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Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with he here. Coming

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Speaker 1: up on this Wednesday edition, We've got the introductory press

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Speaker 1: conference with the Giants, John Harbad, Joe Shane and things

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Speaker 1: are awkward. Speaking of awkward, apparently the NFC South is

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Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield, a few that no one knew about.

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Speaker 1: We've got more details on the firing of Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 1: What about the Big Ten versus the SEC. Apparently things

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Speaker 1: got another edition of In case you missed it. We've

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Speaker 1: got our Midweek Awards, and we've got Dean Blandino stopping by,

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Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.

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Speaker 1: take you all the way up until nine am Eastern

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Speaker 1: time six o'clock Pacific owls. And we start with a

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Speaker 1: question for you. Have you ever wiped with a dry

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Speaker 1: piece of toilet paper and wondered, is this as good

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Speaker 1: as it gets? It's not. Haven't you switched to life

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Speaker 1: changing wet extra large flushable dude wipes because wetter just

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Speaker 1: cleans better of it? Amazon and at major retailers nationwide,

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Speaker 1: dude wipes you best clean pants down, pants down? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: wipe it wet. That's what I'm saying. Man, Why does it.

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Speaker 2: Sound so much different if you reversed, it doesn't even

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Speaker 2: really sound like anything like wet wipes. You grew up

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Speaker 2: on wet wipes, Like give me a wet wipe, you know,

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Speaker 2: for the baby, you know, for you know, like barbecue,

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Speaker 2: get a wet wipe.

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Speaker 1: But when you say white wet, yeah, sounds a little different.

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Speaker 1: A little lemon scented uh wet white packets you would

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Speaker 1: get it at a restaurant.

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Speaker 3: Back in the day. Yeah, a little yeah, a little dip.

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Speaker 4: See this is how I know Jonahs doesn't use dude

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Speaker 4: wipes because they've got mint scented. They've got shade butter

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Speaker 4: as well, they've got uncented if you're into.

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Speaker 3: That, So mint for you, booty booty man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: We should come out with like with do wipe collaborations

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Speaker 2: and call call it booty mints.

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Speaker 3: So I'm saying booty make it better.

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Speaker 5: Not the direction I thought you were going there.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we should put it in quotes. We

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Speaker 2: should put it in quotes and call it booty mints.

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Speaker 3: Make it better. There you go right.

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Speaker 5: There, man, I was. I was on board until that.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, we showed like a little little content have

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Speaker 2: have Q throwing a spy row the.

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Speaker 1: Booty man thinking make sure you guys are covers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, be for rony cowboy with his be Feroni ring

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Speaker 2: around his mouth and then he starts wiping his mouth.

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Speaker 2: Joan is sitting there with his pants around his ankles

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Speaker 2: like I need a boot he mint like, and then

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Speaker 2: he catches one from Q and I'm sitting there laughing

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Speaker 2: with it with the camera recording it.

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Speaker 3: You know. So I think that'd be a great collaboration.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that just came right from the dome,

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Speaker 2: like y'all welcome my blessed y'all three four three oh four,

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Speaker 2: or if.

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Speaker 5: Bletched job man, except that John, you're blessed.

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Speaker 3: With some brilliants.

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Speaker 6: Blessed up man, You've been blessed booty mints by two

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Speaker 6: pros and a cup of Joey Cooper.

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Speaker 1: If you had a if you had a few dude wipes,

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Speaker 1: you might be able to get those air pods back

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Speaker 1: from that bone number.

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Speaker 2: And you would want to use a booty mint on

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Speaker 2: your AirPods. From what it sounded like from the story yesterday,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I just don't understand how

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Speaker 2: Q knew that that's what it meant.

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Speaker 3: Key stirring?

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Speaker 2: I never I never heard of it. I'm so. I mean,

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Speaker 2: is that a cultural thing?

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Speaker 3: It's a dublin thing.

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Speaker 2: No, I've never heard a key string. I've never heard

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Speaker 1: And what it meant, Oh my god, what do you

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Speaker 3: Ever heard of keystoring?

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Speaker 3: a cultural No, it's just a word.

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Speaker 1: Because only because the read because only white people have asked,

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Speaker 5: I was actually gonna say it was. It was more

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Speaker 5: think I heard that from But who said it?

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Speaker 3: That's what that means. Who said it?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but it was in regards to like

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Speaker 4: someone going to jail or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, okay, I like that word.

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Speaker 1: I think it's better than the way I said it.

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Speaker 3: What did you say?

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Speaker 1: You know? I said it the more like formal way,

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Speaker 1: when I was like, oh, I bet he you know?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, So what kester?

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Speaker 1: Because I guess that I guess that.

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Speaker 5: Before you the more formal way.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I like your way better. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to adopt your way because mine was to shove.

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Speaker 7: The word keister likely comes from the German word keast,

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Speaker 7: which means box or chest.

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Speaker 2: Now you lost me on box or chess, But I

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Speaker 2: guess you're you're what is it you're inside of there,

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Speaker 2: the colon part of there or whatever.

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Speaker 7: It entered English slang as a term for a burglar's

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Speaker 7: toolkit or suitcase before evolving to me in buttocks, possibly

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Speaker 7: by way of the rear trouser pocket.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it is cultural all right, because okay trousers,

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Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing evolved from the German language, right.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean I'm just saying like this.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's only white Germans, right, like they can't

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Speaker 4: have well, technically there are only white Germans.

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Speaker 2: They could just be from a different place and claimed

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Speaker 2: Germany like all of us, right, like our our people

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Speaker 2: are from different places, but we call ourselves American.

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Speaker 3: Where the World Cup will throw you off.

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Speaker 1: There you go, those rosters, it will throw you off

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Speaker 1: I was watching watching the Italian team one time and

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: I guess, but I do know this, you know from keystering.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, let's see. Let's see how you do this

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Speaker 1: to another team that, uh, that spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: time on their keister, looking up at the standings and

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Speaker 1: wondering how do we get back to first place? The

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Speaker 1: New York Giants and for brand new head coach, and

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Speaker 1: that brand new head coach is John Harbaugh. Congratulations, he

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Speaker 1: was introduced yesterday. Media was there. Everybody's really excited about

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Speaker 1: John Harbor. His arrival there with the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: Now the interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 3: That it the interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 1: So you've got John Harbaugh who's the head coach, and

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Speaker 1: Joe Shane who's the GM. And John Harbaugh will report

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Speaker 1: directly to ownership and not to and not Joe Shane.

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Speaker 1: The GM and the Giants have never done that before,

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Speaker 1: but that apparently was the sticking point and why it

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Speaker 1: took a little bit longer for the deal to get finalized,

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Speaker 1: because that's how John Harbaugh had it in Baltimore, where

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Speaker 1: he would report straight to Steve Bushatti and it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be through the GM. And so there's this weird sort

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Speaker 1: of dynamic between the two. So we've got media both

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh and Joe Shane's side of things when it

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Speaker 1: comes to this whole pecking order of who goes to

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Speaker 1: ownership and who's got the you know that whole Say,

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Speaker 1: which one do you want to hear from first?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: Do you guys want to hear John Harbaugh spin on

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Speaker 1: it or Joe Shane spin off?

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Speaker 3: Let's go Joe Shang first.

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Speaker 1: All right, So here was the Giants GM Joe Shane

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Speaker 1: talk talking about that dynamic.

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Speaker 3: I'm not worried about that.

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Speaker 5: Everywhere I've been.

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Speaker 8: I've been leaking for twenty six years, So everywhere I've been,

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Speaker 8: the head coach and general manager work together. That's the

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Speaker 8: only way it's gonna work and get on the same page,

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Speaker 8: go through the process. Again, We've done it everywhere I've been,

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Speaker 8: so I'm not worried about it. Like you said, that's

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Speaker 8: just something on a piece of paper, doesn't matter. We

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Speaker 8: need to work together and we're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Come to the you know, final conclusion, and.

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Speaker 5: It's always going to be about what's best for the

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Speaker 5: New York Giants.

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Speaker 8: So I have no problem with that, and you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to working with it.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: So that's Joe Shane, the general manager of the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Here was John Harbaugh's spin on the whole. He gets

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Speaker 1: to report to ownership and not Joe Shane.

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Speaker 9: A big change with your arrival is having the head

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Speaker 9: coach report directly to ownership.

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Speaker 1: Just curious, why was that something that was important to you?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, to me, it's really not that important

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Speaker 9: think it's kind of over you know, overblown, just a

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Speaker 9: main thing is that it works, you know, and that

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Speaker 9: we work together. That's what matters. So that's kind of

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Speaker 9: what I was used to. And it felt like a

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Speaker 9: good way to kind of start off. And I think

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Speaker 9: mister Marra was happy be about that. It seemed like

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Speaker 9: it made sense. And I'm just happy. But I don't

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Speaker 9: think it really matters. I think we're all going to

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Speaker 9: work together. And I promise you we all we all

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Speaker 9: we all report to the boss, right, and the boss

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Speaker 9: is is Ownership and John Marray is the is running

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Speaker 9: football operations here, and he's running it and and I'm

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Speaker 9: glad he is. And that's also all the families and

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Speaker 9: everybody involved. That's what this that's what this lad, that's

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Speaker 9: word starts. And we respect that, right, Joe, Right, Joe.

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced. I don't know about you, guys. I'm sold.

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Speaker 1: Not a big deal whatsoever. That that's why it took

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Speaker 1: so long to get the deal done. That's why it

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Speaker 1: was a sticking point. But no, him getting to report

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Speaker 1: to ownership not a big deal whatsoever. All Right, have

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Speaker 1: fun with that.

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Speaker 4: So if you're John Harbaugh, it's it's what you've always

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Speaker 4: been accustomed to, which is different for more than how

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Speaker 4: the Giants have done it, and and so, look, is

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Speaker 4: there a reason why he probably had it that way,

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Speaker 4: why the Baltimore Ravens did it that way. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 4: kind of got my assumptions as to why that is.

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Speaker 4: And it's usually when let's just say we're all going

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Speaker 4: into a business deal together, one of the first things

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Speaker 4: you always talk about in a business deals is what's

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Speaker 4: called an exit strategy.

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Speaker 5: And you're really talking.

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Speaker 4: About the end, whether things go good, things go bad,

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Speaker 4: You're talking about how it's gonna work out. So you

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Speaker 4: don't really allow emotions to get involved because you've already

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Speaker 4: got the strategy of what you talked about on the

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Speaker 4: No one ever is going to the owners or the

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Speaker 5: It's what you're losing.

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Speaker 5: And the structure of this is really.

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Speaker 4: And I also think if Joe Shane was probably in

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Speaker 4: Like, if you know you have an issue with it,

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Speaker 2: That's it's a terrible marriage. Their GM stank. He stinks,

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Speaker 2: But if I'm a coach and I have the type

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Speaker 2: And Harball, I'm not gonna put words in his mouth,

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Speaker 2: probably wanted a new GM. Why would I want this GM?

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Speaker 2: You stink you've not been good and you've not done

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Speaker 5: Can I ask this sure?

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Speaker 4: Can you really throw a win loss record on a GM?

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Speaker 5: Do with what you've done or what you've built or

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Speaker 2: Does the our only way I say in that case

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Speaker 2: then well I'm putting that on the GM.

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Speaker 5: They kind of did come in together.

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Speaker 3: Day Ball and Shane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well Shane hired him and fire through right, And

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, Ultimately the Giants ownership that makes those decisions in

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Speaker 5: I mean he's a part of it, but like's if

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Speaker 2: My understanding of GMS if the GM is there and

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Speaker 2: you're hiring the GM before you hired a coach. That's

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Speaker 2: my That's that's just my knowledge of it. I mean not,

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to ask though, is what makes a successful

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Speaker 4: and the success of it, because that's what you're there for. Well, right,

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Speaker 4: Well again, so that's what I'm saying, is you you

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Speaker 1: Of a little of both. I think it's the roster construct,

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Speaker 3: What that doesn't help or that doesn't help, But that's

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Speaker 4: Think that's what I think he ultimately was a control of.

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Speaker 4: It's like, okay, like maybe there was something else going

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Speaker 3: Like.

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Speaker 4: Those are things that I think you hold Joe Shane

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Speaker 5: Those are things that I think fall on his play. Like,

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Speaker 4: You know, you can always expect the general manager who's

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Speaker 4: argument that I'm making is that he was the decision maker.

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Speaker 2: The owner sat there on hard knocks on the camera

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Speaker 3: If you let this man go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, said repeat. That's what I'm telling you. The argument

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Speaker 2: And all I'm saying is is that clearly in that

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Speaker 2: And the bottom line is they haven't won. That they

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Speaker 2: Dave Ball got fired. The first thing they should have

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Speaker 2: It like I'm thinking about the whole Berry thing. It

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Speaker 2: that's why he ends up losing his job.

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Speaker 3: That's on you, Bean, but it is that's on you

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Speaker 1: It is commonplace though that a GM does get a

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Speaker 4: And think about it, like he's he's electing some really

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Speaker 5: You know, not it should have been a clean board

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, I don't know that I use

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Speaker 5: But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just I want to see what it looks like

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Speaker 5: It's not like he was like, no, nuh, I'd actually

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Speaker 3: Up they if not won. That's the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: And if I'm if, I'm harrball and I'm coming into

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Speaker 2: It's on file. I want I want it on record

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Speaker 2: that I wasn't okay with this. Shouldn't it happen? But

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Speaker 3: I answered to the owner.

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Speaker 1: who's ready for more litigation? Potentially in the world of

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Speaker 1: college football.

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Speaker 5: The national Championship just ended and now we've had lossuits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know, I silly me. I thought at

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Speaker 1: then uh now, Instead, the story was that Duke was

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Speaker 1: suing their quarterback Darien Mensa, saying that broke his contract

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Speaker 1: by trying to enter the transfer portal. And here we

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Speaker 1: go again, how's this gonna play out? Like, wasn't he

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Speaker 1: supposed to go to Miami or that was the conversations,

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Speaker 1: and now Duke's gonna like, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 4: Well, Duke believes he's signed a binding contractor a binding agreement.

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Speaker 4: And what's interesting about this is, like, what's the endgame

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Speaker 4: for Duke? So the guy doesn't want to be there

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Speaker 4: obviously if he's trying to get his name in the

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Speaker 4: portal just so he can go transfer to Miami for

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Speaker 4: a most likely more lucrative contract.

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Speaker 5: And meanwhile, like they're gonna assume him so he can't leave.

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Speaker 4: Oh, so he's just gonna be staying at Duke discrumbled,

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Speaker 4: and you know, he doesn't want to be there, Like

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Speaker 4: it's just it's a system that clearly, you know, needs

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Speaker 4: some sort of power authority and not the legal system

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Speaker 4: to you know, go. I mean, obviously this is gonna

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Speaker 4: set a press in one way or another, you know,

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Speaker 4: because every school's trying to essentially do this, so they

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Speaker 4: make the players sign agreements that are actually binding, like

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Speaker 4: you would be if you're an employee.

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Speaker 5: But that's the problem is none of.

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Speaker 4: These schools want to admit these these players are employees.

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Speaker 4: So because of that, you know, there's there's no collective

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Speaker 4: bargaining agreement in place, and there's there's nothing that's been

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Speaker 4: discussed to hammer out these sorts of scenarios. And that's

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Speaker 4: where we sit. So we've got a school who's gonna

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Speaker 4: try to unforce it. They're going to assue them, A

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Speaker 4: judge is gonna make a ruling on it. Most likely

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Speaker 4: we will rule in favor of the player based on

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Speaker 4: prior decisions, and he'll build eventually go to Miami.

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Speaker 5: So that's that's my prediction prediction.

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Speaker 4: But like LeVar happened to you, are you gonna be

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Speaker 4: happy if, like somehow he was had to stay at Duke.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not, And I think I think it's this

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Speaker 2: opens up the continued conversation of if if these schools

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Speaker 2: can't come together collectively and make it a point that

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Speaker 2: these these contracts are going to have that in there

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Speaker 2: and that everybody's going to enforce it. Those schools that

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Speaker 2: do that are not going to get the top players,

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Speaker 2: Like if it's Duke, and Duke is saying it, like

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Speaker 2: I have a lawyer looking at a representation looking at

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Speaker 2: this contract and it says that in the contract, I'm

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Speaker 2: redlining that you take it out, and if you don't

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Speaker 2: want to take it out, I'm not coming to your school.

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Speaker 2: Whether it be the portal or whether it be you

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Speaker 2: recruiting me out of high school, it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 2: you have this type of language in the contract. Which

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Speaker 2: now you would hope that this makes the families aware

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Speaker 2: of what they're signing, because I could guarantee you the

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Speaker 2: vast majority of these families probably aren't looking over the

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Speaker 2: print of these contracts that they're signing. And that's not

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Speaker 2: an indictment on the family. It's just never really been

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Speaker 2: a real reason to go through contracts. Your scholarship is

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Speaker 2: a contract. National Signing Day, you're signing a contract, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think that it's a It's a horrible thing

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Speaker 2: that families didn't get too crazy involved with understanding the

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Speaker 2: entirety of what a scholarship contract looks like. But now,

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Speaker 2: with the changing of times, it has to be addressed

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Speaker 2: and moving forward again. I feel like all this does

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Speaker 2: and and and Duke being petty, you're not a football school.

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Speaker 2: Many did a good job this year, great, great job,

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Speaker 2: but you're not a football school. So if you're telling

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Speaker 2: me you think by doing this to a player, who

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Speaker 2: do you think you are?

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Speaker 3: Coach k right, you better take a good look at yourselves.

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Speaker 5: You know, Elko did a good job when he was

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Speaker 5: there too. It's how I got the NM job.

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Speaker 4: Not a football school there may not be, but we

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Speaker 4: thought that about Indiana and look what they.

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Speaker 5: Were able to accompt.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, do it, and then we can and

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Speaker 2: we can have the discussion. That's I mean, that is

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Speaker 2: such an extreme example. But and for what is worth,

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Speaker 2: you're right, in the nil era of time.

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Speaker 1: There's the possibility that a team, a school could become

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Speaker 1: a football school. Great, imagine a judgment looking over the

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Speaker 1: complaint like, wait, dude, this basketball or football? All kiss

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Speaker 1: throw this.

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Speaker 3: Out of here, get them out of here the next

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Speaker 3: next case.

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Speaker 1: Uh, But seriously, families are going to have to take

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Speaker 1: the time to look at what their their children are signing.

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Speaker 1: If you're an older dude, and maybe it's not really

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Speaker 1: about your family, you're moving, you're adulting. Now, you have

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Speaker 1: got to make sure you're taking the proper precautions to

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Speaker 1: protect yourself because in the end, if you have signed

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Speaker 1: a contract that b you legally, like Duke is saying,

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Speaker 1: you signed it and you don't get you really unless

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Speaker 1: the deal was done in deception and not done in

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Speaker 1: good faith, and and and you can prove that that

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Speaker 1: it was done that way, then you gotta you gotta conversation.

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Speaker 1: But if you signed that contract based off of the

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Speaker 1: information they gave you, and you signed it in good faith,

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Speaker 1: and they signed it in good faith feeling as though

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Speaker 1: you know this clause is in there, this this paragraph

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Speaker 1: is in there. But with that being said, we don't

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Speaker 1: even anticipate that being a part of it because you're here,

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Speaker 1: you're happy, we paid you, you signed, we want you.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it moving. It's it's really going to have

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Speaker 1: to be a lot of conversations that happened very quickly

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Speaker 1: because this could this could run rampant. I mean it,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people going into that that portal,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, so it has been.

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Speaker 5: But Darien Mensa, I assume they're aware of all these

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Speaker 5: things because they've done it before.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: He started at Tulane, had a great year a couple

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Speaker 4: of years ago, and that's how he ended up at Duke,

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Speaker 4: and now he's being looked at again as one of

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Speaker 4: those potential top you know, quarterbacks. I love this kid's game,

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Speaker 4: by the way, I don't know that he gets enough

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Speaker 4: attention for what he is as you know, another year

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Speaker 4: in college, but then what he could be in the NFL. Like,

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Speaker 4: I really think this kid's got kind of the goods.

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Speaker 4: Now he's got a serious arm injury. I wonder, like

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Speaker 4: what language is in there about that now, or if

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Speaker 4: there is any. But then we're kind of venturing into

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Speaker 4: again contracts that you see at the NFL level where

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Speaker 4: they have offsets for prior injuries and things of that nature.

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Speaker 4: But as I've said before, like there's really no overseeing

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Speaker 4: governing body or collective bargain agreement to handle these sorts

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Speaker 4: of things. So I would imagine he most likely will

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Speaker 4: find his way into being able to go to Miami.

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Speaker 4: There really hasn't been anyone who's been able able to

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Speaker 4: block these players doing so. By the way, would you

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Speaker 4: have realized Duke over the last four years they've won

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Speaker 4: at least eight games. They've actually won nine and three

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Speaker 4: the last four. But uh, maybe they're transition there, maybe

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Speaker 4: they're next Indiana, who knows.

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Speaker 3: I don't care their they're basketball school.

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Speaker 2: And if they do what Indiana did, if they could

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Speaker 2: go to the extreme of being a team that's making

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Speaker 2: it into the College Football Playoff.

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Speaker 4: I mean they won the ACC this year. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: technically by rule like they probably should have went.

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Speaker 3: They weren't even in the playoff.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole lot of a that's that's one of

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Speaker 2: the most extreme cases of outside like and I mean

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Speaker 2: Indiana is a great that's a great example, but they're

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Speaker 2: they've not Indiana has not been relevant in basketball for

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Speaker 2: quite some time. I mean, Duke has been relevant forever

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Speaker 2: and they continue to be relevant and they will always

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Speaker 2: be relevant even post coach k And that's just that's

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Speaker 2: a Duke in Kentucky, and Kentucky plays good football. They

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Speaker 2: play good football at Kentucky, but it's not a football school.

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Speaker 3: Obnoxious basketball Kentucky basketball, insufferable.

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Speaker 5: Fan base like and I am a fan so I

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Speaker 5: put myself as part of that.

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Speaker 1: About what about those Kentucky football fans you know any

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Speaker 1: of those?

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Speaker 3: Any of those? Too many? Yeah? Too many?

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Speaker 5: When's less time? By the way, that Duke won a

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Speaker 5: national championship, LeVar do you know?

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Speaker 3: And basketball?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care, Cue, I could care lest two thousand,

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for participating, Jonas, not just saying things than

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Speaker 4: not having any cuts.

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Speaker 13: I love.

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Speaker 2: I love to be able to throw type of team

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Speaker 2: of responses that youth.

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Speaker 1: You already looking up? I saw you, I did. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking up. Actually Duke Football Americans, they've only had six

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Speaker 1: in the history of the program.

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Speaker 3: Kind of wild was a stink they've got I think

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Speaker 3: who so?

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Cash was a dB never heard in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 5: They've got one that you're like, Oh, I know who

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Speaker 5: that is.

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Speaker 1: Fred Crawford never heard of him, Clarkston Hines never heard

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Speaker 1: of them, Ernie Jackson never heard of him, Ace Parker

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Speaker 1: never heard of him. Lake and Tomlinson that's never heard

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Speaker 1: of him.

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Speaker 3: Who is he? What the lineman? Yeah, never heard of him.

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Speaker 3: Really good player twenty fourteen perfect, I was.

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Speaker 5: Like that was the most recent one.

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Speaker 4: God By the way twenty fourteen is the last time

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Speaker 4: that Duke the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen season won a

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Speaker 4: national championship in basketball.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I won the bracket challenge here at Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: That duke basketball. I heard of him. Know who they are? Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 3: Cooper fl know who he is. I know who he is.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, all right, I'm just saying it's basketball school, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Do all y'all want, y'all want to needle me. I

717
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Speaker 2: don't care do which I want? I could care less.

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Speaker 2: When they won a national title? Yes, shoot nasty or whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what it is. See that right there. That's

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Speaker 2: what it says, is didas's basketball score man?

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Speaker 3: Ideas as that I did? Do it nice?

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Speaker 5: D Yeah, they've done a good job. There were nine games,

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Speaker 5: are you know?

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Speaker 2: They've been competitive and playing football good. ACC been competitive

725
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Speaker 2: good good and the ACC represent it, you know, and

726
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: in the national title this year, so that's not you

727
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Speaker 2: can't brush it off.

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Speaker 1: Good for them. Well, if y'all weren't invited, here's a game,

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Speaker 1: here's a game day tips. Since they weren't invited, why

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Speaker 1: don't you order a pizza?

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Speaker 3: Hup?

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Speaker 1: Before the QB Shots, the First Hut, and if you're hungry,

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Speaker 1: the Big New Yorker's got those giant foldable slices and

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Speaker 1: right now it's just ten bucks, the biggest pizza for

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Speaker 3: Patty eds O. God, there it is. Yeah, I gotta,

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Speaker 3: I gotta say it is.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say it's the frame.

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Speaker 3: You don't you don't actually have to, No, I no,

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Speaker 3: I don't, But now I want to know what we're about.

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Speaker 1: An hour away from uh Country western SWEEKA. Oh god,

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Speaker 1: you don't. Don't put that in my head already.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna.

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Speaker 13: I will do my best, Brady, trust, but it is

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Speaker 13: now time for in case you missed it, time not

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Speaker 13: good bad, and the ugly that said, let's move it

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Speaker 13: on over. We got football and uh well, in case

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Speaker 13: you missed it or blank if you missed it here.

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Speaker 13: Travon Diggs was released by the Green Bay Packers after

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Speaker 13: you know he was released, you know, a month prior,

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Speaker 13: so that was a very short stay.

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Speaker 1: So what was your favorite Trevon Diggs highlight for this

779
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Speaker 1: time with the Packers? Would you guys say which one?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that one time when he turned around

781
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Speaker 2: and made sure Micah was okay when he was crutching

782
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 2: off after the game?

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Speaker 5: How many games did he even get with them? One?

784
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Speaker 3: Two?

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Speaker 1: I think two? I think they or did they sign

786
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Speaker 1: him after the regular season. He might have had a

787
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Speaker 1: couple of snaps, maybe in the in the playoff game

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Speaker 1: against the Bears, but I don't think he Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think about two if I'm not mistaken. And here's like

790
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Speaker 1: he got a deal, like the Cowboys signed him to

791
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Speaker 1: a deal and then he hurt his knee and they

792
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Speaker 1: got pissed because he rehabbed away from the facility and

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Speaker 1: that's where things went sideways, and Jerry Jones criticized him,

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Speaker 1: and then he ended up getting fined like two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars or five hundred thousand dollars something

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Speaker 1: like that, which they'd never done before because he didn't

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Speaker 1: show up for some of his bonuses to work out

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Speaker 1: of those.

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Speaker 3: Because he's homies with Micah. Oh yeah, wow, oh I

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Speaker 3: had to get some get back. Oh interesting, he's collateral

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Speaker 3: damage a d get him od at here.

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Speaker 1: Hey yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then Micah gets hurt, they bring him man, they

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Speaker 3: lose in the playoffs. It's like, why we bring you here?

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Speaker 1: Get him mad at here? Dang, that's how it happens.

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Speaker 1: You know what doesn't actually like that? That's a good theory.

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Speaker 13: Me.

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Speaker 3: If they're talking about getting the head coach out of here,

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Speaker 3: why are you carrying dead weight? He ain't put on

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Speaker 3: the uniform. Dang, damn. I've just said they probably think it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't. Now I feel That's about how I feel

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 5: What else?

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Speaker 13: All right, So we were talking about you know, college

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Speaker 13: going into twenty twenty six, maybe you know, looking ahead

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Speaker 13: to the season, favorite teams and whatnot. Well, I actually

817
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Speaker 13: have really really early Heisman Trophy odds. And why this

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Speaker 13: is a note because at the top of the list,

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Speaker 13: mister Braden's equin is C. J.

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Speaker 3: Carr, Notre dame special.

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Speaker 5: Let's go, he's a stud man.

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Speaker 4: He's a stud obviously, that's just you know, expectations, but

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Speaker 4: that's because of what he did this year. You know,

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Speaker 4: there should be high expectations for him. I said before,

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Speaker 4: I think he'll end up being the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 4: So he's his film's awesome, and he's again wish they

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Speaker 4: could have been the playoff wasn't the case, but we'll

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Speaker 4: see a long time before.

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Speaker 5: We actually played some real games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, ye yeah Jonas, Yeah, come on, come on.

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Speaker 1: What we are