WEBVTT - Ep77: Working Out the Kinks Feat a Therapist 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.559 Hey guys, I just wanted to give a four warning 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.480 to this week's episode of Horrible Decisions. It is like 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:07.920 none other that you have listened to before. We will 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:10.600 not be discussing kinks this week, nor will we be 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.880 discussing really freaky kicky ship um. In fact, as many 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:16.840 of you know, Weezy and I have been going through 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.119 quite some turmoil behind the scenes, and because we have 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.400 been so open with our listeners about every step of 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.880 our lives, we decided let's not hide back from the truth. 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:32.199 So we actually sat with a therapist and kind of 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:36.120 worked out our issues with each other. We kind of 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:40.640 preach every episode the importance of communication, and communication has 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.400 not been one of the strong points between Weezy and I, 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.479 and so during this episode you will listen to a 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.839 lot of emotions. Um, there was tears, there was yelling. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.960 This may be a difficult one to get through, but 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.040 I did want to let you know that we did 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:02.200 come out on top. Weezy and I have actually got 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:08.040 to our differences and made up and Horrible Decisions will continue, 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:15.400 So if you are ready, please buckle up and enjoy 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:23.440 this week's episode. Hey guys, um, welcome to yet another 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.640 episode of horrible decisions and as you guys know, UM, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.480 we have been going through, UM, quite some turmoil over 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.880 the last couple of weeks. We might not know, UM, 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.840 a lot of people know. I think UM. There's been 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:41.440 other podcasts that have spoken on us as a duo 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.360 in this podcast. UM. There's also been quite some ster 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.880 in the social media around between Instagram and Twitter. UM. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:52.920 We're very UM open. As you guys know, this has 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.560 been a podcast where we've opened up, UM about a 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.560 lot of intimate details with ourselves. And as you guys know, 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.640 and as you guys have pointed out, not only on 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.240 YouTube but also in the comments and in the blogs, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.080 you guys sent some tension between us. UM. So with 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.919 what's been transpiring over the last two weeks, we did 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.680 not want to keep you guys out of the loop. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.840 I do want to say before we start this episode 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.760 that we are not going anywhere. Hopefully, UM. We are 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.799 going to stand strong. I know that we have changed 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.360 a lot of people's lives with this platform and we 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.680 want to continue doing that. UM. But unfortunately, before we 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.560 get to keep doing that, UM, there are some things 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.760 that we just kind of want to work through. And 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.120 we decided since we are so open um with our 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.720 very intimate details within our life that we open it 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.560 up and let you guys in on it. Since we 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.040 have on Instagram live and our tweets and everything else, 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.079 I don't feel that way. Um. I want to let 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.480 everybody know that I don't feel like this should have 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:50.959 been something that we did. I do want to say 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.399 that I think that because me and you have talked 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.640 about doing mediation on our own, that it's not everybody's business, 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.359 but if you want to keep them in the loop. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.080 I'm only here because, like I said, you you want this, 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.120 but I really don't feel like it's any always been 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.320 as business at all. I'm appreciative that you're here, but 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.240 I feel I take therapy very serious, and to me, 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.160 this is a free therapy. And I'm more excited because 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.440 you're female, excuse me, a woman and black. But I 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.520 just think that I don't really care what anyone has 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:23.960 to say about what we have going on. I care 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:25.760 a lot about what you have to say in your feelings, 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.240 and I feel like this almost makes it a little 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.240 more of a mockery because we allow people to be 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.040 in on something that's so personal to us as far 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.160 as our business. Could it not be a mockery and 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.400 and something that's actually modeled, because from what I gather 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:45.560 and what I have had exposure to, your back and 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:51.080 forth on social media is unprofessional. It's not kind, it's 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:55.320 not thoughtful, and that's a mockery of the work that 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:59.600 you do. So this is actually something altogether different. It's 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.040 about trying to understand each other the underlying reasons why 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.200 there is so much conflict and others can learn from it. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.360 We're not going to dig too deeply. I am here 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:14.400 for literally just another fifty seven minutes. Sure, So before 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:20.640 we start, let me introduce myself. My name is Dr Pettiford, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.400 but I've been referred to as I want to call 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.080 myself some lady doctor some lady because I actually heard, 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.440 uh the podcast that you were on the other day 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.640 and you said that you would prefer for van or 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:39.080 friend rather than some lady to provide you all with mediation, 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:45.080 and so that to me says it on area right, 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.919 what would make them more qualified? I don't think that 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.599 it's necessarily about qualifications. I'm sure that you spent a 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.799 lot of time with schooling and and with other people 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.040 trying to figure out how to help us and benefit us. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.600 But as I've said, I do really appreciate therapy, and 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.839 I do feel like this is a I don't feel like. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:08.440 I mean, I even told Mandy last night, I don't 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:09.920 want anyone else to be in the room with us, 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.479 you know. I don't want to see a king behind you, 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.440 or even Christopher sitting here, even though we work with them. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.159 I feel like this is a very private thing. So 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.760 if we're going to make it a whole podcast entertaining thing, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.839 then I did want another entertainer there because to me, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.560 this is too personal. I didn't want it to be 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.800 a social media thing. I don't want Instagram lives or 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.560 the tweets, which was why I reacted the way I did, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.640 because I didn't want that. For many I would have 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.520 wanted her to answer the phone. So no, I didn't 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:40.720 want this to be I take your job very serious, 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.280 and I feel like this podcast, it's a comedy podcast. 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.560 It's not that serious, and this makes it. I don't know, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.520 egos get into it when Mike's and other people are around. Well, 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.240 can we dispel with that that concept? I think that 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.599 has a lot to do with the the conflict intention 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.920 that you two have is egos and arrogant, And do 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:07.400 you know the difference between arrogance and confidence. Arrogance is 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.400 a false sense of confidence is a mask. And that's 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.960 what I perceive is going on here because it is 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.640 all fun and games, but you two are not being 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:21.560 holy truthful with each other or your audience. However, there 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.760 are times when you want to dig at each other 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.320 and take it in a personal route, like with I 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.560 don't know who that person, I don't know whatever it 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.760 is that you mentioned the trick that was played on you, 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.839 and then you get pulled in and feelings are hurt, 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.160 and rather than one person calling the other, it gets 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:47.000 completely blown out of control, right, and then we feed 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.680 into it. You feed into it by even entertaining a 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:56.120 question on another podcast, And then I mean there's let 0:06:56.120 --> 0:07:03.920 me yes, UM obviously UM upset by it because I 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:08.239 think that what you two have is a beautiful thing. However, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:14.120 I think that your ego and your youth um are 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.760 getting in the way. So what I would like for 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.120 each of you to do is tell me in one 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.640 sentence what you believe the conflict is, and please don't 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:30.239 make it of a non sentence. Who would like to start? 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.840 That's fine, I'll start um and I'll leave it at 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.960 one sentence before I tell my story, but I will 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.520 say that the problem that I have is the lack 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.680 of respect, and I can leave it at that because 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.920 I think that's the umbrella for everything. Okay, So can 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.600 we see say is the perceived lack of respect and 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:52.120 absolute lack of respect in public and in private both 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:57.240 It's not perceived and it's been something. We talked about 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.520 it before, though that was more than one sentence. We've 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.520 got to listen to the rules here. It's fine. I've 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:07.760 got to say I think you two are billiant. I, however, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.320 am not. And I'm about twenty years older than you, 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:15.080 so my processing speed is so slow. So we're going 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.720 to follow the rules, not talk over me and and 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.480 one sentence, so please tell me, weezy, what in one 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:28.200 sentence do you think the conflict is. I'll be honest, 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.840 I'm I would rather listen to Mandy at this point, 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.679 she's telling me that I don't respect her. She's like, 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.839 it's absolute, it's a fact to me, and I don't 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.040 want to make it longer than I have to. Why 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.240 don't we just let Mandy maybe talk and then maybe 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.520 I can respond. I don't want to keep thinking about 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.199 how she feels. Because I spoke to her last night. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:47.560 I gave her call and I said, hey, like, how 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.160 did you feel about what I said about Van? Can 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.319 you tell me your feelings on that. She's like, Nope, 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.000 it was wrong, blah blah blah. I thought I was 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.120 as respectful as I could be. I don't feel like 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.200 I said anything wrong to her or anything like that. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.920 I don't hate Mandy. I don't feel like I did 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:05.000 respected her. So can you, Yes, you can. I don't 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.880 know what the conflict. I don't. I don't know where 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.320 it lies. So that's why I want to just listen. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.640 OK So just say that. Then don't put it all 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.800 on Mandy, because that's not you taking ownership or having 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:19.520 some sense of accountability. Because relationships are bi directional. Contribute 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.360 to them. And I know there was something that happened 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.040 I made her upset, But as far as the true conflict, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:25.520 what the real problem is, No, I don't. I can't 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:33.320 answer the question. Okay, how many I'm I'm breathing. I'm breathing. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.200 I promise you I'm breathing, okay, and I will remain. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.599 You just said to me. I don't know why I'm 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.000 missing the point. You need to follow my rules. You 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.600 need to follow my rules, and I gotta say this. 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:50.800 We're not doing that. All of it's from here and 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.520 here because you already have it all lined out. Okay, 0:09:55.600 --> 0:10:00.640 but okay, the seats are needed. Seats are needed because 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:04.080 what was spewed on the Vanileithen podcast in terms of 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.920 her side of this away from me, and maybe we 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:08.640 could just start. I want Mandy to feel like she 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.480 has to get whatever I saw, but also I want 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.120 to be able to say my piece too. Okay, Mandy, 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.800 you have got to have, as a teenager, say some chill. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.800 I'm chill. I'm not even doing anything to see you are. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.079 If I ask you to stop talking, then you need 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:27.880 to just pause. And I paused, and don't interrupt her. 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.200 Let her speak her piece, because let me be the 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.240 one who regulates, okay, which you are. I have not 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:39.000 interrupted her yet when I listened back, if I interrupted her, 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.199 I'll sense that my expression and face and emotions over 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.360 here are showing to you. But there was nothing that 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.720 came out of my mouth. I sat here and said 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.880 what I said about the Van show, and she interrupted 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.360 me and said, Okay, well that that's what we talked 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.880 about last night, etcetera, etcetera. If you're saying that I 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.559 can't sit here and show the receipts for the false 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.480 things that were said, then I will not show them. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.080 I will tell you this. What's happening is I'm getting 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.199 the bulk of what it is that you do with her. 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.360 You don't feel heard, so you're gonna keep talking. You're 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.040 gonna keep talking over me, and you're not going to 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.200 listen to the rules. That's not how it works here. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.400 I want you to know that I am going to 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.280 hear everything that you say, but you need to be patient. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.920 I hold you in high regard. You're not going to 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.400 be ignored or disrespected by me in any way that 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:30.520 I'm aware of. So let's go to the Van Leathan Show, 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.360 because I gotta be honest with you. It was tortures 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.800 for me to listen to that only because this podcast 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:40.840 and I have no interest whatsoever in cream pies and whatever. People. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.440 I just it was painful. No, just the one. I 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.000 only got sent the one. So I will tell you this, Um, 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.960 there was a part in the podcast, and I think 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.720 what happens with you wheezy is you're unaware of the 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.920 words that you say, and then a short period after 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:05.280 you speak, you contradict yourself. So what you said was 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.680 you had no beef with Mandy, you had her back, 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.959 all this positive stuff, and then you said, very distinctly, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.520 very very plainly, there was some other thing that Mandy 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:23.000 had said on a previous podcast. So when the thing 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:27.040 started to unfold with whomever that person was, Andrew and 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.880 I still think by that, let me finish, you said 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.840 something something to the effect of, well, she did it 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.080 to me, so I'm okay with it happening the way 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.640 that it did. Do you do you take ownership of that? 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.320 I do? Can I explain why what I need for 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.360 you to do? And yes, please explain why I need 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.240 for you to speak slowly and be thoughtful with your words. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.400 And I don't want to be her fault with my words. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:13:00.400 So I said that because so when I was saying that, 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:01.800 I was sitting there I had no beef with her. 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.439 I didn't say anything. Immediately when I saw what happened 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.360 on Twitter, how she was upset, I was like, what 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.079 the fuck right? And I was thinking I didn't say anything, 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:11.880 How could she have been as angry blah blah blah 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:16.360 blah blah. So then when I finally got to talk 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.280 to her, I called Mandy. I tried to hit her 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.440 up every day. It was constant me trying to connect 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.200 with her and talk about it. And when I finally did, 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:28.200 she said something along the lines of like, uh, you 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.640 said nothing to stop it or whatever, blah blah blah, 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.360 something like that I didn't stop it, which I should have, 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.240 which was a lot of the feedback I got from people, 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.000 even though I didn't make the joke, I should have 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:37.800 stopped it, And I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna stop 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.040 you it right now. You're you're not answering my question. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.000 Do you take ownership of the fact that you I 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:45.800 But to me, I'll tell you I didn't think it 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.880 was a contradiction because what I said, what you just said, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:50.440 I said about how I had no beef with her, 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.560 and I didn't say anything wrong. I didn't. But the 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.360 reason that I didn't speak up or felt they need 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.360 to say anything is because why would I need to 0:13:56.400 --> 0:14:00.880 come to her defense when why she says what she 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.840 wants to say. So if someone else is speaking about Mandy, 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.319 the only thing I should have defended was her way. 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.000 Other than that, I don't know if she sucked up 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.520 my Alex or not. It was a prank towards me. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.480 I still too in this moment. The only thing I 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.160 could have done was maybe stopped it sooner and say, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.439 let's not talk about this. But okay, so maybe I'm 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:24.520 not being clear. During the podcast, you said that you 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:31.240 defended Mandy right, and then you then you said something 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.680 to the effect of, well, you didn't feel like you 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.480 needed to jump in because she had said something hurtful 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.160 about you on a previous podcast. Can you say yes 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:46.080 or no? Yes, Okay. What you're doing is you're talking 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.240 around stuff, and so what I need for you to 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.400 do is to hear what I'm saying and answer my 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:56.760 question because you've got a gift for gap you do. 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.560 You have a gift, and what it's doing is it's 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.120 not a allowing you to take responsibility for the hurt 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:07.280 that you do. I would like to take responsibility for that, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.720 but I can't tell you sincerely that I really believe 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.000 she's using the word respect and I don't feel like 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.840 I was disrespectful to Mandy. And maybe that's why I 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.400 get very confused and keep talking about in it sounds 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.120 like I'm talking in circles because I really and maybe 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.520 that's because of the intent. Can you say this, Can 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:30.240 you say that when you heard this whatever podcast however 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.640 long ago that Mandy was on, you heard some content 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.200 and it hurt your feelings? Yes or no? Yeah? Did 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:42.400 you ever talk to her about that? Uh? Yeah, I 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.400 was in Japan. I talked to you. I text her. 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:49.400 She told me I was tripping. Um, yeah, I did. Okay, okay, 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:54.040 But whenever you because there's so many lies that are 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.200 being said right there, I didn't hit you up about 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.880 I didn't hit you up. I didn't hit you up. 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.400 You were upset that I sat here and said that 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.840 the reason for our podcast being successful from an early 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.320 start was because and how you said something. I've said 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.600 something because I gave it to the fact that I 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.520 was already sitting on a social media following and you 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:17.080 felt that me saying that it wasn't just Mandy. That's 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:18.920 a shitty thing to say when you had another podcast 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.560 and you're giving no credibility to the fact that people 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.120 don't okay, okay, so so mad because I didn't give 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:25.960 her credit on another poet Then you went on another 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.880 podcast and you said I was said some shit about 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.560 my feminism and how I said, you contradict yourself and 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.560 you're a hypocrite, which she just sat here and how 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.400 home this whole week And I'm hypot about how you 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.800 contradict yourself, me saying that you contradict yourself, me saying 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.720 that you're a hypocrite. Those are things that I've said 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.480 on our very own son. How can you really have 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.400 a leg to stand on about our brand when you 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.720 went online before you called me? How could you do 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.640 that and look me in the face and early say 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.680 that she's done? Mandy, let's take let's take a berest 0:16:55.760 --> 0:17:00.000 right now. So what I'm hearing is you admit, which 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.840 is really hard for you, that someone has hurt you. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.600 You had a heart right, No, no, no no, that you 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.000 were hurt by her words to me. I don't understand 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.679 your generation. Talking is not texting. You were in Japan 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.520 or someone was in Japan? Was the time that I 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.920 connected with her? Yet? Okay, So tell me this. Did 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:22.720 you ever have a sit down where you hashed it 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.480 out and resolved it? Yes or no? No, we've called 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.199 each other, that's the only we've never really said, you 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.680 talked about those things. So I tried multiple times after recording. Okay, 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.480 she's always too busy to say. We always tried to 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.040 talk before podcast, and I said, listen, wheezy, when we 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.160 talked before shows, it affects the content. I'm not talking 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.320 to you before a show. This has been at least 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.440 the last couple of times we've record. Only tell me 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.280 you were doing another show. That's the only time that 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.040 you wanted to sit with me. Okay that I do 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.640 want to say, um doctor, that what she is saying 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.600 as far as what I said on the other podcast, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.240 her being upset with me that I sat here and 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.480 gave credit to our quick success early is the fact 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.760 that I had another podcast and the fact that I 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.199 was sitting on a large social media following is me 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.960 not stroking her ego. So sorry that I people are 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:08.840 here with millions of followers in their podcast sucks. I 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.080 think it's not me and you don't think it's our dynamic. 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.879 That's what I'm saying. That's so discrediting to what I 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.840 do with you. Okay, but but listen, do you hear 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:22.359 what she said? She's finally thank you, admitting that she 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:27.160 felt discredited. And I've got to tell you, Mandy, beautiful, smart, lovely, 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:32.160 you have to be not so itchy scratchy with your words, 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.879 meaning don't take all the credit. And I didn't. The 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.200 interview was about me. They asked me about my my 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.040 podcast before, they asked me about my blog that I had, before, 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.320 they asked me about starting the podcast, how it started. 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:54.520 There was a whole conversation. I felt like, absolutely for people, Okay, okay, 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:59.359 I got it, and that to me is not Let's 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.679 just say this, Yes, take some credit for yourself, but 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.440 if you're about building a brand, and if you're about 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:10.680 being professional and maintaining a relationship, you need to soften 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.880 it and also give credit for where you are. You're 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.239 not the this. We we have five thousand listeners at 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.359 this time, we weren't where we are now. We were 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.800 where we are now because of Charlemagne andrew On brilliant idiots. 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.359 You have got to stop saying that as well. We 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.600 have got that is fine, but we have also put 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.840 in a whole lot of work as listenership. Are we 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:34.479 really not going to give that credit? No, we can 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.600 absolutely give them credit. But that's a problem that I 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.359 think that you have. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I don't 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:43.080 I don't care about them, I don't know what. Can 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:47.160 we not talk about it? I'm closing. Okay, So this 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:51.679 is what we're gonna do going forward. We're not calling names. Seriously, 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:59.240 you two have had conflicts and some dude in Orlando. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.080 You're telling me that you have not learned anything from 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:10.760 that time, from then till now. I'm sorry your feelings 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.200 are hurt, but I have no no, no, no, no. 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.040 That's not how you talk to people. You don't say 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:17.399 I'm sorry, your feelings are hurt and then a butt. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.600 I'm just having a hard time trying to express empathy 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.080 when you go on Live saying that you want to 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:24.520 fight me. You know my number, you know where I live, 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.560 you know where work? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me tell 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.880 you something of this? No, not, no, no, wheezy, what 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.280 are you talking about? Really? This is since our conflict. 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.080 This okay, okay, so Paust for a second, let let 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:37.120 us address this. First of all, you're both in your twenties. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:42.600 You both work at these whatever whatever, what great businesses 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.880 whatever you're both making. I hear about it. Six figures. 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.359 Tell me why you're acting like your street doctor, I 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.680 will sit here and please, yes, and that's fine? So 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.560 what what? What was fine? No? I'm no, I'm You 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:57.720 said please and I said fine. As then I'm going 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.199 to sit here and explain myself. There's no explanation for 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.800 threatening violence. I did not threaten violence. That is not 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:05.280 what was said. And she was not on my life 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.040 to hear that. Whether that was the message that would 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.119 let me sit here and say exactly what I said 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.840 at this point. This was after a text message that 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:16.320 I had received to her where instead of apologizing to 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.720 me because she now saw how hurt I was, I gotta. 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.080 We don't like each other anyways. Fuck you go do 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.359 your own show and their screens. You said that one moment, 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.280 one moment, one moment, one moment, you were trashed for 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.919 telling me to get my own shows. She's super trash 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:34.720 and you told me that I need to worry about 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:36.320 our brand of the first thing you did was not 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:40.280 that the phone on Twitter. Stop let me know, but 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:42.520 don't trying to sit here and tell my my side. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.680 I have not gotten to say anything about Mike. Okay, 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.000 can I can I just say this? Yes? Take it 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:50.480 down all right here? Probably, And I say that because 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:52.200