatever. And then on Southwest, and I 603 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,239 Speaker 1: fly Southwest Airlines a lot, they would walk up with 604 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: like a piece of cardboard and they would say just 605 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: hold up your finger for one, two, three, or four 606 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: for whatever drink you wanted, And there were only four options, 607 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: and they were like, they don't even want you to talk. 608 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: It was like you just WoT to hold up a finger. 609 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: This is the first time, and this was yesterday for me, 610 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: that they went around and took a normal order. You 611 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: could get whatever you would ordinarily want from the Drake 612 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: menu as opposed to just having to hold up four 613 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: fingers on it. I'd meant to see if I could 614 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: order some alcohol because it seemed like alcohol might even 615 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: be back, because you haven't been able to get beer 616 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: or liquor if you fly on an airplane. You guys 617 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: know out there what I'm talking about. But it's the 618 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: most normal that an airplane flight has felt for me 619 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: in basically two years. I didn't feel like I was 620 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: on an airplane light and I was being constantly harangued 621 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: about where my mask was on my face, or about 622 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: drinking or eating anything during the course of the flight. 623 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: Cautious optimism that sanity might be starting to prevail in 624 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: the friendly skies. Your Eminem packaging might be a little different. 625 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: Play Eminem's from Mars Candy Company has updated the cartoons 626 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: to represent the various mnm's, and two of the Lady 627 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: Eminem's are getting the biggest changes. They're getting rid of 628 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: Green Eminem's go Go boots and replacing them with sneakers, 629 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: and they're also making the heels on. I believe Brown 630 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: Eminem also a Lady Eminem, as I understand it less high, 631 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: so she seems more like business casual. I suppose I'm 632 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: a big fan of high heels, so this is a 633 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: poor move. I was really all in on the Brown 634 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: Eminem and now that they've taken away the heels, it 635 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: doesn't have the same allure to meeting more just because 636 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: it boots too kind of high. I mean, come on, 637 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: go go. Boots are tough to beat. And I don't 638 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: know what this is, you know. I mean, look, it's 639 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: the It's a very minor thing. But sometimes we have 640 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: to look at the minor things to have a little 641 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: fun here with How why update this at all? First 642 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: of all, I mean, I guess it does get us 643 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: talking about it, but the way they've updated it too, 644 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I really I only want my Eminem's to 645 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: be triple vaccinated and announcing their pronouns, Clay if they 646 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: If the eminems don't announce their pronouns, and if they're 647 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: not triple vaccinated, I will not eat them. I'm a 648 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: peanut eminem guy. Are you a traditional eminem guy? If 649 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: you had to choose between the two, the brown package 650 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: versus the end, I mean, if I'm really going, if 651 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: I'm going full fat kid with my favorite Minm's, I'm 652 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: gonna do it with a peanut butter minm O the 653 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: red the red package. Yeah, straight peanut butter. By the way, 654 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: we got a funny call to close out with I 655 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: think is DJ and San Diego still they're talking about 656 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: the Biden four tests that are going out. DJ, youve 657 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: got a great analogy here. Yeah, guys, you know it's 658 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: it's as you guys discussed on Wednesday, it's much harder 659 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: to see people now where you you have you get 660 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: your government issued four tests and then you have to 661 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: take two tests before you go see someone. And it 662 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: just reminds me of when Elaine had the discontinuation of 663 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: her favorite birth control, the Sponge, and had to determine 664 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: how she determined to see people on whether they were spongeworthy. 665 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: So now we have a situation where you have to 666 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: determine which of your friends you want to see on 667 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: whether they're test worthy or mask worthy. Now it's a 668 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: fantastic analogy show. Great episode. Same will then looking forward 669 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: to hanging out with our crew. Should be great. WFSX, 670 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: Thank you guys, have great weekends. 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